Bicycle Pedestrian Commission - Regular Meeting

Oh, it looks like the video wasn't on. Is it okay if we do roll call over time? Sure. All right. Commissioner Daunty?

Present.

Commissioner Garb?

Present.

Commissioner Sheeran? Vice Chair Kumar?

Present.

Chairman Mahanty?

Present.

For the record, Commissioner Sheeran is absent. We don't have any oral patients. We don't have any speakers.

OK. So we go to 12 minutes? Yes. I propose .

Last meeting, right?

Yes.

30 seconds.

Okay. We'll take it to a roll call vote. Commissioner Daunty?

Approved.

Commissioner Garg? Approved. Vice Chair Kumar? Approved. Approve. Chair Malhanti?

Approve.

The motion carries. Commissioner Sheeran, absent.

The robotic exploration discussion and consideration.

Mm-hmm.

What are we going to do on this?

This is just an exploration of community to find out how robotics can help. It can. Yeah.

Are we on number two?

Yeah.

We're on number two.

Definitely. So we look at the robotics manufacturers. We also look at what our city needs, and we also look at what the other cities are doing. Correct?

Yeah, we need to look at the use cases where they can help us, right?

Yeah, basically three areas. Where do we need, what other cities are doing, and maybe what robotics companies are capable of doing.

What robotics companies can do for us? We don't have to limit to what other cities are doing.

Okay.

Lots of companies. There are lots of companies doing robotics. Yeah. Yeah.

If you go to San Jose conference, you'll have lots of robots. NVIDIA conference.

Let's come back to the topic.

There were like 20. Is there a segment in the robotics that are oriented for the government in the city?

Not government. I think we need to identify what other areas can be helpful. Not necessarily the government. and see what other cities are doing, learn from them quickly.

And also, so mostly it is like park and recreation kind of stuff, correct?

I also have seen some in the security area as well. Physical security. Physical reports. Robocop. That is not one. But I've seen some robots in the airport that are doing... San Francisco banned RoboCops, correct?

We had RoboCops in San Francisco. In the airport in... I don't know where, but there was a news like the band.

Yeah, I've seen some robot security robot, security robots in the airport in the past, and in the malls. Malls, hospitals. Yeah.

Robots. Going around, oh, security, security. And that video can have a problem.

Some of the things may already be in use. For example, I see for cleaning, it happens all the time.

In Ontario, yeah.

You know that San Francisco has got a company now, many company, robot companies. So robot will come to your home and clean your home.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, it's there in San Francisco now. Robots are more advanced. I've seen... $30 an hour. $30 an hour. One of my friends, like, cleaning... My wife wanted...

But they can only do certain things, right? They can't clean everything.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's still many...

Yes.

But they're saying eventually we'll have... That eventually is not long.

Yeah.

Yeah. I've seen, like, one of my friends says that robots are big...

station right it has it can go and vacuum all the places and other clothes and if you want to do like boil down this hardwood for example in the hallway here this whole cleaning can be done yeah yeah so san francisco in our office and all the cafeteria floor and everything

It's all robots. The robot means a person, robot person?

Or is it not a person? Not a person.

iRobot kind of thing. Same like Roomba.

Yeah. It's much industrial.

But this one, for this subcommittee, we are talking about humanoid robots, or we are talking about any? Okay, any robot is more effective. Because this one, what I'm talking about, like in San Francisco, there are videos where humanoid robots will come in remote taxi, come to your home, clean the room and go back.

We need to think from the city's point of view. What will benefit cities? What are the use cases for this?

Because it can go now, it can bring wet clothes. Everything.

It's not just dry, it's wet, you name it. And it will be shining.

It will keep shining all the time.

Anyway, I think the subject is do we need to appoint a subcommittee member, alternate, and define the purpose and scope. The purpose is where we can use. No, but just to add to that, I just thought of

You know, we can have robots in different streets because there is a lot of car break-ins and stuff, right? So... Somebody needs to keep the robot itself.

That is what he's talking about.

They have robotics that actually go along the sidewalk and detect where there's uplift or curb issues, you know, as far as ADA compliance. Yeah. So basically can do an inspection for you.

Okay.

without having a survey.

But it has to be aggressive, Robert. They can't go near it, so they can't see it.

Okay, coming back to the topic, I can lead it, but who can? Anybody else?

You need three people, I think. One alternate and one...

So two... Subcommittee cannot be more than two people. Oh, it has to be two people.

Only two people?

Yeah.

Only for people, and then the alternate, I think. That's what the subject is.

Like, for example, mainly this year, I'm not doing much. He's doing cyber security. I'm just like, support. So in robotics, I can lead, but if somebody can support. All right, I can support. Okay. Is it okay? Yeah, yeah.

And there's no one else. So I just. I can be an alternate.

I can be a lot of diversity.

I can be an alternate. I think that maybe I'll do something next year. This year, I think I've got my hands full. Yeah.

Cybersecurity is completely

Well, two years experience now. Last year it was very new. We also didn't know what to do. It's a lot more streamlined.

We don't need to vote on that. That's just a decision they can make, right?

For this, we actually need two motions. We need a motion to define the scope, and then we need a motion for we're going to add to the subcommittee. Before we do that, can we go to public comment chair?

Yeah.

Looks like we don't have, we have no speakers.

So we have to discuss the scope now?

I mean, you need to write a statement, right?

Intent.

Okay.

So the intent of the subcommittee is, okay, we'll propose the motion later on. Let's have a discussion. The first is look at the capabilities, what robotics companies are providing today for public sector, you know, Second is look at the, somebody talked about, look at the neighborhood city. Don't limit it to a city. I'll also look at Chinese cities.

Any city that is advanced in robotics.

Yeah, I know that Shanghai has launched some of them. If Shanghai Municipal Corporation has launched some robotics there, there has been big news. There has been big news. So we can look at what city is doing. And then look at the city use cases, like you're talking about Robocop, you're talking about FARC and Linkreation. and then make a proposal, mix all three. Basically, what technology can do, what other cities are doing, and what our city needs.

Yeah, what our city needs. I think that is very important to know what our city needs.

I think first it should be investigation, right? And I think the output should be a report where we are presenting what technologies are available from robotics perspective for the city. And the second is if there's existing implementations by other cities in robotics area. And third, what do we propose to the city? Map it to our city needs.

Because what Sangha is doing, we may not need.

Also, budget is always a consideration. So what would we prioritize? I think budget should not be part of it.

Is it something that's truly going to work? You know, it's technology that's, I mean, for a city, we can't purchase something that's going to be, one, costly and not proven, right? Do we need to make sure it's going to be reliable?

Right. Correct. That is the reason the first two is also very important, whether robotics companies are capable or not, and whether other cities are using it or not.

And we should look at the results of what they're successfully doing.

I would propose let's not bring the budget in this. No, no. This is a study, but it comes in the second. Exactly. This is only the study. What are the possibilities? Yeah. Okay. So then I propose the scope. The scope is evaluate technology capabilities working with robotics manufacturing companies.

Can you repeat that? Evaluate technological capabilities.

Of the robotics manufacturing companies.

Okay.

Other robots.

Other robots.

What robots can do.

Can do. To make it simple. Second is research on how cities around the world are using robots. Correct? Correct. And third is study what our city needs.

Okay.

So I map all of them together, all three of them together and present the report. Make sense? Yep. Perfect. So I propose this motion.

We have a motion. Can I get a second? I can second. Okay. We'll take it to a roll call vote. Commissioner Conte?

Agree.

Commissioner Garth?

Yes. Agree.

Vice Chair Kumar?

Agree.

Chairman Conte? The motion carries with Commissioner Sheeran absent. Oh, I'm so sorry. We need a motion to determine who's going to be in the second one. Yeah.

Okay.

You want to go ahead and propose? I propose I do have to propose a membership for the subcommittee. Yes. I propose Vice Chair Kumar to leave the committee.

Okay.

Yes. Yes. Okay. We'll see. So we'll call the vote. Commissioner Daunty?

Yes. Commissioner Gard? Yes.

Vice Chair Kumar?

Yes.

Chair Malati?

Yes.

The motion carries with Commissioner sharing absent.

Do we also have to put the purpose? Did the subcommittee member scope?

Yes, we already did a motion on the scope.

That's all we need.

Okay, purpose and scope. Yeah.

Can we move to another topic?

Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Okay.

Can we act like purpose is explore safe and ethical use of

I think we need to modify that, right?

It's a safe one.

I think we have positive here at 1% off, correct?

We need to add safe and explore use of properties. Okay. Make sense? Explore use of robotics.

Okay. Chair, may we go to public comment?

Yes.

We have no speakers, Chair.

So we modify the work that I come to explore use of robotics.

Yeah. So take out the safe and ethical?

Yeah, yeah.

Okay. That's the only change?

Yeah.

Okay.

Are we talking, number two, we are talking about it. Are we talking about number three?

One.

One.

Agenda number three. Are we going to discuss number three right now?

Yeah.

Agenda item number three.

We are already talking about what item one. Yeah. Properties and AI put on city operations for maintenance, cleaning, public works. You can add safety, public safety.

What are we doing?

Public works and public safety. Safety. Safety.

Where are we adding that?

Oh, on the objective. Work item number one.

Okay.

On the objective.

Do you mind repeating that?

On the work item number one, project objective.

Yeah, robotics and AI could enhance city operations, particularly maintenance, cleaning, public safety, and public works.

So currently it already has public works. You would like to add public safety in it. In the first sentence.

And then did you get under for the project? They want to remove safe and ethical. Let's just explore use of robotics.

Because one can argue that all of it is unethical, because people can do that to us. Right? People can argue it's replacing human labor.

But it is not unethical. We do a lot of things.

Yeah, let's just call it.

Yeah. So eventually, we are not going to do anything unethical.

Eventually, we are not going to do anything. No, no, it's serious. Yeah, I'm saying it very soon. We'll have nothing to do soon. Right.

Don't do anything.

And Marty just said that all their undergraduate papers, tests, and examinations can be done here.

Well, they're allowed. No, no, no.

Everything can be done by AI. I mean, AI can pass this. Oh, okay. So if they do an open exam with your computer to use AI.

So New York banned their school up to middle school not to use AI.

Yeah, yeah.

8th grade. Up to 8th grade.

Yeah, otherwise they'll not learn anything. So are we discussing about item number three at this point? Have we moved on to three? No, we're at one.

Let's close one and two I think we can skip.

We have a presentation.

And we've already done some evaluation of three.

Is there anything else we need to... Yeah, I think we have many presentations, right? And what was the final report on what use cases we'll implement and what is planned for the future. Is there anything?

Is that a report from us or from you guys?

No, from a city perspective, what came out of it, you are saying, right? Yeah, one is city was already implementing AI, right? Yes.

You read some news from Microsoft. So can I make a suggestion? I was thinking like if Terry and Tim can present to us what we are doing and what we are doing.

For AI? Yeah.

And Terry, I know that I dropped the ball. Now my role has changed. I'm also leading AI, so I can have a formal discussion.

Well, let's talk about it more. We're doing quite a bit now. We've rolled it out to the whole city. So we're definitely much more familiar than we were when we had that conversation.

Yes, yes. They are implemented in Microsoft, right?

Yeah.

You guys are looking at, I saw that you guys are looking at the website and all. That is very good.

Yeah, the chatbot. Yeah, test that when you get a chance.

I haven't had a chance to look at it. So is it okay, Terry, if you guys can present what is happening? Yeah.

Yeah, we can.

And also, what are the plans for the future? We can have a discussion about that.

Yeah. I didn't hear that last part.

I didn't hear the last part. So for example, we already have a customer-facing chatbot. We are not a consulting company. We are not selling you anything. But we have got a very sophisticated chatbot. Our customer uses that. You know, it's a different, purpose is different, correct? Little bit is not popular, but yes.

Yeah. It is B2B enterprise customers. It's B2B customers. To find out about your products. Yeah.

Okay, so should we select a date for that?

Do you have a code?

Yeah, I have a sore throat and like a sinus. issue. All right. So we're September. The next meeting is November. Should we plan to do, do we have, we don't have any fixed schedule for November except for a recap of the cybersecurity because the cybersecurity is November.

We'll have a next regular meeting. November 4th. So that is fine.

Can you do it then? So I think the only thing we'll have is the recap of cybersecurity because it'll be the next meeting afterwards and then we could do the presentation.

Yeah. And then update from the robotics subcommittee.

Okay.

From the robotics. Okay.

So some things for the next meeting.

I'm sorry?

Three things, right? Yes. Okay. How about this one?

Okay. So then we'll close the number three after that, right?

Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Commissioner Talra. Over to you. We are on two.

We have the president. Yes.

Number three. Do we have to pass any motion on the work items?

Yeah. Okay.

So this year's event is on October 1st, 6 to 8 p.m.

Please block that time in your calendars.

And I expect all the commissioners to attend this year. Because last year we had only three people. I was there.

No, you were not. I was there. He came secretly. You were not in the front seat. We had a reserve sitting for you.

I think I was in second or third. I came in late. Okay.

So please present.

So the event will be inaugurated by Mayor Moore. And this is considered, again, a special meeting, right? So Vice Chair Kumar will kick off the meeting. We'll start the meeting. And then I'm the moderator for the for the event. And then we have Terry, Marilyn, everyone helping us out. And all the city staff, right? They're all helping us out with the event. Next slide, please. Stop me if you have any questions. So we have... Five panelists this year. This is one of the panelists, Don Hester. He is in Department of Homeland Security. He could not attend last year because of furlough. He's agreed to attend. He's agreed to participate. No, he'll be in person here. One of the requirement is for the panelists to be in person. We don't have any online panelists. And then the next panelist is Ramesh Gupta. He was there. He was one of the panelists last year. We are bringing him back. He is the CEO of a company called Identra.ai. And he has 30 plus experience in cybersecurity in different products. Next slide. Eli, he is head of cybersecurity engineering at Visa. He was there. He was one of the panelists last year. Yeah, he's my neighbor, actually. He lives next door to me. And yeah, he's very experienced in the cybersecurity.

Next slide.

Dr. Mei Wang is a CTO of IoT Security at Palo Alto Networks. I believe she was one of the panelists not last year, but the year before. And she's agreed to participate as a panelist this year as well. Next. We have... Sandeep Patel, he is responsible for high-tech prosecutions in the Santa Clara County. And I'm sure he's going to bring us a lot of information and knowledge on high-tech crimes. Real cases. Real cases, real-life cases, which are applicable to a lot of the audience should be able to learn from that. This is for corporate crimes, right? No, all cyber crimes. The whole purpose of this event is to address cyber crimes against a resident for a normal person.

He will bring from the prosecutor perspective some of the real examples.

So, these are the five panelists. Yeah, this is a pretty good panel. Merlin was very helpful in getting the district attorney. She contacted the district attorney's office as well as Maeve. She brought her in as well.

Also Don Hesler.

Don Hesler. I think that's Tommy. Tommy's connection.

Don Hesler is there. Because a lot of people on the semiconductor side are replacing them every six months. So this we are going into the meeting event schedule itself. So I'll introduce the panelists and

I'll be moderating the event, so I'll be sort of talking to the panelists and asking them the questions. We have a set of questions right now. Right now, everything is skewed towards AI, all the questions. And we have close to 17 questions. I mean, we had prioritized 12 last year. Those are still very relevant. But there have been new attacks using AI. And a lot of attacks have been enhanced by AI. So we wanted to cover that. So find a mix. Because we want to include some new questions also. First of all. So the plan is we are having a meeting with, anyway, before we, next week we plan to have a meeting with the panelists and finalize the questions. And also finalize who will be responding to which question, which panelists will be involved with which questions. That way we can have an orderly meeting and we can move quickly in a streamlined way. And then the meeting schedule itself, we have 6-10 will be starting and Vice Chair Kumar will be introducing, calling the meeting to order, introducing their More will be inaugurating the event. And some of the gifts of the invite. Yeah, we'll come to that. Yeah, it's covered here. Okay. We'll be introducing the panelists, and then we'll have a panel discussion for one hour. And then, next slide, please. We have Sumeda Kumar. She's one of the team commissioners. She'll be doing a quiz, audience quiz. We have already developed the quiz. It's a quiz of five questions.

Make sure people are listening.

She's been involved. And right now we have the questions. We have an application online SaaS software called Minty. These questions will be uploaded into Minty. Sumedha has volunteered to do that. But we need to remind her.

I think three of us should meet. Three of us should meet one week before.

Yeah, it's already, she, they had a call with Sumedha, Merlin and I.

Okay, good.

And Sumedha has already agreed to do that. Okay, good. And basically, we'll have a QR code for these questions. Audience can just point to the QR code, get to the questions and they can answer. and we can publish the live reserves on the screen. That's the intent of this plan. After the quiz, five questions, we want to get done in 10 minutes or less. Audience asks the questions. Audience answers the questions. On their cell phone. On their cell phone.

We want to see what they've learned from the event. And it will be live like 5, 10, it's moving, moving. There is no right or wrong answer. It's like opinion. It's a right or wrong answer. It should be a right or wrong answer. It should be a right or wrong answer. The question, I mean, I don't know what these men's award

Oh, for actually getting the right answer?

Because half of the people might get the right answer.

Yeah, let's see if we have some giveaways, essentially.

On what basis do you give the award, right? For the fastest person who's answering the question, or can we track that? I don't know if that's possible.

That doesn't, yeah, because these apps you see, right, you have them open it up in an app and then answer. And then it shows up on the screen how many people are answering right or wrong. And then you just say, oh, this was the wrong one.

So whoever gets it, whoever gets the most questions right gets the award then.

I think we're not going to know. You're not going to know. It's not going to say.

It's going to be anonymous.

It's going to be anonymous. Yeah, we don't need to do an award job.

If you want to give an award, what we can do is just a proposal. What we can do is because audience will ask question to the panelist and panelist will decide one award for the best question. You know, only one award. Best question award. And panelist. Correct the reverse. So we are already having an award for our panelist. So we have one more gift.

One more, though? And which panelist gets to decide?

No, all of them together will decide.

Actually, it's period time. If 20 questions are coming in,

How would you decide 20 or 25? And we don't even know the names of the people. Yeah. So it would be... Okay, leave it.

Yeah, yeah. It's too complicated.

It's too complicated. There's not enough time in your format. It's a good idea?

Yeah, yeah.

It's too complicated. Oh, one thing we could have done potentially is have a raffle at the end. Because if you mention the raffle in the flyer, You might have more than we could show you.

In my all hands, my team all hands, I do that best question.

No, no, not raffle, best question award.

How many questions do you get? Like, there is 15 minutes, just like all hands is 45 minutes, 30 minutes I speak and 15 minutes is open. And the best question award gets $100. Good.

That's something we can think about in the next year's event is have a raffle at the end of the, they have to wait till the end to get to the raffle drawing. Can you do that?

It's not late.

Yeah, we can do a raffle.

So that's more, yeah. If the participation is happening because of winning the raffle. Something is wrong. People should be interested in learning about cybersecurity.

That's right. It's very scary to even click on the link. If you put raffle, you won't have a space.

But we have to get the word out there.

Yeah, so that's a good point. So we planned the event at 8 o'clock. And basically, we ended like any other meeting, right?

Vice Chair Kumar. I will end the panel.

We would like Mayor Moore to present tokens of appreciation to the panelists and the moderator. I guess Vice Chair Kumar will thank the members and end the meeting. and we'll end the broadcast at that time, but we'll be having a lot of people hanging around at the end asking questions like last time. So many of the panelists stayed back and answered questions after that as well. So, next slide, please. Unless there's any questions. Subcommittee next items, basically, Social media campaign. We have different WhatsApp groups. We have the flyer finalized, by the way. We have the final flyer. Here, this is the final flyer. And on this flyer, there is a even bright registration. People can go, who want to attend, they should register so that we have a good idea on how many people are coming. Last year, they had to go to the city website, and it was a little bit complicated. This makes it a lot easier.

So the social media campaign, that also entails the city's social media? Yes. And our promotion. But you also will do your own social media? Social media. Okay.

Last time we posted it to a lot of different WhatsApp groups. Like LinkedIn and all of them. Yeah. As well as LinkedIn. On the city LinkedIn, we should post this.

Yes. That's our comms group.

Okay.

Yep.

And then... Oh, as I mentioned, we have the review of questions. And Madeline is going to order coffee from Coffee Society. And like she did last time, she'll pick up some cookies and stuff like that. We are post flyers. at the Quinlan Sports Center. I mentioned library. Last time when I ran into a problem at the library, because when I said, put the flyer up there, one thing is it's too crowded in that bulletin board. Another one is you have to sort of get it approved by them two weeks before.

There's a general section. They put that. But that general section only looks at it.

Yeah, they pull it out, actually. They remove it. Every day they go and clean it up. Where do they remove it?

from the bulletin board. I think their processes, every 48 hours they remove it. Anybody can put anything, but every 48 hours.

Oh, so they allow 48 hours.

Yeah, but that is the open. What he's talking about is approved. Approved, they'll leave it there. They'll leave it there. Oh, there is one open area. Open area can put anything. No, no, it's approved.

Yeah, we're looking to get it approved and also we are creating big A-frames that we can set it up, basically blow this up and set it up. And we're going to have two of them, Merlin is working on it, and one of them, so the Coffee Society shop next to the library is going to provide us with the coffee during the So we can set it up there, it's right next to the library. So they'll allow it. It's in their best interest. Right, exactly. So that's a plan for the committee, subcommittee. And just like last time, I'm hoping Vice Chair Kumar can help us publicize the event and also go into the next slide. So, yeah, for different Cupertino businesses, we need help so that we can distribute it to different businesses like eateries and boba teas so that they can set it up in their bulletin boards. They can set up the flyers. Yeah, we'll have soft copies. Marilyn will send out the soft copies. And we need to sort of publicize it in the different social channels. This is not limited to Cupertino residents only, right? From the surrounding cities, anyone who wants to participate. Last year, some people came from Saratoga and San Diego. Right. And then... Cupertino Unified School District as well as Fremont Union High School District. Last step, you will be able to... You'll take care of it this year. Okay, good. And then we need to set a formal invitation to Cupertino City Council. I can do it if anyone wants to do it.

You can probably to send it to the city council.

And do you have a city meeting with the mayor where you have different types of commissioners, commissioners meeting with the mayor?

When is the meeting?

No, we didn't have the last meeting. When is the next one? They were on vacation or something. Is it before October 1st?

It's the last one this month, right?

Is it monthly? Last month it was not there.

Every other. But they skipped it last month. September 16th.

If you can take a bunch of flyers. Take all this. They can keep it out. There are four or five here. We will not waste paper. We have got five. And we can... We can get to give you more so that if you can distribute it to other commissioners.

Yeah. Oh, you don't have that.

No.

Yeah, and other commissioners can bring. She can bring. She hosts. Okay. Or she conducts that meeting like

She attends. Yeah. Okay.

Okay. And if you can promote this meeting at other commission meetings, that would be nice if we can.

All the chairs will be there at that meeting. Yeah.

When you are sending email to the city council, can you send an email to all the commissioners also?

Yeah.

At least chair of the commission.

Yeah. Okay. I think last time. In the mayor's meeting, all the chairs are there.

Yeah.

So when is this meeting, though? When is this?

September.

Oh, I can send a separate email.

Yeah, yeah. I was saying that you send two emails. One to all the chair of all the commission. One is to city council. Yeah, yeah. And ask chair of the commission to...

This is to all the commission members. Okay. I think Lindsay is common to all of them. No, no, no. Chairs cannot. Yeah, chairs cannot do that. So it has to be one of the city employees to do it.

Right. Chairs cannot do that. No, because... No, chairs cannot do that. I understand. But Prabin can send it to all the chairs. I think we did it last. He cannot send it to all the commission. He can send it to all the BCC. Yeah, BCC only to the chair.

No, no, I can put chair name because that's not breaking any promise.

Yeah, he can send it to all the commissioners option. You can send it to all the commissioners. Last year we didn't do that.

I'm not sure about that. I have to double check with the city clerk.

Okay, so last year I did that. I didn't send it to all the commissioners. I sent it to only the chair of the commission, every chair of the commission, one member per commission, and asked them to distribute, talk, promote into their own commission.

Yeah, I'm just not sure.

Yeah.

We can follow up with you on that.

Yeah, VCC, you're fine.

I mean, that's what we do for council and commissioners. Yeah. Just send it VCC and we're safe.

Yeah. Everybody in VCC.

Any, that's the commission tasks for everyone is responsible in the commission. Next. So this is a presentation that we'll be giving. Presentation itself is... very minimal, right? Because there's more of a panel discussion. So that's the first slide, and then we have this slide that we'll be putting up in there. The next one.

Next slide.

Right now, this is the event, and we have the questions in this presentation. But we won't have the presentation with the questions. We'll have the Menti. We'll have the questions in Menti and we'll present this slide and introduce Sumeda and then we proceed to the quiz. Yeah, these are the questions, but basically very simple questions if you want to read through them. These are typical questions that we get every month.

And this will appear live on the screen. The first question will come and then you vote and live. Yeah. That is good. Who is managing that city? This one?

It's going into Menti first. Menti first. Then that will be displayed over there. So Menti is the tool.

Yeah.

It's a SaaS.

And people have to scan. Yeah. So your presentation will have the QR code. The presentation will have the keyword, right?

The question, they'll have all the questions in there and they'll answer.

But we'll have the QR code on the screen first. We'll have the QR code on the screen. And then show the questions one by one.

Yeah, okay. It won't be one by one question. They'll have all the questions and they'll answer. Okay, okay.

Oh, then I can do one by one?

We didn't talk about one by one. Does it have to be one by one?

It'd be hard to read if you put them all. No, she may. OK. You should have a little bit of time. You do the question, and we see the poll. Then you do the question, you see the poll. 30 seconds time per question.

Next question. Yeah.

OK. That's a good idea.

30 seconds or one minute time, whatever. Yeah.

Yeah, that's a good idea. I'll discuss with Marilyn and make sure we have it configured like that. OK. But you need Sumeda's help with that, and she's agreed to help. Yeah, so we have these five questions.

Oh, five questions, okay.

Next. And then this is the Q&A for the- One last slide once more. This slide?

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Is that all? Yeah. No, no.

Contact the scammer and demand your information. Okay. Next time.

So then this is a final slide where the audience have a chance to ask the panelists questions. So we need help someone to carry the mic to the audience.

We have some volunteers. Send an email to Nikita, a couple of volunteers. Yeah. I can also follow up with her. By the way, she is also a team commissioner now. Nikita volunteered last time. Oh, nice. She's also a team commissioner. Your daughter? Yeah, daughter. There was one more girl. Yeah, one more girl. So she's also joining team commission from this year. Your daughter is?

Yes, that's Sumeda. Audience engagement. So she has got three minutes, five minutes.

Yes. Younger daughter. Yeah. And we have the Q&A session for the audience for this. They can ask. Last time we had to cut it off at some point. When we run out of time, what we typically say is, please hold on to your questions after the session is over. The panelists will be here to answer your questions. Yeah, we've been saying that. So that's the end. And yeah, basically, then I hand it over to myself. This is good.

Good. This whole plan is good. Yeah. Solid.

Solid. Yeah.

Very good update. Thank you.

Can we go to public comment?

Yeah.

We have no speakers, sir.

It is your lucky day.

Yeah.

Okay. So, what happens in this meeting?

September 6th.

Yeah.

Oh, that's true. Okay. So, you'll promote our event, that meeting? Sorry? You will promote our event in that meeting?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You will make sure, prepare that all that All the chairs attend that.

And all their families.

All the commissioners. Commissioner report. Are we going through commissioner report right now?

Yeah. Terry.

Yes.

Actually, there are three people who come to the fairs meeting with the commissioners.

Tina.

Tina.

Kirsten.

Kirsten. And then one more.

Just give them.

Someone who takes down all the law orders. Lauren? The city clerk? Yeah.

Okay. Well, we'll send it with either Christian or Tina.

Okay. Yeah. We had a couple of meetings for Economic Development Committee. Oh, I don't know.

Are we going on to the... Yeah, let's see which staff and commission reports. Yeah. Yeah. What is next? Staff and commission reports. I think we are in mayor's meeting. Yeah, there was no mayor's meeting.

Commissioner reports, basically I attended the EDC committee meeting. They formed a lot of different subcommittees and they are assigning it to people. One of the issues, economic development committee. um yeah um i think the the subcommittees uh need to be uh sort of uh enabled right if someone needs to set up right now things are not happening in the subcommittees at this point uh there are quite a few subcommittees but they're not following that one well They just picked the subcommittee members last. So someone needs to enable this.

How many subcommittees are there?

Five or six subcommittees. Six subcommittees and not enough people to be in all the subcommittees. Oh, don't have enough members. I mean, the committee is fixed. How big is the committee? Say... Seven to eight people. No, total. Total in the EDC. Yeah. And then last week there was a Cupertino biz women luncheon. I think that one of my objectives was to promote the cyber security event.

How was it? If there are a lot of people, that's not a matter.

Yeah, there were quite a few. I found that it's not just Cupertino business women, some people from outside the city also attended that. Oh, so the guys are also allowed to attend? No, no. The intended participation is for the Business women. And then Daniel sends out invitations to the EDC members. EDC committee members. I joined as an EDC member. And whoever has got it. I think he invited some commissioners also. There was one more commissioner and then we had the mayor and city clerk and... Tina was there, city manager. Yeah. So at that point, actually, it was a pretty good presentation from a business owner perspective. They brought in a special speaker for this. And what was the discussion? It wasn't a discussion. It was a presentation on basically how to identify for people where their shortcomings are from a thinking perspective and how to overcome those. Yeah. Yeah, basically. I thought it was pretty good. The speaker was really good.

Was it actually really hot?

Yeah. Do you go to that?

No.

You are not hot. No.

No. I don't intend. I do not have to go on.

No, no. The business rules.

Oh, yeah. I didn't know anything about it.

So, that's my commissioner's report. So, I can add, I last two commissioners meeting, I talked about that earlier. John Thomas. And then I sent an email to Mayor Kitty. And then I ran into her on City Hall and I told her once more. She said, send it with CC to all the council members. So I have done that. But we missed the sweet spot when John Tarnas was in the waiting to be CEO, right? Now he is very busy. That time was the best time. He became officially CEO yesterday. Now he will be overwhelmed.

Yeah.

So, but anyway.

So, Mayor Moore and Tina, they were invited in Tim Cook's fair. Oh. And they attended.

Oh, they did?

Yeah, they attended that. Oh. They attended that. Oh. Apple always invites for their episode. So, Apple invited us. And I think Mayor Moore and Tina both. We're there. Both went there. I don't know. There may be more people.

When you said Apple invited us, who do you mean?

Apple invited the city. Because it's headquartered in the city. I know that Tina and Mayor attended that based on Apple invitation. Okay. There might be more people.

No, no, no. Because it's headquartered in Cupertino. Any major event, Apple invites the mayor and city manager. This is not the first time. When Apple Park was opened, they told that time, I think it was Liang or Steven Scott, they and the city manager went. So because in the chairs meeting, they always mention, right? So they always invite any major events.

I think it was very good to see. I saw the photographs. It was very nice. It was very nice to see.

So do you go to, do they invite anyone for Apple developer conference?

No.

That one then.

There's no Dell connection. Right. Apple developer conference.

It's mostly technical.

Developers. Yeah.

No, I'm talking about Terry or somebody. Oh. Yeah.

They've invited us for other purposes. Yeah, we've been invited before. We all went.

Photographs with Tim Cook and. Yeah.

Did you get that from LinkedIn?

It was very nice to see.

Is it City of Cupertino LinkedIn or which LinkedIn? Okay, now we're asking.

It was posted on CBC. Tina posted that.

Oh, okay. Tina is unmuted.

Yes. No, this was not the farewell. This was WW... Oh, Kini, you got invited in the conference.

This is... No, no, farewell. Also, they must have brought the invitation. They do invite. Which ones did you get invitations?

We did a special one where they were... They had a... local governments initiative that they were pulling out. So they actually invited all of the regional CTOs and CIOs. Yeah.

No, I know. Every year at the developer conference, they invite CTOs. This is the developer conference. They also get invitations to...

Yeah. Apple is doing their part.

They cannot invite everybody. No, no. It's posted here, right? It makes sense. They've been doing this forever. Okay. We are done, right? Yeah. Actually, if she took interest, she could have even talked to them. Yeah. Because what I know, based on the press coverage I saw, John Thomas and Tim Cook were very relaxed this time. They were going on and talking to everybody. I know a few people who had discussions with them, and they put pictures on LinkedIn. Wow, he spent five minutes with me. Somebody said, yeah, he looked at my demo. Somebody said, oh, they were asking me what I'm studying. So this year, because of the transition, they were more relaxed at Toronto. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.