Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Last time before 7, 2025. Um, per the request for our office, we're going to skip down to number four first, guys. It's 152 Clinton Street. It's the dumping walnut um request for variances. They're going to replace of not pylon and facad signage lighting and also added drive-thru canopies. Is anybody here to speak on behalf of 150 to Clinton Street?

How you doing? Good. How are you doing? Well, Tom San, I'm a franchisee for that location.

Did you sign in so that Make sure you sign in so we have the record. We are this. So Tom, if you could just start by just kind of giving us an overview what you want to do. I know we read we've all read the application. Maybe you could just verbally tell us what uh what the restaurant is going to be doing. Well, sure. So we're uh obligated every 10 years by our franchise agreement to remodel and come up with the current standards um which includes logo, you know, the branding. But so previously it said Dunkin Donuts, now it just says Duncan. So, basically there's uh currently three signs on the building. Um, one facing across from like Starbucks,

right? And that just says right now it says Dunkin Donuts. So, we want replace that with just Dunkin Dunkin. Then the I call it the front of the building where Yeah. Yeah, there's a a Dunkin Donut sign and then underneath it is a a read readable a static where you change list, right? Then we want uh replace both of those sign with just one sign that says Johnson. Okay.

And then the back of the buildings, you know, around the bend where the drive-thru, right? Previously, it had a static um drive-through menu board and the new image and the new type is a digital that um the physical menu board is actually substantially smaller than the other menu board. The difference is this has a canopy where you when you're ordering there's a speaker basic. Yeah. Okay. They don't really work especially with this kind of weather sideways. All right.

And then around when you have deal water um there would be a similar canopy over the drive. So when they handing off product that one actually worked pretty good. All right. Um from the commission on changing for example set was that part of the thing to there's a on the front of the around the bend at the traffic light you right there's a existing pylon sign and it's just basically saying that Dunkin Donuts drive through you know

is that going to change at all if at full sign. We do. We don't have plans to change it until this. Yeah. And it would just say basically just taking the existing plastic on it. Yeah. Take it off. Just put it on. So, uh physically it wouldn't that doesn't change. Okay. Um, so the three giants currently on the building actually have more square footage and then the two signs. And the drive-thru menu board is I think it's six 17 square ft. The other one was 48. So if you don't count the canopy, it's substantially

okay. And it's um the employees don't have to go out and change anything. um especially in the federal it's all done digitally electronically and it's for our that's what I don't pick out what I want to do but I can't say and you know I mean we get but there's no egress changes no as far as other public signs and different traffic. Bob, I got

All right. Any other questions or concerns from the planning commission? Um, just to mention the two wholeity signs or whatever they are. Um, was the variance was already approved for that. I came to you were going to ask about the variances. Yeah. So, the CBA uh approved variances um with the condition that the poll sign be brought into compliance with the applicable code at such time as any other activity on the parcel

um takes place that requires. So, so they would be grandfathered in based on fast approval. They they got approved sign say 10 years ago saying they got to change now changes to the PS time the various is issued for it now but at any point that changes in the future

other site plan changes other permit applicable permits that they need to obtain at that point. They would be subject to coming into compliance with whatever the code says at that time. At that time. So with gardening down Yes. Express Martin. So there's two businesses there. These guys are the Dunkin Donuts and then there's the owners which is the owners of the building which are Express. But if Express Mart does any exterior work, they're going to have to come in compliance with as far as these guys want to do. It's not going to impact them. That's that's basically what they said right there. Okay. Maybe I need you clarifying minutes on the seat.

I'm okay with anybody. I thought it was just a stress mark since they own the building. We'll go back and listen to it. I the way I recorded it was um whether the activity was being done by express mark or dump which I'm fine with either way. That's the way I understood just these guys don't own the building. So they really can't do any work on their building. So the express making an addition

the color of the building we didn't paint it. It's the same. It's like a light blue. So basically what you're looking for then variances for the purpose of replacing the pylon, facade signage, lighting, adding a drive through. So any other questions or concerns from our board? All right. Can I have a motion to approve the changes that Duncan wants to do to their build or not to their building, but the express building for making two signs and then the tamping? I'll make a motion to that. All right, Mike. Second.

I'll second. I refer to discussion. All right. All those in favor say I. I. Anyone opposed? Any discussions? All right. Motion in favor. You guys are actually going to hear one next month for Mr. Well, for the auto. All right. Should be all set. All right. Good luck. Thank you. Was there something else we had to talk about or was I think it's all taken care of. They came and took care of it. The uh something about the gas station. Yeah, we're all set. Take care. Yeah.

Oh, okay. So, it's all set. Okay. Thank you. All right. Um Well, should start one, two, go three kind of jump around a little bit. What was three? I think it was Elm Street where they own the various parking lot. Uh so you don't have that on anymore because it didn't pass. Oh, it didn't pass. Okay. So Oh, all right. Yeah. Number three. Okay.

All right. So that means we're going to number one on our agenda which is 1-3 comma subdivision and consolidation. Uh our attorney would like to say a few words.

Yeah. I just wanted to update the board. You you tabled it last meeting due to some things that were still pending. Um most recently the zoning board of appeals passed um the variances on condition that he complete the demolition project of 61 east a um recommendation would be that this approval is is conditioned on the same I spoke to Mr. Fragnoli just a few minutes ago the power and utilities are shut off there. The demo company should be in in the morning to apply for the permit. So can we still open questions? I haven't been have about

I haven't checked but and that you would continue cooperating with the zoning but he has got his rental permits up to date. He has been moving forward with the demolition that he agreed to do. So he's moved forward. Um, you did receive some correspondence from the community, right? We haven't had a chance to look at that. That can be given the weight that you deem appropriate after you reviewed it. But as corporation council for the city that we like the permit approval be conditioned on, I'm continuing with the zoning compliance just like the ZBA did. But other than that, we have no objection to them. Right. And I apologize, but I need to run to a medical. No, no, that's okay. That's all right. Thanks for that. Y

All right. Um Fragn, you're here, right? Yeah. You want to um update us on any anything that was new since last month? Update you? Well, I mean, are there any you know, we kind of got an idea last month what what you wanted to do and we had drawings that you want to see and you see them? I think we saw those. Anybody need to see those again commission? I think we can access our thing here. Yeah, we made no changes since the last

I have the large plans if somebody in the audience wanted you. Well, the only thing miss is the kind of survey map that I have. So that was your last week. I need to go back. Okay. You may want to go through again. [Music] We need to make sure that the audience when you present this plan to the audience on

here. Okay. If anybody can't see something when I'm talking to the board, just give me an hour to the board. This has been the uh subdivision uh proposal since uh we started. Mr. Fragnoli owns a series of properties at the end of the commando a as well as the commando restaurant with a former commando with no longer functioning. Um, it's our desire to basically break away three lots that used to be parking for the Commando Rescue. And these are currently all vacant lots. No demolition is required here. However, what we did is we broke off the the thinnest part of the Commando lot. There's an odd triangular lot over here next to the railroad tracks. It is our desire to put uh one of his uh you know low to moderate income development properties on here and it's the idea of building the seller uh to rent them as a landlord. Um what we did here while we were at it is that we don't know what the future of the commando facility is. Uh there's been some discussion with the codes office about taking off the front former bar area and continuing to develop it as housing. There's actually two apartments in there already if I'm not mistaken. Did you say?

Yeah, the second one. The two. So that is how we might develop that property in the future. That's not really part of this directly, but we understand that the neighbors would like to see the front of that uh room back a little bit. So, we have that does happen, you be coming back with specific plans for that. Right.

Yes. Now, in anticipation of this building just being torn down, um we I endeavored in this development plan to create two buffer zones that you see in yellow that allows us then to basically uh comply with the current zoning requirements for a multiple resident or a or a commercial facility as separated from residential property. So that's what the yellow is. Uh the two uh projects that we're developing on Commando, well actually one opens out on Barkley, the last one, and this one opens out on the Commando are all compliant with the current zoning setback requirements. Um as odd as they were, we were able to figure out how to do it. Now, you can see that all three of theirs are similar types of homes. And what it is is that he is going to start advertising them as soon as we get approval for this. And each of these are modular, not modular homes with a modular in concept from the standpoint is that you can start with the basic unit which is a two-story unit. It based on the desires and the financial capability of a client that's going to buy this. We can add on a breezeway. We can add on one and a half garage.

So these are single fans. there. It will be single family home. Exactly. Uh they're in the neighborhood of about 1,400 square ft. It probably be 1,800 if the breezeway's put on. And though the garage is additional square village, it doesn't really come this and they're going to be slam on gray. There's no room any that is pretty much it. Um, I'm desired in this proposal though to restructure the sidewalk and and work with the DPW group to bring this around here in a uh smooth area so that we can get the driveway into the three parking spaces that Mr. Frag only desired to maintain for the existing. And uh I'll see what else there is here. There will be new sidewalks in these each of these areas. of the sidewalk here. Um, each of these areas took advantage of the opportunity to sort of be comparable with the existing setbacks of the existing homes. Um, the new setback of I think 25 ft is something that's sort of inconsistent with all the other homes on full apartment commando over here. So, we took a look at those. We tried to improve upon most where we could but basically we are trying to maintain the flavor of the existing residential neighborhood where the setbacks are only about the north 8 to 12 14 ft back from the site. Each of these will have a driveway sufficient to have at least one car parked there and if there's a garage the other could park in the garage. If there is no garage, I'll have two spaces that they can find that until it's time that maybe the future owner decides to put up his own.

All right. Um, questions from the planning commission project. Was anything discussed about the clearances from the railroad? Are there is there anything? I haven't dealt with anything near. So that's it's up to you guys. It is It is far enough out of the rideway, but there should be buffer. Buffer. There should be a buffer. I think we mentioned that last time, too. Yep. There actually is a buffer right now. We're going to clean it up. What kind?

Uh there's full foliage there now. Actually, may have a big on this. I don't have that. The rest of those oak trees that are back there that have been falling down every time we get are they?

Yeah, the old trees have to go. Um there is a full intent of having a visual buffer between the railroad and also to help mitigate some of the sound coming through when the cars come through. The house is not any closer than the one next door. The nine next door. Basically the same Yeah. line, right? Yes. Not any closer than the correct 96, right? I would say closer. They're closer. Yeah.

Well, you're talking about this is the sidey yard. This is the front yard. Their front yard. It shows you that um if you can see that I'm smaller the 25% back is this one that I do so you know something right

you'll see with the porches with this these are a lot closer from a lot it is closer in this one corner but we have plenty of space to create the Think those big old just whatever those big old trees on the rail tracks. He said at least two of them in the past four or five years fall down in that parking lot. Those really got to get cleaned up out because we don't I mean I'm sure he doesn't want them falls. So yes, we're going to take care of anything that could be in danger.

And if those aren't on your property, they're in the railroads property and they're dangerous, make sure you let me know the railroad. Yeah, I think some of them I had one fall in 96 backyard from the railroad side. They're down. I tried I called Susana. I got no response. Unfortunately, once once they're on your property, I'll take them down. if you recommend some kind of a fence buffer.

But if the actual tree is on a fence, I think the planning commission would agree given the proximity of those tracks and the quality of life for the potential owners of that house. Um I think a a 10-ft privacy fence because it is also ordering a a general and and dust a 10 foot in the back only would would be uh probably good idea. Yeah, I think we I think we recommended that last time having Yeah. area for the shop protects everything. Yeah, that Yeah, that's fine.

That look a lot better too cleaned up. There's selling point because they do make a 10 foot ball section of right. So, am I correct? and the attorney who's still here, but did he say that the EVA approved this plan based on the fact that they have to continue to follow our you know our recommendations?

So the EVA did what what Mr. Lewis said is that this if you do guys so choose to do to make the approval you have some other documentation there you have have to review but um if you do make the approval that it is contingent on the staff coming a building permit being filed this week for East and u continued working with the code office and and the zoning office to clean up other areas of concern for Mr. Frank Williams has actually that was the conditions that Mr. here. Okay.

Is there any other I don't have any other problems with code office, right? Um I believe you still have outstanding inspections that Yeah, they're all done. Everything's done on Wednesday. Every inspection is this Wednesday. This Wednesday, everything. So then it should be contingent on passing those inspections on Wednesday as well. because he doesn't I mean he's filed his rentals but he he hasn't get he hasn't got issued yet because he still has outstanding stuff that has to be fixed. It's simple stuff he's got to fix it. Okay. And as well as the sidewalks, you mentioned the new housing throughout the new green space put in right now. It's all pavement correction. You're talking about from the sidewalk up to the uh

right where the houses are going proposed going. It's all out of your pavement or dirt right now. It's all it's not paved driveway. It's like just it was gravel but So now we're talking about the property, right? Well, talking about Yeah. I'm not sure if there's also there would be green space added new construction.

Oh, yes. Yeah. Yards. And as I think I mentioned last time too, which was critical, at least in my assessment, is that I maintained the 30-foot uh viewing angle at the corner so that there was no concerns with putting a tree up or fence post up there that would have got struck that needed. A very tight turn. I see the neighbors aren't here right now. the concerns and I mean if you look at the letter that they sent as well this

um some of the concerns that were brought up at the EVA meeting was the existing properties in in that neighborhood um they're the exterior of them are severely deteriorating and the interiors help some of them are as well that they be brought up the code as soon as possible. I believe he agreed to that from you guys the last time that he would fix up the other properties on that street. I think so. Yeah, I remember that. You talking about me? Yes. Five. Five. I think we should also work on the other ones that are surrounding, not just mine. I don't disagree with the mess. We have, you know, it's a mess.

Yeah. But remember in that corner would talk about you right now cleaning it up. I agree with you, you know. Yeah, I agree with you and we're working on it.

All right. So I mean on this letter the the residents had safety concerns. You know we're kind of talking about the railroad tracks being as close to that one property worry about the rail vibrations. I think the um the privacy fence would help a lot with the vibrations. I'm not sure it's not going to stop at I have to disagree with you. A fence is not going to help with vibrations several tons. Okay. It's a it's a visual thing basically bit of a sound barrier and a visual thing families and kids playing in the backyard there get curious about the train. Right.

They also had concerns about emergency access as far as uh you know ambulances and things like that. We're going to be fine to get around. But I'm just again I just got No, I I get Just letting you know that we we have professional drivers that have to take training and everything. They can get an apparatus around their corner. All right. Um environmental impacts. Again, they mentioned noise pollution, air quality. Uh what else here? Like I said, I haven't had a chance to really read this. Environmental impacts, storm water management. The noise was just due to construction. So I don't really

um as far as the impact on sewer and water. Matt Wedgie and uh both Matt Wedgie and uh Mr. Adams met with us when we had the overall group meeting of the county and both of them said the current infrastructure would would hold these three houses. still got that one. Um, yeah, they mentioned landscaping, which I think you're you're kind of addressing. Uh, you said you're going to plant grass around the three buildings. Is that correct?

Oh, yes. They'll all have yards. For one thing, I we want to make sure erosion control is satisfied and it just these storms like I just walked into here that uh those are severe enough where they could wash out three or four inches of top soil in no time, right? and then you'd end up having to clean up the sewer drains. All right. Well, again, I'll read through that. I have time. Um, any other concerns or questions from the commission for these gentlemen? Well, this letter addresses the driveway. There are driveways for Yes. All three locations,

correct? That was one of the concerns brought up on what I just noticed and I thought based on the images that you showed as there were parking on the street which on number 98 is that 25 ft from the corner of the house to the railroad or is that 25 ft to the right away? that is 25 ft from the back of the property line to where no house is supposed to be beyond that. The one corner of the garage, if the garage is put on there, would be something that would object to that. Now, the question is here is that we're going for all the variances based upon the intended construction. It would be something we would rather not have a new owner have to come back and go through the gauntlet just to put his garage on after he's done. So for uh subdivision which you guys al you guys did you prove that last time because you're proving the subdivision now as well.

Well it actually worked out better because the since since the ZBA awarded all variances all these lots now are ready to build. Okay. Right. And which they have to be for you guys to approve the subdivision. It's the way they indicated on the map. Right. That's so all all those area work. So it it's almost like DBA is taking a lead on this thing. So I guess my question is do you guys want to see any other changes other than what DBA initiated? Anything else that we we need to consider as a planning commission that maybe this is

um the impact on you know on the neighborhood. I think you got I think you made a very good point about the the fencing in the back and the noise. Is that something you can take care of? That lighting is something I think is important. What's currently there? Is there a sort of street light on? You can't really do nothing about the street lighting, but you can about the lighting on on the properties and you make sure that the backyard lighting doesn't infringe on the neighbors, you know, make sure it's a you know, things like that. So there's a street lay on the corner right in front of the restaurant, right? And then there's one the next house down going down Commando up.

I always thought about how individual properties. Yeah. Architecturally we basically any outside lights would be just either a light on either side of a doorway or if it's a second story light, you know, to light a deck of the backyard. would be directed downward toward the property. We're not being directed like in a fan tail so that it's keeping people away from the house next door. Right. And did you ever share what the modular unit are proposing for the base? Well, yeah, I did with

They're not concept. This is the house. There's the breezeway. There's the garage. I got off and said told you don't buy it. We bought it. Mr. B. Well, that would be the 98. This is what they're talking about 98. Yeah. But then this one might be a different configuration for the garage. One without a breezeway or just leave the house somewhere. This is actually punched out a little bit from the main house. But it is a little more distinction as opposed to just flat wall.

And then that's something else you guys could probably do too. Remember what you did with Mr. the one ongo? Yes. And it's because it is an older built neighborhood. I want to make sure it's not all oxygen. So if that's up to you guys make suggestion look at it because in the property you know tough it's tough down in that area needs to be kind of

yeah if you if you've driven down there at all then you checked out number 95 right next to it is like a raised ranch with two garages underneath it is boxy but it's probably 60s7s modern And then the next one to do it is like a cottage style. There's a few bigger and older homes this year, but sadly those are also the ones that in many cases need the most amount of work in terms of sale. Their future is questionable if they don't get it done. Go ahead.

Any other questions or concerns? No, I think we need single family homes. Um, I don't know how popular one next to the tracks is going to be, but people are living on that road right there already. So, I think overall I'd live in that one. Kind of off to yourself, you know? I mean, right. Right. Um, is there maybe Andy, this might be a question for you. Is there a way we can approve this also contingent on the same qualifications that the CGA imposed? Would that be appropriate or not?

Yeah. So, I was looking through references to uh general city law. Uhhuh. I just I just want to make sure if we do in fact approve this that we're in line with CBA. So, I guess that's my concern. Uh well home but one other rental property to keep up with in the past but she's considered right. So well to be clear here so we we're first looking to approve subdivisions and consolid adjustment consolidations. There's three of those. Um

and so I will take a vote. thought that as a whole it's considered a bonation and it involves parcels or glass and front edition. Um so you would first be voting on the subdivisions and then decide plan um I don't I don't see anything then on the subdivision. I suggest that you put some condition on it, you know, because that's got to be filed. Um I I think that's a straight up or down.

Okay. So I'm planning this different. All right, let's look at subdivisions first. Any questions about subdivided property? I believe it's four parcels. I'm sorry, three existing parcels 1-3, five and eight and and subdividing so that he can build on. Yeah. So specifically subdividing the parcel that is one-3 commando app that will be subdivided become two parcels the three would become into three commando and 98

B would be a lot line adjustment of three commando a new three commando a correct um that would be consolidated with parcel at currently at five commando, right? And that would become a new single parcel with the address five commando.

And then subdivision of eight commando become two parcels with addresses of 8 commando a and 95 barkab. So you're starting with um you're starting with one-3 commando five commando eight commando

right the result at the end if approved would be eight commando a 98 bartlet a and 95 bartlet a I'm confused because I thought the commando s there's Three of them through. Can we see that represent over here? Here, but this is on. It's on. So that's why it's this becomes one parcel and then these are the other two, right? Well,

there's only one property. There's two. Oh, there's two facing right now. Right. So, I think you've got one lot here, right? Now, you got one lot here. Right. Right. Those two lots are get divided. Okay. You got um you actually have three lots here. Three here at one. There's two here. Well, they want to make it in. There's three now. Oh, there's one. Three. There's five. And there's eight right here. Oh, no. I thought that was part three commandos right here. All right.

This is eight commando valley. Okay. If that makes sense. So eight commando is being split into eight commando and 95. That's facing this way. I didn't realize that makes sense. This is three commando and this is 98 BART. So one three commando now it's going to be 98 BAR because the street French is going to be on and this is going to maintain the command. You have two lot line adjustments here. Okay. because number number five is losing some land 10 feet and number three is is gaining 10 feet that

I'm sorry thanks for clarifying that uh so your question about uh lot line adjustment versus consolidation relating to five band so I've got it described as a lot line adjustment of Three command the new after the consolidation. Okay. Subdivision A lot line adjustment of three commando that then will consolidate with five commando.

Right. No, I I agree with you there. I think he cleared it all up. Oh, I might need to get some of that. Initially in the discussion, we were talking about subdivision issue and and included five.

I may have misspoken and in fact the lot line adjustment happens all the time of properties and it's just a matter of one's loss and the others being sorry you just want to identify that differently. Remember since five main street is involved with the equation or five command. Okay. All right. So, again, I haven't done these in a while, but what would what would be our order of uh attack here? Can we do the subdividing first? Yeah. So, I uh I neglected to put on the agenda um I should have listed A, B, and C, okay,

of each of those. Just want to make sure you know on the agenda. Um and I'm putting that I don't have it on paper the way that we'll look at it a year from but we need to take each of the subdivisions. Yeah. So A would be subdivision of 13 Commando to become two parcels with addresses of three Commando and 98 Buckland.

Let's do that first. Can I have a motion to subdivide three commandos to Commando and 98? I'll make that motion. Motion second. Any further discussion? All right. All those in favor of subdividing one free bando into three bando and 98 borrow say I

I oppose. Any extensions we got a done? I know what would be your next step. B is a lot line adjustment of three commando AB that that consolidates um with a parcel with five commando app to become a single parcel with a new address of five and commando app. So it's just a lot line adjustment between those two address. Right. Yeah. So am I not describing that right? When you say consolidated just so basically all all all three commander is doing is gaining tech

is a 10 foot line adjustment for commercial buffer. Yeah, that's all. Jim, do you want to make that motion? I made that motion. Second, Mike. Further discussion. Are those favor making that block line adjustments? Jim, so eloquently Davis say I abstension. Okay, we got B. All right, give us the next order of business. C is subdivision of 8 Commando A to become two parcels with addresses of 8 Commando A and 95 Bartlett AD.

Okay. So, can I have a motion to approve the subdivision of 8 Commando AB creating 8 Commando and 95? I like that motion. Tony second. I'll second. Further discussion. All right. All those in favor say I. I. I. Anyone opposed? Any anybody abstain? All right. That motion was approved. All right. Now, what's next? So, now you're looking at site plan review. Okay. For the three properties. Okay. Um,

and Roy, are we looking at a single site plan or are we looking at three individuals? One site plan for the for the whole project. Because one house would require it. The reason why we're having a site plan review is because of the sheer size. All right. Um, I guess first of all, do we want to put any stipulation on anything we want to make sure gets done in line with the site plan review? the three things that we talked about that the building permit for the demo work. Okay. On the Elm Street property um fence 98

Bartlett between um the property line the common area of railroad track and that all the inspections pass on Wednesday. He said Wednesday. Yeah. Okay. So if I'm hearing that corre correct you're saying you want approval or the east project is successfully completed that there's a buffer and the building permit be in the office by Wednesday. Right. Building permit be in the office by Wednesday. I'm sorry. Are you saying the date of the 9th? Yes. Wednesday. July 9th. A building permit uh submitted to the um code office by Wednesday and the building be

building east. Let the work be completed. Let the work be completed. We just leave it like that. Prior to construction, right? Prior to prior to Yes. Okay. But as soon as possible. Yeah. I'm not ready. That'll do. I just bought No, I think it should be a real fence between the railroad and property. The backyard of 98. Do we have to specify the distance or just the property line? It'd be right on it though. I would put that right on. That's what I want to know. Yeah. As far as the railroad tracks right there. Well, there's a there's a a rightway there that they can't go over anyway. Every railroad has a

as close as they can get. It has to be on on on their Yeah. I believe there's currently a rusty fence all the way along. Yeah. And I would approve a a 10 foot privacy fence for that one. specifically call a 10- foot pract because it is a residential zone. Okay. You're only allowed six. Yeah. If you guys say 10 foot, the 10 foot goes just because it's the tracks behind. Yes. I mean, because technically it's it's it's buffering not only the tracks, but behind it is a a GI district. So, you're really providing that little not only can the tracks get loud, but so can business behind it.

Yeah. Okay. And the third thing, Jim, was inspections passed and the outstanding inspections. The passing I think we got half them done. We did we did half of them. They were all approved. Some of them were finished. There was there was I'm not sure which ones didn't, but yes, he has them scheduled Wednesday. Okay. And I don't think there was anything major. There was just a clean up. There was a couple smoked it, but we went through it preins inspected. It's not like there's any violations out there. We got to make that clear. Okay. But those have to be completed in order. Yes. Yes, I'm ready. Okay. Anything else, J saw that we need to add? Those are the three I saw.

The only question I had the contract mentioned sidewalks. That's something we have to specify that we want the sidewalks actually done. Because that one has sidewalks. So make that our fourth requirement that the sidewalks be completed. just say it's for the drying. It's the driving. Isn't that within the rightway of the of the city though? It's not. It is, but

other municipalities that the EPW builds them and then the owners have not. No, I think my sidewalk. So, too else you guys think we need to think of. So let me go back. So you got one demolition that is there a completion date for that before he starts work on these new ones before the new project. But I would also put a drop the drop date on that.

Um what's the seven? I would give until September to get that bill out of September one. September 1st needs to be done later than September one, right? I want that building done a week ago. I was haunting. We kept saying there's no left building done. I don't know. I think September's reason. I agree with you. Building permits submitted by uh July 9th. Correct. Correct. Right. Yep. that a buffer fence 10 foot buffer fence would be installed in between the property I think was 98 barlet and the railroad tracks

and that's the only thing that you're proving for a 10ft buffer everything else can only be on a sixoot six foot okay so uh so the 10T privacy buffer fence is between 98 Bartlett and as tracks tracks yeah the backyard that's done after construction yeah all inspection pass all outstanding inspection inspection completed completed before uh satisfactory right prior to and then sidewalks be um built uh based on the plan so it was submitted I don't think there was anything else which is also after construction because you don't want heavy equipment

driving board that sidewalks be completed after construction of the properties prior to final inspection I But file inspection we don't want to get into needs and math. It's not true. No, it's just I don't want to play a bunch of Yeah. The only other thing we discussed with the lighting um making sure the lighting is just a normal lighting. Yeah.

Just make sure they follow um city code as far as lighting. Are any of these going to be I got to ask this. Are any of these houses going to I don't but know what you guys are not I should probably ask this before. Are any of them going to be EV ready or or ready for solar? uh well the the ones that uh will be in the right direction in order to receive them and we'll we'll put a service uh outlet up in the attic so that they can tie and do it directly and not have to right I think it's a requirement it's just people like to know that stuff

okay all right anything else you guys think that we need to add here that covers it just want to get these things up before they require sprinkler single panel wouldn't be a good idea just for the Yeah, we got to keep it for beginning buyers. Not not the head of the code to deal with the buyers. All right. So, can I have a motion of who site plan review contingent on the now we have five requirements? I guess

read demolition of the state of battle building permit submitted by Wednesday, July 9th. Uh work oh maybe this work is completed but was supposed to be complete by September one. This a demo, right? Do we have Okay. So, I'm sorry. I've got six. Then got demolition, building permit, fence, uh, buffer, privacy fence installed, just at 98. Okay.

Outstanding inspections by Wednesday. By 9th of July. Yep. uh sidewalk sidewalk completed um after prior inspection. That's a good way to put it. Prior inspection lightning following six. Okay. Six thing. Yeah, that's what I Anything else you guys think we need to add. What about fixing up the exteriors that house that neighborhood? That was that was something that the the neighbors were very clear about last meeting. All right. Did ZBA implement anything like that on their approval? They were more concerned about this other stuff permanent stuff, but I didn't hear what

Well, fixing up the existing properties on on this area, this town. The the neighbors were very concerned about that and they're not here at right. They were very adamant about number five, the exterior five. Okay. Just uh Well, I'm more concerned with that, too. It's going to reflect my reset. But I'm also concerned about the rest. But you said you could fix it up at that. That's right. Yeah. He's even said he can do. So I'm I'm concerned about the other ones. We going to do are we going to focus on that? Yes. We are going I'm trying to get money from Toma right now to work on that whole neighborhood. Okay. So it's five the only property we're talking about here. That's our other ones in the neighborhood as

well. But we're talking about for this just five man. Let's five and a half the other where his apartments are that go upstairs that side where the kitchen is the old the old that needs some vinyl siding on it too. It's just you want to um include actually the outside doesn't look so good. This said he wants to do it so we can add it. Okay, let's add two five. It's five. Uh I'm not saying I disagree. some do I follow that month? I agree with that. Of course you won't come out. I hope I'm including

you are you're included in it right now. You can let me fix up the exterior of that building. I think what we're doing is adding these six stipulations. Okay. And the sixth one was to improve five commando like you're saying right there that would be the seven to yeah I just was asking but if not then so there's seven stipulations so what needs to be on the final building

has to be and is it out of code now is that what it is it yeah it It needs it. It needs exterior improvement uh vinyl sighting or paint you need something. Right now it's just single single. So we need to improvements that five commando have um in line with either painting or what's the second vinyl sighting or vinyl sighting um adding.

Yeah, exactly. All right. Anything else you guys want to add to the second? We got seven items. Well, I think for um five I don't think we could say uh vinyl sighting. I think we could stick it with the code that there's peeling paint that exterior treatment. Okay. Can't be treated. Yeah. Leave it because that that is in the code. That's that's that's what the code says. All right. Let's stay in line with what we're changing.

Item seven. We're going to address it and make the correction. What we said, we're going to say instead Yeah. Instead of painting vinyl, we'll say exterior um protection treatment. No lose paint. Stay in line with the code. That way a little flexibility as far as how the chooses to how it looks. All right. Anything else as far as a site item do you think you guys would like to see adding before we done this? Joe, if you just what do you want to go through any of the items? Um I guess

under there take a look. is you don't believe that we've covered them addressed.

Okay. So, I will note in the minutes that the commission reviewed all of the considerations uh items one through 11 and uh that the approval and findings will be consistent with me as we impose certain conditions as outlined. Also, if you could word it that you're approving three new single family owner occupies homes.

Let's get that in there, too. Was the approval is for three single family owner occupied homes. That was another concern that the mayor, right? Yeah, I hope that makes sense. Get the way out of that. All right. Anything else you guys should have eight? So, can I have a motion approve the site plan review of those eight contingencies that we've added um to the properties on Mano AB and Bart?

Second. Seconded. I um Jim, any further discussion? All those in favor of approval of the site plan review for this project say I. I. Any opposed? I motion carried. Thanks for your patience. We want to make sure I was raising my hand. Can I just get an an element of clarification on those contingencies there to do? You talked about tingent upon the building permits being issued. Right. It's the building permit for the demolition of that one structure. Right. Correct. Yeah. I won't even be done with the house designs by July 9th. I just want to make sure that it's

I think we gave it until September first. So that's a demo. The permit's got to be in by Wednesday. Permit has demolition. What's the cost? Demolition. What's the cost? What's What's Mr. Bers charging? I don't know. I asked Bersan, you want me to bring you a check? No, you're good. You're all set. It's probably going to be 30 or 40 grand to take that building. That's between me and him, but what's the permit? I know what a building cost to take that. I know that. We just took two down. I don't think it's worth 134 demolition permit. What's the demolition permit cost? Based on the cost of construction.

So it's whatever he charges you. We It's based me I think he quoted me $13,000 to that building done because it was just a garage. That's what he quoted me. So based on that, if you give me a copy of that code, it's 13. is probably going to be a hundred couple hundred dollars. Okay. Because that's what I'm going to be on tomorrow morning. I'll be on that tonight. When I leave here, I'm going to be buzzing him and I want to meet him in the morning and I will be there. I got to see his quote though. You got what? I got to see his quote. Okay. Right. Yeah. Because I because we just we just took one down of a similar size that was substantially more than that. Did he do it?

Uh he didn't. No. No. Right. So did it. Sure.

That's all. Thank you. I just want the permit actually. Actually, truthfully, we just want the eyesore down on these. Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm going to work with him to get it done. Okay. 13 or 20, who cares? Let's get the building done. Yeah. Yeah. I don't care. Yeah. It'll be filed tomorrow. Our minutes are going to be tabled Xbox. There's some changes that can be made. So, we're going to vote on the minutes from the last one's meeting at our August meeting. Did you Did they approve? Did you guys approve this already? Yeah, we just asked the question. So, in August, we approve our June meeting for this month's meeting. Okay. So, the only other thing we have left is adjournment. Can I get a motion to adjourn?

I'll make that second. All right. So you guys, August I just looked it up on August 4th or August 4th is our next meeting.