Bicycle Pedestrian Commission - Regular Meeting

Good evening, everybody. This is the vice president of the desk commission meeting on 05/20/2026. I call this meeting to order at 07:01PM and asking staff to conduct a roll roll call, please.

Thank you, chair. Mr. Eshelbert? Here. Vice Chair, Maheepakala? Commissioner Ganga? Commissioner Marks? Here. Commissioner Wolf? Here. Here we have Forum Commissioner Ganga absent.

Wonderful. Thank you so much, and welcome, everybody. First item on our agenda is the approval of the meeting minutes from our April 15 meetings. We have received the draft minutes in our packet ahead, and I'm asking for either some feedback discussion, commentary, or a motion to approve. Motion approval is we have a proper motion. Looking for a second. Second. We have a motion. We have a second. Looking for a vote on this topic. K.

For approval of the 04/15/2026. You vote chair for us. Yes. Vice chair Maripala?

Yes.

Commissioner Marcy? Yes. Commissioner Wolf? Yes. Motion passes. Four in favor? Doctor.

Gaffes. Excellent. Thank you. Next item is on postponements. Do we have any postponements from prior meetings?

We do not.

Not that any postponements.

Next item is oral communication. This portion of the meeting is reserved for topics not on the agenda tonight. So any topics that are not agendaized tonight can be covered. And we have three minutes reserved for every speaker on those topics that are not on the agenda tonight. Do we have any speakers tonight on oral communication, either in person or online?

We have one speaker in person, Vivek Duda.

Excellent.

Okay.

Yeah. So

Oh, sorry. One sec.

So we collect some information about the speedy and the and city on our project road. And so first, there are lots of crazy speedy. And either the prints start fast, will for more than one time, I see, like, running at 70 miles crazy. And also, two years ago, there was one elderly bicycle guy who knocked down by a car. Last year, another guy was knocked down by And so recently, there was one accident.

So on the and the the the connection of the two streets. And so we have collect the signature about our loss of neighbors. They're concerned about the speeding. Yeah. More than twenty twenty neighbors.

They are concerned about speed and and and and and and so, basically, lots of cars speeding, and although there is a meter on those streets, always always warning car, the drivers that, okay, you must be. No people care about. So most cars speed. Only, I think, the first maybe the first week, it helps, but other than that, no no effect at all. And so some neighbor, they are seeing that he has too afraid to go across the street because it's too dangerous.

So then when they want to go across street, they have to walk down this down the street to the three lights, walk across streets at the lights, and then go back to the to the to the location, to to the to the opposite the opposite street. So in this picture, this is the Prospect Road. So and this is deal site. So and this is a via wrong call. So another thing is like so so first thing is like for local resident, when they want to go across the street to the wire wrong hole, it's very dangerous.

So many people, they walk down the street into the street light. Go across straight light and then walk back. It's very painful. Another thing is so as I'm as I show it in this in this book, there are lots of bi bikers. Okay?

There is a one one you see, for many many bikers, they turn right onto the Viroenco. So from the Viroenco to the Prospect Row, this is a very popular bike route, especially, like, on the Friday weekend. Lots of bikers, they could go from here to here or the other way. So this is like I got the pictures you see. Many bikers, they turn right. And turn right, you see lots of bikers. They are big group. And you see this is a this picture is showing a light. You see there are two people buy two bikers here. And you see the light?

The the the meter is on. And still, you see, the well, although they are still barking and no car, the car this car is still still speeding. No people care about it. Why? Because this

That is your time?

I'm sorry.

What? That is your time?

It it Those are your three minutes three minutes.

Oh,

I'm sorry. I didn't know that. No. Thank you. Oh, very quick. You see, this is also lots of bikers and some bikers are running into the street, the the driver lane. And in this picture, see, people, there's no crosswalks or bikers that goes randomly at a group Thank you

your time. We really appreciate it.

Take this I think, David, maybe this is an item that you probably should take a look into as as a follow-up from this.

Yeah. I've spoken with the resident in the past, and I I have explained we've done actually quite a bit on prospect. Okay. And I suggested that he wanted to, you know, do any further

We'll discuss this in the future meeting item.

Yeah. This is one

item you're

gonna bring back. But but thank you very much for getting service. Do we have any other do we have any other meeting topics tonight?

As you see, I'm saying, although I'm not silent to speak, connecting one minute to reinforce what he says so far.

You can still fill out maybe a form.

Yeah. You can fill out a form.

Yeah. You can fill out the blue form card and then Okay. Send it out.

Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, okay. Great. Go ahead, please. If I won't get a chance to talk. Go ahead, please. Yeah. Can I talk? Yeah. Yeah.

Just fill out the form.

I did fill out

the form.

You did? Okay. Not.

That's okay?

Yeah. If you're done, then You're all good. You're

good. Doctor, it's good.

I like these protocols. I would not bypass that.

Yeah. Go ahead. Please. Yeah.

Thank you very much. You're you're welcome. How much time do I have?

Three minutes. One gets three minutes.

Thank you. Yeah.

I've been here

on the same address for the last forty years since 1986. And I've been seeing it. I've tried to bring it up with the sheriff's department because even the sheriff's cops at times go above 70 miles per hour. Those days, they didn't have the flashlight, but they said there's emergency. So my answer was, in that case, there should be either some awesome flashlights, but the people cannot I mean, they're bound to have an accident, which is fatal accident could happen one day. So that's a concern I have.

And if

it happens,

I don't know who will be responsible for it. The city or the individual people consider the carelessness of their person. That's the main concern. This morning, I saw one 80 year old gentleman. He is is close to 90, I think. He goes to the for a walker, and he hesitated across the road. There was one young kid with a bad guy. He finally helped him cross that road right in front of our house. We live we we are neighbors. So these are the main concerns. And so far, we are lucky. No major mishaps

happen.

It could happen any day, and it's a open

situation. Yeah.

Building. Again, thank you. Thank you for coming in. Thank you for sharing. Do have any other speakers tonight?

I don't want a second, but people wanna say it. Right? So I wanna turn the phone to

Look. Wonderful. Wonderful. Thank

you. Speakers.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We just wanna follow the Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for giving us all the time to to talk about this topic. It's important as you can see, it's important for us because of constantly people across street. As we try to point out, other people have walked a long way to the end zone from back. We've seen people walk across across the walk all the time, and then you have some time to walk dogs or street or go back and forth because it feel dangerous. Right? So this is not just what they see. We all see it all the time. So hopefully, you can guys can do something about that. Right? For people safety. Right? For community safety as well. That's it. Thank you.

Yeah. K. Thank you.

Thank you so much for coming in and and sharing your experience there. I think we will as we said earlier, we have at the end of this meeting always a discussion of of future topics, and looks like we're gonna discuss tonight to add on this as a potential candidate for future. But we really appreciate you coming in tonight. Thank you.

K.

K. Any other speakers online?

We have no remaining speakers.

Okay. Wonderful.

Any I need that.

Yes. You're It's okay. You can stay here. You're welcome to stay, but you also fill up.

Is covered.

Yep. Yeah. So so,

David, are you allowed to talk about that? Yeah. Yeah. Is it okay? It's I know it's not

We cannot cover the topic tonight, really. Yeah. We will not

talk about it or or or so. But So so me for me, this topic is, you know, near and dear. And I have witnessed quite a few of, you know, what they are saying. I myself, you know, fight through that pop area last week. Right? I that's my usual bike route. And I see that even on my street, and I brought it up a few times. And I also spoke to few residents nearby. There is one incident that somebody reported to me last week. I want to bring it up as well. But I I think, you know, we need to put this on agenda and publish it well in advance so that the community can come and provide their input. Yeah. But we need to do something about this because I have the exact same concerns as, you know, these gentlemen that are living in the tables. Yeah.

Let's Let's bring this back at the end of the meeting, bring it back to the agenda. Yeah. But we will we'll cover this in a future meeting. Yeah. For sure.

I'll come in there playing in there for a year as well.

Yep. You will be note you will know that the meeting will be on on the agenda formally, and then you we'd love to come you back for you to come back and, you know, share with us when we formally cover the talk.

Already Okay.

Thank you.

So so is

that roughly scheduled? Like, this will be

I don't know.

I don't know the We

we always meeting on the third Wednesday of the month. Uh-huh.

So every month. So Okay.

It's one of the next meetings. So we'll try to schedule Nice.

As

soon as practical.

Thank you. Kindly You can go online and register at our Cupertino website for getting email notifications. Then you will get notifications on, you know, these kind of items, the agendas and stuff like that. So you can watch and, you know, come here. Okay. Got it. Okay.

Thank you very much, Matt.

Thanks again for for sharing. Thank you very

much, David.

Thank you.

Appreciate it. We'll talk more.

Sure.

Alright. I think that concludes Is is

it a filled out one?

Yeah. So you're free?

Good. Good. That concludes our oral communications for tonight.

Yeah. Mhmm.

I'm closing this part of the meeting tonight and get back to our item number two on the agenda tonight, is talking about the bicycle facilities improvement. And I believe we have a staff presentation of this topic.

I'll start the presentation. Good evening, chair and commissioners. Myself, Prashant, of. Tonight, I'll be talking about giving an update about the power of plan item, and, also, we'll be discussing the potential next steps for installing bike cracks throughout the city. I'll start with a little bit of background.

This project started as a physical year twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three pipeline item, and this has been brought to Bicycle Pedestrian Commission several times over the past few years. These are all the dates which it was bought to the Bicycle Pedestrian Commission. And on 04/19/2023, BPC meeting, commission requested staff to return to the BPC with details regarding process to make exact locations of the bike racks, and also different styles of bike racks, types, including the inverted u, post swing, and Stanford style bike racks options. Then, again, on May seventeenth twenty third commission approved a formation of a subcommittee with commissioners Wolf and Marcy for the purpose of bringing back recommendations for BPC. And 02/20/2025 BPC meeting, the staff gave an update regarding the rotary's effort to install bike racks in front of private business and on the city property.

The rotary and subcommittee identified six locations and designs for the city property. No action was taken from the BPC. And also in the 05/21/2025 BPC meeting, staff again gave the update what was going with the when the when the bike racks will be installed and all those stuff, but no action was taken from the BPC in that meeting too. In fall twenty twenty five, six bike racks were installed throughout the city at several locations, including Maclellan Ranch, Memorial Park, Library Field, Wilson Park, and on Stevens Street Boulevard in front of and. As of now, Citi has spent around $8,000 for these installations, and there are about 42,000 remaining for the future bike rack installations.

So this is the budget status on this project. And going forward, we are looking from the commission where the remaining funds can be focused. Like, the possible opportunities that previously identified locations within city right of way, which staff has identified earlier so we can install some bike racks there. And, also, there is a list of proposed location on the private properties. We can look at those locations.

And, also, if you want, we can install some bike racks in the school sites if we are we can take the joint decision. This slide shows the proposed bike rack locations previously identified by the staff. Staff has identified at that time, it it identified almost 24 locations. And using these three criterias, we filtered down to 14 locations. So the 14 locations are highlighted in green.

And in these 14 locations, there are four locations, like, for example, on Stevens Creek Boulevard in front of Caffalati and Cupertino Library Park, Mecklen Ranch Parking Lot, and Memorial Park. Already, the bike racks have been installed in the fall twenty twenty five, so leaving only 10 locations. So the these are the these are some of the 10 possible locations where we can install the bike racks. The same information is in presented graphically. These were all the 24 locations which we have identified.

And after I applying the three criterias, the 14 locations were shortlisted. The 14 locations are shown in the blue color. And if you see the Location 19, Metro Branch, Memorial Park, the location 23, and the location 12 that's near the City Hall, and Location 10 on Stevens Creek Boulevard in front of cafe Leite, they are they have all already been installed. So there are only 10 locations which are shown in blue, which are some possible, which is for the bike racks. And this slide shows the proposed bike rack locations by chamber on the private properties.

So these are the locations which are chamber identified. One thing we want to note that none of these properties have been contacted or about the installation of the bike racks. So but if you wish to select some of them, then we have to contact them and coordinate with them. Staff would be very happy if VP or the commissioners, the bicycle person commission can coordinate with them and help in going going forward going forward with the bike installation if we choose any of them from this.

And and just some context also with with this is this going back to your original intent when the rotary got involved was that they they were supposed to help with this effort in reaching out to well, the Rotary and and the subcommittee helped with this effort in reaching out to these businesses. And at some point, that that focus got shifted onto those six locations that are have now been installed. So

And the six locations are city locations?

They they are in city property. It's the decorative racks that that Mhmm. Raised. So if these locations, if the commission would like to still consider, you would again Prashant is very polite about it. We would again need the commission and or rotary or somebody else other than staff to really hit the pavement and and talk to the property owners or managers about these locations because because we don't have the resources to to do that.

And then we would the city would come in once that contact had been made and the agreement by the owner had been received, then we would come in to get whatever easements, you know, or or actual written permissions were needed to proceed with the installation.

So these are, like, when you say easements, the city will install it and you want permission to install that for the private properties allow public to park there, not necessarily the people who are using those businesses, but in general as a public parking?

You know, I don't know. I would imagine the business owners would I mean, it's kind of up to them, but I would imagine that they would want the people that use the rack to at least be their customers or somehow affiliated with the business, similar to if it was a parking space. They would I would imagine that that would be one of the conditions that they would have. That would probably have to be Who

would be responsible for maintenance for those?

That would be the property owner. Most likely. Again, that's something that we would have to figure out. Somewhere.

So any liabilities will be bought won by property owner?

It's a good question. Yeah. We haven't done this yet, so I don't know. Yeah. But if if you

if you can find a location that's on city property that near the businesses that meet all our criteria, that would be ideal. That would not be permission.

And that's the list that Yeah. We had a previous yeah. So let we can let Prashant finish the program.

Yeah. Let's finish it. Let's finish the presentation.

I'm almost close. Yeah. Regarding the next steps, the staff would be happy if we can receive feedback and direction from the bicycle pedestrian commission. From bicycle pedestrian commission, we are looking reaffirm prioritized locations and bike rack styles for staff to further investigate, support staffs effort to work with schools. Once we get the commissions feedback, transportation division staff will perform site visits and proceed with installations, develop city standard and typical details, proceed with type two of work plan item that would be reviewing the building codes and planning requirement. And this concludes my presentation. We'll be happy to answer any questions.

Thank you, Patel. Thank you so much for for the presentation. Do we have any clarifying questions from commissioners first?

Can I just add one Yes? One thing? Prashant mentioned school sites. So we've become aware, staff, that a lot of the public schools in Cupertino are very much lacking in capacity for bike racks. And I and can come back with more specific information at a future meeting if the commission wants to move forward with this.

But there are a lot of schools that have expressed willingness or even eagerness to have some help with having additional bike racks, schools where the kids are locking their bikes to the fence because they don't have a bike rack available, you know, things like that. So if you you so in addition to the locations that were discussed, we would be happy to come back to the commission with a list of schools and quantities that we would be willing to spend some of those funds to purchase and install bike racks on the school property, and then those would be maintained by the schools. Mhmm.

Mhmm.

Go ahead. Go ahead.

So I have comments and questions. Right? So I like the idea, you know, David is proposing, which is, you know, the schools. Right? That's where the need is. And, you know, doesn't matter what's previous week or the city. It's at the end of the day, you know, it's our community and our kids. So I I want us to install that by tracks, you know, where they'll be I don't want these things, you know, to be sitting there as a decorative item unused. Right? For example, I myself know bike a lot and, you know, bikers usually gravitate towards, you know, to for stops.

Right? Like, you know, towards coffee shops and, you know, and pastries and stuff like, you know, potato break things. Like, I see that all the time in the Starbucks and they don't teach at the Homestead And Hotel Junction. Those bike racks are always busy. So because of the bikers. Right? So is it? If you put a bike rack next to the bank, you know, nobody's gonna use it. Right? So who who goes to the bank, you know, on a bike? So it's gonna. Right? So so we have to do some analysis to see, you know, where this will be used the most and put the dollars to use, you know, where it will be used the most. If it's cool, so be it. Right?

And so that's one. And second, somebody sent me, you know, pictures of, you know, some of these, you know, that were already installed. I'm gonna go visit them. I'm assuming, you know, those are the six locations that are called up. He has McLaren branch and Memorial Park, Lazaridis Field. Right? And that the people that send me pictures, and they were not too happy, you know, with the bike racks, the way that they are. And just felt like, you know, you know, what we saw in the picture, which is, you know, what's installed, it just feels like, you know, it's a rotary some kind of a rotary location. Right? Like like, it's too prominent. Right? Too bold. Right? So I would like that, you know, rotary sponsoring. Great.

But I want that to be somewhat like, you know, invisible side thing, not like, you know, a big deal. Right? It's it's it's the the Rotary signage on those racks were too common. Right? And people some people did not like it and, you know, they send me some pictures. I wanna go visit them. These are the six locations. Right?

Yep. My understanding is just for clarification. Those future ones we're talking about here are non branded, so that that's no longer that that's it's OCD owned and there's no involvement for Our recommendation

is that it's one of those three styles.

Yeah. No no branding would serve. Those

are Branding.

Inexpensive, readily available. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And how

many actually can we get for 40 it looks like $42,000, I think. But how many can actually be installed for that 42,000 that's left?

We kind of did some rough cost estimate. So inverted use time, which is the simple style, which is which costs around thousand dollars per rack, which can accommodate two bikes, and post and ring, which costs around 1,200 per rack, which also accommodate two bicycle, and the Stanford style around $1,500, which only accommodates one one bicycle for per rack. So most probably inverted U would be that kind of a more we can accommodate more Post economy. Post economical. And, also, we kind of have more.

And even when we saw the Stanford University, I was just using seeing the Google view. Even they also have the inverter unit campus. So they have the both the camp Stanford style, and also they have the inverter use in the Stanford campus.

So then even if we decide, like, on three locations, we can install multiple at the same location.

Yes. So I think it

would make sense because I think spreading them all over the city would be better to have, like, some clusters where where there's multiple as well.

And then the the thousand dollars you've ordered, is it includes installation or installation?

One it includes installation, but this is a very conservative estimate. I just gathered from Internet research and everything, but it's not, like, exact cost estimate. It kind of includes the installation, mobilization. If there is any demolition or installation of the payment or the concrete, it includes that numb figure, but still it's a very conservative number.

It might actually be cheaper.

Or, Varminti? Before we go

into the discussion, let me just open up for the public if there's any comments from from the public on this on this topic.

We have no speakers, chair.

Okay. Wonderful. Thank you. So now we let's go back to the commission and see how we can kind of drive this forward best.

And a clarifying question. How long do you feel the project has to be complete, like, to lose some money if you don't make it happen? Or how does it

There's no deadline, but it it will be or as time goes on, it'll be closely scrutinized by counsel as why we haven't finished it since

since four years.

That's that's why I'm asking for you.

But but we've not been given a hard deadline.

And the other one is with the diaper, you mentioned schools, would they be installed on city property or on city sorry, in school property or city property or on the city right away? School property.

Has have the schools given us given you any idea how many racks they would like?

No. I know that I think normally, they get stuff. I think Homestead was very interested in some racks. I don't I don't have the exact numbers, but I can get it. If if the commission was interested in that, I can absolutely get back.

Thank you. And and and the so the the the locations by chamber, the this is the chamber actually gave you the us.

That was yeah. That was provided by the chamber through communication. It might have been with the. We hadn't I hadn't reached out to the chamber, but those were those were giving me the results coming from the chamber.

And we're involved in those private installation. Probably, it would be better to prioritize first city properties and also schools where there is a clear kind of understanding of who takes the launch.

Those would be very easily done. Private property is very tiny and something.

Unless somebody comes in really kind of proactively and says, hey, we would endorse it. We would have it here. And and I think it may make sense there. But I think us pushing for it seems like it's the wrong thing to do.

And, yes, the the list of of I think this is the original list that

Yes.

That we put up several years ago. Yes. Yes. And and so so some of those have been installed, and the ones in green meet all the criteria that the the prior commission Yes. Put out there. And there may be some additional sites, not probably not that many, that meet the criteria of that one. Like, Molly Chi, there's a that's a very popular place right now. And that's just something you can

put a

rack on in front of that

and on the city property. But and it's always very proud as far as I can tell.

But that's so there could be

some additional information on what we're doing.

And at the commission's discretion, I mean, we even the ones that didn't meet the criteria, there's there's nothing sacred about the criteria. That's that's what the commission had wanted us to filter by at the time. If you decided that you wanted to make that more flexible, we could even move the locations that aren't in green.

But all those sites are are vetted so that they are at least facilitate of bikes. So it's not something that you can come back and

Yeah.

I believe you've looked you did site visits.

Yeah. We did site visits.

They're all feasible.

We are they're all

feasible. They're feasible.

I would say. Yeah.

Great. So so are are there bike racks in Park? Okay. Yeah.

That was that's not a question. I thought that it's probably

This is a very good question because I saw a lot of bikes being dropped on the ground next to the new playground where kids are

Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. So the reason I'm asking is, I mean, that that's Yeah. My home park closest to my place. And it used to be, you know, three, four years ago, you can go and get park free parking anywhere you want, and, you know, the park used to be empty. Right? Only walkers and stuff like that. Now we after playground upgrade, it's nearly possible to find parking spot in that parking lot. Right?

I went there recently, you know, two, three times. I had to park, you know, on the street, like, you know, Stelling on that cul de sac streets. I parked there and walked. That's how busy that park has become since, you know, the we did the upgrade. So most likely, you know, a lot of people would come in bikes and stuff, you know, trying to come in cars into the park, the kids and all that because it's much easier. There's no parking space, you know, for cars.

It it's on the list.

It's on 20. Number 20. Or 20. 20?

Yeah. I remember. The Yeah. Surface surfacing with ice. Yeah. Yeah.

I think we're not there either now, but regardless, it was a location that talked about.

Yeah. Worth looking at that. Right?

So

And this would be another one where you don't wanna put just one there. It sounds like you wanna even forward forward. Or maybe

if she wants.

Yeah. We could put

But in general, that that brings the point. Right? We should look at the other park locations and see

Mhmm.

If if it makes sense to either upgrade the existing facilities or Mhmm. You know, add new ones. 100%. Yeah.

In part, seeing an obvious place Yeah. Actually, we really wanna have. Alright. So how do we drive this towards a potential recommendation? I I think we probably wanna all kind of take a look at some of those locations. Maybe we split it up once the commission that each of us looks at some

of those locations there. It's only the red ones. Right? Red ones are the available ones. Right?

No. Red ones are the one which are

they're credit they are scored out at the moment. It's taken

It's done.

It's taken away. But we can we if you want

Oh, that's Yeah. We can taken away. So Only green ones. The green ones.

Yeah. Okay. It looks like

we should probably look primarily at the green ones. Okay. If we split it up with the commission, everybody takes, three or five. Okay. Then maybe the next meeting, we're gonna make the recommendation for what we saw and and how many we we recommend in those places. And then probably schools as well, if you have input from the schools.

I can bring that information.

That would be kind of an additional vector to use.

So I

I don't know if this makes sense.

One one point that I would like to make is in the spirit of fiscal responsibility, c USD and h u h s d have budgets that they can use for this type of things. Right? So we're asking the city subsidize for something that they're supposed to do themselves. And so the question is, if we put these back racks here, we might not put them where they're needed elsewhere in the city for something that is already paid supposed to be paid for by the or issue. If, for example, there's not enough need, for example, on the other racks in the city, like other locations, then that's fine.

But I would hate it for us, you know, to shift money towards UHD CUSD and FUHDSD for things they are supposed to do and deprive the rest of the city of the amenities that we're putting on the table here. Just wanted to mention that. That's

that's for the commission to decide.

It's a prudent point to make, and maybe that's part of the discussion next week when we or next meeting when we say, okay, we have those identified and we come up with, I don't know, 25 racks in total, we have 15 available. We can put them

some additional for the school

already enough in the city, then we're not gonna be able to fund those in the schools. Maybe that's a way to kind of be take take this into consideration as well.

Yeah. And similarly for private locations, and also we can put it as a third priority.

I agree. I agree. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. Mean, especially if then the owners can kind of determine what to do with them. I think that's probably not in the spirit of of the city.

And even if you guys come up with a new location also, we can look at it.

Yep. Yeah. We're not we're not married to that.

Yeah. You know why? Wilson Wilson Park is kind of says no here.

I think Wilson Park already has already has the one

So one of the decorative.

Right? The decorative one, which has a lot on the baseball fields and two more at the basketball fields. So Yeah. Pretty well

It's pretty yeah. That's right. The

yeses here are only four, but I think the the correct is five or six. Is that because there's two interseimbications? There's two weren't done that way. Oh, alright. Any other discussions, or is everybody comfortable with the idea of spreading it up amongst amongst us and and kind of looking at them? I mean, back to in in the next meeting or the yeah.

One one of the. We don't need a motion, but might be helpful if while we're

we split up I'll I'll I'll yeah.

I'll take nineteen, twenty, 23, 24.

I'm happy to take whatever is left. Any other any other anybody else's preferences?

I'll take the first first four. What is it? 25, seven, and nine.

That's that's a I thought

we were looking at everything. Even the ones that weren't didn't meet all the criteria. Is that correct? And that's that's on this map.

Yeah. It's all 24 locations are on the map. The red one was doesn't meet in the doesn't meet the criteria, so that's why I kept it as a red. And blue one are the one which meets the criteria. And if you see there is four locations which is little bit dotted, that is already completed. But feel free, like, we can look at all the 24 locations, or you can add up more four or five location to the list and come up with the list.

Each of us takes four, then we cover all all of them because we don't need the yeses anymore. They fall off. So each of us takes four, and I think we we can cover you with the blue ones.

I I took this four because they're kind of nearby.

We need to go.

Which four digit Yeah. Which four digit

1920, 23, and 24.

19, 2023, and 24. Yep.

I think, Ilan, where you had I

said 257, and 9. Okay.

579.

5. Okay. I Can I take 22,

22?

And then you took 9 already.

Yeah.

I can do 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5.

Guys. It doesn't matter, really. So so I'll let

Later the party.

Yeah. Take take whatever. Which one are left?

10? Ten, eleven, 12 are available.

Fourteen. So ten is already done. So no? Yeah, I can do it. Ten is complete.

Ten and twelve is completed.

Yeah. I have to take eleven as well.

Twenty two and eleven.

Ten, fourteen. Fourteen. Yeah. You wanna take one more here?

Sixteen is also I can take six.

Sixteen? Okay. Okay. So that leaves Joe? Which ones are left?

Yeah. That one, the last one,

whatever. Is, like,

the last one.

134.

1346. You want those?

I'll take those.

34, and 6. So Gerhard, you get 81315, and 17. Okay. So there's actually two left. It

shouldn't be because we have 24 minus four. It should be 20 in total. Divided by five should be four each.

Four.

Oh, Memorial Park. The I mean, you took 23, and that's already got one.

Yeah. Yeah. I took 19, 20, 23, 24.

Yeah. We don't need 23 because it's already got one.

Do you wanna We got one. Can

So I switch to Wilson? No.

Wilson. Even 19 is also done, completed.

So Oh, yeah. Nineteen's done also. Okay. So those are so, I mean, you need to pick

I need to pick another. Sure.

I'll pick I'll pick for you.

Okay.

Because there's only two others left.

2122? So it's 18. 18? Yeah.

Fine. Okay. 18 and Wilson Park also, which probably doesn't need any, like, everybody was saying, but we'll give it to anyway.

Okay. Do you want me to take Wilson Park? Yeah. So I have 18, 19. No. 19. It's all 19.

18, '20. '18, '20. '21. And '24. '24.

'18, '20, '21, and '24. Back in the earliest, August.

And we'll we can we can Yeah. Can send this out to the commission.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. And the goal for all of us is essentially to look at the location and come back with a recommendation. Should we put some there? And how many if Yes. Put some there. That's gonna be cool. And if anybody has ideas about additional ones that they wanna visit on top of that Yes. Everybody's welcome, and feel free to do so much.

I will I will add this Volley too. It's a hey. What's that?

Yeah. Go for it. Go for it, Joel. That's that's yours too. And then we'll we'll schedule this in one of the upcoming meetings as soon as possible. Yeah.

Yeah. Just we when we talk about our agendas, just let me know when you like to put it on. Yeah. We I can have the school information

at a point in time.

But I think setting expectations for all of us to look probably over the next, I don't know, four to four to four weeks, I think, probably, hopefully, that's realistic that we can visit some of the patients in any

Yeah. Great.

Alright. I think that covers it. And, David, back with the school recommendations Yep. Knowing that we may deprioritize them if we have sufficient. And the private properties, we leave out for the moment.

Alright. I think that's where's that item for for the agenda. Think we can out this item here. I need a motion, I think, but I think we have everything is well understood and clear. Let's move on to item number three on the agenda tonight, which is the appointment of a representative to the BTA bicycle pedestrian advisory committee. I think we have a staff presentation on this.

Yeah. No presentation, but I I'll give a brief summary. So the VTA bicycle pedestrian advisory 16 member, 13 member committee made up of a representative from each of the jurisdiction in Santa Clara County that makes recommendations to VTA board of directors matters relating on to bicycles and pedestrians. And they reappoint committee members once every two years in these jurisdictions, and Harry Marcy, their representative and has been since 07/01/2024. So on June 30, his two year term expires.

So BTA has asked reappoint a new representative to the committee. Herve is eligible to be reappointed if the mission desires, or you may select for that role. I don't know if you want to say anything about what they do. I have personally never been to one of them.

So the meetings are pretty interesting because it gives a broader view of kind of what happens in space. It is fairly VTA centric. So there is very often an element of transit that is associated with it, but not always. So for example, one of the big projects that's happening so the projects are multi jurisdictional by nature. So Bascome Street is one of them that they want to completely redo Bascome Street in San Jose because it crosses over multiple jurisdictions, and they want to do complete streets out of it, so adding some protected bike lanes and do stuff like that.

So this is the type of projects that's being decided upon. There is also some aspect of recommendations as to in terms of development, for example, if there is the way the so how can I say that? The the way the environmental impact is quantified for certain projects, then the commission will make a recommendation at the county level. VTA is an interesting interesting animal because it's a mix of transit, like, congestion agency. It's a public agency that does transit and and multi jurisdictional projects that I mentioned before.

So it's a lot of things. And so sometimes we have, like, a little bit of everything in these meetings. Yeah. So and it's interesting to also understand what's upcoming, like, how the county also the county county body. And so it's interesting to see what's coming in terms of of projects and also to see what's an impact opportunity on in in the know about what's going on.

So it's a fairly important connection to the VTA or or how do you

Yes. Okay. Yeah. So we are the way it works is that every agency, member agencies, representative. So there's a for the sales, the sales, sales, the sales, all the cities. I think also has one seat.

Mhmm. Mountain View, like, all

all the cities in general. Yep. And the meetings are monthly as well? Monthly on Wednesdays, six to zero eight.

That's correct. Thanks, Harvey. And, ultimately, it's it's the city council that will make the recommendation for the appointment with the bike commission. So we'll inform staff's recommendation for the city council.

So you need a motion from us tonight?

I would like a, yeah, I would like a vote on a representative and take that information to the city council to make the official point of record.

I mean, I I feel like personally, I feel like you have done a good great job in that role, in my opinion, I would be supportive if you would be willing to to do continue the role. I would be very supportive of it, but I I only want both of these body here.

Thanks for the kind words. Unfortunately, I have upcoming commitments which are gonna prevent me from Mhmm. Effectively fulfilling that that role. So Yeah. Yeah. I'll be turning out, so to say,

Yep. Anybody else is interested in taking that on?

And if I recall correctly, Eric Linskov was someone who was not part of commission but was representative to BTA. So it doesn't have to be someone from that commission's mind Right?

Yeah. I am I think it's I'm pulling up that information now.

I thought it said, you know, it has to be a commissioner.

I I think they let me let me look it up here.

I think he served as a continuing continue to serve Yes. He continued. Now, you're not okay. He's

Yes, sir.

Commission turned turned up, but he still continued for one more year, I believe.

Committee members shall be representatives of local bicycle and pedestrian advisory advisory committees or member agencies that do not have a local bike committee, shall be other individuals interested in member issues. So I think Eric just continued because he well, he turned off the bike commission, but he hadn't turned out of the VPAC, so they let him run out his term. But they do want the member to be a member of the local agency byte.

Mhmm. Mhmm. Mhmm. Yeah. I mean, this is something, you know, that I really want to step in, but, unfortunately, I travel a lot. Like, you know, so and I plan my travel around these Wednesdays, the third Wednesdays. Now, this will be one more Wednesday that I need to worry about. Right? So and I I didn't know if the remote participation, those kind of things. So that's why I'm not kind of, you know, jumping up this opportunity. Right? I'd love for other capable commissioners that have time to kind of I would support anyone who's to start.

Are the meetings in person or almost?

Yeah. I I can't take take this up, Peter. I have commitment from my worker. So so I won't be able to close-up this meeting. So, yeah, I would also put anyone who wants to volunteer.

How would you think about it, Joe?

Well, I got a couple issues. One, don't drive at night anymore, And I have vision problems. My night my night vision. So it's late on 1st Street. So Sounds like that. So so

The VK VK headquarters along Oh, they're not the person there. There to drive a San Jose. San Jose.

Yeah. You ride a bike, but, you know It's a long ride a bike over there. And and I am in a retirement mode, so just I but there's been a number of conflicts that I've had just being on this commission here. I want my freedom. So it's been two Wednesdays out of the month, which is just too much for me at this point. I mean, just it's a personal thing. Otherwise, I will consider doing it.

Yeah. I mean, I I'm kind of gonna say both. I mean, for me, the the challenge is I mean, I I've missed the flight to work day again because of board meetings that I had to go to New York. So I travel quite a bit to New York for for work. I think I'm I'm afraid I'm not gonna be able to do a good job. I'm probably even not attending any of the meetings, travel schedule. So I'm a little bit wouldn't I wouldn't have an issue otherwise, but I think my travel is just not really conducive to this issue. So I'm not sure what to how to think about it in that

One solution would be that there's gonna be like, some of us are gonna term out in January, and the condition to make someone a new commissioner would be okay. He can join, but you have

to Well, yeah. What your other commitments, do they start immediately, or are you just wondering if you would keep up? Because you you don't necessarily if you were to get reappointed, that doesn't necessarily mean we'd have to we can replace our representative at any time in the term. K. So that's just something to consider.

You you identify four months before January or next year in June and say, look, my I cannot do it anymore. I would love to do it, but I think I just practically, at the moment, I I couldn't do the job. Just I cannot I missed most of the meetings. I thought it was scheduled as well.

How long your constraint, eleven?

At least for, I would say, probably about a year for those board meetings. I would say probably next the next twelve months is probably

something. Sure. Sure.

Then I think things phase out there. Maybe we can kind of come with you start and we talk in a year from now and say, look, your schedule has been difficult. Mine gets better than we swapped out. But

Yeah. I think that

I could bridge until January probably, and then think as we have new commission members coming in, I think we'll need to ask them the question at that at that time.

That's a possible option. Okay. We do

be willing to do it till the end of the year? Yeah. Okay.

Thank you. January.

January.

Yeah. Until we have new Because we don't know. I think the the commission may completely mix up differently, but I think some of us are expiring.

Okay.

I mean I'm I'm expiring. Yeah. You also joined on.

Don't think so. I'm okay. I

believe I'm I'm

I have eight years left.

Handful of energy.

It might it might it might annoy.

No. Anyway, I think that's a good that's a good compromise that helps us at least bridging the next few months, and then we will have to see what the what January brings in terms of the the news set. Let's see. Will that be the the recommendation we bring forward to console? Yeah. Okay.

And then that'll that'll give me time also. I can have a discussion with VTA and see what alternatives are in the event of January.

Yeah. Things might change. We have

Or we don't have anybody that's able to do it.

But if if I switch jobs, right, if I don't need to travel this much, I don't mind, you know, doing it because I I would like to get involved and, you know, shape the future of trans transportation.

And even if the if you bridge till at least for for the May, June next year, then I think my schedule will also

be Will

easier and better. Okay. It's it's also it's it's work.

I checked both. Both of your June 01/30/2027, both are your term is expired. Yeah. For you also. First time ending. Both of them says first time ending on 01/30/2027 from the BBC website. Yeah.

So first time ending, that means you are eligible for free loans.

First time ending or second term?

First time ending.

Okay. Okay.

That means that means you can read file. Right? Yep. Okay.

Understood. I think let's make a motion on that on that point to your point. Mean, reappoint early for the I don't know if you need

to state this over to January Yeah. Reappointment.

Yeah. Not

necessary. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I'll revisit the top. Yeah.

We'll we'll we'll say that to you just Yeah. But I I understand that

in January explicitly stated here that it can be changed then.

It'll can yeah. It says yes. Stop. Right. I'll again, I'll talk to VTA and and let them know if that's what's probably gonna happen. And Yep. We'll figure something out between now and then. Yep. Sounds good.

Sir, it looks like you have to check for the public comment for the every item. Maybe just Yes.

Yes. Thank you very much for that. I really appreciate the reminder. Let's do that

now. We wanna get input from the community,

from the public on this topic. Do we have any speakers?

We have no speakers. Sure.

Okay. Wonderful. Thank you.

Do you need do you need a motion?

I'd like a motion. Oh, you mean motion.

So that we are For emotion, do I get a motion on this topic?

Yeah. I I propose to be. To

be real at To be point. Your position. Do we have a second for it?

I I second it.

Motion is a second. Can we do

a quick vote on that topic?

Yeah. So for reappointing Harry Marcy as the VPAC VPAC representative, how do you vote, share, Ashalit?

Yes.

Vice Chair of my department? Yes. Vice Chair Tonga?

Yes.

Vice Chair Marcy? Commissioner Wolf? Yes. Motion passes. Yes.

Good job.

Vice Chair Marcy.

Thank you, Marcy. No.

Thank you both the good work. Thank you. Yeah.

I think it's an important interface into it's that somebody from the from the commission is actually taking the the role there. Alright. That closes out item number three. So moving on to item number four, which is staff update and commission activity report.

Let's see. A couple project updates. Stevens Creek, all of our phase two a recycling project. We're we've slowly been working through our challenges, which have been many. But we are in a position now where the next couple of weeks, you'll be seeing some positive changes, New traffic signal pulls at Wolf And Stevens Street Boulevard will be going up in a couple of weeks.

And then following that, we'll be putting up the concrete barriers along the roadway. So by mid July, hopefully, the project will be or substantially The Twitty Wolf Interchange project has been getting off to a slow start because of bird nesting and wood rats, which the biologists have had to pause certain key activities until the the birds and the rats move. So I don't know when that's going to be picking up again over at the wind of the birds

and the

rats.

But this is endangered species?

They are just I I don't I don't know the details of of why, but based on CEQUA and the biologists, they monitored and allowed to do their

cities. So

stay tuned. But there's still trees to be there are a lot of trees that have been removed, which Wow. But I noticed there's still quite a few Yeah. Yeah. So that'll be both the next steps will be getting back to the tree removal and removing the median on the Wolf Road.

But, again, it's gonna be at least a couple weeks before that will continue. Our my crossing guard contract the renewal of the crossing guard contract was approved with the council last night. So we're gonna two two year contract extension with our crossing guard company. Previous. Do not have any so I can try to remember to yeah.

Sorry. I'm not I'm not involved in project, but I can provide remember, I can make a note. Next month, I'll I'll try to get an update for the commission and bring that.

Excellent.

Oh, yeah. Thank you, Prashant. And, yeah, our contract to do citywide speed surveys, engineering and traffic surveys, we we finally got the contract with the consultant signed. We've got a pre pre kickoff meeting. We'll call it kickoff meeting with them tomorrow afternoon to get them get them.

The goal is to have probably do the speed surveys over the summer, do traffic counts around the city, like, all before the end of the year, take the surveys to council to get the ordinance updated with the new whatever we or updated speed limits.

Yeah. Any other staff update or or commissioner reports? No. We had a successful

bike to work station energizer station at the corner of Stallings And McCullen, which four to five commissioners participated. Thank you. And we had a couple of participants from Walk by Cupertino as well as the mayor was there. The chair of the Parks and Rec Commission, he he showed up. I can't remember if the Wow.

That's it.

So is it it was quite a contingent.

I think planning commissioner Tracy was there too.

Yeah. But very brief.

She Yeah.

For, like, two minutes.

Okay.

Good. Thank you for doing that, folks. I mean, we We

had 65 riders. Yes. 65 riders came by, I think. Stopped. And probably just many passed by about six about 65.

Mhmm. Very appreciated. Yeah.

Excellent. And I met a couple of, you know, people that came to that booth, and they were complaining about, you know, lot of construction going on. The residents, you know, that live in the city on the Rainbow Road between, you know, Steli and Buck Road. That section, they're saying, you know, there's all this construction and, you know, and their kids are going to Kennedy School, and it's very difficult for them not to navigate that road. So it was hard for me to imagine, you what could be on that road because I've seen that road a few times.

So I plan to go and visit and see, you know, what's going on. Okay. Right? But I think, you know, that is something that, you know, we need to look into, you know, what's going on, why, you know, visitors are unhappy about some construction that's always going on on that section of the road that's becoming dangerous for kids, you know, going to grad school. K.

I don't know what the construction yeah. I'll note that.

And two of them. They did. Two of them, at least one that street came on complain about it. I told them, you know, we'll take a look at. And I told them I'm on a bike commission, so we'll look into it.

I've seen that construction. I think they're replacing the water.

They're replacing

what? The the the water line.

Water line? Yeah. The answer. Yeah. Think They're

turning us. Yeah. They're turning on rainbow.

Yeah. Rainbow. I mean, it's been there for,

you know, a while.

Yeah. Yeah.

So so they're replacing the waterline.

So so when we do that, when we give a contact, we kind of put a constraint on, like, you know, you gotta do it, you know, within this time window or, you know, within this number of days and, you know, between these times of the day? Because they can't be doing that, you know, during school time.

So kids are away from school.

Yeah. We we do do that. And at times, you have to relax that just because of the nature of the work. If, you know, that they can't if you if you miss all the school times, then you're only getting, like, a four or five hour window. You might have time MobileIte, you work, and demobilize. But, yes, we we as much as possible, we try to keep more off the street during school times. So I can look into what the permit

Yeah. Says. That increase because, see, for kids, you know, going to school, it I mean, for other sense, it's hard to navigate these construction sites. Right? And imagine no kids. Right? Like, I I I I do this all the time on Hotel Expressway when I'm biking. I see, you know, this street tremors and, you know, closed lanes and stuff like, We're into that and, you know, the traffic watching for traffic. Right? It's very challenging for adult experience bikers. Imagine, you the the kids. Right? Mhmm.

Okay.

That we should answer those. The tennis deputies were there. I've got, like, four of them. So they they stopped quieting. So something Oh, for

the bicycle? Yeah. They stopped.

Oh, cool.

There are four.

Four of four.

Four On the bicycles?

No. They came on motorbicycles.

One bike. Yeah.

They they

One was bicycle. One came on bicycle.

One. One.

It's very fast.

It's crazy. They can kind of give us some more academic education on on the e bikes.

E models. Yeah.

Or e models. Oh, e models.

We had a very good presentation Yeah. That for those of you that were there, didn't it was excellent. Yeah. Watched the video, which is online. Very informative.

I I wanted to cover this because we just had the chair meeting with all the commissions before this meeting at 05:00 tonight, and this came up in the context of the bicycle pedestrian commission came up. We should really urgently cover this topic about what do we as a city recommending moving forward to do on this e bike versus e MOFA issue because I think it's all intermingled right now, so people are confused about it. And I think we should come up with a recommendation. The session is very good. The folks from San Ramon and and from, I think, Palo Alto Marine County.

Marine County. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. They have been very successful, it sounds like, and we kind of curbing back some of the sprawl and those throttle bikes, the forty, fifty miles per hour bikes.

Yeah. They they also mentioned, like, one is, like, the the riding on the pedestrian

Sandals.

Sidewalks as well. It's like and these are, like, huge. But it's like, maybe we've gone to college. It's water sacred. Right? Yeah. Water sacred. Yeah. Disaster waiting to happen. And we're looking to other once right. And the cops were saying that in somewhere in Southern California, there was a fatal accident involving involving e e motor or e bike on the on the pedestrian on vehicle. Yeah.

Yeah. So that that clearly, I think, is one of the topics that we should probably schedule in the next month or two to come kind of tackle this topic. I think it's

not gonna go away by itself.

The other topic that came up Share

like, on this topic, I was reading an article. Now even Amazon is trying to restrict the sellers to sell the Mhmm. EMotors and on the on the website.

Yep. Mhmm. I think a

mother of a teenager was on charges. There was

The kids.

The kids took his actions, which I think is a great thing because now you have ownership and responsibility. Tell someone. Exactly.

So I think it's a mix of education because I think even even if you look at some of the probably knowledge out there, it's not widely known that which ones are the dangerous ones and which ones are the easy ones. Like, the pedal assist, they're all good. I think it's all about the throttle, the programmatic ones. I think we will cover this in a in an upcoming meeting. I think it's super important. The other one that came up as well in the context was the bike racks. There's still some questions out in the community about these the bike racks we installed in the past. I'm just reporting here. So the ones that we some may not be in the perfect place. Some may not be as used as much.

So that's probably that's why I think this effort that we're doing here right now, that we all go out there, look at the places, is a really important one to kind of call the community as well and make sure that we're setting them in the right places there as well. I think those yeah. The other the other one was active transportation plan. Where are we on this? Oh, yes. We are yeah.

We've we just provided back to the consultant staff's comments on the the final draft. So the next step is they're gonna pick up our comments, and then that draft will be available for public review for a month. And then once that public review is complete and we address the comments from the public in the plan, then we will bring it back to the commission and the city council for adoption. So

Okay. So we will see Yeah. Before it gets finalized, so to say, we will see the final the final piece of work. Yeah.

Yeah. I anticipate that probably in July. In July meeting? Probably.

Okay. Alright. That that was a question as well that came up. I think that that was probably it. Yeah. Any other staff update or commission activity reporting? Sounds like one more. Thank you for that. And I can close this item out there. Moving on to our last agenda for tonight, which is the future agenda setting. So this is where we look for new items that we wanted to add to this list to pick from, and it looks like the folks that came in presenting today, the the residents came in. I think this certainly is a is a topic that we should be adding on here, the future agenda item.

I think we should be able And we kinda have that. That that was the mid block crossing on prospect. We we can because that was in my discussions with the resident, that was his suggested solution to all the problems that he articulated tonight. We can but we can expand that to Yeah. About crossing and

If it's a speeding issue. Speeding issue. Right?

And then there's a lot of

context and background

Yeah.

That I can provide. Yep.

Yep.

From Sarah.

Yep. So so they this one, I think it's a general citywide issue, not just that. I mean, because they are the ones that came and spoke up. Right? Yeah. And I I know you probably listened to, you know, some of my neighbors on my street. Right? So, you know, you meet with them. And Mhmm. I heard at least from two elderly residents living on, you know, King Street. Right? So one of them name is James Ward. Like, I have James Wong as a neighbor. Right. That's someone

to that's someone to have on your side.

But he's been there for sixty, seventy years. He came when he was, like, seven year old kid. Oh. Until that street. Right? It's amazing. Right? He was telling me that, no. There are speed bumps on Kim Street. But he's saying, you know, nobody cares. They're they're going, you know, like, forty, fifty on that street because these cars, you know, are are so advanced. Those speed bumps are no nonevent for them. Right?

No worries.

Like, so because they're, like, you know, very mild. Right? So so that was his complaint.

Yeah. Okay.

And the other one was, you know, at the end of that Kim Street where, you know, it becomes, you know, one way where they cannot work towards on a gentleman. Right? That intersection, that junction, you know, I I need to go and talk to the guy. I got it from, you know, somebody else and that walks with this person. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then the person I'm gonna go talk to him, he saw something really bad happen there. And, you know, he want to to describe that, you know, because he knows, you know, I know by commissioner. So he reached out through that more contact, say, you know, I want to talk to him about this what is happening on this junction. So I'm scared to meet him. Right? So the speeding is a issue citywide. We need to do something about it, and I brought it up few times. Right?

I also mentioned once in a bit, I had to I think this was on the on the McLell Road only after Kent State and before that where you go to Faria, right, the the the junction. Literally, you know, I had to go in the middle of the road and stop the traffic because there was one woman with dogs trying to cross. Nobody would leap her. Mhmm. Mhmm. Nobody would be healed to her. Mhmm. And she was with a couple of dogs and she was standing there. I threw myself in the middle of the traffic and then forced all the cars to stop and then let her out. Right?

This is our next trip. Right? And I know you installed, you know, that flashing, crossing. And 92 year old woman that lives, you know, are right across the McLaren branch, you know, part of the shopping complex. She told me that, you know, she's able to cross now because of the that one. Prior to that, she needs to go to CVS because she's very elderly and she uses wheelchair to go there. She was not crossing McLaren door before. Now she's able to cross because of, you know, the flashing sign. Cars are honoring and they stop and she's able to cross. We need to do something because these are not freeways. These are not expressways. Yeah. People there is more reason for anybody to be speeding in.

I guess, do you think more than this is mostly in the larger streets, or do you think this is also the the neighborhood kind of

I think, you know, the neighborhood streets where it's a dead end, it's not an issue. The neighborhood streets, you know, that are like a pass throughs. Like, for example, you know, lot of people that exit, you know, 85 Yeah. On Stevens Street Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Come and navigate, you know,

this McLaren Road Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

And go on. Get down, you know, Prospect. Those are as well. Yeah. Yeah. Go and rejoin, you know, 85 after Saratoga. Right? So they're trying to know, work on the 85 backlog. So they exhibit Steven's speed, take these scores. So they make a right turn on Skim Street, right, instead of going through the all the way to Bianza. Right? They use the Skim Street and they use Bolinger, and they don't get on, you know yeah. Right? They use all these streets to and they speed. Right?

And and So we we should probably

Maybe exactly. I was just saying Yeah. Maybe we just title this one as a broader topic on on speeding in the city and how we

handle it. Yeah. Speeding the city and

Of course, in the

context of prospect because I think this

those cities probably will wanna come back as well as speakers. Yeah. And I think we should probably title this as a road roader or a topic speeding the city.

Speeding in the city and safety. Right? Yep. But then, you know, we can invite, you know, broader set up people to come and speak.

Yep.

Yep. Let's do that. And the the the same topic to speak or both? Or what do you want?

I think we should the the speeding in the city issue is good, and then maybe in parentheses, I e, prospect road. But others will be will be, of course, includes the the discussion is broader, but the context of prospect is gonna be an exam.

But we want to wait for your study to be done for top of that, or that's gonna be the outcome of this study. Right?

The

Engineering traffic.

Engineering traffic. So that's that's gonna be setting speed on us.

Honestly, they really know the way I see this, you know, if I want to be remembered in the future, right, I want to be remembered as a guy that made good, you know, safe to walk and drive or whatever, but I'm gone. So No.

Think that that's good. I think that's

what that's And, yeah, I I I I welcome that because it's probably the hardest task to tackle.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. What

about I think the e bike topic is already on. So if I remember correctly, I don't think we have to do just pull it in one of the

upcoming meetings. So one more thing is missing. There's always prospect towards the end. Also say in general, mid mid block mid block crossings and that as well. Right?

Okay. Password.

So you want to add mid block also?

Yeah.

Yeah. We did one such improvement on on Rodriguez. Okay. And the mid block. We got

Yeah. So, I mean, just to kinda frame all this. Yeah. Our active transportation plans for this purpose. So it it identified the locations around the city where we wanna do pedestrian improvements and other things. Yeah. Yeah. Right? Prospect is one of the locations which I had put on because I'd spoken to this gentleman in the past. So I I I would recommend that we not focus on particular locations before we have the context of the active transportation plan, which is a citywide perspective.

Mhmm. Mhmm.

That that being said, I would be very interested in your point of