Airport Commission - Noise Abatement Subcommittee - Regular Meeting

is 515. We'll call the Specialized Transit Transportation Commission Wednesday, June 24th, 2026 meeting to order. Can we have the roll, please?

Adam Brabander. Ben Lyman.

I see you, just can't get you. Present. Blake.

Bill Carter.

Here.

Supervisor Collin, I'm not sure. Barouchak. What, Barouchak?

Barouchak, here.

Okay, sorry. Jenny Hardesty. Here. Supervisor Bowden. Here. Supervisor Doolin.

She will not, she's excused.

Ron Coon.

Here. Okay. One. Business will be minutes from the May 27th, 2026 Specialized Transportation Commission. I forget a motion on that. So moved. Moved by Coon.

Alignment will move for approval.

Moved by Coon. Any questions, corrections? So before we get into the presentation, I just wanted to let Supervisor Baruchek introduce himself and then we can go around. Can I, sorry, can I interrupt?

It is really, really hard to hear all of you there in that room. Can you check the settings and turn up the microphone sensitivity if possible? I can hear all the other panelists just fine, but everybody in that room is super quiet.

Check it in now. Check it in now. Better?

Not yet. I guess we speak louder then.

I'll go to the next. Better?

I'm not really hearing a difference.

Nathaniel's just trying stuff, so I'm just watching him and seeing if he's changing levels.

Is it just me, or can anyone else hear well?

We don't see the same problem or not. Jenny says not so much.

I find that Zoom tends to change its settings when it updates. And even if I have the microphone turned up, it turns it back down.

Can't find anything on there to change the volume.

OK, well it is what it is. I will use my imagination if need be.

My thing that works.

What I find helpful was that I turned it on closed caption.

Oh good, good call I can. I can do that.

I can't find anything to adjust that.

Okay, it's under your audio. If there's like a little, you click on the upward carrot and at the bottom of the menu is audio settings. And in that you can adjust the input volume of your microphone directly.

Yeah, it shows up different on the,

The system room. I've got closed captions on, so I can now follow along. It is fine. As long as the AI gets it right.

I can keep looking while. Okay. All right. Kyle, why don't you introduce yourself and then we'll also introduce ourselves to you.

Sounds good. Thank you. I'm Colin. I am the supervisor representing the 1st district. That's downtown Madison, specifically the neighborhoods that are right around the state capital building roughly from profit. To Blair street in the, in the central area. Okay, anything else I should add second term. This is my first, yeah, so it's my first full term. I've been on the Dane County Board for almost exactly a year after winning a special election in June of 2025. Not the newest member anymore, but still pretty new.

There's a bunch behind you now. Go ahead. Could you just give us a quick background on your education, please?

Sure. I studied at UW-Madison. I studied mathematics and earned a bachelor's degree in mathematics in 2017. I've been doing government and politics related stuff since I was 16, beginning with my service as a... I was a part of the youth and governance program in Kenosha County. That was my... sort of first exposure to county governance. And my full-time job is working for a state senator on his personal staff.

Looks like you're sitting in the Capitol right now.

Yes, you recognize the walls, huh?

No those walls anywhere. Yeah, and just on a side note of that, Kenosha, the county, Dane County has a similar program, youth and governance. It started in Kenosha, because I was on the steering committee when we started it. And we used Kenosha as our model to start our youth in governance program. It's been going for well over 15 years, I'd say, by now. Probably close. Yeah, around there. So OK, go ahead, Ron. Why don't you just introduce yourself to Colin. Yeah, my name is Ron. Who do you represent on the board? I'm on the AAA board. I'm relatively new. I've been on it for about a year and a half.

And that's about it.

Okay, Ben.

Hi, I'm Ben Lyman. I'm a transportation planner with the Greater Madison Metropolitan Planning Organization. I hope the background behind me is facing the right direction. It also likes to switch. Great. And I represent the MPO on the Specialized Transportation Commission. I administer the Section 5310 funding program, enhanced mobility for seniors and seniors. for seniors and people with disabilities. I'll mention that again later on in my section of the agenda. And I've been doing non-emergency specialized transportation work. Well, I started back in the early 2000s, took a break sort of in the middle, but it's something I've been doing for... I was realizing as I was putting together the packet for applications this year, I realized that I've been doing it for a very long time. Pleased to meet you.

Hi Jenny.

My name is Jenny Hardesty. I am the General Manager at Transit Solutions. We are a paratransit provider in Dane County, contracting with Dane County Human Services and the City of Madison to provide transportation.

Bill? I'm Bill Carter. I'm with Union Cab of Madison Cooperative. We're a taxi provider in the City of Madison.

Who do you represent? Are you just a provider position? Is that what it is?

Yes, it is.

Same again. Adam, go ahead. Flip your camera off for a second. It's all right if it doesn't work. Sometimes it hurts the band.

Hi. I represent myself. I'm a social worker. I work at Killarian, you can at their group homes. I also rely on Paratransit. I think Paratransit is a wonderful service. So I rely on it too.

And we know each other too already. So good to see you again, Adam.

I'm Nathaniel Brown on the transportation coordinator. Thank you, Alan. Nice to meet you. I supervise the Transportation Call Center and the programs this committee oversees.

Okay. I'm Jana Moll. I am the Corp 3 for the ADRC. I do these lovely meetings, help out with those, and help Nathaniel with transportation bus passes.

Can you give a little overview on what we do here? What the committee does for

Yeah, so through the transportation call center, the biggest day-to-day thing for me and the other full-time and half-time person that work in the transportation call center is answering the phone and talking to people. And we help them out figuring out what the transportations are that are available for, what they qualify for. what they don't qualify for, what their options are. And then we also directly book some rides to medical appointments for people that are either 60 or older or have a disability, don't have Medicaid. So that takes up a lot of the day-to-day. We also help out with bus passes for employment purposes for people. So someone looking for work or just starting a new job, to help them get back and forth until they get a paycheck. And then Jenny does a ton of work for us, providing buses for each of the senior focal points in Dane County to get people to to the focal points for lunch and other activities they've got going on there, and also shopping trips to go along with that. In between there, there's another provider that handles the western part of Dane County caravan service. The rides, we're booking for the medical appointments directly. We're using Bill's Post and Union Cab, Madison Taxi, variety of other wheelchair van providers. We've also got contracts with RSVP of Dane County to provide volunteer driver service. We help fund YWCA's job ride program. We help fund the work and wheels car loan program. You don't like some other small one, but that's most of what we do.

And the two big things that we do here are grants that fund pretty much everything here. So go ahead, you can go over those.

Yeah, so the majority of the transportation funding is grant funding. We apply for two grants every year. In November, December, we applied to the state of Wisconsin for, it's called 8521. It's specialized transportation for older adults and people with disabilities. We get over a million dollars from the state. The county has to provide a 20% match. And we use that to fund the programs. And then we use part of that as match for the 5310 grant program that Ben administers. And we apply to that to get funding for the staff and the transportation call center funds, the 1.5 FT mobility program specialists that handle the majority of the calls. And then we also get funding through that for what's called the Bus Buddy Program that RSVP also runs. And that's a program that teaches people how to use the Madison Metro buses. So they've got volunteers that will actually like meet you, get you to the bus stop, go through getting on the bus, how to use your pass and all of that.

And 5310 is a federal grant program. So we've got the 85, We'll be doing that soon. Colin, are you on ENR?

Not this time. I was last term.

What are you on now?

My standing committee is Public Works and Transportation.

OK. So that's everybody's background with the basics, what we do here. And something that the board has approved, our next item is ethics training that is going on throughout the county area, all the committees and commissions. And I guess there is now a, I have not seen this yet, but there's a, as you can see the link on YouTube that I assume that the corporation council has prepared for us. So sit back and enjoy.

Chair Veldren.

Yeah, go ahead. Have you seen this yet?

Yes, I believe we both saw it. This is a recording of Carlos's presentation to the full county board. And I'll just say, if it's helpful, that in a couple of the other commissions and boards that I'm on, it's been moved that the link be provided to board members and that board members report back to staff when they've watched it. I've gotten confirmation from... county board staff that they've discuss with court counsel that that would be an appropriate way to handle it if that's how the committee would like to do so. So I'll just leave it. I'll just put that out there. It will require a motion.

I had not heard that. This is the first time I've seen this on committee. We've not done this on PP. Well, we actually had Carlos live. So we did it as part of our regular meeting last month. so if that is acceptable to everyone would everybody have a access to that on youtube the link is right on the um on the uh agenda and is that a live link i just don't have them yeah i think it i think it should be in jannica jannica yeah i was going to say if everybody wants to send that if we can send that go ahead

I would just move that we have members watch that at their own relatively prompt leisure and report back to staff when we have done so. That sounds okay.

We have a motion on discussion on that. I just want to say, when's the next week to report? lie yeah so if we could make sure we all respond to that and back before the next meeting in july we could yeah if you could just send that email and confirm and uh supervisor dylan we also see that by that um she's probably seen it already too so i appreciate that so the motion uh any other discussion if not all those in favor say aye aye aye say no no Hi. Not being able to watch it? I'm going to be gone the whole time. I'm going to be gone most of next month.

When you can watch it, just watch it. Is that okay?

If that's the reason you're objecting, that's fine. It probably doesn't affect you too much, just it's about if you have any kind of business against the county, whether it be a conflict of interest or The same thing we had when we had to go through the manuals that they updated early in the spring. It seems to me I talked about that. I'm not sure if we have that. Did you get that?

You didn't get that here. We got it. It came online. I was told that I had to take it.

Maybe that was because you were a member of the committee. I went to everybody. A lot of people were upset with it. Oh, OK. I did not know anything about it. Maybe that came out of the county executive's office. Probably. We can find out. OK. Like I said, we're separate, but we're separate, so maybe we don't get that. Anyway, okay, that's interesting. All right, moving on. Oh, where is this? Okay, action items. Selection of chairperson and vice chair. First, I do this every term. My supervisors have just been elected, and that just happened in April, as everyone knows. So we will entertain a motion for chair.

I'd like to nominate Chair Velja. I nominate.

What did you say, Adam?

I nominate Bill Carter.

Okay, we have a nomination for Matt Eldred and then we have a nomination for Bill Carter. Are there any other nominations? Are there any other nominations? Are there any nominations? Close the nominations. Do we have, Is there any objection to, and I think when I've done these committees, I've done a while, just a voice vote that's acceptable to everyone.

Go ahead, Ben. I'm just wondering if the two nominees would accept the nominations or if they would decline them.

And I don't know them. I don't know either one of them. That's me. Okay, well, then I know you. Oh, gotcha. I have to be on the committee to be the chair. Bill, have you accepted the nomination? Sure. Okay. We have nominations for chair for Bill Carter and myself. I guess we'll do this by... Probably shouldn't run it. Jen, you want to just ask for Bill and then myself, I guess? Who's in favor of one or the other?

OK. All those in favor of the nomination of Chair Veldren, say aye. Aye.

Aye. Aye. That was what? Three?

Was it three? OK. All those in favor of Bill Carter as chairperson?

Aye.

Okay, one. Okay, one. Okay, so Chairperson Valdren.

One for me. I tried to get the number right, that's all. Well, in any event, Bill, I just want to know who you voted for. Just so we know, are you abstained? I don't care.

No, I would abstain. Okay. I just want to get the number right. That's all. Okay. Yep.

Okay. So the final vote is, go ahead, Jen. You were at three. Okay. Three, one, and one abstention. Okay.

Oh, and four abstentions.

One, two, three, four, actually five. Five. Five, one, and one abstention, right? There you go. Okay. Are you good? Five, one, and one. Okay. Moving on to nominations for vice chair. I will nominate Jan Hardesty. Jan's done a great job. It should be fine doing it if I can. Are there any other nominations? Are there any other nominations? Are there any other nominations? And I declare other nominations closed.

Yeah, I nominate Bill Lyman.

Ben, will you accept the vice chair's nomination? um sure okay i will determine that adam nominated uh on time okay so now we have ben um and jenny uh our vice chairs basically what you do is you know when i'm not here because you have to physically be here actually you don't but somebody has to be here I was wrong. We had a long discussion on that, actually, at the county board, our first meeting. But somebody's got to be in the room. So that's always important to know to be the vice chair. Not my rooms. I guess it's my rooms. Okay. So vote for Jenny. All in favor of Jenny as vice chair, say hi.

Hi.

Hi. Hi. 3.

Aye.

4 from Colin. Okay. All is in favor of Ben for Vice Chair.

Say aye. Aye. Ben, did you vote or not?

No.

Okay. I just want to get the number right.

That's all. Yep, I got it. It was 5-1 and Okay, Jenny is the vice chair. Go ahead. I'll just throw in there that if in any event, neither of you are able to make it, I do live not too far away. And so if you need somebody, if you need another person to be there, both of you being absent, let me know and I can make it happen most days.

We used to, the boards used to have more in their committee, some secretaries, and it was just for that purpose, and no other purpose was it just to run the meeting. But I don't think we've been doing that, at least not across the board. So, okay, with that done. Vice-Chair?

Yeah.

I think we should use secretary. Okay, reports to commission. Updates on the transportation call center. TAB, Mark McIntyre, lab can you hear better now are we just speaking louder enough.

TAB, Mark McIntyre, I just have closed captions on so I can read mostly what you say.

TAB, Mark McIntyre, Good. TAB, Mark McIntyre, Last week was the the meeting that the the triple a board and your see board had worked on with the legislators that represent Dane county so. TAB, Mark McIntyre, There were. four of our state legislators that attended, maybe five, four or five of them that attended. It was over at the Job Center. There were speakers on four topics. Transportation was one of them. The speaker for transportation was one of the RSVP drivers, volunteer drivers, and they spoke about how how they enjoyed being a volunteer and also how their passengers appreciated it. And then there were speakers on Meals on Wheels, Falls Prevention, and the services that the ADRC provides. And they all told very impactful stories and it was a good day. Ron was, Ron was there. I think you'd agree. So that was last week. I think the AAA and ADRC boards did that this year because there wasn't the usual aging advocacy day at the Capitol in May. And so around the states, they tried to organize in district meetings with legislators. I believe they're planning to do the day at the Capitol again next year. So I don't know if we'll be having another local in district meeting or not, but if they added transportation is sort of halfway through their planning. So I think if they're going to include transportation as an issue in future years that they would, they'll let us know a little sooner. Because we didn't have a lot of notice by the time the email went out to committee members. Other than that, I did the very initial steps for the 5310 application and waiting waiting for training on how to use the new system and we'll see how that goes when Ben shows us how to do it. And yeah, hoping to have that ready to go to present on July 15th for the committee. Otherwise in the transportation call center, things are sort of going along as normal, nothing big happening right now.

Maybe you can just give a little background on that in the call center. But which legislators were at the... Put you on the spot.

McCarvel.

I don't know if she was on this. I don't think she was on this. Sorry, I don't want to mumble. Doors or...

As a former County Board Supervisor.

I don't know the last name.

Senator. No, there were all representatives that were there. I'm trying to remember my representative's name from out in Marshall and into Jefferson County, which I'm blanking on. the moment.

And then one more I can't think of. Yeah, I think. All right. It was a county executive there.

Yeah, the county executive gave a welcome as did human services director, John Schroeder, both welcomed. Yeah.

Okay.

And then, so, and then call center, which just, you know, just, you, sorry, you explain it to Colin and then do statistics, what, every, we just did them last month.

Yeah. Yeah. We generally, generally do a, Do every year, but you know through the transportation call Center we. We handle about. 12,000 calls and emails a year and some of those might just be a one off call someone calling and we we talked to him about transportation options and. You know they they go on their way and. Do whatever they do some of them. And with that first call, we're booking them a ride, setting them up, and we book rides ongoing for them. And other things are, you know, bus passes too. We get calls for bus passes. People ask about it. Some of them result in them sending an application. We process it and go through it with them and give them a pass if they're eligible. But the first, It keeps our staff busy and yeah.

Do you think the one and a half people, this is sort of a budget question as well. Are you still being able to cover with one and a half? Call times aren't too long.

Yeah. One and a half people covers our workload well. We will have people end up on voicemail, but we're returning calls the same day, usually within an hour because if one person gets off, they can get the voicemail and call them. More than one and a half would be overkill because people decide to call at the same time. If six people call at the same time, we definitely don't need six people because if they all call, then it's going to be an hour before the next person calls.

It's not a 911. Or even ADRC. How many people handle ADRC calls? It's like a group, right?

They've got 30-some staff, and I think they've got, like, eight or 10 on phones every day, like just answering calls. But they answer, I mean, they get a lot more. Oh, sure. Yeah.

Okay. Just trying to keep coming up. Let's see if I can appreciate a little background and a little feeling for that.

Thank you.

If you have any questions on it.

I guess just one. So if someone calls the ADRC, because I think more people are probably familiar with the ADRC and they have a transportation issue, they get transferred pretty easily over to the other line or is it just handled by that call taker?

Depending on what it is, ADRC staff might answer some questions. Like if it's a person that's, you know, just looking for like, options for wheelchair accessible transportation that they want to pay for themselves or something like that. They've got like a list of providers that they can just give them. But if it gets too much, if it gets anything beyond just like the real basic stuff, they'll just transfer them over to us. I mean, they generally do a warm transfer and set it up. if they're working on someone with, on some other issue, they might, they might work on them, that issue with them and say, I will contact the transportation call center and get them in contact with you. So that they don't transfer. Yeah. If their primary issue is something else, they also, there's a little bit of transportation on the, they'll just email us and say, here's what we're going for, and then see if we want to call together or if they...

But if somebody would generally call, it's a good point, the wrong number, will they just transfer you? And they have just a direct...

I want to schedule a ride or... Yeah, they can direct transfer to us. We're on the same county phone system, so it's a direct transfer. Yeah, and we're right in the ADRC building.

They're in here too. Yeah. Does that happen often?

Do you get, would you say? We get a lot more other calls than coming from the ADRC, but they, yeah, we work well together. They connect people to us when they call there, as do other places in human services too.

Okay, moving on then.

reports to commission oh yep now we're up to the greater update on the greater mpo okay ben um yeah not a lot to say um except that um as nathaniel mentioned the section 5310 application is live in our new e-tip platform um it used to be a very complicated scroll down, there are five pages in this tab, scroll right, there are three pages in this tab, Excel workbook. And it wasn't really very friendly for applicants or for us to evaluate. We went to a new platform called Eco Interactive, and that's where our transportation improvement program is going to be living starting this fall. And so we're doing our project solicitation through there as well. Nathaniel, it will not bite. It's pretty straightforward. You have the instructions. I believe in you. If you follow those step-by-step instructions that I sent you, you can complete the application and not worry about the training. But I'm offering the training because people like it. It's nice to see people walk through it once. But you can dive in, and if you have questions, let me know. I guess the one update on that is the last couple of years, we actually, well, I guess it was just last year, we didn't actually have applications for all of the funding we had available. The only projects that we received applications for were the county's call center that Nathaniel was just talking about, Metro Paratransit's Paratransit eligibility position, and some operating support for New Bridge Madison for their driver program. This year, I anticipate, I've heard from a lot of organizations. I'm a little worried. We are not going to be able to fund everything. I can guarantee that. I think Madison Area Rehabilitation Centers has said they're going to be applying for at least, I think they're applying for two vehicle purchases this We've also heard from the Madison Senior Center, Colonial Club in Sun Prairie, Vera Court. and a few others that I believe are all going to be vehicle purchases. And then there'll be the County Call Center and Metro Paratransit Eligibility as sort of our staples. So it'll be a hard process and we'll have to say no to some folks because we do have limited funding. But that said, your program, the County Call Center always scores very, very well because it does provide a huge number of contacts to a wide variety of people and get them into the door and connected to other resources. So we do recognize that's a really important program. I'm not too worried about vehicle purchases somehow showing such amazing efficiency that your productivity is negated in the scoring. I think that you're going to be just fine, but it is going to be a tough year with a lot of applications.

So is there a limit then on the vehicle purchase side of just the amount of funding available?

Is it one pot, Ben? Yeah, it's a formula funding program. So it's based on the population of the Madison urban area. And I guess, you know, with that in mind, once again, you know, I would encourage the county to also apply for funding through the statewide Section 5310 program to help pay for rural programs and rural rides. That is a separate pot of money that is hardly ever fully utilized at the state level. And certainly, you know, any program, I guess like the RSG program, you know, that's by definition in the rural areas. So, you know, funding could be available to support that program through the statewide Section 5310 program, but we can't fund it with urban dollars. So that's just something else, you know, you can, there is a larger pot of money out there available to you that I can't tap. Is that part of the 5310 application? It's still the Section 5310 program, but in small urban areas like Stoughton and in rural areas like the rest of the county, those dollars are all administered through the Wisconsin Department of Transportation, not through us. We only get the urban dollars.

Ben, I checked with Wisconsin DOT about that a year or two ago, and they They told me that we cannot apply for the statewide pool. They said we need to apply just for the pool for Madison.

All right. Well, I'm going to need to go to the mat on that. Do you remember who it was you talked to at Wistot?

Ian Ritz and Lori Jacobson.

Okay, yeah. Well, I'll just have a friendly argument with Ian and Lori about that, because I disagree. That is not the way the federal law is written. That's not the way the state is supposed to be apportioning funds. They are getting dollars for those people who live in small communities and rural areas that they are supposed to be spreading out and spending on rural areas. And if they've just said, well, whatever... Dane County has an urban area in the center so that's all the dollars you get that's not that's not the way formula funding works that's not legal um I might just have a have a pleasant friendly argument with them about that so on that then Ben can those communities apply directly or are they are they putting in their own applications anyway

Like a Stoughton or a village.

Yeah, they'd apply through Wisconsin DOT directly, not through me.

But is that for the 8525 or is that the 5310 as well?

8521 is, I believe, urban. 8520 is rural. So there's a separate state funding program for that as well.

I'm just trying to figure out if there's another way to get around if we have to, to help all those rural communities. Certainly, Superman.

Yeah, if they come to me, I send them to the Wisconsin DOT portal for the program. They're not eligible for, you know, if Oregon wanted to start up a shared ride taxi program like Stoughton has, and they wanted to obtain funding for those vehicles, I would say you're not eligible for our funding. You're not in our urban area. And I can go back to emails from Ian Ritz, where he's explaining to folks in Stoughton that in the future they are going to be applying directly to Wisconsin DOT, not to the MPO. But they're continuing to do reporting on vehicles that we awarded to Metro, who's the direct recipient in the urban area. So they're still reporting on old vehicles to Metro, but any new applications have to go through Wisconsin DOT. They're no longer eligible to apply through us.

Maybe it was more so that they didn't think that we could apply to both or something like that, Ben.

Yeah, and that's where I think, you know, if you say, well, 20% of our program is in the rural areas and 80% is in the urban areas, That gets messy and nobody really wants to deal with that and then like well justify those numbers and that's why we've just said that's fine we'll just find the call Center. But if there are other programs like rsg that are exclusively in rural areas or the the vehicle loans that are exclusively in areas that don't have transit service. Those dollars should be coming from the statewide dollars and the small urban dollars, not from Madison's dollars.

Yeah, and they are. Like, those are the 5310 funding isn't going for those. I mean, other than generally staff talking about them.

Right. No, as I said, just if there were programs that you could split off and identify this program serves a rural area, those should be eligible for funding through statewide 5310. And I'll just have to argue with Ian about it. But ultimately, he's in charge of Wistot Transit. So, you know, if he says no, what am I going to do? Like, gnaw on his legs.

We've got some representatives up at the state who might be able to with some if i mean i i hate to leave money on the table that could be helpful to folks especially in these times and days i mean this is getting unused decided like we're expanding the pot okay um and that's and we're so we're so they'd have to move that would have to get moved on and in the next few weeks anyway right because that's june july or is that just Hal Hallstein, it's doing August oh okay um and then on that note, you had said that I think last meeting that there's a heart. Hal Hallstein, That the new the new program the platform doesn't translate well to reviewing for our purposes.

Um, no, I mean, I think that that it'll ultimately just be a screen share. Um, I mean, if you have time, I can go me just pop up a window and I can share it quickly here. I may not have my since I'm on my

Oh, yeah.

I may not have my password and such saved on this computer because it's my personal computer and not.

No, that's okay. But so as long as we can review it. Yeah, it'll just be a screen share.

It won't be a PDF that can be shared. It's an interactive platform. Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, I don't have the links to be able to pull it up easily right now.

So then basically, the thing is putting the R numbers in, and then it gets just pushed out.

Is that correct? Yeah. Well, I mean, it's a cloud-based thing. So I can look at it. And actually, you will be able to essentially print the entire thing to a report. So that, I guess, would be another way that you could prepare to provide it to everybody without having to do sort of a live demo. Hadn't really thought about that before. It's pretty, it has some pretty robust reporting capabilities that I haven't used much yet because you have to have data in it in order to run a report. So since we're in our first cycle right now, there's not, you know, there's not a lot there to look at other than the three projects that were imported from last year, the county, city, and New Bridge projects.

Did you, is there somebody you can sort of like discuss it with a little bit, the human services IT people or somebody. Just saying it's important that we are able to see the numbers and stuff.

I'll work with Ben in our IT department to figure out a way that we

I think it'll be, like I said, I haven't really messed with the reports yet because the system's new and there's not a lot in it to report on. But it does occur to me that there is a way to run a report to just see all the details of one application. And then, you know, that can be saved to a PDF and shared with the board.

Great. Appreciate that. So we can do that next month. Okay. Without objection, I just wanted to bring, I think it's I can't tell if there's another category because I don't see a letter missing where this could have been in a better spot under such other business. Yeah. Just because that's usually like something that is not on the agenda. So I'm just going to bring back the last item that's on the agenda right before the adjournment, the paratransit scheduling issues. We saw this story, actually, my wife pulled it up and said, did you see this? And it was about some folks who was It seemed like it was a city issue, not a county issue, but it was about folks not getting their rides in a timely manner and missing appointments. And then could you expand a little more on it?

I watched it through the transportation call center. We haven't heard much, but then again, we're not necessarily the people we're not the place that people would complain to necessarily. Um, but we do talk to people that use both, both the county services and the city services. Um, I, I asked in our, our unit meeting, if, if we were, you know, if others were hearing anything that just was missing me on the phone, um, and we could only, you know, between the three of us, we came up with Um, you know, someone had said they'd been having trouble with their return rides being, being late. Um, but you know, it was one person out of, you know, the ones that we talked to, but, you know, we're not generally talking to a person about how their paratransit rides are going either. So, um, I, I was talking to someone from the Madison school district at the legislative meeting and He was talking about how it was an issue for some of the students that use paratransit. And that was actually, that was the first I heard about it. So yeah, I'm not sure what to say other than We've heard other people talking about it, but they haven't been.

And I just wanted to make sure that we were sort of present of it, came up, they were talking about schedulings and people not being, I'll get to that in a second, Ben, not being able to connect with the, and the route that Metro, or not Metro, that, yeah, Metro was using wasn't really lining up correctly on a time basis. Go ahead, Ben.

You're muted. Yep. Sorry. I went and lowered my hand rather than unmuting. Mike Dentise, the customer service manager, is intending to start attending these meetings. He had something come up and was not able to attend tonight. But I know that when I first started on the STC years ago, there was a representative of Metro Paratransit who attended nearly every meeting. And she retired, and I don't think anybody from Metro Paratransit has attended any of these meetings since then, except maybe Brian, you know, who came to last month's meeting to give a short presentation. Mike is going to be taking that on as sort of part of his customer service role. He's also involved in the Section 5310 application on their end. And so he sends his apologies for not being able to join tonight, but does intend to be here in the future. And so any questions you have, I'm sure he'd be happy to address at that time. That's right, yeah.

And since I've been here forever and almost on this committee just as long, yeah, it was a regular spot. And I think it was just before a lot of things changed, I don't know, via state, there was a little more, sort of interplay, if you will, between the city and the county with certain programs. And especially with the bus passes, there was a lot of exchange of very interesting ways to pay for it, especially when it was the tickets and things. But this goes back to people from here, so.

Yeah, and when Nancy's son retired, Metro didn't, they just didn't fill a paratransit supervisor's spots and... I talked, they did last year, finally decided they needed a paratransit supervisor. And I talked to Laura about attending and I believe she's been on a few meetings as an attendee, like in the background where we couldn't see her. But I don't see her having signed up tonight.

Go ahead.

Yes.

It would be nice if other paratransit and quality transit, it would be nice if they could attend.

Is that a vendor quality?

Is that one of the providers, rather? Yeah, that's one of the providers.

But we don't contract. The cabbie doesn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. possibly we could bring them in for like one meeting and they can explain since they're not, since we don't fund them directly. But we can certainly do that along with the city, especially as the city's... Might touch the county that way.

I'm not sure if it's good, but just in case.

We could do that too. Anything else? Okay. Thank you. Okay. Just want to make sure we got everything. All right. We are on to F. Meeting dates.

So we're going to meet. Nope. Nope. All right. No other things.

Oh, good. Yes, Adam.

What? Sorry, it's kind of difficult to hear.

I'm sorry. Sorry.

No, I said, did you have something else to say? Or maybe it was just you were turning your mic off.

No, I have nothing.

Okay, thanks. Okay, so we'll move on. Future meeting date. The next meeting is July 15th. Was that a week earlier? A week earlier than normal so that I can get through that application before I'm on vacation the following week.

Hopefully that's not a conflict for anybody. Hopefully we'll have enough for... We did have, unfortunately, The executive, well, I can just do it under such of a business a second. Okay, 715 and then public comment, just so there's nobody else online. Then such of a business, I was gonna say, Supervisor Marin was reappointed and she had a conflict at the time last term. So she was then taken off the committee. So we're still looking for an Eastern supervisor. I think there's a couple. possibly that we can ask. So hopefully we can fill that spot. That so we can get our full account of everyone on the board. Okay, with that, move on to adjournment motion. No, we have a motion without objection. Thanks, everybody.