City Council - Regular Meeting

Thursday, August 13, 2026

The City Council recognized Roman Butzloff Day and honored Michelle Hunt's retirement. Key decisions included approving a $10.2 million installment financing for a new emergency operations facility and ordering the demolition of a dilapidated structure at 426 Lincoln Street after extensive discussion.

About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Concord, NC
Meeting Date
August 13, 2026

Transcript

190 sections

3:46 – 4:01Speaker 6

I would like to call to order the August 13th, 2026 Concord City Council meeting. Welcome everyone. If you would please stand and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance followed by a moment of silence.

4:03Speaker 12

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands,

4:16 – 5:33Speaker 6

Thank you. Okay, council members, you have copies of the minutes from July 7th, July 9th, and July 21st. Do I hear of any corrections or a motion to approve? Motion to approve, Mayor. I'll second that, Mayor. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. All opposed, no. Aye. That motion passes and we move next to presentations. We are honored to have a very special guest with us tonight and that is Roman Butzloff and we have a video that we're gonna show before we do a presentation.

8:46 – 9:02Speaker 25

All your neighbors with you too.

9:07 – 12:22Speaker 6

How are you? Good. Well, we all know that Concord is a wonderful place to live. for a lot of different reasons. And this is yet another one. And because of Roman's actions, let's step over here so the photographer can see us. People all over the United States and all over the world know about that. And if you'll just Google his name, that video will come up and I think 25 others. Yeah, so you have really put Concord on the map. And the only thing that wasn't 100% positive about that video was we need to tell him how to pronounce Concord. Yes, yeah. But we have a proclamation for you, and I want to read that now. This is a proclamation from the office of the mayor. whereas four-year-old Roman Butzloff has demonstrated that kindness, friendship, and a simple wave can have an impact on an entire neighborhood And whereas after Roman's parents separated and his grandparents live in another state, he began waving to his neighbors each day, creating connections that soon grew into meaningful friendships. And whereas inspired by Roman's warm and welcoming spirit, neighbors began attending his soccer, basketball, and baseball games, preschool open house, swim lessons, becoming an extended family of support, and whereas Roman's birthday party was filled with the neighbors whose lives he had touched, demonstrating that community is built through genuine relationships rather than proximity alone. And whereas through his joyful personality and welcoming heart, Roman introduced neighbors to one another who otherwise may have never met, strengthening the bonds within the neighborhood and reminding everyone that friendship often begins with the smallest gesture. And whereas Roman's example has inspired adults and children alike, to be more connected, compassionate, and engaged with one another, proving that age is no barrier to making a lasting difference in the lives of others. Now therefore, on behalf of the Concord City Council, I, Stephen M. Morris, Mayor of the City of Concord, do hereby recognize August 13th, 2026 as Roman Butzloff Day. So today is your day. Congratulations. Is there anything you would like to say? Okay. You've got the microphone.

12:37 – 14:28Speaker 6

Great, well, we want to thank you for bringing such a positive light on the city of Concord. And I'll give you this and hopefully you can hang that in your room. And in addition to that, Councilwoman Clay, I think came to visit you and she was talking about your bicycle. So she purchased a gift for you on behalf of city council that we want you to take And it is, as a matter of fact, I'll pull it out and show it to you since you got your hands full. A bell for your bicycle that lights up. Yeah. You're welcome. I hope you will enjoy that. Thank you very much. And we appreciate you being here tonight. And here, you can take the bag if you want to keep it in your bag to go. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you all. Thank you for being here. Okay, next item up is presentation of a retirement plaque to Michelle Hunt. Michelle, if you would come forward along with some of our transportation staff. And anybody else that you would like to join us as well.

14:49 – 15:31Speaker 17

she was having with her compadre in customer service, I realized that I had worked longer with Michelle than any other employee in my career, just like she was talking about with her peer in customer service. So it's a big moment for us as a department, and many departments have retirements all the time, and this being our first one and to have our first 10-year-plus employee leaving us and hopefully going on to enjoy the fruits of a life of labor and now being able to enjoy family and friends and grandkids. and just wanted to extend my thanks, and Andy's been her immediate supervisor for the last half dozen years or so, so we just both wanted to say a little something before you did your presentation. Excellent.

15:31 – 16:51Speaker 7

Thank you, Mayor, members of council. I appreciate the opportunity. Didn't want to let Michelle go without saying a few words. I've been Michelle's supervisor for the past few years, but more importantly to me, I've been a co-worker. She's been a co-worker to me for almost 12 years now, and I think you, Michelle, have taught me more than you realize. You were here day one when I walked into transit not knowing a ton about transit, and you've really taught me a lot. Michelle, the one thing I want to say about Michelle is she just carries herself with such grace and a level of tact that I don't think a lot of people possess. She has interacted with thousands upon thousands of customers at the transit center over her 13 years. And never one time in those 13 years have I seen her get upset or get agitated or get frustrated or even raise her voice at a customer, even though we have some customers who can bring the heat to our customer service staff. So I just wanted to say that. And I said the other day that we're in the process right now of filling Michelle's position, but we will never be able to replace Michelle. So I hate to see you go, but I'm so happy for you. Our whole staff will miss you, and I know all of our customers will miss you as well. So thank you very much.

17:00 – 19:51Speaker 6

I'm gonna repeat a little bit of what they just said, but for over 13 years of service to the city of Concord, Michelle Hunt retired August 1st, 2026 from her position at Rider Transit as the senior customer service representative. In 2007, Michelle and her family relocated from Washington, D.C., where she had a 20-year career with the federal government, including 10 years with the Drug Enforcement Administration. That may be where she learned some patience. in that area, but after moving to Concord, she pursued her passion for creativity by starting a home staging and interior design business. Following the housing market downfall, she came to the city's transit department. She joined Rider Transit in November of 2012, and except for the transit director, was the longest tenured employee within the department. As the first point of contact for many transit customers, Michelle has served as the Rider Transit Center with a professional level of tact and consistently calm demeanor, despite being often faced with customers who can be frustrated and in a hurry to get to their destination. She is well known and appreciated by many long time customers and community members. Being only one of two customer service employees on the transit staff, she has often been relied upon to heavily cover extra hours behind the customer through COVID, continuing to greet and assist and reassure customers at the Rider Transit Center during that incredibly challenging and stressful time. In addition to her daily duties at the office, especially around the holidays, she expressed her love of decorating and design. Each December, the Transit Center She created festive Christmas themes that brought joy to coworkers and visitors. As Michelle begins her retirement, she looks forward to spending more time with family and embracing new adventures. Congratulations. And we have this plaque for you presented to Michelle Hunt in recognition of over 13 years of faithful, loyal, and dedicated service to the City of Concord Transit Department. Yeah, congratulations. And please, we'd love to hear some words from you.

19:55 – 20:12Speaker 28

Thank you. I'm looking forward to retiring. I will miss working for the city. My retirement has already started. I've been out of town for a couple of weeks, and I'll be leaving tomorrow to go on a cruise.

20:12 – 20:26Speaker 6

Congratulations. Life part two begins. Right. Yeah. That would be wonderful. Yeah, please ask your family members to come up and join you.

20:27 – 20:40Speaker 28

My husband, my mother, my oldest daughter, my granddaughter, my middle daughter, my son and his wife, and my grandson are here with me.

20:45 – 21:10Speaker 6

Wonderful. And LJ can get a picture for us. How are you? Okay. Great. Congratulations.

21:43 – 21:59Speaker 6

And our next item, our recognition of the finance department, we did on Tuesday. So we will now move to departmental reports. And Jay Rowe has a report on our parks and recreation bond update. Welcome, sir.

22:01 – 25:48Speaker 9

Good evening, Mayor, members of council, Mr. Blackburn, Mr. T, and Ms. Jenkins. I'm happy to give the August update for our council projects for our bond projects for this month. Starting off with the financial slide, the only changes from last month are the investment earnings, which was an increase of $64,118, that you'll see on the third line there from July. And we'll continue to show this update as we have other projects coming to completion and going out to bid. For our current projects under construction, first one, this is nearing completion. We just had our final punch list walkthrough last week. As you'll see, the top right, that's our new storage building and restroom building that is complete. They installed all of the natural grass behind the dugouts, as well as all the concrete behind the dugouts as well. And we are getting ready for our ribbon cutting ceremony that'll take place end of this month. for JE Jim Ramseur Park. Construction continues here. You'll see the top left is a additional boardwalk that was installed recently. The top right is our playground, or one of the playgrounds that's being prepped right now, as well as the bottom right, there's gonna be multiple playgrounds near each other that will connect. And then we have some improvements to both the parking lot you'll see there, and then they started the prep work for the pickleball courts, as well as the shelter footings are scheduled to go in soon. And this is still on schedule to open up next summer. And then finally, we just had our groundbreaking mid-July for David Phillips Park. So the only progress so far is just some clearing and some grubbing that's taken place. We'll continue to show progress as we see more pictures for David Phillips, but it's starting to make some progress. We had some weather delays so far from the rain that we've had this month, but we'll continue to show the progress. And then for our next projects coming up, we are excited to say that the Academy Escape Park pump track sculpture garden went out to bid last week. So that is out there right now. The pre-bid meeting is scheduled for August 27th, and the final bids are going to be read on September 17th. NEXT PROJECT AFTER THAT WOULD BE HARTZELL PARK. THE PLAN WAS TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET ALL OF THE FIELDS READY AND OPEN FOR WEBB, MCALISTER AND GIBSON. SO NOW THAT THOSE ARE COMING BACK OPEN, WE'LL PLAN TO TAKE THIS OUT TO BID IN THE LATE FALL OR EARLY WINTER. SO WE'LL GIVE YOU PROJECT UPDATES WHEN THAT COMES TO The next project that's in design is our Poplar Tent Trailhead Park that we're working on internally with engineering. Not much update for this for right now. We'll continue to just work on the connection points with Duke Energy and the Carolina International School, as well as the internal working for Wilson Street Park that we plan to do more working in actually breaking ground next summer on for that one. Next project is seeking approval for the next phase of WW Flow, which was presented on Tuesday. So any other questions that you might have for that we can discuss later, but that was presented. And then there's no updates right now for the Academy Recreation Center as we're gonna start working on the RFP that will go out sometime in 2027 for that project. And I'm excited to share there's a third picture. We have not had three yet. This is the first time we'll have Caldwell Park shown as a completed project. I will also just add the response from the community has been phenomenal. The numbers have been great. People are absolutely loving Caldwell Park. We're averaging close to 400 people a day as we track the numbers of everyone coming to the park. And in the first two weeks it was open in July, we had over 6,200 people visit the park. Just absolutely loving the splash pad. Obviously has been the main attraction with the hot weather, but everything else, there's people playing basketball in the shade, which is really enjoyable for everyone. The playground's been great, shelters. Just really, really getting a positive response from Caldwell Park. And then nothing for the timelines have changed, but as they do have updates, we'll continue to make sure we keep you in the loop. And I'll be happy to answer any questions.

25:51 – 27:06Speaker 6

Questions for Jay. Alright, thank you very much. Thank you. Okay, next up on the agenda is public comment, persons requesting to be heard. So I'll read our rules on that. This portion of our meeting is our time to recognize persons requesting to be heard and provides an opportunity for anyone wishing to address the city council to do so. Each person will receive three minutes to address the council. There'll be a countdown clock on the screen. This is a time of listening for the council. The subject will be noted, and if it requires action or a request, the city manager will note as such and provide steps for any required response or after action. And I think everyone that has signed up has left their contact information with the city clerk so we know how to get back in touch with you. And so the first step Speaker is Margaret Puckett from Toll Brothers. Welcome.

27:07 – 30:06Speaker 23

Thank you. Good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of council. My name is Margaret Puckett. I'm here on behalf of Toll Brothers to respectfully request sewer allocation for 138 single-family homes for our proposed Condor Estates community located at 4460 Weddington Road. I know that council has a difficult job when it comes to sewer allocation. There is more demand than available capacity, so I think the important question is not simply whether a project needs sewer. and is what is the city going to get in return for allocating that capacity? We believe at Toll Brothers that our Condor Estates project presents a very compelling case. The property consists of 75 acres on Weddington Road, immediately adjacent to West Cabarrus High School, and it's surrounded by largely existing residential communities and more Cabarrus County schools across Weddington Road. One of the most important things that I'd like council to understand tonight is that or I should say what otherwise could happen with this property. The property is already zoned RV and has significant buy right development potential. In fact, a previous plan that was contemplated had 343 homes, 243 townhomes and 95 singles. Our proposal is half of that density. We plan to propose 138 single family detached homes across 75 acres roughly 1.8 homes per acre. So rather than maximizing the density that the existing zoning would allow, we're intentionally proposing much lower density in a community that we believe would be more compatible with the surrounding area. We're also committed to making significant investments outside of the homes themselves. Along Weddington Road, our plan includes two left turn lanes in addition to two right turn lanes associated with our project entrances. We believe those improvements will help traffic created by our community, but also improving the roadway infrastructure in this area. We're focused on connectivity to the schools that surround this property. Our plan proposes walking trails to the existing West Cabarrus High School, but we've also introduced the idea of partnering with Cabarrus County Schools to install additional sidewalk that would allow pedestrian access to the elementary school in addition to the middle school. But beyond the numbers and the infrastructure, I think it's also important to understand what Toll Brothers intends to build here. We're not proposing a high density community. We are a luxury home builder, we operate in 60 markets across the country, but we are or excuse me, the homes that we're proposing at Condor Estates will reflect the architecture, materials, interior design, outdoor living, and overall community appearance that you've seen in my packet that I have presented. Our objective would be to create a community that adds lasting value to the city of Concord. Similar to Roman's story, we hope to build those communities to have families enjoy what we have to offer in this wonderful city. Thank you for your time.

30:07Speaker 6

Thank you. Okay, our next speaker is Zach Allman.

30:19Speaker 19

Good evening, Mayor and Council.

30:20 – 31:46Speaker 12

Appreciate y'all having me today. I'm here on behalf of McIntosh Law Firm and Bob Bennett and Stanley Martin and his development, Roycecroft. I'm here today on behalf of Larry Shaheen also. I know Larry typically addresses this group. Larry is currently in Iceland and kind of wish I was enjoying that weather too right now. But appreciate y'all's time. Here on behalf of Bob Bennett, Bob is a good builder. He's proposing 50 new lots at his current development called Royscroft. Bob builds at a level that is a net positive to the tax base. Not all developments that come in are net positive to the tax base after they come and utilize the services of water, sewer, police, fire, schools, you name it. Bob builds at a price point that is favorable to the tax base. I think that's a really good point. All of what he's asking for is 50 new lots. His development is already under development. So what he's asking for an additional 50 lots to what's already being done. So Bob, he's always been a good partner to Concord. And I know the board has seen Bob and has this in front. I know you guys have this in front of you all now. with his proposed addition. So really appreciate y'all's consideration at the next allotment for sewer, and if there's anything that we can do as far as answering questions or addressing any concerns, feel free to reach out to me, to Bob, I know he's spoken with many of y'all, and Larry also. So wanna respect y'all's time and appreciate y'all having me tonight. Thank you. Thank you.

31:46Speaker 6

Okay, our next speaker is Dan Galtieri.

32:01 – 35:21Speaker 14

GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, OR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MY NAME IS DAN GUALTIERI AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF CRESCENT COMMUNITIES. CRESCENT IS A CHARLOTTE BASED DEVELOPER WITH DEEP ROOTS IN THIS REGION. WE'VE DEVELOPED MORE THAN 20 MULTI-FAMILY COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE CHARLOTTE AREA, INCLUDING BEXLEY VILLAGE RIGHT HERE IN CONCORD AT CONCORD MILLS. OUR NOVEL COMMUNITIES ARE BUILT TO A HIGH STANDARD AND BACKED BY PROFESSIONAL ON-SITE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. Our novel Weddington Ridge project sits in a proven corridor minutes from Concord Mills surrounded by established retail and dining and adjacent to the Rocky River Golf Club. This is exactly where new housing belongs. I am pleased to report that phase one and two of our novel Weddington Ridge project is under construction now. As you can see, this is an active project delivering real progress on the ground right now. And this is both phase one and two under construction right now on Weddington Road. Zooming out a little bit to our site plan. In total, the project includes 297 apartments. Phase one, 132 of the apartments is served with public sewer capacity that was secured back in 2020. Phase two, the remaining 165 apartments do not have public sewer capacity yet. And tonight's request is an allocation of 16,875 gallons per day for those in phase two. And just backing up too on a timeline of this project, we've been a patient and persistent partner. Phase one, like I had said, was secured back in 2020. Then the sewer allocation policy was adopted in 2022, and we have applied every single quarter since then for sewer capacity for our phase two of this project. And now with construction underway in both phases, a decision is needed in order to proceed with our phase two of the project. This is our master site plan. And just noting that what's at stake now is without public capacity, phase two has to be served with a private sewer system, which is fully designed and approved. That private sewer system is gonna be located on the phase three land, which is currently entitled for townhomes. And we are ready to proceed with the construction of that. The land that, as I'd mentioned, the land that the phase three includes is planned for 137 town homes. The private sewer system that is planned for that land includes over 30,000 linear feet of drip tubing that'll crisscross that land. So here we are kind of at a crossroads. On the current path, we continue and spend $2 million constructing this private sewer system and encumbering that phase three land kind of indefinitely for future townhome development. Alternatively, we pay the estimated $400,000 that would be paid to the City of Concord as well as WSAC for connection fees for the phase two of our project. and then that would leave that land open for future development on the Phase 3 land. I'll just close here quick. Looks like my time is up. Thank you.

35:23Speaker 6

Okay, our next speaker is Ryan Kinney.

35:37 – 37:33Speaker 5

Welcome. Good evening, Mayor, city council members. My name is Ryan Kenney. I'm with New Branch Real Estate Advisors and I represent the sellers of the approximately 75 acres off of Weddington Road, 4460 Weddington Road. I've already spoken to most of you and if I haven't, I welcome the opportunity to discuss. As you already know, the traditional way to sell a property is to put it on the market, find a buyer, and then approach the city for sewer allocation and for permitting. For this property, we intentionally took a different approach. Before going to the market, we met with city council members to better understand the city's priorities so we could align them with the outcome and the needs of Concord. From those discussions, we learned that low-density, executive-level housing was a need, so we intentionally sought out builders capable of delivering that quality, which led us to Toll Brothers. This property is currently zoned for eight units per acre or roughly 600 homes. Based on our discussions with City Council, we knew that lower density was important, so Toll Brothers listened to that direction and the proposal before you tonight is only for 137 executive level single family homes. As the process stands today, City Council must approve the sewer allocation. If that process were to ever return to a first come, first serve basis, this property could see a much higher density. We believe 137 homes provides Concord with a higher quality and more thoughtful approach to development. As a resident of Concord and one that lives less than one mile from this property off of Weddington Road, I drive past this property at least once a day and have a vested interest in the outcome that extends beyond my role as the owner's representative. I truly believe this will be a high quality addition to Concord and something that the community will be proud of. Thank you so much for your time.

37:33 – 37:47Speaker 6

Thank you. Okay, our next speaker is Keisha Sandage. Welcome.

37:47 – 41:01Speaker 1

Hey, how y'all doing? I know I can be a bit critical of our elected officials sometimes, but I'm here today with great news and I want to thank you all for your responses to policy 510. I've come several times and I've talked to you. I've received a response from all the council members on two things that I've sent to you and I'll get ready to talk about the second one in a minute. the only person I have not received a response from is you, Mr. Sweat. It would be helpful to respond to people who are your constituents or not, but that live in the city that you are an elected official for. So the thing I came to talk to you guys tonight about was the second topic that I sent you. And if you remember a few months ago, Ashley Shanley came to you all and talked about youth violence in our community. and how it's on the rise. So I sent you all an email. I sent it to most of our elected bodies across the county, except for the Kannapolis City School System, and I do plan to send it to them and their superintendent. that kind of broke down a potential for our county, each municipality, to offer either unpaid or paid internships for our youth as a way to maybe mitigate some of the time that they have on their hand to kind of get in trouble, which is what I feel we are seeing. I got responses back most talked about there is a youth council I am talking about something completely different we've got to put our kids to work at the tender age of 13 14 every summer I had a summer job at my school I got paid for it I learned how to pay bills with my parents and help them pay bills and put groceries in the refrigerator and in the cabinets and because of that it made me not want to join gangs in California. It made me want to understand what it looks like to be a responsible human being and a responsible citizen. I do know, and I believe you had some, Mayor, you had some dealings with getting this started. The Cabarrus Summit meets quarterly and you guys meet as municipalities, and I believe the school board is involved now, I think this is an opportunity for you all to get together and talk about what this looks like for our county, what this looks like for each municipality and how It can allow for us to do something different and better for our youth. Councilwoman Santana, I appreciate you doing a lot of research and looking at other programs, other cities. I appreciate that and that response. Maybe that's a discussion to have with your colleagues. Lastly, I want to say I have received information back from DA Shanley about her internship program. I'm waiting on information back from the county because they have one as well. I do plan to put a report together and put that out to you all so that you guys can really start talking about what this looks like and what's already out there so that we can truly address youth violence in Cabarrus. Thank you. Thank you.

41:02Speaker 6

Okay, our next speaker is Charles Patel.

41:14Speaker 18

Good evening, Officer of the Concord.

41:18 – 44:16Speaker 22

I have a property here on Lincoln Street right by the new project going on on the Greenway. I bought it about seven years ago, and then I had a mom pass away in California, and she was in a care house, so I had to go there for a while. And then COVID hit, and I couldn't open the laundromat. It's a laundromat and there's an old building next to it. And the old building in the city is forcing to demolish it. And last year they sent me preserving the building. And now they say you have to demolish the building. There's a greenway next to it going through it. And then after that, Greenway started, they start building the bridge over there, so they closed down the Lincoln Street for almost three years, and now they just opened it, and I'm keep getting a notice from the court enforcement people that you have to take the building demolish, you have to empty the building out. I say I need to sell the building, I put it on a market, I need some time, but they are not agreeing anything to it. I don't know why. Any buyer goes to the city zoning department or department, and they turn them down. They say, we don't give you any information about the property. You have to contact the seller. So I don't know what to do anymore. Yeah, I just got the text message from court enforcement today. They say you have to take all the stuff out of the old building because we are demolishing it. It's eyesoreing. And only question I have before seven years, why wasn't this property wasn't eyesoreing at that time? That was my question. You know why it's now it's eyesore-ing and it's right next to the Greenway and they wants to clean the area. I say I'm agreed to it. I have no more energy to do it. I have, you know, pre-stage of Alzheimer, I cannot do anything other stuff. So I have to sell the property. I put the sign over there, and I'm getting Mr. John Watson sending me message that you have to get it out of there and clean the building. So I don't know what I expect from the city now, you know.

44:23Speaker 6

Okay, our next speaker is Sarah Beeson.

44:34 – 47:37Speaker 2

Good evening council members thank you for hearing us tonight my name is Sarah Beeson I'm with Alexander Ricks and I'm here on behalf of Johnson Development Associates in connection with their preliminary sewer allocation application it came through in the last cycle in June so that might not be an unfamiliar name they are looking at one of the last industrial sites in the International Business Park and they have been working very closely with Gretchen and Samantha at Cabarrus EDC as well as with the City of Concord to work through this process and They've gone through the initial request was for 4,000 gallons per day last time. Looking back at the space, which is a less than 75,000 square foot industrial build, they've gone through and pulled that down to about 2,000, 2,600, sorry, gallons per day for the new submission for this next cycle. And so we do want to reiterate this is going to, it will require rezoning that is part of the application package, including the site plan and the elevations. THAT IS SHOWING THE HIGH QUALITY CALIBER OF THE BUILDING AND THE TARGETED FOCUS THAT THEY ARE HAVING WITH RESEARCH, MANUFACTURING, DEVELOPMENT, WAREHOUSING AND OTHER USES IN THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL CATEGORY. The kind of proponent of the speculative build is that it will attract some of these other employers and prospective new employers to the area that potentially can't accommodate a longer build to suite or other timelines in that process. And so they have been working with EDC, trying to attract those and working through this project. Nolan Group, as you know, who has been working with that build out of the industrial park is very supportive of JDA in this request. And a letter from that owner is included within the application to state their support. to request your support for that request as well to help them close out a project that they've developed for decades. There are currently over 30 companies in that park and they have made significant contributions to the tax base and job growth in the area. And JDA hopes to come in and partner with the city, with the rest of the business group and continue on the success that has already been had with the product that y'all have enabled to come to the city. If the allocations go through the timing is really hopefully to start construction next year and have a build out if possible by 2028. We do believe this aligns with the land use plan focusing on high quality products along this industrial corridor as well as focusing on business expansion and job growth. As you can see on the site plan that's included, there is a 50-foot class B buffer that's being provided. The orientation of that building is with rear docks facing away from International Drive and providing dual access coming in and out of that site. So we really do believe this is a highly attractive product with a lot of potential to help close out the International Business Park. And so we respectfully request your support, and we look forward to coming in in September and continuing to reach out for individual one-on-one meetings as you have availability. So please contact myself or Austin Boyd, who's been most of the direct contact from Johnson Development Group, and we look forward to speaking with you. Thank you for your support and consideration.

47:38 – 48:59Speaker 6

Thank you. And that concludes all persons that have signed up for public comment tonight. So we now will move into our public hearings. First up, number one is conduct a public hearing to consider adopting a resolution authorizing the negotiation of an installment financing contract. Jessica talked with us about this on Tuesday. Does anybody have any additional questions on that before we open the public hearing? Okay, that being said, I will open the public hearing on this item. We do not have anyone that has signed up to speak, so if there's anybody that failed to have an opportunity and you would like to speak on this matter, you may come to the podium at this time. Seeing no one, I'll close the public hearing. And council, the recommendation from staff is a motion to approve a resolution authorizing the negotiation of an installment financing contract in the amount of $10,200,000. Do I hear such a motion?

48:59Speaker 18

May I move we approve the resolution?

49:01Speaker 9

I'll second that.

49:04 – 50:33Speaker 6

Okay, we have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion? hearing none all in favor please say aye all opposed no that motion passes unanimously and we move to item two this is to conduct a public hearing to consider adopting an ordinance amending various articles article one through four six through 14 of the Concord Development Ordinance to address board and commission structure and duties, address signs in the Center City Zoning District, and further provide clarity, increase user efficiency, and comply with the North Carolina General Statutes. And Autumn talked with us about this on Tuesday. I think Kevin is available to answer any questions if anybody has anything additional. Kevin, is there anything else you think we need to know? So at this time, I'll open the public hearing. Once again, we did not have anyone to sign up to speak, but if anyone has any input on this proposal, now is your time. It is about the sign ordinance, yes. Yes, sir.

50:35 – 51:13Speaker 20

I own on-site computer service. I've had the store there for 16 years. And just a couple weeks ago, I'd put a digital sign up. Because I got my sign permit 16 years ago. I didn't think there was a law or a rule about putting a digital sign up. And it's 2026. I put it up. Three days later, I got a letter or some envelope sticking to my door that you're not allowed to have digital signs in downtown Concord, which is a historic district. And I can understand that. But I mean, it's 2026. I don't know how long ago that was written. But I mean, I even told the guy, I said, I'll put, welcome to historic downtown Concord. I mean, I could do anything with that sign. It plays videos. And I just want you to reconsider that ordinance or whatever.

51:14 – 51:37Speaker 6

Great. All right. Thank you. And Kevin, if you want to address that specifically, there is some wording in here about electronic signs, but I think that only applies to public art facilities, you know the wording certainly better than I.

51:38Speaker 21

Correct, yes sir, the electronic message board is only allowed in certain quasi-public uses in downtown.

51:46 – 52:02Speaker 6

Right, and I asked that question on Tuesday night, thinking specifically about your situation, and the answer that I received was that the library and the Arts Council were the only two institutions that qualified, is that correct?

52:02Speaker 21

Correct, under this revision, yes sir.

52:05Speaker 6

And so nowhere else in the Central Business District is that?

52:11Speaker 21

And this is an electronic message board with movable. Right, okay.

52:19 – 53:09Speaker 6

Anything else you wanna add? Okay, all righty, thank you. Is there anybody else that wishes to speak in the public hearing? If not, we'll close the public hearing. Council members, the recommendation on this one is a motion to adopt an ordinance amending various articles, articles one through four and six through 14 of the Concord Development Ordinance to address board and commission structure and duties, address signs in the Center City Zoning District, and further provide clarity, increase user efficiency, and comply with the North Carolina General Statutes. Do I hear such a motion?

53:10 – 53:37Speaker 8

I have a question first, sir. Kevin, could you clarify, just so I know, what the ordinance may have said about digital signs previously? Was there some ambiguity there that maybe caused Greg to think that it was okay to have that sign, and are we now changing that to where it's... No, ma'am, we're talking about a digital message board with movable...

53:46 – 54:20Speaker 21

But it's a digital sign with movable message? Okay, okay. No, they have never been permissible in Center City. Whatsoever, any message boards. This would be the only exception would be the We can definitely look into that. I do not know if that corner is zoned center city. I'm not certain.

54:23 – 54:50Speaker 8

Well, I appreciate the answer. I was just curious if there was some ambiguity there or something that wasn't clear about that that would have led you to think that that was okay. I just wanted to be sure that that was not something that we had misled from our part on the city. or that it was a change to where it was allowed at one point in time or wasn't clear, and now we've changed our position. Thank you.

54:51 – 55:11Speaker 6

Yeah, for the sake of clarity, for those that did not hear the discussion on Tuesday night, I think primarily the issues regarding signs that we discussed in this relate to the calculation of coverage on window signs was the primary item, right?

55:12 – 55:23Speaker 21

Correct. Additionally, there were, we've talked about the exceptions for the The public and civic uses for the digital ground-mounted message board.

55:23Speaker 6

Right, so those two comprised.

55:27 – 56:06Speaker 21

We've allowed an additional projecting sign per building entrance. They're now based on building entrances as opposed to building walls. The calculation, as you mentioned, we've also instituted, as opposed to 20% on a window sign, we're allowing up to 30%, as opposed to calculating a Rectangle, we're allowing a polygon, so that allows a little more flexibility with the design, and we've instituted transparency requirements to where You can't block your complete window and not be able to see it. Those are the major things. Great. Thank you.

56:06Speaker 18

Anybody else have anything? I just want to be clear on what Lori is actually saying. So digital signings was never permitted, am I right? Okay.

56:14 – 56:26Speaker 3

I think the question I'm asking, too, there's nothing that we're changing tonight that unfortunately would have changed this gentleman's outcome from that perspective. I think that's ultimately the question that everybody's looking to answer, and I think that's what he said. Thank you.

56:29Speaker 6

Okay, any other questions? Okay, I do still have a need for a motion. Yeah.

56:36Speaker 11

Do we have the statement of reasonableness and consistency? Oh. So this is one of the two. Gotcha. This is one of the two-step processes. Right. So the first would be to adopt the statement of reasonableness and consistency

56:48 – 57:04Speaker 6

And then we'd move on to the motion for the text amendment. Okay. Council members, you see the two choices on the screen. Do I hear a motion to adopt or approve one or the other? May I move we approve the two bullets in blue?

57:04Speaker 18

I think that's blue in color, am I correct?

57:09 – 57:25Speaker 6

All right, we have a motion and a second to approve the statement of reasonableness and consistency. Is there any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. All opposed, no. That motion passes.

57:26Speaker 11

And then the second step would be a motion to approve or to deny the text amendment.

57:31 – 1:03:20Speaker 6

Great, thank you. Okay, we have a motion to approve and a second. Is there any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. All opposed, no. That motion passes. Okay, and then... All right, and then the next item three, and that was for the zoning map amendment for property at Palisade Drive. We have a request from the owner for that matter to be tabled to our September meeting, so I would entertain a motion to table this item until September. Have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. All opposed, no. That motion passes. Next up is presentation of petitions and requests. Item one on your agenda has been withdrawn. So we will move to item two, and that's consider authorizing the city manager to execute change order number three for the North Apron Roadway project at Concord Pageant Regional Airport. Eric was here on Tuesday and talked with us about that. He is also here tonight if anyone has any additional questions. Okay, hearing none, I would entertain a motion to authorize the city manager to execute change order number three for $145,329.85 and to approve the budget amendment attached. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. All opposed, please say no. That motion passes. Item three, consider authorizing the city manager to execute amendment number two with Talbert, Bright, and Ellington for the North Apron Roadway project at Concord Pageant Regional Airport. Eric also talked about that item on Tuesday night. Does anyone have any additional questions okay in that case i would entertain a motion to authorize the city manager to execute amendment number two for two hundred ninety nine thousand six hundred four dollars and ninety one cents and to approve the budget amendment attached so move mayor okay we have a motion and a second any discussion All in favor, please say aye. All opposed, please say no. That motion passes. Next is item four, and this is to consider adopting an ordinance amending chapter 60, stormwater quality control and management. Article four, stormwater quality control and management, section 60-46, Duty of owner to comply with national pollution discharge elimination permit phase two and utility compliance of the city code to address property owner responsibility and compliance when making changes to owned parcels. Kevin talked with us about that item on Tuesday night. Any additional questions for him? Okay. If not, then I would entertain a motion to adopt an ordinance amending section 60-46 of the city code related to property owner responsibility and compliance with NPDES phase two permits, the North Carolina administrative code, and all applicable zoning and development ordinances of the city. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. All opposed, please say no. That motion passes. Next up is item five, present updates to the Downtown Concord Municipal Service District Facade Grant Program. Paige talked to us about that item. I think there were some questions questions that you've received some additional information about the facade grants over the past couple of years and the recommendation was to approve revisions to the facade grant policy as recommended which reduces those awards which had been increased from five to ten during the reconstruction project and now they want to go back to five Did I get that right? Yes. Any questions? Hearing none, I would entertain a motion to approve revisions to the Downtown Facade Grant Policy as recommended by the CDDC's Urban Living Committee.

1:03:20Speaker 8

I'll make that motion, please, sir.

1:03:24 – 1:04:00Speaker 6

All righty, we have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. All opposed, no. That motion passes. And we move to item six. This is to consider adopting an ordinance ordering the demolition of the structure located at 426 Lincoln Street, owned by Clean Clothes Enterprises. Chief Hughes talked to us about that one on Tuesday. Do you have additional questions for him?

1:04:02Speaker 8

I'm curious if Mr. Patel has been given a day that they're wanting to start demolition of this project.

1:04:12 – 1:04:29Speaker 15

The next steps would be if approved this evening, then they would have to provide him an opportunity to remove items out of the property. They'd have to send this out to bid. The bids would have to be returned. So there's a process that takes place if this was to be approved.

1:04:29Speaker 8

Okay. Because I'm curious why he's maybe being told to move his things already?

1:04:35Speaker 15

If he got told to move those, it would have been an error. An error. It would have happened prematurely.

1:04:40Speaker 8

Okay, and the definition that it's not necessarily just an eyesore as much as it is a public safety issue, correct?

1:04:49Speaker 15

Correct. It's the structures dilapidated as the photos depicted Tuesday evening. Okay, great. Thank you for the clarity.

1:04:58 – 1:05:38Speaker 26

And I guess, Chief, while you're there, because we did have this discussion on Tuesday, are you able to, just for the people that are here that probably weren't present, because we talked about the new parks and the safety issues. So can you talk a little bit about that? And I'm going to look at legal, because we also had the conversation of once it does get legalized, demolished they still can sell the property and how the process works so it's not necessarily a recommendation from us but just from a process perspective how that goes I'm not sure if they also understand that process can you speak a little bit on that good

1:05:39 – 1:06:19Speaker 11

I can speak to that second point. So this is not like a condemnation action in that the city's taking ownership. Sorry, I'll speak up. This is not a condemnation action in that the city's taking ownership of the parcel. They are simply getting an ordinance to demolish the structure that's on there. The owner of the parcel will still be able to sell the property. It just will no longer have this dilapidated structure on it. And then I also want to take the opportunity to correct an answer that I gave to Councilwoman Santana. You asked about interest. I said no because I was relying on my construction experience. These are treated like tax liens and they do accrue interest. So I want to correct that.

1:06:24Speaker 15

Right, so would it be helpful for me to show the photographs again? Can you pull it up please?

1:06:33 – 1:08:34Speaker 15

Just from from a safe that from a safety standpoint, so I'm going to show the photographs And we have the the location is near the corner of Cozart and Lincoln Street Here is a photograph that depicts the street view of this and as you can see the the structure itself has holes in the roof and as we go through the photographs and You can see that the block wall is deteriorating, that the soffits are deteriorating, and that there's actual holes through the side of the structure. And also, along the side of the structure, the block itself is separating, so the foundation itself has been disturbed and is to the place where the block is separating. The building's actually moving. And then again, You can see more detail of the roof where it's allowing weather to intrude into the structure. And again, another photograph. So here's the interior of the structure. And as you can see, kind of in the center of the screen beside the red door, you can see the light coming through where the exterior is now open to the interior. Here's another example of an additional photograph that shows the same. And towards the bottom of the screen under the grate to the left of the foot is a hole that's being covered by the grate as well. And so these are just photographs that depict the condition of the structure. And again, we talked about earlier, the community exposure, but then also the fact that it was pointed out the greenway that's nearby, the park that's nearby, the housing that's nearby as well. So this is just a visual representation of what the community is experiencing.

1:08:35Speaker 18

If you would, it may be beneficial to show the timeline of the violations to code. Yes, sir. The chances that were given and all those good things.

1:08:55 – 1:10:17Speaker 15

Okay, so again, this was two separate cases. Originally back in 2024, the case was opened up, a finding of fact and order to demolish was mailed in July of 2024. In August 20th of 2024, an extension was granted with a deadline to September 20th of 2024. On October 7th, the property owner obtained a building permit to conduct repairs. So in good faith, that case was closed. April of 2025, the building permit was reactivated, and again on January 27th as well. However, there was no rehabilitation work or corrective action taken at that time. So that's the very first case. So then we move into 2026. February 25, another case was opened up. The same notice of violation was mailed. March 27th of this year, the finding of fact and order was issued. April 27th, an extension was granted with a deadline of May 27th. June 6th, a second extension was granted with an expiration of June 27th. And June 30th, the third request was submitted and was denied because there was not any substantial improvement to the property. Does that answer that? Yes, sir.

1:10:18Speaker 6

Okay. Are there any additional questions?

1:10:21 – 1:11:29Speaker 3

I have a question. I don't know who it goes to. I think it might be a Ryan question. I don't see that we have done anything other than what we're supposed to do, right, from that perspective. I see there's safety issues. I also feel like there's some lack of clarity at this point that does concern me because I know what we do is very convoluted too, right, and even as much as we can go through and explain it. And I'm not saying that our staff hasn't done that, so I want to make that clear. Ryan if we took this and basically put it on the September as opposed to what ramifications like or maybe that is a chief question does that have in other words I'm not saying that we change anything I'm not saying that we don't do it because I'm okay if the majority of the council wants to vote on this tonight. I just feel like there's a lack of clarity and you got 30 days to make sure that you're clear on it because it's coming back and we're voting on it next month. I just, like, is that a possibility to do that? We've never done that with one of these before.

1:11:30 – 1:11:41Speaker 11

I mean, that's a possibility. I don't know what would, I don't know that anything would change factually. Correct. The hearings already happened. Correct. The findings in the order have already been sent out.

1:11:41 – 1:12:04Speaker 3

It feels like there's a lack of clarity even on the part what you just said of, like, this, we are not taking the structure. We are not. And that just... I don't know. That bothers me a little bit. I don't know. Does anybody else on council feel like that? And again, I'm not saying we don't vote on it next month. That's not my point. And I think that's a good point, Ryan. Nothing changes. But it just feels like there's a lack of clarity.

1:12:05 – 1:12:45Speaker 26

I agree. I agree. And I don't think it's giving anybody 30 days. It's really more, if what I'm hearing is correctly, which is why I wanted the chief to explain this, I agree with... Jennifer on being able to table this motion for next month, just to allow enough time to really have those clear specifications and clarity. Because from what we heard earlier, I wanted to ask about make sure people understand we're not taking anyone's property. We're not taking their land. We're not taking any of that. And I think that's probably one of the things that people don't have clear

1:12:46 – 1:13:12Speaker 3

understanding on so you can still sell it actually this does not change the sellability in fact sir in my opinion this is my profession this enhances your sellability it and I just I just don't know that's my opinion but I just don't feel like there's clarity there and that's all I'm asking for I'm not asking to change the process we've done what we're gonna do and in my opinion I fully support this on the September agenda

1:13:12Speaker 18

But you don't feel that he understands his predicament, is what you're saying? Correct. So we haven't clearly expressed that to him? I'm not saying we haven't clearly explained it.

1:13:21Speaker 3

That's not what I said.

1:13:22Speaker 18

All right. But he's not understanding it, though.

1:13:30Speaker 3

Has there been face-to-face discussions?

1:13:34 – 1:14:07Speaker 15

I cannot stand here and say for sure, but I will say that the code officer has a cell phone number, which is why he said that he was text earlier today. My understanding is that they have had that, but I'm not going to stand up here and say for sure. But I would just point out that, I mean, you can't see the file here, but there are letters in here where he's received letters. There's correspondence where he sent correspondence back to it. There are receipts. where letters have been received, so all of those things.

1:14:07 – 1:14:32Speaker 3

And please know, I in no way think that we haven't done what we're supposed to do. I just feel like maybe a face-to-face conversation. And Lederick, I'm gonna look to you, because you're up here. We haven't put you on the hot seat yet. What is the most appropriate way to do that? Because I do not want to be asking staff to do anything in any way, because that is not my jurisdiction. If that's possible, if the council agrees, because this is just Jennifer at this point, what would that look like?

1:14:33 – 1:15:06Speaker 25

I think that is Council's, I guess, purview. As the Chief said, we've gone through our process and we believe that our process is thorough. We believe that we communicate well. We don't have a lot of these where folks come back and say they don't understand. And so we've gone through our process and that's why it's come to you to say if you're comfortable this month or if you want to move it to next month. But I believe that our process has been fairly well consistent over time.

1:15:08 – 1:15:19Speaker 15

If it makes you feel more comfortable, I can verify that, in fact, there was face-to-face conversations. If not, I'll ensure that that happens, and then next month I can report back that, in fact, it occurred on whatever days.

1:15:20 – 1:15:33Speaker 18

I'll support Jennifer in this as well. I think the 30 days is not going to make that much difference whether that building is standing there or not. Just make sure that Mr. Patels clearly understands where he's at with the building, and then feed that back.

1:15:34 – 1:15:59Speaker 24

Yeah, and I'm okay with it being tabled until next month. I do believe that, Chief, that you all have done a thorough job, but for the benefit of whatever reason, I'm okay with it. I just need to know And I think you just shared what that process will look like. What are we looking for to happen within the next 30 days?

1:15:59Speaker 18

What's the result we're looking for here? I mean, was Mr. Patel going to, how do we know he's going to clearly understand where his predicament is? He does.

1:16:10 – 1:16:26Speaker 26

I think this is from this time in mind. I'm going to ask you. Can I go ahead and formally make that motion for us to table the consideration of adopting and ordering the demolition of the structure located on 426?

1:16:28Speaker 11

You can make that motion.

1:16:29 – 1:17:02Speaker 3

OK. I think we probably need to determine that, I think, to Derek's point and to the Chief's point. What is the expectation? And that makes me uncomfortable because council doesn't normally give staff expectation. But I do think if maybe it is, has a face-to-face happen? And if it doesn't, like you said, if it could be, I don't, I also know that the level of understanding when we talk about government stuff, we can't determine that piece. I think that's a hard determination. I don't think we can task you with that. But tell me what you think is fair.

1:17:02 – 1:17:45Speaker 15

Right, so I mean, I can verify that in fact, a face-to-face conversation occurred. I can verify that it was communicated as simplistic as possible. But outside of that, I can't for sure say that anybody understands that communication. There has to be some acceptance in that dialogue that affirms, yes, I understand this. I think that it's important just to know that There's nothing really going to change between here and then. We can do those things, but outside of that, I don't know what else to do to help to convey the message other than in writing and spoken language.

1:17:46Speaker 24

I'm curious. If there's been no face-to-face meeting or whatever, how did the pitchers, how did code enforcement get in?

1:17:53 – 1:18:22Speaker 15

That's what I'm saying. I'm reasonably confident that there has been, but I can't in good faith stand here and say for sure without a doubt. And I was trying to just, as I was standing here, flip through. the notes to see if it said something about trying to meet in person, but I'd have to go back through the file to verify. But, I mean, again, if council's decision is to table this, definitely code enforcement can have that face-to-face conversation. And if that makes everything more comfortable, then that is fine with us.

1:18:23 – 1:19:19Speaker 8

Yeah. I kind of feel the same way. I think when Mr. Patel used the word eyesore, that threw a flag to me that maybe he just thinks we're doing this because it's an eyesore. But in fact, we're looking at it as a public safety issue and there, there could be a big difference there and what he understands with that and what he thinks may or may not happen with the property. I don't, I'm going to speak out of both sides of my mouth. I don't know what we're going to think can happen in 30 days. I don't think you can work miracles on that building in 30 days. Um, it's probably still going to get demolished, but I, I tend to agree with all of y'all that I'd feel much better just knowing that we absolutely explained and clearly defined. There's a big difference between an eyesore, some would say my house right now is an eyesore, and I probably would agree, but it's not a public safety issue and doesn't merit being torn down. So I just feel like that clarity ought to be a little bit more maybe well made.

1:19:20 – 1:19:39Speaker 3

So another way we could go is, correct me if I'm wrong, Ryan, you could approve the motion, Because nothing is going to change with the understanding that a face-to-face happens to outline the tax ramification, like this is what happens, this is the cost, this is all of those things. I mean, that's another way we could go, too.

1:19:41 – 1:20:04Speaker 6

I think an important question to ask before you make a decision on this is, What happens during that 30 days on these civil penalties in the amount of $200 a day that have already begun accruing? They continue. They continue for another 30 days.

1:20:05Speaker 8

I just think that's a risk Mr. Patel takes.

1:20:12 – 1:20:25Speaker 26

I just have a question and you said we can ask the party here. do they understand that they can still sell this property even after the building is demolished?

1:20:26Speaker 4

Yeah, but the problem is the price you don't get.

1:20:29Speaker 20

Like, you know, you have a two building, so you don't get the same price like a one building, you know, because they tear it down.

1:20:35 – 1:21:01Speaker 4

And why the police officer sent the message before we even come to the meeting? He doesn't have a right to say before we come to the meeting, you have to move your stuff out. He doesn't know what's going to be happening here today. He doesn't have a right to text message this morning. He text messages. You have to move your stuff out. We still in a meeting. We just came in a meeting today. He sent a message before we came. He doesn't have a right to do that.

1:21:01 – 1:21:22Speaker 26

I understand. I can't comment on that. I just want to make sure from a council perspective that whether we provide the 30 days for clarity, because it's not for changes. It's just for clarity for you to... for you to understand that you can still sell the property even if the building is demolished.

1:21:22Speaker 4

Yeah, but demolition is going to take time because my husband have enough health issues really bad. So it's 30 days we cannot do it. 30 days, you know?

1:21:32 – 1:21:48Speaker 3

You don't demo the building. You understand that, right? You're not responsible for the demolition. No. See, that's my point. No, I can't. That's a Ryan question. Will you explain that? No, no. See, that's what I'm saying. There's a lot.

1:21:48 – 1:22:13Speaker 11

I'm happy to clarify. Let Ryan explain that. So the original order that you would have received, the findings of fact in the order, said that you needed to demolish the building. Yeah. And if you didn't, then the city could seek an ordinance so that the city could demolish it. And that's what's before city council today. The city would pay for the demolition, and then it becomes a lien on the property.

1:22:14 – 1:22:25Speaker 22

Well, what I like, one other thing, sir, if we demolish, it's fine, but I like to put new building on the same place if it possible.

1:22:28Speaker 11

I mean, I can't give you advice on what can, it will still be your property. The city's not taking the property.

1:22:35Speaker 4

No, but. But what if you say you want after demolition this building, you want to put one more building, the city can.

1:22:41Speaker 22

Same square footage and everything.

1:22:47 – 1:23:10Speaker 18

That would be for planning. Can I ask another question, Ryan? Maybe I'm not clear on this. If we proceed to demolish the building, when does his fines quit accruing? When do the fines quit accruing?

1:23:11Speaker 22

But it's for the new owner, not for me. I'm not doing anything. I just want to sell and get out because I'm not feeling good anymore.

1:23:21Speaker 4

We have a building in a sale right now for four months, right? Yeah, six months.

1:23:28Speaker 22

It's on the sale right now. It's in the market right now. The whole property plus a half acre land next to the laundry. Everything's on the sale right now.

1:23:39 – 1:23:52Speaker 18

My question would be during all this time, whatever time it takes to demolish the building and he puts a new building up, if that's your goal, correct? I'm hearing you. Well, the new owner would put it up. Okay, well, anyway, the fines will keep accruing.

1:23:52 – 1:24:06Speaker 11

The fines will keep accruing, but unlike the lien for the demolition, the city would have to initiate a lawsuit to collect the fines, which then go to the school board. If I recall, too.

1:24:06Speaker 4

Can you repeat one more time that one, lien or reinstallment of my property?

1:24:10 – 1:24:34Speaker 11

I'm gonna answer Councilman Crawford again. That the fines will continue to accrue, that they're treated differently than the lien. The cost of the demolition become a lien on the property. The fines accrue and we would only collect it as if we initiated a lawsuit, got a judgment, and then executed on the judgment. Well.

1:24:35 – 1:24:59Speaker 27

So I want to be clear. If we delay this for the next 30 days, there is a $200 a day lien on this property. And we can't just say, well, we're going to forgive that, because it then becomes everybody's going to come to us and say, we want you to forgive our stuff. So is that fair?

1:24:59Speaker 11

The fines aren't a lien. The fines just accrue, and then the city has to go to superior court or district court, depending on the amount, to actually pursue those.

1:25:09Speaker 8

Would the fines stop when the demolition begins?

1:25:13Speaker 18

When do the fines cease?

1:25:15Speaker 8

Would they stop the minute the bulldozer starts tearing the building down?

1:25:19Speaker 15

I don't know the answer off the top of my head.

1:25:21Speaker 8

Because I think that's important.

1:25:24Speaker 15

Once the building's, once it's demolished, the fines stop. Okay.

1:25:27Speaker 8

Okay. So essentially when the bulldozer shows up to knock the building down, the fines are done.

1:25:32Speaker 15

Once the demolition's finished and everything's done, the fines stop. Okay. All right.

1:25:37Speaker 14

Whether that's typically in this type of a setting, from what I understand, this is like a day to demo it.

1:25:44Speaker 15

Maybe two days to demo it with the grading and everything else.

1:25:46Speaker 8

What do you think the process would be or how long, just as a rough estimate, do you think it would take to get, like, a bid and a contract written. I mean, is that an extra 30 days, 90 days, or two days?

1:25:55 – 1:26:45Speaker 15

From my experience, it takes some time. I mean, I think another one that council did a few months ago took several months to get approved. The bids, because they have to write the bids, put the bids out, the bids have to get, people have to have time to develop the bids, submit the bids, have to be open, they have to identify who's going to be the actual contractor. So it takes time. So it could be three months, could be five months. Okay, that's important. Just again, to make sure that everybody's clear, there are fines that accrue every single day. We're after compliance. That's what we're trying to achieve here. So Once they're in compliance, then the city has the ability to waive those and remove those fines. So, again, we're trying to get to a place to where we can get, you know, compliant back with the code.

1:26:46 – 1:27:05Speaker 3

Compliance doesn't mean the order to demo has been issued because I think it's to your point, like, you know, are we accruing more money on something that we're going to do anyway? This is why we have discussions, right? And I, but you don't have the ability to stop that until, so compliance in this opinion is, like you said, once it's clear. Correct. Okay.

1:27:05 – 1:27:33Speaker 18

Once it's demoed and done. But the fines, I want to make sure we're clear on this. Yes, sir. The fines continue to accrue until that demo is completed. That is correct. That could be another two months or three months, but we have the right to revoke those as well. Am I hearing that? So we would have a, It's sort of a responsibility to not or do that, but I would recommend right now we move on this and get this moved forward. In other words, the answer is approve this, in my opinion.

1:27:33Speaker 6

Are you making that in the form of a motion?

1:27:35Speaker 18

That is a motion to go ahead and approve the demolition. I second.

1:27:39 – 1:28:01Speaker 6

Okay, we have a motion and a second to adopt an ordinance ordering the demolition of the structure located at 426 Lincoln Street, owned by Clean Clothes Enterprises. Did I get that correct, both of you? Okay. All right, is there any further discussion on this motion?

1:28:01 – 1:28:35Speaker 19

Yes, Mayor. I just, the only thing I want to add to, not to Muddy Waters, Lederick and Chief, if we can ensure, this timeline here, we did not have the parking place. Now we have a parking place, so there's children, there's a lot of visitors. We just learned today of how many visitors we've had just since the opening, so maybe an increase in patrol, just a little extra visibility, something like that, if we could approve that, or you could... Fit that into your schedule. I'm just asking that to make sure that while we wait for this and while we go forward and get the bids in place, nothing happens that we can't pull back on somebody's safety. Yes, sir.

1:28:36 – 1:28:57Speaker 3

And is it also possible, Chief, that we just make sure there's a face-to-face that does go through, here's what this means, here's what a lien is, this is how, that kind of thing, that would be fantastic. Because I apologize for y'all for the last 25 minutes or whatever it was, but I feel much better about the motion that we've arrived at. So sometimes it takes time.

1:28:57 – 1:29:08Speaker 18

And somehow I don't want to lose sight of the... Angel scenario that we could perform with you know doing away with some of these fights if that were to be a council's approval Okay, I think we have to consider that down the road.

1:29:08Speaker 15

Yes As soon as we finish And this is completed, then I will walk outside with these fine folks and we'll work.

1:29:16Speaker 3

That's exactly all I wanted. We got a motion and a second. That's exactly. Thank you.

1:29:20Speaker 6

We have a motion and a second. We're still in discussion.

1:29:25Speaker 8

What are we? What's the motion?

1:29:26 – 1:29:43Speaker 6

The motion is to approve. The motion is to approve. to adopt an ordinance ordering the demolition of the structure located at 426 Lincoln Street, owned by Clean Clothes Enterprises.

1:29:43Speaker 8

Perfect, so we did not table it. We didn't make any changes to this. All right, perfect. That's where we started.

1:29:48Speaker 6

So we do have a motion and a second, and we're in the discussion period. Are you raising your hand to discuss? Oh, okay.

1:29:57Speaker 8

All right. Thank you so much.

1:29:58Speaker 6

Okay, is there any other discussion? All right, all in favor, please say aye.

1:30:04 – 1:30:53Speaker 6

All opposed, please say no. That motion passes unanimously. Okay, next up is item seven, consider adopting a reimbursement resolution for expenditures associated with a planned fiscal year 27 installment financing. Jessica talked about this item also on Tuesday night. Are there any additional questions on that? If not, I would entertain a motion to adopt a reimbursement resolution for expenditures associated with a planned fiscal year 27 installment financing. So moved, Mayor.

1:30:54 – 1:33:00Speaker 6

Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. All opposed, please say no. Motion passes unanimously. Item eight, consider authorizing the city manager and staff to move forward with site investigation and schematic design with the consultant firm McAdams for WW Flow Park in the amount of $101,000. eight hundred and fifteen dollars and this is item that Jay talked to us about on Tuesday night and mentioned again in his bond project report tonight are there any additional questions Then in that case, I would entertain a motion to authorize the city manager to move forward with schematic design with the firm McAdams for the bond-funded renovations to WW Flow Park in the amount of $101,815. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. All opposed, please say no. That motion passes. Item nine is the item that Jeff Corley talked with us about. Consider authorizing the purchase of a replacement jet vac truck for the stormwater department from the jet vac equipment company in the amount of $632,124.13. and to approve the associated budget amendment. Are there any additional questions on that item? If not, I would entertain a motion to authorize the purchase of a replacement jet-vac truck for the stormwater department from the jet-vac equipment company in the amount of $632,124.13 and to approve the associated budget amendment.

1:33:09Speaker 18

Okay, we have a motion and a second.

1:33:12 – 1:33:55Speaker 6

Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. All opposed, please say no. That motion passes unanimously. Item 10 is considering amending the Article 5.10, political activities in the personnel policies and procedures. Ryan talked with us about that on Tuesday night. Of course, we've had a number of previous discussions. Does anybody have any additional questions? Yes, sir. Oh, your light was on. Oh, I'm sorry. Any questions on that item?

1:33:55Speaker 8

I just have one quick one that I didn't think of the other day. When will this become effective? If we pass it, it becomes effective immediately? Okay.

1:34:03 – 1:34:16Speaker 6

Yeah. Any other questions? Okay. Then I would entertain a motion to amend Article 5.10, Political Activities and the Personnel Policies and Procedures.

1:34:16Speaker 21

I make a motion to approve.

1:34:19 – 1:36:57Speaker 6

Okay, we have a motion and a second a couple of times. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. All opposed, please say no. That motion passes. We move to item 11, which is consider making appointments on vacancies to various City of Concord boards and commissions. As I reported on Tuesday night, Betty, Lori, and I met along with staff. We gave you a list of recommended names, which was to fill Two alternates on the Historic Preservation Commission with Brad Sullivan and Michael Modrak. And then one appointment on the Library Board of Trustees, which was Raven Odell William Garrity. And... couple on the Public Art Commission I think Marilyn long is replacing Selena MacArthur's expired term and then we had two at-large members and those were Cynthia Sinclair and and we've got one still vacant but we think someone is applying so any questions on that So I would entertain a motion to make the appointments as described to various boards and committees. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. All opposed, please say no. That motion passes. Next up is the consent agenda, which consists of a number of items which each have been described in your agenda. No one has indicated any questions or concerns. Are there any now? If not, I would entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda as presented. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. All opposed, no. That motion passes. That takes us down to our advisory boards and partner reports. And first up is the Transportation Advisory Committee. I think that would be Terry and Phillip Graham.

1:36:58 – 1:37:10Speaker 18

Mayor, I was unable to attend that meeting, and I'm going to pass those duties on to Lori, Ms. Councilman Clay, who is going to give us her report, along with Mr. Phillips. Great. Thank you. Thank you.

1:37:11Speaker 8

I'll let you go first. Please. You make it a lot more entertaining than I will.

1:37:18 – 1:38:43Speaker 10

Well, just in our last meeting, sorry, good evening, Mayor, members of council, Mr. Blackburn, Mr. Teague. The last months during the summer, we take a couple months off. from from some of our meetings there was items conducted as far as stip amendments we do those probably every every month there's some sort of date change date slip and so forth we're crossing over a fiscal year with a project so nothing nothing really earth-shattering there the main thing that's coming up is we've got our new Every two years, we go over the new step, the new statewide transportation improvement program. So we're in the midst of that. That'll be coming before the boards this month, the technical board with staff, as well as the elected board, the TAC. And we'll be going over the methodology for Division 10 and Division 9 for projects submitted and how that'll rate across the state. The main note there is that our area is shifting its focus to more of an intersection, fix the more tangible projects versus the widening projects that can't seem to be funded across the state.

1:38:43Speaker 17

So that's probably the main portion I have. Yeah, pinch points.

1:38:49Speaker 10

Everything bottlenecks down to, We're gonna try to fix those points like we're doing with our design now with the Poplar and Harris project as we're moving forward with that.

1:38:59 – 1:39:28Speaker 8

And everything that, I'll ditto everything that he said. I can read this, but there's a whole lot of MPOs and ABCs and 123s. I think probably the most exciting part for all of us out here that don't know all that language, is that the Union Cemetery Road realignment has been successfully lit and construction is underway according to the monthly Division 10 report. I'd say that's probably in layman's terms what we're all excited to know and hear about. Absolutely.

1:39:30Speaker 6

Any questions? Thank you. Okay, next, Water and Sewer Authority of Cabarrus County, and that is Jeff Corley and Jennifer Hubbard.

1:39:40Speaker 3

I'm going to kick it off. I'd like to introduce our new board chair, Jeff Corley.

1:39:47Speaker 6

Congratulations.

1:39:48 – 1:40:46Speaker 3

Nobody else would do it. Jeff was elected in June, and in all seriousness, Jeff has been on this board for I don't know how long, but the technical knowledge and the historical value that he has. Is is huge because we have a lot of young I'm some of the institutional knowledge on that board, which is really scary So we have a lot of new board members So that comes twofold Jeff's got that whole engineering brain, but we are in a time right now that with all of these this expansion and the discussion and bringing all of these municipalities together in these cities and towns and figuring out numbers and It's going to take somebody that's in that lead seat to be able to really direct these discussions and keep them in a really positive way. And I just want to personally say in a public forum that there is nobody that better could be in that spot now. So I really am glad that Jeff is the chair. We also elected Rob. What's Rob's last name?

1:40:48 – 1:41:52Speaker 3

Dunham, he's the town manager for town of Harrisburg as the vice chair. And Rob has been on there for a couple years as well. So big leadership change and we're excited about that. Mike Legg, of course, with his retirement had been the board chair for a long time. We also sent Robin Moore out on retirement. My joke when we went around was if you guys know Robin Moore, I actually thought that she was WASAC for a really long time. I didn't know anybody else that worked there. And Jeff sent this thing that was read about her at the meeting and I think it sums her up well. She was with WASAC for 22 years. And I think her impact definitely extended beyond policies and procedures. She was a trusted leader, a mentor, and a friend, and just really is a big community advocate. So if you see Robin, please thank her for her time on WASAC. And I actually think they are hiring a person, and they divided her job between three other people. So she will be missed at WASAC, but that's a big leadership transition over there. And then Jeff's gonna give some project updates.

1:41:53 – 1:44:12Speaker 16

All right, just highlight a few projects. One sort of to the east of us, a design build project. A team was just selected in BRS and Hazen and Sawyer for the Mount Pleasant force main replacements. All of Mount Pleasant's flow, which is to the east of the county, gets pumped over the ridge to get it to Rocky River. So probably towards the end of the year, you'll start seeing some construction in the 49 area around the arena, Cold Springs Road in there, just to let you know what that is going on. Muddy Creek expansion, so Muddy Creek is the stepchild treatment plant down south of Midland, if you will, much smaller plant. That project's at about 30% design, going from about 300,000 gallons per day to 660, so a little more than doubling the capacity of that plant for the southern part of the county. That project is design-build as well. I think WSAC has stumbled across something that they, a new delivery method that they are just loving, It really is helping not only construct stuff quicker and begin faster, but it also assures some of these projects are just incredibly complicated. Working, designing new capacity on top of a plant that you also have to keep running and doing that in the traditional design bid build is just not very practical. The big plant, Rocky River, phase four continues, still looking at completion end of calendar year 27. Probably soon for the board to start talking about allocating that capacity out through that new interlocal, so I would expect by the end of this calendar year we'd start getting serious on those conversations. And then the last item, we did receive our mid-year true-up last week. If you remember, the mid-year true-up is simply projects that have been constructed in the first six months of the year whose flow is now tributary, so we take them off the paper capacity list. The mid-year does not include any wet or dry weather flow adjustments at the plant, so this number is always generally a very large positive number. So our distribution number 15 since we began this capacity distribution was 124,171 gallons per day. So that flow will go into your buckets per your policy and be available to you in September.

1:44:15 – 1:44:34Speaker 27

So a question, we have been discussing for several months the capacity. We as a council have said where we want to go. Have we heard from the other members? Where are we with that? When you said it's gonna be at the end of the year? No, that's different.

1:44:34 – 1:45:46Speaker 3

He's talking about the actual, the current expansion, the Rocky River expansion. So we met in June is that right my number my yeah, because we're in August. We did not meet in July So it's interesting this could this true up is that whole like? What we have to give and then what is actually used so that difference between the paper and the actual use and that's kind of solidifying that That was an interesting conversation that we had because some of the jurisdictions came to the board and said We know what we need, what we're actually going to use, what we're willing to pay for, but then some came with, so an actual, some came with a paper number, But then there was a discussion from Chad, the executive director, that was like, I work in actual numbers. So this month, we have a meeting next week. The jurisdictions were supposed to go back and make sure we were all talking the same language. And then we should kind of know. So there were some numbers that were given, but we just need to make sure that those numbers are. And then that discussion should start. And I really don't know how long it's going to take for us to get there. I think Chad will take those numbers and add the formula up. And then they'll just have to be a discussion of what all we look at. So I hope does that answer that question?

1:45:50Speaker 6

Any other questions for Jeff or Jennifer? Thank you. All right, next up, Central Line of Council. Lori is our representative there.

1:46:00 – 1:46:30Speaker 8

Well, our meeting was last night. And I was attending virtually. And they've had some management changes there. And the young lady sent out the wrong Zoom meeting number. So I tried to attend, but I was not able to. I did write them and ask, since the Zoom meeting number was incorrect and no one could Zoom in, would they mind sending a recap of what happened? And if it's acceptable, I'll report that next month.

1:46:30Speaker 6

Great, thank you. Okay, general comments by council members?

1:46:38Speaker 4

Does anyone have anything tonight?

1:46:43 – 1:47:04Speaker 6

hearing none there is no need of a closed session tonight so I would entertain a motion to adjourn have a motion and a second all in favor please say aye all opposed no we stand adjourned thank you

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