Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

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well good evening. My clock says six o'clock. Like to call this meeting is now starting all attend roll call. Martin here. Templan here. Lane here. Huggin here. Mock. Schultz here. Miller here. Uh, Mr. Chairman, Commissioner Medok is absent today and he did send an email about that. Thank you. Item 3A, approve planning committee commission agenda. Any changes, corrections, modifications to be made to the agenda? Motions. Make a motion. Can we approve the agenda as presented?

Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor say I. I. Opposed. Sign. Agenda has been approved. Item 3B. Approve the minutes of the planning commission meeting held on January 27, 2026. Any changes, corrections, or additions to the minutes? Motions. Motion we approve the minutes. Second. Moved and seconded. Uh all in favor say I. I. Opposed? Same sign. Minutes have been approved. Item 3 C, disclosure of conflicts of interest. Anyone have anything disclosed tonight? Oh yeah, I have to excuse myself from 7B.

Okay. Anybody else? Thank you. Item 3D, disclosure of uh outside communications regarding commission business. Anybody have anything to disclose? Okay, that takes us to item four, call to the public. Members of the public who wish to address the planning commission regarding items not on the agenda may do so at this time. Any presentation is for information purposes only. No action will be taken. There's a 4-minute time limit. Anyone would like to address the planning commission on matters not on the agenda tonight? Please approach the podium. Give us your name and address.

Nobody online. Nobody online. With that, I'll close the call the public. Brings us to item 5A. Consider reszoning 425 acres at Astro Development to M1. Brad.

All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What you have before you is a resoning application in Astra for 425 acres. As you recall a couple meetings ago, we reszoned about,00 acres and on the um east of pardon me, west of Aster Parkway, and this area is just south of that. So, this is an additional chunk of property that is being requested to be reszoned from RUR, which is the county's designated zoning to M1, which has been pretty standard. This is the third resoning request by Astra Development in this area, and it fits our land use plan, and it's consistent with all the other resonings that we've been working on in the past. really there isn't much difference from the meeting the last meeting time that we talked about this. I'm not going to blavorver you with all the the um details that we often go through with these things. I did just want to point out on the map itself you can see that M1 area that is east of pardon me west of Aster Parkway and then this tract is under consideration is the one that's just south. We did go ahead and send out notices even though it really was outside the thousand foot area. There are a few homes along Evening Star and actually a little bit farther to the west but and felt it was more of a courtesy just to let people know what was going on. Did put a sign up out there as well. As you can see, there's a lot of information in your packet. Once again, this site has been cleaned up. It's ready for development. Uh we have been working with the uh extension of sanitary sewer utilities, road improvements. All these things are in the works for this area. A lot of that is funds coming from the decoupling of the railroad which K writes out and is now committed to improving road networks within the site

itself. So with that, I mean, I'll stand for any questions you might have. If you want me to go through the details of the staff report, but I think we've kind of understood that this is going to be large chunks of developable property in the light industrial zoning district. And that's exactly what we've been talking about for five years now. And and this is where things come to fruition, this first step in the development process. With that, I'll stand for any questions you may have. So Brad is just looking through the staff report of the 12 elements of the golden criteria. You have suggested positive in favor of 11 and neutral in favor of one. Is that correct?

Yes. Okay. Any of those anybody wants to take issue with? Have you had any calls from um citizens on this breath? No, not a one. No, I take that back. I did get one that was just curious and I didn't speak initially on the phone. I called back and left a message and that was the extent of any interaction I I have had on this item. So any neighbors are within are outside of a thousand feet or they actually are? Yes. Okay,

Brad, just out of curiosity, the the packet contains 50 or so pages of documentation having to do with the deeds and the cleaning things. Are these things that we're supposed to be aware of here?

Well, I and I'm I'm just I guess maybe u I think the applicant's covering their tracks. We want to make sure there's some sort of documentation in our proceedings and legal records that these tracks are available. They have been cleaned up, the legal descriptions, all those things are accurate. So, it's just part of the what they submitted for their application. Now, I didn't print it all out for the couple commissioners that do request hard copies, but I thought it was important. It's part of their application and that's the point they were trying to make. The reason you submitted it was because that was part of the application. Yes.

Okay. I didn't know if you were asking us to opine upon whether we agree that these are clean. Not what I can do. Okay. It was just part of the application. Thank you, Brad. So, this is a public hearing item. Um, anyone who'd like to address the planning commission with respect to this resoning request at Asper Development to M1, please approach the podium. Give us your name and address. Mike, no one's online. We have a Mr. Daniel Taylor online.

Harvard. Okay. Oh, please. All right. I'm Jackson Grungart. I live at 40025 West 111 Street, Udor, Kansas, which um from the neighbors, we have a question. Is this going to be involving the Evening Star Road at all coming south? Sorry, we were having a hard time orienting oursel for this one. Oh, just cuz we had the notice on our turn, right? So, originally when I came here, I thought we were redising the crop field to the right of that or to the east.

So, that might be the next item on the agenda. So, there is a reasonzoning for that, Hayfield. Sorry. Uh, the next public hearing item is a resoning on property to the north of K10 and to the west of Evening Star Road. No, this would this would be it, I believe. So, does this play in into any effect on our road and our traffic? Evening Star, south of of K10. Yeah. South of K10.

Yeah. Um certainly nothing currently that's planned an extension or an upgrade there. When we when we're at this stage of the development, we're looking at reszoning, right? Property. Depending on what occurs down there, there may be traffic impact mitigation that needs to take place. Um, I do think I know what you're talking about because I drove down there and there is a sign out there for a reasonzoning of property that fronts Ed, right? Right. And that that's why I'm here. Right across from Yeah, that's not okay. So, that isn't this? No. Well, I don't know. I mean, maybe that sign was placed there. Is that where you place the sign? All right. So you can't this is further. I'm a little confused onation.

I didn't see that sign. Yeah, the sign is actually about here. Yeah. And so that's why when I said that you really there's no applicants or even within the thousand ft the sign. So the sign is is about over here. So it's really it's beyond. I would agree with that. Thank you for putting the sign out there because we do live in the country. So yeah, you know, 1000 ft doesn't really apply to any of us. But that that's why I'm asking cuz we got Guyer to the west who's blocking up that traffic way. So are they planning on using that traffic way as well to do anything over there if we do reszone this?

Yeah, there's no indic no immediate plans for an extension. Not to say that there won't ever be because if you take a look at the city's comprehensive land use plan, Yeah. the 10 year it does show an extension of that. Nothing on the table currently would suggest that. Okay. But it wouldn't surprise me if that's the ultimate that's because that is a plan ultimately for right that quarter to be extended. Correct. Okay. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you.

Anyone else like to address the planning commission at this public hearing? other than Mr. Taylor being online. No one else. Okay, then I'll close the public hearing of matters before the planning commission. Comments, questions, concerns? I think I would just like to see on Ames is kind of a zoomed out view kind of just exactly where this is at so I can orient myself with this. Yeah, there's a couple. one of the in the packet there's Ariel. Okay. Yeah.

So I can I can jump over to this property. So this would be roughly this area here. I'm gonna don't hold me because it's somewhere this general area. Okay. And then

so for zoomed out then evening star road is here road here. Astra Parkway uh Panason Parkway. So those trees just to the west of the resoning that's there's some buff there's some stuff there and that's where the sign is probably yeah that property that's basically to the west of the furthest west area that's probably being resone is going to be Johnson County Parks property.

Yeah. So that's part of the plan but not planned county already acquired it. They have not acquired swap that we were talking about or that they had that public meeting about. Right. Yeah. That they're working on the master plan for that whole ring around sunflower development.

Is this in the area where they were talking about? So the solar facility essentially would be 135th Street south of I'm sorry exactly the cross street there call maybe it's 119. Yeah I think it's 119th so it essentially be south of here.

So the solar proposed solar would be south. Yeah.

Has there been any progress made on a street connection from the east?

So we have uh conducted multi-jurisdictional study about the east west connections through what you through the inter astro enterprise park uh coordination with mostly the city of LAA and then also Douglas County. On the other side, we have identified a couple of corridors through there. 135th is one of them. Um, and our future land use map that we've Let me just pull it up. So we have shown those connecting corridors. So one's College Boulevard 111th Street, the other is 127 and then the last one's 135th. with 127th. What What does it tie into or is that I mean right now that's a dead street.

Yeah, it would be I'm not sure what it is in Douglas County, but yeah, that's the alignment. I mean, there might not be a street there now. That's what the joint planning effort was kind of looking at is what's the logical alignment for east west connections through what's there now goes up and then turns down into the graveyard. Uh where at on you talking west of the amu the old munitions plant. Yes. Okay. 127th Street comes across. Okay. And

well I we we vetted a lot of that out during during that process. These alignments are pretty broad brush lines on the map. We there may be adjustments that have to be made in the final design. I'm just trying to figure out if you guys plan to put a freeway through uh my front door. Where's your front door? 127th and Evening Star. We are not trying to put a freeway through your front door. If you if you look at that blue line that goes through the middle of the plant, that's the one we talked about. If you're going to try to push traffic, we try to push that through the plant. So, I think that's been where we've kind of come from, right? Yeah.

So, I think the hope is that if we're going to have any kind of a thoroughare that goes from north to south through there, it's going to run through the plant property. That's what we're trying to get done. Whether we'll be successful at that or not, I don't know. But that's So, the access to what you guys want to develop, that's all from the plant side. Nothing's going to be coming through from Yeah. of any access of any sort of significant scale the from the north um for off the K10 off the brand new street that we just pulled in. Are we talking about dirt roads or paved roads?

Well, any sort of development of the scale and scope of industrial nature that would happen on this reszone property. We're talking about paved roads, city standard, curb gutter, sidewalk, multi-use paths. We're talking about the whole real deal. I'm not going to allow And I'm sorry. Can I get your name and address for the record? Sorry. Tom Murray um 39100 West 127th Street. Thank you Tom.

So the buildout of infrastructure within Astra Enterprise Park will all be that you know commensurate with what needs to happen to support industrial development. these lines here, you know, that the most of them are old county um county rideway lines, county easement road lines, and the plan has bifurcated those in this part of the county for 80 years now. So, we were just trying to establish if there are going to be corridors, what would be the logical east west connections, that's what the east west lines are for. Uh but as you know as as as was mentioned the the north south alignment there specifically that connection through we want to make sure that happens within the enterprise part and not affecting uh local you know other private properties so that

so it answered your question we're trying our best to keep it so that it doesn't put a freeway in your driveway the idea is that it's going to run through I have an easement running north south car road that cuts off part of my beginning. Totally understand. And uh that's where the the Air National Guard and is all that stuff removed now. I They moved out. So, uh I'm not sure about Air National Guard. So, the Army presence is long gone. um really the military presence they had. It's private owned, you know, it's owned by a private uh the whole 9,000 acres. Oh yeah.

Talking about the former Enterprise Department privately owned. Is that what you're talking about? No, I'm talking about the 80 acres that used to be where Air National Guard would come in and do practice. Brothers, where is that within Astro Enterprise Park? Within that's probably it's in the 9,000 whatever as far as in that. No, to our knowledge there's no there's there's not a ongoing presence there, but I can't I don't know if the army may have some arrangement with the owner to temporarily do that. I sorry I can't answer your question. Thank you.

Any other public comment? Okay, now I'll close the post matters before the planning commission.

Yeah, I think the request follows the future land use plan. It's a great spot for the zoning. It's been cleaned up. Um, get utilities to it. It's got buffer on the west side with the parks coming in. I think it's the right spot for it. So, I would like to hear what everybody else has to say, but I'd um be in support of recommending approval. Kind of in the same boat if we're going to have M1, I just assume it stay out there.

Motions. Based on staff's professional opinion, following the golden criteria, I make a motion to recommend approval of the resing of 425 acres at the southwest corner of Astra Parkway and 119th from RUR to M1. Second move and seconded. Any further discussion? Roll call. Schultz, yes. Milurn, yes. Huggin, yes. Lane, yes. Templan, yes. Martin, yes. Motion carries.

Thank you. brings us to item 5B. Consider reszoning of 78 acres at 100070 Estar Road to C2. All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Recently, the city council annexed these two tracks into the city of Dodto and the applicant GW Weld has asked for consideration be reszoned to C2. before the actually it's probably three four months ago we had another reszoning by same applicant owner same process they went through was requested to be annexed into the city council agreed and we had a public hearing on actually at that time we had apartments that were being considered R3 and then also commercial development ultimately the R3 was withdrawn and it was reszoned to C2 and so this is uh again a request now to reszone these 78 acres which is north of K10 highway along Evening Star and to the west. So you can see the tracks under consideration on page two of the staff report. You can see where the areas of property that have been annexed currently the C2 areas. Uh people were talking about the the Ger Guyger concrete plant that's south of K10 along Evening Star and that's on that C2 track down there. Uh this tract is north of Evening Star Road and does have access to the road itself, Evening Star Road itself. There is a homestead on the property in the get all my directions straight on the southwest corner of these tracks. They've been row crops for quite some time and has been in the county as a rur rural residential tract. Just go quickly through the zoning

compatibility factors. We did have this type of a fairly lively discussion. Previously in the planning commission when we talked about the R3 and then also the C2 in this area. This is one of the steps in the development of property. you've got a major highway running through an area, a lot of development going on. It's been part of our land use plan for quite some time to have these areas, especially on the interchanges, shown as commercial development. So, it is consistent with our future land use plan. Um, recognizing the fact that there is hasn't there aren't any utilities particularly in this area. It's not ready for development, but it is now within city limits. It's within Dodto's uh governing area and the applicant has requested a change from RUR to C2. Once again, this is area it's it's growing. It's turning into a industrial center. It's an employment center. So, you'll certainly see a lot of these types of issues that come up as the areas change from rural residential to a more developable and more intense type of use. As you can see, Mr. Chairman, you brought up the golden criteria. The one thing that I did give it a negative on is the utilities, the lack of utilities. The road network needs to be improved. Uh we talk about this a lot, but site plans with lighting studies, uh making sure the traffic impacts are minimalized. Uh phototrics are part of that. So with all that um information, staff is recommending approval of the change to C2 in this area. It is once again I did say it's consistent with our land use plan. Um and the only negative is the uh utilities in the area. So it's

not ready for development yet, but it's that first step in preparing for what comes next. So with that, I'll stand for any questions. I didn't get any direct comments on this from anybody uh the residents in the neighborhood when we sent out letters and also put out the signs for this location, but I did assume that there would be comments at the public meeting tonight. And a lot of those comments and concerns have been brought up brought up brought up previously. So I think we're all well aware of concerns if we've gone through several of these resonings not just here but other parts of town that the change has not been looked upon particularly favorable by the residents of the area and you also have that county city kind of dynamic as well. So try to uh accommodate as many people as best we can.

Thank you Brad. Questions for Brad.

All right. Well, this matter is a public hearing. Anyone would like to address the planning commission regarding this application, please approach the podium. Give us your name and address. Good evening. My name is Penny Vonan. I live at 1346 East 2350 Road, Odora. Our family has lived on the farm, which includes the property directly to the west of the subject property since 1950. We've been good stewards of the land because we understand the true worth of land, not in dollars, but as a necessary host for all biodiversity that we depend on. as a mitigator for floodwaters, as a climate regulator, as a major carbon sink, as a water and pollutant filter. It's a non-land I'm talking about is a nonrenewable resource, non-renewable for ecosystems, and therefore for us that we depend on. And finally, land produces 95% of what we all eat. And yet we're poised to destroy another 78 acres right in the middle of an agricultural area. Not on the edge of a town where these are usually cited, but in the middle of a productive agricultural area. This zoning, which includes contractor yards, auto sales, implement sales, was uh proposed with little regard for the folks who have who have built their dream houses, their country retirement homes north on um Evening Star Road, west on the County

Line Road, and um south on 103rd Street. Some of those homes were built as recently as this fall. Please consider the true value of land before we destroy it. And please consider the impropriy of this zoning at this particular location. Thank you very much.

Thank you. I'm Megan Russell. I live at 9945 County Line Road. I've fought a long hard battle to get out here into the country to enjoy the peace of my family farm and this right up to the T-Core which is where I was raised grew up there and I've now come back to retire built a very expensive small but a very expensive custom home tiny little corner of that on County Line Road. I'm getting so much light pollution already from the Amazon plant or warehouse. Light pollution is horrible. Also, our field is not row crops. It will disrupt that. We have livestock on that land. It will be disruptive to have businesses there where we're trying to house livestock and you know grow beef and things for this country and help out other farmers who also need space for their cows because land is just disappearing everywhere. And I know I wasn't at the last meeting. Um, so I'm not sure what was proposed then, but I just thought as a brand new resident of Johnson County, um, it was very hard for me to get a permit to build there because there are no utilities. They could barely support one more home on that water line. So I wouldn't say that there's any structure for big like you said already um industrial building park type places. So consider the fact that there it's livestock that you're

butdding up against. It is not row crops. It is not invaluable. And I fought long and hard to come back just to be run out by light pollution and progress. I planned to live in this home for the rest of my life. I ADA compliant all the top floor everything and plan to hand it down through my family. And I have two children and a grandchild involved as well. So my grandparents who started this have been stewards all these years so that we could do this and now it's being destroyed and eaten up and I can't change it. But I just thought I'd put let that let you guys know that's where I live. I live there. I grew up there. Those it's important to have a place to have our livestock. It's not like you're disrupting corn with these build buildings and these light and this light pollution. There are animals on that land too and us humans all the neighbors and everything that are right there. Right next to me is also farm with cattle, my neighbors. So it's not just humans that have to think about the progress and we have to accept it, but it's livestock that we need as a country to grow our own beef and things like that, not have to rely on another source of food from somewhere else. So this was my first addressing of you guys, so I'm not sure what else was said, but I thank you for hearing me. Thank you for talking

and um

thanks. Hi, I'm Chris Crawford and I live at 9820 Evening Star Road that I but the property that you're trying to reszone and uh I just want to kind of state my firm disagreement with that. Um like Mrs. Monokin said, we're out there in a rural community and we have been for a long time. And this is the second time I lived. I had a 80 acres in the city of Dodto where all the schools are and they imminent domain me. So this is the second beating I'm trying to get from from you guys basically. And um so I just want to voice my disapproval. Thank you. How's it going? Jackson Brungert, 40025 West 111 Street, Udor, Kansas. I own property that's south, but I was here, I think about a year ago with in front of you guys for the Geer thing. We've all been affected by your guys's uh commercial reszoning and then the upgrades to Dodto. It's great great for Dodto, but do any of you guys own land out there? You guys see the light pollution that's happening? The people that are actually affected by it, the people who come up to you voice their reasoning. We own it out there. We see it every day. You know, you guys can't control much, but we deal with the construction, the loud noise, how some of us own livestock, some of us don't, right? The

livestock also take into effect for them. Um, but ultimately, while there's few of us that live south of that, we're affected by Guyer every day. Parking their vehicles in and out for all the development that's going up over there, right? Blocking the access ways. Trust me, that's been a fight in itself. I don't want these people to have to go through it. So, please don't reszone this. Keep it rural agriculture and let other generations of family start their country living out in Dodto. Keep all your development south and to the east. Thank you.

Thank you. Anyone else like to address this during the public hearing? No one online. Just Mr. Taylor. I I have one more question. Is this land sale or reszoning contingent on the sale of the ground? Do you understand what I'm

I don't know that from the application we know that there is a contingency on a sale they get a resoning we don't normally know that it's in contract might be we don't get that with that I'll close the public hearing matters before the planning commission.

Can you uh pull up the future landings plan for me, Mike? Or Sure. Yeah. So, it's here. Can you see the cursor? Yeah, it's the pink and then the is that the brown just to the west, right? And that blue line is a future road. Correct. Okay. And that's the north line.

That's the north line. And that pink is is that that's commercial. Yes. And the brown would be multi family,

right? So I mean it's again It's some of the same comments I make at every planning commission meeting. Um, you know, I listen to all the neighbors concerns. I I I feel for the concerns of the neighbors. Um, but again, this is a corner on a major highway. It's got great access north and south. Um, there's development on the south side of K10. utilities are in the area can be extended and it's unfortunately been shown on the future Lanny's plan as commercial and multif family and it it unfortunately leads to the development of commercial and type development in this area in that corner. So, two points. One is the future land use map has a portion of this designated as commercial and another portion designated I assume

we probably did that to create some sort of transition between the commercial and and the neighboring properties. Yep. They're asking to reszoning the entire thing as commercial. Yep. So, to a certain extent it's not consistent with the with

um for the benefit of the folks in the audience as well, the future land use map was developed with a couple of criteria in mind. One of which is that commercial development should be pushed to towards the interchanges so that we don't have commercial pockets that aren't away from that. So this is generally consistent with the theory that if you're going to try to have a planned development as opposed to just letting things happen wherever they have them, you want to put some some guidance to it. And the one of the guiding principles is commercial development ought to be near those interchanges. I know that doesn't help you if you built your dream home right back up against an interchange. I get that. But that's kind of where it goes.

Family land.

So, you know, I I'm with you and and that I think that it's consistent with the overall plan is that that we do have commercial ground there. I think that not unlike the last time we did a resoning affecting the property across the street, buffering is an issue and what commercial uses we're going to have and whe whether those are going to have sufficient buffering to the other existing uses so we don't make it impossible for those folks to enjoy their property. That's a that's a big issue. So I do question the wisdom of of reszoning the entirety of this track to commercial. Um, I do think it's certainly appropriate as consistent with the land use plan, but beyond that, this is kind of a a bigger ask and maybe that's worth looking at.

Yeah. And again, it's the same I hear you chairman, but it's also the same comments that, you know, this is a land use question. And then if once they decide what they want to develop there, um, you know, they got to submit the site plan, got to have landscaping concerns with the lights, you know, they got to make sure there's no light trespass on other properties. So, we're still going to see those other plans come through. And I I do somebody else that we do need some type of buffering.

I understand where you all are coming from because I feel the same way. We're losing our rural land and it's not just us. It's all around us that we're losing our rural land. And what may have looked good before and may look good on paper is like we do want to concentrate it and I understand that but at the same time we can't give up all of our natural resources because like was said earlier once they're gone they're gone. We can't get them back. We'll never get them back. Um so I would disagree with the result. I got a question on this future land use map. There's city limit. Are those accurate?

No. Uh this is this has been um the subject parcels been. So they're 6 months old.

Mr. Chairman, if I could first of all, I wanted to address the uh property sale issue. When the application was turned in, the owners of the property signed the affidavit approving that their property. So, um, the applicant at this point did not own the property when it was the application was submitted. However, the owners of the tracks had signed the affidavit. So, they are well aware. That's a big part of what we uh make sure is happening is the owners of the property know that they're and they are in agreement that these properties are being considered for reszoning. I guess the other thing I might just say about the M the C2 and the R3 when we look at different densities and hierarchies of development and we go from M2 M1 basically C2 and then R3 is just right below the C2 as far as density. So my consideration is when I looked at the C2 and the R3, I mean they're really, you know, hand and glove in many ways as far as the impacts to to neighbors. So I didn't see a significant difference between just because one tract is R3 and the other is C2 that it was that different. And then as you recall when we had the previous resoning request, we did have a fair amount of that as R3 and that was withdrawn due to concerns by the neighbors and went with the C2. So that's just a little more background information for you.

So rather than C2 backs up to rural ground, what are the buffer requirements for this? Well, I don't know those off the top of my head, but we do have a fairly significant buffering requirement. We remember when we did the uh residences at Lexington, we have a pretty significant buffering requirement. Harps, if you look at that, that backs up to large lot subdivision. If you actually go behind the building, there's some retaining walls and taller fences, a lot of landscaping. It's all irrigated. So we've really we have enforced the planning commission has enforced a lot of the buffering or all the buffering requirements that we do make developers.

So the rationale for that buffering is to eliminate the line of sight between the properties. Yeah. As as much as possible. you're not going to make, you know, a building disappear, but uh and and the difference between and the the buffering gets more stringent if you have like a C2 versus a rural area, uh versus if it backed up to duplexes, there would be a lot more requirements for that buffering strip.

I just quickly looked them up. So if you're considering a C2 transition to like an rural agriculture or a low density residential, that buffer type would be a C, which is the most restrictive, the the largest buffer type. Um it the width would be from 20 to 40 feet and then their planning requirements. In addition to all that, uh, dozens of trees, dozens of planting units, uh, fence, wall or burm, uh, would also be required for a 20 or 30 ft. So that gives you some idea of what that buffer requirement it it would be situation like that would be the most restrictive buffer and of course all this would have to happen on the development side.

Yeah. You know what troubles me about this and we just haven't done it is I hadn't really studied it. We knew that we had a couple of reasonzonings that had occurred there but you know we still haven't studied that and I I don't know you know certainly you don't have the utilities to service it. That's the one factor you've got right now. The point of the RUR is to kind of keep it there until you kind of know where you're going to have those utilities. We've reszoned everything that buts the highway pretty much already. But this extension troubles me because I don't know whether that's going to fit with what eventually is going to end up there. So I do have reservations about it.

Kind of an agreement with that there. It seems like when we did this, myself included, I don't think we were thinking far enough in the future because basically now we've got C2 budding up against people that are still in the county. There's no buffer and irregardless of what the phototric plans say, there's no way you're going to keep the light pollution out of this. Panasonic and the warehouse are perfect examples of that. You can see the Panasonic glow from THA. Uh yeah, I've been around here a long time. I just don't want to see this not be good neighbors. We did this to the people on Edertton Road right across the street from that warehouse. And I don't necessarily agree with everything in the compatibility factors A and B uh head positive on both of those. I don't agree with that. The character of the neighborhood, this is not a positive to the character of the neighborhood. The compatibility is not positive. I do agree with the deal about the adequacy of the utilities being negative. Uh I really think we need to take a look at this land use again and take a hard look at what we're doing to these people.

So based on that, I would not be in favor of reszoning this. And this is important. So you you specifically disagree with the the the findings on A and B. Yes. And you emphasize the finding in F on the negative for having systems services to it, utilities to it. Just because we have to make a record here. We got to make a record here because we got to make specific findings. I disagree with B and agree with F.

I don't need to rehash what's already been said, but I think I'm in agreement that we're losing the buffering. Uh we had the transition in there for a reason at one point. I mean, I would just add to that to me from my perspective, this is 80 acres of commercial that we're basically piling on when we haven't seen anything happen with the other areas of commercial that actually butts the highway. I I don't think waiting is necessarily a bad thing to see how this develops, but that's that's my view. It may be appropriate at some point. Certainly, portion of it, we've already identified it as being potentially appropriate, but asking for the full 80 acres at this point seems like a lot. I guess the only thing I would add at this point, Mr. Chairman, is this is probably the toughest decision that planning commissioners have to make is when you have these types of issues where cities are expanding and you have to make judgment calls on when and where things happen. But part of the thing that you know my job is to look at is well the overall community doesn't benefit and that's one of the charges of weighing the few against the many and and once again it's it's not a fun decision to have to make but um and we we are a nation of laws and property rights and the owners have submitted to this potential request. So that that carries a lot of weight with myself. If the owners didn't want to have this done, they they wouldn't we wouldn't be here tonight. So I think that's also going to be part of your consideration. But

well certainly hopefully my comments weren't taken as being disrespectful of the people who own the property. I get no I don't I question 80 acres of commercial use is appropriate in this spot and I think that's the question we're trying to wrestle with. It's not matter of picking and choosing. Any other comments, questions, argument?

I would uh my crystal ball doesn't work very good. But I would guess that a piece of property this close to 10 highway someday would be appropriately done. I without the utilities there, without the density of potential customers surrounding it, I I think it's going to be a long time this and I would say it's premature at this point. I would probably You want to make a motion?

I'll make a motion that we deny the recommendations. for annexation.

I we need to have a couple specific reasons, not just Can I Can I offer?

Yes, please. specifically because it's inconsistent with item A in the staff report, finding that we disagree with that and finding we disagree with item B in the staff report and with the fact that we're influenced by the negative finding on F. I think that summarizes what you said, John, and I think it kind of gets to your point. you don't think is ready for yet. How's that sound? Patrick, okay with that?

Well, I was just going to um just for clarification, this is a recommendation to the city council. Correct. So, for everybody in the audience, uh the planning commission makes the recommendation. The city council will actually take this item up. Um most likely, unless we get a withdrawal from the applicant, that'll be on March 19th. That's a Thursday night. So, the council will actually take the recommendation of the planning commission and make the final decision on the result. And that meeting 7 p.m., not 6. 7 p.m., not 6. Yes. Thanks. Motion's been made. I'll second.

Second. Any further discussion? Roco Schultz, the yes is voting for yes, yes. Mil, no. Huggin, yes. Lane, yes. Templan, yes. Martin, yes. Motion carries. Thank you. And thank you all for coming tonight. I do re-echo Commissioner Huggin's comments that at some point this is probably going to be appropriate for commercial development. I do think we probably owe it to everybody to take a good look at how that's going to happen. And this was an awfully big bite. So, thank you for coming.

Thank you. Okay. Item 5C, consider text amendment to zoning regulation for allowable uses in an M1.

All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As um Mike brought up our last meeting, there's been some activity as far as auto manufacturing potentially at the Astra Enterprise Park and we did have a little bit of discussion at the meeting last time. Um, have you weighed in on if this is a heavy use which is currently shown in our zoning regulations, why shouldn't they just reszone to M2 versus us changing our code and allowing a broader use in to M1? Um, so there I mean there are points on either side of the U process as far as what works best. U once again we talk about site plans. There's a lot of things that we can do to make sure at least the exterior components of a potential auto manu auto manufacturing plant are as best compatible as possible. And but then on the flip side, you can say, well, maybe they should just reszone. Well, the challenge of resoning, we've been through this before. Somebody came in with all sorts of good intentions to do a resoning, changed the reasoning, and then walked away. And then you look at all the list of items that are allowed in a maybe a district. Maybe we wanted this one piece, but when you reszone to something, you get, you know, ballistic missile manufacturing and all sorts of things that are allowed in the M2. So, as Mike and I have talked about this, it would probably be more, in our opinion, be more appropriate to allow it into M1. Um, and then if that because most of that in the plan use plan does show that Aster Enterprise Park will be an M1 use by and large. There might be a few areas that could go to M2, but I I

kind of doubt that. So, I did some research on as best possible. I actually even looked in if there's a way to get a tour of the Fairfax plant and uh that was an absolute hard no. Uh, you're not getting in there. But everything I could find, you know, shows that automobiles are not made, you know, like they were in the 50s and 60s and 70s. They are a lot different. They're much more cleaner use. Actually, the robots and machines are making the cars more than people are. And um they are, but once again, they're very assembly oriented, but they're not they're not what you think about um you know, in the 60s and 70s. So with that information, um, we had a little bit of discussion on it last time and based on the fact that I I would not be in favor of saying why don't we just make them or request to be reszoned to M2. I think it'd be better to modify our code for an allowable use in M1. I don't know, Mike, if you wanted to weigh in on anything.

Brad, I think you covered it pretty well. Yeah. um the types of economic development opportunities that we're seeing come through. Quite a few of them are in the main auto manual. So that's why we're specifically looking at this one now. There might be others along here that could warrant a similar a similar uh uh look, but it's pretty clear the current state of the industry. If a new facility is being built, it's uh much less intensive in nature than even what you might see at Fairfax if you were even able to gain So all these processes are all inside kind of like Panasonic.

Yeah. Yeah. Now there may be multiple buildings but yeah there's there outside storage and moving the materials you know doesn't take place. You don't see you don't see yards and lots with a lot of that going on. So so the M1 would restrict outside.

Yeah. Well, um M2 does as well to some degree. Yeah. So M1 would require a larger buffering uh of and and the outside storage of bulk materials. It's uh some of the finished products, you know, if it's if it's a vehicle, there may be a lot there where they have the finished products. But for the large part, either zone, either district would restrict or prohibit the outside storage of the raw materials going in so that you don't get the kind of the bulk activity of the loader or the the forklift or that sort of activity taking place outside.

So, so these people that are or companies that are coming here, are they we're talking large building type people? So, you know, we're automatically shortlisted for every manufacturer potential mega project that wants to happen in North America. I mean, that's just the case. And Tim will tell you, he's got a spreadsheet a mile long with project this and that and the other. And a lot of them are in this and now they may they might be component manufacturers, they might be EV like Panasonic, uh, but they're just a number of them that fall into this category. So, it's not for any particular. But um the first thing they want to know is the site zone for the use that they want. And so we can explain to them well you need a special use permit or we need to reszone you too or when you start having those discussions you get scratched off those list. So

I guess the only reason why I ask is my concern I just pulled up the existing you know showing the current M1 you know zoning. only I guess not not my only concern would be that we're changing this on an existing zoning. You're right. And I was just that's why I was asking like the existing zoning, you know, there's a lot of restrictions, you know, down by the river, you know, there's no, you know, 8 foot of water through there. So, I mean, that kind of starting to rule that one out a little bit, but, you know, kind of stuff around, you know, the Hudamaki, you know, the the Goodsense area. Yeah. Know that's 20 acres. I mean, that really big enough? I mean, is that really

what if it's if it's a small component use or if they're having a smaller type of operation, it's going to look like Mr. Goodson. It's going to look like custom foods. It's going to look like root sip. Those are just fine there. I mean, those I mean, that's what it's going to look like. That said, if you permit this, there's nothing that says it's going to look like those. And if it's in the that category of use and they don't have the modern technology that do as you suggested, they're going to be allowed to do it, right? To use. Yeah. While we still have the M1 restrictions on site planning with buffer and screening, right, things like that, we do have those controls. Obviously, I guess I just don't want to say we're going to try and pigeon hole these people out to ask,

you know, all the existing zoning. I'm just trying to just look at that in my own head. If it's a 10acre, you know, something like Panasonic, it ain't going to fit north of 10. So, of course. Yeah. So those are I'm not going to say protected but it won't work on those. A change like this won't impact those existing zones because the building won't fit. True. Of that scale. Yeah.

But there may be opportunities for like small component small ports. All they do is build the little widget that goes in wherever. Um, you know, that's that's a possibility that they need a little 30acre site somewhere and they pluck it next to, you know, put it next to rear, you know, again, I mean, I think the argument holds, you know, I think at least the recommendation is, uh, that this particular type manufacturing would be appropriate even with neighbors around. So, this is a public hearing item. Any other questions or comments we want to make before we open it up?

Okay. Thank you, Brad. Matters uh before the planning commission for a public hearing on the amendment to a zoning regulation uh for allowable uses in the M1 district. Anyone would like to address the planning commission on this, please approach the podium. Give us your name and address.

Seeing none, I assume there's no one on the line. Correct.

Close the public hearing matters before the planning commission. So Brad, these would be permitted uses. Yeah, they would they would be permitted by right and the reason we I mean we as you recall Mike had a a little bit broader list on the previous meeting as we talked that we thought I would just we would just be more specific and keep it towards the motor vehicle manufacturing and then you know some components potentially for that body and trailer and and parts as well. So then any business that doesn't fall within those three categories, it's still a special use permit.

Yes. Well, we'd have to look at that specific use of what they're doing if throughout the ballistic missile thing. Uh if that's what they were doing, then they would not be able to do that without a special use permit. So this is permitted by right. That's what we're changing or adding to the the the table is these uses potentially could happen by right versus not having to go through a special use permit process. So if they don't fall within that 3161 category and that's why when we get to this point, you know, somebody shows up and says, "Hey, I want to do this." It's like, "Well, then I do check the NICS category and say, well, what are you going to make and will it work?" And it's like, well, you know, a lot of times it's nope, not going to work. You know, we a while back we had a company that approached us about dog manufacturing, dog food manufacturing. And it's like, you know, not going to work. You know, they're talking about, well, we got a tower that's going to be 125 ft tall. Why don't we only allow M1? You I mean, it just went on down the line and it's just like, well, why don't we zone to M2? It's like, no, not going to support that. And so, I mean, that does happen. So, I don't want you to get the feeling that we're always just going, "Yeah, we'll we'll change this. We'll help you with that." You know, so I guess those things don't ever get to the planning commission. They generally stop at my door or Mike's door and don't go any farther.

Well, I guess my view would be, you know, it's not so much the business as it is the environment or what it does. Usually I think it's something fairly intrusive mostly contained within the building which just looks like kind of agree with that same sentiment. I mean spots of I mean I'm just again concerned about stuff north of 10 and some south too but um I think based on those sizes and what type of building can you go in there would be comfortable with these changes. Any other comments?

Motions? Assume we're recommending approval? Yes. It goes to city c. We approve it. No, this is a text amendment. It does go to the city council. We're amending the zoning regulations. So, yeah, it goes to the council. I make a motion. We recommend approval of the uh text amendment uh for M1 zoning districts uh at staff's recommendation.

Second moved and seconded. Any further discussion? Roll call. Martin, yes. Templan, no. Lane, no. Huggin, yes. Milk, yes. Schultz, yes. Motion carries. Thank you. Item 5D, consider text amendment designing regulation for tree plantings in rural subdivisions.

Okay. Well, hopefully this one this will be an easy one. I'm hoping we can all just relax a little bit. Uh we've had some tough decisions tonight before you. Um, we talked about this a little bit last time and it came up during the preliminary plat and the final plat that the applicant with a large lot rural subdivision wanted to didn't want to have the trees, you know, 40 foot spaced and felt it'd be better, more conducive to a rural subdivision, rural area to have the trees masked in areas. So you've got language in front of you that says we'd still require the same amount of trees, but we'd give the developer the ability to said mass them together and have groups of trees versus just kind of like lollipops in a row. One thing I did want to point out, um, Mr. Chairman is that Patrick of course looks at the details and we don't actually use the term rural subdivision. So it's actually it comes up in the rural street section. So that's what we need. The motion if you're going to recommend approval is to have a rural street section allow for massing of street trees versus a rural subdivision.

Where would that change manifest? Well, actually I was just Yeah, it would just be in the where the red is instead of rural subdivision say rural street section. Okay. Only. So that change would be from subdivision to street section. Correct. Thank you.

Well, you've witnessed this discussion. Does anybody have an objection to this? No objection. Further discussion. Okay. Well, it is public hearing, Mr. Chairman. So, Oh, that's true. My bad. I'm sorry. Public hearing matter. Anyone who'd like to be heard on this, please approach the podium. Give us your name and address. Seeing none, no one online. Nope. Close the public hearing that is before the commission. I support this change. Supported motions.

Read that. I make a motion that we accept the street tree plantings to be grouped alongside furniture of the rural street. Street section. U tree required will still equal the street length divided by 40 as as recommended by staff. As recommended by staff moved and seconded. Further discussion roll. Yes. Schultz, yes. Huggin, yes. Lane, yes. Martin, yes. Yes. Motion carries. Thank you.

Item 5e, consider text amendment to zoning regulation for the size of accessory buildings.

All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We did talk about this at the previous meeting as well where we've had several residents wanting to build larger accessory buildings on their property and they were all the ones that have come before myself and then also with the building officials office is 5 acres and more. So tinkered around with the square footage or the maximum size for the five to 10. So you can see we've got this sort of uh number for the previous acreage size plus a 300 square foot per acre to increase that size. And so we've increased or the recommendation is to increase that to 44700 square foot for the 5 to 10. And then we really couldn't come up with a maximum for the larger to met the zoning requirements, but I felt I wanted to go a little bit farther than that than just, you know, I mean, you could build right up the edge of the building line or the setback line, which could be a fairly large structure and wanted to have another set of eyes, so to speak. So, I added must comply at the zoning district setbacks and requires site plan approval by the planning commission for the tenant up. So it's there's no max, but they do need to bring it before the planning commission for site plan evaluation

on any size or anything above 4700 on any size. Well, the aster only applies to the plus. Yeah, it's just the 10 and up. Yeah. So you wouldn't have to come for a site plan for the rest of Right. Right. Right. But I guess if if a 10 acre track they only want to put up 1500 square foot building, would they have to do a site? That's a good point. Hadn't really thought about that. So maybe it could be over 4700 and over would be Mhm. Then they'd have to come back for a site plan.

Maybe we want to clarify that. Okay. Any other questions for Brad? Okay. Matter is a matter of a public hearing. So, I'll open the public hearing. Anyone would like to address the planning commission regarding this text amendment regarding the size of accessory buildings, please approach the podium. Give us your name and address for the record. Seeing none. Anyone online?

Don't think so, sir. It looks like Rick Odo is online. I don't know if he's wanting, but I've Yeah. Okay. Thank you. I will then close the public hearing the matters before the planning commission. So we have one recommendation to clarify the 10 and over acreage and that it's only for structures greater than 4200 square feet. Is it 4200 or is it 4700? 4700 structures over 4,700 square feet have to come with a site plan. Mhm. Yeah.

Okay. Any other comments, edits, complaints? Why are you looking at me? I know you, Bill.

Motions. I make a motion that we approve the um the um suggested recommendations with the modification that anything over 4700 ft requires a site plan. That sound appropriate? Yep. A second. Moved and seconded. Any further discussion? Roll call. Schultz, yes. Mil, yes. Martin,

yes. Templan, yes. Lane, yes. Huggin, yes. Motion cares. Thank you. No old business tonight, but new business. We have

East Town Homes. As you recall, when we approved the preliminary plat, it showed single family residences and then tracks for town home development, which requires a site plan. It's not part of a preliminary plat. So, the lots and the uh tracks have been broken up into pieces, but when they want to come back and actually build because we consider town homes multifamily, that falls into our site plan category. So, what you have before you is uh 11 town hall buildings with 42 total dwelling units. Um there's six fiveplexes, two threelexes and three twolex units with parking garages. They're three and four bedrooms actually is an office potential office which would could option could function as a bedroom as well. All parking is off street for R3 or town home development. They certainly meet that requirement. There won't be any community trash containers, things like that because they I mean they're really single family homes, but they're just have a common wall between the units. So all the storm water, all the uh photoometrics were taken care in the preliminary plat. The roads have been constructed are in place. sanitary sewer and uh sanitary sewer is in place. I think believe the water is in place. I don't know if it's been tested for uh chlorination yet, but uh this is this development is ready to go. So the applicant is here before you tonight with the site plan and it does conform with the preliminary plat. Uh briefly, you do have some information on the architectural standards in the buildings of the buildings themselves. have some colored renderings on what they they'll look like. They they One thing we're concerned I did emphasize to the developers, we just don't want to have

the same one over and over and over. So, there is some color variation. There is some changes with the uh fronts of the buildings that would allow for some differentiation of the architectural features. No signage has been requested. Still working on the location for a community mailbox. That will be part of uh something that's going to be worked out with the postmaster. One thing I did want to point out is because the driveways are it's twocar garages and the driveways are basically that width and our street tree plantings require 40 ft on center. We can't meet that or developer wouldn't be able to meet that because of the the way the houses are or the town homes are set up. We do have a section in the code that does allow the planning commission to approve an alternative landscape plan that shows the uh and you have to have a reason if you can comply. You just have to comply. But in this case, the way the town homes are set up, that 40 foot spacing would not work very well. So worked with them to uh work uh plant additional trees in some of the areas between the buildings and also as a area behind and sort of help differentiate between the town home development and the single family residences that are on site as well. So with that part of a motion if you choose to approve this is to also indicate that you uh approve the alternate alternative site plan as well. So with that I'll stand for any questions you have. Also the developers here tonight they've got some sample boards. If you'd like to see some of the finishes and things like that that they're proposing you certainly have that opportunity. Thank you, Brad. Questions for Brad?

So, Brad, our action on this would allow them to apply for a building permit. Well, they'd actually have Yes. Yes, it will because the town homes are grouped. Now, one thing we did talk about with them is they might want to potentially subdivide, so to speak, the the town homes so they could be sold. Right now the proc the thought process that they would be rentals but at some point maybe the market conditions change and they might want to sell them individually. So at this point yes it's based on the preliminary plat.

Make sure I understand what you just said there. So these each are actually located on individual lots are they not? No. At this point they're all well they're those pieces are all like the ones on you can see like that is one big lot. Okay. So those are those haven't been subdivided into lots. No. Okay. Yeah. That dash line is was just for reference like if that's they might uh come back with a final plat or a replat kind of like what we do with the carriage houses. Yeah. Something like that if they want to consider selling. What's before us. What's before us here is not a condominium development. This is basically all going to be rental property.

Okay. So Brad, you might have said that does the plan conform with the preliminary plat? Yes, it does. And then the number of trees that they have shown it does equal the 40 foot every 40 foot spacing the number on there. Actually, I think it exceeds that once I got to the point where it met it. There's there's quite a few that they added. And really, a lot of it is a lot of it. There is a lot of trees along the street. They just couldn't meet the criteria of the every 40 ft. So, there's a lot of drywood.

Yeah, that's the way they're building it. And Brad, you talked about some variety. I just see one. I think what he means is the variation between those. Yeah, that's in the the packet further back. It's actually towards the end. This picture here in your packet. And this is not just how these three will work. I mean, they can be mixed and matched. Um, so that's just some of the different types of looks that you can get.

So all these units are basically four bedroomedroom units. Yes, as I understand it. Interesting. And is it is what they're wanting to develop today is just that southwest corner. Yeah. Phase one. Okay. Would they be multifamily within those four units or do we have rules on that? Well, I guess they're really single families that are just kind of like the um ones that Joe Roy did over at Cottage Creek, right? And we've had a few others. Anderson, I don't know that we have rules regulating uh unrelated tenants, co- tenants. I don't they do like Lawrence,

not like the college town needs. Yeah, we don't really we don't have anything like that. I don't know. That's the market. I don't know. Yeah, we don't we don't regulate it. Okay. Other comments, questions,

but the applicant's here tonight if you'd like to hear from them. So, want to hear from the applicant? I don't see anybody saying they want to hear from the applicant. So, what comments you have, what motions do you want to do? I mean it it conforms to the plinary plat based on what Brad told me about the landscaping. They're add more landscaping than what's required. Seems like it's in line of what we've approved previously on this project.

And this is approval by the planning commission. It is Well, I would make a motion that we approve site plan for the East Town Homes based on staff's presentation. I want if you could thank you. Motion made second.

Second. Moved and seconded. Further discussion.

Roll call. Yes. Lane. Yes. Huggin. Yes. Martin. Yes. Milbour. Yes. Schultz. Yes. Motion carries. Thank you. Mr. Milburn, I think you said you had a conflict on this next one.

Go into 10. Item 7B, consider Arbor Ridge final plat number four. I my packet I didn't get that. So I'm a bit of a loss. I apologize for that. Did everybody else get it? Did it not get on me? Oh, okay. Okay, Brad.

All right. Well, what you have before you is Arbor Ridge fourth plat. This property actually is a planned development. Still part of the original development that was part of was approved I guess 2005. So, I did include the development plan that was approved back then for reference. Now, there have been some tweaks as it went from finishing up phase one to phase two and then phase three and now we're ultimately at phase 4. There's only some real slight differences. There's only one additional lot from what was originally proposed. The street system, I think, is better than what was proposed initially because there's some lot of short culde-sacs and just seemed a little bit more choppy to me. this flows a little bit better. Then additionally, um the applicant is here tonight. That was Rick Odo. He's online. Uh but they own the property to the south and they're looking to continue the Arbor Ridge subdivision. Now, that'll be in a uh R1 or an R2. It's actually zoned R1 right now. So, that will that'll carry on. The PD will stop with this development here, but I don't think you'll see any significant change between how the homes look and how they'll operate and the subdivision themselves. But uh once again we're just talking about phase four of Arbor Ridge and it is consistent with the original development plan that went through a like I said plan development process was public hearing and we are now just finally 20 years later ready to get to the phase four. Now, there are some issues with the sanitary sewer being worked out in concert with the Grota development as far as up at K10 and Kill Creek. The sewer line will work its way through

here. But like I said, the time is ready and the applicant is ready to move forward with public improvements as best possible to this area and start building. So, where is the sewer connection for this? It's it's going to go it's coming up the creek. Well, so most of this area it will already drain to a sewer line that's kind of down in this draw. Okay. So the end of this culde-sac is going to be reliant on the sewer line that's being run for the development. Just that portion thread this kind of guess I'd say about maybe you know dozen lots up in this culdeac.

Okay. The rest of it can go through the s main there. Yeah. Thank you, Brad. Questions for Brad?

Yeah, and this is a final plat. So really, it's the things that we look at preliminary plats, landscaping, things like that. Those were already approves approved in 2005. So this is just the property subdividing itself and planning commission does approve that. And then the council accepts the easements and rights of life. Any other questions for Brad? Anyone like to hear from the applicant? Questions for the applicant? Motions. I make a motion that we approve the Arbor Ridge floor plat as presented.

Second. Second. Moved and seconded. Any further discussion? Roll call. Martin, yes. Templan, yes. Lane, yes. Huggin, yes. Schultz, yes. Motion carries. Thank you. Believe that concludes our agenda for tonight. Anyone has an objection? Okay. Motion to adjurnn. Motion to adjurnn. So moved. We thank man. You never know what you're going to get.

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