City Council - Regular Meeting

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It's cold as a gut. That's There's a good reason for it. This is the statement room. The minutes are February 6, February 2nd, February 7 or January, February 17, February 2nd, and February 26. January. I need that. I don't know what

percentage wise I know medical the fire has changed quite a bit. How the volume change? You still getting as many medical calls as a year ago or is it okay? So, did we have more fire calls out? Why the percent count? Okay.

That's the problem with not having ambulance here.

Like call the meeting to order. Mayor Crane here. Council member Copenhaver here, Bzer here, Easter here, Smith here, Randles here, and Attorney Pal here.

Are there any additions or corrections to the minutes? Minutes stand approved. I want to welcome everybody to the council meeting tonight. This is about the biggest crowd we've ever had, I think. And normally if there's this many, it's not for something good. Tonight, it is. Amy, would you come up, please?

Amy has done so much for the city of Coington and for Why don't you do it up here so the camera will catch you right here? Right there. Got this right here. There you go.

I'd like to read a proclamation right now. Colton Wright Day th January 30th. Now therefore, be it resolved that I, Bradley D. Crane, mayor of the city of Covington, Indiana, do hereby proclaim January 30th as Colton Wright Day in the city of Covington, and encourage all residents to honor and remember that January the 30th, 2026, as the day justice for Colton was served. In witness whereof I have set my hand and caused the seal of the city of Covington to be affixed.

Yes. If I want to say anything, I'll just say a few words. Um I would like to thank everybody in this community. The outpouring and love of and support that myself and my family and Colton's have received has been overwhelming. It's been a very rough four years and um I just appreciate everybody that they never gave up giving up hope as well and that day on January 30th was by far that day that we've been fighting for. So you go back on March 17th um for the sentencing. So that's our next hurdle to come across. But um Justice was served on the 30th and this truly means so much that you did this. Christy Berley has become such a good friend. Christy and Todd live um close to us. So I thank you for facilitating this and for everybody for coming here. This means so much and we have family and friends here from all over. So thank you all for being here. Thank you Brad.

Going. You're welcome. Going over the Facebook page and all. I see re rian vine kite and uh who went to the prom with Colton and I it just struck me uh her her comment he's the funniest guy she'd ever met. So Colton was a very funny person. So lots of friends. Rion was a little older than him and she took Colton. He was just a little chubby 15-year-old freshman to um prom and then he ended up going to five proms throughout his his high school career because he was such a such a fun kid and a unique kid and so

I appreciate it and I appreciate the the city council doing this. So, thank you so much.

Thank you. I WANT IT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE gets a pretzel and a magnet. And um look at the the beautiful flowers and and everything. I want to thank everybody for coming. This is this is a great and just for a for Amy and Chuck and and the family. So thank thanks again He says, "I don't care. I can't

Kennedy, you can come up here. Did you have something to ask us? We do. My name is Olivia and I'm start and today we are here to request permission to use the city park, specifically the soccer field and soccer field pavilions on the day of March 29th um to host the annual Easter egg. Does anybody have a problem with that? So that

that's fine. Sure. You're welcome. Thanks. Thanks for coming and asking. Thank you so much.

Um we are just here. We did purchase this structure last year. Yes. Um it's a shade structure. I don't know if it's actually gazebo or what they call it, but it's for shade for the pool. We were just here to make sure that it's going to get on the spring schedule. Maybe not. We were talking June or something, but this it's going to get on schedule this month. We're going to put it in this. We're going to put it in. Well, this is not just us. It's Triappa, too. So, um we'll be putting on on the structure that it was donated by coffee. try count. Okay, that's fine. That's what we're just here to make sure that that goes up. Casey, Jean, Tyler,

the police department, fire department.

Thank you for Thank you for purchasing that. Yeah. And that'll you know create a lot of shade for this is what they bought. This is what they bought right triath and coin and split that in half. That's great. Yeah. Yeah,

I got it. Bob Lyn, did you have anything for us? Nope. Carol. Okay. At this time, I'd like to introduce Michael Klein Peter, Klein Peter Construct uh Consulting. He's um our grant writer for our ochre grant that we're trying to secure to replace starting with Second Street water lines, take care of our lot a lot of our dirty water problems that we've had um the last few years. So Mike, I'll turn it over to you.

Thank you. Good evening, council and public. Mike Pine Peter, Fine Peter Consulting Group. We're the grant administration firm that's going to assist the city in this grant application to the Indiana Office of Community and Rural Affairs, also known as Oakra. This is our first public hearing regarding the water project. Our legal notice was advertised on February 19th in the local newspaper. We are going to be applying for $750,000 and we're going to be contributing $300,000 of water operating funds on the project. We have a proposal due to OKR on April 3rd. After that, open will review our proposal and they'll come out and meet with the mayor and clerk and talk about the project and then we have a second public hearing that'll be done in May or June. And then we've got a final application that's going to be due June 5th. So, we're going to have our second public hearing at the May council meeting. We want to make sure that citizens are informed and have the opportunity to ask any questions about the project. Funds available through Ochre are limited. What happens is they score your grant and then they just start funding until they run out of funding. Once they run out of funding, you can you'll get a feedback meeting and then you can come back the next round if you're not awarded to try again. Um, award announcements are going to be in mid August. With that, I'll turn it over to Drew Wilson, the engineer that's working on the project from Egypt to talk a little bit about the scope. try to position this so everybody can see. Hopefully that's all right. Um, thanks Mike. Um, as Mike mentioned, I'm Drew Wilson. I'm with the civil engineering firm Eegis professional engineer there. And um, like Mike mentioned, we're pursuing this $750,000 grant through OKRA with a $300,000 match uh, by the city. Uh, it's a total of $1,50,000. And so the idea is to, you

see, Second Street's highlighted here, try to get as much of the old water manes uh that experienced breaks and leaks in that area replaced as we can uh with that $1,50,000 budget. Um so it'll be about 1,300 ft of water man based on a preliminary estimate that still includes about 30% contingency. So over the course of the project design, that contingency is going to drop and more of that money is going to be allocated to actual water man replacement things like that. So the water manes will be replaced. There will be new isolation valves. There will be new fire hydrants put in and there will be new service lines run from the main to the meters for all the residents uh residences and businesses that are in that area as well. Um that's about it for right now. Um the scope has been defined to that level. I'd like to do again.

No. So with that, I think we'll just open it for public comment. Let's just You're You're talking about Second Street only from Yeah. Sorry, this this is a little confusing. We we had evaluated everything that was in blue originally to see what the cost might be for various alternative routes. Um, and with the mayor's input, um, this was the area that needed it the most. And so we just focused on Second Street eventually. So that's from Liberty to the Park Avenue. Um, Union Street all the way to all the way up to Pearl Street is is where we're looking at, but I expect we might only get about 1300 feet of that.

Drew, let me weigh in a little bit. Go ahead. I I think we'll get a lot more than that. um 1300 ft um based on you know um just my experiences putting in you know with excavators and um putting in pipe with pipe fitters having worked around it for the last 50 years I think we'll get more than that because it wouldn't be worth it for just 1300 ft

and I would agree with that that's been my experience do I mean a lot of the cost is mobilization you know just getting somebody out there to do it and then once they're out there then the cost for them to actually perform the work is significantly cheaper and I know right now a couple of firms that are just not busy at all they're sending guys home every day and so I think right now we have and in the next several months we'll have a better you know idea of the workload in this area. So

yeah, when it comes to the grants too, we've got to commit to what is the bare minimum we're willing to do. We can always do more than that. It bids come in good, but we can't do less than that. And so one of the things we talked about, we looked at doing all this. It was it was like $4 million. That's too much. Let's focus on second as much as we can and go as far as we can. And if we get good grades and we can do more great less in the right, you want to You want to narrow it down a little bit to keep yourself safe and then you're removing would be abandoned in place. It would still be there abandoned in place. Uh which just means it'll still be there but not functional. bend it in place.

Got it in. I mean, I'm just asking questions in general. Great. Normally that way the end so it materialized, right? Maybe everyone else understands that just I think we've experienced some streets.

Yeah. No, that's good. And that's why I wanted that in the minutes for gets copy of the minutes. We've experienced it recently three weeks ago and we had staff plan residential customers and so uh I think that's another reason the second street was chosen because it's going to be very competitive with the number of leaks and we're going to go back up to years to get data to support all the issues we've had in that area and why this was chosen. I think that that's also um north of Pearl Street as well as south is where a lot of the dirty water has come from because that line has been in it's one of the longest lines it's been in.

Yeah. And as part of our grant application, we got to submit letters of supports from residents. So we're looking for about 10 letters of support from residents. if you've experienced any issues in the last 5 years. Okra just wants to know from your point of view, what are you dealing with with water issues on Second Street? How does it impact your life when there's a break and you can't cook dinner because there's a break or or you can't do your bedtime routine or things like that? And then from the city's point of view, uh, the mayor is going to work on a letter that talks about the amount of staff time it takes dealing with bricks, the expenses, the response time, and dealing with dirty water quality, things like that. So,

can can you go over the list again for the things that's going to be replaced other than the water line? Because I know you mentioned fire hydrants and Yep. Yeah. Just slowly. Sure. the water line itself um as much as we can get within the budget. Fire hydrants like you mentioned uh they've got to be placed I think every 500 feet or so for fire protection. 300 300 I believe

I think ISO says but I want less than that I think we tried for 300

isolation valves so everywhere that there's an existing main that crosses uh the existing main that's on second uh that would need to be cut over spliced into the new main then and we would put isolation valves on all branches of that. Uh that way if you've got a break or something, you can shut it off, isolate it, or if you need to do a repair, you could isolate your main that way. So it's important to have those in. Um and then the service lines that I mentioned are um the way that the water gets distributed from the main to the business or residence. Um and that would be replaced all the way from the main, the new main up to the meter. Are are catch basins not not included in is that more sewer related or

Yes, that'd be like storm water. Storm water. What size is the minimum 6 inch? We we plan for 6 in. I think it's 4 inch right now. Um which is generally not acceptable for fireflows. So 6 in is about the minimum for that. So does it get laid next to what's already there? Because you said you're leaving the old in place. So, does it get laid next to it on top of it? It would be next to it. Yes. Because I actually had a lady ask me if they could be without water that long because they take all the old out and then put the new in. I said, I don't think it that's how it works. But I I would I'd let her know.

It would be up to the sequencing. um that's decided on by the the contractor ultimately, but um on the water main jobs I've done in the past, they sequence it pretty well so that everything is pretty much in place and tested and then they just kind of cut it over. Okay. Minimal downtime that way. And I know that we've had a lot of complaints even as far east as 9inth Street. So when you start looking at it second, third, and fourth at a $4 million price tag, that's why we need to start looking at smaller chunks.

Yeah. And the ochre grant is one that you can come in every five years and get funding. So I have some bigger cities like Connorsville where it's like, hey, we're going to do this chunk and then the next time we're going to do a couple more roads and then a couple more road rows. And it it it takes time, but at least you're making progress and and doing what you can and getting as much grant money for it because you you could do it all and raise rates on all the residents, but then nobody wants to do all that at one time and have the whole city to up. And so with that, um I mentioned Ochre really cares about residential impact and they want to hear from the residents with those letters. There is a residential survey that I'm going to hand to council. Um, as part of the scoring criteria, we get points for doing a residential survey. This would just be something that's posted like on Survey Monkey that residents could take or uh click on the city's uh website and take uh just for the public. I'll just read through some of the questions. Uh and and we can change any of these if you guys don't like any of these questions. This was just a me throwing ideas that I've done on other projects over the last 10 years. Um, are you aware some of the city's water mans are approaching the end of their useful life? Yes or no. Have you experienced water service interruption or loss of pressure in the past two years? Yes or no. How long did the service interruption last? Less than 2 hours, 3 to 6, 7 to 12, or more than 12. Um, have water leaks and water line breaks caused inconvenience or disruptions at your home? Have you been affected by a boil water advisory? How did it affect you? Oak's just looking feedback and to hear from residents. And so if uh if the council would just look at this and and see if you like it, if you want any changes made, we can make changes. But I didn't want this to go out on the city's website or something and you guys not know about it. But if you could just have family or friends take this quick survey, take a couple minutes, but it really makes all the difference in who gets awarded and not by how much residential support and

comments and what they're dealing with. Um That's everything I have for today. Hey Mike, we have some items to take care of. You got the ordinance resolution. Did everybody get theirs? You might have questions or want. Is this just for the resolution or are we going to go through these separate? We'll do all three of them separate.

Okay. We'll do the statement of community priority first.

Mayor, I'll explain what that is. So, as part of the grant application, we get points for making statements and they listen to these public hearings and things like that. that I'll be referencing resident letters in the mayor's letter. One of the questions said is, is this project a priority for the municipality? And so I get points for saying it or or hearing it said at a meeting, but then if I don't have some kind of a reference document, I don't get the full points. And so, um, that's what that community priority statement is. It says this is our highest water project. Um, this is currently our highest water need this water project. There's also a second statement in there that says we'll maintain our water utility for the next five years. Okra requires that we take care of the water system for the next five years, which of course we're going to anyway, but by documenting it, we get those points. And so that's that's really what that is. And some of you I know are like, what is this? Why are we doing this? It's just documenting for the grant that we're going to commit to do these things. Casey, do we have any logs that indicate how old some of the water are in different areas of the city?

Just from the blueprints that are only I know of. But we do have something that's got the all this farther up east but are Okay. From a priority standpoint, that's helpful in knowing how to keep moving forward.

Oh, everybody understand the statement of priority? Yes. Anybody want to make a motion to want to sign it? Yeah, we each have a copy. Just three. Sign three copies. Sign three. Yeah, started down there.

The resolution 2026-2 and the ordinance 20 26-4. We'll take motions. So, I would move to approve both of those. Can we ask questions on those first? Absolutely. They're just doing priority right now. Yeah,

it's been a long time coming. for the grant. I need a sign in sheet with all the council and the public. So, we put I guess he doesn't care. So, as a disclaimer, anything that has to do with okra, I'm going to abstain from because I work for Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith's office overseas, the Office of Community Rural Affairs. So, I will be abstaining from those Next, resolution 2026-2. Whereas the council of the city of Covington, Indiana, recognizes the need to stimulate growth and to maintain a sound economy within its corporate limits. Whereas the Housing and Community Development Act of 1974, as

amended, authorizes the Indiana Office of Community and Rural Affairs to provide grants to local units of government to meet the housing and community development needs of low and moderate income people. And whereas the city of Cington, Indiana has conducted or will conduct public hearings prior to the submission of an application to the Indiana Office of Community and Rural Affairs said public hearings to assess the housing, public facilities, and economic needs of low and moderate income residents. Now therefore be it resolved by the council of the city of Covington, Indiana, that the mayor is authorized to prepare and submit an application for grant funding to address water improvements and to execute and administer a resultant grant, including requisite general administration and project management contracts and agreements pursuant regulations of the Indiana Office of Community and Rural Affairs and the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development. The city of Covington, Indiana, hereby commits the requisite local funds in the amount of $300,000 in the form of water utility operating funds as matching funds for said program. such commitment to be contingent upon the receipt of WDW funding from the Indiana Office of Community and Rural Affairs. Do I have a motion?

So move. Second. Second. Clarify. Since the grant isn't until fall, more than likely this is a a fiscal year 2027. that this is it won't be before that. Yeah. Before we convert before we would bid it out, right? So, we would apply um we're applying in June. We would get awarded hopefully in August and then from there, the engineering firm has six months to do final design. So, we'd look at bidding this in early of 207, January, February, right?

Which is a good time to Yeah. Paul, you're correct. Chad, yes. Kathy, yes. Yes.

Yes. Motion passes full. Sign those three. And I assume that 2026 6-4. The update is to become compliant with what's needed for

Yes. Okay. I would move for that approval. Okay. Ordinance 2026-4 is updating the fair housing ordinance and replacing ordinance number 2002-1 which this council passed in 2002. The change being section nine which is I'm not going to read the whole ordinance on this.

It's the only change and then all the other sections then move down the list. So nine actually doesn't replace the previous one. N is added two and then everything else moves equal access to housing in HUD programs. That is the only change. Do I have a motion? I'll second it. Second. Randy. Yes. Sorry. Hold on. It was passed in 2002 and it's just updating the ordinance. There's nothing about okra. Yes. Even though you abain. Even though you have to abstain. He's okay with that. Updating an ordinance. Okay, Paul.

Yes. Motion passes 5. finally get there.

Mike, do you want to take a copy of each one with you? Sure. If you have a copy, that'd be great. Those are for you, Mike.

Thank you. Sign those. Thank you, sir.

Is there anything else you need? All I need for You guys want to hang around? Did you Did you need a copy of that? Uh, I took a picture if that's okay. Okay. All right. Thank you.

Thanks. 30 seconds. Hey, see I don't have anything. Great. I'll just let the council know we got we got another contractor down there look at the lab upgrade project I went over the plans with Thursday and this guy his uh what's his name again

Tom correct anyway he uh he does commercial lab I mean he's done this before so everything is commercial and laboratory grade Looks pretty good. So, we should be getting back with

it. Sorry.

Um, was today I told we didn't get it done. A little busy, but we were able to put together rentals for 20.5 copies of them. Um, we ended up with 234 calls last year. I think we're add up about three to four from the year before. Uh, broke it down into medical fires, accidents, mutual aid, standbys, good intents. Good intents are basically um going and doing CO detector checks, smoke alarms, things like that, community things. Um and then I broke it down medical for city and townships. So fire calls accidents and then at the very back page I broke it down to total calls you know for like the city townships there. So um question was asked earlier about medical. Uh that's about where we're at. 60% of our calls are medical. Um the number could be more. Uh, a lot of that depends on who's available. There's times medical calls come in and we don't have people go on those calls. So, we don't record those.

These are all recorded, you know, calls that we go on. Um, that's about the number if I'm the percentage of medical to fire in the last couple years wasn't that higher. Fire it. Yeah. I mean, It's usually twice or three times if not. That's about what it is here. I mean, if you look 59 to 21%, that's almost three times. I I'm sorry. What I'm saying is I I thought the percentage was higher in the past medical medical to fire.

It it I mean it that is I mean it's okay. I guess I don't What are you asking? What I what it right now at 51%. I thought that percentage was a lot higher. Oh, higher than like it goes back depends on how many people are going on calls. You know, if there's if there's people available then the numbers are going to be higher, right? But I'm saying what I thought is in the last couple years the ones that you have responded to that that percentage of medical fire was higher. No, it's about the same. Not the same. Okay. Yeah. But the calls quite likely are quite a bit higher than what's recorded here because there's several we didn't respond to.

Yeah. I mean, we could we would probably you could probably put another 30 to 50 calls on that probably that we missed through the 12 months probably in that 12 month period if not more. A lot of those are medical. So we're at that point we're entirely dependent upon county ambulance which we already are because we don't transport exclusively though. Yeah. We're we're Yeah. I mean they they we don't transport. We just go and support. That's it. They do all the support. They do all the transport. Right. So but then for a response time in in a medical situation, we're talking about at least another 10 minutes minimum. It takes them seven minutes. Seven, eight minutes to get here from beers.

Okay. is what it takes. Now, granting if there's a truck available, they're not on other calls, but it said it's around 8 minutes. What we figured eight 10 at the most, but it was it's between 8 to 10 minutes for an ambulance to get here. Now, like I said, depends on location. We've had some calls where you know the ammo service is very busy and typically what they'll do is is um if the two trucks in Beersburg are on a call the truck will move to the center of the county there has been cases that those two trucks have been out on a call and there's been another call or been a call in the Cington area and that out of truck has to come here. So it it is an extended amount of time for them to get here. There's no real easy way to get here from out because you can either come across Stone Bluff Road or whatever. It's not easy. So then yes, it would extend the time, but they're coming from Beersburg, it's about 8 to 10 minutes, which is I'm not complaining.

What I'm doing is trying to emphasize how important it is for us to in the long run consider locating an ambulance here in Cington, right? because that need especially as our population continues to grow that need is going to continue to grow along with it. I agree 100%. If we go the way we're if we go where we're going and we've been talking Brad and I been talking to you, we all have the housing goes in the way it's going supposed to go. Obviously, we're going to have more people. You're going to have the more more chances of call medical calls and then we're going to have to probably have that. I've been requesting it from the county for for some time.

So, if you and I talk, we probably figure next Well, that's two years ago. So we were saying next three to five years. So we're getting in that three to five year period that we're probably going to have to look at that. What is it the cost for us to be able to do that? Any idea? Million dollars a year minimum. minimum you're probably looking 650 for 650 for you're probably looking 650 for personnel and you're looking around last time I priced the ambulance was around 400 by time you figure the wages their benefits and all that you're probably close to 6 650

plus longterm we got to consider facility as well and probably some kind of housing You you don't have to if you're if you if you provide a 24-hour service, you have to have a housing for them. It's law by law. Thank you. You're very welcome. Anybody got any questions on the numbers? Busy as always.

Yeah. Yeah. Very busy. Um the other thing I got I want to bring up, you probably have seen it on Facebook. Uh we did put on our Facebook page, we are doing a live fire burn this coming weekend. Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Um, what it is kind of set same way what we did back in November. Friday and Saturday, we have instructors come in. They're getting trained. And then on Sunday, we're doing what we call a light bite. So then what we do is those instructors have to teach new firefighters, fire behavior, fire attack, and all that. So that'll be going on this weekend. So just everybody be aware there will be some smoke. Uh, I want it on record. It's on the on there. We will be only burning straw, OSB board, and pallets. It's all wood and straw. That's it. There's nothing. I cannot by law burn anything illegal. So, or we'll lose everything. So, anyway, that's what is being burned.

No tires. No tires. Sorry. Uh, but anyway, that's going on this weekend. I think they're looking at 18 burns. Okay. likelihood of water getting stirred up in the system or stirred up in the water system. It's going to get stirred up. Yeah, I think when we did it last November, not a lot of water will be flowing, but I think it will get enough. It's been better since we flushed two months in a row. So, and we haven't had near the complaint since we did that. So starting next month, we're gonna start and do it every month. Okay. Yeah.

So yes, there's a potential, but we won't we don't flow a lot of water, so I don't know. We may not stir enough, but so that's people. Yeah, I want the public know that yes, there's a good possibility and there will be smoke. Warning you now. That's all I got. Thanks. Ken, I got nothing. Okay, Dean Tyler. Okay, you guys are easy. Lincoln, did you have anything for us tonight? Nothing.

Good answer. Okay, just let us know. Paula, I don't have anything. Chad, no. Kathy, I've had people ask about where the Earth House was. Does anybody know what's going to be happening in there? Sliders on it. So, haven't heard anything yet? Yep. Okay, Brad.

Obviously, there's been a lot of discussion online about our contract with Claus and Claus, which we've all been provided a copy of it at this point. I understand Brad, you've had some informal conversation with is it Ace Veterary. I uh have talked to them um about spaying and neutering and their price was $90 for spaying, 115 for neutering cats and which is pretty good, but they said that their surgery schedule is so busy they don't know if they can do it or not.

Okay. So, as far as providing a service, they can commit to that. So, but I've got another girl that might be interested in doing what Ashley Cadman was doing. So, have more conversations. Ultimately, it's I don't think it's our problem, the city problem if people were more responsible and Shannon can't go out and get them. I mean, they Shannon goes to people's houses they call to get their kid to go to school. It's a it's a problem with the people, you know, not being responsible for their pets.

It's also become a feral issue where we've just got lots of strays that nobody owns. But as I understand from people that checked it out and reported back online, they only had 10 cats they or 10 animals they neutered last Nick Spader neutered last year. So the problem is getting the animals trapped and taken there so that this happens. Yeah. And I know everybody'd like to point at the city and make us responsible for it, but

I'm not going to ask you to do that. I said, "Give me the net from there." I don't know.

That's all I uh Yeah, I've been u looking around. I actually talked to Jeremy Clayool from the BFW about some new flags for the park. Uh the one at the entrance way finally come down. The rope broke. Oh, the the flag was just close to but it was all tattered. I mean, it was and so they take them up there and they dispose of them properly.

So, I talked to him about maybe uh maybe about four flags, new flags for the park. Uh the entrance way uh boys baseball has a couple spots down there and then the the spot where uh memorial for Josh Witzman. Um, so, uh, we need at least four flags. And then Jeremy also told me they all need lights. If we're not going to take them down every night, then they need lights on them. Yeah.

Um, so I'm just throwing that out there to see what we can do. If, you know, I I haven't heard back. He said their their meeting, BFW meeting is tomorrow night. So, are they $20? I he didn't give me a price, but I didn't know what size we needed either. So, the one may be bigger than that. I was thinking the 3x5s or 4x6 for 20,000 through the VFW. Yeah, there's a guy nearby that actually does this for living like farmer or something like that. No, I don't think so. He died.

Oh, okay. I guess he's not doing it. Wow. Okay. I I guess I don't have anything else. Get some for us. I get them through. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. He's He said they're meeting tomorrow and then he would know for sure tomorrow night. So

that' be good. And then I may have a group of uh youth coming down, a youth group from the Baptist church maybe on Wednesday depending on the weather to go through the park and just pick up trash and maybe do some leaves and you know kind of make the park a little more presentable. U it looks pretty rough right now. So with the snow it looks better. Yeah. If they could get him out of the pickle ball court tennis court, that would be good. Yeah. And that's all I have.

Okay. Very good. Um, we took our community crossing bids this week and Milestone was the low bidder for the streets and uh at $234,820. Uh the city pays 20%, INDOT pays 80%. Which has gone up from 75 to 25 it was for eight years. So I think we should vote on that um by could I have a motion to accept Mileston's bid?

So Brad, just to clarify, wasn't was there four or five bids? Five. I'll second. Okay. Paul, yes. Chad, yes. Yes. Yes. Motion passes 5 to accept.

Does anybody have anything further? If they have trouble with the flags, the American Legion that's where we've got them before. I know we got those. Okay. How many? I'm not real sure yet. Possibly four. I'll check and see what we got, but

Okay. Okay. Thank you, T. Taylor, do you know um does the foundation have those or the flags. I think I think that Dale has bought those before for the for the streets out here. Do you you have some extras now, Jean? How many you think? Did you get them from Dale or I don't know. I thought you got those last

I don't think so. So, we have 20 flags. must have missed if we have any and disposed up if Jeremy doesn't. I know Bob will

put it in there.

Yeah. Appreciate it. Okay, great. Thank you. Meetings adjourned.