Common Council - Regular Meeting

It is 6 o'clock p.m. on Tuesday, July 14, 2026. Do you apologize and tell me to order? No. Stand and say, please. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Please. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here. that we aren't even out there yet. So I want to thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Second. As I did at first, I said to improve with the new change. It's fairly impressive. All of this is a meaningful time. It is meaningful. Next up, we'll have the Board of Appeals have a couple of comments. Okay. We're going to close the public comment period. Next up, we have a zoning pass amendment, and I think it is passed right now. It's ordinance 226-27, just so you're aware. 226-27. We're going to go over that. Thank you for coming out, and we'll see you next time. Thank you. I knew you had the hard copy organs. I was still drafting when the packet 20 months was. That's a pretty standard draft. The standard organs, the main thing is that the high commission does file some good amendments that they have to execute this. So dealing with that and how we work with it. has to be figured out. So what this case is, is a lot north of Rhodes Enterprises, a site there on Walnut Street. is currently a home. He's looking to rezone his 2GP. He's focusing our long-resonant 2GP, and then he's going to start changing his business model for it. One of his only commitments that Planned Parenthood discussed was the need for having new friends from the best-selling department in the country, primarily with the reason he had retained from 16 to 11 for his current business expansion. the fence was between that block and the census block. So since this is getting rezoned, it can't get rezoned. So it makes sense to move the fence basically to the left side, which would buffer the still remaining homes to the west from the extended distance. So that is, in a nutshell, what I can see as a critical recommendation from the client dimension. There was some discussion about exactly what the client would be, and so on, what will be sorted out, and if this is resolved, we still have to pay for it from the client's point of view. Or potentially, there is a situation, although that is a systematic way of doing it, certainly some sort of implementation is required for this, but there still will be some statement and so on being placed in the grant effect. So, there are some features that you can use as those bits make the difference. So, that's the summary. Any questions for me? All right, thank you. Is there a sound with a unanimous, a unanimous approval minus one number in bottom line? Correct, yes. And actually, again, so I know that you highlighted the side yard, except that actually made less than it could be. But I think we have two versions of that. What is it that you're talking about? So that's what you're saying. Staff report that is marked up, which is this one, is reflected by the modified seven commitments. So, in 2016, when revenue prices came through with the resuming for the long-term amount, there was any commitment to tax. which were those three. With this, because a couple of those commitments were specific to the lot that is now being in question, they're no longer needed. So the 10-foot side yards on back is struck off entirely, zoning them on the same feet. So it was basically like and then, as I mentioned, the things I require in the cost shifter. And then, no outside storage materials, neither any specific recyclable materials. So that J-8 modification has been done with 2016, and then it's going to be applied to solar properties in the end. Okay. Okay. Any other questions? Thank you, sir. Thank you. Do I have a motion to re-emerge? I have a motion to add 27 by 5-1-1. It's 5-1-1. A little later in the review, we'll find it is the NMS P3, order 226-27. Please call the special order. Order 226-27, an order containing an early classification of certain properties from the R1 senior family residential district to the VE unit of the new school district. Awesome. Do you need to go on to the rebate? Okay. I have a motion by Ryan and a second by Chan to approve Order 2028-747 on purpose rating versus a 7. All those in favor say the evil sign. It is. If you need a mention, move that to the second reading at the next column. Okay, folks. Next up, we're going to get into and your territory here. First, I want to introduce Lisa Lee from Iron Cellar to talk a little bit about the process and why she's here and tell you guys where we've been and where we're going. Thank you, Mayor, very much. Lisa Lee with Vice Miller, serving as vice council to the city of Columbia City on the amphitheater project. The city has been going through what we call the BOT, Build, Operate, Transfer, process in order to determine the engineer and the construction and the guaranteed maximum price for the project. That's the procurement side. We're talking about the financing side. How are we going to pay for that? Where we have been so far, at your May 26th meeting, the council authorized circulation of the supporting taxpayer petition, which is required by the statute. So we go out and we get signatures for taxpayers to support the project. We have to get at least 50. They have to then be certified by the county order. All that has been accomplished. At your June 23rd meeting, you received that certified taxpayer petition, you also adopted a resolution of need, and you preliminarily approved the lease agreement. is the document between the Columbia City Building Corporation, which is a brand-new corporation that was just formed. Marcia is the incorporator. The mayor determines who's on it. They are incorporated simply to be the issuer of the bonds, and they lease the project to the city. If you're familiar at all with school corporations and their kind of debt and their projects, they're always using building corporations as a leasing entity. We have to do this as a lease instead of a straightforward bond issue just for the size of it. So what we are here today is we will be looking for, number one, we'll have a public hearing, and we did provide notice of that public hearing at least 10 days ago. And so you will have a public hearing, and then we will ask you to consider adoption of resolution number 2026-25, which authorizes, it approves the final lease agreement that we have here, and it authorizes execution of that. Following that, we will be coming back to you, so if you approve that action, we'll be coming back to you at your August meeting with more of the actual bond finance and numbers. So at that time, we should be much, much closer to the guaranteed maximum price. We do not want to sell bonds until we know exactly what you need to construct it, so we're not selling more than you need. So we will wait until after that guaranteed maximum price is determined, and if that is okay with this council, then we move forward towards a bond sale, sell the bonds closed, and that closing is when funds are actually deposited with your bank here in Columbia City, and you can get notice to proceed, and you can start paying invoices and things like that on the construction of the project. So that's where we are right now. If I can sit down, you can open a public hearing. We're just a little slow, so I can come back and go through the lease more, a little bit more of the financial side of it, if that works for you. Okay. Thank you so much. Okay, so we will reset the compound fees and open the floor for the public hearing regarding the lease, and certainly, if there are any comments. Okay, any new comments? We will call the hearing and then reach out to the council meeting. Lisa, come on back in, okay? No, no, excuse me. I was going to say, and I know you're going to do this anyway, but can you talk a little bit about the reason why it came all the way in and why that's a part of this program? Yes. Because it would be really hard to hear the whole thing. Yes, absolutely. So I'm going to put a little bit of my Baker Facility municipal advisor hat on for you because they are not here this evening. The lease agreement, the reason that the lease is not considered debt is because the court considers it an operating contract because you can only pay for something if you are actually using it. So, during construction, normally you would have to borrow that interest amount because you've got a bond purchaser who's going to purchase the bonds and they're going to call you on X date. Six months later, that bondholder wants to be paid interest. And so every six months thereafter. However, under this financing structure, because the amphitheater would not be ready yet, the construction would not be completed, you can't legally make a lease payment. So what you would have to do is you would have to borrow those funds, and actually I do have Baker Tully's numbers here. If we lease other city assets during construction, we don't have to borrow that money. That's called capitalized interest. So you borrow it, you put it on top of the power amount of the bonds, so you're putting interest on interest at that point. So we want to avoid that. So you had two assets that were not encumbered at all, and so we are leasing during construction only. They will be released, and I can show you in the next agreement that language, they will be released as soon as the amphitheater is constructed and complete. but that is the city hall and it is your municipal facilities building. The total debt service difference between having capitalized interest and not having capitalized interest is $825. So by leasing these two assets just during the construction period, 12 to 18 months, we can save that kind of money and we don't have to borrow it in the financial itself. I think it makes sense. If you should be questionable, why we're basing the city hall on a million and a half, and the students are trying to say it'd be $100,000. That's reasonable, sir. Yes, you are. We're refusing to vote for it. Well, we do. You do have to convey it to the building board so that they can reach it back to you. But that's why in the lease agreement itself and in the trust indenture, which is a different document, it says we will release those two assets upon completion of the MFA. So they'll only be there during construction. And the amphitheater itself, while it will be technically owned by the building corporation when bonds are outstanding, they only can convey it, and they are required to convey it to you when those bonds are paid off. They do not have the option to sell it or do anything else with it. It is a city asset. They have to hold it for these financial and structural purposes. But that's why you're leasing those theaters. That's during construction. So what we're looking at in the lease agreement itself are lease rental payments during construction of somewhere around $320,000 a year, so $160,000 semiannually. And then before these rental payments, upon completion of the amphitheater, we're anticipating somewhere around $630,000 to $634,000 annually. So break that out semi-annually. And we are paying these from general revenues of the city. My understanding is they're looking to use food and beverage. Funds, but the reality is during, if we do a general revenue plan, what that means is during your budget process each year, you can determine what funds you have and you don't need to use in something else. If you needed to use food and beverage somewhere else, what other revenues could you use to do it? So you will have that flexibility in every budget session. And I'll also add in, so right now, I'm in the fund revenue phase. Yes, I love it. I don't know. I don't really know. I don't know for a hard number of people. But last number, JV revenue, but somewhere around $6 million. And keep in mind that the number that Lisa is talking about is at zero sponsorship, zero rent dollars. So this is the time. So when you know that you're working really hard, just bring that number down. Okay, so my level is that when we come to you in roughly a month, the locality package will some sort be able to say, here's where we were, here's where we are, the numbers that are on this list are not what we're actually going to be paying. Does that make sense? Okay. Now, we do have to approve many similar numbers. I agree with you. I agree with you. I agree with you. I agree with you. I agree with you. I agree with you. I agree with you. I agree with you. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. So, you know, some of those things are going to tell you to, you know, I think that is the action with respect to the lease agreement. We're asking you to approve the execution of it. We would then like to do that with the surrounding notice of the execution, that first 30-day of jumping period. So we're just looking to get that period started. We recognize that you still have, you can still put on the brakes at any point until the bonds are actually sold. So you will have another opportunity in August. As the mayor said, we anticipate having by then the guaranteed maximum price. So then all the numbers will be based on the guaranteed maximum price. And then what happens is if you get to the sale of the bonds, even though you approve some maximum lease rentals in here that we kind of mentioned, once the bonds are sold, then we have to actually match. the debt service on the bonds to the leased renters. So we will lower those leased renters to match what is actually paid. So right now, you know, the interest rates we're looking at might be, they might be basing these numbers on a maximum of 6% or something. Again, I'm not the municipal advisor. I apologize. But if the bonds set up at something more like a 4% or 3.5% or something like that, we have to true up those leased renter payments to come down to match the debt service payment. So you are not paying extra every six months. You only pay what's required to pay the debt service and pay the trustees on a regular basis. So that action, we will be, that is on the agenda, I think, is number six, to consider Resolution 2026-25. And then just while I'm up here, you have an ordinance. We're only asking for introduction this evening. It's Ordinance 2026-26. This is the pledge ordinance. So this is the ordinance that says you will pledge any legally available revenues, and to the extent those revenues are not available, you would put on a property tax if you had to. Baker & Tilly, as your municipal advisor, has to show us, as your bond counsel, that they fully expect that you have at least 125, if not more, usually it's much more than that, per se coverage of the revenues that you want to use, that you have identified as wanting to use, that you have coverage of the debt service so that it's reasonable to conclude that you would never levy that property tax to pay that debt. That's so that I can then give the opinion that this is not a controlled project, not subject to petition or law enforcement or whatever. So they have given me that assurance that you have the coverage levels, and I would expect that at the next meeting they can come and show you those revenues and what the coverage, coverages are before asking you to recoup about what you just saw. I do think they're planning to be here if not in the next meeting. Yeah. GMPB would be one of those things. Yeah. But I want to make sure it's all up there. I think this is, I think it wasn't allowed, but I'm not sure we will allow you to. But you do want the best interest rates you can get. And if you only pledge general, any legally available revenues, if the bond purchase is cool, looking at those is much smaller and the interest rates are higher. If you don't have enough general revenues, you're not paying their bonds on us, right? And so the property tax backup is exactly that. It is a backup, so the bond purchaser will give you the best interest rate that they can. So this will be sold by a competitive sale. I believe they are going to go for a rating. So there will be official statements offering documents. So it will go out to the entire country of potential investors to try and get the best possible interest rate. It will not just be in the U.S. If I were the council or a general citizen, I would be asking, why are we doing this all before we actually need to explain why it's important to do these things? It's a long process. The lease financing process from beginning to end. I mean, Tucker, I just said you at your May meeting, you took some actions at that meeting, and we're still going through your August meeting. So a traditional bond issue can be done in like 60 days. a lease financing is closer to six months and when you do get the guaranteed maximum price and you execute the BOT agreement they will want to start construction as quickly as possible and you want that as well because you don't want to have to have another six months of interim lease rental payments you want to get it completed done release the city hall and then in the municipal building and get on them with just financing the amphitheater itself. So we want to be ready and prepared so that when you have the GMP, if it's acceptable to you, you approve the bond issue, we go sell the bonds, and we get it closed, and you have money to self-destruct them. So we just are trying to not slow down the BOT side of it. We want to be ready. I was going to say that I appreciate the way that I'm being brought up with, and he is now in the middle of his second part. Yes. I don't know how it is. It's difficult. Yeah, and again, the ordinance, we only wanted adoption. We're not asking you to say this. You're not asking for first reading. That's the first reading. However you do it. We're not asking for adoption this evening. So we'll be for first reading. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. I'm going to motion to read resolution number 2026-25 by title 1-1. So moved. Second. Motion to read resolution number 2026-25 by title 1-1. So moved. Second. Motion to read resolution number 2026-25 by title 1-1. Resolution 2026-25, a resolution of the Council of the City of Columbia City for the Execution of Reefs. We've got a chance to talk a little bit about it. If any of you have any thoughts, questions, anything you want to add to it. We're now going to have a motion to approve Resolution 2026-25. It's by right of way, by name, for discussion. All those in favor of the motion, so long as it is, we now proceed. Next up is page number 54 of the packet. I don't know if it's a real one, but it's 2026-26. Second. I'm sorry to interupt him, but to add to the discussion, I would say that the mutual fund is managed through the Board of Trustees, item 26, item 5-1. Ordinance 2-0-1-4-2-6, item 26, an ordinance of the County Council of the City of Columbia City, Indiana, letting general revenues to lease rental bonds of the Columbia City Building, Fort Boyd. Any questions, thoughts, concerns about that? Okay. I'm going to move the motion to move through. Boarding is 2-0-26-5-7-6-9-4-3. Moved by 8-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 We'll tell you. It's the same meeting in August. I think they're going to be planning to have the GMB. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. That's the same meeting in August. Yeah, yeah. August. It's the same meeting in August. Okay. Thank you very much. Did you have a good time last year? Did you have a good time last year? No, I didn't even work on City of Columbia. City of Columbia is my favorite company. Oh, 25 years? I do that all the time. And I appreciate the partnership that you guys have with that. Okay. With that, we'll move on to the next report. Anything you want to report? Not a major. The subject of the report so far is Patrick Hughes, who we'll see at the last meeting. I'm not sure I've seen him tonight at all. I don't know if he has. Hopefully during the rest of the meeting. Well, that's a good question. Question eight. How many people were carried? We're a part of the Amazonian party, which I'm not exactly sure of. I think we're going to be addressing around the world. We may have a conversation, but I think we're going to have a conversation about that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I want to thank the electric department. We've got again a newer soundwriter that we bought about a year ago, and we still want a new one. And we did not get a lot of sunscreens last year, and I think we're now away from making fewer breeze sound trainings. So thank you to Sean and Jason for bringing these themselves and working on that car flow plan. And he kind of reminded me a little bit about a few of my best friends from in 2009. They haven't. It's a lot of work. It's a lot of having them right now. We are working with Lucille Lee on shipping that and getting that ready, as Nathan said. Also working with Muslim and evil women. We had a boat snag. Brother Roe. We told Brother Roe we were hunting. Broke his skin and teeth. So we're negotiating that, and they asked for a fill on that, and they've asked for a move on that. We're negotiating on that. Also, we're working on the policy, also working on the policy on the computer, all of that, getting on the NGMP's variables. Then we're doing these rain runs now, trying to get everything ready for July 29th. We've been working in Indiana, taking down little trellises. I threw that in there at the end of the semester. We're about done with those. We ordered some beautiful life-size artificial trees in Nashville right now. They're on the boat somewhere in the Pacific, but it's not where we want them to be. Recently, other than June's deal we worked through, I'm nervous that people over there are having issues with noise from the people out there. But we're trying to combat that as well. So we're planning some different plans to get people over. So those are related to this heat. And kind of a weird moment, a local community reached out and they'll just shadow me for a morning. a life example where they don't have to be involved in things, you know. I was on the Seattle show. Yes. So, all the ways that you guys have to do this, how does that work for you? And so, yeah, other than that, it's just a lot of getting ready for the end of the show. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. He helped carry it over to the bay. He was one of the crew drivers that led us to try it out. And he was a good one. He really loved it. And then we spent this, if you will, with the disciples. I'm kind of sorry, but we're going to read this. Oh, the neighbors of the disciples. Oh, really? Oh, no. What does he tell them? And I want to say, I'm ever scared for you. I'm scared for you. I'm scared for you. I'm scared for you. I'm scared for you. I'm scared for you. I'm scared for you. These are fire and strike and equipment that the dealer is working up for the month. We'll have some of this in the Atlas getting a little prepared for this month. We'll have some of this in the Atlas getting a little prepared for this month. We'll have some of this in the Atlas getting a little prepared for this month. We are on the way to Montreal. We will try to slow down or just bring the gear in. We'll see what we can do. Thank you. Last Thursday, we had an idea in the station. It really went well considering, you know, a lot of them. This would be one of the things that's at the end of another number of our warehouses, which is very easy. The other is a fuel tank that we have to build diesel pump. And we will be using that tank for a long, long time. So we're just going to move it to another barn. And he said, if the motor is still in this building, the neighbors have us. She didn't write it down, but I mean, I got a million hours, five over three. He said to me, I said, hey, we're out there building now. We're building this building of ours. He said, now, this room will come out. And he said, get the bottles out, bring the oil, get the permits. He said, we're a ten-minute issue. I said, you have a million hours. We have all our things on the South Tower. They were recommended, and this was out. Now we get a filling station. I mean, there's other meetings around where people purchase the water because then we can guarantee we can get a water bottle filled with gas. So they turned it for water bottles. Yeah. So I mean, I didn't know there were water bottles. But then we could get our cleaning in that area. Yeah. And stuff like that. So I mean, that's the only thing that I would ever take. We didn't have any of our water bottles. No. We didn't have any of our water bottles. We didn't have any of our water bottles. We didn't have any of our water bottles. We didn't have any of our water bottles. We didn't have any of our water bottles. We didn't have any of our water bottles. We didn't have any of our water bottles. We didn't have any of our water bottles. We didn't have any of our water bottles. We didn't have any of our water bottles. We didn't have any of our water bottles. We didn't have any of our water bottles. We didn't have any of our water bottles. We didn't have any of our water bottles. We didn't have any of our water bottles. We didn't have any of offer is getting a lot easier to come and contest. And you can also recommend that we have a vaccination ordinance and then make a recommendation that we need to put some is that if they don't do what they're supposed to do, then they're going to end up in prison. We have a problem with that. When you say problems, what do you mean by problems? When you say problems, what do you mean by problems? When you say problems, what do you mean by problems? When you say problems, what do you mean by problems? where it kind of made it out the back of the day. They have you tested every year. So our program is every block. We've got hours. Every month, we help those students renew theirs. Yeah. We send them letters. But we didn't guarantee they were going to do it. And as she said, we needed to achieve that so that, you know, they're more likely to get it done. That was the only thing we had in the problem. And none of them had anything to do with the parking lot. Okay. Thank you, Mike. I don't know, you know, this is a big, big deal. A lot of states have had us. I started out using a little number for over a third of the month. I started sending in emails and getting that in the second period. I completed a sampling in the first day of the period. I was able to set times of day. I was able to do my surveys and run results. I was able to do my research. If there was something to plug, I would run around and have a sample. I would be able to find it and see if there was a better place. are not qualified because, for example, as you know, there's a lot of people who are in Mexico. So that's another thing. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So, I'm not supposed to be amazed, but I'm glad I'm here. I'm glad I'm here. I'm glad I'm here. I'm glad I'm here. I'm glad I'm here. I'm glad I'm here. We do a lot of work on that. We're moving from the beginning of the summer to the end of the summer. Actually, a few months ago, a lot of readers I think had issues with the music tape. The final piece of the album itself, I don't know if you saw it, but we did it together actually a little about three months ago. We did it in the late 90s and 80s. So, I don't know if you've heard it now or if you haven't. So you can see that there's a lot of things that we're trying to do right now that we haven't done in a while. And we have some things that we're trying to do that we can really do and we're really good at. Now, you said, you know, we've got a lot of stuff that's already in. We've got a lot of things that we're trying to do right now that we haven't done in a while. So where does it go from here? Where does it go from there? I mean, we've got a lot of stuff that we're trying to do right now. And so I think we need to do a lot of planning for the rest of the course of the year. We've got some problems with some of those, but we're moving in on that. We're going to be in the process. At least we have options. There's a lot of work ahead of us. We've got a lot of work ahead of us. We've got a lot of work ahead of us. We've got a lot of work ahead of us. I'm sorry, everybody. So that's what we're hearing. Obviously, we're paying for it. But obviously, Sony, in any way, I mean, whatever we were chasing to, we should probably be able to either keep it or leave it at that. So we're looking for that. And it sounds like you're trying to pull it out of the ground. We've seen it. We've seen it. We've seen it. We've seen it. We've seen it. We've seen it. We've seen it. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward. I think we are ready to move forward We're in phase four, and we're in phase three, and we've got a price tag on that. We've got some other models. We've got some old models. We've got some other models. We've got some other models. We've got some other models. We've got some other models. We've got some other models. Thank you. Thank you. Good afternoon. I'm also Robert. I'm the current president of the field. I'm very lucky. I've been involved in this for a very long time. I've been involved in this for a very long time. I've been involved in this for a very long time. I've been involved in this for a very long time. I've been involved in this for a very long time. I've been involved in this for a very long time. I've been involved in this for a very long time. I've been involved in this for a very long time. I've been involved in this for a very long time. And I was talking about the community, and the community that I've been in for a long time. And I was like, oh, we've had enough. I'm sorry, I've had enough. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. A year doesn't go for a cross, does it? No, it doesn't go for a cross. Oh, yeah, in a sense, the Lord was... Gotcha, gotcha. I did have an opportunity to work on it, but that was a long, long time ago. Yeah. I'll go here. I'll go here. I'll go here. I'll go here. I'll go here. I'll go here. I'll go here. I was so much more comfortable, of course. I said, now, let's make that happen. And I said, well, I'm a little bit of a technical hazard. I'm going to raise out a lot of money. I don't know if this is going to work for me. I don't know if this is going to work for me. I don't know if this is going to work for me. I don't know if this is going to work for me. I don't know if this is going to work for me. I don't know if this is going to work for me. I don't know if this is going to work for me. I'm trying to understand what you're talking about. I'm trying to understand what you're talking about. I'm trying to understand what you're talking about. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So, a couple of things. Leslie says her regards to USF. I don't know if you've seen it, but it's the Indian League of Municipal Affairs and Treasurers. I saw her yesterday, and I got to give a small little welcome after lunch yesterday, and we talked about a couple of things that were very helpful to people and stuff like that. A couple of other useful things we're still working on. From an angler perspective, we're still working on the rig. We're still working on the muskies. We've not done one of those. I think probably the next one may be a good one to end with, and we'll start getting into the late rains and how that's going to be structured and things like that. So I think that'll be our, I think that'll be our second official, but the third most needed to do that. Not a lot of startling number. Leslie is the only voting member, and I say essentially on that, on the committee, but I'll say that's where we got first, I think, first real conversation with the three. So, yes, everything, of course, the light, T-50, that's wonderful. And you see Jennifer, for her work on this, is kind of silver-headed and opening up the boxes. Her review, of course, she's very gentle about taking those documents out, trying to show them around. I've gotten a thousand questions about her, and, you know, people don't even see the materials. And you can say, hey, it's been months, and she's already had this right out. And you can probably find out more from her. Best job. In case you don't believe in 43 years of it, March of last week had a great turnout, a lot of people voted for that, but it was a lot of people, so it may have been the most you guys felt in any case. I attended former mayor Stephen Hughes' funeral on Capitol Hill last week as well, and he just sent our best wishes and a couple of prayers for her family and for the people that have been there. We've just had a lot of things going on. It's been a long stage, but we also have the, it's going to get different. The RBC is working on, we're working with the city. We've got a lot of projects that we're working on. And I think just so that people want to be here. Sure. The general is fine. Oh, you have a job right over there? I do. Sorry about that. I don't really even know how to do it myself. Sorry about that. Anyway, we are working on property management from the name of the contractor. And next week, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, I will be at the end of the day talking to the manager. I'm going to go ahead and call him right now. He knows all of our departments. They've been working with us. He's doing a great job. So we're going to let him know that he's doing a good job. Yeah. First of all, I wanted to talk about a project that our commission is working on right now. Last summer, we were in the sense that we were trying to form a license for a double-sided art display. I don't know what else to comment on, but it was greatly given to us, and we really enjoyed it. And we didn't have to do a lot of things at all, but it was a great opportunity to start a team this year, and it was a great source for us to work together. So that's the big problem with the wedding. Obviously, I never talked about the wedding before. I just had a conversation over the wedding day. But basically, what we were doing was we were selling the wedding day. And I said, you know what? I'm going to sell the wedding. I'm going to sell the wedding. I'm going to sell the wedding. But I say I don't want to say I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. I don't know, I think I really knew. I went to a little Grammy for it all the way, and he's like, I don't remember. I haven't been to this one. OK, well, let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see if we can get into this one. Sure. OK. What I did on the day of tonight was that I had to be in the cemetery to get those items that we had at the museum. And I went through all of them. And I had five bags full. And every single item in that box was in the detail numbered And then we accelerated it to, say, zero. The PC farm values is always higher than we were saying. opening day, we could think that, you know, we were getting rain from all over the house. Things on the other top third of the box were very nice and bright and pretty. And if you look at that, the part that we moved down that box, as you can see, covered more than, you know, almost anything. So there's a sort of student fan, and there's lots of mold, lots of connotations that go back and forth. And there's curtains at the bottom. So for, we think of being gentle with mothers, and I've also been saying that I was one of the first ones to hear from a mother like this. So there's going to be a period of time when you're going to try to think about how to decide when you're going to do things. So it's been a long time. How's it going? You know, I used to go to New Orleans, but now I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. One, you get all of the stuff you've done there. It is viewable, and that's how you're going to do it. You're going to refine it, and you're going to cut that stuff out. And then there's a lot of stuff you can do. So I suppose you could look at, you know, a piece of clay, and you can do that. And so you're going to have to think about whether you're going to be able to do it or not. And that's how you do it. That's exactly right. I'm curious. I mean, that's something you get to design yourself. And we're going to do that. We're going to have to talk to her real quick. Moving on, I didn't have any questions here. Thank you very much for your time. It was great meeting you. Thank you. Well, actually, this is really well done. We're going to go to the end. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And then I did want to mention that long-term, you don't need to have a prepared cycle. Yes, you're right. You don't need to have everybody else coming. You don't need to have everybody else coming in. I know it's been a bit of like a crazy 50 years, but, you know, look at that now, and you know, we're in a period of like two, you know, three, three years. Yeah, and it's going to be sort of like, I don't know, so, I don't think there's a very long, I don't know, I don't think there's a very long, you know, I don't think there's a very long period of time that there's going to be some part of it that I don't remember. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Actually, the earlier orders that we got, they didn't actually come to us. So we had to kind of bring it up and fix it. And that's where we ended up. So anybody wants to come up and talk about this project? I don't know. I don't want to make you say it, but we're going to do it. I will mention that I appreciate you reading the whole piece of it, reading from this. It's been a long time. It's been a long time to read, of course, and you've been here three, four, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12 years. It's an amazing desk full of books. It's really cool. It's really cool. It's really cool. And also, this family, I just want to thank the chief panel. I'm so proud of them. I'm so proud of them. I'm so proud of them. I'm so proud of them. I'm so proud of them. I'm so proud of them. I'm so proud of them. I'm so proud of them. I'm so proud of them. I'm so proud of them. So we do have a lot of updates about the jail. We now have three different firms who are interested in working with us and talking to us about the future of the jail discipline. So you can report on that. We need to get a couple of appraisals for those. property. So we're working on that. And then the two districts, one in Walmart and the one in Dallas, has a program for another complex that's been working diligently in those states. And we heard what was out there, and we can't wait to see what's happening with this. Thank you. Thank you, Ryan. Ryan, thank you for the audience. Because I didn't get any chance to board or nothing. Okay. And with that, we'll call it a day. Thank you. So, what you have in front of you, I could have brought more information, but I didn't want to bore you. This is the desk kitchen at the Marshall Building. Sorry, Sally. I didn't expect you to be here. I can give you a conversation. What we are doing is we've got in there, we kind of have clusters, clusters, clusters. We finally figured out, we called all the right people. The equipment we have right now is a combi oven. It's a convection oven. It has a hood, and it's only rated for steam. So you cannot do any official cooking or anything that puts off What is it? Grease-laden bates. Grease-laden bates. So you can't even boil meat, anything like that. So as a steward to the city, I've been kind of sucked away. See how if you give $60,000 to them? I've been sucked away a couple of years. I had $120,000 in that account. That was not good. And someone So right now I have $47,000. I'm not throwing him under the bus, but he's at the table. And I think that's something that you can get approval of. I mean, it's $1,100,000. Thank you, sir. Just get to where you're going to go with this. You know, we have, so now we have the phone calendar back. is working there all the time. And so she reached out to people and said, hey, we want to do this. And we did. That is the AI portal on the second page. It is AI. We will not have the stuff behind the cooking space. It will be a single steel counter open. We're blowing out of the, we're putting in like a 13 foot hood. And so it's going 12 foot, sorry, 12 foot 1 hood. It's going to be a game changer. She's brought Tad on board. Tad is very best of the best. And so my numbers are just getting written there in the club. The need I need from CSAT to do this completely. And I feel like we've had four starts. We've had four starts. This would be, you know, this would get us off the ground. And where we're at, we have all the pocket games. We have all the mixing dishes. We have everything there. We just don't know where to come from. We need to, once or twice a month, remove a huge island out of jail. We're going to have power runs back. So if you want to run a plunder, you can run on a stainless steel island. You can do anything on this island. So I mean, it's going to be... So, you know, just not for payers. Right now, we're taking a pay-per-view class, but that's it. We can't do anything anymore. And so, this is going to be, we're kind of, a good fire is included. We're kind of kicking around, and we want to do a good fire, just because of the grease, 20 degrees. But, I said, I can't actually turn it on today. If anybody's watched the player, I'm going addicted to the player. So I'm like, yeah, let's put it out there for everybody. I mean, it's in an old comprehensive plan. It's in a new comprehensive plan. I really get excited. We had a, I think you were typing on it, a guy reached out on Facebook that wanted to start doing cooking classes. And so, I tapped and tagged back with him. And he was like, yeah, I would like to start this. I know, you know, we'd kick around, like, getting the mayor's mom in there to do cooking classes. And, you know, like, cooking classes and all this. And you think, hey, it's going to hurt their mind. And it sometimes spurs me out. But I think, oh, they'll mind it. And so, like... It's only limited, but we could do there, you know, cookies for Thanksgiving, cookies for Christmas, all that. And then, oh, it's Jackie that lives on, you know, football street right next to the West. I've met with her a couple times, you know, like doing Easter egg coloring, all that. You know, and it's got an area that you could rent out for, like, if you're doing a brighter shower and different things like that. And we'd get somebody that fell outside, and then they realized, we don't have those proper shots. So they kind of just stepped away from it. Right now, we've got the best momentum we've got. And I think for $56,000, I mean, I think we have $125,000, or is it exceeded for future projects? I don't know the exact numbers, but we have it. We have it. We have it. And so just like that, I'm not really I think it would be great. I do not cook. I don't know. I can cook my own hamburgers. That's my favorite meal because that's all I can cook. And so, but I think that this is, I think we, what, an incredible food and beverage cup? You know, like... has fear downtown, I think we can continue building on this by providing people with space and income. So that's a piece of it. So that's actually a potential generating event. Correct. Yeah. I mean, the goal would be that it comes off the table. Well, that approach, I mean, it expires next year. Next year is the final year. Final year. Well, you have several rules to say whether or not it's a fix or not a fix. Yes. Yes. You don't need to write on the date where you say, We can assume by a DC appointment, already having this conversation a long time ago, it's been with you forever. Yes. And we have this conversation. So let me just make sure I'm real clear about what you're asking. You're asking for the $56,000 or whatever it is. Yes. And it is a project. Correct. And it was basically there is no more construction, no more need to do anything else. You're ready to go after this university. 100%. So we brought in the school because the school was – What are you doing? What are you doing? And people brought in, this is where I'm kind of like, I'm a struggle, but people brought in their best electrician, their best masonry, their best, I mean, everything's going to be done. Everything's going to be wrapped in stainless. And so it was so nervous. The school guys were there, and they're like, these electricians. I don't know. Some guy came to them. He's like, where's this piano? They've got like three or four pianos for it. Who do you work for? And they told me, oh, OK. And they're like, yeah, so we're not getting We have a team of everybody there, masons, everything. And we're going to keep up all of our equipment and move it around, but this is her vision and I'm coming to it. So not only are you using what we have there, but you're acquiring additional pieces I was trying to deal, and then before we went with the deep fryer, people were like, what happens if somebody's making, you know, I don't know, but, you know, chocolate shells. They want to do that, you know, thing. And it was like, this stuff, I didn't know a grill would be great, but a grill would be great, or whatever. And so a lot of it's in there. What have we got? Countertop fryers, grills, and a range. But I would say you can get on the web restaurant and probably find this stuff a little cheaper. But we know where we're getting it from, from Fort Wayne. It's going to be delivered and sold by them, not by us or anyone. Yes. I've also heard, like, from a friend of mine, but I think it's a good idea to talk about this project. I thought it is a good idea to talk about it. I thought it was a good idea to talk about it. I mean, it's... I was kind of jammed into that in my last life. And it's been great. I mean, her vision is just incredible. That's the people you hear about. We have other items. We have a price table that we already adopted. We might adjust that just for like the first year, kind of cut it down for like maybe $15 an hour just to get people in the door. But we had a gentleman last year, and he, his food truck, he could cook everything. He could not chop his vegetables in a food truck or use just water from his factory because that's not what the public calls the public. So he had to get water from us and food from us. But we could never really make it work. But there was a food truck that was like, I could just eat one hour a day, get in there, chop my food, and show guys, take five gallons of water out of here, and put it in the food truck because I can cook everything. So we're going to be that concert kitchen kind of in the morning that's exploratory kitchen. in the teaching classes at Yale. I would say, seriously, we have an area of trouble. Well, so the majority of the money that we've actually, yeah, I mean, the majority of the money we've actually spent into this has been more just to pay the schools and all the ones to be here. But definitely, we utilize their equipment. We say, okay, it pays off to you. I know we've pieced together a lot of exams and things like that as a part of it. But generally speaking, the money that we've spent along the kitchen has been for the states. But I'm kind of on the same side for a long time. He's the first year where he wrote his name. That's why I was supposed to tip. I'm like, is this the last major paper? It's been in my queue since I started working here, but I didn't have that vision. I don't have that food vision, so I did. You know, especially after you left, it was like, okay, we've got nobody to push us, and then all of a sudden, They're like, I'll take this one. The two people I hired prior were like, if you get the contract, we can run it. What do you want? No, let's not. Jack's like, yes, I want to be there. And so I'm like, hey, let's get what we do every once in a while. Let's be a special maker. So you come into work. If somebody's wrecked, if they can make a travel and have a good time, let's put in speakers and make it where somebody wants to go and break. I think we've built a lot of good ideas, and we're going to do more of them. I don't think that they're going to pay the market for this. I think that this is a spent thing that maybe they're putting in. I'm happy to go out to jump all the way in. I don't think that they're going to pay the market for this. I don't think that they're going to pay the market for this. I don't think that they're going to pay the market for this. Well, you have made these steps, and so you have four little holes. I mean, we haven't truly figured that out, but since, you know, us, I think it's kind of hard for her. Yeah. It's hard for her. It is shared. It is shared. But it would be that, you know, the fact that she doesn't know how to see. Yeah. Well, and in fact, our service aides were like, we're kind of debating, do we get her to be an administrator so you can do service aides training? I mean, that would be the other thing. We did that for the school. Don't do that for the school. And it was like... So I just want to make sure that our people understand that we have a kind of a network of all kinds of people. We probably suck at numbers in general. Yeah, exactly. But we handle well. You can't go wrong with it. It's one of those things. I know. Well, we've all done it. Yeah. Sometimes. Yeah. And you've seen it happen. Yeah. It's really accurate. Yeah. I mean, we stick around. We're thinking about restaurants, but we've also met with the NIC and other organizations to like, how do we roll in? Because we do have a classroom there. How do we roll that in? The one thing that I'm trying to bring everybody in, we have a second room that is their one, but doors, whatever we want, they're kicking around garage doors, doors that you run it for a week. You see if you can make it into that room. The decision right now is everybody that has talked to us, like, oh, we'd like to do more with the school. We're kind of struggling with that. But still, you went for a week or a month, and you've got, you know, so we're not getting into that. Yeah. It's actually very exciting. I think I know in your initial research, you know, We try to get information out of our way. And do you have some information from anyone? Hammond has one, but it's run by the EDC. So I think we'd be one of the first ones. And there's one car that takes the birth rate. They're everywhere. But the problem is, if they're selling it here, it's to the point. that either they don't get into business, or they don't pull in, or they're overflowing. Pulling in and then trying to, you know, make money. Yes. And you talked about Wes. He needs those people. And it's like, it's another place for those people to get training instead of going to McDonald's and then you're stuck in there. So if we can provide an upscale kitchen that they can do everything in, I think it's a great benefit. I come back to what you said about, you know, you're already getting a lot of time here, and you're looking for a place, and you know, Corey's gone for a little while, Steve's been right for a little while. And so I keep going back to, like, that was a cool inspiration for me to start taking into consideration that future idea. And I mentioned it's part of our program. I don't know what it is. I don't know what we did last year that we take over. What year was it? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. And we're actually, the funny thing is, we are, like, she comes in and steps us, and she's like, has anybody done what you're doing? We're like, no. And she's like, okay, you're okay. And she's like, and Casey, she's like, can I give out names? Tracy does. Because she's like, I know people that want to do this. So I think it's going to be... I didn't realize I had to do that for you. But my neighbor wanted to help work here tonight. I still think that's one of the best work there is. So, uh, you good? Any problems? I'm good. I'm good. I'm going to be excited to vote for that. I'm going to be sure to vote. Okay. And I'll see you at the end of the group. All right. Thank you. Okay. I'll see you at the end of the group. Okay. We'll call you when you get there. Thank you.