Boc Joint Planning & Zoning - Special Meeting

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Good evening and welcome to this special joint meeting of the Council of Urbanism and Zoning and the Council of Commissioners of August 17, 2026. I am Brick Simmons, President of the Council of Urbanism and Zoning. Before this meeting, announcements were published and opinions were sent to all members of the Council, commissioners, personnel, interested parties and candidates to participate in this session. I now give the floor to Dr. Ramona Jackson-Jones to present and confirm the presence of the commissioners. Madam President,

Thank you very much, President Simmons. Once again, I am Dr. Ramona Jackson-Jones, President of the Council of Commissars of the County of Douglas. And to my right is the Commissioner of District 2, Whitney Kerr-Jones, and in District 3, the Commissioner to his right, Martin Raxton. Commissioner Martin Raxton of District 3. We have the quorum tonight. President Simmons, I give you the floor.

Thank you, Madam President. Also, we have the members of the Urbanism and Zoning Council present. Please confirm your presence when I call your name. Our Vice President, Frank Payne of District 1, present. Auric Canon, he is not there. Larry Toumi, E, representative of District 3. Melissa Pauk, representative of District 4, present. E, we have the quorum. Who will make the presentation? Miss Duncan.

Very well, good evening.

Present the county staff. Okay.

Absolutely. Regarding the staff present with us tonight, we thank Thomas Mitchell of our county legal service for being among us. We have Travis McDonald, our Deputy Director of Development Services. We have Bruce Mercer and Tabitha Turner of our EUDOT. Austin Cronin, our zoning administrator. Melody Glenn is our county urban planner. Johanna Wack is the secretary of the Council for Urbanism and Zoning. And as always, Nous sommes reconnaissants envers nos adjoints du shérif et notre équipe de communication d'être présents avec nous ce soir. Merci.

Merci beaucoup. Il existe une clause de réversion qui s'applique à chaque raisonnage, à savoir que le candidat, l'agent ou le propriétaire dispose de 24 mois pour valider le changement de zonage après que le conseil des commissaires a accordé son approbation. Regarding the procedure of tonight, I, the President of the Council of Urbanism and Zoning, myself, will lead all the public audiences. The staff of Urbanism and Zoning will present each point in order of the day, followed by a presentation. Members of the public who are in favor of the points will be able to present their information. They will have two minutes per person for a total time allocated of 15 minutes to express themselves in the name of a point. The members of the public opposed to the project will also be able to present their information. They will have 2 minutes per person for a total of 15 minutes of opposition speech. Once the opposition has finished or the time has elapsed, the public audience will be officially closed. At this stage, the staff will clarify any points that the council would like to address. If the staff cannot satisfy the council, the candidates will be able to make a presentation without harming their cause. The council of urban planning and zoning will then examine a motion. who will present the first point in the order of the day, Ms. Duncan.

Very well, let's see. The first point in the order of the day, let me display it here. This is a public audience about the abandonment of the public road on Butler Drive. We are still working on this file with our colleagues from the Department of Transport of the County of Douglas. The staff therefore asks tonight to report this point to the joint audience of September 1.

Council of Urbanism and Zoning, you have heard the request. Do I have a motion?

It's Melissa Polk. I would like to propose a motion to report the first point of the order of the day.

Frank Payne, I second. I have a motion and support. Are there any discussions? Not hearing anything, I pass the vote. All those in favor of reporting the first point at the meeting on September 1st, please raise your hand. Thank you very much, Madam President. Point number 1 is submitted to you with a report recommendation at the meeting on September 1st.

Thank you very much, President Simmons, Council of Commissars. You heard the discussion. So, do we have a motion to report the public audience on the abandonment of the public road on Butler Drive on September 1st? 2026, do we have a motion?

Madam President, I propose that we report point number 1 to the joint meeting of September 1, 2026.

I second. We have a motion and support. A discussion in the Council, we have a motion and support. All those in favor of the report, please indicate it by raising your right hand. We have a vote of 3 against 0, without opposition, the motion is adopted. I give you the floor, President Simmons.

Thank you, Madam President. Mr. Austin, the following points in the order of the day, please. Yes, sir. Good evening to the Council of Urbanism and Zoning as well as to the Council of Commissars. Let's move on to the next point in the order of the day, which concerns a series of amendments to the zoning plan. The staff has identified 104 plots that meet the analysis criteria to be restored or modified for a compatible designation. The methodology is based on three criteria. The zoning date, the period of acquisition of rights and the current conditions of the property. We have therefore selected the properties by basing ourselves on a character zone. Character zones are created to examine a part of the county of Douglas and determine whether it is mainly suitable for residential, a mixture of residential and other uses, or mainly commercial. This character corresponds to a traditional quarter. The circumstances of the previous zoning actions The approval states and the current conditions of the properties have been evaluated. Non-acquired or exploited properties with an incompatible use with the current designation are proposed to be restored or modified. Mixed zoning properties or those proposed to be changed to a single compatible designation are also submitted tonight in the list included in the report of the staff available before the meeting. The Zoned PUD properties but never developed as planned at the origin are proposed to be changed to a compatible designation, distinct from the PUD, according to their current development. The properties whose zoning is incompatible with their current use are also proposed to be changed to a compatible designation. Here is the proposal for zoning cards. The last zoning card was adopted on January 6, 2026, during the last series of reversions by the staff. We have 104 properties in total, 29 in the district of Commission 1, 46 in 2, 18 in 3 and 11 in 4. The staff was contacted by 11 owners concerned about the proposed changes. I have included them here as individual slides. The first property is located at the intersection of Kings Highway and Dorset Halls. It is currently located in a heavy commercial area with conditions. The staff offers low density residential zoning. The applicable conditions specify that the property can only be used for a supermarket with a single building. The owners provided a situation plan showing a possibility of development. But this plan was discussed during the development examination committee on July 22. The plan could require derogations to be realized and the rainwater retention basin is not included. So there is still work to be done for this plot. If the council is inclined to approve the proposal of the staff for low-density residential or if they prefer to maintain heavy commercial zoning with conditions. We have also been contacted about properties along Smithville Road and Catsey Road. A handful of properties. They are currently classified as intensive commercial areas. The main use in this area is the individual residential. Some of these properties have homes, while others are vacant due to flood zones or topography. The staff offers a low density residential zoning for this area. It is near O'Hell, by Thornton Road and Memorial Highway veterans. For the properties of Smyth Hill, the concern of the staff is that only two properties have been renovated, the 39 quasi road and the 3,150 Smyth Hill road. The staff has not received any request for annexation at the moment. The annexation to the city of Vastel is not certain, and the current uses are incompatible, being individual housing in intensive commercial areas. The owners declare that there is currently a petition for an annexation to OEL for a larger project. However, the staff has not received this petition to date. The next property is located on South Water Road. This is 6704 South Water Road. It is currently classified as a general commercial zone. The staff offers a low density residential zoning. The concern of the staff is that the general commercial zoning could be too intense for the size of the property and the adjacent uses. The lots, the approximate size of similar residential areas and the taking into account of the tampon areas, the retention of rainwater, parking and construction retreats could be too intense without a group of plots. The owner declares that the property is on sale and that a declassification of the zoning could reduce its commercial viability. The next property is 6720 South Sweetwater Road. It is currently classified as an intensive commercial zone. The staff proposes a general commercial zoning. The intensive commercial zoning may be too demanding for the size of the property and the adjacent uses in this area along South Water. The current use of the property would not be made incompatible with the district of general commercial zoning. The owner declares that the property is currently on sale and that a declassification could reduce the commercial viability of the site. The next property is 3954 Riley Road. This property is currently located in low-density residential areas. It is used as a mobile home park. The staff proposes a residential district for mobile homes. Low-density residential zoning does not correspond to the current use of the land as a Luthier Estates mobile home park, and the non-conforming use of the park could limit the possibility of reconstruction or maintenance in the event of a disaster. The owner declares that he does not want to see the zoning of the property changed. The mobile home park has been operating and receiving permits for some time without any problems, and this could change the way the property is evaluated and imposed. The following property is located at the intersection of Pop Road and Slater Mill Road. It is currently classified as an intensive commercial zone. The staff proposes a low density residential zoning. Intensive commercial zoning was agreed in 1974. The property has never been acquired or developed. The verbal zoning lawsuit did not indicate any final use for the property, so it was presumed speculative. A return to residential density could be appropriated until a development is proposed with an adapted site plan. The owner claims that this demarcation and this zoning designation would reduce the value of the property. The following property is located on Britain Road. It is currently located in a light industrial and agricultural residential area, the staff proposes an agricultural residential area. The light industrial zoning was agreed on 2 acres in 1980 for the construction of a light automobile repair garage, The owner indicates that it is currently on sale and that a declassification could reduce its commercial viability. The staff recommends proceeding with the reversals and modifications of cards as proposed in the complete report available online for the 104 properties. This concludes my presentation. I will be happy to answer your questions. Okay, thank you very much. Mr. Cronin, at this stage, I open the public audience.

Yes, Mr. D. That's right. Just a clarification for the people present who wish to oppose the reversal of their zoning. I said I would explain to them the moment to express themselves during the public audience. If you oppose the reversal of the zoning of your property, you will have to express yourself when the opponents have the floor. To clarify, sorry, you are looking at me with a questioning air.

Okay, so they would express themselves now?

If you open the public audience in favor, it is not the time for them to express themselves. It is when you open the public audience in opposition.

In opposition, because they are against.

Yes, sir, that's exactly right. Sorry to have confused you, but I said that I would warn the public of the moment when they could express themselves. I just want to prepare them so that, when you call the audience in opposition, the members of the community who do not want to see their zoning changed come to express themselves.

Okay. And those who want this change, if they want to talk, it's the time. Yes, sir. And I open the public audience in favor. Thank you. That being said, I open the public audience in favor. Anyone who wants to express themselves in favor of the adoption of the zoning map is asked to move forward. 2 minutes per person for a total duration of 15 minutes. No one is manifesting, I close the public audience in favor and I open the public audience in opposition. Anyone who wishes to speak out against, please approach the podium, indicate your name and address for the report, you have two minutes. Good evening everyone, Joe Bauer, Postal Box 489. I have four clients on the list. I should be able to treat them all in two minutes. The clients are present if you wish to hear them. The first concerns Kings Highway at Dorset Shells Road. Austin pointed out that we had met the DRC a week and a half ago. We are trying to fix some details. The area is currently classified as heavy industry. Sorry, we did not hear you. I apologize. We are trying to draw your attention. Listen, the first file mentioned is the ownership of Orset Schools on Kings Highway. Our client wants to continue the Superette project, which we discussed with the staff two weeks ago. We ask you to withdraw it from the agenda and let them continue their development plan. This is number 1. Do I have to deal with them one by one or do you prefer that I cover the other three? Very well, I see a sign of head for the other three. I also represent all the owners of Sikosi Mill Road. It is at the intersection of Banket Highway and Thornton Road. We are waiting for an additional annexation request and we will resume it. I have been working there for about a year. We met the city of Hostel. This annexation petition should arrive soon. The third file concerns the ownership of Georges Thomasson. It is located outside Brewer Road. He has owned it for almost as long as I have been alive. Not quite as long. But he asks you to keep the current zoning. He bought it taking into account this zoning. He asks you to leave it as it is. Mr. Thomasson is present if you want to ask him questions about his projects. And finally, the latter has not been mentioned, but I wrote a letter on this subject. It is about Mr. and Mrs. U who are here. He owns about 5 hectares near Anowakki Road. It is currently a commercial zone, but they raise horses for their family there. If the zoning must change, they ask to switch to RAS rather than RLD. And I almost succeeded in less than two minutes. I would be delighted to answer your questions. That's all for them. That's all for today. Okay. Does Annie Wakey Road appear in this presentation? I do not include it in the concerns of the owners, it is entirely my fault. I beg your pardon, but the main thing is that the area is currently in planned urban development. It was in the complete file, but the area is currently in planned urban development. Property in the north was part of the zoning action. It was developed in looting. Property in the south, Les Hugues, has never been developed for the use of looting. It was developed only for individual houses. This is why we propose to withdraw it from the planned urban development to break this link. Okay. Yes, madam. This is actually the property of Thomasson. This is not the property of Madame Hugues. They are on the south side of Anowaki. It is a plot of 12.6 acres. Sorry. Okay. Does anyone else want to speak up against the project? Among the owners. If you want to get close to the podium, you have two minutes. Please indicate your name and address for the report. And then. My name is Ron Lee Webb. My address is 1231 Huey Road. I am here to discuss the land amount 06-44 on Huey Road. Last time, I made the mistake of not bringing any photos. I would like to come closer to give you a visual support for my two minutes, please. No.

Excuse me, sir. The property in question on Yui Road is not part of this audience. Am I right about that? Well, we received the opinion right here.

That's why we're here. Mr. West.

Sir. It is the property of my wife and me. It is the property for which you sent us the letter right here. I hope it does not consume my two minutes. This is not the case. No, no, no. May I give? Let's see what the result is here. I only made three copies. I did not know. You have to pass them on and let me address the absurdity that Mrs. Duncan presented here twice, not once. Okay. If you look at these photos and pass them on. Let's make a decision before we start your two minutes.

Okay. No, he can continue and express himself. This concerns one.

This is a property that they want.

Okay.

Okay. If you look at the first photo, you will see an electric line right here. And you will see a large ravine in the center of this electric line. To the right of it is Shire Road, 9 meters. This ravine goes down all the way down to this point, E, on 0.76 hectares. If you could see this picture number 2 closely, you would see my wife in the circle, standing in this eroded ravine that goes down like Stone Mountain. If you look at picture number 3, you will see how my walk goes down in slope. This is a minor slope. Once you enter the woods where my wife's property is located, the terrain falls like Stone Mountain. Let me prove it to you. You see this picture number 4. You see the green grass? I brought about 50 trucks of land just to cover my garden. But if you notice in the background, you see an electric pole. You see the electric pole in the background. Let's go now towards the electric pole in the back, where the electric line is. You see this vertical fall? It's two feet of unevenness per foot. We have 60 meters of ground along this electric line that falls like Stone Mountain and on which it would be impossible to build a house, whatever the circumstances. Now, let's clarify what you couldn't see on photo number 4 because of the trees and the garden that bothered. Let's get into the woods. Now, if you compare this image, you see my wife standing next to a tree. If you see the lines, it's the other side of her property, which is much higher. If it measures about 1.65 meters, it would take five times its size next to this tree to reach a single flat. This is what the erosion caused on this plot. It goes down like that on an electric line. It goes down like that on each side. And this lady came to the meeting on March 16 saying that the adjacent property to this one, which is flat and flat, was not buildable. She is here today to tell us that this plot that looks like Stone Mountain is buildable. Could you explain this to us?

Okay. You have to talk to us, don't talk to anyone else, okay?

Well, that's it, that's my problem. Property is like stone. Last thing I would say. If you decree that we can build a house there, you will lie to the next buyer. I suffer from appendicitis. I shouldn't be there. I'm waiting for an operation. But it was too important to miss that. If you place this in zone R1, the next buyer who will think he can build a house there will be fooled. It is absolutely impossible to build a single residence on the side of this ditch and this ravine, whatever the circumstances. Okay.

The water will end up taking everything. That's all for your two minutes. And the reason why we bought it. That's all for your two minutes. Okay.

Très bien, je vais les faire circuler. Oh, vous en avez un.

All right. Miss Duncan, are we ready to move on?

Yes, sir. Is that included? We can continue with the public audience in opposition. I don't know if there is anyone else who opposes it, but I apologize for interrupting you earlier, but we can continue the public audience in opposition.

Thank you. All right. Does anyone else want to take the floor in opposition? Yes. If you want to get closer to the speaker, tilt your name and your address, you have two minutes.

My name is Chloé Falls and I own Chloestone & Country at 6720 South Sweetwater Road in Lithia Springs. If some of you had the pleasure of visiting my shop, you would know how unique it is. I've been there for over 30 years and it's my gathering place. And now that I'm a little dead, I'm ready to sell. It's in the hands of a real estate agent. I really ask you not to change my zoning, because I would like to have enough money to travel for the rest of my life. And if the zoning is modified, it will change the whole area around my shop. So, please think about it, and I have people who represent me. Thank you.

Excuse me. Excuse me, madam. Madam, what address did you say, please? 6720. South Sweetwater Road. Okay, thank you. Does anyone else want to speak in opposition? You can come closer to the microphone.

Hello, my name is Aruro Garcia, I am the owner of the 6704H Sweetwater Road and I bought this property as a commercial. Donc, j'aimerais mettre en avant la propriété commerciale.

Merci, d'accord. Pourriez-vous répéter cette adresse ? Excusez-moi. D'accord, c'est bon. Je crois qu'ils sont juste l'un à côté de l'autre.

Quelqu'un d'autre souhaite-t-il prendre la parole en opposition ? With your permission, if you allow me, ladies and gentlemen, the commissioners. Name and address for the verbal trial. My name is Andy Secon. I am a real estate agent at EXP Realty. I come from Michigan, but I hope you will not hold me back because I am a fan of the Bulldogs. I love the Braves, but I am not yet ready to give up my Detroit Lions. I... I... Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I understand that the goal set by the Global Plan 2023 of the County of Douglas is to guide development investments in the non-incorporated areas of the county over the next 20 years. It seeks to manage growth while aligning land use decisions with transport, economic development, housing, parks, green spaces, environmental resources and public infrastructure. And we expect from our public officials, you all, that you are good managers of what has been entrusted to you for the good of the community. According to what I understood, in the case of Arturo, my wife, Arturo is my wife's client. She is also a real estate agent. She could not come tonight. He bought the property as commercial land. She has been on the market for a while now. And I work with several people at the moment. I just met someone. He is very interested. He has already spoken. Some of these people have already spoken to Austin, to whom I asked to make sure that their planned use was also in line with the county plan. Given the important flow of traffic on Sweetwater at this place, 6704, cars block traffic at rush hour. No house builder would risk his capital to build a speculative house on this site. Road expansion projects by 2027, it seems, are another reason why owners and buyers are turning to other more suitable properties. I think someone would have built a house there if the site was viable. Sweetwater already has many residential buildings that work like companies. It's your two minutes. E. In conclusion, I think it is a harmful decision for landowners if it is adopted as it is.

Does anyone else wish to speak out against the project? Please indicate your name and address for the verbal trial. You then have two minutes. Please, E, speak into the microphone, please.

Hello, my name is Jeannine Webb and I own the property located at 0 Huey Road. I live at 1231 Huey Road. The only reason why I bought this property, knowing that we could not build it, was to hide these two horrors that are between my main residence and my land. This is on the other side of my property. The only reason why this property was bought, knowing that we could not build on it because it was a giant ditch, is to hide these two properties that you have already condemned and judged no. This caravan was no longer there last March. Yet, the two are still there. The only reason, as I said, the only reason why this property was bought, was to hide these objects during the summer. In winter, I can't do anything about it. But it is impossible to build a house on my property. It is only used to hide these two there. Thank you.

Okay, thank you very much for your comments. Does anyone else want to express himself against the project?

Good evening.

Give your name and address for the account and speak into the microphone, Hug.

Speak into the microphone, please.

Excuse me. My name is Trina Hug. I live at 4196 Wauke Road. We have received our mail regarding a change of zoning. I would like to inform you that my husband and I moved here in 2019 from another state. I have been working in the real estate sector for about 45 years. Rather than simply believing someone who told me that I could keep my horses on this property, my husband and I called Douglas County, not once, but twice, to obtain a real confirmation that we could keep our horses there, which are only for personal use. We have no intention of exploiting any commercial equestrian activity. We are too old for that. In any case, regarding the proposed change, we agree to remove the PUD. This property was classified as PUD in 1973. This is a problem that has been going on for more than 50 years. I would prefer it to be in RAS rather than in RLD zoning. By looking at your chart on zoning requirements, I see that the intention of the RLD, I believe, is to make sure that it is for personal use. And by looking at the RAD residential zoning, The uses are very similar, but if someone wanted to go to the grocery store with a Zonagera, if he obtained this approval, he should anyway come to see you, according to your table, for a special use permit, and I doubt you would agree. Therefore, we are talking about the same thing. So, it would make me very happy if we could have the Zonagera. This would preserve the value of our property. Thank you very much.

Thank you for your comments.

Does anyone else want to express himself against the project?

Where are we with the time? 6 minutes 42, 1 minute 42, 6 minutes, 6 minutes, okay, very good.

Hello, I am Sharon Falls. I am here for my mother-in-law, Chloé, from 6720 South Sweetwater Road. Her property is currently on sale. We would simply like the zoning to remain unchanged, for its benefit in case of potential sale and, possibly, to count it thanks to increased tax revenues. We would therefore like you to examine it, that you take account of its history and its antiquity on site. Thank you.

Thank you for your comments. Next person, please. Name, address, 2 minutes, sir. Very well. Georges Thomasson, Douglaville, Georgia. I have this land on Britain Road since I started buying these old plots in E. 91. It was a friend of my father from the county of Fulton who owned this place and he passed away without a will. So I bought these little pieces to build this land. It is 8 acres in total, finally 8.7 something, and I have these three over there. I have the land on both sides and it is located in a light industrial area. George Griffin bought it at the end of the 70s. I would say 75. We moved here in 72. I was in 2nd week of 3rd when I arrived at the Fulton county. I bought these little pieces, I put them together and it has been light industrialized for as long as I remember, since my adolescence. I would simply ask that it remains in mixed zoning because I am 68 years old and have health problems. At the end of the day, I would take a better price if the zoning remains the same. That's basically what I had to say. Okay. I saw during the zoning meeting that the man with his tank cleaning company creates jobs, a small company like that creates jobs and generates more land taxes. I have been paying land taxes on it for all these years as a light industrialist. So I just ask that this remains unchanged. Okay, thank you. Thank you very much for your comments, sir. Does anyone else want to speak out against it? No one is speaking out. I close the public hearing against the Council on Urbanism and Zoning. Do you have any questions for the staff?

Yes, this is Mélissa P. I have a few questions. So, correct me if I'm wrong, of the 104 properties that we have selected, there were 11 that opposed it. Is that right? 11 of which we knew, and we encouraged them to come and express themselves during the hearing concerning their opposition. Okay. And of these 11 oppositions among the 104, are they? Forgive my ignorance, I'm just asking for clarification. Is there a way, either it's 104, or nothing at all, isn't it? Or can we say that these mentioned properties, as well as the citizens who came to give us time to talk about their goods, could not be affected by this zoning, and then we continue with the rest? How is this possible? Can you enlighten me on this? Of course! No! Absolutely! And once again, the staff has no real objection to accessing the request made by the citizens. To clarify a few points concerning the zoning of Yui Road, from the PUD to the RLD, as a PUD, they will have to ask for any modification if someone wants to develop the terrain, right? So, if they prefer to keep the PUD status rather than the RLD, we do not see any major drawbacks. The RLD is a little simpler from an administrative point of view. But we have no opinion on that. Likewise, for South Sweetwater Road, the passage from CH to CG, it is not something that preoccupies us beyond measure. For the 6704 South Sweetwater, we recommend the RLD because there is no use on this property. There is no commercial activity on this land at the moment. If they prefer to leave it in a general commercial area, this suits us perfectly. Regarding Hug's demand on Hanawaki Road, the RAD is actually less dense than the RLD. It would therefore be surrounded by a low-density residential area. You would have these 12 acres in RAD within this larger RLD area, but again, it is a less intensive zoning. The staff does not really object to the fact that we opt for a less intensive zoning than the one we recommend. Finally, for Kings Highway and Britain Road. I would perhaps recommend setting a time limit so that the staff can submit these files again in 12, 18 or 24 months, according to your wish, to give them time to move forward. I think these are the only two cases that pose some concerns to us. Once again, not for a particular reason, unless we know that sometimes, when a zoning file is leaked, citizens think that it is a residential or agricultural area, and suddenly, a commercial or industrial use appears. You know, we know that this has raised a slight dilemma in the past. and we fully respect their position because they are actively trying to advance this file. We would simply say, hey, let's set a time limit for that. Maybe 24 more months, which corresponds to our rights acquisition deadline. And finally, regarding the land of Cozy Road, I would ask Joe to specify exactly which property he is referring to. But the essential, as Austin said, is that we have not received any new annexation requests. I believe that we have had two or three annexation requests before in this area and none of them have been completed. Honestly, the change of zoning does not affect the annexation in any way, in one way or another. But at the same time, if Joe can clarify exactly which plot concerns him. The staff has no real objection to leave them under their current zoning either. So I hope this clarifies our response to some points that have been presented to you today. Yes. And regarding the fact that we grant them this extended opportunity, once again for this 12 to 18 month acquisition period. This will be the second period of acquisition of rights. Is it accurate if we proceed in this way? It is accurate. To clarify a little more, when we present you with a change of zoning today, the president indicates to the verbal trial that you have 24 months to acquire the rights. Yes, a good number of these zoning that we present to you have been in place since the 70s or 80s. I can't tell you what the policy was at the time. So, I repeat, that's why I say that if you want to leave them as they are, I think you can do it in two ways. You can simply say that you will not change them, that you will leave them in the state, and that's fine. You can say that you give them 12 months. This is a typical delay for a condition that you usually impose during a zoning to see if they can move forward on something. Or you could say that you leave it for 24 months, while asking the staff to come back to you in 24 months, which would be our current type acquisition period, as if it were a new zoning request. I think these are all equal options, unless the legal service tells me otherwise. So here is our recommendation regarding Kings Highway at Dorset Scholes, the annexations of Cozy Road and that of Britain Road which is currently classified as a light industrial zone. Okay. And if we choose to give this 24-month delay, is it possible, given that the situation drags on or remains suspended, as you said, to declare that this is the last delay? In other words, if nothing is done in the 24 months, we will move forward with the decision. The only reason why I would discourage you from doing this is that no decision of this council can bind the hands of future councils, right? So I don't think it will lead to much. If you ask us to submit the file again in 24 months, all the discussions held here tonight will once again be part of the file at this time. But when it comes to saying that this must necessarily happen, I don't think we can make it legally restrictive, because in 24 months, it will be the will of the council in place at this time that will prevail. Understood. Thank you.

Mr. President, I have a question. Let me ask one. Yes, we had nine people who intervened here, didn't we? And the other two? Well, you said eleven.

Joe speaks for several. Several plots, if I understood correctly.

Very well, that's what explains the others.

I asked Joe to specify which plot he represented in the Cozy Road area, just to make sure we could identify them. And I also believe, correct me if I'm wrong, that the Waiki road did not appear on our list of the ones you had reviewed, and the Yui road either.

Yes, so there were a few people who spoke tonight and who did not appear among the 11 owners presented. This is the property Hugue, plot 0089015228. The property of Mr. and Mrs. Webb 06 44 18 20 01. E. Apart from that, the others were well represented in the presentation. This means 13 concerns of owners. I'm just trying to understand. Okay. So, the two you were talking about, who were not on the list, received an opinion? Yes, sir. The opinions have been sent to all the properties. Okay. They are therefore here in response to the opinion they have received, either to oppose the changes, or to consent to them. Shall we examine theirs too, since they are there, if it is the will of the council, sir? Okay, okay, I just want to make sure. Yes, sir. Just to clarify. Most of them. I thought I understood, according to what Mrs. Allison said, none of this, and I don't know how many we have. 6, 9, 11. But for all the people who came tonight, it would not be a problem to leave them where they are.

So once again, to know if it is a problem or not, I think this is the subject of our discussion here. Exactly. According to our code, you have 24 months to acquire your rights. This council asked us to re-examine the former non-acquired zoning. So that's all we're doing tonight. We present you with plots that, according to our analysis, have never been acquired. But I agree with you, it's pretty crazy to give them 24 months and end up here in 24 months. Uh, well, yes and no. Let me nuance that. The only reason I would say to come back in 24 months is that you asked us to follow this process and this analysis, because we had problems with properties that had not been developed, and suddenly, the neighbors found themselves with a use that they had not anticipated. Exactly. So once again, the staff is perfectly at ease with the decision that the council will make on this subject. We present them to you because you asked us for it. If you want to maintain these plots with these classifications of commercial and industrial zoning largely surrounded by residential areas, that's fine. We have no particular concerns about this, except to repeat that a project could see the light of day. We have already had situations where this has occurred, where a field had been zoned a long time ago for a specific use. This has never been realized. We are simply warning the council that this is a zone where, in our opinion, a project could be implemented fully without ever passing in front of this council, and this would be a use that citizens may not have fully anticipated nearby, because this zoning has been going on for 20 or 30 years now. If it is the will of the council to leave things in the state for these 11 plots and to simply return to the 90 others around, we agree with that.

So, once we have finished, it would be appropriate to make a proposal that someone proposes to proceed with the adoption of the zoning plan for the 93 properties that have not been objected to.

Would that be appropriate?

Are you, without having to go into detail and list each of these rooms?

No, I think. Would you like to intervene on this subject?

I think what you will have to do is adopt the zoning plan as it is presented, with the exception of these plots. And then, you will have to list. Someone will have to compile the list, and I think you have it, because Austin sent me 11 of them today, and I consulted them. But whoever makes the proposal must propose to adopt the map, they, except for, or with the exception of, and then enumerate them by specifying that they will keep their current zoning. Okay.

I just wanted to make sure everything was fine. Okay. Other questions? Commission of Urbanism. In the absence of comments, Madam President, I leave the floor to the Council of Commissioners for the questions you may have.

Thank you very much. Madam President, members of the Council of Commissars, do we have any questions? Okay. Commissioner Braxton, you have the floor.

Very well, thank you. I think this question is addressed to Joe, concerning Kings Highway and the adjacent plots, regarding the Superette. I wanted to know if residents were informed that a Superette is planned and, if so, what was their reaction? Je me souviens de la dernière fois que nous étions ici, Monsieur le Commissaire, et non, ils n'ont pas encore été informés. La discussion a eu lieu uniquement avec le personnel. Et si une mesure de zonage doit avoir lieu, elle se fera à ce moment là. Yes, because I would like him to know. Yes, sir. You know, and then collect the comments from the public, from his neighbors, and then, tell me a little more, what will this superette contain, what will she offer, will she offer fresh products? You know. No sir, no food, no fuel pump, just a superette. Okay. I'm just looking to know what she will sell then, what will some of the articles be, I would be very happy to send you a copy of what has already been presented to the staff. Okay, I'll do it tomorrow. Okay. That would be good.

Clarification. Just to make sure that Joe and I are on the same wavelength, a grocery store does require a special use permit. And if you go ahead with this use, is it of course that they will have to ask for this permit, which would inform the community and would come back to this advice? Okay. So we will always have the opportunity to discuss this specific element as a special use of the land or special permit. Yes, sir. A nearby store in this zoning classification requires a special use permit and they understand that the staff is waiting for them to make the request. Okay. For this request, you examined this property about two or three years ago, didn't you? A proposal had been made for a service station and a nearby store at the time, and it had been rejected. We have therefore been clear, if they have to come back to you for the nearest store, this will require a special use permit. Once again, under the general commercial zoning, they could simply build a shopping center, right? They could therefore build something that allows commercial use at this angle. But for the gas station, the nearest store and some other uses, this would require this special use permit.

Okay, very well, thank you, thank you for this clarification. Very well, I think those were the main questions I had. Madam President, I give you the floor.

Okay, thank you very much, Commissioner Baxter. Commissioner Kenner-Jones, you have the floor.

My question is addressed to the legal service. If we want to accept the request for a rare modification of the young woman, should we also treat this point separately?

Yes, this one will also have to be treated separately. Alison, can you give us the plot number so that we can register it correctly in the legal process? Madame Hugue's property, located on Enovaki Road, has the plot number 0089 015 02 28. De quoi? 8, 28. 8. Oui, madame. D'accord. Donc, encore une fois, c'est 0089 015 02 28.

Et son zonage actuel est résidentiel.

Aménagement planifié où?

D'accord. Et elle veut passer à?

Excuse me.

That's right. Thank you. Thank you. Madam President. Back. Okay. Thank you very much, Commissioner Jones.

Sorry. All my apologies, Madam President, but just to clarify another point. If the Council wants to move forward with the adoption of the zoning plan, with the exception of the 13 properties we discussed, Austin is ready to read them all for the verbal trial so that we can note the addresses and the numbers of necessary plots. We already have all this, so you do not have to worry about noting them. And if the Council wishes so, we will be happy to read them for the verbal trial if you choose this voice. Thank you. Very well.

Very well. I have no more questions for you. The floor is yours, President Sim. Thank you, Madam President. Urbanism and zoning commission, you heard the discussion. Do I have a motion to adopt the updated zoning plan

This is Melissa Polk. I would like to propose a motion to proceed with the adoption of the plan as it is, with the exception of the 11 numbers of property plots that Costine will read for the verbal trial. 13. Yes, madam. The partial elements that Austin will register in the verbal trial for us. Yes.

These numbers are 0089 015 02 28, or 4196 Routanawakei. There is the ID 06 44 18 20 00 00 01. This is the 0, Route Yui. There is the ID 05 67 18 20 00 00 02. It is 3954 Routes Riley. Number of plot 03-65-18-20-07. Sorry, 007. It is 6704 Routes South Sweetwater. Plot ID 0365182. 00-008. It is 6720 Routes South Sweetwater. The next plot is 008-415203. This is the 0, route POP and route SLATTER MIL. Parcel ID 02-52-18-20-02. This is the 3090, route KEY. Parcel ID 02-52-18-20-03. This is the 3150, route SMISIL. Parcel ID 2,521,820,011. This one has no address. Parcel ID 02-5-21-8-20012. This one does not have an address. Parcel ID 02521820015. This one does not have an address. Parcel ID 02521820025. This one does not have an address. Parcel ID 0063-0250085. This is the property of Kings Highway and Schloss Road and Parcel ID 02-33-02-50-00-00-08. Which is the 0, Route Britain. I may have inadvertently included the property of Mrs. Hugues, which I did not intend to do in the motion you are presenting. I therefore withdraw the 008901502284196 and the Anahouacay route for examination in a separate motion. Okay. Motion. J'ai une motion. Ai-je un appui? Curie appui.

J'ai une motion et un appui. Y a-t-il des discussions? Oui, j'ai une discussion. Est-ce que cela inclut le chemin à Nowaki? C'est le peuple qui passe en rat plutôt qu'en RLD.

Cela ne l'inclurait pas. J'ai peut-être dit cela par inadvertance, mais je l'ai rayé du... Oui. ... procès verbal au cas où je l'aurais fait. Cela devrait être considéré comme une motion séparée si telle est la volonté.

D'accord. Donc, ce n'est pas inclus dans cette motion.

Ça ne l'est pas.

D'accord. Nous aborderons cela ensuite. D'accord. Bien. Puis-je avoir un vote ? All those who are in favor of the motion to accept these properties, with the exception of those that have been read in the verbal trial, please express your approval of the amendment to the card by raising your hand. All right. All right, Madam President.

The motion is submitted to you to approve the amendment to the card, the amendment to the zoning card, with the exception of the properties that have been read in the verbal trial.

Okay. Thank you very much, President Simmons. Commissioner, you have heard all the questions and answers. Do we have a motion to adopt the amendment to the updated zoning map, with the exception of what has been read in the verbal trial? Madam President, I propose to approve the amendments to the map, with the exception of the 13 properties that have been read in the verbal trial, and that they return in 12 months if they have not been acquired.

Okay.

Press.

We have a motion and a support. Discussions? Advice?

Yes, just a clarification. If we do not include the property in Nowaki, would it be 12 properties instead of 13?

I think it would be 12 properties, and we might be able to ask for a separate motion for the property in Nowaki. And just to clarify, you want all the properties to come back in 12 months? Yes. Yes. Very good.

That's understood. Okay, we have. And I bring a friendly amendment to move to 12 and not 13.

And I support this friendly amendment.

Okay, thank you. We have a motion and a support presented. Other discussions? We have a motion and a support. All those who are in favor, please indicate it by raising your right hand. We have a vote of 3 against 0 and the motion is adopted without opposition. And I give you the floor, President.

Thank you, Madam President. Now, we must take care of the pub.

Yes, please.

What is the address for this?

We have the plot number.

Yes, this address is 4196 Chemin à Nowakie. The plot identifier is 0089015. 02 28. Okay. Urbanism and zoning commission.

Do I have a proposal concerning the ownership of Annie Vicky Road, currently Zonée PU, to make it pass in RAS?

E, this is Melissa Polk. I would like to make a proposal to move the 008-901-50228 plot to 4196 Anowaki Road from 1 to 1 Ra. I have a proposal.

Do I have support? Support. Discussions? Commission of Urbanism. All those who are in favor of the proposal, please raise your hand. Thank you very much, Madam President. Property 08-90-15-02-28. 4196 Aniwiki Road. The proposal is submitted to you for PUD sounders in agricultural residential areas.

Thank you very much, President Simmons. Commission of Commissioners, you have heard all the questions and answers. Do we have a proposal?

Madam President, I propose to sound the plot 0089015228. can be located at 4196 Hanowaki Road from Pub à Résidentiel Agricole. Okay.

Do we have support? Support.

We have a proposal and support. Discussions? Commission? We have a proposal and support. All those in favor, please raise your right hand. We have a unanimous vote of 3 to 0 and the proposal is adopted without opposition. And I give you the floor, President.

Thank you very much, Madam President. Okay. Our next yes, sir. I just want to make sure that the account is clear on the fact that the card was present in the room tonight and that the changes identified by the commissions will be corrected on this card. It will be finalized and presented to the presidency for signature tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.

Okay, thank you. Our next point is today. Thank you everyone. Very well. So, what we have next is a series of amendments to the text. A certain number of these will be update amendments. They, and some of them are new. We will try to clarify this as we go along. They, but, they, if you have questions along the way, do not hesitate to ask them. Regarding the amendments to the text, the first one we have is Article 3, Section 307. Would you like me to wait?

One moment. Amanda, just leave time to get out of the room. Thank you.

Celui-ci. Ne le fait pas car c'est résolu.

Very well, thank you. First amendment tonight, E, article 3, section 307. It is the section of the code that regulates, E, the slope of the roof. E, so essentially the design of detached individual houses, E, we generally had a requirement of a roof slope of 4 for 12. Thus, each house had to have a minimum inclination of 4 for 12. E, from time to time, it happens that someone wants to build something a little more modern, with an almost flat roof. We therefore recommend modifying this section of the code, E, to simply specify that the requirements concerning the inclination and roof materials must be in accordance with the minimum standards of the building code. e. In this way, there is a certain flexibility to allow people to express the architecture of their choice, as long as they respect the minimum requirements in terms of materials of the UDC and the building code. e. The next point concerns article 3, section 314. e. These are small retail stores with reduced price details. This was part of a set of amendments that we had previously adopted. There was a doubt about whether the Sentinel had published the legal announcement on the same day. We therefore re-publish these, e. such as during the previous moratorium period, to ensure that there is no contestation on the publication of the legal announcement. This does not change anything in the code in relation to your previous amendment. E. Regarding article 3, section 340, it is the same as for small retail stores in detail. These are personal care homes. You will remember that we previously had a moratorium on personal care homes and you asked us to make some changes. So, once again, we are republishing this announcement because there was a concern as to whether the legal announcement had been published on the right day, in the Sentinel. Regarding article 3, section 348 , it is a new section of the Code. This is something that we present to you for the first time this evening. We have added a definition to the section on temporary events to take into account activities leading to repeated or continuous external impacts. In general, currently, this section of the Code on temporary events covers things like festivals, road races, private events such as big weddings and what can generate other external impacts. This generates, excuse me, this covers things like filming permits that will take place in the county of Douglas. But we are receiving more and more, you know, concerns from residents about activities that generate loud and repeated external noises or that can create traffic problems in the neighborhood. It is therefore simply an event defined in a more vague way. e after three repeated or continuous events having an external impact, the director may require an examination for either an administrative event permit or a special use permit, depending on the nature of the complaint. Then, Article 3, Section 352, it was the section that followed the moratorium on data centers that established certain minimum requirements for phase plans, the availability of public services and the management plans. Once again, this is not a new amendment. It is the same amendment that you saw previously and we simply clarify if the legal announcement has been published correctly on the right date before. We therefore simply want to rectify this to ensure that there is no doubt about it. Similarly, according to Article 4, it was an update made with the same announcements regarding the size requiring a special use permit. We adopted several years ago an amendment to the text stipulating that, in the industrial zone, you were allowed to build 50,000 square feet of full right, but that you needed a special use permit beyond 50,000 square feet. It is therefore simply an update for the sectors of institutional offices, general trade and heavy trade, which reflect this same norm. Similarly, according to Article 4 concerning height, for a main building without a special use permit, the maximum height is 60 feet. And if you have a special use permit, this will be what is specified in the said permit. Similarly for accessory buildings, without a special use permit, the maximum height is 40 feet. And with a special use permit, the height is defined by this permit. We have also clarified a small section of the code specifying that the limits of impermeable surfaces will depend on the basin in which they are located. Once again, these are all amendments that you have seen previously. We are just doing a little cleaning up on this subject. And finally, Article 15 concerning the definitions, which is added to correspond to all these proposed amendments. Here is another new amendment concerning Article 8, Section 807. We are simply reviewing the requirements relating to the shielding of waste storage areas. There have recently been exchanges concerning some projects on the question of knowing whether the interior of their storage area must correspond to the exterior. So we clarify this point. This is the second point I had regarding article 15. I apologize for the double use, but this concludes my report. I would be happy to answer all the questions you might have after the public hearing. Thank you.

Thank you very much, Ms. Duncan. At this stage, I declare the public audience open to this question. Anyone who wishes to express themselves in favour of these amendments and pray to approach the auditorium. Seeing no one move, I close the public audience in favour and open the public audience in opposition. Anyone who wishes to express themselves against these amendments to the Unified Development Code and pray to approach the auditorium. Once again, no one is moving. I close the public hearing. Urbanism and zoning commission. Do you have any questions for the staff regarding these amendments to the CDU?

No question. Madam President, I leave the floor to the Commission of Commissioners for any questions you may have.

Thank you very much, Mr. President. Mr. Commissioners, do we have any questions regarding these amendments to the CDU? Commissioner Braxton, you have the floor.

Very well, thank you, Alison. I just wanted to know, for temporary events, is there a parameter that defines the delay when we talk about temporary events?

Few. Do you want to know how long the event can last? The duration of the event? I will answer in two different ways, hoping that one of them will be the right one. According to our code, you can ask for up to 4 temporary event permits per year before you need a special use permit for a continuous temporary event, right? So, generally, a temporary event will have the duration provided by the permit, right? It's more about the frequency of temporary events on a property. For example, I will take the following example. If you are a commercial property and you want to organize a festival to attract customers, you can do it 4 times a year with administrative permits. But if you want to do it continuously, you must obtain a special use permit. So here is a way I interpreted your question. The second way I understood your question is, for how long is this event approved, right? And for any given event, we do not have specific limits of the type, only 2 or 3 days. And I would contrast this with the illustration that I used previously. If you are a commercial store and you want to organize a big opening or a party for your customers, it is usually an event of a single day. The authorized duration will be specified on your permit. But if you are shooting, because shooting permits also include this section. So, a shooting permit can cover a date range, right? Very often, shootings last from two days to a week on the same site. Once again, we will specify this in the approval conditions of your permit. I hope one of these two solutions answers the question you asked me.

Yes, I am thinking more about the second solution, and I believe that it is case by case, according to what the permit provides.

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Now, regarding our ordinance, we add definitions, because during the last update of article 348, we tried to provide more precision on certain types of events. What we had not added at the time, it is a category above all for situations where people, especially in the areas of the county with large plots, have temporary activities that generate external damage such as noise, odors or traffic. So, if this does not clearly fit into our existing categories, we simply add a clause predicting that in the event of a recurrent complaint concerning a property, the director is then authorized to require an administrative examination. As part of this examination, you will be submitted to the evaluation of several services such as transport, the sheriff's office, firefighters, urban planning and environmental health. We will all examine the file and determine case by case if the external damages are in accordance with our code. This is precisely this examination option that we are trying to put in place. And in certain circumstances, the director can decide that this activity must be submitted directly to the commissioners' council, if necessary.

Okay, that helps. I am thinking, for example, of seasonal events that last several months, where one can receive multiple complaints related to traffic or noise. How is it managed and managed?

Of course, seasonal events constitute a specifically defined category in our code. Okay, exactly. Thus, for activities such as Christmas tree farms, pumpkin fields or basket sales for Valentine's Day, it is a specific section of the code that already requires a preliminary examination. E. There have been cases where people wanted to resume this seasonal event and obtain permission to organize something permanent all year round. E. And in this case, we advised them to contact the commissioners for a special use permit request.

Understood. All right. Thank you very much, Madam President. I give you the floor.

Thank you very much, Commissioner Braxton. Any other comments? All right. I give you the floor, President Simmons.

Thank you, Madam President. Urbanism is nothing more than that. You have heard the discussion. Do I have a motion concerning the amendments to the UDC? This is Frank Payne. I recommend the approval of the E-articles as part of the amendment to the UDC according to Article 3. What about 4?

Sorry, I should also point out that you can adopt them all at once, according to the legal service. He said that if you simply want to adopt all the amendments together, you can certainly do it. If you prefer to examine them one by one, that suits me perfectly. But if you want to adopt them all together, it would be appropriate to make a motion to adopt them all, if that is the will of the Council.

We will recommend the approval of all of them. I have a motion. Do I have a support?

It's Mélissa P, I support.

I have a motion and a support. Do we have any additional discussions? Not hearing any, I will put to voice. All those who are in favor of the approval of the amendments to the UDC as read, please sign it by raising your hand. Thank you very much, Madam President. The motion is submitted to you to approve the amendments to the UDC as they have been read in the register.

Thank you very much, President Simmons. Council of Commissars, you have heard all the questions and answers. Do we have a motion concerning the amendments to the UDC?

Yes, Madam President. I would like to present a motion to adopt the amendments to the UDC as read and provided by the staff.

Supported. Okay, we have a motion and support. A discussion. Council, we have a motion and support. All those in favor, I follow it. Yes, indicate it by raising your right hand. We have a unanimous vote without opposition and the motion is adopted. I give you the floor.

Thank you very much, Madam President. Having nothing else to say before the Council of Urbanism and Zoning, the meeting is adjourned.

Council of Commissars, do we have a motion to adjourn the session? I propose.

Press.

We have a motion and a support. You, all those who are in favor of the adjournment of the session, please indicate it by raising your right hand. We have three votes to adjourn the session. The motion is adopted despite the opposition and the session is adjourned. Thank you very much and have a great evening. Thank you.