Community Redevelopment Agency - Regular Meeting

Thank you. Good evening, and welcome to the City of Delray Beach Community Redevelopment Agency meeting. Today Today is Wednesday, 05/13/2026. It is 05:02, and this is a special meeting. Would you call the roll? Chair Casal? Here. Vice chair Molica? Here. Deputy Vice Chair Markert.

Here.

Commissioner Burns. Here. Commissioner Carney.

Here. Thank you. And before we look to approve the agenda could we talk about public comment? I think we were talking about limiting it to two minutes just because we expected a large turnout this evening. Is that agreeable with everybody? Yes. Thank you. Okay. So Sorry, Renee.

I was just making sure everyone Raise your hand

or say

yes. We actually have to have a vote on that. Okay.

Wait. What what is it if it's not two minutes? Three? The regular three? Oh. Well, it looks like it's so crowded in here, so I guess two minutes will do it.

Alright, two minutes. Okay, we got it. Thank you. Okay.

So I'd like to motion to approve the agenda.

So moved. Second.

Thank you. Do we want to call a roll for that? Oh. Yes.

Yes. Call the roll.

Vice chair Moloka? Yes. Deputy vice chair Markert?

Yes. Commissioner Burns? Yes. Commissioner Carney?

Yes.

And chair Casal? Thank you. Yes. Okay. We are

Renee Jadacy, Executive Director, Delaware Beach CRA. So we are here today to hear a presentation and receive public comments on a proposal that the CRA receives from RH Development LLC. I'll just go through a couple slides just to set up the framework for today and then we'll have the proposer make his presentation. So here are the subject properties listed on this map. You'll see the property addresses and the properties highlighted in purple.

So this is the Southwest 600 Block Of West Atlantic Avenue with the CRA owned parcels highlighted in purple. We received the unsolicited proposal on February 10 to build a developing nationwide full service grocery store commercial space, on street parking, and green space on the parcels. The CRA staff reviewed the proposal included an item on the March 24 agenda requesting the board's consideration and direction on how voted to hold two public meetings pursuant to Florida statute two fifty five point zero six five. And now I'll have Sanaz just do a brief overview of the information from the statute and what we'll be doing here today.

Good afternoon everyone. So with respect to the meeting and the goal for what would take place at the second meeting under the statute, what the commissioners will need to consider in holding the vote at the next meeting and the criteria set forth in the statute is the benefits to the public the financial structure of and the economic efficiencies achieved by the proposal the qualifications and experience of the private entity that submitted the proposal and the entity's ability to perform the project. The project's compatibility with regional infrastructure plans and the public comments submitted at the meeting. And ultimately a statement will need to be provided at the next meeting if the commission ultimately ends up voting to proceed as to how that criteria was met and addressed. So those are just the criteria to consider for purposes of today and going forward on what the commission will need to consider.

Alright. Thank you. And just a couple more remarks. So just again, framework for today, RH Development Group will present their proposal. And I just want everyone to keep in mind that while they did submit a written proposal, this is the first time that they're making a public presentation of this proposal. So we just want to be cognizant of that, that this is their opportunity to give the board and the public a good overview of this project. And after we have that presentation, presentation, then we will open this up to public comments. So that's when we'll have the comments from the public and also from the board. We have some written comments for the proposers that we will provide in writing. If anything else comes up after we view the presentation, we'll also make suggestions on comments that we have about the presentation.

After this meeting, the proposers will work on addressing those comments for the board, and staff will also do more due diligence on the proposal. And we'll also work with the developers on a second meeting date and when that will take place. So today, will not be addressed. We won't have a back and forth conversation. This is just more of them presenting and us hearing the public comments and them hearing them as We're just here to hear the proposal and receive the comments. Any questions?

No. Thank you very much for the Alright.

So I will turn this over to our proposers.

You

Alright.

So much. You know what? I'm I'm getting very nervous sitting at this table. Can I go back to my favorite spot?

Yes. Absolutely. The defendant seat or something.

Like, I'm yeah. Exactly. Right. This way, this is normal. You guys know me like this. I'm sitting there. I feel like staff. It's not a bad thing. Always a good thing. Good evening, madam chair, honorable board members.

My name is Neil Schiller, government law group one thirty 7 Northwest 1st Avenue here in Delray Beach. I'm here tonight representing RH Development Group who was the unsolicited proposer that you got initial notice of last meeting. And we're here to present our project to bring a grocery store, a national grocery store, to this community on Atlantic Avenue. And I just may say, there was one person here the last time I made a presentation like this. And, while I don't have an ALDI colored suit, it is coming.

So stay tuned. Let me talk about the timeline. So as you know, 05/25/2025, the board reaffirmed the desire for a full service 20,000 square foot grocery store. Later that year, this board reviewed the RFP for Southwest 600 block off of West Atlantic Avenue and and gave the necessary input. Several months later after that, you received, you sought, I'm sorry, a market sounding report from Jones Lang LaSalle, obviously a leader in the field, before issuing an RFP.

Later or earlier this year in January, the board tabled that discussion of the RFP until the market sounding was complete. And as you know, on February 10, my client submitted an unsolicited offer for a 22,000 square foot national grocery store. And at your last meeting, the board voted unanimously to proceed with this process and this proposal. So for those of you that are unaware of the property that we're talking about, here is the property highlighted in yellow. Amounts to about 2.73 acres of of land on West Atlantic Avenue at the 600 block.

Land use is commercial core, and the zoning is central business district. So both the land use and the zoning would be appropriate to have a grocery store on the site. Now if I could call Randy, you can feel free to speak at the Welcome. At the staff table or you can join me when the applicants speak and talk about a little about about who you are in RH Development Group.

Good afternoon. My name is Randy Holohan. I am the managing member of RH Development Group. The picture showed me when I had a little less hair, but, you know, the company consists of two people, myself and my eldest son. We have been in business as RH Development Group, I believe, for six years.

The history behind the company is I had a business partner for thirty five years that we did nothing but grocery store development. My partner wanted to retire, and we arranged for my eldest son to become my partner at that same time. My son left the corporate development world where he was director of development for Bricksmore, which is a large retail REIT in the country, and he was their director of development. So between the two of us, we have accumulated numerous grocery store deals throughout our past. We are not a big corporation.

We don't wanna be a big corporation. We like what we are, and we are very cognizant of our abilities. We will not take on anything we can't handle because we do everything ourself. We sub out architects. We sub out engineers, but we are the hands on people all the time on every project we do.

We're very proud of what we've done. I will tell you in my career, I believe I've had two failures, which isn't bad for a developer. I would tell you that if you have a developer that says they've never had a failure, I would question whether they're really a developer or not. Those two failures were I'd like to say I they weren't my fault, but I was the developer, so, technically, I guess it's my fault. The economy got me on one, and I had a business partner that decided to run off with all the capital in the company.

But we survived, and we are here today. We're very proud of what we do. We like what we do. And as a 71 year old man, I have absolutely no interest in retirement because my wife will not let me. And so I keep working. If you have questions or comments that you'd like to ask about the company, I'm more than happy to answer them.

Thanks, Randy. Mhmm. I do wanna say and point out that Randy once sat in the seat that you're occupying as a former chairman of the Belle Isle planning and zoning board and code enforcement board and a former Belle Isle councilman. And one thing I do wanna put on the record there, RH Development Group has no conflict of interest with the CRA or any of its employees. And that's a question that's normally found in an RFP response, and I just wanna put that on the record now.

Let's talk about some of the completed plot projects that Randy and his son have done. Mostly Publixes, garage or sorry, grocery store anchors for many of these shopping centers. So there's one forty eight thousand square foot in Boynton Beach, 55,000 square foot in Oviedo. Miami's got 45,000 square foot Publix, Coral Springs, Apopka, West Orlando. These are completed projects.

You can go in those today, touch and feel them, and you can see the quality that Randy and his son and his team bring to these jobs. Further, you have Sarasota, Sunny Isles, Orlando, Riviera Beach, and even in Lake Worth Beach in their CRA. Current projects include, Avenir Town Center. As many of you know, there were some tornadoes at the end of or last fall. One of those tornadoes touched down in Avenir and took out substantial part of the shopping center.

So they're in the process, final stages of rebuilding that shopping center and getting it open. Fort Lauderdale, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Orlando, you can see the South Florida experience that this developer has. And I think it's very important to note, they do one thing and one thing only. Grocery stores, which is what you're looking for, which makes this the perfect project for RH Development Group. Now I know that you know what we've proposed in Aldi supermarket, and I wanna give you some facts about Aldi because some of these facts I've learned myself in doing some of this research.

They own almost 15,000 grocery stores across the world. They're one of the largest grocers in the world. They have 3,300 stores in The United States that include Winn Dixie, Harvey's, and Trader Joe's. They were awarded in 2018 the retailer of the year by the supermarket news and have more than 2,100 industry awards that have been awarded to Aldi since 2017. Here are some stock photos of what an Aldi's looks like on the inside if you haven't had the chance to go into a store.

There is actually a current Aldi's I think it's on West Linton Boulevard. So you can go into that store, and there are plenty of other Aldi's around South Florida. But raw Aldi's offers a lot of distinct advantages over the traditional grocery store. They have rock bottom prices, a savings of generally 36% according to regular grocery store prices. And they do that because in over or about 90% of their items are private label brands.

They operate efficiency with no frills. They even have coin return cards. I don't know how they keep using coins nowadays, but the point is they want their customers to return their cards back in order to get that that quarter back. Their starting wages are traditionally higher than minimum wage, and they are the fastest growing grocery store in The United States. So what we've proposed as an initial site plan, you can see on the site what we've what we're looking at.

So the Aldi supermarket will be located on the Northwest corner of the site. Right now, we came in at almost 22,000 square feet with additional engineering. It has been reduced to about 20,500 square feet. That backs that store backs to Atlantic Avenue, and I'll show you some further slides to show you that. To the Northeast Corner is a general civic area that we're proposing to donate back to the CRA and to the city for their programming.

And behind that is a general retail bay or or building of 4,000 square four four thousand square feet, excuse me, that will most likely look for local and national retailers to fill some of that space. You can see the parking lot associated with the Aldi's and the other retail store. We are required a 110 spaces. We are proposing a 119 spaces and five additional handicap spaces. Further south, you see our wet detention pond, which actually does provide a nice transition between the development and the residential just to the south of us.

And that detention pond is about point three acres. Here are the initial elevations and I wanna go through them if you can if you can see them. So the the east elevation, you see the entrance and some of the side yard. On the west elevation, you see sort of the loading dock on the left hand side. You see where the carts are stored in front of the store.

And then further around the other side, the south elevation is really where the action happens. That's the front of the store. You see the entrance on the on the right side and then back on the north elevation. That would be the north elevation would be the one facing Atlantic Avenue. So what would a store layout look like here?

And this is tough, so I'm gonna walk you through this. Let's start on this on the lower right hand side where it's bright yellow that says entrance. That's where customers will be going in and out of that store. The carts will be located to the right of that entrance. And as you walk into the store, you're greeted initially with fresh produce, something that this community does not have.

Fresh produce. When you walk in the store, there's a grab and go on the right hand side that includes fresh sandwiches, fresh produce, fresh fruits and vegetables. Continuing to go north, you pass more produce on the left hand side and then a pasta and bread or pastry, excuse me, pastry and bread station. You have to have wine on the left hand side with more pastry and bread. And then you get to all the way to the North Side.

That's where our fresh meats and deli will be. You see the dry goods on the aisles in between. If you go further left, you see our cooler, substantial cooler space. Then going down, you see the freezer, all of our dry goods, restrooms, our backup house, and then our checkout areas. On the left, left, left, all the way to left outside of the store is where you see the Aldi's trailer truck making a delivery and pulling out.

So there's really no interaction with the parking lot and keeps operations running smoothly throughout the day. So what are we looking at here? And and I apologize this this twenty one nine nine eight numbers is a little outdated. We're looking at 2,466 square feet of Aldi's, a national grocery store. Estimate 35 plus full time jobs to be created as part of the operation of that grocery store.

An estimated 5 point or $5,400,000 of estimated economic impact with construction jobs, which are temporary, but they're jobs, to be a 150 to 200 to build the Aldi. There is a 4,000 square foot retail space that is yet to be programmed and some 4,000 square foot maybe plus space of civic space that we intend to donate back to the CRA. Total project cost is a little over $11,000,000 that is to be borne by our our client, RH Development Group. So one of the major issues that I happen to know about because I've been in this community long enough is to know that the community wants a grocery store. And they've wanted a grocery store at least in writing since 2012 when the West Atlantic area needs assessment and community workshop summary was performed.

They had four teams of community members reviewing priorities for this area of the city, and three of the four teams ranked grocery store number one with the fourth team ranking at, I think, fourteenth or fifteenth. The general conclusions have always listed the grocery store being the number one want and need of this community. Let's fast forward to the community redevelopment plan where in Cluster 1, the West Atlantic Community Cluster, there is a dicta and language that says clearly, focus on providing basic consumer goods and services to for adjacent neighborhoods, I e small format grocery store, drug store, bank. That's what we're giving you today. Four priority needs.

Number one on the list, supermarket, grocery store. That's what we're giving you today. The set transformation plan mentions grocery store so many different times. I've highlighted the most salient points here on the slide. There still is a need for a grocery store in this community, and we're trying to provide that need for you.

Lastly, we looked at the comprehensive plan because I know how important it is to this body. And the comprehensive plan talks about grocery stores, talks about supporting small scale economic development within or adjacent to lower income neighborhoods, encouraging and pursuing employers who offer good jobs in Delray Beach, support the development of sustainable economies in commercial areas adjacent to or within lower income neighborhoods. We are hitting all the boxes. We started our outreach. We've reached out to the elders table presented before them.

We've reached out and presented before the set leadership committee. Stephanie and I are gonna get together to meet with the Delray Beach Chamber of Commerce, and we'll be happy to meet with anybody and anywhere at any time. You guys know me and know that that is what I do. I consistently meet with the community to make sure that we try to address every one single one of their wants and desires as best as we can. We may not get there, but we're gonna we're gonna try.

Let's talk about public benefits because that's one of the criteria that you have to think about at your next meeting. So first and most importantly, meeting the residents' needs for a grocery store and addressing the food desert that exists in the set today. There doesn't need to be a reliance on fast food in the set. There doesn't need to be a reliance on Uber Eats. There doesn't need to be those reliances when you have the ability to locate a grocery store in the set on 6 on the 600 Block Of West Atlantic Avenue.

Cash, money, property tax, or not property tax, but increased TIF because this is in the CRA revenue to the CRA and increased property values. And think about it this way, and you guys already know this because we're talking about this. This investment is a force multiplier. What does that mean? That means this investment begets further investments on the 700 Block, on the 800 Block, on the Northwest 800 Block, and every other property in between.

Because when they see a national tenant like ALDI going in, there's no more concern about the neighborhood. There's no more concern about the market. They see activity with ALDI. Other developers will take notice, not that they already haven't, but the real developments, the ones that are gonna transform the set will occur because of this first project. Jobs.

I already talked to you about the jobs, creating high wage, permanent jobs, at least 200 temporary construction jobs, and then action. Development stops blight. That's why we're having this conversation now anyway within the CRA. And, again, the grocer will bring positive activity to West Atlantic and show others how it can be done and how it can be done the right way with community involved meeting the community's needs. Financial structure and efficiencies.

And I realize that this slide will probably get a lot of questions about, and we'll be happy to answer those questions in writing us for your consideration at your next meeting. But the deal will be 100% privately financed by RHDG. We will likely seek some CRA grants as far as the earthwork and and the site prep because that is currently your property. The development team is small and efficient, delivering more than 50 grocery stores. All decisions are made by the person standing in front of you today, Randy Holohan, or his son, his other partner, and that's it.

There's no corporate board to slow things down. We don't have to check and triple check. He makes the decisions. We will encourage our general contractor, whomever that may be, to strongly use local labor. We will have at least one job fair as this becomes, more of a real opportunity.

And when we get through the schedule in terms of having to acquire the property and then go through the land use and the zoning and the site plan approval, then construction and building permits. We expect everything to go if everything goes well, to look at an opening in the 2029. The qualifications and experience, another issue that you need to look at at your next meeting. We've come our HDG has completed and developed over 4,200,000 square feet of retail space. They have completed and delivered more than 50 grocery stores.

I think all in South Florida. Isn't that right, Randy?

No. Central Florida.

Central And South Florida. RHDG has developed and delivered more than $1,000,000,000 in transactional value. Their experience working in a variety of environments, including urban areas just like West Atlantic Avenue. And I think this is very important. They are only interested in developing the grocery store. They're not interested in the 700 Block. They're not interested in the 800 Block. They're not interested in any other piece of property. They want to develop the grocery store. And for as long as I can remember, the 600 was the block where the grocery store was going to be located.

And this isn't Randy's first time in the city of Delray Beach either. Over ten years ago, he was the developer that tried to bring publics here for the first time. And for reasons some of us know, that wasn't successful. So he's back at it again because he believes so strongly in Delray Beach. Compatibility with infrastructure.

That's another point that you have to talk about and think about at the next meeting. So the location on Atlantic Avenue does not impede traffic goods for traffic good which is good for delivery and provides sufficient parking. We're providing a 119 spaces directly off Atlantic Avenue. Water and sewer, as you know, has capacity. Our drainage will comply with code, which is our our initial pass at the point three acres of dry or sorry, wet detention.

Solid waste authority has capacity, capacity and our transportation the transportation will comply and or exceed code. We don't want this property to be a cause for any traffic incidents or traffic congestion at all. In fact, we feel that these a 119 spaces off of Atlantic actually act off of Atlantic Avenue actually improves some of the traffic congestion that builds up in that area. So proposed schedule, which is another criteria that you need to look at. Commence negotiations with the CRA in June.

Hopefully, execute an agreement with the CRA and begin the zoning process in October. About eleven months after that, hopefully appear before you as city commissioners to approve site plan and associated applications. Building permit applications filed shortly after that. Building permits approved shortly after that, and bidding and awarding the project will occur basically next summer with construction hopefully to be completed January '29 or shortly thereafter depending on, obviously, obviously, who knows what's gonna happen in a couple of years. But that is a proposed schedule, and that's something that we're committed to.

So in conclusion, we know the community wants a national grocery store, and they want a small format grocery store. All three things we're delivering to you on the 600. It's a national grocer. It's already committed to the site. That's important.

We're not saying that we do have a letter of intent, but we're not looking to Aldi for approval. They've already approved with a letter of intent this site. We RHDG specializes in large tenant grocery stores, and they've done Publixes. And I will tell you, this is gonna be their first Aldi, but they're excited about that opportunity for reasons stated before. We're not seeking extraordinary incentives to develop this property as a grocery store to meet the community's need for the last twenty plus years.

Mhmm. Again, we fill a significant avoid in the city by ending the food desert, and that's something that I've heard since I've been here. So how many years ago? I can't even tell you, but a long time. And I think you all have heard it too. We're committed to working with the community. And, again, our estimated opening, we believe, is gonna be somewhere between January and the '29. With that being said, we have worked on a small little fly around video so you can see sort of our our thoughts. And then I'll just make one final statement. So there you see, well, West Atlantic Avenue.

Here you can see Southwest 7th on the left hand side, and you see where the tractor trailer parking is for deliveries and our our detention area. As we go around the site on the Southwest 6 oh, 7th Avenue. No. It's 6th Avenue. That was 6th Avenue.

I was right. You see how the site sort of interplays on the block. And then you'll see a lot of the improvement isn't the grocery store itself, but it's actually the surface parking, which is almost required to ensure a successful grocery store. Then you see the fly around. So the front of the store is not on Atlantic Avenue.

The front of the store is facing south. And you actually have to go into the site to engage the Aldi supermarket. So normally, I would say we're here to answer any questions, but we understand that the the statute provides the opportunity for us to hear what some of your comments and especially the public's comments and concerns are and hear your questions so that we can turn around something that answers everything that you could even possibly imagine. We wanna give you everything. We want you to go into this deal eyes wide open.

We are not trying to pull anything over your eyes. We are here in a transparent fashion and in a transparent process, a process that we feel we have an opportunity to make a great impact on this community. And we hope at the end of this process, you will let us. So thank you.

Thank you, mister Schiller. Do you have anything to add Ms. Jadison? Nothing Before to we go to public comment? Nothing Just public comment. Okay, thank you very much. Public comment is open. If you would like to speak, please approach the lecturer and give us your name. Did you want to say something?

I was just going say we should remind about the two minutes since there's more people that came in.

Correct. And are we giving we don't have to give full address on this just the zip code. Name and your zip code please and you have two minutes. Thank you very much.

Montre Bennett 33444. I'm doing this, but are y'all doing the phone phone phone public comments? Are y'all doing comments in

front of

the public on the phone?

I'm not sure, though.

We do have one phone in. Yes.

Alright. I'll leave it on.

I don't know if they call in. Wait a second. Mister Bennett, please. I don't think if they call in now, they won't be heard. Okay. Yes. We will have your message played then. Thank you.

Hi. Lucica Suarez. 33444. So we can't ask them questions even though we have That's correct. So I'm just making comments?

That's your comments are Yes. To

Our comments are to you, but y'all not developing it. It's them.

Right? Correct. But you're making public comment regarding what was presented, and you're making it to us as the individuals who we're making

the determination.

Thank you.

So I did do a little bit of research. Commission, good evening, everyone. I did a little bit of research, and you guys actually are creating in Fort Lauderdale Fort Lauderdale in Hollywood a grocery store with, like, multilevel parking. Is that correct? Right? At least that's what's on

website. Your questions?

I'm sorry. It it on their website, they have, a grocery store that's supposed to be erected for the South, and it has multilevel parking. My concern love the grocery store. Absolutely need it. But my concern is I don't know if surface parking is the highest and best use of the space that we are, you know, allowing them to develop on.

So that's my concern. I think if we look at other models that they themselves and other places, including down the street, Boynton, we could look at maybe doing a parking that's either above or below the actual structure because then it would allow us to do a lot more other things. So, yes, the grocery store is absolutely needed, but I don't know if grocery store, the only thing like parking and then it taking the whole thing is the highest highest and best use. Okay? So that's my concern. I did have questions, but since I can't pose them to them, I'll let

you guys know. Throw out your questions now.

My my first question is I wanted to know if they were flexible as far as the development. Meaning, if it's only the grocery store or are they open to, you know, partnering or doing more than just the grocery store on that particular block.

Would you do me a favor if you don't mind? Submit your questions in writing to us if if you would like, and we can try to get answers to those questions. Absolutely. You have some good questions.

Oh, I do. Yeah.

Thank you so much.

Cherry? I thought it was like

The questions need to be provided today. Okay. So maybe we allow a little bit more time for her to be able to

I'm willing to do that. We limited the time because we expected a very large turnout. Okay. So go forth with your questions.

So that

was the first question. If they are flexible and if they are developing places like Sunny Isles and in Fort Lauderdale and Hollywood, if they're able to do the multilayer parking, why not here in Delray? You know? So we can actually, you know, utilize the space for other things instead of having that whole thing be surfaced. Because I just feel like if we put other things in there, not only will it serve the community, but as a city, that's additional income for the city and the CRA as well. So I think that we need to think about yes. Include grocery store because that is absolutely needed. I just wanna make make sure we understand that, but I don't know if that Thank you. Large surface is the highest and best use. Okay.

My next question is, what specific community benefits other than the fact that we get to walk in somewhere and buy some food, like, what are the other benefits long term? Like, yeah, we we we have short term as far as the construction is concerned, but long term and what's our our ROI for the community. Like, we know what it is for them. Right? But for the community long term, what does that look like? Because I didn't see that here. All I saw was, well, the community wanted it, and we get to buy food. And just just so we I just wanna make it clear that we're not an actual food desert. I just wanna make sure.

We are.

We are? Yes. Are

we? Okay. Yeah.

Alright. Well, I didn't think so. But okay. And then the next question is the long I guess it's more so, like, what are the long term viability? Like, how is this then once the grocery store go up? We have jobs. That long lot, how is that then going to give the community and the city the money that back that we invested in this particular project? So that's my my overarching question, is this the highest and best use of this space?

Thank you so much for your questions. You're welcome.

Can I just say something, chair? Yes.

I would appreciate if you would talk Yes. Okay. To that.

Thank you. Well well, just in general, not to the not to answer the question, but just as far as the public comments. So I just wanna remind everyone, today is the day to get your comments heard. So, again, not everyone's here in the beginning, but this is the first time that this developer has made a presentation of their proposal. They had it in writing that was submitted to us, but this is their first time to show the community community or in this forum and the board what they would like to bring. And at this meeting, we also have to provide them with comments. At the next meeting is when they'll have to show how they address those comments. Okay. So really clean, clear questions that are provided to them is is will be easy as possible for them to be able to go back and address them. So while we're not having a dialogue, all of your questions are being heard.

They will be heard. Mhmm. And they they will need to address them. So just keep that in mind when we're having this dialogue. It's a dialogue in a sense, but it's a little extended. It's a dialogue now, and you get the answer later. Okay. But we appreciate the comments. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you.

My name is Chuck Ridley. Now with all I get, like, is it bad?

Just tear yourself.

Chuck Ridley, 3344

Thank you.

Great presentation, Neil and Brandy. They could give all my talking points because Brandy and I go way back. And, Neil, you've heard them all. I am one of those persons who have strongly advocated for a grocer to be here in this neighborhood. A full service national grocer.

So this excites me. This is a conversation that does excite me. In 2015 in fact, Tom, you was the person who put the land out if I remember it. Yes. In 2012, by the time we got to 2015, when you came along, Randy, some things have changed.

Most of what changed is the people who are sitting in these seats up here and including your staff. This is a very different community than the community we had to dialogue with. One of the reasons that 6th Avenue, that block was selected is because you had really nowhere else. You hadn't assembled enough property. You had very few options.

And if we would have said 600 block with some of the folk who were on, it would have been outright rejected. The trust with the staff has changed. Actually, we have a better relationship with well, we got better relationships. I ain't gonna go too far with that. Well, here's what it opens up.

A couple of questions. One to you. You have seen everything we have done except have with this body a real dialogue with this community, a developer, your staff, where we can do more than have a two minute back and forth and immediate feedback. So would you consider having a opportunity for us to really sit down and talk about what we want? The second to the developer, if there was another location, another one of those parcels that could give them everything that they would need to build the same grocery store, would they consider it?

And if they would consider it, would you work with them to navigate that process through? This is too important. You've done what you were supposed to do. You've done what we've asked you to do. We need more conversations because you all know that the 600 Block is not at this point the best location for this store, and we do have locations that would accommodate it.

Thank you, mister Ridley.

Am I am I am am not asking a question?

No. I don't I think we're okay.

I'm sorry?

Yeah. What what I I just want

Sorry. I just wanted to ask a question. When you say another location, are you suggesting, like, there's this there's a 600, 700, 800 block you you're suggesting in those locations?

Suggesting the 800 block.

Okay. Just wanted to

know what you were talking about so the the question can be answered. Thank you.

Thank you. Sorry. I just put it No. I didn't know what worked. Procedures, policies. It's okay. It's all flexible tonight. Go ahead. Thank you.

Good evening. Commit CRA board, Sarah Selznick, 33444. Over the past months, a committee of residents from the set community has been meeting with developers interested in bidding on the six, seven, and 800 blocks while also learning from highly reputable and experienced developers who are not interested in bidding but care deeply about the future of Delray Beach. Through these conversations, we have had honest discussions about feasibility, economics, traffic, design, and what is truly possible on these properties. We have also received offers from local developers and real estate professionals willing to provide free consultation simply because they wanna see the best outcome for their city in the site community.

Some of the language we have heard used to describe the current not the proposal or the proposal, I wanna be clear, but the process has been concerning. Words like embarrassing and unconscionable have come up from experienced professionals in the field, not necessarily because ALDI is a bad use, but because of the scale of the site, the value of the land, and the lack of an open process. The set community wants a grocery store. We absolutely need better food access, and this unsolicited proposal may ultimately prove to be the best option. But let's make sure that is true through a transparent RFP process that allows the community and CRA to evaluate all possibilities before making a long term commitment on such a large assemblage of prime Atlantic Avenue frontage.

Questions I have, what kind of traffic will a large grocery store in the 600 block bring into the neighborhood? How will that impact walkability? Could Aldi work on a smaller site? Is structured parking a possibility instead of using the majority of the 600 block for a single story building surrounded by surface parking? I was sent just today a rendering of all these prototype fitting nicely on the Northwest 800 Block.

Are there mixed use concepts that could deliver a mixed use concepts that could deliver a grocery store while also creating housing, economic opportunity, public space, or long term tax value? And why are we considering giving away publicly owned land that may be worth between 8 and 15,000,000 instead of exploring a lease or sale structure that allows those resources to be reinvested back into Delray Beach. What community benefits would warrant giving away the land? More importantly, residents deserve the opportunity to see all of the options. Another development team may be able to deliver more community benefit significant or the community may decide that ALDI is worth the trade off.

But we cannot make that decision unless we can compare possibilities side by side in an open and transparent process. I'll end there because I'm already overtime.

Okay. Thank you, miss Selznick. Appreciate your time. Hello. Evening. Good evening.

Jamal D Weatherspoon, 33444. Evening citizens, evening commission. So, Aldi, I cannot in good faith say anything about Aldi presenting a grocery store where I live because I've given a noteworthy amount of money to your fine institution with the ones

that you

built on multiple continents. So love love the setup. I think all these are great move in the right direction as a third generation lifelong resident of this great city. I can speak firsthand when I say that having more access to greener healthier food sources is a focal point for any functional community. So bravo.

I do have to now putting on my project management and credentialing hat, say that it does beg to question the clear intentions that the city has of demonstrating a strong desire to evolve and sort of get with the times, right, while not moving in accordance with its own processes. And so while being an absolute stickler about it, but it applies here, I would like to see an open RFQ because I know for a fact that the people sitting on this dais are committed to the best case scenario for the citizens of Delray Beach. I genuinely believe that. You don't have to sell me on it. So with that being said, looking at free market economics, well, how many other options can we get our hands on if we put the bid out?

And then we get to factor in all of the change that may have occurred since we first started engaging in in conversations with this city itself as a community and saying, we want better food options. Right? What worldview can we incorporate in those requirements? And we would never know, and I'm about to wrap this up and land my plane. We'll never know what that is until we have those conversations. So I wanna make sure that we flip over all the rocks and leave no stone unturned. Thank you.

Thank you.

My name

is Bruce Leish. I'm a landscape architect and city planner. And I I really think the comments that I was going to make are not the same comments I'm going to make after I've heard what previously was said. So these are rather significant insignificant comments, and they have to do with the design only of what of the site that I saw. I think that the, present design turns its back on Atlantic Avenue too much in that everything happens from the back of the site.

So if people if the neighborhood across the street, through people who wanna walk to the to the grocery store. They have to go around to the back of the site through what appears to be a rather narrow alley, and then enter a parking lot and then go back into the site. I think there should be an entrance from Atlantic Avenue for people who wanna there. And that could be achieved by having a essentially a hallway, the length of this of the project. You can either enter from the site front or the back.

It's fairly easy to do. I also think that the with such a large parking lot and what looks to be a relatively narrow landscaped edge, I think it doesn't really necessarily consider the parcels on either side and how they interact with the adjacent context. The so 6th Avenue and 7th Avenue seem to be really essentially access roads to get to the back of the shopping center instead of some if there was if something could be developed that faced, the adjacent properties, perhaps, like liner lie it's I don't wanna get into too much specific details, but, essentially, the the properties on the side that are gonna be commercial properties are gonna just be looking at a big parking lot. If some if it could be developed in such a way that the parking is hidden within the site with retail facing the adjacent properties that are it looks like it looks like the properties across the street on this on on 6th, I guess. I don't know if they're office or if they're retail, but they're big I the only thing I can tell by looking at the map was that they're large buildings.

So I don't know what the use of those buildings are, but whether they should be facing a big parking lot is is is a question. So based on what's been said so far tonight, I think we're pretty far from having the comments that I'm making affect this particular property. Thank you. Would like to at least have the comments in that we should not have the project turns back on Atlantic Avenue. It should be it should essentially relate to the existing context on the streets on either side and be accessible by, easily accessible by, pedestrians.

Thank you. Thank you. Hello.

Hi, everyone. How are you? Well, you can't answer me, but hi. Kristen, a generational resident, also with West Atlantic Redevelopment Coalition. I'm here tonight not to oppose the proposal. I think it was amazing, and thank you for all of the effort and work that it's taken for us to get to this point. But I do ask that we slow down just enough to get this right. The 600, 700, 800 blocks represent one of the most significant opportunities that we have had in a while, And our our community has real needs. We definitely need the grocery store. Yes.

But we also need affordable housing. We need economic opportunities for residents and businesses that have been here for a while for generations. This land has the potential to deliver all of that, and specifically, I'm talking about the 600 block, but only if we give ourselves the chance to explore it fully. The ask is simple. Include the 600 Block in the existing RFP for the seven hundred and eight hundred blocks.

Let development team submit proposals for all three parcels together or independently. Let us see what truly is possible for us before we commit to any single path. We are not here to block the progress because as multiple of multiple of us have mentioned, we we do need the grocery store, and we want the grocery store. We're we're here to make sure the progress we choose actually serves the people who live here beyond today, beyond tomorrow for generations. Our community deserves a process as strong as the outcome we're hoping for. Let us do our due diligence, and then let's choose the best option for all of us. Thank you.

Thank you.

Hello. Hello, everyone. Vera Woodson, 33445. I am here in support of a grocery store. When I invested back in 2005, I attended a few of the commission meetings under the cloak of darkness.

Mhmm. And remember the original decisions that were being made about those parcels. There was a need for a grocery store, but there was also a need for a pharmacy. And it would be incumbent upon us to look and see how we can, as the young lady stated, use the best use for that land to get to on the same site if possible. We may, in technicality, say that there is a food desert even though there are grocery stores in which you can actually access.

Because once we build and put that parking lot there, it will never change. Okay? Unless it's a fast food restaurant that comes along and wants to buy up some parking spaces and put something there like a drive through. The other thing is the gentleman spoke of making sure that there was access from the front of the building. I am for that.

However, I am also a competitive shopper. I go I shop grocery stores from Pompano all the way up here because I am very much a couponer, penny pincher. And one thing that I know about all the grocery store parking lots is they are not the cleanest. And so turning that so that the grocery store is not on the Atlantic Avenue side actually is beneficial to the aesthetic of the Atlantic Street. I would love to see greenery, a lot more flowers on that side as you're driving down the street because it does look blighted.

And, the parking lot on the backside, I think, is probably the best use of the land, but also we need to make sure that a pharmacy goes in there especially with an aging population, that will need to walk to get medications and whatnot. So please keep that in mind as you make your decision. I also inform what, miss Kristoffen said. We need to make sure that the process is transparent as well as in our processes. So thank you very much. Have a great evening.

Thank you.

Hello. Good evening. Laura Simon. I'm here on behalf of the Downtown Development Authority. And, it's great to see, Randy here. Again, I was here, I think, ten years ago when he first started this process, which ten years ago, we were a lot different. And behalf of the board and just our organization at the time when Publix was being presented at that time, we had Bob Gibbs and others look at this layout and really encourage Atlantic Avenue to have retail frontage. Continue that walkability. We want downtown runs from 95 to a one a. You really need to encourage that walkability and not create another dead zone.

So in support with, mister Leish's comments, their Atlantic Avenue needs frontage, access in from right off the street to continue that path to the next block from block to block. We already have dead zones along Atlantic Avenue from Swinton to 4th. We can't have anymore. And it's just encouraging, really, the highest and best use agree with surface parking and layered parking and seeing what we

can

do. And also, I know there are requirements for public space, but I really encourage you to look at that and how that's designed and integrated into the property as a whole versus creating another pop up pocket park that serves what purpose? You know, I think we know we wanna have social gatherings. We wanna have social spaces, but we want to create those in an intentional way that do create those social gatherings and not whether it's new behavior or just are empty. We wanna be able to have them used properly and used for the community, used for people that are just gathering, wanna eat outside, take their food, just what be intentional about it and not create another space as we see with the courthouse or other other areas that need to be filled in.

But really creating that retail frontage with multiple retail bays is also that are complementary to a grocer. Grocer is a necessity and and just really want to see it complement the entire downtown as a district that benefits the neighborhood as well. So thank you. Thank you.

Hello. Good evening. Deborah Walker, 33444. As a resident of Delray, I would like to see the RFP process go out for the 600 block to other developers and determine the best return on investment for the community. I am on the CDC board, the community development board, and we have worked with a developer that actually poured something back into the community other than jobs and helping build the build the building. So I think we're giving away too much with the current process, and I'd like to see the 600 block add it into the seven and eight hundred block RFP. Thank you.

Thank you for your comments. Hello.

Hello. Good evening. Pablo Del Real. I am with Soil and Soul. We rent office space at 34 South West 5th Avenue, Delray. And I'm inviting us to take a little bit of a wider perspective on this conversation. Appreciate the process. Can we consider the wisdom of this proposal and the process together? What do I mean by wisdom? I mean, a concept that was native to this continent, the seven generations concept.

So that refers to looking at the present moment where we are today within twenty years, looking back three generations, what happened in that place, in this place three generations, sixty, seventy five, eighty years ago, and then looking ahead three more generations. What would we like to see sixty, seventy five, eighty years from now? Are we making the best decision based on the past? And the past, as we know, is not pretty. Parts of it parts of it are beautiful.

Looking at the not pretty parts, this particular piece of land, this particular neighborhood was subject to special consideration, which was not helpful. So redlining was the reality of the set for decades. That meant capital was limited from flowing into that neighborhood by federal law. FHA loans were not made in the set, for example. Fast forward to today, we're considering taking land that is public land and converting that to private property for the benefit of a couple of corporations. Yes. There's access to groceries. Yes. That's a need. Where's the money?

Where's the wealth? It was kept out of this neighborhood for decades. It's potentially gonna be kept out for more decades in the future if we go ahead with this deal as it is, as a land giveaway rather than a different kind of structure. So please consider seven generations.

Thank you. Thank you.

Hello, everyone. Hello.

Good evening. I'm Alexias Burns, 33445. I think it's evident at this point that, some may feel as though this community doesn't understand its value, but we actually do understand its value and the value of the land that we're looking to, I'll say giveaway for the better lack of words. I think I definitely would like to see this community, prosper as well as the city. I think that there is something that can be done at this point.

If we're talking about a decision that was made ten years ago when there were a lot fewer options, options now are, more abundant. And I think that, you know, by what everyone was saying earlier that we understand that this land is probably the biggest piece of of what's left of Atlantic Avenue. And, definitely, we want and need a grocer, and I think, you know, sentiments are still the same. But we can definitely look into at least another option or other options that we may have to make the best decision. We don't want another bust like we had with the marketplace.

Right? We would definitely wanna make the right decisions going forward. And I think this group is a much different group, and it can be done. So I'm definitely for and in favor of, and I can't remember if it's RF key q or RFP, but let's RF it. Right? And let's make sure that we can go ahead on and just get some more options. You know, we're not saying no to a grocer, but we definitely are saying that we understand the value of the land. We understand that now things are different, and we have more and better options. So let's try to look at everything because I feel like when have more heads on the table, we can come out with a better product. Alright? Thank you.

Thank you. Looks like that concludes public comment, but we do have one recorded message. If we could play that, that would be great. Thank you.

323 Northwest 2nd Avenue, Shelby, Florida 33444. I'm calling to talk about the possible land where the grocery store is supposed to go. I don't believe that it's a proper use of the land for just a single store grocery store. I believe the variance of price and the output of that grocery store won't match over time. And the community should have some benefit within this process.

Also, I would like to say the 600 block does not fit the best spot for this grocery store, and that it should be moved to one of the other lots, the seven or the 800 lots. And we just want full transparency in our competitive process. And, yes, we still want the grocery store. We just don't believe it fits to be in that specific spot. Thank you.

Okay. Well, that concludes our public comment for the evening. And we are on to other business.

Well, we also have board comments too, if you have any as well as part of the public comment process.

I thought we were going to refrain from commenting this evening until the answers come back, but if you'd like us to comment, I'll go to the board.

Yes, you can give comments to them and then Okay.

Mayor, since you have a tight schedule You

go. You

No, no. You have to leave. You have five minutes.

I've told them I'm not going leave here. I've got about seven eight minutes to go.

Okay. Just go ahead. Go. Thank you.

I have the the I think we sorry. We had some very good comments. I wanted to address the one comment about landscaping. I was out over the weekend, and there's an Aldi out in Wellington, and they've really landscaped the heck out of it. And so, I mean, I think landscaping is an easy fix. That's up to us to make sure that the landscaping is going to be attractive. I do think that there unless we want parking lots in the front of buildings, then we really the entrance really does need to be facing the where the parking lot is. I just think that would make make sense. I'm intrigued by the possibility of of relocating it to the seven Or 800 Block because I happen to think of of of and I've been the record about this. I've always I've thought that those could be the better locations anyway.

I do have a issue with no consideration being paid for the land. I mean, it's a valuable piece of land. As one of the people pointed out, I was there when it was bought, and we've been sitting around for a long time. So giving it away at this time is not really I I I I I I have some concerns about that. I think that if and and I by the way, and and I'm not in favor of of doing it without giving the land away.

If you're gonna give the land away, then I I do think that I'd want a broader broader opportunity for people to look at it, see what else what other offers would be made if we're I think we're gonna have a very different landscape if we said to somebody, oh, this land is gonna where this we're giving this way. I mean, the land is gonna be free. So I think we'd get a lot of different people to say, hey. Wait. Look. If didn't we know it was gonna be free, if we knew it was gonna be free, you know, we'd have come in. So that that's my thought there. I I went as I said, I went out to Wellington to to to see that Aldi. I was very impressed with the store. The pricing is certainly which as you described.

It was I I and I will tell you, I didn't have a quarter, and the manager gave me a quarter. He said, let me give you a quarter to go do that. But that's very much what they do, and that's the old style of doing it, and and all the carts are returned. You don't see them out on on the street. So I thought I think I I think that could be a nice fit there. I think ALDI is is is not as I remembered it from ten years ago. ALDI itself has changed dramatically in in in the quality of the products that they do. So I stand corrected because I had been criticizing it for a while. Then I visited one, and I said, well, geez, you know, maybe I was wrong. And I was. So you heard it here. You heard me say I was wrong. Right? Just put the record. That's on the record.

On the record. Good. Thank you very much. So those those are my comments. I I appreciated all the other comments. You you said things that I hadn't really thought of and some that I did. So I I I appreciate all the comments and everybody coming out. And I and I wanna appreciate your effort because I think everybody's agreed. We do want a grocery store whether whether we can work within your things to to relocate it if that's what the community wants or do something else that's really gonna be half of you're gonna go home and think think about all these comments and see what you can come back with. Okay.

Thank you, mayor. Miss Malika? Sure.

I'm just gonna ask questions because I know you can't answer them now, but I know that you'll come back. So have you built an oldie? It's a question. I saw a lot of publics. Would you consider the the Northwest 800 Block, which seems to have enough configuration for that parking, although somebody mentioned stacking parking.

I've seen some really beautiful architecture of the Aldis. I think it was Naples or some store. Would you consider adjusting the style of architecture, if I could pronounce that word, I mean? Will you be retaining the asset, and for what length of time? Does your company own any of the publics that you have completed? Would you consider a land lease, a long term land lease, as opposed to the land? And I'm certainly not in favor of gifting the land either, so I would like, if if it's not gonna be a land lease, some sort of consideration. Thank you.

Okay. Thank you. Miss Burns?

Yes. I wanted to say that this is a very exciting time, long time coming for the grocery store and wanna thank, Randy and missus Schiller for your presentation. But, you know, I hear the residents and and I concur that, you know, the concern is being raised as to whether this proposal represents the highest and best use of one of the most, significant pieces of property that we own. And we I heard the the value. Just want you guys to know that the recent appraisal was 19,000,000.

It's 19 not it's not 8 to 15. It's $19,000,000. And that, you know, if this public land is being used as an incentive for development, then the public should receive the maximum possible that this community, you know, receive in return. And I am also wanting to understand and know if they'll have a consider a land lease. And then I I don't like those basic, you know, traveling around, going to our our CRA conferences.

We've seen what Publix is and all of these grocery stores can do, when they they give you their basic. That's what we saw on the screen, but we know there's a number two and number three, so I'm for that as well. But, I have some other questions that, I'll be submitting, via email. But, right now, we're really just concerned about the highest and best use for this, for this land.

I just wanna say the comments would have to be provided today. I'm sorry? The comments would need to be provided at the meeting today. Okay. Not after. I'm good. Okay. Thank you. Mister Market?

No dinner for you, Ange.

I had dinner already.

That's great. I won't I I won't reiterate some of the previous comments that were made because I I think they're all they're all absolutely fair comments. I've been pretty involved in in this process with with Renee. It does fit my background coming out of Nielsen and Office Depot. So this is an area I've got a lot of familiarity with.

I think all the questions that were raised today are all very fair, and we we we owe the public answers to those questions. So I I think our process is good. I I would wanna say, you know, we haven't we haven't really nailed down deal structure or anything like that yet, so I wouldn't get too nervous about that. There's a lot of negotiations that's gonna have to go on, and and and deal structure will be important in to to all of us. So more to come on that.

I will say, Aldi is a good fit for what we're looking for right now. We we talked to another many other grocery stores, and and some don't fit. They they don't fit what we what we're looking for. And and you may you may ask, well, why would that be? Well, we talked to one grocer that is more of a local grocer, and they have a staffing model that is sick requires 65 employees in an eight hour shift.

So we'd have to park 65 cars before we open the doors. I don't think the oldie model requires anywhere near that number of people. We'll have to find out what that number is, but we have to we have to ascertain that number so we know how many of the existing parking spaces we're gonna give up. So so like I said, from a from a from a my background point of view, ALDI Aldi right now seems to be a good fit. I do think having a grocer in West Atlantic is our linchpin.

I think if we really are serious about developing West Atlantic, if we can attract a high quality grocer, I think we've got a really, really good start on on doing what everybody wants to do in West Atlantic. And the the last thing I would say, somebody brought it up, we do need to make sure that whatever grocer we put here adheres to our look and feel standards in our downtown area. That's gonna be really important to us, and a lot of people brought that up today. I don't think that's gonna be hard, and I certainly have seen us do it at Office Depot when we came into communities, and they didn't want our big red logo. I get that.

And you you can make accommodations on that front. I just think we're gonna have to be really careful to make sure it fits in with what we all want, what we're all dreaming about for West Atlantic. But I will say, for me, is a milestone meeting today because I do, in my heart, believe having a grocer is is is the ingredient we need to really get West Atlantic moving along finely. Finally. I know it's been a long time, but I I think we're I I for me, I can see the goal line here. So I'm I'm encouraged by this. Thank you.

Thank you. And I'll I'll wrap it up to say thank you for the presentation and thank you to the staff. Mean I think I've been up here the longest right now and you've been working on this since probably day one of your employment with the CRA. And I'd like to just maybe at the next meeting you can address some of the questions. People are saying well why would the city be giving away land and I'm the first person to say the city of Delray Beach should not be giving away land.

Having said that however as I was in a discussion with Ms. Selznick, we didn't have a lot of people looking to provide a grocery store. And it became a question of do we need to incentivize it? And it's not a bad question how much incentivizing is appropriate. Have time changed?

But at the end of the day, the staff went out and did what we directed them to do, which is find a grocer and get a grocer here. And throughout this whole process whether it be the grocer or the 600, 700, 800 block it was always about incentivizing and always about a transfer. And that's not new. So it's not really surprising. People may or may not agree with it.

But it's always been a part of the discussion. And maybe the discussion has to change. But it's not new and I understand you know the concerns clearly and with the surface parking I mean that was something that was insisted upon at one time when we were looking at the last grocer because they were going to have multiple multiple level parking. And everybody said, no, we only want surface level parking. So the problem is, as the commission changes and the community changes and grows, the demands change.

And we keep on trying to move with the demands, but it feels like we're always one step behind because when we finally get what we want or what we think everyone wants, the want has changed because it's taken time. So I appreciate the collaboration and the desire to work together, on this. And I'll just speak to the RFP because, again, I've been here. The combined three blocks did not work because there were different requirements and needs of the the contract spans out a long period of time. And the grocer can't get the commitment from the developer that they need.

They can only get it from the city. But if the city is in contract on the property, it's really in flux until is over. And that has been the reason why it's taken us so long. And we've lost grocery stores. I mean, we thought we had Publix on the hook at one point twice, yes.

And then we lost them. So breaking the project out if in fact the grocery store is to be on the 67800 it's always going to have to be separate from the other part of the RFP or this will never actually happen and I think what I come away with from this conversation today is we all want to work together to get to the same place, which is to provide an amazing project on those blocks, to get our grocery store, and to make sure we're using that property as best it can be used to to not give the community back the most value. And I think that I can say from sitting up here that our staff is working on that and will work on that. And I think right now we potentially have a very good partner in all these and I look forward to the next presentation. Thank you.

We have comments to provide as well from staff. So I'll just, I won't read them.

You're going to just hand them off.

But we'll just hand these to you with some forms. So here's two copies.

That's the same copy that we have here. Well, we all have this copy to review for ourselves. And I think we are on to other business.

Vacate the staff today.

You may. Thank you very much.

Thank gentlemen.

So comments from our executive director.

Yes. Thank you.

Well, thank you for having this special meeting today. Thank you to Arch Development and Council for making the presentation. I just wanted to highlight our next upcoming board meetings. So we do have a board meeting on May 26, Two meetings actually. One is a joint meeting with the city commission and the CRA at 02:00 and at 04:00 is our regular board meeting. And then our next meeting will be July 23 at 4PM. And that's all I have. Wow. Short. Yes.

Okay. To our attorney, Za. Any comments?

Yes, ma'am. Briefly, since we are following this Florida statute for a public private partnership

Yes. Thank you.

Am I on now?

Thank you.

Following section two fifty five zero six five, which is a public private partnership, it doesn't contemplate a cone sentence. So I'm going to advise you that that no longer applies, and you can speak to the proposal directly. You can engage conversations with counsel for him or Mr. Houlihan himself. What I would ask though, that you consider any conversations with the proposal to include staff.

I think that's a great consideration.

Yeah. I

think it's important for the process, the integrity, the transparency, and schedule it through Renee's office. And you'll I think you'll find it's more beneficial.

So like a workshop through Renee's?

No, individual Just a

private one on one, just so staff's So you get a clear, concise picture.

What you can and cannot do, depending on the conversation you're having. I think that's a good idea. This interesting new rule about the cone of silence. So I think as we try to understand how that works for us, it's a good idea.

It's not addressed in the Florida statute.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Would you like to do you have anything to comment? Thank you for joining us this evening. Okay. To the board, miss Burns.

No. No.

No other comments. Thank you, mister Markert.

Thank you. No further comment.

Okay. Miss Mullica?

No comments from me. Thank you.

Okay. Well, thank you all for attending, and thank you for your input. This meeting is adjourned.

Thank you.