City Council - Regular Meeting
The City Council discussed the upcoming Buc Days Festival, received updates on the city's credit rating outlook, and addressed allegations regarding the Nueces River Authority and hotel development projects. The council also considered appointments to various boards and committees and approved amendments to the city's drought contingency plan.
About this meeting
- Government Body
- City Council
- Meeting Type
- City Council
- Location
- Corpus Christi, TX
- Meeting Date
- April 14, 2026
Transcript
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Good morning, everyone, and welcome to City Hall, and welcome to Council Chambers. I'd like to call this meeting to order. This morning,
our invocation will be given by deacon Richard Longoria with Saint Helena of the True Cross of Jesus.
Holy god, holy mighty one, father, son, and holy spirit, we ask that your graces come upon our city council, on the individuals, and all our city, those who work for Corpus Christi, and those who live here in every way. We ask for your blessings of kindness, grace, mercy. May all friction and jealousy among our council be ended in every way. May they work together for the goodness of our people, for the goodness of our city. May you come upon them and send your holy spirit upon all our city council members and all who are here today, and grant them the wonderment.
May they all reflect the light of Jesus Christ upon each other and upon all who are in Corpus Christi. We ask your blessings and your mercy upon them. We pray this in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit. Amen.
Amen. Thank you so much, deacon. And this morning, our pledge of allegiance will be to the flag of The United States and to the Texas state flag will be led by Mallory Rayna. She is a senior at Harold t branch academy, top 10 in her class, and she is in the paramedics program.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. The Texas pledge. Under the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to the Texas one state under god, one and indivisible.
Mallory, thank you, and good luck in your studies. Miss Huerta, would you please call the roll?
Mayor Paulette Guajardo? Present. Council members Roland Barrera?
Here.
Sylvia Campos? Here. Eric Antu will be late. Gil Hernandez? Here. Kaylen Paxson?
Here.
Everett Roy.
Here.
Mark Scott. Here. Carolyn Vaughn. Here. City manager Peter Zanoni.
Present.
City attorney Miles Risley. Here. Mayor and council, a quorum of the council and the required charter officers are present to conduct the meeting.
Thank you, miss Watson. Section e is our city manager's comments and update on city operations. We have one item, mister Zanoni.
Yes. We do. Good morning, mayor and mayor and members of the council and the community. We have one item for the city manager's report, and that will be an overview of the eighty eighth annual Buck Days Festival, which will be celebrated this year from April 30 through May 10. And so as we know, Buck Days has been around for a number of years.
This Buck Days will be eighty eight years since it was first started in 1938, and it's one of Corpus's largest community events, and it draws tens of thousands of visitors from the entire Coastal Bend region. So it's held at the Bayfront, and the event has something for everyone. As Johnny Filipello will tell us here in a moment, there's rodeos, concerts, a carnival, and parades, and much more. An important note is that since 1996, the Buck Commission has awarded 2,600,000.0 in scholarships to local students, and those monies come through the Buck Days celebrations. So this morning, have Johnny Filipello.
He's the president and CEO of the Buccaneer Commission. And, Johnny, thank you for being here. He's gonna give us some background on some of the prior Buck Days that we've had here, and then talk more importantly about this year's Buck Days event. So I'll turn it over to you, Johnny.
Thank you. Thank you, Peter, and and mayor council. It's an honor to speak to you guys today. We're excited about the upcoming Buccaneer Days Festival. Before I get into this year's events, I do wanna do a just brief recap of our successes from last year. We we typically do this once a year. 112,000 unique visitors participated in Buck Days last year. Of those 112,000, almost 20,000 were from out of our market, so out of out of the Corpus Christi region. You can see the makeup down at the bottom of this slide. We have people coming from all over The United States and certainly San Antonio, Rio Grande Valley, Houston are our big drawers of folks for the event as well.
And then our makeup, when you look at Place for AI, it truly is a makeup of the Coastal Bend and and a reach of of folks that are attending. What I'm really excited about is this is a pretty new information. We just conducted a, economic impact report with tourism economics. And so of those 20,000 folks that came from out of market, they brought about $10,000,000 of impact with them to our event. That's not counting the other a 100,000 or so people that participated in the in the region.
So really excited about those numbers. Buckdays also contributes to about 555 jobs during the eleven day period. And then our tax base, the local and state taxes, about 600,000 is generated off of those those 20,000 people coming from out of town. So that's pretty hot off the press information. We just finalized that study and really proud of those numbers.
And then more importantly for organization, it's what are we doing to support education in the Coastal Bend. At the end of last year's event, we were able to award over 364,000, a lot of that in the form of scholarships to local students. But we've also helped the museums, the science and history museum, the art museum, Harbor Playhouse. There's a variety of ways that we we reach those those different students in in what we're doing. And then our leadership program takes on 20 high school seniors from Kingsville to Senton and everywhere in between to really learn.
Then at at the end of Buck days, we'll award a little over a $100,000 to those those folks as well. So as we dive into this year, really excited to take two traditions that have typically fallen on the last Saturday of the event, the the night parade or sorry, the children's parade and the five k, and we're moving those to this coming Saturday. We're we're partnering with the city of Portland on that and utilizing 5th And Elm as kind of the center point to make it a kickoff regional event for the community to come in and enjoy. We'll have a cowboy breakfast that morning, free food, live music, fun for everyone to to come together. And really just trying to say, hey, we're all part of Buck Days.
Come come be prepared. It's it's coming up for the whole community and kinda taking that first that that children's parade that gets lost on the back end and really giving it its own footing, for this. So really excited if you don't have anything going, it's April 18, this Saturday, come out and enjoy with us. The night parade, the the the big tradition that has been with us from the very beginning is April 25. The stadium show will again be back at Buck Stadium.
We'll start there, go down Leopard and end on the bay Front. And our friends at Chris six will be broadcasting that live as well on on their their stations for the evening. So, I look forward to having each of you guys participate in that with us as well. But, numbers are up on both parades. So, really excited about the number of people coming out.
When I talk come early, stay late, there's a lot happening over the course of the eleven days. April 30 to May 10, the first weekend, we partner with Crawfish for a Cause, who supports charities to have a big crawfish festival. There'll be 5,000 folks right there on the bayfront inside the footprint. Our shopping in Stripes Carnival, shopping's really continued to grow year over year. We've got a lot of great vendors coming in into the exhibit hall for that.
The STEAM Expo, I'll touch on even more in a little bit, but it's really taken off with a lot of the out of town participation you see in in things. And then I mentioned earlier, the Science and History Museum and Art Museum. For the price of admission, you get those two museums as as part of the the attraction as well. So when you come to Buck Day's, stay all day. You go check out the museums, come shop and enjoy the live music.
And then barbecue showcase, our last weekend, we've got 10 of the best barbecue joints in the whole region for you to sample barbecue that last Saturday and and make it a a fun experience. But I'd I'd think it's important to stress here at the top right corner, 51 bands will perform with most of those being local over the course of the eleven days of the event. So, we're supporting the music community very much so with with their activations as well. And then, western sports, of the the mainstays since the early nineties. PBR will again bring the Velocity Tour finals here May.
Again, that's one of three championship events they host throughout the year with Las Vegas and Fort Worth having the other ones. We're really proud that the city of Corpus Christi, the branding, the mantra, all roads lead to Corpus Christi on a 30 tour stop are mentioned at every one of those tour or every one of those competitions leading up to our event in Corpus Christi. And then Rodeo Corpus Christi is May. We're part of PRCA this year, which puts us there's 800 and some odd PRCA rodeos. We'll be the twelfth ranked rodeo in all of pro rodeo this year, which is pretty cool for our size market.
We'll be broadcast on Cowboy Channel, which has about 200,000 eyeballs watching for that, for all five of the performances. And one of the really neat things that I think is showcasing our community to the western sports world is we'll be hosting the Association of Rodeo Committees conference during the event this year. So there'll be about a 150 rodeo organizers, executives from all over, from Calgary, Canada to Houston and everywhere in between coming to the Omni, participate in the conference, attending our event. And so it's a nice way to let let let the rest of the Western sports world see see what we're doing down here in Corpus Christi. The concert series expanded this year.
The PBR nights will have concerts as well. We're really excited about this lineup. You can see there's just about something for everyone to enjoy on on that lineup as well. I'll point out the the May 8 concert with Midland sailing super fast, but that's also military night and we've got some really great things in store within AS Corpus Christi and the Coast Guard and and folks to recognize some individuals during that. We'll save it for that evening, should be a great night to check out.
The STEAM Expo, this started about six years ago, a concept that Sitko and us came up with saying, let's do something called rodeo robotics rodeo weather, and it's just exploded. You can see all the great partners that have jumped on board with us. We'll have robotics competitions both the first weekends and second weekend. We've added lot of new things to the programming. An aerial drone competition for young people that's already sold out in in new competitors.
It's, I think, in its second year in in existence, but there's a lot of excitement around it. And then we've added what's called VEXU, which is a university robotics competition this year. So we'll have teams from the University of Michigan, University of Central Florida, A and M College Station, A and M Kingsville, and a few others sprinkled throughout coming to compete in our robotics competition right here in in the coastal bend on the university level. Really excited about those things. We've got some great four h programming as well, food challenge, public speaking, those type of things.
Overall, about 90,000 will be awarded to these young people as we compete in in those different segments. Ag and industry awareness days. Last year, we did one day of this. It filled up super fast with third graders coming and learning about agriculture and just the variety of things that Coastal Bend has to offer. This year, we've got the Heart Research Institute, we've got the aquarium involved.
We obviously have a lot of different agriculture aspects, but we'll have 1,500 students from all over the Coastal Bend coming in and doing tours on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday of of that event as well. The STEAM day open to the public with the price of admission at the Science and History Museum. Last year, had about a thousand students come in and just engage and immerse in science and technology. Mad Science will be back. Anum Kingsville's engineering department will have a lot of programming and Tesla will even be there doing some stuff with our students.
So if you have a youngster, third grade to high school, bring them and let them have a fun time on that May. It's a lot of fun for them. Couple of other regional partnerships we formed this year. ANAM Corpus Christi is gonna have ISFEST at Buckdays. So the first Friday with PBR, we'll have 1,500 students enjoying the PBR bull riding event and concerts to follow with that.
We're gonna have a cookout for all those students right on the Bayfront that Friday night as well just to to have some fun with them and and really bring them in to be part of our community as well. Aingham Kingsville will have had the Lena night on May 7. They'll have a huge group of alumni come over, have a reception, but then they'll also have a ton of student involvement. We'll have their marching band out front playing as guests come. They'll have ballet florico, mariachis, all all sorts of activities going on showcasing what their school has to offer to the Coastal Bend as well.
So, really excited about engaging them. And then, Del Mar College has taken another approach with us this year. They have dress up days on their campuses but then on leading up to the event on the twenty eighth, twenty ninth and thirtieth, they're gonna have pancake breakfasts at each of their campuses. We'll push out more information, but their culinary program is just gonna serve pancakes to the public and get folks excited about Buck Day's coming up as well. So, really really pleased with what they're they're offering there.
And then the newest thing we're actually gonna push out press on this tomorrow is Buck Days Build. We've partnered with Habitat for Humanity. We're gonna build the frame of a house right there on the festival grounds. And then once the over the eleven days, once it's done, we'll move it to where the foundation is and let the home be finished. It's a fundraiser that we've started a commitment.
Hut eight, our our presenting sponsor, has has pledged us a starting amount and we're promoting with QR codes at the festival and on our website, for folks to make donations. Our goal is to help fully fund this house, for a single mother and her children to move into as soon as we can get it accomplished. But really really proud of the partnership we're able to come up with with Habitat on on this as well. So you can see there's a a ton happening, a a lot going on each year. It's how can we do it better, and how can we bring more people into the tent to work with us and and all here and, look forward to having the whole community out during Buck Days.
If you have information or need information, buckdays.com is the best location for that. And I'd be remiss without talking about the RTA, our transit authority does an amazing job of shoveling folks from all the outer line parking lots, but then also helping us on parade night with those disabled being able to catch a ride to their bus center on on Leopard Street and then being able to enjoy the parade in their footprint. So really a lot of great partners, over a 100 plus companies that come together to make it happen and 300 volunteers and then the city staff. Y'all's team is always top notch on helping make it all come together. So thank you guys.
With that
Thank you, Johnny. And congratulations on eighty eight years. This is amazing. And we appreciate the numbers. I would love to maybe ask you to to email those to the council Absolutely. Or that presentation.
Yeah. Absolutely.
Thank you.
Thank you
so much. Yes. Yeah.
Yeah. Good job, Johnny. That's great. Yeah. Thank you, Johnny, for that. And, mayor, that concludes the city manager's report.
Great. Thank you, Peter. It's 11:48, so I think we're gonna go ahead and start public comment a little early. As we begin the meeting, I'm gonna go ahead and take a moment to address rules of decorum. The council Chambers is a public I'm sorry, place of public business, a forum for civic discussion, decision making, and service to the people of Corpus Christi. It is not a stage for personal attacks, disruptions, Corpus or vulgarity. We will not tolerate violations of decorum. We're here to do the people's work, so we'd like to proceed in that spirit. If you would like to speak on a specific agenda item during its discussion, you do not need to sign up beforehand. I will ask for public comment when the council considers the item.
At that time, you may come up to the podium and speak. At this time, I'll ask our city attorney, Miles Risley, to review the council meeting rules of decorum, which will be displayed on the television screens above.
All citizens must be must be courteous, polite, and respectful of one another, including the city council and city staff. The mayor and council members shall be referred to by title and or title surname. All remarks must be addressed to the mayor and city council and not to the council members as individuals. Citizens are only permitted to speak on city related subject matter. Speaking on any non city related matter is prohibited. Loud, boisterous, profane, or obscene language or behavior is not allowed. Citizens must refrain from any disturbing noise, demonstration, or other act disrupting to the city council business.
Thank you, mister Risley. In person comments are limited to three minutes, for call in or Webex video speakers. Corpus Christi residents receive up to three minutes and non residents up to one. A visible timer position near the city secretary's desk will help manage the allotted time. If you have a petition or relevant information, please prove present it to the city secretary before speaking.
Our first speaker is, Tom Taglaboo.
Good morning. Tom Taglabue, District 2. I'm asking the city council to end the chaos that continues to embarrass the city statewide. Courts have ruled the removal process not legal. You knew it, staff knew it, but no one was willing to prioritize reputation, the financial burdens involved, and let the electoral process take its course in just a few more months.
I don't think it should ever have gotten this far. Do any of you honestly think this process is gonna be resolved before the November elections? Do you have such little faith in the integrity of the local, state, and federal law enforcement professionals that you're willing to turn your back on their findings to score a political point? There are so many critical issues facing this city. Take a step back and think what's in the best interest of this city and the residents long term.
Is the chaos worth it? Personally, I think it's a sad reminder of how vindictive and nasty politics can be. It's hard enough to be a public servant, and this process fosters mistrust, weakens faith in our leaders, and causes damage that will linger. Please stop, make peace, choose democracy, continuity, and justice, and get back to your roles as policymakers.
Thank you.
Thank you, mister Taglicher. I'd just like to remind everyone that there is no applause just to keep our decorum. I know. That's okay. Thank you for understanding. And just so everyone knows, have about well, we have 47. 47 people just speaking today. Not necessarily all in person, but 47 total. Bradley Bartleson.
About presentation to feed up there. There we go. Okay. Good morning. I'm Brad Bartleson, Corpus Christi.
Lack of strategic planning yields crisis mode operation dealing with only with what's urgent and important. Perhaps you're right now thinking, why are we listening to something that's not urgent? False exaggerated statements are assigned. A councilman stated that he is unaware of any potential negative effects substitution of desalination in place of Inner Harbor desalination in a meeting called workshop instead of Inner Harbor Inner Harbor Rally meeting. We see the effects of anxiety, reactive thinking, staff turnover, erosion of trust, and resource waste.
Truth number one is we have and expect no residential demand increase. Number two is that the city oversold the water. Number three is that projects other than Inner Harbor were slow walked or not investigated at all. Our water dashboard is a status report, not a strategic plan. I provided this strategic outline for this last October with planned capacities going forward and sales limited to 85%.
Without control of sales, we are without a rudder, subject to whatever walks in the door. Our plan to filter by prospective users, by employees per MGD, percent revenues and higher percent higher management to remain local, what we need. The flawed bootstrap deal consumes 600 homes over the water, has four employees instead of 100, and hundreds of millions of dollars going offshore to Nigeria. The cost details of projects are not still shared, and comparison is sketchy, undermining trust. It's time to also share that the city revenue is a motivator in project decisions.
The signs include heavy promotion of Inner Harbor while knowing TCEQ permit granting was a dereliction of duty. Good news is that we have options, and you can perform strategy, and you can lead. Such Such as using all the political influence and perhaps federal money to make Barney Davis happen. You can easily proceed to let the lakes fill up instead of evaporating everything that comes in with floating solar for free. And you have more water now using storm water collection as per my home system.
You see up there, 800 gallons in the past week. We can avoid the trifecta of salt, nutrients, and temperature causing hypoxia in our bays by using this water. And more water now can be had by not wasting the water running underneath our Mary Roads pipeline. Thank you, and may God bless.
Thank you, mister Bartleson. Clint Mericol? Clint? Yeah.
Do I just start? Just go?
Yes, sir.
Okay. Clint Miracle, Corpus Christi. I try to emulate retired navy captain John Butterfield, founder of Beach to Bay Relay Marathon and former executive director of the president's fitness council. I have history with the Corpus Christi Roadrunners. I'm the founder of what is now Corpus Christi Triathlon Club.
Last year, June 17, I spoke here about fairness referring to a permit for a run September 1, believing assistant parks and recreation director Sergio Gonzalez was hindering. Recently, swimmers at Collier Pool have asked about a swim, run, swim event that I have directed for over twenty six years. Everyone should be entitled to the same privileges that vFITZ, Victor Bentancourt gets from city officials. Sergio Gonzalez is apparently in cahoots with vFIT, then taking advantage of Corpus Christi Triathlon Club. Examples, July 7, Corpus Christi Triathlon Club president asked my approval to have a swim run swim like mine yet evasive on details.
He mentioned the club was approached to have one at Billwit Pool Labor Day Weekend. Heard nothing more about it until August 6 at club meeting where we were told Sergio's idea, but only date available was Monday, September 1, same day and time as my run. I let them know my objections and the reasons why. Someone asked the pool rental fee. He nervously responded, don't think there is one. I pay pool rental. I said, it's still going ahead with it. VFIT should not be involved. He said he asked, okay. Without VFIT, replied, September 1, skeptical me drove to Bill Bill Whitt Pool after my run.
Sergio Gonzalez, v Fit, Victor Bentoncourt, and their equipment tray trailer were all there. The name of the vent was mine. It conflicted with an event of mine on my birthday. Parks Recreation should have the invoice and proof of payment from Corpus Christi Triathlon Club. Their entry was also two and a half times more than mine. Fair is fair. If pool rental is waived, I could avoid charging participants, making it easier to put on. None of this seems coincidental or fair to me. People lose jobs with this kind of conduct.
Thank you, mister Clint. Councilman Paxson. Thank you.
Peter, this is the second time that this community member has come to us asking for fair consideration for his events. I believed that last time we had staff look into it, and now he's back again. If we could please have a direct conversation with him, determine what's what his details are, and see how we can make it correct.
Yeah. We can do that, Councilman.
Today?
Yep. That's
something. Yep. Councilman Hernandez.
Yes, Peter. This is multiple times where we had issues with this v fit organization. I'd like to have some documentation as to how we're how we're treating them versus other organizations. I know that they've participated, you know, in when we had the COVID thing a long time ago. But if we're giving them special treatment, then that's not fair. So I I wanna make sure that parks and recreations, whether it's Robert or Sergio, give us a report on on how that's being administered. We need to make sure we treat people fairly. Thank you.
Okay. We'll look into a councilman.
Thank you, sir. Abel Sanchez.
Thank you, mayor and council members. I have some documents. I turn them into the secretary. Mhmm. So briefly, as a son of Corpus Christi, I found that there's a lot of concerns with our work.
And listening to some of the residents behind me have some very interesting statistics and numbers, which I do not personally have. But I have presented a document with the option to deregulate the city water billing company. And it's very simple. There's five basic steps. And if there's any questions I would like to answer, This is a very simple problem that has a very quick resolution.
Corpus Christi has a very high temperature, very high sun and humidity. With all that excess moisture, we can actually draw that from the atmosphere and purify it for clean, safe drinking water. That technology does exist. So I'm just pretty concerned as a resident here of what our plans are to do moving forward. That's really all I have to say.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We appreciate. Thank you. Saundra Meyer.
Okay. Saundra Meyer, District 4. You all know I come from an audit background. And as an auditor, we love policies and procedures. Policies and procedures will keep you out of trouble.
I have a feeling I've tried to hint at some of the ethics rules that y'all need to be complying with to stay out of trouble, and I'm almost thinking that maybe it's gotten to a point that y'all are embarrassed to go ahead and bring up the issue. So today, I wanna put it out public record because for transparency and public trust, everybody needs to know that there are three of y'all that have gotten donations from either David Ajit and his hotels or and or Doug Ellison, the attorney. You need to disclose those. Councilman Gil Hernandez, he chaired the audit committee. The city auditor returned to work.
On August 28, the same day, the Allegation was assigned to the auditor. The next day, he receives a campaign donation from mister Ajit's hotel, September 30 when the lawsuit is filed. Is Doug Allison is the attorney that worked with the auditor also. He gave or I'm sorry. The Ajit David's hotels gave mister Hernandez a campaign donation then.
The proper thing is to say, I've had these donations. Ethics policy says, I cannot deal with this. And I've quoted the top two things at the top. Eric Cantu is when in January, he received two campaign contributions from Doug Allison and the mister Adjeet's hotel. On the sheet, I've written down which hotel it is.
Kaylin Paxson, this tears me up because we want you to do well. We we trust you. Please disclose that you got two campaign donations also from the hotels. It is not fair for y'all to be complaining about paying paying donations and not disclosing conflicts of interest when y'all have some that's very relevant, it will protect you if you disclose it. It's still not time or there's still time.
Everybody makes mistakes. Everybody may forget about the policies and procedures, but this is important for y'all, please. And like I said me and my church members, we want you to do well. We want all of you to do well. We don't want people getting kicked off the council. Thank you.
Thank you, miss Myers. Kenneth Castro. Mayor. Councilman Kunjoo.
Miles, I got a question. What's the maximum donation we'll receive that we can't vote on an issue? Is it 2,500 or how much is it? Do you know? Is there any kind of guidelines?
Can you
turn on your microphone, please?
I believe the ethics ordinance refers to certain items at at 2,700. I have to look up that particular provision.
There's a there's a there's a limit.
It's with respect only to a certain specified Yeah. Subsection.
And I'm with you. I I I think I think everybody should close that. That's what I did. I put on my financial report. I really like the city of Corpus Christi to be just like Austin, Texas. Everybody only gets $300 per person. I mean, you know, I don't think I don't think, you know, all these donations for a city's seat, you know, like a marriage raise, a half $1,000,000. I mean, that's that's pretty crazy. So thank you.
Thank you for clarifying that, councilman. Kenneth Kent Castro.
Yes, sir.
Good morning.
Good morning.
My name is Kenneth Castro. First time here. I don't have statistics like everyone else, but hey, mayor, city council member, city manager, the necessities of life are food, water, and shelter. As for stage three water restriction, public has sacrificed water usage, but the refineries continue to use more than the than the past. Questions are, are the refineries being fined for using more water than the year before?
According to the city manager statistics. While the public and small districts, schools, colleges, NAS, and etcetera have sacrificed the usage of water at the sake of the refineries, Sitting manager and CCW officials, y'all doing? It seems like you're unqualified and logistic. City manager he stated on the last video that you cannot just turn off the refineries water because it will blow up. What kind of statement is that?
And you gave that to the public. Really?
Groundwater
pumping. Groundwater pumping. That's good for the residents of Corpus Christi. But it's like rearranging the deck chairs with the Titanic when you factor in the refineries. Corpus Christi needs desalinization plant ASAP.
US Navy ships use desalinization. Giant cruise ships use desalinization. Other countries use desalinization. Cities, they lost their fresh water sources. Those cities now are thriving, and population is not at a lack of water.
And this is my opinion, but for the future of Corpus Christi and it's is to establish a law on high volume users in the foreseeable future to have their own standalone water system and stay away from the community's water system.
Thank you, mister Kestrel.
Thank you. Thank you.
Sean Flanagan.
Hi. My name is Sean Flanagan. I live in District 2. I got two purposes talking today. The first purpose is to talk to you about alert you to an event that's gonna happen at Coal Park Amphitheater from 06:30 to 8PM on Sunday, May 17. We're having a one nation under God prayer rally to celebrate two hundred and fifty years of being a nation under God. This coincides with a national rally with the same title being held on the same day in the National Mall in Washington DC. Through prayer and song, we will organize around three themes. First, thanksgiving for our nation. Second, prayer for unity among our citizens.
Third, forgiveness when we as an individual or a nation has fallen short of the mark of Christ. We have 10 ministers inters burst with songs leading the praying. I've given you each a flyer and sent you you got a PDF that's up on the screen. And everybody everybody in the audience, everybody in the city is invited to this event. It's a nonpolitical event.
We're trying to pray for our country and our city. Second deal is that this is a difficult day. Seems like y'all have difficult days every time you meet. What I wish, and this is for me and for everybody who's gonna stand at this podium like I'm doing now, is remember Christ teaching when the apostles were chastised for eating improper food, breaking the dietary laws. Christ said, hey, it's not what you put in your body, it's what come out of your body that makes you impure.
Your words. If somebody stands up here, or you all amongst yourselves, and disagrees with you, or tells lies about you or does personal assaults against you, personal complaints against you, you have no control over that. You have total control over what you say. When you are replying to things of that nature, you can disagree agreeably, you can point out falsehoods agreeably, and if you you're better off meeting personal invective with humor and humility. In other words, and that goes for not just you all, but everybody is standing up here.
It's like, you know, here's the deal. This is our city council, and we're gonna disagree. You guys did. I disagree with you about a lot of things, but you gotta do it with dignity, and we gotta respect each other. And and that's the example we're hoping to see throughout the day today. So thank you.
Thank you, mister Flanagan. Jason Falwell.
Do I have the floor?
You do.
Thank you. So I'd like to talk about decorum, time, place, and manner. Time is, now. Time limit's three minutes. Right? That's equal treatment under law, which is the fourteenth amendment, which you're aware of, what you're using to combat counsel. Right? So you agree with your rights, but not our rights. Shame on you. Manor at the podium or virtual. Is that right, mister what is it? Weasley? Is that right, Weasley? Alright. So, place is here. That's it. That's all that's all your Texas Open Meeting Act. That's all your rules. That's it. Anything else does not matter, and you can't violate people's constitutional rights.
With that said, I tried to finish my conversation last time I was here, but these gentlemen over here threatened me with arrest for my First Amendment right. I want you to know equal treatment under law. Right? Thank you. Okay. So today, if you all threatened to arrest me, make sure you actually have the law that I broke. Go ahead and get GPT chat. This is gonna happen in a minute, and I'm gonna ask for it before you threaten me with arrest so I don't look stupid. Okay. Men.
So in this population, have roughly 350,000 people. With the 350,000 people, about 70% of them men. 18 years and older, about a 120,000 men. If just point 1% of the men in this town would do what I do, this city council meeting would be overflowing with men, over 200. If there's more than 200 men here, what do you think happened to these cops when they try to illegally arrest us? What would you do? Would you arrest 200 men for telling you, I don't believe in you and you're a piece of shit? Would you? You see how the tides would turn if y'all would just listen? And then you could take those 200 men and do it across the entire United States at every city council meeting.
And it would take the men, what, one hour a month to change the entire world. Men could change the entire world if they just sat up here and do what I did. Thank you for not threatening me for arrest. I appreciate it. Cussing is legal. Right, mister Risley Weasley? Mister Weasley, last time I was here, said cussing was illegal. Do you have no statement now? You all learned. Thank you for your time. Before I leave, your officer also understands constitutional rights as he told me fuck you in the hallway last time I was here. So fuck you and have a nice day. Andrew.
I'm sorry. Alejandro Chaviria.
Alejandro Chabiria, District 3. I don't know how I can follow that one. I'm here to talk about the most important thing, water. Not the mayor, not the whether somebody should be talking about other stuff or that. We have to do something now because the water is getting critical.
Now last time I was here, I told you guys what you could do with a desal plant, and you could add add an extra process to it and then take those that brine and sell it because those are rare minerals. Well, you guys know that you don't even need a company to make a desal plant. You guys, the city can make their own. All they gotta do is set up where they can boil the salt water. Once that salt water becomes steam, you can put it to a turbine, make electricity for the city free while you're doing the process.
At the end, what you're gonna get left is what's called solar assault because they use solar energy to heat up the water to make the steam. That also becomes fresh water at the end. So, why aren't we looking into that? Water is the most important thing right now. Not the mayor, not anything else.
I looked into the mayor's thing and if you guys proceed with this thing, all you're gonna be doing you're already costing the city money, our money. By continuing with the mayor, you're gonna cost us even more. Because if I was the mayor, I'd sue every one of you. And I'll tell you why. The people that voted both times should not be allowed to be judge and jury. Right. The people that did not that voted no both times should be allowed to be the judge and jury. And I tell you why. The other people are gonna become witnesses. If I was her lawyer, I'd make sure that the other people become witnesses.
Why did you turn? Why do you wanna do this now? You took a small percentage of the population and decided to do all this drama when you could have waited until she left office or election and we'd still have that extra money for water. You know, you guys need to really get together.
You know, you're a team, but
you don't look like one right now. You know, you're causing these people aggravation, you're causing them money, all these things. And you should be concentrating on the main thing, water. I have filmed. I collected six gallons of water since Easter on a three by three by four panel that never moves, that stayed at one spot, and collected this water. You imagine if you had all these panels how much water you would collect? Thank you very much. And I got my prototype.
Thank you, mister Chaveta. Scott Barraza.
Good afternoon Scott Bourassa noises county wanna talk about the well mitigation program you'll have. This was a program not that I asked for this is a program that the city employees acting as board members of the aquifer storage and conservation district. It has a special condition on the well permits. The well permits were approved on 12/19/2025 and had sixty days to comply. It's listed on the securing water website that they were approved January 13.
On the permit, the special conditions on well permits number four states the permit is to develop a well assistance program, good neighbor program that will a, assist any owners with periodic water level monitoring, b, assist well owners with water quality data sampling, c, review well construction formation with well owners, and d, include a well remediation program for wells that have been confirmed to be impacted by the permit ease operations. Now no evidence that four d has been done or is being drafted. I cannot find it anywhere, as of this morning. I was here in February asking about this. I was told we're gonna look into it.
I came back again in March, and Peter said he would look into it. Now on March 26 at the aquifer storage and recovery conservation district meeting, Nick gave a briefing report like a quarterly report. He did not bring forth a written well mitigation plan. It is now April, and let me guess, you have to look into it. Less than a week of the partial operation in the Western Well field, Orange Grove had well issues, and that was not pumping at the planned capacity. There this wasn't supposed happen, but did. World well owners are both concerned and worried and rightfully so. Will our wells be like orange groves and have issues caused from your wells? It wasn't supposed to happen there, but it did. Would our wells be any different?
No well mitigation program exists just a data collection program. Council will be different and staff as well next year. This needs to go beyond word-of-mouth and be codified somehow. Esteban Ramos the CCW water resource manager he couldn't answer my question on well spacing rules and told me I to do a public information request, and I did. And still, there is no response from Belinda Bauderis, the senior management and an analysis for CCW.
These are both the general manager and administrator for the Corpus Christi aquifer storage and recovery conservation district. I sent my request February 19. I also sent a request asking about the well mitigation program. That too was met with silence. With this type of behavior from them, I don't expect any help from the Corpus Christi Aquifer Storage And Recovery Conservation District in regard to well issues caused by their permit holders.
And with that lack of action forming a written well mitigation plan from the city, it appears rural well owners won't see any help if those wells, the city's wells caused their wells issues. Hire a consultant or do whatever you need to do. Just get it done. My opinion on this as well as many others in rural Nueces County and surrounding counties, we're all opinion that we're just shit out of luck if all wells have issues caused by the city wells because nothing is being done. Don't you just love good neighbors?
Thank you, mister Baraza. And Miles, would somebody please address his his inquiries? Jesus Wong.
Jesus Wong, District 4. Good afternoon, council. I stand here as a community member, organizer, and a university student. About a year ago, a colleague and I were sitting in the council chambers when a community member spoke during a public comment about the adopt a park program. Inspired by that moment, Texas rising adopted dog park located along Ocean Drive and committed to monthly litter cleanups.
We wouldn't have otherwise known about the program, so this is our way of paying it forward. Across our 11 park cleanups, we've engaged about 90 volunteers ranging from university students, business owners, and community members just simply looking to get involved. Over the past year, we've collected roughly 78 industrial grade trash bags, roughly equivolating to five seventy three cubic square feet of waste. And trust me on the math, I am confident in my grade school skills. And most of that trash is consisting of plastic bottles, straws, Styrofoam, a handful of vape pens, disposables.
And tomorrow, April 15 at 6PM marks our twelfth park cleanup and one year since we initially adopted Dottrich Park. We invite members of the community to join us as we celebrate this milestone, and also encourage other individuals and civic organizations to consider adopting a park through the city's adopt a park program. According to the website, about 33 out of 132 parks have been adopted. And again, picking up trash once a month for an hour and a half may not sound like the most fun thing, but surprisingly, up trash and witnessing the beauty of that park is the few enjoyable things that have come about despite turbulent times. Thank you again. I invite everyone here to attend our pot cleanup tomorrow, and I look forward to it. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Wong. Suzy Saldanha.
I'm Susiluna Saldana, as you well know, and I'm here today to bring up some concerns that I have and they are involving Rejew and the Island Hotel Marriott and David Agiev and the connection with the residential in hotel. On August 27, the city of Corpus Christi entered into a business agreement with Padre Island North LLC on Borreju for the development of a dual brand island hotel Marriott and a conference center. The agreement clearly state that the company would invest an estimated $34,000,000 into construction projects including 200 hotel rooms and a conference center during the space. Based on that representation, the developers received an approval of $2,000,000 incentive. Heard 2,000,000 before have you?
However, just one month later on 09/24/2025, a commercial building permit tied to the same project listed a total of construction for only $10,300,000. That is a discrepancy of nearly $34,000,000. So the question is simple which number is the truth? Because the permits appear significantly under valuing the reduction fees of the city permits. Money that's paid to the city.
Is the real cost 10,300,000.0 or 35,000,000? Which one is it? Because either way it looks like there's a possibility of something that is fraught. And I hear rumors said that, oh, the staff agrees that then we we can't talk about this. It'll open a Pandora's box. Okay? Everybody does this. I'll tell you what I told my kids in school. Everybody may do it, but if you got caught, you're the one that got caught. And there's documentation in what I have provided to you.
Strong documentation that shows what it is. And you cannot have preferential treatment for anyone. Hey, I agree with congressman councilman Hernandez. I agree with him that there should be no preferential treatments. So you need to investigate these things. You cannot let it go that, oh, everybody does it. That's a third of the money and permits that is not being paid to the city. And they'll tell you, oh, but we have receipts. No they don't, or they would have been on your website. They would have been in public information that I received.
So you obviously don't have them. Is somebody countering them up? Is there a deal going on behind closed doors? Oh my god. Is it possible that we have people doing things like that in Corpus Christi? I want every one of you that came out and demanded answers from the Homewood Suites to demand answers on this hotel. It is appropriate that you do so. Thank you.
Thank you Miss Saldanha. Jared Suarez.
Jared Suarez, District district chair. The city is in severely compromised position over basic human necessity, water. We are mission status critical. This alone ought to be the singular utmost importance of reasons to impeach the mayor. The responsibility lies with the mayor.
The mayor and the council's implied consent of approval from the city's manager's actions have resulted in epic failure. As a result, the community now faces the consequences of the leadership from the mayor and that has not prioritized the needs of its citizens, but that of her own. Of course, allegedly, that is. Is the agenda to impeach the mayor a political power move? Maybe.
Maybe not. What I do know is those running for city council somehow all seem to be tied to the mayor. If she stays in if she stays in and her pawns elected, they will obey her every demand, refineries first, and then possibly consider the residents, again, allegedly. Also, the city is roughly $1,900,000,000 in debt, yet we are paying the city manager more than what the president makes. Why?
We, the people, should vote on the salary and that of the council and mayor. No more self pay raises. My opinion, he should be paid minimum wage for his performance. I am not against desal plants. I'm against the experimental desal plant being in a closed bay and not even a plan to make profit from the salt that would be extracted. Dumping the salt back into the water will kill our wildlife ecosystem that will stop the revenue we get from the fishing industry. The salt dumped back into the water, it'll eventually overload the diesel plant. The salt content of the water will become higher as the years go by. The salt will be too much for the filters. How much would that cost us to fix when that breaks down?
Sources say that the mayor already presold all the water that will come from the diesel plant to refineries, again, allegedly. Yet our tax money will foot the bill for the desal plant to be built, which in turn raises our water bill. The refinery should pay for the desal completely since they will only benefit from it. Aristotle in his book of ethics says that to be a politician is of the greatest good a citizen can do because a politician self sacrifices for the city they serve. How extremely far we have gone from self sacrifice for the greater good to now, how can I best serve myself and get the best kickbacks?
Our judgment before God sees all our intentions of what we do in secret. We cannot hide from nor escape God's perfect justice and punishment. Do what is right even at the sake of your reputation, even if you can't afford any more Gucci bags in the near future. Thank you.
Doctor Rick Barrera.
Good afternoon, everybody. My name is doctor Rick Barrera from District 5. I gratefully serve as the pastor and a proud commissioner and vice chairman of the Ethics Commission. A few weeks ago, councilman Scott had asked for clarification on the procedures when a complaint is presented to the ethics commission, and he was told that they were all distributed through the city attorney's office and then forwarded to the ethics commissioners, and that's not entirely accurate. Two years ago in March 2024, a member of this council was brought before the ethics commission following a complaint concerning from a concerned citizen alleging a violation of the Texas Open Meetings Act, involving interactions with the council members and some court officials.
That council member was ultimately cleared of any wrongdoing. However, shortly after that meeting, that hearing, a revision to the code of ordinances, was presented to and ultimately approved by this council. That revision capped legal expenses and allowed city officials to retain their own legal counsel, and there's no significant concern over that. The concern arises with the provision directing the city attorney's the city attorney's office to review all complaints and determine unilaterally whether or not they're forwarded to the ethics commission. Not not the city attorney's fault.
Miles and his staff do a fantastic job for the city. That change, however, is contrary to the very reason why the ethics commission even exists. Since that change was made please hear me. Since that change was made, not a single complaint has made it to the ethics commission in over a year and a half. All of them have been dismissed by the city attorney's office.
The ethics commission exists to get to give citizens a voice to ensure transparency and and accountability to in public service. The commission guards against conflicts of interest and clarifies what's permissible and investigates complaints fairly and makes recommendations to this council. But most importantly, it preserves public trust. Even when a city official acts appropriately, appearances matter. When a city employee determines whether or not another city employee is in violation, that's that's hard to take.
It it can be it can be something that doesn't look right. Not because the city attorney won't be fair or has an agenda, but simply because they're a city employee. They may have professional or personal relationships with individuals who could be the subject to complaints. Early last year, the commissioners voted unanimously to recommend restoring the original language to the code of code of ordinances, allowing all complaints to be reviewed by the commissioners that you folks appointed. That recommendation still hasn't made it to you folks over a year later.
And now the word on the street is you guys have been pretty busy here in the council chambers. I don't know something about water or something like I don't know, I don't know anything about that, but what I do know is that it's time. It's past time, guys, for you guys to review that recommendation that the ethics commission gave you. The commission believes restoring the original language of that, section would strengthen transparency.
Thank you, doctor Bonita.
Yeah.
Dearhart Jackson? Yes.
Councilwoman. Thank you. Peter, can we review that recommendation from that committee, please?
We can. Yes, Thank you.
Hello, Corpus Christi. Yesterday, I was at your school board. They passed a new Texas senate bill 13, went into effect at the beginning of this school year. All school boards in Texas have to have a library review committee for books added to or removed from the school library. I have been taking autographed copies of doctor Judy Wood's book, where did the towers go? She took the National Institute of Science and Technology to court in New York's Southern District along with several military contractors, and none of you know her name. It's not mentioned on the news. It is hidden under the table. The fact is no plane hit the World Trade Center. It is in your face obvious.
You look at page two here after her quote, it shows an f four phantom jet. That's Newton's third law, instant and opposite reaction. The instant that nose touches, the explosion begins. All debris field forms externally to the collision. You watch it on nine one one, and the building flies right through it. The plane doesn't even wrinkle. It goes right on by, not a single piece of dust as it enters and goes completely into the building. Finally, a fireball after it reaches reaches the center. Another one is the free fall. You look at page three, the time it would take in free fall for a vacuum compared to the collapse of the tower times and so forth.
Mister Jackson
I'm bonds.
I'm sorry to interrupt you, but it must be city related.
You're I can't understand you. I'm hard of hearing. May I please finish my three minutes?
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is Texas senate bill 13, and the school board must review this book. I'm putting it in your face. You are a gullible fool if you think an airplane knocked down the World Trade Center Building. Doctor Judy Wood goes 500 pages of publicized information that is beyond doubt, and it is in your school board and will be. All Texas school boards need to review this. Thank you very much.
Thank you, mister Jackson. Rachel Caballero.
City secretary I need a a clarification because my agenda item is later, so I need to know what to speak on my public comment now. Will I be given the opportunity to speak on my petition later in the meeting if I speak about it now? Or should I speak about something else?
Well, you have a choice to speak now on the item or when the item comes up, when it's being considered.
David I mean, Rachel Caballero, district one. It's comical that we're getting attorneys to fight for our constitutional rights, and here I'm fighting for my constitutional right to speak on the things that I need to speak on. I'm gonna speak about the Inner Harbor experimental Inner Harbor desalination plant. I think the joke of an emergency meeting last Friday was proof that things are not moving forward. The meeting was unnecessary and that we are pushing a horrible, horrible project.
This community and this city manager and others are wanting to put this all of the rate payers to pay to have quadruple water rates for approving an experimental Inner Harbor desalination plant. We're already in debt $3,000,000,000. 3,000,000,000. And there's no water to show for it. 60,000,000, one of our lovely, thank goodness, last term council members said that, yeah, they have squandered about 50,000,000 of that money.
It's been squandered because there's nothing to show for it. Corruption comes at a really, really, really expensive price for our community members. Chris Sick did a story on April 3 and showed how we as a community are conserving. We have dropped in usage from February to March from 395 MGD to $2.03 61 MGD. So when we conserve water, where is the water that we're conserving going?
Oh, large volume water users, their usage was eight seventy one and it is increased to 900 MGD. So we're saving water, and industry is taking it because we don't have an administration or we haven't had in the last ten years, twenty years, low elected public officials that represent the community. The scales are upside down. It is time that we get public servants who serve this community and do not serve themselves, do not serve their industry partners, do not serve their contribute contribute contributors from their campaigns. We cannot continue to bear the weight of what industry is taking.
We've been a good partner to them. You can drive up I 37 Corridor and see how good of a partner we've been to industry. You can go up Joe Fulton Corridor and see how good of a partner we've been to industry. But you can't look at your property tax bill and see that. You can't drive our streets and see that. Start representing people. It's time.
Robin Sanders.
Madam mayor, city council, and all, we've reached a point where you just have to have a reality check. If this were a marriage, it would be dissolved for irreconcilable differences. If this was a jury, it would be disbanded because it is a hung jury. Individually, you're all just great people. As a team, you are dysfunctional, not your fault, and it's not the fault of the mayor of this city.
It's our fault. We voted you into office. We can take you out of office. There's only one solution, and that solution was given by governor Abbott when he said that he can come down here and take over this project. He's going to have to do it because you're small town thinking people.
You can't do it. Been after the mayor, you don't have to you don't have to put up with this. You are the one that can contact governor Abbott and say, please come and take this burden. I, as a citizen, a lone voice in the wilderness, am going to do the same. I'll people to follow me.
The city can't go any further. Right now, there are 120 tankers on the way to the Gulf Of America. Venezuela is sending oil. Do y'all think that president Trump came down here just to make your acquaintance? No.
Corpus Christi is becoming a major industrial hub, and there's nothing that the hotel industry, the hospitality, tourism can do about it. This is economic Stop it. You're not going to stop progress. You can't be the bride at every wedding and the corpse at every funeral. You cannot confuse education with wisdom.
And the puppet master that is the hospitality industry, throwing money around because they wanna beat tourism. They're nothing. We're talking about billions and billions. Right now, a major data center, AI, is sending out a survey for jobs that pay a $120,000 a year. Thank you all. Madam Mayor, I'll be in touch with you again, and I'm gonna go talk to the governor's office.
Thank you, miss Sanders. Joseph Gore.
Thank you, mayor, city council, city staff. Very good to be here. Thank you for having me. Joe Gore, District 5. Corpus Christi needs water, not witch hunts.
A chronica independent poll showed that 64% of Corpus Christi residents wanted the city to move forward with an Inner Harbor seed desal plant, but six votes on the council killed the Kiwit contract at taxpayer expense. This is not representing your constituents. This is called activism. Water has always been a serious issue here in Corpus Christi, and this decision was mulled over by hundreds, if not thousands of experts, city council persons, citizens in studies already. For twenty years plus, several successive councils have moved this desal plant closer to completion.
All this council had to do was take the ball and fall over the goal line. That's it. Simple. No problem. But they didn't. Now some of the council is wanting to impeach the mayor to just just distract from this mistake that they made. I bring this up because it appears that some of these councils are not only experts on water, but also experts on investigations as well. It seems that even after a thorough CCPD investigation and another one paid for, what, $50? You're still not happy. You didn't get the results that you wanted.
Well, I'm not happy. I'm a taxpayer. I don't like wasting money, and we're wasting a whole lot of money. If I would I would believe that the person of integrity would when they didn't get the results that they wanted, they would offer to pay for that investigation themselves. You know, if if witch hunts is what they what we want, maybe we ought to investigate everybody's donor roles and see maybe what's making what's motivating everybody's actions here.
Anyone can see that this is all just a classic act of projection. You know? You know, accusing others just to cover cover for yourself and your own actions. It's not the mayor's ethics that need investigation. It's the it's the people that are making the accusations and and accusing and and stirring the pot and making dirty in the waters is who really need to be looked at.
I support the mayor in her defense of herself and these baseless accusations and very much appreciate that she's fighting for what is right for her and this city. And also to the council members who stood on the right side of the issue of the water and have not been swayed by the intimidation and bullying tactics of these activists. Hopefully, the voters will remove these radicals and elect more adults to serve along your side in the next election. Time will tell you, but we'll see. Thank you for your time.
Thank you, mister Gore.
Statement of fact.
Statement of fact. Yes. Go ahead. Councilman Moore.
Yeah. I just wanted to present a statement of fact there. As far as the council goes in desalination and the and the vote to terminate Kewitt, we saved the taxpayers about $350,000,000 when we did that. We didn't kill. I didn't vote. I've never voted once to stop desal. But what I did do was take a look at their price tag, which they couldn't substantiate and save this community $350,000,000. If that's not something, then I don't know what is. Thank you.
Grace Canales.
Hello. I'm Grace Canales, and I live in District 4. As a lifelong resident of Corpus Christi and a student, I am not just frustrated, I am alarmed by how long this water crisis has been allowed to escalate. Right now, our reservoirs are sitting at roughly 14% capacity overall, with Lake Corpus Christi around 8.5 and Choke Canyon near 7%. If you don't see that as a warning as a warning sign, then the residents of Corpus Christi are screwed.
Our water supply constitutes for seven counties and over 500,000 residents. Industry accounts for a significant portion of, of the city's water use, often estimated at over half of the total supply. Yet despite that, the burden of conservation continues to fall heavily on residents, while long term solutions remain unclear or delayed. This is not a new issue. For decades, we have known our water supply was vulnerable. So the question is no longer what is the plan? It is why were stronger actions not taken sooner? Great idea for desalination plant, but dumping that sludge right back into the bay. Yeah. No.
Y'all are ready for real solutions, but don't want to invest. People are already leaving the city because they are losing confidence in its future. That's sad. What concrete actions are being taken right now to reduce industrial strain on our water supply? What measurable steps are being implemented to secure a a sustainable source of water for residents? Why does it feel like we are still reacting to this crisis instead of having prevented it? Water is not optional. It is basic necessity, and right now, it does not feel like it has been treated with the urgency it deserves. We do not need more reassurance. We need accountability, immediate action, and a clear timeline. What are you doing today to ensure that Corpus Christi has water tomorrow? Thank you.
Thank you, miss Canales. Jody Fetler?
Meeting Jody Fettler, Corpus Christi Police Officers Association District one. I'm here today to express the POA support for our mayor. Public safety is one of the most fundamental responsibilities of any city government. Mayor Paulette Guajardo has been a champion for public safety since she was elected in 2016. And as a proponent for public safety, mayor Guajardo, excuse me, has been committed to two things, protecting the citizens of Corpus Christi and making the city safer and protecting the officers of the police department.
We would be remiss if we did not take a moment to recognize the near decade of steadfast support given by this mayor and council to improve public safety throughout our great city. These efforts include adding additional staff, new facilities, updated equipment, advanced training, and continued public support. There is little doubt these efforts have added up to the safety of this community. Equally important is the investment in officers. Funding for 506 officers demonstrates a serious commitment to maintaining a strong and effective police force.
It's not just about numbers. It's about making sure our departments are properly staffed so officers can do their job safely and effectively, and so our community receives the level of service it deserves. We respectfully urge all city members correction. We respectfully reserve urge all members of city council to conduct themselves in a manner that ensures that all actions taken are guided by established laws, proper protocols, and a commitment to fairness above all else. In the world we live in, unfortunately, versions of events and or opinions of events are many times dictated by social media, emotions, and misinformation, and not by facts that dictate the truths of this case.
Thank you.
Thank you, mister Vedler. Ron Graben.
Ron Graben district one. I say meant to what was just said. Austin, there's no go zones for the police department. I have a friend that works up there. And so I'm a mess with you a little bit and say I don't wanna be like Austin.
And I know what you were saying, but that's why I live in Corpus because I don't wanna live in Austin. But I wanna thank the city manager who has been called a lot of different names for an incredible job on North Beach. If you go down there, you'll see something that is happening that hasn't happened in decades on North Beach. And I thank our council, just one representative, for your work over there. I know you're not running again, and that's sad to me, but I understand.
And, mayor Guardo, we rode around. I gave you seven things to do. We got three six of them done, and the seventh one was really a wish list. So thank you for for what you've, been able to accomplish. The the far field study isn't gonna really settle anything.
Either you're for it or you're not. It's just not the point of contention that you're gonna be able to argue about. Al Gore predicted twenty years ago certain things. He still says he's right twenty years later. So, you know, you need to look at that and say, what are we doing? Environmentalist I'm an environmentalist. You know, our family has a owns a a forest in New Zealand. And we take those trees and we harvest them, and we bring them all the way over here. And you know what we make out of them? Toilet paper, which everybody, I assume, uses.
And I haven't heard anybody address the issue of the economics of the environment impact of making that tree into a toilet paper roll in your bathroom. So if you don't have toilet paper, hopefully, you have a bidet, but now you're taking water away from the industry. If you don't have a bidet, I don't wanna shake hands with you. All due respect. I've been to India before.
So I'm just trying to point out to you that there are certain things that are highlighted as environmental, and it's like a smorgasbord environmentalist. We have to survive in this world or else we can go back to living in caves and cooking over wood. I got off the plane in New Delhi, India, and I said, Jay Raj, what's going on here? I can't hardly breathe. He said, well, that's all the poor people. They cook with using cow dung patties. They put straw in there, and they then they cook it. So I wish I could get to the mayor, but I'm sorry.
Thank you, mister Craven. Christian Resendez.
Hello. Hello. Good afternoon. Hope you all have been having a pretty good day so far. Gil, Eric, good to see you guys again. My name is Christian, affiliate and member of CDF, Citizens Defending Freedom. I did have some stuff to say, but I just wanna still go off of some encouragement that I saw this morning. I am a Christian, and we I live in this beautiful city, Corpus Christi in Texas. And what does Corpus Christi mean? You know, in Latin, I'm sure a lot of people know it means body of Christ. Correct?
a lot of us
Corpus Christians hold that dear. And because we stand on truth, we stand on morals, leadership, respect, compassion, and of course, yes, love. And so the encouragement I wanna share today with you guys is this. We've all done things that weigh us down and make us wonder why do I seem to do what I know is wrong. In scripture, sin is described as actions that miss the target that God's asked us to aim for, living a life centered around loving God and others.
While there are universal actions and dishonor God, small acts of disobedience also pull us away from him. The apostle James wrote that it is sin to know what the right thing to do is and then to not do it. James four seventeen. In other words, if you know what God is asking you to do, yet you still decide to disobey him, then you are undermining God's authority in your life. Sin entices us because it is self gratifying, but it results in eternal separation from God and others.
That's just some good encouragement I wanna share with you, ladies and gentlemen. You're still doing a great job. I am an athlete and a coach here in this community. Working as a team is very important, and I hope that you all continue to work as a team together, and you listen to us community. And I know there's a lot of enticement, negative, but I hope y'all guys can make the right choices and the right decisions for this community. There's a lot of wasted projects that have happened in the past. I mean, I know a lot of some of y'all were behind it. If not, the the outlets slidered on. A lot of businesses that continue to go bankrupt and leave here. Corpus is a beautiful beautiful city.
I'm electrician. I work for American Electrical Power Company, and I've traveled around Texas. And everybody loves Corpus Christi. I love Corpus Christi, and we need to continue to make this company I mean, this community grow and flourish. I mean, it's I see it all the time. Austin, San Antonio, Dallas. I used to live in Fort Worth area. Houston is all flourishing and booming. I mean, they have high rises going up like crazy. And why is that not happening here? It needs to happen here because this is an amazing beautiful city, guys. Thank you, guys.
Thank you, mister Resendez. Samuel Andre Fryer.
Salmeandre Friar district four. I'm thinking about a movie quote, and it says, this town needs an enema. Now before I'm misunderstood, I'm not talking about necessarily removal of the mayor or anyone else per se, but I am talking about a process that needs to take place. In Proverbs the sixth chapter, it says, a scoundrel, a wicked man is one who goes around with a perverse mouth, winking his eyes, shuffling his feet, pointing his fingers, who continually plots evil with deceit in his heart, stirring up strife. Therefore, his disaster will be sudden.
In an instant, he will be broken with no remedy. Six things Adonai hates. Yes. Seven are an abomination to him. Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that plots wicked schemes, feet that run to evil, a false witness whose spouse lies, and one who stirs up strife among a brother.
You know, it's interesting because we're sitting here, I know in May 17, they're talking about a national time of prayer. And if we really think about that, a lot of times, the second chronicles seven fourteen when it says, if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray, if they will seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven, forgive their sins, and heal their land. The problem is most people overlook the fact that it's really referring also to if the lord allows the heavens to be like iron and there's no rain on the land. Are we not in a drought? Is it not time for certain things to take place?
We hear inter interesting things, for example, efforts to obstruct what? My pet project, the inner harbor desal, when it comes to individuals who are just standing in their ground feeling doing the the right things that they feel is the right thing to do? Well, guess what? What do you think God could prepare us more about? Does he care about disrupting or obstructing the progress of a pet job or something, or does he care about obstructing justice?
I think he cares more about obstructing justice. Now let's think about a few things. I know that the count, the code of of ordinance article two eleven talks about different things. Oftentimes you hear, oh, we're obstructing we're o oh oh, look overlooking the democracy. Well, first of all, if I'm not mistaken, we're in a constitutional republic, not a democracy. So why do we use those kind of words? We're not a democracy, a constitutional republic. And guess what that means? We the people are the government. That means we have a responsibility.
Just because someone's elected, it doesn't absolve them from any criminal actions from above the law. It doesn't elevate them above scrutiny, and it doesn't elevate them above accountability. We need to hold everyone accountable and owe what owe what tangled wealth we weave when we first seek to deceive.
Thank you. Julian Hernandez.
Good afternoon. I was actually on the phone last council meeting at the end. Almost waited two hours and y'all couldn't hear me. I didn't know if I could have any of that time back. I just thought I'd ask.
But there was a lot of things I wanted to say that I'll probably say today in reference to that day. Julian Hernandez, District 3. First off, condolences to the family, mister Cantu. From from my family, and I I found a lot of stuff that my uncle anyways, condolences to the family. And, also, to that day that I wanted to speak, there was a the first lady that came out here, think I she was crony to somebody, but she pointed out missus Campos and missus Paxton.
And I was so angry at that because she was complaining about a person that came in here and pointed out some other ladies. But yet she came into the same exact thing, and nobody said anything to her. K? But just wanted to address those two things from last time. Two minutes.
Okay. My deal is on ethics and the law. I used to do transmission utilities. And just to set the scene, we're in South Dakota, farmer parcel right of way easement. And the corner of the easement was a wetland area.
And for those that aren't familiar with that, can't just you can't just put dirt in it. We drilled a hole about 15 feet in diameter, about 60 feet down, so we had a lot of spoils left. And I knew that I could push that dirt into that hole. But the farmer I could give that dirt to the farmer and he could push it in. If I did it, it was against the law. Right? I could be fine. The company that I work for can be fine. But if he did it, it's his dirt. Okay?
It's the same exact thing. It would cost me money to fill a dump truck and remove all those spoils from that job site. Or I could leave it for him to do. It wouldn't cost me anything. He could fill up that that that little watering hole that I'm not allowed to do.
And I say this because it was against the law for me to do it. But ethically, it was right for me to take the spoils, pay for it, and remove it from that location. Some of these things that that that I started following when I started coming to the council meetings, yeah there's a lot of stuff saying that it wasn't against the law that some of the things that happened here, but ethically the fine line that that was crossed that I could have easily crossed that day. And those things beat action. Thank you.
Thank you, mister Hernandez. Adam Rios. Adam Rios. Kathy Fulton. Kathy Fulton. Selena Guerra.
My name's Selena. I'm District 2. When a system becomes flawed, when it lacks integrity and drifts into unethical behaviors, it no longer serves the people it was designed to protect. In my work, I've built a model centered on advocacy, ownership, and removing unnecessary barriers, along with a critical soft skill called listening. Not listening to respond, but listening to understand.
Because when we listen only to reply, we are not truly listening at all. What I have consistently observed, not just in this issue, but across many, is a pattern of division, manipulation, and harsh responses. When individuals question decisions or offer diff differing perspectives, this is deeply concerning. Leadership, especially elected leadership, carries a responsibility to remain steady and principled. Personal emotions should never dictate decisions or responses.
When accusations arise, the response should not be defensiveness or retaliation, but transparency and accountability. If actions are just, they can withstand scrutiny. Everyone deserves to be heard, including the mayor. Avoiding dialogue of silencing concerns does not resolve issues, it deepens them. When we silence, we veer on the side of socialism.
Justice should never be something we evade, it should be something we pursue. And according to our city charter, we have that right. Retaliation is not a sign of strength, it is often a sign of resistance to change. True leadership seeks truth even when it's uncomfortable. It invites accountability rather than punishing those who raise concerns.
When over 2,200 people, and today, 2,355 to be exact, people recognize that a system may be flawed, that is not something to dismiss. It is something to examine closely. It becomes a responsibility to advocate, take ownership, and acknowledge the reality of the situation. At the end of the day, leadership exists to serve the people. We, the people, not the other way around.
If a system protects injustice instead of addressing it, then that system itself must be questioned. That should never be a political thing, but it's about doing the right thing. As it is as it is written in Proverbs thirty one eight says, speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute. Speak up and judge fairly, and that's what the people in this courtroom have done every week. I watch it live almost every single week. Thank you.
Thank you, miss Guerra. Jasmine Evans?
Hi. I'm Jasmine Evans, District five. What's being passed out right now is just an invitation to our park cleanup that we're doing tomorrow. It is one year of Texas Rising adopting Dodgeridge Park. I always come out to these council meetings wanting to stay up to date with city issues that are going on, making sure that we are opposing desalination here in our bay.
But also, I just really wanted to shout out the Adopt A Park program. I really loved hearing about it last year. There was one gentleman from, I think, a skate organization who had brought it up, and I thought it was a very lovely program. And I really wanted to make sure that more organizations, more people know that they can adopt a park. And I'd love to see our council as there.
Definitely, especially with it getting closer to, I don't know, campaign season or something. I know there'll be a lot of promises about how y'all serve our community, but we would actually love to see y'all out there serving our community and making sure that Corpus Christi is a beautiful, lovely community. And really making sure that, you know, we are actually taking care of the body of Christ and making sure that it is clean and it is beautiful. And so, that was just what I wanted to share out here today. The QR code is to sign up. If you all would like to scan it right now with your phones, you absolutely can. But we would love to see you there tomorrow.
Thank you, miss Evans. Elida Castillo? Eli De Castillo? Michael Savag?
Good afternoon. My name is Michael Savod. I'm a recent legal immigrant crossing the border from California to Texas. I left California a few years ago, three or four years ago, because of what I considered the despicable political environment that I was living under. I moved to Dallas.
I thought that would be a much better situation. But when I got there, I realized there was a city council that must have had a very strong California influence. This influence, I think, is under the misnomer of political correctness. In fact, they started to do things that reminded me way too much of why I left California. In fact, they took the governor I'm assuming the mayor, Eric Johnson, and he actually left the Democrat party and became a Republican because of the way the city council was acting.
Last summer, I decided, okay, enough of Dallas. I'm gonna move to Corpus Christi. I had been here a long time ago as a young Navy officer at the Naval Air Station before I went to Vietnam. And I said, there's there's a place. It's on the ocean.
I miss that part of California. And I came here last year, and one of the first events we attended, my fiance and I, was the was the Corpus Christi Jazz Festival. We were sitting at a table by ourselves, and we watched this lady walk around talking to all the people who were there, think I'm thinking she must be a representative of the jazz festival. Well, she came over to our table, sat and introduced herself as Paulette, strictly Paulette, no sign of a mayor, and we said we just moved here and we were interested. She sat down with us and went on and told us how much she loved Corpus Christi, how beautiful the city was.
And then by coincidence, she says, by the way, I'm the mayor. That kinda took me back and I said, You're doing one heck of a job. And since then, she has helped me find places to go and make what I think Corpus Christi my final resting place. I hope that doesn't sound too bad. But I wanna stay here.
I want to see Corpus Christi continue to grow. I think it's a great place. I don't think we need to change a system that is working. So I read about this. 50,000 almost 50,000 votes for a mayor candidate, not because of promises she made, but because she had been an elected official doing that job for already two terms.
This wasn't campaign promises. People liked what she had done. In a campaign filled with six or seven candidates, she almost got 50% of the vote and wouldn't have needed a runoff like many of you have. Don't let that take place. City Council don't California Kate Corpus Christi. You.
Thank you Mr. Savod. Robin Cox.
Hello. I'm Robin Cox, District 3. And the first thing I'm gonna read to y'all is the definition of decorum. Decorum refers to proper, polite, socially acceptable behavior, emphasizing on dignity and good taste in conduct. We all hear the word decorum constantly here. And today, with the cameras rolling, decorum seems to be right on spot. So everybody asks how I can get along. I'm a I it's no no secret that I'm a staunch Republican. How am I friends with many, many Democrats, even socialists? I'll tell you how.
I show them respect, and they show me respect right back. And we found out we have more in common than we have differences, But I would never insult them, and this council has done some things that I can't believe, and I'm not saying who's responsible. I would never stoop to the level of hiring someone to do reels and insult other council members and be bullied, even it's gone to the point of bullying people that come up to speak. Now, I know about 20 people who wanted to speak today. They called me, but they're afraid.
I say this every time. They're afraid of their businesses, code enforcement coming after them, restaurants. You should not use your power like this. Don't know who's doing it because we can't say names, but you should never use your power to bully people. Another thing I wanna say, nobody pays me. I've never taken a dime from any one of y'all. I don't have a nonprofit I can ask y'all to give to me. I do this simply because I care about this community. Another reason many people haven't come out today, they're middle class people, they can't take off work. I'm lucky that I work for myself and I'm able.
Many people have given place things they've quoted today. I'm not gonna quote the chronica because, gosh, I might as well quote Tiger Beat or the Enquirer. I mean, that's just not gonna be a social, a person to quote. And when we talk about decorum, I don't think I've ever called anyone disgusting here, but yet I've been called disgusting. Wear it as a badge of honor.
So you come up here and you give people time that talk about things you like and smile. I would like for each of you that didn't weren't part of that horrible video to at least admit it, and then we can get down to the bottom of who's doing that because it's terrible. And I know Buck Days is coming up, many of you are excited about riding on a float. And the words of my dad when we used to ask to go, there's a reason those floats are all made of toilet paper, you know, it sits on top of them a lot. Just wanna let you know that.
And as far as being nice people, we had the police department come up and give their say who they thought the police is supposed to kind of stay out of things. This makes me a little afraid of when they take sides. And as far as quoting who's nice and a nice person, my dad met Sam G and Connie years ago, said he was one of the nicest guys he ever met. Ted Bundy was pretty nice too.
Thank you, miss Cox. Zachary Bornstein.
Councilman, my condolences on your loss. Zachary Bornstein, District 1. I have a video I wanna play from the emergency
No. No. No. How much staff time we have spent
from the special meeting workshop focused on the worst desal project ever considered, the Inner Harbor desal project. Play the video, please.
No. No. No. How much staff time we have spent in an entire year before five council members put in put a halt to the original desalination project, the Inner Harbor. Let's talk about that.
By rejecting the key win, and it was six council members, not five.
And then you can add the 50,000,000 that was also flushed down the toilet when that action took place. And that is factual. That is that is factual.
On your on page nine, he identifies that we're a 25 reduction. So even if we have spent 50,000,000, we save 336,000,000. So we we're we're in the black by 286,000,000 just by rejecting key with projects.
As a citizen and a taxpayer, this is not about abstract budgets. It's about our money, our homes, and our future. We're not only need, but demand reasonable and sensible spending. When you consider new project, you must look beyond the initial cost. We, the citizens, pay the long term operating expenses. We need to know how these decisions influence our utility bills, our taxes, and the services we rely on. Every decision made here directly affects us. We expect you to act in the best interest of every family, every business, and every person in this community. We are your rate payer, your taxpayer, and we hold you accountable. Clear thinking and disciplined planning lead to practical, substantial solutions.
This is what delivers better outcomes for us. Our goal is a city where the cost of living is stable and affordable. We expect choices that ensure our city's financial health translates directly into a better, more secure life for all of us. No excuses. Just deliver. Can I play the video one more time, please?
No. No. No. How much staff time we have spent in an entire year before five council members put in put a halt Mhmm. To the original desalination project, the Inner Harbor. Let's talk about that.
By rejecting the key win, and it was six council members, not five.
And then you can add the 50,000,000 that was also flushed down the toilet when that action took place. And that is factual. That is that is factual.
On your on page nine, he identifies that we're a 25% reduction. So even if we had spent 50,000,000, we saved 336,000,000. So, we're we're in the black by 286,000,000 just by rejecting key with projects. Thank you.
Oh, thank you. Melinda Delos Santos. Sure. And then we'll go. I see Kathy Fulton is here, so we'll call Kathy Fulton after that.
Good afternoon. Melinda Delos Santos, district two. I'm here to support the petition regarding the mayor. Our citizens have a right to truth and transparency. I mean, we just gotta look at the corruption that's, coming to light everywhere.
First off, I wanna say that the twenty twenty election was still stolen, and it's gonna come out. Second, Ken Paxson is reviewing all the property tax increases in Texas cities and stuff that have been unlawfully done, childcare fraud in Minnesota, California hospice fraud. So, yes, there's a level of mistrust that's going on, and I'm just gonna take it a step further. I sent a text to some of y'all that I had gone to recently gone to a a human trafficking course in Greenville, Texas. The information I received validated much of my research over the years.
It awakened me of the depth of corruption which nefarious activities occur at the global, federal, state, county, and city level. I was this very disheartened upon hearing of cases in which our government, police, sheriff's department, city councils, school boards, CPS, judicial system, and religious organizations failed in protecting one of the most vulnerable of our society, the children. So, yes. And I'm just gonna give you an example because people are saying, well, everything was investigated and stuff like that. Well, let me give you an example of a 12 year old daughter who was sold by her dad to a pimp.
The first client was a police chief police along with his investigators. And you know what she was told? She was told, you call the police, you will get us. Another client was a right hand aide to the governor of the state. So not so, yes, there is a big mistrust going on with people in power.
So all I'm asking for, I'm not saying that I'm not here to argue that there wasn't some type of investigations or stuff. I'm not saying some may argue that no legal conduct was found with the mayor from the investigations by our police or our legal representatives, but I can only laugh after the numerous cases I heard going to this course from people who go and save these kids, and these same entities, the police, the sheriffs, the the judges, they all failed these kids. So, yes, I I'm sorry. I do have a mistrust going on with people in power. So I'm not here to condemn you, mayor. All I'm asking for is some truth and transparency. Thank you.
Thank you, miss Del Santos. Kathy Fulton? And is Adam Brios here?
Hi. My name is Kathy Fulton. I'm from Port Aransas, Texas, but I was born and raised in Corpus Christi. Still stay involved, still have family here. I I I I've got a couple of things and I wanna say that I was trying to get here as quick as possible, but I was at the Nueces River Authority meeting, which was very quite interesting.
And on I'm still I really don't understand how this council how certain people on this council seem to think that they can remove the mayor based on I'm I'm still confused about the whole thing with five signatures. It really makes no sense. She was elected by the voters of Corpus Christi, like over 47,000 people voted for her. So how can y'all decide, well, we're just gonna take that right away from those voters? Doesn't matter if you're democrat or republican.
To be honest, I don't adhere to either party. What to me does matter is that this is a democracy. And you just don't wipe out those 47,000 people by saying, well, we're gonna do it our way. I just think that this is just a it's a it's it's a witch hunt for a reason I don't understand, and I think it's wrong. Very wrong.
Now I and I support the mayor. We've you know, I have my differences with all civic leaders on a regular basis. Just ask the mayor over on board Aransas. That comes up kinda regularly. But at least I can express that civic discord in an environment and then have discussions about it.
And we may not come to an agreement, and we may come to an agreement. And that's what needs to be happening here with this council. Y'all need to kinda, like, line up and get into a better agreement. By the way, one of the things going on at the Nueces River Authority meeting today is just that. That is something that needs to be the focus here because the Nueces River Authority has violated multiple open meetings act laws.
And this has only been I mean, they just did it again last week. Okay? And they're doing they're gonna be they're they've they've hired a quote outside firm, but they also did it again on that because they had already selected somebody but without having it done by the board. So to the meeting today was because they got caught. Okay?
And in the meeting last week, they got caught by me because they didn't do the posting proper. Back in February, they had a meeting without the required quorum, and they got caught by me yet again. And they had to hold another meeting. This is the group that y'all decided to go with for investing money for Harbor Island? They can't even do proper open meetings. So and that's not the only thing going on. There's gonna be more coming out, believe me, about the wrong things. Thank you.
Thank you, miss Fulton. Jason Hale.
Thank you, mayor. Good afternoon council members. Jason Hale, Corpus Christi. Okay. Today, I'm a little thrown off because there was some news about the modeling for the Inner Harbor. But, yeah, today my today my comment is about the Inner Harbor. It's coming up for a vote in two weeks. We're supposed to have preliminary modeling results available then. Apparently, that's getting pushed back thirty days. But today, I just wanted to raise some questions about that, because I was curious.
We were supposed to be voting on the project with the preliminary results, but what I was wondering is, do we have a vote and a meeting scheduled for when we get the final results? And the reason that's important is because, you know, we're doing this to make sure it's safe for the environment. We wanna know the ecological impacts, but we're not even gonna have that once the final results are available, because those are water quality results, and we have to translate water quality results into ecological impacts. So, you know, that's like a month, maybe longer, after we get those final results that were supposed to be in June, may now be July. So I wanted to raise that.
Also, since it is a contract, I wanted to ask if, basically, if the ecological impacts were determined to be severe and unavoidable, will the city be able to exit the contract without penalty? We need water, we need our water dollars to go to projects that are gonna happen, and so we wanna make sure that we're responsible with our great peer funds. So, I have a minute left. I just wanted to raise a statement of fact. At the workshop on Friday, I think city staff had mentioned that DO, dissolved oxygen modeling, was being done.
And I just wanted to clarify that as far as I'm aware, it's not being done. Although it would be great if we did get it done. The ecological experts have stated this. I know we were kinda late to that when it came to the statement of qualifications, request for qualifications, all that kind of stuff. But if y'all do move forward with the Inner Harbor, it would be great if you also chose to do dissolved oxygen modeling. And yeah, that's it. Thanks.
Thank you, mister Hale. Melody Cooper.
Melody Cooper, district five. Good afternoon. You may or may not remember that I sat where you are sitting for fourteen years between 1993 and 02/2009. During that time and since and since then, I have never seen a situation such as presents itself with the current council. I stand here in support of my mayor, Paulette Guajardo, has worked tireless for this tirelessly for Corpus Christi for the past ten years.
This removal action is unprecedented, and it is wrong. What do the citizens really think is going on here? Seeing the seeing social media talking to people, they think it's about water. They think she's being removed about the water issues. Why is that? Do somebody who want them to think that? I'm gonna say a five letter word that hopefully won't meet get me kicked out of the meeting because of decorum rules. Water, w a t e r. The water issue is what you should acting on and not this preposterous removal. I initially believe what you were doing is in part of a diversionary tactic to take the heat off of yourselves for voting against inner heart of her desalination.
Costing us a great opportunity and causing us to lose millions and millions of dollars that we have to repay. But perhaps this completely politically charged movement is even more sinister to remove the mayor and stop desalination altogether or to remove the mayor and accomplish some political agenda, some hidden agenda you may have. Do you really believe this is a point in time to attempt to make your personal agendas a priority over the best interest of our citizens? Is there a puppet master somewhere behind? I don't know.
It's a good question to ask. I was appalled after seeing the news, a report of last year week's water workshop in disbelief of several of who thought the meeting was a waste of time. Waste of time? Water is the most important issue facing us today. If you haven't noticed, our city is dying. Professionals are moving out. Houses, although taxes are raising, can't be sold. I have a business with seven employees and another home. I'm afraid. My employees are afraid.
Our citizens are afraid. The salination must be implemented and measures to stop to bridge the gap before it's operational secured now. But working on the solution through a workshop on water is a waste of time, really. But it is not a waste of time to try to remove a mayor when two investigations have found absolutely no wrongdoing on her part, and we have elections in five months. Those of you who support removal appear to intend to act as judge, jury, and executioner of our mayor.
Whether or not she is mayor again for another term should be up to the voters, not for those in support of the removal. Might those to support the removal and want to run, which several of you may be planning to do, be a conflict of interest, might that be the subject of a recall? Think about it. Thank you, council member Barrera, Mark Scott, for your support, and thank you, mayor.
Thank you, miss Cooper. Isabel Ariza. Isabel, not here. Gigi David.
Good afternoon. Ajit David District 2.
Able to save the taxpayers of this city millions of dollars. K.
Thank you. One last comment.
Okay. No. No. I'm we're we're gonna you've I've only spoken once. K. So we're gonna go and call the vote. Rebecca, take a roll call, please. We're we're calling vote.
Wait, please. We we still have questions here. That we don't hear things from them as well.
Vote on this and move forward. You guys put it on, we're voting.
Alright.
Rebecca, please take a roll call.
So for a roll call vote, council member Hernandez. Aye. Hunter.
After waiting for seven and a half years for desal and following five and a half years before that for any progress in desal in the city, I have to vote yes. Hussleigh.
Okay. No problem. Roy?
No. Suckley?
Yes. Varera?
Mayor Ojarzo? No. Okay. The item fails. Great.
Thank you. Sorry. I'm just tired of hearing all this fancy talk about desal and the process and this. It's simple. How much is the bill gonna go up? Because that's what the people of Corpus Christi care about. They don't care about, you know, the process of desalination or reverse osmosis and blah blah blah. No. Some people may. Most don't. My parents don't. They wanna know what is this gonna do. And by the way, desal is a long term plan. That is not a short term plan. We will have that plan in eight years. We will not have it in two or three or four or five. I'm gonna leave that alone. I don't wanna get into a
whole another discussion, but it
is let's let's make that clear.
Alright.
Let's We're not gonna get a desal plant in the next three years.
We'll call you a time out. We'll quit camp we'll campaigning, and let's just vote Excuse
me? But
the bottom line is is that we are committed to the city's permitting process. We want to help you in any way we can if you choose to solicit our help. I know that the port worked very well with the city back during the days of the Mary Rose Pipeline. In fact, our our staffs who engineered and built the pipeline. So I think there's a lot we can offer the city with their desal plans if you want it. If not, we're here standing by hoping you get your permit wherever you want it. It's that simple.
I I don't there is no working together. Again, we're we we we are not going to the port and building docks.
The port doesn't need docks either. There are no shortage of docks by the way.
Why the port is coming over this side to try to build desal with no customer.
And we're not trying to build desal. We're just going for a permit for the city to use if you so choose. That's all we're doing.
Just an alternative. I don't know how we can be more clear on that, mayor.
And that is why Corpus Christi doesn't have diesel today. Thank you.
Thank you. Statement of fact. I'd like to clarify something. What was left out of all of those cliffs, where had we done that, ladies and gentlemen, we would be giving our water authority away to the Port Of Corpus Christi. So billions of dollars of infrastructure that you have paid for over decades and those before us would be that would have been handed over to the port for them to control the regional water.
That's why I was against give port the green light to to handle our water. We're the water authority. None of that is said. But mister Rajeev, I appreciate your passion. No. No, sir. We're good. Thank you.
Thanks.
Alrighty. You have a statement of fact, ma'am?
Councilwoman. Statement of fact. I believe what we saw was the option to partner with another entity to provide regional water quickly. That was what was discussed. And I think regardless of the face of that partner, if we can all come together and find water, that's actually what we want. Yeah. Also, I don't think we're supposed to directly call out public commenters.
Yes. So, again, what's always left out as a statement of fact is that our water authority would have been given away to the port. We cannot heads all you want. I was there. So thank you. Christopher Olivarez. Christopher Olivarez. Okay. Now we'll move on, Rebecca, to Webex video.
Yes, ma'am. The first person is Sean Merritt.
Usually do. I do want to, clarify, before I get started that I'll be able to speak, later on on, item 21.
Are you speaking on it now? Or
No. I'm gonna speak on something else now if I'm allowed to speak on item 21 later.
That's fine. Yeah.
If you would if
you're gonna speak about that something else, go ahead.
Alright. Thank you. Sean Mett, District 5. I've been here two years, and there seems to be three sides to this discussion. There's industry, there's residents, there's environmental protection. The issue isn't choosing balance all three evenly? Today, we are running on single digit reservoir levels, limited groundwater that isn't fully online, and future supply that hasn't been built yet. Residents, about 14% of total use, have cut billions of gallons. They're monitored, restricted, enforced. Industry, the largest water user, roughly 60% of the system is industrial use.
Then the pressure isn't accidental. It's by design. And that's not shared responsibility. That's an imbalance. You don't tell a guy eating one bologna sandwich a day, he needs a diet, while the guy at the buffet twenty four seven keeps eating his fill.
And this isn't anti industry. It's about aligning cost with demand. If we build these out a traditional way, costs are gonna go up and get passed to the residents by about 9 to $11 per bill. If we build it smartly, capture brine instead of dumping it, we create revenue that helps stabilize rates and fund the city, and this is already being done. Elah Israel, salt recovery, Reyshal Kea, magnesium recovery, high sand plant, Dubai, large scale solar integrate integration in a similar industrial corridor to ours.
Salt sells anywhere from 50 to $230 per ton. Bromine is currently 2,800 per ton. Magnesium is trading roughly 11,000 to 20,000 per ton depending on market and grade, and this is a key input for fertilizers which ties directly to rising agricultural and food costs. By the way, those home tests that you all are doing, they're showing dissolved minerals. These sow will concentrate those same minerals in the brine stream.
At the Inner Harbor scale, that's roughly 30 to 40,000,000 gallons of brine discharged every single day, billions of gallons a year. And we know PFAS is present. It was identified in the Inner Harbor reports. Desal concentrates that into the brine stream. That's exactly why we shouldn't dump it.
Capture the brine, recover the minerals, and handle contaminants in a controlled process instead of dispersing them in a bay, which, by the way, jet diffusion and ship propellers, they're just gonna spread that around more. So the question isn't how to dispose of the brine and poison the bay. It's how to protect it while monetizing what you call waste. Because if we get this right, desal doesn't just produce water. It helps pay for itself, pays the city back, and supplies our good neighbors. That's how you will learn industry, residents, and environmental stewardship. Industry isn't the problem. Imbalance is. Revelation twenty two seventeen, whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. And I'll be back to talk later. Thank you very much.
Mister Merritt, I'm so sorry. I when I said that you could speak again, we don't do remote when the item comes up. So I'd like to offer you a minute to make your an extra minute to make your comment regarding item 21. My apologies.
I appreciate that, but just a minute is not gonna be enough, for what I've got to say. So I'll just try to condense it the best I can. What we've seen take place, in this council chamber, even today, we saw how rules in the chamber are not always applied consistently, and that matters because of the process of consistency or what how it's how you build public trust. So public comments operate under constitutional law as limited public forum, and access access to to speak speak should be structured consistently. Rules must be applied equally.
When enforcement appears to change based on the message, that standard is not met. Now there are a series of violations that are gonna be, discussed later on. I have about 18 listed here. According to the city charter, only four standards must be met, incompetence, misconduct, malfeasance, neglect of duty. So and, again, this is not a criminal proceeding.
I wanna stress that. This is clearly based on the city's charter and the ethic ethics violations defined therein. So we don't need a criminal proceeding. We don't need any of that other things. If you find any instance of those 18 violations where there was incompetence, misconduct, and feasting of the duty, there you go. Thank you very much for my time.
I appreciate it, sir. Next is Taylor Johnson.
Good afternoon, Taylor Johnson, district five. If you could please play the video that was provided.
Do you have any interest in Elevate QOF LLC? No, sir. You understand that's the company that owns the hotel that's being built downtown. Right? I learned that today. Okay. You know, you voted on it before. Right?
Yes, sir. Okay.
Yes. You voted on it and not knowing who they were?
I just had to be refreshed.
Did you just think of it as Devons and Phillips Project?
Well, I guess not necessarily, no.
Well, you know they own it, right? Yes, sir. Okay. And you knew that when you were voting for it, right?
Yes, sir.
Okay. And because both of them are also political donors of yours, right?
Oh, of course.
Yeah. They believe in good government.
Well, when it gives them 2,000,000 with a forged document. Right? I wouldn't $2,000,000 has been appropriated to a company that is owned by your political donors. Right?
Objection, form.
A Argument.
Yeah. An an incentive has been appropriated for an economic development project. Of which they're own of of which the developer are my
donors. Okay.
$2,000,000.
And your city manager and your assistant city manager have testified that in their opinion, and I know you know they're not you you don't think they're qualified, but in their opinion, it's a forgery. Right? You've seen that testimony. Yes. And you've seen the testimony where Peter, I know you think he's not qualified, but he says, law was broken. Right?
He said there was an appearance of the law.
Okay. And so and then of course, Ajeet came in front of you twice and made the accusation as well twice, right? And showed you where the document, where the federal FEMA website had been altered. He showed that to you, right? Yes. And all of those things have happened and you've told me that the only person that's qualified to investigate it and make a determination about whether or not there's been a crime is somebody in law enforcement. Right? Yes. Okay. So are you going to turn it over to law enforcement to be investigated?
I no. Okay.
That's all I have.
Thank you.
Alright.
Anything from any other questions?
That is all. Thank you.
Thank you. Next is Tracy. My apologies for mispronouncing your last name. Jenk.
Yes. Thank you. Tracy Jenk, district five, I'll ask the video submitted be played at this time.
Yeah. I know you've admitted it's your slide, and I know you've you're the one who created the slide. I have a very specific question for you. Did you drop that text box, the one that's shown right now, the larger one that obscures the release date and the release number, did you drop that text box there?
I already told you that I had done that, yes. That it was a there was a
And did you drop the second text box that's now highlighted that again obscures the release date? Again, it was a formatting issue This went an omission. This was somebody obscuring data on a federal slide. Right?
Yes. But
that I know. Different than an omission. Right?
Right.
Okay. That's what makes it criminal as opposed to an accident. Right? And I understand.
Oh, definitely. Right. It was altered. And then when you read the entire PowerPoint, the it's so it's so obvious that the the reader or the writer wanted one to be led to believe that the FEMA was just recent, even where it's, like, recently released and this and that. And part of it goes back to the narrative. Mike Culberson said, You know, we can't this has to be tied to infrastructure. And so then they they catch the scheme that, okay. FEMA floodplain, that's infrastructure. You know, the the the the fixing the bottom floor so it it meets the floodplain, and they stuck with it.
Got it.
And then they then they then they develop a narrative to fit it that they just found out because people would say like, shit. They should have known about this long time ago.
After review of the presentations, deposition testimony, investigative materials, and applicable Texas and federal penal statutes, the PowerPoint slide at issue appears to have been intentionally altered to cover the dates that appear on the government website.
You agree that documents were altered. There's no doubt about that.
The the screenshot was definitely altered. Yes.
Did it look intentional? Can you, as a police officer I mean, you look at stuff like this. You can say
So it would be hard to argue that it was not.
Thank you.
I think what you're telling me is during that time frame, you were not in the loop as to what the findings were for the investigation? Correct. And so therefore you had no knowledge that it was something illegal in the process that you were voting on?
There was Okay. Right. Okay.
That's all. Thank you.
Okay.
Thank you. Justin O'Neil.
Video that I provided.
I'm sorry?
Justin O'Neill, district five, could you please pay the
Go ahead. I come before you today because I'm really appalled that our city is being sued. It's being sued because of all the lack of process from this council. Our illustrious mayor is named 31 times in this lawsuit. Also, one of the things that really bothered me in looking at this lawsuit is that it says mayor Paulette Guajardo privately solicited a fellow councilman's vote during the public meeting in violation of Texas government code section five five one point zero two one and five five one point one four three.
You know, to me, you are the keepers of the process of Corpus Christi. Your job is not to run the city, it's to set up policy. I was also appalled that council member Barrera went on television and chaistised the city manager, which would to me is a violation in itself for publicly reprimanding an employee in public on television. So it seems to me that this council people need to go back and review what their job is to set policy not to run the city. Set policy not to run the city.
So I am very appalled at this behavior. I'm grateful that the person filing the lawsuit is not asking for money from the taxpayers. He's making a request to get it straightened out in your process. It's a shame that we, the citizens, have to go through this extreme in order to get things done by this council, and especially the people who I've named. So have a great day.
You too, Miss Saldana.
Thank you. That's all.
Thank you.
Next is Trevor
Hello. Can you hear me?
Yes. We can.
Trevor LeBlong, District 4. Oh, I couldn't make it today. My informanties get the best of me quite often. I've been watching as much as I can and trying to pay attention.
served with a squadron, b a w one fifteen on the USS Midway, home ported in Yakuska, Japan, which is our sister city, which everybody's always surprised when I point that out. I think there should be a lot of more coverage on that to bring international, borders together. But during that time, I served during operation earnest will when the USS Stark was fired upon. And in that time, the admiral gathered us in the folks hole and said, I'm gonna make a a huge demand of y'all. I want you to have an e two c Hawkeye on Station 247 until I say stop.
That was a huge undertaking because we only had four aircraft. So you have to cover the time to be in on station and back and having one there all the time. And in that time, our squadron won the AEW excellence award from the Navy back to back and the, Battle E and Safety Award. So I have seen good leadership in my life. And as a crew leader on the base, for a good long time, fifteen years or so, I saw a lot of good leadership out there.
I'm not seeing it in this case. Back in August, of 2025, August 21, actually, I had messaged my councilwoman, Kaelin. How you doing, Kaelin? Glad you're there. About, maybe a sample project at the airport to give the whole airport covered parking with solar panels and huge banks of dehumidifiers.
I haven't seen any kind of thinking outside the box like that or maybe, a huge campaign to get residents to get rain barrels. We need more thinking outside of the box like that. And I think trying to do that would help exercise the minds of the city council members who who might need it to help realize that the Inner Harbor is not a place for a desal project. I came, I think it was back in October and addressed the council in person because I was able to make it that day.
Thank you, sir. Your your time is up.
No way. That wasn't three minutes.
It was. Man.
Thank you. Next is Laura Madden.
Hello?
Yes, Ms. Madden.
Hello?
Can you hear us?
Hi, can you hear me?
Yes, we can.
Okay. Thank you for allowing me to take the opportunity to speak today. Lord Madden District District 1. So I keep hearing everybody talk about how many votes the mayor got, and I'm not sure where that comes into play because the mayor didn't take any votes away from any other council members. We all, as a community, voted for the mayor and then voted for our district representative.
So it really doesn't have any play in how many votes she got. I think that we need to stop chastising the, other council members for following city procedures. You know? Blame the citizen just you have to blame somebody that wanted to put a petition into, action. I don't know how much how we got to give so much power to the mayor that the mayor could have held this off for so long for so many months.
And then all of a sudden, we wanna, address it because months have gone by. And now it's like, everyone is against the citizen for actually bringing something to attention that needs to be noticed. We have a council member for each district, and each council member represents the ones in their district. And the mayor and, you know, in case everybody has forgotten what a mayor does, a mayor acts as the chief executive officer of a city or town responsible responsible for for overseeing daily operations, managing municipal departments like the police, fire, and public works, and implementing city laws. They work with the city council to set policies, budgets, and service the main public representatives.
But each district has a representative. You know, the mayor does not act as, you know, the one person that makes all the decisions, and everybody is upset at the council members and, you know, calling them three or five because they voted the way they should. They're not going against the mayor. They're just voting what the district wants. And, you know, using social media and the tea lady and the tea guy and the car salesperson to, conduct your, business is not right.
I don't see any other council members going to the Konica or the T Lane.
You very much,
miss Madden. Address.
Your time is up.
Okay. Thank you so much.
Thank you, ma'am. Micah Hunt Hertz, are you online? Okay. How about Alberto Sertuche?
Hello?
Yes. Mister Sertuche?
Give me just a second. Okay. I got a quick question before we start. The, I saw earlier that y'all gave a gentleman an extra minute because he was gonna he was on video call rather than in person to speak on the agenda item. Mhmm.
No. I did that because I when the gentleman asked me at the beginning of public comment whether he could speak twice, I I misspoke and told him that he could. So what we did what I did is offered him an extra minute. That way he could still make his comments since I since I misspoke and gave him the wrong information. So if you're just be you can address both topics now, sir, in the three minutes
if that's your if that's your goal.
But I'll still only be reduced to the three minutes. Correct?
Yes, sir. Well, that's the it's not a reduction. That's the time that that's Okay.
Alright. My name is Albert Santucci at district three. I'm a veteran owned business with Hard Lives Bait and Tackle on a YouTube channel called team Hard Life. I started paying attention to what's going on in politics and where the money is going and not going. I have seen pay raises for city officials while closing in or reducing public service areas while streets get neglected, city water problems on the rise, and city where the monies that are asked for for taxpayers or businesses that charge the public for entry, launder their proper, the American Bank Center being one, amongst dozens of other failed projects.
Also seen where they fear mongering over the selling of overselling water while not holding industries accountable for what they are using while taxing the taxpayers and making them pay for it all. Our property taxes grew over $20,000 in one year. How in the world does that happen? What is that supposed to be paid for? Thank god Paxton is looking into this for the state of Texas.
I kept up with the detailed information that is being given and made public. When the mayor ran for office and used the promises for those who voted for her, years later, we have seen where those promises turned into lies. We have seen where the mayor keeps saying all of the tests that have been done, another lie, being told to the public. The bar pill models haven't been done. The deal hasn't been done.
While she speaks down to those who don't support the experimental diesel plant because it truly is an economical and ecological disaster waiting to happen. Where is the transparency and accountability to what is being told to the public? Why is this city chartered? And this is why the city charter is important. Where there have been other proposed desalinization plants or sites with way better and easier ways to produce water to get rid of the brine into deeper water and more.
Don't release the sludge TCEQ to stop the permits where the pollution is gonna be released into the saltwater environments, killing our base estuaries and killing hundreds of local businesses. I was an abused child and seeing this firsthand and having seen where the mayor publicly attacked citizens when they addressed it, the attacks of abusive men against women within our city. And this is her her is this her way of saying she's defending abusive men, or are those who defend her also okay with abusive men? We see where there are so many questions not being answered also on the plant. How much will the city be held accountable if the experimental plant gets approved and then has to be stopped because of the pollution in the bays that's too extreme?
Who is who and how much is it gonna cost to clean our bays, the estuaries, and regol all the death created by the brine and sludge? What it's gonna cost to remove the hazardous materials, truckers, driver permits, and so forth for the new experimental desal plant? She demanded her questions to be answered. Why aren't you getting the questions that we're asking answered?
Thank you very much, sir. Alright. Mayor, that concludes the public comment period.
Thank you, Rebecca. We're gonna go to boards and committee appointments now.
Alright. The first board for your review is the airport board, which has four openings. Ricardo Talavera, Jeremy Taylor, and Mark Almaguer are seeking reappointment.
I move to reappoint. Second.
We have a motion and a second. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed, say no. The motion carries.
Okay. And then that would leave you with one position to fill.
Okay. We'll open
Oh, I'm so one moment, mayor. Can gentlemen, can you show the on the screen, our control room, the our voting template, please? Thank you very much. Alright. Okay. So to start nominations, mayor.
Thank
you. We're opening nominations. And this is for one vacancy. Correct?
Yes, ma'am. Mhmm.
So Jeremy Taylor?
Did. We'll
nominate Michael
Sanders. Michael Sanders. Anyone else? Alex Garcia. Is there anyone else? In closing nominations, and we are again trying to fill one vacancy.
Yes, ma'am.
I'll start with Councilman Vaughn.
Sanders.
Sanders.
Garcia.
Garcia?
Sanders.
Sanders.
Garcia.
Okay. Mr. Sanders is appointed. Okay. Next is the Board of Adjustment, which has seven vacancies.
And are categorized as follows, five regular members and two alternate members. Staff recommends postponing the filling of one alternate position to allow for further recruitment. And please note that the board typically requests the appointment of an alternate member to an open regular member position and the appointment of a new individual to fill the alternate position. Board members Croson, Manzaneres, Lopez, Rios, San Miguel, and Potter are seeking reappointment in their attendant. Okay.
And we have a motion and a second to reappoint. All in favor say aye.
And any opposed say no. The motion carries.
So Alan Potter is currently serves as an alternate member. And the board requests that he be appointed as a regular member to fill the vacancy left by Sukory.
I move for approval.
We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed say no. The motion carries.
Okay. So then that creates that vacancy for an alternate member, and that's what we're asking you to delay right now. Delay that appointment for additional recruitment. So that concludes that one. Next, we have the Coastal Bend Council of Governments. There's one vacancy. City manager Zanoni recommends the appointment of Michael Dice.
Second.
We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed say no. The motion carries.
Okay. Then we have the Corpus Christi Regional Economic Development Corporation. There's one vacancy for a city representative.
Oh. What?
We're gonna open nominations. Okay. So you have Javier who? Huerta. Muerta.
Moses Mastagashi.
Okay. Moses. Any other nominations for the one vacancy? And this is filling a a term?
Yes, ma'am. Right.
Okay. Well Do you
have one?
Say that again. I didn't
We have Moses Matsugashi.
No. What
Oh, this is to fill a
term. Okay.
Yeah. Okay. We'll close nominations, and I will start with councilman Kentu.
Moses.
Moses.
Did you get that? Sorry, mine's Mascagassi. Yes.
Mascagassi.
Okay. So Moses Mustagashi is appointed. Next, we have the Crime Control and Prevention District. There's one vacancy. Each council member appoints a board member subject to confirmation by the full council. Council member Barrera nominates Billy Bellew as his appointee. If we could entertain a motion to
I I move for approval.
Okay.
Okay. We have a motion and a second. All in favor, aye. Aye. Any opposed, say no. The motion carries.
Okay. Next is the reinvestment zone number seven, the London area board. On March 25, Nueces County appointed Bart Brazelton to the board, and that's on instead of commissioner Mike Pusley, and that would that is subject to counsel confirmation.
Move to approve.
Second.
All in favor, say aye.
Any opposed, say no. The motion carries.
Okay. And last is the senior core advisory committee. There's one vacancy for a senior companion program, SCP volunteer category. At this point, there's only one applicant. It is difficult to fill because it is that one particular category. So we bring it for your consideration.
Move to approve. Second. All in favor say aye.
Any opposed say no. The motion carries.
Thank you very much. And that is to appoint Maria Castanuela for Yes. The Thank you very much, mayor and council.
Thank you, Rebecca. Do we have any requests to pull any items on the consent agenda items three through 14 to consider individually from the council?
Number seven number 12.
Number seven number 12. Okay. And do we have any requests from the public to pull an item to make public comment at this time? What what item is that? Anybody else? Yes, sir. Number seven? Okay. So that's already pulled. Does anybody else would anyone else like to make public comment?
Four? Okay. Okay. So I'm going to entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda with the exception of items four, seven, and 12. Second. Okay. We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed say no.
The motion carries. We are going to break for lunch and then we will return and discuss those items. So the council is going to go into executive session on items 23 through 25 per texas government code sections five hundred fifty one point zero seven one and five hundred fifty one point zero seven two we will return Okay. We're gonna reconvene our meeting. And we had left off on section I, our consent agenda.
We had three items pulled. Number four is
being I held think we have a motion after the executive session.
Oh, okay.
Okay. Not yet. I'm sorry. My apology.
Okay. We had item four pulled for public comment and that is a briefing on annual operations of Foresight Corpus Christi Gulf. Who had public comment on item number four? You pulled four. Did you have comment on number four?
I I was waiting for the presentation on it. That's why I had pulled
Was it for There's no presentation. Yeah. There's no presentation. You you you were pulling it for public comment. Do we need Rebecca, if she pulled in when I asked, is there public comment on any items of consent? And number four was pulled.
Yes. But it was for public comment. Yeah.
Right. So, miss Carriero, if you wanna do public comment on it, now is your chance.
All passed.
Alright. I'll make a motion to approve.
Second. Motion.
Okay. We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed say no. The motion carries. Item number seven was the next item pulled that is a resolution to authorize the amended treatment or treated water supply contract with the Nueces County Water Control and Improvement District number three, Councilman Hernandez. Your question or comment? This
is and if you wanna go ahead and do the presentation on this, that's fine. What I was trying to, wanted to get more information on specifically for public consumption is what the total cost is, and what it is on a per thousand gallon basis that we're charging Wicked three.
Okay. Wesley, Wesley Nebian. I'm director of water systems infrastructure. So on the what we will be charging them is going what we would normally be charging them if they were a wholesale customer would be the dollar 80 per per thousand of for treated water.
Okay. Wait a minute. We are you talking not about the raw water. The raw water is a dollar 18, but treated water should be $2.00 7, not a dollar 80.
The rate for treated world wholesales is dollar 80.
Okay. Wait a minute. That's not what we've been charging our okay. So when we do a comparison on cost, we do what the raw water cost is, which is right now is a dollar 18 per thousand.
Right? Mhmm.
Since it's their raw water that we're treating, since they can't treat it themselves, we're not charging them for the raw water. I get that. But we've always But we'd always had the estimates for treating that water at $2.00 7. Wait. At what point in time did we have a different cost for wholesalers?
part of the
Part of the ordinance. Wait.
Let finish. Let me finish. And we have different contracts with different wholesalers that apply that have different costs associated with them on that one. So why is this since this does not have a contract, why are we giving them that specific rate?
Because by that rate is for wholesalers who take it at the source of of the meter, does does not use the network. Like, for example, Alice, which has a different treated rate. So we treat this one as a wholesaler who takes it at the source.
Does that is that also apply to our the cut
Gulf Coast
Growth Ventures because they don't they're not using our system. Mhmm. So they're getting it at the dollar 80 treated rate as well?
Yeah. The same as South Texas Water Authority.
South because it's their pipeline. Yes. And it's a dollar 80 what?
For the treated. Dollar 80.
Just a dollar 80.
For the treated.
You break that down? Can you break that down in terms of cost?
In which way?
How much? What does it cost? I mean, you know, you usually have a breakdown as to how much it cost to treat water. Is that how is it is is there an additional cost for treating water? Because it and and let me see if I can explain this. We'd already said that anything coming out of Owen Stevens was that cost. That's what you cost to treat it. We didn't include transmission costs, we didn't include distribution, we'd include meters. Just what comes out of Owen Stevens, and that was $2.00 7.
Mhmm.
Can you tell me how that's different even though they're not using our system, but we're still calculating it beyond Owen Stevens.
I would have to pull the I don't have the rate model in front of me. I will have to pull it to to exactly separate it for you. But that's that's the rate that is calculated in the rate model that is part of the annual ordinance for rates for the different for the different source for the different customers.
Okay. So Peter, that you're gonna have to try and get this explained to us a lot better than than how it is right now. Because if we're talking about them using their system or their pipeline, well, we're talking about cost coming out of Owen Stevens, not necessarily using the transmission line or any of our systems. So how does that I I wanna make sure I understand how that works, not only for this particular contract, but for other contracts.
We can we can definitely go over as part of the rate that we can have that discussion. It's always been that that way.
It's it's the first time I've heard about it. I've been on council for seven years that there was a different treatment rate for for wholesale than than regular treatment.
K. But we
will remove specifics as to what the difference is. That's what? 25¢ per thousand gallon, 27¢ per thousand gallons?
Please. Yeah. Somewhere around 27¢. Yes.
Okay. That's a lot of money over time, over volume. So I wanna just make sure I understand how you got that.
We can go over that in the rate that's in the model.
Well, I I expect you'd bring it back to us before then.
Yeah. That's not a problem.
Whether it's a memo or or direct discussion, I expect to have that information.
K. Thanks. Absolutely. Yes, sir.
Thank you.
May I
have question, please?
Mhmm. Councilwoman Campos.
Well, I I went ahead and just looked it up about I went to our utility water service rate schedule. And, again, did you just say that the one let's see. 1,000 gallons outside is a dollar 80?
For the treated water from Owen Stevens, it's not on the rate schedule. The rate schedule includes other the transmission, the distribution costs, other aspects of it.
Okay. Where is the like he said, where where is that other amount? The $2.00 something? $2.00 7?
The the treated water costs are embedded in the rate model as part of your rate. It's it's part of the
overall It's not listed anywhere here?
No. It won't be listed. That's an aggregate of all the costs associated with distribution, transmission, treatment, everything that goes into it.
Wow. Okay. Yeah. No. We definitely need a breakdown because I I did not realize that. I see the raw water rates inside and outside at a dollar 18. Raw water for non rate payers, a dollar 36. And then for resell, a dollar 33. So none of that is accurate?
That's the raw water rate. That's
That's not the
That's not the treated water rate. The treated water rate that you will see on our schedule of values include your distribution cost, your pumping, your treatment costs, all of those, combined in the system.
Okay. Yeah. It doesn't show it at all. Okay. Yeah. I sure would like to see that. Thank you.
Councilman Venerta.
Here. But the only item that we're voting on is the fact that that it's no cost to them if the TDS is over 1,000.
That is correct. The if the TDS is over a thousand and we have wells running, it's an and statement. We have to have both going on. Then we provide them water at no cost.
So I move for approval.
Okay. Have a motion and a second. Yes. Yes, sir. We sure do. Thank you. I'm gonna go ahead and open public comment. Come on down. Item number seven.
Thank you. Chris Cuellar, Nueces County. I come to speak on agenda item number seven as a member of the River Acres Water Supply Corporation and a receiver of the new Asus County WCID number three water distribution system. I make the following comments to ensure transparency and that two conditions of this three year, agreement are made public. Notice I say a three year agreement.
This agreement states that CCW will provide up to 3,000,000 gallons of treated water to WCID number three for a term up to three years due to the elevated TDS that has been created by CCW's groundwater conveyance into the new Asus River. Condition one that's not publicized is WCID number three must perpetually support CCW on all future projects that may influence the Nueces River and its quality. Condition two, WCID, number three, may never, for perpetuity, oppose CCW's future actions with regards to the Nueces River. That's not confidence. This is legal bribe bribery to remove a senior water rights holder the ability to have any say on the condition of their sole water source as well as hinders their ability to advocate for their own constituents for perpetuity.
Another
example of the
good neighbor program thank you.
Thank you sir.
Rachel Kawaiero D1. Part of this contract says city can take treated water from the district should the city deem it necessary. The not to exceed reimbursement amount stated in section 18 is to reduce the total dollar amount of the city's cost of construction. So this is proof that whenever the legal department wants to make a contract that is in favor of the city, they can. I want to apologize to the community of Robstown for what the city of Corpus Christi is trying to do with their water and that they have weak management in their water district and a horrible lawyer. Thank you.
Scott Barraza, Nueces County. I can't help but to think this agreement is very much like a well mitigation plan I've been asking about. It spells out the what, the when, and the cost on it even though it's not a well they're mitigating. It's the river water. You already got 1,700,000.0 in damages there, coming out, as a result of these wells because the wells have, in essence, wrecked the river. Two miles south of the Wesley Seal Dam in Jim Wells County Used to be a lot of fish. We see them gar swimming in fish. Now we just see the turtles. Don't know why. Don't know if it's a TDS or the arsenic.
One concern I have with this agreement, it is I believe it's necessary because Robstown needs clean water, so it is very necessary that they get clean water. However, I have a concern with the contaminants remaining after those three years. You're gonna provide them water at no cost as long as the TDS is above a thousand and you're pumping. What happens when you stop pumping, but the TDS remains over a thousand or there's other contaminants like arsenic coming out of the wells that remain in the river, that you are now gonna hold WCID three hostage and sell them water back, as a result of your actions? Thank you.
Thank you, sir. Anyone else? This is item number seven. Come on down.
Julian Hernandez, District 3. I guess I didn't fully read that but some of the information that mister Hernandez or one of the council members mentioned about getting the whole rate and it brought up a question for me and I'm just you know thinking in the background. I know if if we lock in rate well, as as budgets to go up, the residents pay a difference. We always get a rate change or anything like that. And then noticing these these contracts that go through here, what have you, the question comes to mind, do those contracts change?
Do their rates go up? Are they locked in at the time that these contracts are made? Whatever it is. As a public member, my rates go up. I'd like to know if their rates go up as well.
I did have a question on know Ms. Caballero brought up an agenda item and I was going to ask about that before we moved on or you guys moved on. Is she the only one allowed to comment on that or I wasn't asked if the body wasn't asked if we can comment on any of what she wanted to bring up. It just kinda went on to the next next issue. So because I actually wanted to talk in about something about that, but I said it was moved on and we were never asked if if we had any if anybody else had any other comment other than her.
No. It's because she pulled the item earlier.
Right. I I I got that part and she didn't make comment on it. But does that open it up for everybody else? Because she pulled it so if she was gonna make I I was gonna make a comment in reference to it. When y'all moved on, there were I don't know what decorum is if if because she pulled it even though she didn't have a comment, does it open the floor for other folks to make comment?
And he's nodding his head yes. So that tells me that, I know there are certain council members that come in and say I moved to pass it and I think that's a tactic to get everybody just to put it on the board and move it on. But yet the quorum I think if if that's the quorum nobody was asked if they want to comment about it. And so Yeah.
It's just an an understood thing. I apologize that you didn't.
But it's
Like right now where y'all just got up.
Everybody's Right. But Yep. I wanted to bring that back to your attention because I wouldn't
Thank you.
Afford the opportunity.
Thank you. Appreciate it. Councilman or is there anyone else? Okay. Gonna close public comment. Councilman Scott.
I just wanna point out how interesting it is to have Charlie Zahn's competent questions confidence question in a council meeting. Mister Zahn, thank you for being here. I think the WCID number three is here on their own free will, and they support the the the contract. Peter, thank you for you and your group and working with these folks in Robstown to make sure that we're all to the best of our ability. I mean, nobody wants to be here. Right? Nobody wants to be in this predicament. But I think we've done the best that we could with our with our neighbors, and it's a good agreement. And, I just wanted to say I appreciate you all and appreciate you and your team, Peter. Thank you, mayor.
Councilman Hernandez.
Just real quick. I wanted clarification on the contract. Are we restricting them from opposing anything that we're doing in the future with regards to the Noises River?
My understanding of the contract is that for the three years that we have the contract, if we apply for a bed and banks permit, for the wellfields, things like that, they could not, they would not oppose those those to TCEQ. But it's not perpetual all the way into the future. It's only for the term of the contract.
So just for the three years, and that's where the prices hold at the dollar 80? If it's below if it's below a thousand TDS, it's
I wanna clarify and actually answers the question. It's the rate that the council sets in the ordinance. So for this ordinance that is applied that went into effect on January 1, the rate for treated water is $1.0.8 We recalculate that as part of the service study for the rates every year. We bring a new ordinance to counsel that adjusts prices for everybody, including wholesalers, large volume commercial So if the price, when it gets calculated for next year, changes and we have an amendment to the rates, that will be the new rate.
The reason I asked that question about how restricting their ability to say anything is it reminds me of when the port leased out the their I guess, the the boat slips over there in Port Aransas, and they weren't allowed to complain or or say anything about what the port was doing without affecting their their agreement. Is that what are the, what are the consequences if they have a disagreement with you on something with the Noisis River?
At this point, I'm I'm not quite following what
I mean, would we cut them off? No. If they disagreed with us on the
I believe they have terms in here. No. We no. Would not if they disagreed with we have the ability to terminate the contract just as they do at any point during
No. I understand that. You know? But what I'm saying is if we're affecting the I mean, we're it may not be us completely. Right? Obviously, we can be affecting the TDS within the within the river depending on how much well water we put in. Right? And that would affect their ability to treat water. But I want them to be able to redress any issues with us without consequences of us cutting them off. Is that what you're trying was what I'm trying to say is that we shouldn't hold a a hammer over their head if they disagree with us.
No. I I fully agree, and I think we've been working together on the on many issues that we've had. I mean, would you
Yeah. We can have lawyer Charlie Zahn can speak to that.
My name is Charlie Zahn, and I'm counsel for WCID number three. We did I I worked a provision to the last provision, mister Hernandez, that we worked out in this agreement with miss Aguilar that in the event we have a dispute such that you're talking about, we have 30 that both parties must sit down and try to negotiate an agreement between the parties before the city of Corpus Christi could terminate the contract.
Okay. So, Charlie, I just wanna make sure that we're treating you fairly. Right? That we're not bullying you into doing anything. And it you know, sometimes we're the big bad, you know, wolf of Corpus Christi.
Believe that we're happy, and I would tell you, I believe the citizens of Robstown, contrary to what you heard a few minutes ago, are gonna be happy with the agreement that we have because they're now assured in the future that they have an adequate supply of water in the event that we're unable to treat water out of the the new Asis River Basin.
Okay. Well, Charlie, you have my contact information. If you come across any issues, you let me know. Thank you.
And then, mayor, if I could, I do wanna thank your staff for working with us. City manager, Zanoni and and Miles and your legal staff, they worked with us. We had some tough issues that we had to, respond to. I would tell you that the first time we took this to my board, it was three to two. Last night, it was five o.
Thank you, mister Zahn. We do have a motion and a second, so please submit your vote. The motion carries. The next item pulled was item number 12. That is a one reading ordinance amending city code of ordinances chapter 55 article 12 water resource management section 55 dash one fifty updating the city's drought contingency plan providing an effective date of 04/14/2026. Can did you you wanna make a comment now? Yes.
I I pulled it. Yes. I just wanted to see if we, could have just a little bit more time if we could just, postpone it until our next scheduled meeting, mayor. Postpone until the next
And for what reason?
So that we can have more time to review the language on the code of the ordinance.
So why don't are are you presenting on this?
Yes, ma'am.
Well, let's present on this and see what Okay. Exactly is gonna be Sure. What information is gonna be given to us.
Okay. For the record, hello, mayor council. My name is Esteban Ramos. I am the assistant director of water resources or water supply management. The item before you is a motion authorizing update to the water resource management ordinance chapters 55, article 12, water resource management to include two new definitions.
And so the on the twenty fourth, we heard from council and a discussion on adding the verbiage or language of essential water use in auxiliary water supply. Next slide. So the motion that we have today again is to add those two definitions and to make the changes within the DCP to cover those two new definitions suggested by city council on the twenty fourth. And again, that is defined by essential water use. And essential water use is going to be defined by water use necessary to sustain public health, welfare, safety, sanitation, and fire protection, along with the definition of auxiliary water supply, water supply from a source that does not originate from Corpus Christi water supply system, whether treated or raw.
With those two updates, I believe I feel that the it adds clarification to the DCP and provides extra, support for the intent protecting our water supply.
And, miss Stefon, we are not doing anything different than what the chief and I guess, I wanna know from you if you're okay with this. I don't wanna do anything against what some of the
things you
stated last time we talked about this.
Yes, ma'am. Brandon Wade, fire chief. So that's correct. So we put the language of the definitions that we talked about before, utilizing the words the public, its health, welfare, safety, sanitation, and fire protection that was already used throughout the document. We just put it into a definition and then updated the DCP throughout it, and the ordinance to reflect that definition. And then, again, added the auxiliary water supply, which we talked about water wells or a source coming from outside. So that's what the update was. I think this is a good plan and and exactly what we talked about.
Okay. So the process is not changing.
The process
the process is not changing. We just added the recommended language in there.
Okay. Great. Councilman Hernandez.
Okay. So this this addressed what councilwoman Paxson had brought, and she's not here, but, had brought previously to address her the issue she had, asked for. Right?
Yes, sir.
Okay. So what happened to all the other discussions we had during the workshop, the water workshop, or definitions for multifamily housing and all that stuff? Is that coming back at a later time? What what are we doing there?
Yes. Under my understanding during that discussion was to take additional comments because on the workshop for the twenty first, we are gonna talk more about curtailment, definition of allocations. We're gonna work our discussion through that. I thought it was proper to bring all that so that we wouldn't be keep on amending the DCP and amending DCP. So that was kinda the intent.
That would yeah. Councilman, that that will come back to city council if there's a council meeting on the twenty eighth. That's a recommendation on the agenda today is to make the twenty first another workshop.
So we're we're going to amend the DCP twice?
Yes. Or more than once? Twice at least. Councilwoman Paxson and and the three signature memo that was brought forth several weeks ago talked about doing this immediately. And so that's that was the majority of the council wanted to do it immediately. We recommended doing them do everything what at one time, but we have we can do this now if you want, just adjusting the definition, and this will bring back the DCP on the twenty eighth.
Okay. So that that's when this came up, I was saying, well, we we haven't done any of the other edits. We should've
should've This was at the recommendation of counsel. We we didn't recommend this doing multiple changes, but we we we can support it because it's a minor amendment here.
I I mean, I I if you wanna do this in piece mail, that's okay. I was gonna ask to to table this until we got all the amendments ready to go.
But Okay.
We wanna
do this now. I'll defer to
Can you sign the three signature memo again? That was three I don't
have Right. I mean, I I'll defer to councilwoman Paxson if she wants to move forward with this right now or wait until the until the other amendments come in. But, I mean, I don't have a problem
with that.
I just didn't understand why we're doing this in pieces.
It was a request of the three signature memo.
Mhmm. Okay. Thank you.
Councilwoman Campos.
I'll I'll defer to councilwoman Paxson. Alright. Councilwoman Paxson.
Thank you.
appreciate this being added. I read through everything that was redlined. I'm okay with most of that, and I appreciate the work that went into it. I do have a question. In the packet, in the redlined version, page 26 under section 16.1.
One of the recommendations is to strike domestic water use from that under the declaration of policy purpose and intent. I think based on page one of the red lined document that you would leave that in there, and then that would cause consistency of the declaration of purpose. Under the introduction, it's outlining that that's
So so I understand what you're describing. Instead of saying or leave the essential water use, you're just you would continue the sentence that say domestic water use, sanitary.
It says in order to conserve the avail available water supply and or to protect the integrity of water supply facilities with particular regard for, and then we're discussing adding essential water use. Mhmm. And then we're striking the previous definitions of what we were particular regarding to protect water. I believe under essential water use that covers sanitation, fire protection, public health, and such items. But what it doesn't is the domestic water use, which throughout the document, we've consistently identified domestic water use as a priority to protect.
We can put that language back in. The chief's shaking his head. Right? So it'll be essential and domestic water use would be the modification? Yes. Okay. We would we would support that recommendation if the council does that amendment.
Okay. Mhmm.
Okay. So do I need to make a motion to amend before we vote on the item?
I think so. Yeah.
Check
yeah. Yes. Okay. So I'd like to make a motion to keep domestic water use written in section 16.1.
Second.
Okay. We have a motion and a second. Please submit your vote. Thank you.
We do have voice vote, please.
All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed say no. The motion carries. Aye. Oh, Councilman McCoy has an aye. Okay. So that takes us to item 15. This is
And we just need to approve it as amended. Yeah.
Oh. Okay. Right.
So move. Do we have a motion?
Do we have Right.
Motion to approve as amended.
As amended. We
have a motion. Hold on a second. No. Did we? We did not. Did we do a public comment?
No. Okay. It's a consent item. I think at the beginning you asked if there were any comments. But if you wanna ask for it again, you can.
Well, is there anyone in the audience that would like to make comment on twelve? Okay. There being none, we'll close public comment. And we have a motion and a second. Please submit your vote.
K. The motion carries. Now that takes us to item 15. This is a zoning case number ZN 9062 Gulfway Mobile Home Park in District 4.
Good afternoon, mayor, council. Yvette Wallace, interim director development services. Before you today is zoning case Z N 9062 Gulfway Mobile Home Park. The property is in District 4 with a request to rezone the subject property from the C G 2, which is the general commercial district to a CG 2 with an SP, a special permit. The subject property will have a new, 95 foot telecommunication tower replacing the existing one.
The purpose of this request is to allow the replacement of the telecommunication tower of 95 feet. The property is part of the Bayside Area Development Plan adopted on 12/10/2024, and the subject parcel is zoned c g two general commercial district today. Eight notices were mailed inside the 200 foot buffer, zero notices, mailed outside the 200 foot buffer, zero notices were received in opposition, and zero notices were received in favor. The proposed rezoning is consistent with the elements and the goals of the City Of Corpus Christi comp plan. However, it's inconsistent with the future land use designation of government.
The applicant's request is compatible with the existing zoning and conforming uses of the nearby properties as a general necessity and use within the very limited activities. The property to be rezoned is suitable for the use to be permitted by the special permit to be applied and staff determined that the zoning map amendment will not have a negative impact upon the surrounding neighborhood. Planning Commission and staff recommend approval of the special permit and there are conditions for the special permit. So the special permit only allows the use is allowed by right in the c g two and a wireless telecommunication facility of 95 feet in height that meets all applicable adopted building regulations. It also allows for off street parking meeting the UDC seven point two point two off street parking.
And then the time limit is twelve months unless the building permit has been submitted. The special permit shall expire expire if the use is discontinued for more than six months. And I stand by for any questions.
Councilwoman Paxton. Thank you.
It it doesn't have that there was any comments from the public. Did we receive any sort of feedback on this?
We did not. So, we sent out the notices and received no favor or opposition.
Okay. And, you had listed in here that it wasn't entirely consistent with
It is not consistent with the future land use map, which identified government.
Okay. But you're still recommending approval?
Correct. There's an existing telecommunication tower there that's 84 feet, and this is a replacement of that tower to a 95 foot tower.
Okay. Perfect.
Yes, ma'am.
Perfect. We have a motion and a second. I'm gonna open public hearing. Is there anyone in the audience that would like to make comment on item number 15? Okay. We'll close public hearing. Please submit your vote. K. The motion carries. Section l is individual consideration items 16 through 21. Item 16 is a resolution revising the twenty twenty six calendar year city council meeting schedule.
I move for approval. Second.
Councilwoman Paxton. Peter, the my understanding is the reason or the rationale behind this request was to facilitate action to be taken on the twenty eighth. And at this point, we don't have it confirmed that we'll be able to take action potentially because the far field results.
Yeah. So this this item, was more so to, give the council appropriate information on the level one water level one water emergency policy issues. So we had contemplated doing those on the twenty eighth, waiting to the vote on the twenty eighth. Excuse me. We had we had contemplated doing those the next meeting, but our but we wanna give the council more follow-up from the first workshop that we had and do a little more policy introduction.
That would be the second meeting next week. And then votes on those policy issues would be on the twenty eighth. So it's less the change here on the calendar is not about the desal vote or not. It's about having good information for us giving the council good information to take policy votes on what could be used in a level one water emergency.
Okay.
Thank you.
But you're right. On the far field, that information will begin to communicate with the public. There may be a slight delay now in getting the far field study done because of a change at Spheros, the company that we hired to do the to do the work.
They've asked for
They've asked for up to another thirty days. Right.
Okay. I'm gonna ask for public comment. Is there anyone in the audience that would like to make public comment on item number 16?
Julian Hernandez District District 3. I feel like a repetitive deal and I apologize for coming in all the time and and making comments. I made a comment on on changing the city council meetings when it was first imposed. Bless you. When it was the first imposed and I believe one of the council members mentioned and I said something about a slippery slope that we've already cut off time for the public to speak at five.
We moved them to twelve noon. I could see it coming that once we start moving the council meetings or making them into workshops then it's gonna be an ongoing effect. And now here we are. If I read this understand this correctly we're we're getting rid of another council meeting is that what I understood? And that's where I mentioned back then that we're setting the table for those slippery slope to oh, we'll just now we got less comment. We got less people coming in to communicate with counsel. And and that's where I was at then and now it's coming to flourish and now if I understand what y'all are reading correctly. Thank you.
Thank you, sir. And if you need clarity on that, Peter, if you can have your staff provide that clarity. Anyone else?
Saldana and in order for us to make a true public comment does that mean you're gonna cut down on one meeting? That's what we need to know because if it's cutting down on meetings, you all need all the time you can get. I realize that right now you have one, you actually have three meetings a month, regular meetings. Now I realize you're putting a lot of extra time on other things. All we as a public wanna know is are you cutting down on one meeting going down to two? If that is so, then I have a problem with it. If it is not and it's just a temporary thing, that's a difference. So we need clarification.
Okay. Thank you. Is there anyone else? Okay. I will close public comment. Peter, will you clarify that basically we're switching this back?
We're Right. Yeah. So in the month of April, we have three city council meetings. The last the last calendar change approved by the council substitutes or makes one of the meetings, I should say, a workshop on water issues on level one water emergency policy. This item just substitutes or swaps those dates. So initially, we had the twenty eighth as the city council meeting for the level one water emergency workshop. This will now make the workshop on the twenty first, and the twenty eighth will be a regular city council meeting.
So we're just flip flopping them.
Right.
Okay. Thank you. We have a motion and a second. Please submit your vote. Okay. The motion carries. Item number 17 is discussion possible action to direct city manager to provide an update on the recent communication regarding the city's revised credit rating outlook to negative for general, obligation bonds from Fitch ratings as well as potential ratings from Moody's and S and P rating agencies. Mister Snow?
Yes. Okay. Great, mayor. I'll present this item and our financial adviser, Victor, from Specialized Public finances here somewhere, as well as our finance director. So we have been keeping counsel apprised of our ratings. This time of year, the three rating agencies, Fitch, Standard and Poor's, and Moody's, this time of year, they generally reassess us as we get ready to sell bonds in the early summer or late summertime. So there's nothing new in the assessment. This is the routine of the calendar. Each agency uses its own set of metrics to rate us, and the rating the rating agencies' rating of of us is very similar to our own credit scores. Right?
It's the rating agency gives us essentially a credit score so that when we do borrow money, a higher credit score generally means lower interest rates. This month, the city has met with all three rating agencies. Generally, they'll give us questions ahead of time. We'll respond to the questions in writing, and then we'll have a one to one and a half hour meeting or so and sometimes a follow-up meeting with them to get them questions that they still might have answered. Let me go over the three rating agencies' recent actions and pending actions, and I'll begin with Fitch ratings.
On April 8, Fitch affirmed our AA rating. This is the highest grade rating. They also revised our outlook from stable to negative for our GEO debt. Our GEO debt, this is just a general obligation bond debt. They kept our rating the same, which is a high grade rating, but they moved our outlook from stable to negative because of our water situation.
So there was some words of a downgrade of a rating, and an that's accurate portrayal. Fitch did not downgrade us. They just changed our outlook from stable to negative. There was no change in our utility debt from Fitch ratings, so they kept our rating the same at AA- with a negative outlook. That's what the outlook was before.
So just a change, a slight change in our GO rating, but no change utility rating. We have two two types of debt, general obligation bonds, and then our utility bonds for water, wastewater, and gas projects, and storm water from time to time. Moody's is the second one I'll go over with you. So on April 6, we met with Moody's to discuss the city's water supply projects and timelines for them coming online. The city team also provided detailed responses to questions that Moody's had on the economy here and our finances.
On 04/13/2016, which is this week, Moody's notified the city that they'll be meeting with their committee, as they call it. So the rating analyst is who we deal with, and then they present to a bigger committee who ultimately decides the rating. So for Moody's, their rating committee is expected to meet either today or tomorrow, and then we expect to hear, and we'll inform the council and the community what their what their outlook is for the city for geo debt and utility debt. K? So that's for Moody's.
Excuse me. What is it currently?
Yeah. So currently, mood if you if you recall last year, in December 2025, Moody's downgraded the city from a double a one to an a one. That was for our geo that was for our our utility debt and then and then an a three to an a excuse me. That was for the geo debt. And then the utility debt went from a double a three to an a one downgrade there as well.
So we're downgrading all three ways through Moody's?
Just two. Two. Yeah. Just two. Just for the geo debt and the utility debt back in December 2025, Moody's did downgrade us. Okay. And that's that's news that we that we know about. We told the community. We told the council. However, this week, Moody's will rule again, or I don't know if rule is the right word, but they'll give us their opinion again on our creditworthiness.
And they are they have asked a lot of questions about our water portfolio, and it wouldn't surprise us if downgraded us again. The three firms are the toughest. We currently don't use Moody's when we're when we're selling debt. They they're they're giving a rating for prior debt that they worked with us on several years ago. Okay.
And then the third the third rating agency, Standard and Poor's, we met with them also on April 9, and we provided responses to their questions on utility and GEO supported debt. It'll be over the next two weeks or so. We expect that they similarly will meet with their committees and then provide the city with an update on our credit rating. And so currently, for our GO bond, we have a high grade rating with S and P, a AA. So it's the highest grade, a double a.
And our outlook for our GO bonds from October rating was stable. And then for the utility debt, we had a high rate high grade rating with them as well, a double a minus. And back in October 2025, on the utility debt, they did revise our outlook from stable to negative.
So, Peter, this is as I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, but extremely concerning.
Are we concerned? Would you agree?
It's extremely concerning.
Yeah.
In other words, the the the the effect, like none of this happens is in in in a vacuum. Right? The effect is the uncertainty in or or its concern about uncertainty versus certainty.
Yeah.
And and that has a a huge effect on our rate payers or can, obviously, in borrowing more money. So I I'm I I think the public needs to know, which is why I put this item on the agenda, because this just happened this week. Right? No. Last week.
It happened last week.
Last week. Yeah. We've got things that happened that led to this this outlook change, and there are risks in that. But more importantly, what are we going to do to fix this? How do we fix this? Because, you know, all of this has been downgraded. So we're on a we're not on a good path. And and and this council and the public needs to know what that means. Yeah. Bunch of letters, you know, are letters. But when you say we're downgraded to negative, what happens after that? How do we fix that? And what are doing?
Downgraded. So the out so, again, Fitch Fitch kept our rating the same, but change changed the outlook. So the outlook doesn't
The outlook.
The outlook doesn't have and Victor can can correct me if I'm wrong, but the outlook doesn't have a necessarily doesn't have an an immediate impact.
I'm sorry to interrupt you. Where is Victor?
Is he here? He what? Him. Okay. We're going to get him. Yeah. So the the the the outlook doesn't translate into higher interest rates because it's not your credit score. It's just for the investors saying, hey. The city of Corpus Christi has a high the highest rating the highest category rating, but our outlook for the near term future has changed from either stable or some measure to to a negative.
Yeah. Victor, could you come up? Would you mind?
Yeah. Victor, the question is Yeah. Does does a change in our outlook if you have the same rating have a material impact on our debt interest rates?
And before you answer that, councilman Roy, go ahead.
So I wanna interject on on this subject. Yeah. First of all, as as far as the rating goes, part of that is, you know, in the last year, if you take a look in the last year, right, from the last time they rated us until now. Right. And I'm sure that you've made it aware because I know you've met with them in terms of all the progress that we have made. I mean, you look at it, we were sitting there at 42 MGD with the Mary Rhodes and we went up to 70. And then you look at all the other alternative things that we put in place and the extra all the things that we're working on. So they're they're fully aware of that. Right?
They're they're not only they're fully aware, but they're they're complementary of the work we're doing.
Yeah. Because I also think about when you take a look around, unfortunately, in Texas as a whole, we're not and and Victor, you can also lay credence to this. We're not the only ones that this has has happened to. I understand it's pretty much across the board in cities that are in similar water situations like ourselves that that they're getting down if you wanna use it downgraded or it's affecting their rating overall. Could could you speak to that?
Sure. Honorable mayor, members of council, mister Zanoni, thank you for having me here. For the record, my name is Victor Quiroga with specialized public finance. We have the honor representing the city as their financial advisors. I know there's a number of questions here, so should I go backwards, mister Howard?
Yeah. So so the city is is in a unique position in that you're trying to find additional water supply to add to your portfolio to provide to your customers. But there are other cities that are also being affected by this drought, and there's concern by rating agencies and how Texas is gonna handle these concerns to find additional water. The city is not the only one that's ever been either downgraded or had a negative outlook. Things like that happen, but they could also rebound based on positive developments that continue to occur.
With Fitch, I just want to point out it's not an indictment on the financial practices and management of the city. All your financials are doing really well. The key thing with Fitch and why they placed the outlook on negative, they didn't actually downgrade you just yet, but there's on the geo side that has nothing to do with water traditionally. But here now in this drought situation, where the situation that we're in, water is now bleeding over and impacting your other credits. Fitch, basically their main concern is just additional water supply.
They didn't downgrade you all, but they said that we could upgrade you or improve that revision from negative to stable is if you are able to find a water solution within the next twelve to twenty four months. They've been a little bit more understanding, them and S and P and us. We presented to them a plan. Right now, we're in the process of executing it. And it's just a matter of them giving us a little bit more time, but they did cite and put us on negative. They didn't downgrade us just yet based off of how that execution plays out for the city.
And then my other question is, historically, when you compare our rating let's let's go back 2017, 2018. That's when we had our first increase in our our credit Right?
Yeah. You've had multiple increases by multiple rating agencies over the years. It wasn't until 2024 where Moody's placed you all on negative, primarily because the council at the time took action to reduce certain revenue sources that the city had available to it and reduced that. And so that's where they saw y'all were were taking a little bit too much from your fund balances. Right. And they got a little concerned knowing that we have capital needs. But, I'm just, I'm just the messenger here from this Right. End of report. I'm not that's not my opinion.
No. No. And I understand that, and I remember that because as a council, we struggled. I I say we struggled, but there's a lot of debate over that in terms of are we holding too much reserve, and it went back and forth with this council and ultimately our reserves. And that resulted in our first ding in terms of our credit. Right?
Yes. The third day
about it.
I just wanted historically for people to understand that because it's such such you know, when you're talking about credit, there's just so many factors in that. And I I I you know. And hopefully, we'll get through this and and we'll continue to climb. Thank you.
Yes, sir.
You're
welcome. Victor, how how do we fix this? So so needless well, maybe there is need to say it. We we will have higher we're we're not on a good path. We we can say, well, no, they didn't downgrade us, but we're on the path towards being downgraded. Right? Because now we
I are wouldn't say that, Victor. Yeah. Not necessarily because then if we if we if we bring on the water
supplies to that, though. I'm getting to that.
Like, you need to answer the question, though, mayor. If we bring on water supplies or if we if our reservoirs fill up Or if we take
off water supplies. Or if water supplies never come on.
Yeah. Right.
Or if we cancel projects. That affect all of that affects in some way. It's it's multiple pieces of the pie. And that's my concern because Yeah. The the path we are on today today and we'll know here I don't know how quickly they let you know. Which one did you say? Moody's? I mean, Moody's that is having a meeting today or tomorrow?
The the meet the right. The committee meetings this week.
So so we'll see what what they do. But I guess my point is is the path that we're on is extremely concerning to me. And the reason is is because investors will demand higher interest rates if we do not have a good standing. Correct? I mean, that's generally putting it.
In general.
But you don't have to
go into
the weeds. Yes. So so that's my concern.
I'm good at that going into the weeds. Well,
I didn't mean that. I that was not offensive. But So how do we fix this? How do we turn this around?
The elephant in the room with the rating agencies, and they cited this since last fall, just the city securing an additional supply. They're not giving you opinion as to surface water, groundwater, decile, whatever it is. They're not giving you opinion on that. They're not experts in that. I'm not an expert in that. What they're just saying is that they recognize that the city, and you recognize that you need to get additional water into your portfolio from whatever means that is to provide to your customers. So that's really the key here, is just execution on that water plan. Whatever it is, whatever water source it is, that's gonna be the key. They don't really get into the details of, you know, this project versus that project. They just are looking at, do you have water to sell to your customers?
Councilman Hernandez.
Okay. Peter, you had mentioned that or maybe you had mentioned it, that they're looking to see make sure we get water within the next twelve to eighteen months. Who said that? Was that
That was what Victor said. Yeah. But they
are That's the general statement that Fitch has, but really nobody wants you to get into that LE one or whatever. I know.
I know.
So what we did was we rejected the Inner Harbor desal through Key Wit that wasn't going to provide water until three, four years afterwards, 2028, 2029 time frame. And we replaced it with three projects, Evangeline water, Groundwater, the Western Wells in Nueces County, which are and then wastewater reuse, all are scheduled to have water within the twelve to eighteen months, sometimes out to twenty four months time frame. Are they giving us credit for those projects to come online sooner than the other project?
As I said earlier, they're not really giving you an opinion as to which project you should go by.
I didn't
say that.
It's timing. The
key is just from being a messenger from this independent reporting agency and assisting the staff with presenting this information to these independent reporting agencies. All those plans have been communicated to all the rating agencies. They're factoring everything in. Everything that you just laid out has been communicated to the rating agencies, and the actions they take is their actions. Would would would be All that has been communicated to them.
Would we be in a worse situation if we had not done the those projects that would have delivered water in the twelve to eighteen month period?
That that you know, I I'm trying not to this is not my opinion because I'm not a rating analyst or anything, but I think, you know, I think the fact that
we have a
plan is beneficial. The the plan the the fact that we have a plan is beneficial is what I'll say. But, you know, whether it's what plan it is and what's gonna be more fruitful and more productive and and more efficient for your constituents, I'd that you know, that that's for you all to decide.
Yeah. Your husband
yeah. Who who went up and talked to them specifically?
We they came here. So we They came here? Yeah.
So you spoke to them.
I spoke to them. Michael Rodriguez, Sergio, Victor.
The water team. Commercial.
Yeah. And they talked about all our our short term projects. Correct. Yeah.
To get water within the short time.
Yeah. The answer to the question is we'll get credit if we can bring them on as planned. If Evangeline starts flowing with 4,000,000 gallons in November, like we've told them, then they're gonna give us credit. The issue is they're saying just it's it's it's not clear that they'll come on. There's there's some risk in them coming on as we are planning. And so but the answer to the question is if they come on as we say they're going to, we're gonna get credit for it. Yes.
So just from from the perspective of us up here, it's imperative that we do those projects that get us water in the shortest amount of time to avoid try to avoid curtailment.
That's correct. And they recognize that, councilman. And they applaud us for that.
Thank you.
They do. They've said it several times. Mhmm.
Councilwoman Campos. Thank you, mayor.
Okay. I was just curious about the Inner Harbor plant. You know, there was a lot of speculation that the reason that that our ratings went down was because we didn't move forward on the Inner Harbor. Is that
is that that was some of those comments. Yeah. That was Moody's a year ago.
That was
It wasn't the exclusive reason why, but they just said it introduced a little more water uncertainty.
Even though they knew that the water was not going to be produced till another
And we told them that Victor can speak to it because he has more experience in this than me. But Moody's is the toughest rating agency.
Yes. Would say so. And two, also, I don't want to minimize the impact of the drought. When we were talking to Moody's back in October 2024, the reservoir levels, which they keep an eye on, were much higher than they are now, and they've drastically gone down because of the drought. So these rating agencies, the thing about them is that they did, in my opinion, they don't do a good job about projecting and looking into the future.
They could just estimate or guess as to what's going to happen. They're very much backward looking. This summer, when we go and issue bonds for your needs on the utility system side and the NGO side, our objective and to try to get you the best interest rate possible is to continue messaging and giving these bond investors this message. Of course, a higher credit rating, the better. But also, you have to recognize some of these bond investors are very sophisticated that they might not just rely solely on Fitch or S and P to base their investment decision on. They have their own credit analysts working on the credit. But anyhow, don't know if that was just a long way to answer what Peter
Well, okay. So, hypothetically, so what if we do not go with Inner Harbor and we decide to go with, let's say, Barney Davis? You know, that would be, you know, a different plan, a different, you know, whole financial plan. So, how would that be or or or Harbor Island or or one of those. How would that fit in into the financial schemes of things? I mean, would that still be would we I guess my question would be, would we still be able to get good loan ratings? I mean, good ratings on our loans?
Yes. So so as mister Everett indicated, the rating agencies look at you, they look at the full spectrum, everything going on, how much are you charging, how much are you efficiently operating your system, all that, who your customers are, who's buying from you. From a rating agency perspective, is that it's good to diversify your water portfolio. Historically, we've only been dependent on surface water. But if you diversify, whatever that is, I'm not here to opine on that, I think the more water sources you have, the less risk you're gonna have in the future about being in a low water supply situation.
The only question is, you know, it's gonna take capital and it's gonna take potential rate increases to accomplish all that. But in the rating agency's eyes, the more diversification you have in your water portfolio, the better off you're going be.
But on the other hand, too, we get ding for going into our reserves. Right? If we dip too much into our reserves to get what we need in order to supply the water, you know, so
It's how do we definitely a balancing act, Ms. Campos. You know, they want to make sure, these rating agencies, the bond investors, that they know we have a large capital improvement plan to move forward, depending on whatever route you go into. But when you're going into an extensive capital improvement financing program like that, they want to make sure that you have a very healthy reserve fund. Historically, just like for the general fund, instance, historically, the city had maintained close to 30% of annual expenditures as your reserve fund.
Right now, it's closer to 27%, which is still healthy, but it's been a downward trend primarily because we did get into reserves. It's a balancing act. Want you to have that reserve so that if something happens, a weather event, what have you, you have that reserve there as a rainy day fund. So it's definitely a balancing act. You know, you can't trim it down all the way to the bottom and still, you know, try to issue debt and Right.
But I I think we were still within a healthy range like
Know, no. You are. Absolutely. Yes.
So, what more or less is not a very healthy range?
Well, it depends on the rating analyst. So, like the Fitch Rating Agency, they have their own minimum threshold of 10%, which I would not recommend. Ours is higher than that. So, so long as you keep it higher, but also too, long as the this councilor would future councils are committed to maintaining enough revenue to continue supporting the system and paying your debt.
Mhmm.
Yeah.
Okay. Thank you. Councilman Scott.
God dang it. I thought it was second of oh, it's a couple of quick things. So when you met with them, Peter, you did articulate that the Eastern, Western, and the Ed Rochelle Wells were temporary solutions or short term.
Right. Midterm. Yeah. We went over the Nick was there with us in between Nick and I. K. We went over the entire water portfolio, the billion dollars worth of 76,000,000 gallons of new water sources. But but And we went over the options that the council was considering.
But we didn't articulate that we intended to pump those wells in perpetuity. We told them that the 36 MGD rate. What's that? At the 36,000,000 gallon a day rate that we discussed here.
We said when other just like we've told the community, when other resources rebound, we'll use groundwater less or not at all. Interesting.
Yeah. My understanding that we kinda had a commitment to our friends out in the western part of the county that we were gonna run the wells for the next couple of years to get us and then find other resources.
If it takes that long for the Western reservoirs to fill up. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. There's no time.
The western reservoirs don't back to not gonna be happy to hear that. I thought it was 36. And then if we did desal it, we'd bring it back to 20. So we try to operate at the the Western the well fields at 30 20 MGD desalinating and putting it through the Owen Stevens. It's I must have missed that. I I did not know that that we intended to run the wells as long as we needed.
Just That's the only water source that's helping us right now, councilman. So it depends on our eastern sources. Even if a desal plant came on by 2029, if Lake Texana is, say, below 30% and the Lower Colorado is not running Yep. Then we're gonna use we need to use the groundwater. So the system we're setting up, it gives us flexibility to turn a source or sources on and off.
Yeah. I get it. And I you know, I've been a proponent for, you know, drill baby drill in Western Oasis County as some of my friends in the back have pointed out. But it was my sense that those were short to midterm solutions that we needed to find other resources so that we weren't relying on those in the long term, which leads me to the question about
That's correct what you just said. Okay. That's yeah.
That's Well, you're you're saying that until the river until the lakes fill up, and I was thinking it was not till the lakes fill up. It was till we brought a different source on that we could replace the well fields with. Like like I think it's both. Desalination.
Yeah. I think it's both, councilman. I think if a desal plant is built in time or plants and the West Yeah.
That's why I thought three years to build a desal, three years to pump the wells. Desal comes on. You can throttle back the wells at the same time you're desal in a portion of the well field so we can
That's correct.
We can we can move forward with 20 MGD a day, which I think is basically half of what we're doing now. That that was my concept, which may Kurt certainly may not be right. Hey. That reminds me. So our conversations with Orange Grove, we do have a hydrologist that's helping us.
We have those too. So the city has ours, and they have theirs. And we provided information to Orange Grove that they can use in their modeling.
Do we are we gonna get some response from ours
About all that? Is that a thirty day answer, forty five day answer?
Right? I don't,
yeah, I don't have the answer, councilman. Yeah. I'm looking Nick's returning tomorrow, but it it should be around that time frame.
Okay. I'd be interested in that because I think that that that's an indication of the impact of the Wells. And and I'm I'm a guy I'm a guy that said, hey. We can get 36 MGD. Let's make it happen. Yeah. But that that that piques my interest. So and then yeah. So you you articulate there's risk with the well field. There's risk with the evangelion. If we don't I mean, if we get they don't have standing later this month, then we move forward. Right? But you did articulate to Fitch that there are risks involved outside of our control right now.
That's correct. With every project, we have risk.
Cool, man. That that that's it. Thank you, sir.
Thank you, sir.
Councilwoman Vaughn. I have one question. So are we within what our budget policy policies and utility policy say? Is it what is it? 20%? What is it?
So the reserve fund you're talking about? Yes. There's a couple of factors. Yes. We we are that's one of the credits that they do give us is that we're very we have a strong reserve on the utility system side and the general fund side still.
What's the percentage that we're supposed to have? Is there a percentage?
You know, it it does it's dictated by policy, but, typically, it's 20%. But the more cash you have, particularly on the utility side, the the better. Right now, we're in excess of 20%.
Okay. Thank you.
Yeah. Councilwoman Vaughn, the city council approved financial policies has it at 25% for the general fund. Yes. I'm sorry.
What? Utility's still
The utility's sorry. The utility's at 25%. The general fund is what? 20. 20?
But it's like, it's it's a little higher than 20 today in the general fund.
But that's what we dictate. Right. That's what I was asking.
Yeah.
Okay.
Thanks. Sorry I got those confused. But Yeah. You did. But we're we're
You didn't know the answer. I'm disappointed.
I have a lot of notes here too. Thanks. Punish myself later.
I'm gonna go ahead and open public comment. Would anyone like to make comment on item number 17? Yes, sir.
So just for date purposes, Rachel Caballero d one. The grading was downgraded in 2024. The Inner Harbor KeyWit contract was voted down in 2025. And if you take a look at all of the debt that is owed by the city, including the 140 plus million dollars of certificates of obligation that have been taken out over the course of the last seven years without voter approval, and then you consider the lack of population growth in the area within that same time frame, and then you consider the multiple different projects and borrowing money for the experimental Inner Harbor plant before the full funding was available, Now you have the $1,100,000,000 in other diverse water projects. So basically, this is just reiterating that we can't afford to borrow more money for the Inner Harbor experimental plant because it's only going to put us into more debt.
And there is it isn't even fully funded as of yet. So as we play word jumbo mumbo and talking in circles, we've overspent money when we shouldn't have and now we're in this position.
Any mister Weiss?
Joseph wise district one. United States Marine Corps. I don't know if this fits into this. This is not my world any way, shape, or form. But this discussion on water amongst the leaders of our community date back to 1979. 1979. And we have not been able to get a group of leaders to come to a decision since 1979. I learned very early in the Marine Corps, you can live for months without food. You cannot live for days without water. A decision needs to be made, and the bond rating agencies have had enough.
Since 1979, we haven't been able to get it together. And my understanding, I could be wrong, I believe triple a is a top bond rating, not double a. I could be incorrect. It's still a very powerful rating, but triple a is your top. So it's a negative slope. Agree completely. But as a citizen, we're tired of this young woman said the minutiae. We need some decisions, folks. We need some decisions. Thank you.
Thank you, sir. Anyone else?
Julian Hernandez district three. When I first started coming here, the only thing that was on the agenda was desal. And understanding construction, for those that that actually do big construction, it never goes as planned. And it's been said here before, it's always a day late and a dollar short. I've been on projects where they went from $10,000,000 to $40,000,000.
Like, because we were they wanted it now. And I bring this up because had it not been so say that DSL would have passed, we would we would actually be in a worse position now because it wouldn't be online till another four years. And we wouldn't be looking for other water sources. And because it was voted down is the only reason, and this is just me just started coming, the only reason we have other water sources. And every time I I I hear, know, Peter Zunami, first I wanna thank you for clarifying what I misunderstood earlier about the flip flop and the schedule and stuff.
But the other thing is is when he mentioned that we were a negative but that wasn't affecting our financial situation. We hear the the strong push like, hey, you gotta buy this car when you walk into the into the car lot. It's like, oh, well, explain how we get out of it. And I know where it's leading because you wanna sell something. But we got out of it because it was voted down before and that's why we have water now.
Right? Am I wrong? Because there was nothing else being looked at when I first started coming here. But had it gone, we would have been 1,500,000,000.0 in the hole, not including what we would have to be doing now. And so those that voted it down then should be congratulated because now we have other sources of water without the 1,500,000,000.0. And try to sell your car, you know, everybody hates those car salesmen. You can't even walk on the lot to look at car. And that's what I feel like every time there there's like something small, whatever it is, negative or whatever it was. Wait. Tell us how to get out of it.
But we know what you're after. You're trying to sell us that car to get in there and maybe the car doesn't fit our budget. Maybe the car isn't right for our family. You know, all the other factors. So collectively take a look at it and and and make sure the car that we're getting it or buying into is right for the family. Thank you.
Thank you. Anyone else? Okay. I'm closing public comment. Let's see here. So we are going to there's no action here. But I will say and Victor, correct me if I'm wrong. Certainty is what credit ratings are looking for. Yes. And it is multiple things. It's not moving forward water projects. It's bringing them on. It's keeping to our word in terms of stability. It's a whole lot of things, it sounds like, that make up a credit rating and what can happen, you know, if it one one way or the other.
That that that's correct. And just a final note is that when we do go into the market this summer for your bonds, it's really gonna be what's gonna dictate the interest rate is really gonna be market conditions in addition to, you know, what the rating agencies sell and then the the the communication that we have with the bond investors as well. So it's not end all
be all.
K. Thank you, Victor. We're gonna move on to item 18, and this is discussion possible action to direct city manager to provide an update addressing concerns raised in recent media coverage regarding the Nueces River Authority, including allegations of inaccurate reporting and governance issues, and to present a comprehensive accounting of all city funds dispersed to the NRA as required by Texas law and to outline any implications for the city of Corpus Christi's water supply strategy and contractual relationships.
You requested that we present this. As background, the city, with my recommendation, reserved 50,000,000 gallons of water from a future desalination facility at Harbor Island that would be managed by the Nueces River Authority. And that was approved in October 2025. A $2,700,000 reservation fee was provided to Harbor Island. There was a contract that went along with that.
And Miles and I have reviewed the contract. We reviewed it when we presented it, and we reviewed it again recently. Recently, a former employee of Nueces River Authority waged some allegations that the Nueces River Authority is going to look into. Today, they had a special meeting, and they hired a firm to look into these allegations. The board chair, Eric Burnett, and and the and the board approved a contract with the firm to assess the, the allegations from the employee.
So several questions were asked from me about what exposure do we have the city, given that we allocated $2,700,000. And this answer here comes from Miles and myself, which exposure is more to if NRA as an agency has a reputation damage because of these allegations, it may make it less likely that they can produce the plant and then less likely that we can buy water from them. We don't have any exposure in terms of the contract dollars that were paid. NRA is in compliance with the contract terms for the 2,700,000.0, and the allegations don't provide any risk to the 2.7 with the exception of potential reputation damage should the accusations be true or substantiated. We won't know that.
We don't investigate other people's other entities' issues, personnel issues. They're gonna hire a firm that will do that, and then they'll report back to us, and we can report back to counsel. Now do we rely on one of the accusations is that the executive director made some overstatements in terms of how much was reserved in reservation fees. And the question that was posed to me is, does that have any impact did that have any impact on our recommendation to the city council or the city council's approval of the reservation fee? And the answer is no.
The staff presentation on all accounts, the in person presentation, the city council briefing memo, the PowerPoint presentation had no reference to how much reservation the Nueces River Authority had obtained from other sources in Texas. And so so we believe that there was no that the statements that were made in terms of how much was reserved or not reserved didn't have any bearing on at least myself and and other staff that made presentations to the council. Another question that was asked is what's the current status of any agreements, funding, or coordination efforts tied to the NRA? Beyond some small ones that we have and daily operations on water monitoring at the Choke Canyon. We do not have any other agreements except for the the the reservation fee.
And then the last question is especially a legal question, which is what safeguards do we have to protect the city's interests? Should these allegations be substantiated? And Miles says that state agencies are are protected have protection by sovereign immunity and most types of lawsuits and claims. So it'd be tough to try to file a claim, I guess, if some of these accusations were true. However, the representation of what John Byram said in terms of reservation fees weren't used as part of our analysis when we presented to city council.
So, mayor, that's about all I have to present. Miles is here, and we'll get more information when the Nueces River Authority does their investigation, and they hired their investigator today in a special meeting.
Alright. Councilman Scott.
So I find the accusations troubling. Hopefully, there's nothing there. Right?
Because Right.
You're our partner. Correct. I'm a little I'm I'm a little surprised you don't find them troubling because they have $2,700,000 of these folks' money. And I would think that we're really we had to really be concerned at the accusations and and actually, frankly, help where we can to to seek resolution and some light on that. Do you know who they hired? And and what's the timeline on the investigation?
Is that something? So that that was it's a a law firm out of San Antonio. I don't I don't have that name, and I I I wasn't at the board meeting. And
Yeah. I know you're here. Right?
Yeah. Right. It was today earlier. So I I don't know how long it will take, but in speaking several times last week with the board chair, they wanna move pretty quickly to get some swift reconciliation of accusations. Could you
provide that to us?
The Yeah.
Who they hired and what's the timeline and what's the process? I think we'd wanna be I I wanna share that with people.
Okay. We can get you that.
I I am aware that some of their presentations that list the reservation fees, and one of which, for instance, is East Central, and they list populations served 350,350 people. But in East Central Supply Corporation's own audited financial return, they say we serve 36,000 people. Right? So in the presentation, it says 350,000 people. In their own audited returns, it says 36,000 people.
And so the just you start to kinda wonder about that. I don't actually know that that makes a difference in the in the financials. But when you're telling people you serve 350,000 people and and then the entity says, no. We only serve 36,000 people. That that's concerning to me. And and it may be a semantics. You know, I I thought, you know, sometimes we say we serve, you know, 500,000 people when maybe we serve 450. I don't know. I just point is I point out one, there's another Green Valley. They list 345,000 population served, and I I left that document at at the office.
But when I looked at their financials, they say they represent 36,000 people. So there's two instances where it's 10% of the what they show on their their presentations. And I would hope that maybe we can help them, you know, be more accurate in their presentations to the public. So I'm troubled by it. And if you could and I'm conveying that to the public. I'm I'm troubled by the fact they have $2,700,000. I'd sure like to know what the accounting is of it so far. You know? Where's the money spent? Who we who'd they hire?
What's the timeline on that project? What's the breakdown? Are they still building Harbor Island or a third party building Harbor Island, they're moving to just the transmission part of that process, which wouldn't be a bad model. Just different than what I thought we got into.
Yeah, we can have some council members asked me to get an update, have John Byram present to council an update. That was prior to this event, so we can do that. I have gone to their last couple of board meetings, and the council Excuse me, the board has approved contracts for the conveyance line design contracts, two different firms. And the board chair texted me today in his update that they are close to selecting the design build operator for the Harbor Island plant itself. That'll be done in the next couple of weeks.
The design build operator is going to pay on their own nickel to design and build and, I guess, operate.
Right. They'll bring that financing to the table.
So our $2,700,000 reservation contribution went to the engineering, the selection process?
Well, I have to ask them exactly where they where they align that to, but what I do know, they have allocated a lot of money on design for the conveyance system. They've hired consultants to help manage the process. So I don't know if they know exactly how our 2.7 has been spent to date. But we can ask them, they can present that to us.
It's okay. Just a a general, hey. We're doing these five things, and it's $10,000,000, and we spent three here, 3 here, and
Right.
4 there. I think it would be good to communicate Yeah. With all the questions swirling around that entity. Right. I'm hopeful that it it'll all be cleared up, and we can move on down the road. But I do think that some some serious questions have been asked that we hope get answered.
Yeah. We're gonna get answers.
So a presentation would be great.
Thank you, sir. Yeah. I'll ask John Byron. Thanks.
Councilman Bonita.
Thank you, mayor. You know, I I thought that that employee was still there.
Pruski? Yeah. He resigned councilman.
Okay. Yeah. Know, obviously, I I I didn't support this project. And, you know, I voiced my concerns with you and obviously in public comment. I'm little bit more optimistic now that this comes out because I think we might be able get our money back, even though it may be a long shot. I just just I just would ask that. I've just never felt that the math worked. I mean, we get I mean, if we're doing 50,000,000 gallons, you know, what are they gonna do with 5,400,000 gallons? I mean, 5.4 more $5,400,000 on a 100,000,000 gallons. It doesn't really get much.
And and they don't have any I I don't know that the cost unless the cost to convey is born on each entity. And Kyle Texas, even though they gave 300,000 for reservation rights. Unless they're waiting for the legislature to be able to provide funding of which there's money set aside, but there's only what? A couple of billion dollars in there, 3,000,000,000 total. I mean, I just just the math doesn't work for me.
The federal government. All I
ask is that we just be very conscientious. I think this makes it more hypersensitive. I think the other thing that this does is we need to have this opportunity. So once again, as was in the in the agenda item before, is to provide certainty and confidence. And this is just adds all over to the novella that we're living.
And, know, and you know, mind you Peter, I've I've said that on many occasions, I sit on the campaign trail, I sang your praises that how many times our bond rating improved. And how it was talking to you and Victor that put us in a position or put me in an understanding of what how beneficial debt can be because it shows that we have a willing willingness to invest in our infrastructure. And I think right now, the my opinion, my as a layman, $2,700,000 is just a desperate attempt to try and show people that we're doing something. I I just I just would hope the Peter that that that I've always praised is very conscientious and would ensure that we're getting the best value there. And I'm just a little concerned because I I think I like I like John.
I like to talk to him about barbecue. You know? I like to talk to him about grandchildren. I like to talk to him about the trips that he takes with his wife. You know, but with somebody to do business with, I just would be more conscientious. So just if if if I could ask, number one, just like Mark said, get us back the details when when they're what the specifications of their of their investigation is, when we'll be able to find out who the firm is. And so that way we can go back and we can tell our constituents because a lot of them are asking questions.
Yeah. Thank you, sir. Yeah. We'll get you that councilman.
Council excuse me. Councilwoman Vaughan.
Well, first off, we need to let them iron out their differences, what's going on over there. We do not know what happened. Right. And for anyone to have a knee jerk reaction, get on Facebook and start criticizing another entity is wrong. That's not what leaders do. You call them and say, what's going on? What can I do? We did not do that. We criticized and said, give us our money back immediately. Jump to conclusions. You do not know what happened. And everybody makes errors. This city makes errors all the time. That's what happens. So I'm not real concerned about that.
We send stuff out that's wrong because we've been called on it up here. So every entity does that. I just think we need to leave them alone, let them figure it out, and let let him come back over here and explain to us what happened. And we need to know the facts, but we don't need high school politics in this and be ugly and mean to an entity that's very well respected. I mean, they're appointed by the governor. They're very well respected. So they helped build the Mary Rhodes pipeline just like the port did. We need to give them courtesy. Thank you.
K. Well,
I'm not gonna defend them. And, today, what I'm looking for is clear accounting of what was presented, what is now being alleged, what the city knows, and what our options are. We have to know. I'm not gonna sit around here and wait for them to get the green light that everything was fine when you have a COO who was whistleblowing. We need to we need to be looking into if this comes back in the worst case scenario, how do we get our money back?
Those are this is taxpayer money. It's $2,700,000, and we're we're taking this really lightly. And and, Peter, I cannot believe that you are not concerned with you you didn't raise one concern with this, and and that blows my mind because we don't know, as was just said. So we can go one way or the other. But this is a very serious allegation, and this is $2,700,000 of taxpayer dollars that we we have to know how we're going to address this should should it come to fruition.
Right. That's that's why I called the chair mayor of the Nueces River Authority once this happened, and they they have to look into it. I I can't investigate their internal operations.
I'm just So once
we get their report once we get their report, we'll be able to share that with the council.
Thank you. Mhmm. Councilwoman Paxton. Thank
you. Peter, did you send it in a memo or a text message shortly after the media release about there being a potential issue? It was asked what degree of liability are we in because of our commitment. You sent it in a text message.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I informed the council once this took place. Once the allegations were made.
Because I remember for one, I had the same question. Do we have How does this impact our relationship? Was my question.
Right. Yeah.
And so I have to say I don't think it's appropriate for us as an entity to publicly pronounce opinions in the form of judgment against another organization that we don't have jurisdiction in. I think it's risky. I think it puts us in a bad spot. There's not a determination of if there's fault, who there's fault with, or what the outcome's gonna be. I appreciate that very promptly you did address those concerns, which were, does the city have liability, and how does this change our relationship on this project?
The answer is, until there's anything material, it doesn't. And I, for one, feel like you answered that pretty quickly. So I appreciate having the answers to that because it's it's very important to us how we've invested our resources. This is something that I think is much bigger than what's gonna be I I don't know what's gonna be found, but I sure am not gonna sit here and preside over it because I don't know. However, this is a huge project.
It's garnered enormous support and attention, and I I don't think that something like this is is a reason for the city of Corpus Christi as a regional water supplier to say, I want out. I want out. I want out. That's not being secure. What we need to demonstrate is stability.
We just heard it in the last item over and over again. So I appreciate that your approach and the information that you have provided publicly and to the group here is that as of right now, this doesn't change our relationship with the project. As of right now, we don't have any reason to believe that the project is jeopardized because there's no ruling. We don't know. So I appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah. Councilman Hernandez.
Thank you, mayor. Considering how many controversies we have here at the city, I almost don't wanna point any fingers at anybody. The you know, and and I have to remind my fellow council member, councilman Barrera, that if we would have voted for that MOU, the NRA would have never been involved in this, so I blame you for it. You know, I I I went to the last two presentations. John Byram went to the Thursday morning breakfast to kind of present.
I think you were there briefly. And then he also went to the Flower Bluff Business Association that I also attended. And also Dan Suckley, who is a board member and a former council member, was there as well. And, you know, from what from what I understand of their plan, it's still the same to do a p three contract for the actual plant. And it is they're looking at doing the conveyance, and they would need help from the state. And I'm I'm, you know, I'm assuming that they're trying to get that part of that billion dollar annual funding that the state is going to take into place, I guess it starts in 2027 Right. To help cover the cost of that. And their intent is to ultimately get it all the way up to the I-thirty 5 corridor.
Right.
Now I don't think that's going to happen overnight. I think they intend that we are a big part of that because they have to sell some water close by so they can afford going beyond that. I don't know how much just because we reserve 50,000,000 gallons a day, I don't know if we're going to need all 50,000,000. I think we have to have customers in place, which goes back to do we when are we going to get contracts with our large water users so we can have some confidence that we will have those water sales. It's hard to buy water if you don't have contracts to sell water.
So I think there's some things that we have to do in order to make sure that we and honestly, I don't know if they can deliver water in 2029. Their contract with the port is until 2032. I think there's a lot of leeway in there. And honestly, I'm not counting on it for the water that we're looking for. You know, the emergency stuff that we're looking for is the groundwater projects, wastewater reuse project, maybe the CC Polymers thing, that works out. Those are the things that are gonna get us water here quickly. You know, I think the you know, there are some concerns with the NYSIS River Authority, but I think we have more pressing issues, in the short range, in the short term that we have to address than deal with that at this point in time. Thank you.
Okay. Councilman Valera.
Yeah. I just wanna add. I mean, the governor's con is the one that demanded the investigation. So, I mean, I'm I'm just asking you to be conscientious about it. So I'm not I don't wanna downplay it. I'm I'm not downplaying it. I'm just saying that once again, I never had faith in it. And I I I've even in in I think I think I'm not gonna I think we'll save our debate over the MOU on another day. But what is it? That's all I'm saying. I'm just expressing that we move with the same prudency that the governor of Texas is has
his concerns. That's why I called the the chair immediately, councilman. We did. But as council member says, we they don't report to the city, so I can't investigate it.
I understand. I understand. But I'm sure there's
Board chair.
I'm I'm sure there's a I I would hope I I I believe in you. And I think you'll find a vehicle to make sure that the public confident in the work that you're doing.
They have an independent firm they hired today, we'll get you the name. But they're gonna end up from San Antonio. They're gonna independently review the situation and advise everybody.
Yeah. But the the a lot of the information they're a public agency just like us. Right. And so that information should be available to the public. And then if they're not a willing partner to be able to provide that for us upon request.
They're gonna provide it to us.
Yeah. Of course. Yeah. I'm not I I I I have no doubt that they would. Right. Yeah. They'd be completely transparent.
Yeah. We they are they have been with me.
Yeah. So I have I have no doubt that they and in fact, they should be. Yeah. So I'm I'm just I'm just expressing that. But I guess the implication that we're judging people, I just wanna say that I've been very transparent from the beginning. And it's the governor that's requested this. So I'm sure that it should be readily available. So that way we're we're providing the value that we should.
Agreed. Thank you, sir. Yes, sir.
Councilwoman Campos. Thank you, mayor.
I just wanna just statement a fact that I personally also did not vote for this project, but I had my own reasons why. But, I also want to say that being the Nueces River Authority and it being a municipality or a public entity, I do have faith that they will that that the that it it'll come to fruition, that some that something will come something good will come out of this. I I don't know about the the governor, you know, stepping again over another another entity just like he's trying to do with us. I mean, we have home room home room home rule. And so, you know, we have our rights just like they do.
Although I do know that the appointees are done by the the governor himself. So, anyway, I just do agree that we do need to give them at least a little bit more time. So
Yeah. Now now
Councilman councilman Warren.
Real quick. I think Harbor Island is is gonna happen one day soon. I really believe that. I'm glad that we're involved with it. I think John was being a salesperson. I think anybody want everybody wants to sell us water. I mean, that's what he's doing. He's trying to sell us water, and he sold us water. And I think $2,800,000 that we gave them is not much because we just spent almost $4,000,000, over 4,000,000 for a 5,000 square foot building. I mean, so if you're concerned about the taxpayers' money, you know, we we should be concerned about getting a crane service for $600,000 for the American Bank Center.
We should be concerned the the the 5,000 square foot building for for over $4,000,000. You know? So I just think it's just this is political. I think allegations. We get allegations all the time. All the time. You know? And and so it it is what it is. And I'm behind him. I'm behind the project, and I think it's gonna happen. It's going to happen. The port's involved. You know, the port wants it. The port gave us a chance at one time, this city, to partner up, and we blew that. So that's my comments. Thank
you. Would anyone like to make public comment on item number 18?
Rachel Caballero, d one. Just so the general public knows that when it says city secretary's office, it's usually because the mayor has requested for this to be put on the agenda.
Yes. It was made.
So I think we all know within the I'm I'm speaking, so try not to interrupt.
Go ahead.
I think we all know that other government municipalities have sovereign immunity. Like this isn't if you're if you're in politics, you know that other government agencies have sovereign immunity. You know, I feel like this is a distraction for what is upcoming. Also, Also, since we I'm very, very happy to hear the concern for the 2,700,000.0 deposit that we made. I'm so happy to hear that because at the end of the day, it is taxpayer money that we need to be concerned about.
So I would like to see the same concern and the same effort in the $50,000,000 that has been used for the experimental Inner Harbor project that has accomplished nothing, that nothing has been done on. So we're gonna care about 2,700,000.0. Let's care about the 50,000,000 that has been what did we say again? Oh, man. What was that word? Laundered or not maybe not laundered. That was squandered. That's the word. Squandered. So yeah.
If you I I appreciate the current concern for the 2,700,000.0 even you though we all know that the NRA cannot be held liable. And two, that we have the same genuine concern for the 50,000,000 that has just gone m I a from the Inner Harbor project. Thank you.
Next.
Julian Hernandez, d three. City manager, I applaud you. You go through a lot. You know, I I sit here and I realize it now that, you know, there's some direction from from the minority, and then there's a general direction of of well, the general consensus of the overall council here. And I don't know the whole pecking order, but who you take your your marching orders from.
And I I think, you know, as an entity, I I I don't think we should be, you know, diving into other people's stuff. And those that are requesting that are just, you know, it's it's third grade kind of things. But at the end of the day, I think you work for them. And I applaud you for for having to, I guess, dodge that back and forth. So but, yeah, I I think to do what's right is is do what you've already done and and leave it at that and let it come to fruition what's gonna happen. You know? Thank you.
Thank you, sir. Is there anyone else? I'm gonna close public comment on that. Councilman Kentu?
Real quick. Peter, You made a comment earlier that we spent close to a billion dollars for how many MGDs?
Yeah. For 76,000,000 gallons a day, councilman.
So our city managers and this council approved almost a billion dollars for 72 Seventy seventy six. 76 MGVs. Per day. Thank you, Peter. I think that's that's a lot of water for for a billion dollars. And you get hit here a lot. And and I appreciate that you have thick skin, and you're doing what's best for this city, and and you're doing a good job. I mean, that's a lot of water that you're you're getting online soon, and, I appreciate you. And I think the community appreciates you too.
Yeah. Thank you, councilman. Yes.
Item number 19 is discussion of possible action on allegations regarding information provided on building permit and tourist number three reimbursement applications for the residents in hotel related to representations among them related to a hotel rooftop bar, including a presentation from city staff outlying the nature of the allegations, relevant facts, photography of the rooftop bar, and any potential implications to ensure transparency related to any incentive payments by the downtown turge number three, and potential fees unpaid to the city.
Good evening. Mike Dice, interim assistant city manager. For the item, I don't have a presentation, but I do have just some facts of some of the items, some of the things listed within the agenda post. So the property in question is 309 Shoreline. It's a Residence Inn that was built.
The permit was done back in February '17. One of the allegations, even heard earlier today, was a difference in valuation. So the valuation at that time, according to the application, was 5,560,000.00. With that, there's a state filing, for TDLR, Texas Department of License and Registration, for accessibility review. It's required by the state any job over $50,000 filed so they can have that plan reviewed for accessibility.
They attached evaluation at that time of $12,000,000 to the state filing. Now, just for clarity's sake, that difference is now in 2020, an internal policy was put into place to make sure that those items are looked at and at least it's consistent across the valuation between both of them. The same item was taken to TURS three. There was an application for a $940,000 reimbursement to go over 10 for construction of six items. Those six items were heavier steel construction, landscaping, including trees, a trellis, pavers along the entryway, an entrance canopy, and then a rooftop amenity.
Although it didn't get finished, it was pre developed. So TERS three approved this in November 2016. Throughout the construction, it was looked at by DMD and inspected for compliance and TERS three reimbursement in March '20. Now what was listed on the presentation at that time was a project valuation of $15,000,000 but nowhere in the contract does it mention anything about a project valuation. Again, it was for 940,000 for construction reimbursement of those six items. So it's really what I have in the way of facts related to the agenda post. Stand by for any questions.
Councilwoman Vaughn.
Mister Sononi, did you put this on the agenda?
No. I did not, councilwoman.
Mayor, did you put it on there?
I did.
I'm trying to figure out why it's on there because this thing's old project. Was everything approved by the TERFs? Was everything approved? They had a vote? Everybody voted for it?
Correct.
Yeah. So what is the problem? You can't answer that. I just don't know what the problem is. I mean, did they receive money for it?
Again, I think the allegation was a difference in the, the valuation statement.
And the allegation and the allegation was bought from who?
Again, I'm just
You know? You don't know? Nobody knows who made the allegation? Who made the allegation?
There was an allegation at the podium. She's sitting right there.
Susie Susie made the allegation.
Mhmm. And about proof?
Well, you bought some stuff. I wouldn't say it was proof. I read it. I didn't see proof. But I'm not gonna talk to you. But we have someone that came up here that bought an allegation. Does she get paid to come up here and talk about some of the council members good and bring stuff up here? I think so. So that right there is a flag for me. No, ma'am. You can I'm talking. And that's a real flag for me when that happens. And to me, what is going on here, this is total retaliation. Was there a federal document altered? Do you know?
Not that I can Nothing. At this point, No.
So we have two items here. Next one's the same thing. I'm trying to figure out what the problem is. The TERs approved it. The money was paid. So why are we doing this? All of a sudden, why are we bringing this forward? It's it's it's vendetta. I'm sorry. And I'm ashamed that that's the way it is going on. Thank you.
There are three different valuations. And, mister Dice, you're being put in a difficult position. And here's the thing. I don't expect you to answer all these questions. But what I do expect and what every council person on this odd dice should expect is answers to those allegations. Because when people have come forward to that same podium and made allegations and we move that forward, we move that forward. So so what's important today is to go and find out. You just stated three different valuations were were made one at the state level one on the tourist application correct
it wasn't on the application
sorry
presentation
presentation and so there were three different ones and those it's my understanding, are tied to incentives or fees paid to the city. Is that correct?
The the 5.56 for the application is the fee to the city. Right. The incentive was specifically tied to six items.
So no one is saying, no one is convicting anyone. It is go look into it because if something was done wrong, if those valuations were written in, I'm not saying that was purposely done. I'm saying I would like to know because allegations were made. So we shouldn't get all defensive over taxpayer dollars that are that are going or or were paid out. I put that on the agenda and I put the next one and I put the one before that and the one before that.
Because there should be concern when we're talking about taxpayer dollars in all of these cases. So for me it's about transparency, understanding what was submitted. I don't expect you, Michael, today to give us that clarity. But I do expect you to go look into it and come back to this council. And if there if everything was done right, you explain that and we move on. And you just said you now put you you have an internal control over what?
So in 2020, we part of the improvement to development services when I first got here in 2019 was to grasp some of these valuations so we could make sure there's consistency across the different filings between state and local.
So we didn't know back in 2020 if the different filings were different. Now because I don't know why, but now you have something in place. So something could have happened then, but there were no controls in place that wouldn't necessarily happen today. Is that correct?
It is. Again, mister
So that's why this is on the agenda. Councilman Barrera.
You know, I mean, this is this is just what we're getting into because this is novella that we've become of you know, now you did this. No, you did this. No, you did this. But you did this. But you did this.
And you know, I mean, jeez. It's not necessarily comical, even though I can try and be flippant about it. But just like I said in the other situation, there's a process. Had I had an open dialogue with miss Saldana, as we had not had one probably for the last two years, But I would have suggested that she take it to the audit auditor because they have a a a fraud waste and abuse hotline. And I I would recommend that we do that in both these situations simply because that's that's the purpose of the audit of the of the inter internal auditor to review those items.
We also have I don't know if it would work. I'd I'd have we'd have to inquire at the audit committee because we have a construction auditor that I'm sure they have some level of expertise that we consult and they're already on retainer. So I I think I I would highly recommend that we move this to the auditor. The only challenge that I'm worried about is that there is a conflict because the developer and the auditor have utilized the same attorney. So I don't know how we get there.
I guess we can discuss that. But I think I think that's that's probably the best thing. And then that way they can go. So go and say, okay, here's the situation. We're being impartial. And because that's what they're supposed to do. If somebody has a complaint of fraud, waste and abuse. That's where it should go. Not that way we have our own internal system to to look at it. Versus of money that's already spent for the public. Those dollars are allocated. Versus all this manufactured controversy that's been created over the last couple of years. So that's that's that's what I would recommend. I think I think miss Saldanha can still do that. If she should like, she can contact the the auditor.
There is a fraud, waste, and abuse hotline, and it's on the website. And so that way, they can continue to look at that regardless. And I'm sure they'll keep us abreast of where it goes. Thank you.
Councilman Scott.
Hey, Michael. I I was trying to catch up with you. So slow slow slow down and go.
Okay. Sorry.
You know, I can tell people I'm from Kingsville. Little words, short sentences. So the presentation material said it was gonna be a $30,000,000 project. Is that what you said?
Also from Kingsville.
So So we can talk.
The building so going through the the agenda language, basically, I was just presenting the valuation. So the valuation of the application in 2017 was 5,560,000.00.
Okay. Was that in the presentation? Hey. We we want some incentive. Well, the the the application. I I heard that.
For two
for TRS three, that application was, from what I've seen at this point, again, still looking into things, the application was for 940,000 for six items. There was nothing related to a construction value at that time.
Got it. Yeah. I'm okay
with that. There was a value in a later presentation, but the the actual agreement, I haven't seen anything that has that value in there.
Okay. So because and that I think maybe I'm part of this flaw because I think the idea is, hey.
If you
go build a a $10,000,000 building that's gonna generate $2,000,000 in tax income, and we're gonna give you a million back, so knock yourself out. And if you if you build a building that's 5,000,000, then you're not gonna get your full incentive because it just didn't happen. And I guess that's not. But in this instance, it was, hey. We wanna give you some money to build a new hotel on Ocean Drive, which I think was a cool idea, Shoreline. And and we want certain things done, and that that was just a list of So
stable environment.
They went with a heavier steel and concrete construction. They improved the landscaping when above what was required by the UDC. They did have to move some trees, apparently, in one of the documents I saw because of the windward side. It made sense to put them in the back. But they just relocated. There was a trellis improvement, pavers, an entrance canopy that wasn't required, and again, the rooftop amenity. And I'm stating from what I've seen in the presentation, it wasn't finished, but they did pre develop, which means they've run water, sewer, electric, things like that for potential future development.
But you didn't see any part of the presentation that says we're gonna build a you know, $30,000,000 building.
In in the March 20 presentation I'm sorry. In the TERS three presentation, yeah, in March '20, there was a slide that said project amount Yeah. 15,000,000.
Okay.
But it wasn't part of the agreement.
Okay. I looked today. I mean, I'm paying attention to everybody. But I did look today on the appraisal district's website, and it says it's currently valued at 14,000,000.
Actually, the 26 value, it's 16,000,000.
Okay. God bless you. And and then when when it was amended, the TURZ board approved the amendment removing the rooftop bar.
From what I've seen, that's that's the that's the case. Because they did spend more money on other things.
So so my take is and I've said this on agenda item. I'll say it again in our later. I I don't think there's anything there there. I I understand the the concern, which I think is odd, that the application says for 5,000,000, but you're you know, you're building up $1,415,000,000 dollar building. But you're telling me that in 2020, you made some changes or you all made some changes to try to make that closer to the value. So which is
Again, that's at this point, that's what it looks like. We're No. But talking about a building that started ten years. Yeah. Valuations have gone crazy since then.
Yeah. Know. But no. I get it. But so when somebody comes in and says they're gonna build a $10,000,000 building, and they come to you with a a permit application says it's three, you have a better ability today than you did years ago. Absolutely. Yeah. No. It's not three. It's
do. Again, there's some policies that have been put into place to verify those numbers better. And again, we're looking across the board for what's filed at the state or any other filings.
That that you've mentioned that. I I don't understand that something is filed with the state. Educate me on the state's filing and how that impacts our valuation or our application.
It doesn't necessarily affect our application. The state law requires any construction job of commercial, aspect to be, if it's over $50,000, to be reviewed for state accessibility rules. That's where you hear a RAS or registered accessibility specialist gets involved. Those are filed at the state. The state reviews that separately from any building permit, but you have to attach an evaluation evaluation to that.
That's how their fees are based. What we've done in 2020 is, again, if if somebody values x at the state and y at the city, we engage the applicant applicant to figure out why. Now That's correct. There's a lot of instances where an applicant may use an architect or an engineer, and they file that stuff separately from the owner. In this particular case, it does look like an architect filed one, and the owner filed the building permit.
I I appreciate the education. And what I thought I heard you say previously is you don't mess with the state's valuation. That's kind of a big deal. You can come in and try to snowball us, but you don't mess with the state.
Is that
I've I've heard horror stories about dealing with the state, but, I don't actually have their enforcement action with me at this
time. Okay. Well, I thought I saw where the valuation was 14,000,000. Now you're saying it's 16. So, you know, if we can wait a day, it may go to 18, and we'll take that money and put it in the TERS. That was my concern is that we're building a $16,000,000 building. Say it's less on the application process, but that's it sounds like you've made some improvements. I I don't I don't think there's anything here. I appreciate the the conversation. I appreciate the question.
And I'll say what I said on the mayor's deal. If if someone wants to file a complaint, file a complaint. I mean, there's a there's a process for that through the the auditors of fraud fraud, waste, and abuse hotline. But I I don't I don't see anything here. I will tell you, have a lot of people that stay there. It's always busy and they love the hotel, and I think it's made a a difference downtown and started some interest in, you know, building hotels downtown. So I'm good. Thanks. Thanks, Michael.
Councilman Vaughn.
Mark, those were some really good questions. It really clarified a lot. So pat yourself on the back. But that was really good. Thank you for asking them. Mister Sonone, because they've been brought forward, I don't have a problem with them being investigated. But what is the proper way? I'm with Mark. I don't think there is a thing here to see. I think if there had been something, it would have came up way before now. So what is the proper way for someone to file it so that they know?
Yeah. Well, on this
item city wants to look
at Right. Yeah. So this this item here is overseen by the downtown management districts. And then just to give Michael Dice some cover, he the city staff didn't process this application. We didn't pay the money out. We didn't inspect to see if the work was done Because the DMD, the downtown management district, and their board oversee the process of downtown incentives, number one. So someone could complain to the DMD to say, hey, I think something might be off there. We've talked about council here. They could they could file a complaint to the auditor or a a request that the auditor look into this.
And they would have all the paper trailed, emails, everything. The city should have some documentation too, so it shouldn't be that hard. You did a good job of having nothing there. Thank you. Okay. You answered it. Thanks.
Councilwoman Kompos. Thank you, mayor.
Okay. Just out of curiosity, how old is this hotel?
Well, the perm original permit was filed in February 2017.
2017, and we're in 2026. So almost ten years old.
The c of o was issued in 2019.
Correct. Okay.
I wasn't sure because I was like, Residence Inn? That's been there for a long time. Okay. So, I mean, but again, I mean, you know, there is a process. And I guess you can go, I mean, twenty years, thirty years. I mean, when how the process is there's no time frame? I mean, that somebody can file a complaint after thirty years. I mean, what how what's the time frame?
I don't have a time frame at this point, but again, we're working on the short notice to to get those questions answered.
Yeah. Okay. But, I mean, I I am also on the audit committee, I'm I'm just yeah. I'm I'm kind of surprised that it did not go that route. But, again, I didn't know that I don't know how long, you know, a claim can be brought forward. I mean, is it ten years, fifteen years, twenty years? I mean, that's what I kinda would like to get clarified, if possible, because why waste our time if it's already past, you know, the time?
I asked Miles that question, but he what can you answer, Miles?
Well, I mean, it would depend what the claim is for and if it's being pursued in a criminal or a civil context. It's they the you know, in a civil context, the statutes of limitations for municipalities can be really long and bound only by latches potentially, although the contracts might have limitations built in. But that's if if something if some wrongdoing was proven. If some wrongdoing is criminal in nature and it's a it's a felony level, then you might have something that's three year a three year statute of limitations. It just depends on what the type of allegation is.
Okay. Is that part of the audit committee? Like, it's gonna probably come to us, I guess. I don't know. I mean, you know, this case. So I guess we'll we'll discuss it later when it does arrive. Thank you. Councilman Kuntum.
Thank you, mayor. Couple questions. Does city staff see anything wrong with allegations?
So there is a difference in the permitting valuations. And, again, to address what was changed in 2020, that change was there put into place so we wouldn't have those types of questions. So it happens. Again, part of development is, we'll just say, meowing and hissing between developers and regulatory, making sure that those items I've been doing this twenty years. I had an office depot at another city value themselves at $0.88 a square foot, so that's obvious undervalue. We do work with the applicants to make sure that they're valued closer correctly, and again, part of that is making sure that those different filings with different entities match.
Are we having those issues today with other permits?
There's rare Whatever. There's rare occasions, but, you know, again, we we have a a really good department. It's run real well. And, again, we make sure that we address those things before the permits are issued.
Yeah. And, you know, I hate to say this, but I agree with Baetta. I mean, if there's issues, take it to the audit you know, to the auditor. And I I heard him laughing back there. You hear him laughing? I know. I
don't
know much about it, to be honest with you. I just wanna make sure that city staff looks at it, makes sure everything's good. My understanding, I could be wrong, but I believe John Bill was involved in this back then, and I trust him. You know? I I believe there's some partners in that hotel that I very much respect besides Ajit.
Has other partners in that hotel, and they're very good people in this community. And I don't, you know, I don't think they would do anything like this, but but if there is a problem or you guys see a problem, you know, I would like for you guys to recommend something so we can move forward with it, because, you know, it it is taxpayer money. Right? So, you know, I I don't think nobody gets a hall pass. So, if the city staff recommends it, let us know.
But like I said, I did go through some of the paperwork, and to piece it together, it's hard to understand it, But I wasn't here ten years ago, and so and I and I'm I'm I'm still against giving money to hoteliers. I I mean, I just I think we should give money to other people, not hoteliers. My opinion. But anyhow, that's it. Thank you so much.
Councilman Roy.
You know, being somebody that has chaired the downtown tours for years, one of the things and and in this particular case, I don't really have a comment. But one of the things I want the public to understand, because it sounds like you made a change in 2020, but one of the things that we made, Peter and I'm trying to remember when we did this. But when you you know, prior to this period of time, and I think it was, what, '23 or '24 when the downtown management district was basically managing every project. And then we put a $5,000,000 cap on it and said that if it's if the project's over 5,000,000 that the city your department would manage that. Right?
We would be at least more involved, I think, as it Yes.
Right.
Because somebody that's job basically on the commercial side is out there inspecting and looking at things and making sure that a project moves the way that it's supposed to move. And it was really kind of apparent that that was a that was a big task to ask the DMD staff
to do
that because they don't have any expertise in in project management. So my only comment is is that I think now we've got a it sounds like we've improved our processes greatly from before. And I just want the public to know that. Mhmm.
Councilwoman Patson. Michael,
my experience serving and chairing between different tourist boards is we actually really do have a system in place for accountability. What I've seen is we do not expense incentives. We do not expense any sort of guaranteed reimbursements or anything like that unless checkmarks, checkpoints are met. What I've witnessed is staff follows through with that because I've asked a number of times, you know, well, where are they on their deliverables if this is their request? If if we're talking about a payout, have they met those parameters that we all agreed to?
I find those types of actions incredibly essential, but very valuable. And so my question is, did that take place here? Because I would presume I mean, if we're doing that across the TURS boards now, I would think that's always been our schematic.
Again, it it does appear that this was inspected in March '20 to meet the six items that were part of the TURS agreement inspected by DMD staff.
So at that time, we had this and it's you don't just walk up to a TURS board and say, hey. I would like some money for my project. And they say, what's your project? Okay. Yeah. Let's give you money, and they write a check. It's a it's a period of time. You know, there's a process when you go through an application like this. So to me, I would presume that during this project, like any other, they had a process. They were they had a point a at application where we reviewed it.
It had to go through a lot to even get to a TURS board for approval if things are like they are now. Staff has to recommend that, gets to the board, the board approves it, project makes its way, checkpoints are and deliverables are inspected, incentives are then awarded or not, and things do change, but that's the board's decision at those different times. If the change arises, they can approve it or deny it or modify all of that. So I would presume that to say that this was paid out and closed, the board approved that based on checkpoints delivered.
Again, at this point, that's what it looks like. We're still looking. It's a lot of a lot of documents that we're going through. Again, this was originally applied for in 2016 with the approval in 2020, so it was a four year process.
It's a it's a process. It's quite a process. You don't just walk up and ask for an incentive, it's handed to you. So that's that's my whole thing. I I have to admit, you know, having our agenda and having no nothing supplemental here, my only recourse would, of course.
I'm sorry. Sorry. And my apologies. I'll walk out.
Jeez. My only recourse would be to hope that good policy that we rely on today was in place then. So perhaps that's something that we can we can pull back up is what was at the final signing? What what did that look like?
And there and, there may be other policies that we see looking at this that that make it even better. I mean, that's that's where we're at. We're still looking at at what's there, but this is just the
Excuse me, Michael. Is it we or the DMDs looking at this or both?
Well, I meant more in the permitting process. I apologize.
Okay. The DMD is looking into this. Right? Yep. Yeah.
Well, so are we.
They said they approved it. We don't we don't have any of the paperwork. We don't have we didn't do the inspection. We being the city Well, we have
we have the building inspections, but not the final two
So the DMD, Michael Dice, has been in touch with the downtown management district executive leadership, and they're looking into it. But we do encourage to turn it over to the auditor if there's more evidence there. Correct. You know? Yeah.
Okay. So going through because I know that we have, all day long, every day, people come up to public comment, and I'm glad they do. I, for one, have been able to follow back up with constituents a number of times, and they've had very good input. So I value that process. But I would think perhaps having that information in a public comment setting could trigger an internal say, hey, somebody's asking about it, let's look at it, have our information because we said it was done. We issued the funds. Thank you.
Okay. Thank you. And Peter, yeah, they they are looking at the permitting side of it. There's there's two sides to it. And and I would say, I think it's a good term, Councilwoman Paxson. Good policy was not it didn't exist back then, which is why they now have that internal control. And this is this item is really about transparency and understanding what was submitted. It is not about, you know, convicting anyone. It it it is about making certain. I think he made it a point earlier that there was concern with the different the numbers. So go look into it. You certainly don't need to be doing this, you know, today, and this and this item is about let's look into it, and and let's be transparent to the public. So with that Michael, thank you. Would anyone like to make pub public comment on item number 20?
K. Suzy Luna Sardagna. Point of clarification, councilwoman. I'm not getting paid by anybody. Yes. Let's get this done. And let's get this straight. If you can prove it, bring it
on. Guys.
Okay? But this is what I'm telling you. You're looking at everything you haven't asked for receipts. If there were receipts, that would have been in the information that I brought you because that's public information. There aren't any. And we're talking about a hotel ten years ago, they just got the check last month for the last part of it. You know how I know? Because people tell me and I find out for sure. You wanna talk about things that are happening now? You've got another hotel that you gave $2,000,000 for that somebody screamed it's fraud.
It's fraud. It's fraud. It's fraud. But now now it's not fraud. Now it's for someone that are your friends, that you know, that you respect, and you don't want anything to happen to them. So now it's not fraud. It's just that common mistake. Do I go before the audit committee? I know who's on the audit committee and I know that the auditor is friends with the attorney that represents the hotelers. So what kind of an fair shake am I gonna get there?
Are the taxpayers because that's who I'm talking for, the taxpayers, the people. You seem to forget that. You pride yourselves in being the only ones that can talk and to do things. Well, you know what? Little old women like me can too. And we bring it up to your space so that you can take a look at it in the right way. Not because they're your friends, because it's the right thing to do and because it's the taxpayers that are being chastised and falsified. Take a look at the paperwork I brought you. I didn't bring it for you to use for trash. I brought it for you to look at.
That's what you need to do, look at it. And I thank councilman Barrera for suggesting what he did. But guess what? I know what I'm up against. I'm no dummy. My mother didn't raise any fools. What I can tell you is that this is an issue that's being hidden by more than one person. That's falsification and there's a vendetta going on. And it's not by me. It's by people that sit on that podium. Thank you.
Michael Miller, District 2. Sorry, I've kind of walked in halfway through this conversation, but I understand miss Saldani's concerns, and and I've kinda looked into at here. I've never been part of a TURS application, but I also understand that whenever you have a investment in a hotel or a business or something like that, there's a lot of different moving parts. There's soft costs including design. There's the cost of the building.
There's the cost of the furniture, fixtures, and equipment that go into that building. I have been I have submitted several building permit applications to the city of Corpus Christi, and I have some suggestions. I think that probably the DS tag needs to look at how those building permits are calculated because there's a lot of confusion. Whenever you fill out one of those applications, it asks for four pieces of information. It well, five.
It asks for the square footage of the building on each floor, and it asks for the cost of the building, and it asks for the cost of the mechanical, which is HVAC equipment. It cost asks for the plumbing, and it asks for the electrical. Does not ask for parking lots, does not ask for swimming pools, doesn't ask for the cost of beds and chairs and everything that goes into that building. A lot of times, the architects submit the initial application, and it's a two part fee. There's a building plan review fee and a building permit fee.
And if an architect brings it in prior to the bid, then the calculation of that number is skewed. Right? There's the plan review fee that they pay, and then whenever we call down there to pick up the building permit, it's like, well, the remainder of the balance is for the building permit. We pay the fee. We don't know what they submitted as the cost of the building on the architect side. But I think if we go into the DS tag and have a discussion about this, we can perfect this and make it more clear on future projects. But you gotta separate a TERS application from a building permit application. They're two completely different things. Thank you.
Hello. Sandra Meyer. I recommend that we have an audit on this to really take care of all our developers. That way, every time we have a hotel being built, we're not having issues come up. I've got nosy and just looked at difference between the Downtown Management District numbers and the tax records based on the year that they were built.
And every large project that was showing up in the Downtown Management District at that time, there was, like, a $1,015,000,000 dollar difference. And so that would not be on mister David. That would be something with the process with the city itself. And I don't know if that's been fixed, but like I said and just being in fairness, I I do think this would be a good audit. And we don't wanna be getting sued and getting involved in stuff every time somebody tries to build something. So that's just my personal recommendation. Thank you.
Thank you. Anyone else?
Good afternoon. John Bell, district four. I represent Shoreline Hospitality, which was the applicant in this, process, and just like to clarify a couple of things. This was a downtown tourist, program that was not based upon total investment. It was based upon providing a certain number of amenities, and those amenities were initially approved by the tourist board, and that was the plan that went ahead. In the building inspection department, as the gentleman explained, there's a plan review process, a different process. When the plans are initially submitted, oftentimes the project has not been bid. There's not an idea of what the total costs are going to be. And actually, it's kinda like selling a used car and going to, Kevin Kiesdick's place. You can say what you sold the car for, but they say, no.
We'll tell you this is what our table says it's going to be. And this development services staff has a table that says square foot. Okay. Top of construction, concrete, steel, or wood. They'll say this is your this is your fee based upon our calculation. Now when you go to TDLR in the state, it's at a different time. It's later in the process. Oftentimes, the architect does have hard bids, but the TDLR fee is just a flat fee. And so they just state whatever the contract amount is because TDLR doesn't tell you, you know, your fee is gonna be based upon something else. And so as a result, there's no correlation between the building permit fees and this TURS application.
The TURS application was based upon providing the amenities. It's true that the roof rooftop bar was not finished. Different amenities were provided. It was all provided to the TURS board in 2020 in March in a big packet, and the TURS board and mister Roy was the presiding officer at that time, looked it over and said, sure. You qualify. That we we like the final amenities. It satisfies. I do not know who the auditor is. If somebody said that I'm buddies with the auditor or something like that. I do represent the downtown the DMD.
And at the time, I talked to them I have a conflict on this project. In dealing with this project, if you have any questions, need to consult through the TERS, who's represented by the city legal department. Talk with them. Don't talk with me because I'm I'm out of this. I cannot get involved in this. But just to clarify the error, there's a difference in the way these projects come down, and it was all approved in 2018. And the reason why the building permit number is different is because development services gives you that number. Now they've changed their tables, and my builder clients say they're a lot higher now. But nevertheless, it's kinda like you get the number that you got, and that's the number that you live with.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, mister Bell. Okay. We'll go ahead and close public comment and move on to item 20. That is discussion and possible action regarding allegations of discrepancies and information provided across city permitting, state accessibility review filings, and city incentive applications for the Courtyard and Residence Inn by Marriott, including differences in reported project valuations that impact fee assessments and the calculation of incentive amount. Direction to city staff to investigate the cause and basis of such discrepancies, including independent review or audit if warranted, and to present findings into any necessary follow-up action within city staff authority to the council.
And this is similarly the same thing. So Michael Dice, we do not expect you to sit here and give a presentation. These are concerns. Right. These are things we need to go back and look into and bring back to the council. So it is completely clear. And you can state whatever, you know, you were going to, but I just want to preface it with that.
You want to go ahead and go through with that, or you want to take questions? Basically, have the same kind of facts as the last time. Again, Michael Dysenner. I'm assistant city manager. So in this particular instance, the building application was submitted in February 2025 for 10,300,000. The TDR application at the time was submitted by their architect. It was listed at 12,000,000. That had been revised after that. Like I said, the new process was in place. We addressed it.
That was then lowered. If you look now on the state, it's $10,300,000 as well. We made that change in 2020, as stated before. The difference here is this is a Type B agreement, and it was for 2,000,000 for construction reimbursement. Now what we've seen in the contract for that under section three d, it states the investment of construction will be 34,000,000. Type b approved that in August '25, and city council approved that in September '25. That's what I have at this point. Again, still looking into
And you're looking into it and bring that back. Thank you. Councilwoman Paxson.
I I just wanna say, and Peter, correct me if I'm wrong, but serving on the audit committee, we have a number of professionals who can conduct an audit, and it is possible for an auditor to recuse themselves and pass the topic to another auditor. So that way, my interest is that our community always feels like if they have an issue, they can bring it to the correct channels. And if there's reason for our community to feel like there could be a conflict, so therefore they cannot voice a woe. I want to make sure that we're clear on avenues that they can still have that need met and and be validated in any sort of con concern. So maybe that's the question point is if if somebody has something that they feel needs to be evaluated, they disclose in there that they feel like there could be a conflict.
They're you know, I don't know that process exactly.
I mean, that's a that's a that's a good assessment of it, our overview of it, the auditor can hire an outside firm like we have for construction audits. They can recuse themselves from the audit entirely and have their staff do it. They could have no staff involved and just have a third party do it, kind of like what Nueces River Authority is doing. So there's a lot of options.
Okay. Because I just want to clarify that because it does really matter to me that in everything we're transparent, we're open, we're accountable. That that is very important to me. I just wanna make sure that we we state how our constituents can do that. I will kinda I do wanna go back to the comment that was made after my comment. There was a process. It may not be the same dot by dot as the current process, but the fact that in 2020, this came before council or the board, the TURS board, and a question of amenities, whether they were swapped, changed, or whatever, it was approved. Right? That's what you said?
It was inspected and approved by TURS board.
Yes. And I apologize. I'm jumping to the last one, but I had my light on, and I didn't get to talk before we moved items. So I apologize. Don't mean to do that. I mean to say we have a process in place that goes over those things. And I do like that point about looking at a process with the DMD Uh-huh. If if there's discrepancies across everything. Again, I'm sorry. I tried to say these on the last item.
Yeah. I'm okay.
Thank you, Michael. Would anyone like to make public comment on item number 20?
You're talking about the new hotel, the one that I gave you information on. There's a $2,000,000 incentive that you gave that hotel. There's a $34,000,000 value on it and permits are only $1,010,000,000. So you can tell me hey that's a mistake they haven't done anything bad. Well guess what it's the taxpayers that you all are supposed to be representing that are being put to the test on this.
You need to really look at it. This wasn't ten years ago, this was right now. Right now you approved it just a few minutes of meetings back, and it is an act of falsified information. There are papers that I handed you that are signed by the state If you're clear to look at them, there's papers that I send you that showed the presentation by the developer. So if you're going to ignore all those things, you want me to go to the auditor.
Oh yeah, that was my first thought of going to the audit committee, but then I found out who's in the audit committee and then I found out that the auditor is friends with Ajeev who happens to have the same lawyer that he does. So I didn't expect to get anything that was very honest. I am a taxpayer. I represent the people that come to me and that ask me to bring these things to you. Do I take the abuse that they're telling me that doesn't bother me?
I've been told worse. Trust me I have. In all the years I've stood here and advocated for the taxpayer I've been called worse. And it doesn't bother me because I'm here for the people. Something that every one of you should be doing. Friends, there's a lot of friends, but sometimes you have to watch those friends because they may have a knife in your back.
Anyone else?
Just a couple of comments. I represent Padre North LLC, which is the applicant in this. It is different. It's a type b entity, and it is the performance based on the total investment in jobs being created, very different from the downtown TERS. The projection investment will be $34,000,000.
After my client working at it, it's probably gonna be over $40,000,000. Again, though, the building permit cost is based upon something development services runs through their tables and calculates and tells the builders what the costs are for MEP in the different calculations, and that's the amount. And it was done since the changes, and so it was compared with TDLR, and it was updated. And it likely will be updated again whenever my client gets to the point of actually going forward with the actual construction of the project to proceed. Right now, he's engaged in other things.
But the contract will be fully performed with the type b in making at least a $34,000,000 investment in providing the payroll and the jobs that are required under the type b corporation thing, he won't get any money. That's as simple as it has, and it and it has nothing to do with the building permit situation. But that is something to be developed in the future. I'd be happy to answer any questions that you might have.
We yeah. We don't have a question.
Lord willing, you'll see again.
Thank you. Yeah.
Thank you. Okay. We're gonna close public comment. And oh, come on.
Mayor and council, city staff, development services, good afternoon. My name is Ajith David, not Rajiv Davis, not Ajeev Davis, not Davis. Ajeev, I have no relationship with Barney Davis. I'd like to make very clear, I have no relationship with the New York rapper Ja Rule. I don't know who he is.
I would be honored to be partners with him. We would have concerts on the rooftop of my residence and hotel. I just wanna let you know Mark and Michael Dice too. I'm from Kingsville also. The permitting the permitting process, I know a bit about it. I've done it in many cities. When Peter Zanoni and Michael Dice came on board, they cleaned up the process here with development services. There were processes in place. Everything was inspected not once, multiple times. If you'll have a question, you'll are free to call.
But if there's questions, if there's allegations, publicly, this is how they ought to be resolved. And one of these days, I am gonna contact Ja Rule to come over here and perform, And that will be an economic driver in Corpus Christi. Thank you.
Thank you. Is there anyone else? Okay. I'm gonna close public comment. And again, that item was for transparency and direction to look into the allegations. Alright. Next item is item 21, and I will be stepping away.
Rebecca. Mhmm. Rebecca.
Okay. Now for the record, council member Roy will be, abstaining on this item, recusing himself on this item. I have
I need to step away when I abstain. Right?
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir. So I have a brief introduction. I don't know if you wanna hear this, but so on May March 24 mayor pro tem and council on March 24, a majority of the council approved a motion to set an agenda item and date for preliminary and procedural matters for our removal hearing at the April 14 council meeting. So in accordance with this motion, the purpose of today's item is to discuss and act on the preliminary and procedural matters related to the removal action. So possible actions that council could take today include scheduling a pretrial hearing and a removal hearing, adopting rules of procedure for the hearing and pretrial hearings, and certifying articles of impeachment.
This is a charter requirement because it provides the mayor with the charges against her, and it could be acted on today or deferred. For your consideration, the draft resolution included in your packet sets forth the rules of procedure used in the nineteen eighty seven Mendez removal hearing. Additionally, the resolution proposes May 19 as the date for the pretrial hearing. This date is proposed because it is approximately thirty days from today, which may satisfy the due process requirement under the charter. And also on March 13, the petitioner submitted proposed articles of impeachment for consideration, and these articles were included in your packet. Okay.
Thank you. Councilman Hernandez? How do I do it? Right here. Oh,
I think. Okay. Thank you, mayor pro tem. Because our city attorney has to recuse himself. I need a motion to consent to Lisa Aguilar. Advising the city council on procedural matters related to the petition, to removal the mayor pursuant to comment eight of section 3.08 of the Texas rules of disciplinary conduct.
I'll entertain a motion.
So move. Second.
All in favor say aye.
Any opposed? Same. Motion passes. Okay. Discussion and or possible actions on preliminary and procedural matters for removal proceedings of the mayor including but not limited to potential certification of articles of impeachment, potential suspension, potential reprimand, potential denial of removal action, potential scheduling of pretrial hearings, and or removal hearings, and or resolution scheduling a pretrial hearing on 05/19/2026 to entertain motion, witness list, request for summonses, and all other related matters to the removal action of the mayor and adopting rules of procedure for city council hearing for removal action.
Can we have staff presentation? Do we have anything?
I made that that brief statement. I don't know if
That's it.
Miss Aguilar has anything else to say or mister Zanoni.
That that's it. What Rebecca said.
Alright. That's all we're gonna do then.
Okay. So
Does council have any questions?
Yes. I do, please. Okay. We've received in our packet resolution scheduling the pretrial hearing for 05/19/2026 and to entertain motions and witnesses list requests for summons, and all other related matters, for the removal action of the mayor and adopting rules and procedures for the hearing for removal action. Now the rules and, miss Ayala Ayala, on this specific thing, we are looking at the rules that were done back in 1987 for the removal of Frank Mendez. Is that correct?
Yes. Turn on turn on your mic. Yes.
Okay. So these are the rules that are attached to this are specifically the ones that were were done back when Frank Mendez was removed and no other changes have been really made to these.
That's correct.
Okay. So we're not doing it. We're not recreating the wheel. We're just moving forward with kind of the same rules. I do would like to make a an amendment to this to the resolution. On section one at the end of the sent at the end of the sentence where it says, all motions witnesses list request for summons and related filings must be filed with the city secretary. To be added five days prior to the May 19 pretrial hearing.
Okay. Making a
motion. I made I made the amendment.
Okay. Is anyone have a second to the minute? Do we go ahead and vote on that? Rebecca?
With them. We'll vote on the amendment first.
The amendment if you look at the result as a resolution. Where it has section one and two for to accept the the scheduling the pretrial of May 19. At the end of section one. You would have all motion witness list request for summons and related filings must be filed with the city secretary. Five days prior to the May 19 pretrial hearing.
Okay. Any other questions? Mark. Go ahead.
You have any concern Do about impact on due process with the five day the five day deadline? No.
I don't
No, sir.
Alright. Thank you.
Is that it? Councilmember Barrera.
Here. Lisa, go to sleep.
Okay.
You know, I I have I have my own attorney and, of course, I just reached out to him. And, you know, basically, my fear is that if I move forward on this and I'm in contempt with lawsuit or the TRO because I know there's a hearing tomorrow. I mean, your in in your professional opinion, if I vote on this, then I I wouldn't be held in contempt. Would I be held in contempt?
I wouldn't know what what possible contempt action you might face. You said you spoke to your attorney.
Yeah. I have I have one that that that, you know, he usually handles compliance. So this isn't his forte, but he just did the best he could. So I'm I'm asking your opinion.
I'm not aware of anything that would cause you to be held in contempt.
Okay. Thank you.
Any other council questions?
Miss Vaughn, we do need to ask for public comment.
Yes. I was here ready to do that.
Thank you ma'am.
Would anyone like to speak on this item 21?
Susy Luna Saldana. Just a little while ago you said that allegations should be looked at and the proper procedure should be followed. Allegations have been made and I have always told you all that I call talk for the voters and the voters shouldn't be disfranchised. Well let me tell you something, you're not giving this issue the correct venue because it would be to the audit committee. That's what you said just a few minutes ago mayor Proten. That's what you said. So I'm asking you, are you going to have double standards for everything?
Thank you miss Saldanha. Anyone else?
Julian Hernandez, District 3. I'm never in favor in favor of of anything of this sort of nature. What I am in favor of is I try to look at it in a different light and and put it in perspective. If somebody makes if somebody makes a sexual harassment claim or a sexual harassment lawsuit, through the process it goes to, it climbs up the channel. It has to be investigated.
With that said, I hear a lot of people that I don't know why they're trying to oust the mayor. I don't know why they're trying to do this. I don't know why they're trying to do that. And they throw a lot of mud at those that voted to do this. And they have sat here quietly listening to all the mud thrown at them because, in the words of Forrest Gump, I'm saying, I'm I'm not a smart man.
But what I hear here is that those gentlemen that came up and explained the whole process that why it only takes five votes. And for those people that are educated more than I am to sit there and say they don't understand is either they're throwing mud at those that are supposed to be advocating for those sexual harassment people. Those that are supposed to be, you know, putting those processes in place and following those. And the people that voted to have this brought here today are doing just that, their job. What they're entitled to do by those five votes that were were meant to bring it up here.
And the rest that are saying that I don't understand what's going on, maybe they missed it a couple of meetings ago where that a guy explained it all. Either that or just they just don't care. And if they don't care, then they don't care about processes. To blame the council members that pushed this through, I applaud them because they're doing the process. And for those that are are casting it aside, they're some of their cronies that sit next to them, antics to divert the system because they don't really ask questions.
They just vote yes or don't do this or whatever. They get in line behind stuff that probably isn't right. And and I'm saying that that's not right. But those that pushed it up the process, wanna say thank you. I wanna say thank you for not for receiving the mud that's been thrown in your face and not doing what other people do and and yell at the people that are out here. Thank you.
Thank you, sir. Anyone else?
This is for transparency. Rachel Caballero d one. I'm not a political consultant that is paid for my commentary. I filed this petition because there is enough factual evidence to support it. The petition is supported not only by the original petitioners, but 2,350 people via an online petition that has received five and a half times more signatures than any online petition that has been presented with the city of Corpus Christi.
We have been trusting public servants to be moral and honest per your oath to office and the city charter. Is the whole city charter illegal when its own mayor's lawyer is saying that it is? There is proof that there was willful violation of any code of ethics. There has been malfeasance, incompetence, inability, and willful neglect in performance of official duties. This is factual.
There is proof. People should not be able to buy their way through perjury. I ask this council to continue to do what is lawfully required. There is no price to pay, no high price to pay to exposing collusion, corruption, or organized crime. It's already cost the community millions and could cost us billions.
Filing an ethics complaint was not an option considering that they must go through miles and continue in confirmation of the bias involved in that process as we heard earlier today. I am following the city charter. If there was wrongdoing, we have to ask ourselves this as a community. If there was no wrongdoing, why are people trying so hard to keep the truth hidden? The truth fears no investigation.
Thank you for your support, and I will have all the information that I need to prove factually that there was a violation of code of ethics of the city charter. Thank you for your time.
Thank you.
Robin Cox, District 3. And first I want to thank all of y'all to bringing this to light. There may have been five signatures on it, but for every one of those five there's thousands that back it up. Like Rachel said, we have over 2,000 signatures. People just want to know the truth. And of that 2,000, there's probably two to 3,000 more who are afraid to put their names because of retaliation. I keep speaking of that retaliation. We just saw that earlier. I feel like we're in school. You did something to me, I'll dig up something.
They're probably gonna try to dig up something on all of us. We'll be on little talk shows, TV. Some of us have even reached out to people that we thought were news people that wanted to come down and help the city uncover. But if they put a price on it to come down, they're just National Enquirer type of people coming to do that. So we just want the truth and transparency.
If somebody accused me of something, I would want them I would bring out the truth and wanna defend myself so everyone can know that's the truth. But before they start digging stuff up on me, I want you all to know in the eighth grade I did cheat on a test. So if you're gonna dig that far back, and in high school I skipped school, I'm sorry. But that's about as much as you all can dig up on me, maybe you're gonna try and dig up more, but we've got to stop doing that. We just can't be afraid to bring something to light, a crime.
Somebody else asked me, why are you bringing this up when there's an election in seven months? Because we have to know the truth. We've they've done it to other public officials because if we don't know the truth, they could just get getting reelected bigger and bigger offices. If you have nothing to hide, just bring out the truth. Thank you all for being brave. This is a hard thing to do. Thank you.
Thank you. Is there anyone else in the public that want to comment? Hello.
Good afternoon. My name is Sandy Fernandez. I'm in District 2. I've never been up here before, so I'm kinda nervous, but I just wanna say that it did go through the process. You had agencies come and give you what their findings are. By doing this, you're saying you don't believe in our police officers that did an investigation and other agencies. You're also taking the vote away from the voters that voted for her. I did not vote for her, but I don't agree with this process. You are saying that you want transparency and they gave it to y'all. You just don't like the answers. So that makes it a vendetta and it's wrong. Thank you.
Thank you. Anyone else? Seeing none, I'm gonna close public comment. Any more council members? Mister Cantu?
Thank you. This is this is a hard decision for sure. I'm gonna be quite honest with you. I do not like what's on the charter. I don't like it. I don't like the fact that five people could put a petition and request a hearing for removal. Five people. And that's been on the charter for a long time, seems like, since the eighties. The process sucks. I don't like it.
But I can tell you this. If I was on that petition or girl Hernandez was on the petition, they would have done it, gone through the same process. And I know that the city feels that this is a circus because in reality, it is. It's it's everything is crazy right now. We have water issues.
We have credit issues. And I wonder if there's a credit repair company out there to fix the city credit. You know? There's a lot of issues in Corpus Christi, and I know a lot of people say we have other businesses to to attend to besides this removal thing. You know, today wasn't a decision to remove the mayor. I wasn't coming in today to remove the mayor. That wasn't the vote for today. That wasn't gonna be the case. I feel that she has the right for a fair hearing just like anyone else. I wanna make sure that she has the right time, you know, to to prepare and to do whatever the case is.
You know? We don't know if it's if it's anything anything there, you know, but the fact that someone filed a petition, we have to listen to it. We have to go through the process. And, you know, for so long, this council, they talk about the five. The five are not yes people.
They're not. When I campaigned, I promised the people that I was gonna represent them, the people of Corpus Christi. And for so long, for many, many years, they had the majority of the vote, and they didn't question why are we doing this. Why are we spending $5,000 5 sorry. 5 $44,000,000 on a 5,000 square foot building.
In the past, they will just approve it like nothing. But now we're asking questions, and we're getting attacked. And, you know, I've been a big supporter of the mayor when she first ran for city council at large. The two terms, when he ran against Joe Macomb, I supported you. I love a strong woman, a Latino woman running the city.
We might have our differences of policy making and political stance, but, you know, this is not a political stunt that I'm trying to do. I'm just wanna hear the petition, get over and done with. And I just feel that that, you know, if the tables were turned, they would have done the same thing to us. And and and that's just the straight up truth, and they know it too. If they had the opportunity, they would do the same thing to us.
So, you know, I just I just go through the process. I wanted to I wanted everything fair. I I I don't want any any shortcuts. You know? I think everybody should be fair about it. And that's just where I stand today, and and I wanna have some more comments in a few minutes.
Okay. Thank Councilwoman Paxson?
There we go. Thank you. This is a very hard decision, but I I have a couple of questions while we have someone here to represent the legal side. Can you tell me today's decision, is that material to what may or may not play out on what what could be said as May for a hearing date. This is just a formality.
It's a pre hearing matter. It's part of the process, but you're not taking any other act that I've heard so far, any action other than setting a schedule and adopting rules of procedure. So in answer to your question, it's it's part of the process.
But it's immaterial to any sort of findings and judgment?
Only to the effect that it's part of the process to get to a final decision.
So what I'm trying to get at is today's decision is not in fact an action to remove the mayor. Correct. Today's decision is to set a date to hear evidence one way and the other. Correct. So this is not an action to remove the mayor?
That's correct.
Okay. I wanted to put that to to have that stated from our legal side, because I I do firmly I do firmly want to say here that there's been a lot of allegations that today, the vote that took place a couple weeks ago and any of this is a political stunt and a witch hunt by five the majority of council, I won't say five, I'll say however many it took to move this to today. And all this is is setting a hearing date. It is it's an administrative check mark, basically.
Yes. Okay. Agree with that.
So I I think council member Cantu spoke very well. And I have to say, you know, as a single member district representative, I have had people reach out to me with a lot of different opinions. But what I promised my district is to represent the whole. And I've had a lot a lot of district four reach out and say they're very supportive of a hearing. And I wanna say, that I've actually heard citywide a lot of interest in hearing this.
And for myself, this wasn't a decision prompted by counsel. I certainly didn't prompt this. As far as I'm concerned, I may or may not agree with the mayor on different things, but I know November's coming. To me, November's coming. I've always stood by, let the people decide.
The people brought to us a petition, and the charter that I swore an oath on said you shall. We have had to make some really tough decisions in my very short political career, and this has gotta be one of the hardest. One of the hardest. But it's because a petition was brought to us following the parameters of our city charter. I I don't know how to say that any louder or any more clear.
This is not a witch hunt. This is not a vendetta. This is not anything that a council member has just pushed to get here, at least for me. I can speak that, and I and I do believe that it's the truth, though. But it's been a very, very difficult decision then, and we have a duty to uphold our charter and represent our city.
And until we change the charter, currently, it says a at least five at least five registered voters. I think there's room for updating the charter, and I would very much like to see that happen. But this is not a witch hunt. This is not the attempts of to remove a ban to remove any elected official. And I myself also I had I had no interest in removing an elected official today.
So when I saw all of this information, most of which I got through the media, that's how I found out about a lot of this drama. I was I was a little confused by it, but, hopefully, what I would like to see is we move through this process and we get back we get back to focusing on everything else. I don't think that this interrupts our actions as council because believe you me, the days are still very full of water and city business. So I don't perceive this as interrupting our activities, but I see what in the media. It's dominating a lot of media because this is clickbait, and it's unfortunate.
It's unfortunate that a lot of people haven't heard that this is not a witch hunt and and took it to heart. Give us the opportunity to listen to the people and put their petition forward and just hear. Just hear the facts. So, legal, I just thank you for that clarification.
Thank you. Councilwoman Campos.
Thank you, councilman Vaughan. Councilwoman Vaughan. Pro Tem, as a matter of fact, decision. And I tried to listen to my constituents, but for the most part, they stayed kind of quiet, which was a little surprising for me. I did receive, you know, just a handful of people.
But most people stayed quiet, which is a little surprising for me. Because mine are very, very, very vocal. I don't know if you all realize, but a lot of them come and make public comment here. And none of them reached out to me. I mean, it was just kind of surprising.
But on the other hand, this also brings to light that we need to change this charter. I mean, I hope, if nothing else, you know, to realize that five people can do something like this. You know, it's know, it's in the charter. And, you know, unless we change it, it's it's going to remain the same. So, we'll be able to do that.
Hopefully, we'll still I mean, I know, just like anything else, we've got problems. You know, we've got police problems. I mean, I I get calls all the time. And thankfully, I'm not getting as much as the animal care services. But things go on. This is not everything. You know, people. There's things that are still going on. Yes, we are working on the water. We are.
But we still have to work on on other issues. So, again, just be patient with us. We are following the process. And I think we're all I think if we just kind of take a step back and realize that all we're doing is just bringing it to light because it's not a guilty or an innocent. I mean, this is what we're doing. We're just bringing it back here and letting everyone see the evidence. And you'll see it as we see it. So, you know, how how more transparent is that? So that's that's all I have to say.
Thank you. Anyone else? Yeah. Councilman Scott.
Yes, ma'am. I I it's fascinating to me that, just so you know, those of us are I have received an immense amount of pressure to join the others. So the the fact that there's all this conversation about the pressures among council members would, I think we should dismiss it, and at the very most, refer it to the ethics commission. And I have received immense pressure because of that position. So it's go it's all around. I just wanna make that point out. Yes. The petition was brought to us. It does say shall. Doesn't say we have to go to a hearing.
It says we can dismiss. It says we can refer to the ethics commission. We choose to go to a hearing. I don't think that's the right answer. And I hope you think I'm pure or sincere. I'm I'm respect the body, and I'll be prepared if that's what we do. And I think that's where this is headed. But I do think the right decision was to, at at best, to go to the ethics commission. And if the ethics ethics commission were to find that there were some level of ethics violation, and I could see the council taking that and and and doing something with it. But this is going straight to the hearing.
I think this is going to be expensive. Could be wrong. I think it's gonna be prolonged. I think the sense that we're gonna do this on May 19 is is is probably not accurate. I think it will it'll go past that. And I do think it's I personally think it's a distraction from what the voters of Corpus Christi want us to do, which is go find water. And I've said this to the media often. I I do think we're doing all we can on the water deal. Although, I do think it's interesting. I got and I hope I have this right.
But I my recollection is I got one communication from the city this weekend, and it was to say that we'd hired another lawyer to help us in this process. And, you know, I'm I eventually reached out to the city manager going, hey. Can somebody give me an update? I heard it rained around Lake Texana. You know, it's kind of important. Kinda give us an update of where the water is. And I thought that was interesting to me and my little myopic view that the communication was around this issue, not the water issue. And that could have just been a bad weekend for the staff, but I did I did think that was the case. I do think the right path at this point is the ethics commission. I do think I'm an independent thinker.
I think maybe even saw that today. I I I you know, I know people think that I've actually, the the people that don't know me well think that I'm a I just follow. But those that know me think you know that I make my own decisions. And if I agree with you, then I agree with you. You know? Hey. I don't know what to tell you. If I agree with you, then I agree with you. And if you don't like it, okay. But I came to that in my own position, in my own deliberation, in my own thoughts and prayers.
That doesn't make it right instantly, as my wife would tell you often. But I do think I come up with my own position, my own decisions. And my position here this evening respectfully is to either dismiss it, and what I believe is a lack of evidence, and I know people disagree with that, or to refer it to the ethics commission. And I said earlier, I thought that that was a on this other hotel con conversations, like, there's a proper venue for this. And that venue, if someone wants to go that way, is the audit committee.
And you can be critical of the audit committee, and I'm on it. But that's the direction that that should go. And I think in this instance, you can be critical of the ethics commission process, but that's the process it should go. And I appreciate you all listening to me and and giving my thoughts, and that's all I have. Thank you, mayor pro tem.
Thank you. Anyone else? Councilman Cantu, did you wanna speak again?
Found it.
You had mentioned it? Okay. As you can see, there's many different opinions. Anyone else?
This is just on the amendment. Alright?
No. No. We've already We haven't voted on the amendment. We're getting ready to.
Okay. Because I'll speak after that.
Okay. So we have a motion and a second on the amendment. Let's submit your vote. The amendment.
It it's the amendment to add the five days prior to the nine for the pretrial hearing. All the all the materials have to be in motions, filings, and witnesses witnesses.
Five days
before the
Five days before the hearing, and it's scheduled for May 19 along with the rules. But that was the amendment to to that resolution.
Found it. Okay. Submit your vote. Okay. Pass with No. Yeah. Passed.
Amendment passed.
Then we need to approve it as amended.
Okay. Let's agree. You
wanna speak now or
after? Okay.
Before we vote.
Go ahead.
Somebody has to move. There you go. Boy, they have magic fingers. It's done.
Telling you.
Hey. I'm quick, man.
Thank you. Thank you. You know, I I just obviously, everybody knows where I stand. I I I've indicated that all the allegations are false. I think the allegations would be no different than accusing the the individual of the sun shining or the sun setting and that it costs the taxpayers too much money.
Think it's that ridiculous. And I think the condescension that comes with it is just a bunch of theater for the purpose of, you know, for politics. I I I think the question has been asked and answered. I think for anybody to come and make false allegations, you know, just for the purpose of punishing somebody politically is is ethically wrong. And and what is it?
And I think the this you know, a lot of this starts, as I've said, from a comedian hotelier that has an interest in the success or failure of a hotel walking distance from theirs. And whether he knows what whether he knows Ja Rule or not
Mhmm.
Or his name is Barney Davis. You know? And and I think it's I think it's disingenuous to try and stand to the guys. I just want to follow the system. And I think that's one of the things I've I've tried to say I've been a student of the system and just as I indicated before, there's a process.
There's a process to follow. And I think the process has been followed ad nauseam. And when the process was followed ad nauseam, then an individual filed a lawsuit. Then all of a sudden now that caused opportunity for depositions. You know, and I'm glad I challenged individuals to put my depositions online because I think what it does is it validates the fact that because I laugh, because it's comical because it's a farce.
It's a farce. It it it inspired me. It didn't almost inspires me to want to become an attorney because the bar is so low. You know? Because if you can make money just by capitalizing and trying to turn people's words, to put a city manager in a chair for six six hours, seven hours, And then to come to the point where the best that you can do is there could be an appearance that the law was broken.
And then to take that little morsel and utilize it to waste public dollars And to try and and and and humiliate a distinguished public official who I don't always agree with. Our first two years, we didn't get along. We didn't get along. You know? And, you know, and I've always said, you know what mayor?
I don't mind. I don't don't mind blocking, but I got to know the play. And, you know, the thing is is that when I'm proud of how I handle that deposition. Because I knew what the play was to humiliate. And I wasn't gonna allow it to happen to me, and I wasn't gonna allow it to happen to a distinguished public official and a distinguished public system of which has been concocted by a competing.
Hotelier. With a financial interest. With an individual. That has run for office multiple times and comes here and threats on a regular basis. And as an individual that has, I think, success behind my record, I would have to say, you know, the the Greenwood Ball Fields took eight years to get done. What is it? We helped Priscilla Al get the Ayres the Ayres project across the finish line. That was seven years after she was off the council. You know, getting Airport Road done. What is it getting to?
Fire stations put into District 3? You know, to name a few. That's that's that's work. You know what? And the mayor helped me with all of them. The mayor helped me with all of them. But yet, when a competing hotel and then the other thing is that that frustrates me is we've come to the point where we've told developers, hey, we're gonna validate those individuals that come here. So don't bother spending your money here. And we don't have water either. So you know what? We're gonna sabotage that. So, you know, I think it's wrong for us to move forward. I I I I personally think that it would do it would put us no harm until to find out what the proceedings are from the judge to table this. But I know where the votes going to go. So I'm not going to waste time with anything else. But that's my soliloquy councilman Hernandez.
Thank you. Councilman Hernandez.
Yes. Make a motion to approve as amended.
Are there any other council that wanna speak? No? Okay. We have a we have a motion and a second, and it's vote. Motion passes.
Mayor Pro Tem also like to make a motion to accept the, petitioner's articles of impeachment.
Did you
catch that? The we've received the articles of impeachment from the petitioners. This is not our document, but I think the an attorney can you please I think the city secretary said we had to accept the articles of impeachment today.
I it's an an option for you to accept them today. They could be deferred, but you can accept them
the nineteenth or we could do them today?
You can do them today. Yes, sir.
And so what does that entail? Will you explain that to the council?
Under the charter, the mayor is entitled to articles of impeachment. So at some point, if not today, then sometime they would need to be accepted or
Okay. Do we have a second? Did we have a second? We have a motion and a second. Any more comments? Okay. Submit your vote. Motion passes. Anything else? We're done.
No, ma'am.
Good job. Go
ahead. Our last item is
Okay. I'm gonna be standing in for Nick Winkelman. Not as eloquent, but if you can just bear with me on this. We're gonna try to get through this as quickly as we can. So if we can go ahead and go to the presentation.
Alright. We're gonna try to just hit the high points today on, the surface water, groundwater, and the water reuse, and where we're at on each of these topics and what has changed. So as of right now on the surface water, Lake Corpus Christi, Choke Canyon combined capacity is at 7.8%. If you go to Lake Texana, it has increased to 55. That's due to a rainfall event in their watershed where it went up from about 51 and a half percent up to that 55% number.
On groundwater, the Evangeline groundwater project. So the biggest updates on that is the preliminary hearing date set for April 28. That is going to determine whether or not, the individuals who oppose the permits have standing. We also have Pape Dawson who has completed the 60% design deliverables for that project. The other items are, standard.
The Garney construction have mobilized trailers to the site, and the first round of the HDPE pipe has been delivered to the site as well. Moving on to the Nueces groundwater project. The Eastern Well Field for the last seven days has averaged around 3,600,000 gallons a day. On the Western Well Field, we have approximately by the end of the week, we're going to have seven wells running, each one producing around 2,000,000 gallons each for a total of 14 MGD. The full well field is still expected to be in operation by the May.
So the the well fields out there, also, we have the Aquila contract that was issued to proceed on April 13. What that means is they have eleven months to from that date to deliver the water of the 3,900,000 gallons a day with the equipment delivered on From there, they have fourteen months to get to the 9,240,000 then 18,000,000 and so on for the remainder of the 21,300,000.0 total on that project. Wastewater reuse. So wastewater reuse, we continue to work with Valero and Flint Hills Resources on their projects. They're both coming along quickly.
Valero is expected to finish their project, their pipeline in the connection to Greenwood by the end of this year. They're hoping for it to move more quickly than that. But as of right now, that's their scheduled date. Flint Hills is also moving very quickly on their project. We've been working with them on design and the connection points at the Allison wastewater treatment facility.
We're looking at an August time frame for them to start taking water from Allison. The Ardura project with the pipeline from Oso to Greenwood, we have issued a RFQ for a CMAR contractor that was issued last Monday. It is supposed to be all the submittals or or submissions are supposed to be to the city by April 24. At that time, we'll go through the submissions, determine the the most qualified individuals, and then bring those or bring the the winner to council for a vote. If there's I mean, that's a quick overview.
I'm here for any questions that you may have on any of the projects.
Councilman Hernandez.
Okay. One one you'd mentioned construction manager at risk contract to come due April 24, come to council May. What we're
shooting for. Yes, sir.
Okay. What is the expected expected time for that to be completed to have a pipeline from Oso to, Greenwood?
Oso to Greenwood, we were looking at May.
May 27?
Yes. If everything lines up accordingly.
And then you said at the end of this year for Valero to complete their connection
That is their schedule at this point. They're still working on land acquisition. A big portion of their timeline is land acquisition. As long as they can work through those details, that's
Is there
a greater distance for them or for us? What's what's the difference?
Our pipeline is around 15 mile they're almost they're fairly close to the same distance.
They're able to get theirs done by the end of this year, and we're gonna take an extra several months for the same distance?
They're getting theirs done because they're already ordering materials. They're already fully designed almost on this project, and they're able to already have their contractors lined up. The CMAR will allow us to speed that process, and that's one reason we're doing it so that we can try to keep up with that.
What you're telling me is the private sector can move faster than the government sector? That's what you're telling me?
Not always. Because we're moving faster on the well fields. I can say my I'm
just going by what you're telling me in terms of timeline.
Nick, does it include the tanks and all that stuff?
No. The project does not include the ground storage tank.
So we have to do extensive ground storage tanks and pumps, and it's really not just pipe to pipe. Right? Just Explain it to the council, the difference.
Right. So it's gonna be just the pumps, the pump station, and a connection from Alice from Greenwood to their plant. The ground storage tank system, the 10,000,000 gallon storage tank will be around May timeframe.
Are we building that or
are they building that? They are building that. But there are delays in that just because of the nature of the project. You don't have as many tank contractors around The US, so even they have issues getting them quickly. They're on projects everywhere, so it's harder
for them.
Okay. So they have a bunch of tanks where they're at. So I'm assuming this is going to be ground This is ground storage. Yes. Okay.
It's gonna hold the ground storage tank at Greenwood is being constructed to help moderate the flows from Oso and Greenwood with all the different users. So you have plenty of reserve on hand. In case something happens at one of the plants, we have about a day's worth of reserve.
Okay. You had mentioned, Evangeline, we talked about the time line in terms with the administrative hearing.
Is that
for that's for April 28?
Is that correct? Tuesdays from
now. Correct, councilman.
Okay. And who's gonna be attending that?
Our the lawyer for the seller, and we'll be here at city council, but I think it's at least the lawyer from the from the seller from the Evangeline Laguna, and maybe Ryan might be going. We won't be presenting.
And it'll be in Austin. Correct?
No. It's it's gonna be virtual.
It's all virtual?
As of right now, it's still just virtual. There may be a in person location. The team will assemble here. So if anybody wants to go to whatever room we select, you're more than welcome to do that. Meeting's open to the public.
It's What have we what have we already prepositioned with regards to that? I know we had some piping come in for it. And what else have we acquired for that project?
The As far as I know, the pipe, I don't want to I would have to get more information if anything else has been ordered on the long lead items. I know the pipes have. They've been looking at the pumps. I don't know if the pumps have been ordered yet, but I would have to find out.
Piping for sure has been ordered. We just authorized a second manufacturer in Texas to construct some of the pipe as well that was coming from South I
know we're waiting on the hearing, but have we identified the well locations?
We have the well locations identified. We just need the permits.
Have we secured the contractor for drilling the wells?
Yes. We have.
Yes. Okay. Is it more than one contractor or just one?
That I
think they might have two, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. Two different ones. Right? But yeah. We'll we'll confirm that, but I thought there was two.
We're fully designed for injection into Merritt Road's pipeline?
No. We're at 60%.
60%? 60? Expect completion? 60? Yes. When do you expect completion in the design?
The timeline? I don't have that, sir. I'm sorry.
Okay. Thank you.
Councilman Campos. Thank you, mayor.
On the wastewater reuse projects, the 16 MGD, is that the most that we can expect from wastewater reuse?
At this moment, yes. The 16 MGD, but that is coming out of Greenwood. You can factor in that'll be the Greenwood and Oso combined. You can also look at what we're doing with Flint Hills from the Allison plant as separate. And if we can work deals with some of the other refineries around the Sitco area, around the Broadway plant, there's about another three to four MGD there as well.
West, part of the reason is we're already using some of that on golf courses, parks, Texas A and M, what they're basically doing.
After these two projects, we're probably gonna be tapped out?
That is correct, yes. We'll be utilizing almost all of our Wastewater. Wastewater. Even now, and this is something relatively new, we've been contacted by NAS to be able to look at some of the effluent from Laguna as well. They're already taking, but to see if they would be able to utilize it in other ways.
We're also calculating some to still be discharged into the bay Systems, also by the university. So there's still a level that would be put in consciously to try to maintain some environmental standard there.
Okay. All right. Thank you.
Yes, ma'am.
I think that's all the the comments excuse me, comments and questions.
Okay.
So thank you. Thank you, Wes, for the presentation. Okay. There being no further business, this meeting is now adjourned.
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