Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

All right, I now call to order the 431st Planning Commission meeting of the City of College Place on July 21st, 2026. The time is now 611. Will the clerk please take the roll call?

Commissioner Ivey?

Present.

Commissioner Tan.

Present.

Commissioner Frey. Present. And we have Commissioner Santillano and Commissioner Weisswig are not present at this time. We have excused absences from Commissioner Rogers and from Commissioner Stepper, and we do not have a quorum.

uh claudia santiago just phoned in and she will santiago excuse me and she'll be here shortly so then we can have quorum so no action will be taken until we do have a quorum

Okay. We now have time for public comment. Clark, did anybody give us any written comment?

There was no public comments received.

Okay. Do we have a request to speak by phone or virtual? Appears not. All right. So they were not doing that. Yep. Yeah, we'll come back to the consent agenda. No action there at this time. So we are welcoming now an update on the comprehensive plan, the periodic update from Elizabeth Smith, Derek Bratton with JUB. The floor is yours.

Sorry, Angela, I didn't know you'd be here.

No worries. Okay. I will share my screen with our presentation. Looks like I can't share while Clerk is sharing, so if you're able to turn that off so that I can share my screen. Okay. All right. Can you all see that?

Yep.

Awesome. Okay. Okay, so good evening, everyone. Glad to hear that we'll be having a quorum tonight. We're here to share an update on the comprehensive plan update for our July planning commission meeting. And, you know, as already introduced, Derek and Angela are here, part of the JVTLG team. We'll just get right into it. So tonight we're going to review how we got to a draft, a complete draft of the comprehensive plan, doing a planning and public involvement process recap. We will do a guided tour through the draft comp plan, and then we will provide guidance on the final steps prior to adoption of the comprehensive plan. And we'll start with a public involvement recap and I'll hand it off to Angela.

It's Lizzy. So I know Jim in the room. Nice to see you, Jim. I don't know if I know the other council members. So I previously was on maternity leave. And so I don't know if you guys presented to this commission before. But I'm just going to provide a brief overview of the project entirety so we can get a refresh on where we've been and the feedback that we've heard. And then I'll sit back to Lizzy to go over how she used that feedback to get to the draft that you guys were able to review. last week. So we'll start with our technical advisory group. This was one of our stakeholder groups for the comprehensive update plan and our purpose with this group was to find individuals that had expertise in the community and could really guide us and provide us with information and final recommendations that would meet the community needs in this plan. And so we met three separate times with them, started way back in September and then we had an update meeting in March and we just finalized our last meeting this month and got final recommendations from them as well. And as you can see, the members of our tag here are pictured. Sorry, Jim, we've still got to Photoshop you in this one, but we'll make sure to do that for the final plan. And so, yeah, we really used this tag as our eyes and ears on the ground and our guiding voice, really.

Could we put Jim's face over Derek's head?

I'll make that in the note. I also heard maybe having Jim coming out of the corner, maybe Teletubby's son version that was thrown around too. So we'll give you some proofs, Jim, and you can approve.

Thanks. I vote that John doesn't get a vote.

Noted. Okay. Next slide, Lucy. Okay, and so with our climate element that's incorporated in the Comprehensive Plan, we had what we called a CPAT, which was the Climate Policy Action Team. Similar expectations of this group, and we used them to really focus on the climate change and resilient element and so providing us with that feedback and on-the-ground information for what is gonna help make this plan reflective of community needs wants and visions for the future so we met with them similarly three times we started this process in March we had another we did baseline meeting with them brought them up to speed and then had a a workshop with them in June and then had a final recommendations review meeting with them this month as well. And so then these are the members in the CPAT on the right there. Thanks, Lucy. Okay, so we had a couple events for this project. One of them was an open house, which was really successful. That was way back in October. And we had 40 attendees at that event. And that event, the goal was to really inform the community that we're starting this process and provide them with all the background information that we had. and get some initial feedback on where we should spend more of our time on this current draft. So we had some interactive activities, dot voting, and just casual conversations. As you see, people kind of roamed around the room. We had staff and planning team available for questions and comments. So we just got a variety of information that we used to do that first iteration of our draft. And of course, we had pizza and kids activities. We really tried to drive everyone in. We did a ton of social media and advertisement for this event. And it was a really good turnout. So next slide, Lizzie.

Angela, just for the record, I wanted to let the room know and anybody attending that we now have a quorum. Claudia Santiano just arrived at 616. Thank you, Claudia. We now have a quorum.

Okay, sweet. And so, like I said, our advertisements were largely on our project website, social media. We had physical flyers that were hung up. And, you know, we had the CPAT and the TAG sharing all this information as well within their networks. And we had all of our information available in English and Spanish. These are just examples of some of the things that we used for advertisement. Along with this page, too, we have more advertising. And this was advertisement for our comprehensive plan public survey. We had really good response with this one too. We had 76 responses between the English and Spanish option. And that was open from September 25th through the 1st of November. And depending on if you were a student or not, we had up to 30 questions in that survey. And we promoted it in fun ways too. We developed a coaster that was at local eateries in town. We had a flyer in the buses. And then we had other physical flyers and then another round of social media posts as well. All right, next slide. And so what we heard from that community survey really was the focus on youth and family services, which is not a surprise, that comes up a lot when we're talking about community feedback. Specifically, people are really interested in sports fields and activities for youth and family. And then housing, the main comment I heard was about affordability and availability focused on single and multifamily housing and how we're planning for density. And then the balance of development between business types and sizes. So we're talking in our local versus regional chains and then balancing that with tourism. And then I heard a lot about environmental stewardship and water preservation, even curbside recycling and just access to more green space. And then when we asked about public facilities, most people agreed that moderate or understandable upgrades to police and city hall were okay, but they didn't want to exceed what they thought that college place needed. And next slide. Okay, so then we did a follow-up survey with the climate element, and this was open this spring from March 30th to June 1st, and that was a smaller survey, 10 questions. We didn't get as much response from this one. We got 20 responses, and some of the feedback that we got on the next slide, was top concerns, which we heard these and other feedback opportunities too, but people were really concerned about wildfire and those related impacts. I heard smoke a lot and then drought and water supply. and preparing themselves for extreme heat events and also flooding. And then when we asked about preparedness, we heard that people generally felt like the community was not fully prepared and many respondents feel that they were personally underprepared. So some improvement there. And then when we asked them how they would feel more prepared, they would like more education and workshops, evacuation routes and planning to be more clear. And then better information about the local risks and how to prepare themselves for the individual climate events that were identified for College Place. And then some more improvement on emergency alerts as well. line okay and so one of our public events for the comp plan was this block party that we went to this spring and there was 71 individuals that participated in our interactive exercise at our booth and then countless you know face-to-face comments as well and what we heard the most was housing and neighborhoods that's the question asked what they were most excited about about and for planning goals and it was housing and neighborhoods and then closely followed by infrastructure and services and so there's a picture of that dot poll there so you can see the layout there um i don't know if you can i can read those to you but yeah um housing and neighborhoods infrastructure and services and then followed by community character and identity and sustainability in the environment and then economic vitality and lastly was governance and civic life And then at this booth, we had copies of the comprehensive plan that people could flip through. We had flyers that took people to the project website, contact information if they wanted to reach out and share anything or follow along in our process and when they could engage. Next slide. And then we did a similar thing for the climate element. And so these were back-to-back College Place booths and we had the planning team and College Place staff available to answer questions about both plans. We had interactive activity for the climate plan as well. We did this voting activity and the boards, I have a better picture on the next slide, but the boards have the different climate elements that were identified that were relevant to College Place. And we asked people to vote for which climate element they were most concerned about for themselves. So we got pretty good participation in this. About 100 people came up to the booth and voted. And this is how it shaped out for us. Like I said, compared to the climate survey, we heard wildfire, of course, wildfire and smoke were the number one pieces of feedback we got, followed by snowpack and drought and extreme heat. Not so much concerned about precipitation or wind, but definitely heat-related elements. And we had a couple of comments about climate change not being real or being debunked. So there is that sentiment in the community as well, just so you're aware. um next slide okay i will pass this off to lizzy to um go over her planning process and how she used all this information to get to where we are today awesome thank you angela before we do the planning process recap were there any questions for angela through the pi public involvement process from planning commission there's not okay

Sounds good. Thank you. We'll get right into the planning process recap. So we kind of had a three step process for updating the comprehensive plan. So the first step was reviewing the existing conditions. So looking at the existing comp plan, getting updated community data, looking at growth trends and comparing past and present conditions, looking at the urban growth area and expansions that may be needed. developing the land capacity analysis, looking at does the city of college place have enough land for future development, residential, commercial, industrial, and then identifying any key planning issues through conversations with staff. And there's a snapshot here. I think you've seen this before, but it just highlights all of the policies that were in the previous comprehensive plan and anything is green or anything in green was great and amazing. And we kept it or revise it slightly for the updated plan. And just wanted to nod to the previous group that prepared the 2019 comp plan, that there was a lot of great content we were able to incorporate in the update for 2026. And our step two was additional data collection and refining any of our findings. So looking at any information gaps or gaps that may have been in the last plan and continuing to get additional data. starting that technical analysis step and validating our findings with staff and drafting those chapters for review. And on the right here, there's just a list of the local and technical expertise groups. So planning commission, this group also discussed a lot with staff and then our technical advisory group and our CPAT, and then incorporated that feedback from the public into our draft chapter. So these five groups were super important through the drafting process. And just thank you for all of your contributions. Our final step was developing the plan. So we refined and updated the goals and policies. We drafted the chapters. And then we improved document organization. just to make sure that it was more readable for the user, and then added more color and maps and photos, and then enhanced public readability, and then incorporated stakeholder feedback through each iteration of the comp plan. So we are on to introducing comp plan draft elements. Before we go through our guided tour, just wanted to double check if... there were any questions on our process.

I think we're good.

Okay, perfect. Sounds good. Okay. So we are going to go through a guided tour. Um, and I think, uh, Jim, you weren't there for the guided tour and the tags. So, uh, for the whole thing, so you'll get, you know, a full look at the comp plan. this time so this is just a snapshot of the comp plan and i will switch screens so we have that pdf open but as a just a reminder as we go through the comp plan i want you to kind of think about these three questions does the comp plan reflect college place Have we planned for the right growth? And are we missing any big ideas? So just keep those questions in mind. I want this next part of the presentation to be collaborative. So if you have questions, raise your hand, interrupt, however, and our group will be taking notes as we go through. So just wanna make sure we don't miss anything. Okay, so let's get into the document. And can you, yep, you can still see my screen, correct?

Yes.

Yes, okay. Perfect. Thank you. And just a heads up as we are going through this, I think Michael mentioned this before the meeting started, but there are some notes in our PDF that just reflect CPAC comments, tag comments, staff comments, and just additional edits from our JV group. So if you see a green line or a blue mark somewhere, that is just an additional comment. If you're familiar with Bluebeam and the editing tools. So depending on the complexity, I might be able to make some comments live during the presentation, but we'll be doing a comprehensive update of all of the edits after this meeting once we receive any comments from Planning Commission. So welcome to the cover page of the 2026 College Place Comprehensive Plan Update. Thank you again, John and Michael for providing a ton of pictures. I think you'll be very happy with the amount of pictures and the reflection that it has for College Place. So thank you. So we will move on.

I got to say, I like the sketch of the town. I mean, there's elements in there, the water tank, obviously. And I think Rogers Bakery and the university. I'm not sure what some of the other buildings are, but yeah, that's, I like it. That's new. I hadn't seen that yet or noticed it.

Shout out to our graphics team. They are incredible. I wish I could take credit for the document design, but. That was our graphics team. So I'll have to pass that along. Um, okay. So we have our acknowledgement page, you know, um, shouting out the mayor, the council staff planning commission, this group, there's a highlight here just for a reminder internally to update the planning commission. Um, that is reflective of the current planning commission. When the plan is adopted, our historic preservation commission, they reviewed, um, the historic preservation element. Our technical advisory group, these notes here are just to include their role in the community so that a reader will have a better understanding of why that person was selected for that group. And then same for the climate policy advisory team or the CPAP. And then our table of contents. OK, so as my my plan is we will kind of quickly go through each chapter is my understanding that you got the draft comp plan um last week so it should be familiar content i don't want to bore you with you know going word by word page by page but i will just highlight any changes or any notable items in each chapter and then just leave some room for comment or questions um after each element Okay, getting into it. So we have the introduction chapter. So really just setting the framework on what is a comprehensive plan? Why do we use a comprehensive plan? How do you use a comprehensive plan? And what is included in this document with the mandatory elements? And just a highlight here, the climate change and resiliency. This is a new element that has been required with updated legislation. And then a reminder here that these optional elements, the city has elected to include Um, as part of the process. And I think there's an extra space here, so I am going to make that edit real quick. Okay. Um, and then, um, okay, moving on. So growth management act established establishes a coordinated framework on local planning practices and decisions across the state. And so these are the 15 goals that the comp plant needs to be consistent with. Um, they are in no particular order. They all carry the same weight. So one is not more important than the other. They are all important. And then looking at our strategic framework. So we wanted to call out the great work that had already been completed for College Place through the strategic plan, the 2025-2035 strategic plan. had some great focus areas here and a really great vision statement that we included just to remind the reader that you know the comp plan does have consistency with other documents that were created for college place and then a new element in the comp plan are these comp plan goal statements so these were developed um gosh i don't remember which meeting but it was you know with This group, we looked at goals and policies and kind of we made highlight goals for the community. And so these were those six or seven, six goal statements that were developed. So as you continue to go through, please double check these goal statements and make sure that they are still accurate and feel representative of the community. We have a small section on the planning process, kind of what we've shared today, and then letting the reader know that you know, coordination with other groups, um, with countywide planning policies, regional coordination with Walla Walla County, the wall, excuse me, Walla Walla County MPO. And then we have a note here to also include the city of Waitsburg and the city of Walla Walla, our neighbors. So there's, you know, we're not just creating this comp plan in a vacuum. We are, you know, looking outside of our community and, um, encouraging regional coordination. The next section is recent updates to the Growth Management Act or new legislation that has been enacted since 2019 when the last comp plan was drafted. And then we got a note from TAG to make a note on these to identify which legislation is relevant to the city of College Place. So there are some that discuss rural development that isn't necessarily relevant to College Place. So we will be making that note in this section as well. We have a map of the community and describing the physical setting of the community. We have a really in-depth, thorough history section. Thank you, historic preservation and all the efforts from the last group. I don't think they missed anything in this history. Very thorough. And then getting into demographics, so racial composition, age, households, employment, and then other demographic identifiers.

for the community and then, okay, that is the last page for the intro.

I just wanted to give a moment if there are any questions or comments on chapter one. Okay, I'm not seeing any, interrupt me if, oh, was there a comment?

I have a question. I just wanted you, just out of curiosity, when I'm looking at the demographics, so 1.3.3 and on drop on page 8, I'm seeing, is this information straight from the Census Bureau? That is correct. Okay. Would you, I don't know that you would know, but I'm seeing this is from 2024. Let me see. From what I can tell, this is from 2024, and there's white alone, there's population of two or more, Native Hawaiian, Asian, but I'm not seeing Hispanic, and I'm just curious as to why.

Yes. Yeah. And Derek, you might be able to jump in here too. The census does not provide a Hispanic option in the census. I don't know why. I think Hispanic usually falls under white or other, which I never understand it personally as someone who is also Hispanic. But that is the category that we fall under. Derek, do you have anything to add?

that's about right if they they did and then they didn't um it went back and forth so and but that yeah that's how their class that's how hispanics are classified But they discuss it each decennial cycle as to whether or not to do it. But a lot of it has to do with the... It's just the fact that they found that folks, when they did have it, it's... some they used to yeah it's just it's basically that they the hispanic population is is considered as lizzy said um but we can double check to see if there's some other sources to refine that a little bit it is standard to utilize the uh the census as the the numbers the official number for the jurisdiction

And I I knew what she was going to ask before she asked it, but I in our school district we're required also to comply with the federal coding which does the same. It might not be a bad idea to figure out that there has to be some coding that someone's putting a little asterisk under there to to to kind of not have people discredit this as being an accurate chart and acknowledging that within the white. you know, well, what does it say? White alone. It's inclusive per federal statute is inclusive of or something.

I agree. I think that clarification asterisk or something like that clarifying that.

Yeah, I'm sure it exists somewhere because we all run into it. I have to put it on our things too because people say, hey, I don't have an option.

I don't have an option.

I need and we say you have to choose this and this is why. So

yes lifelong battle i never know which but like box to check so yeah yep i made a note there so we'll make sure that note gets incorporated into the next draft thank you one other question that i i want to ask under um so on page nine under age the percentages here are this um would you know if this are year round or are this, we have a university and the university has population that's here during, you know, the academic year, but they're not residents of College Place. And so I'm curious as to if this percentages and the numbers that we're going to see throughout are based on like actual population year round or just

I can answer that. Every year, the city reports the student population that are housed in the dormitories. That's the only number that we report to them, and those are counted in our population.

Sorry, John.

No, go ahead, Derek.

All residents at the time of the census are counted, regardless of what their transient statuses um it those are snapshots and students are considered residents of the community as they're living there what makes them a little prisoners i know that's not a great nexus but also prisoners are counted in the population in like in airway heights where they have the state uh correctional facility that population is also included even though they have no interaction outside the gates of that facility it's it's so yes it does include the students and we're actually have to include the students but we may be able to add something utilizing the OFM reporting for the dormant I'm assuming that's who you send that to John OFM or is it to the census

That's our yearly reporting to OFM, but the census would be the same thing when they go around and do their census. They would have reached out to the university.

But they count them just as residents. So we can put something in there if that's something you'd like to see or kind of clarifying that.

No, no, I just, I was curious and, you know, as I look through the report and we're thinking that we need to add housing for so many people, you know, how are we thinking of the college students when we're thinking of that? You know, because if we're using those numbers, but they're not really here, they have another home, you know, with their parents, unless they're staying here after graduation, unless they're actually making college place or permanent home, how are we incorporating those numbers and making sure that we're

that we have like actual numbers so i was just curious thank you yep thank you and we actually received um that similar question or that that exact question in our tag meeting and so we um have made a note in our other elements to include that but that's a good reminder to add that you know additional note in our introduction section when we discuss uh demographics Any other questions or comments for the intro chapter? Okay, not hearing any, but feel free to interrupt or raise your hand if you have any questions as we continue. So looking at the land use chapter, so this is looking at future growth and development for College Place and how the land is used. We have our future land use and zoning district section here and just wanted to note the one change Um, from the previous plan, residential land use designation now includes single family residential and multifamily residential. Um, the prior, um, version of this had multifamily as a separate, um, uh, land use designation. So this has just been combined for, um, doing zone changes and such. Um, so it should make it easier for more dense development in the future. And the next page or two just describes the zoning districts that are provided in the table with an image of the future land use map. Just a call out here. So these areas with this like gray outline and the hatching are properties that are currently pending for UGA. There is an ongoing UGA application that John and Michael have been working on with the county. So this is a TBD on whether or not they remain or how they remain in the UGA. Just a call out there and then a map with the zoning shown. And then some language here on what the urban growth area is, what its use is, things like that. And then language on the land capacity analysis. Like I mentioned before, part of the analysis identifying if there are any, if there is an excess or a deficit in the amount of land available. So looking at that demands and needs assessment from the land capacity analysis, we are going to need an additional 1500 plus housing units. There is employment growth to be expected and some language on what that means for the urban growth area. And then we have our list of goals and policies here. I know that we've gone through them with this group, so I don't want to go through them again. But are there any other questions, comments on the land use chapter? Okay, not hearing any, we will move right along. So our next chapter is housing. So looking at projected housing needs and making sure that there are housing options for all economic segments of the population. So getting into the existing condition. So how old is our population? What is our projected growth? Looks like almost 3,500 additional residents are planned for college place by the year 2046. looking at some age distribution, um, for gender and then getting into our household characteristics. Looks like a household, uh, average household size of 2.77 with some median income, um, data points, occupancy status for the city compared to the county. It looks like we're, you know, right in alignment, right in alignment with the county. Um, looking at our housing inventory, what types of housing are available in college place. I'm sorry. And then the age of the homes and the year the structure was built, and then looking at home ownership and affordability. So looking at vacancy rates for college place for the city of Walla Walla, and then the state as a whole. Looking at the tenure and owner occupied versus renter occupied, comparing that to county data, and then looking at our future housing needs. And then that call back to the land capacity analysis that is provided in the appendix. And then looking at, based on that, just identifying housing needs and getting into the income bands. And there are some notes here just confirming, does this include students or not? So there's some additional research that our planning team needs to, you know, just to confirm how this addresses students. That was a comment that came up in our tag meeting. And then we have the, goals and policies and objectives for the housing chapter. Any questions or comments on that chapter?

Lizzie, just personally on page 20, the pie chart about the year of structure built is for me a little bit hard to understand if there's maybe another way to show a distribution horizontally or something.

Okay.

or just a histogram. But anyway, just like a small thing. But anyway, yeah, enough said, probably.

Awesome. Thank you. I appreciate that. I've been looking at this document for so long. Everything makes, you know, I understand all the graphs. So it's great to hear the perspective as someone looking at it from the first or second time. I want to make sure that it's super obvious. So I appreciate the comment, and we'll get some updates for that. incorporated any other comments questions suggestions okay hearing none we'll move on um so the next element four is the capital facilities so looking at all of the um facility or the infrastructure that is provided by college place um to serve the community So here are the buildings and facilities owned and operated by College Place and then an inventory. So a short description on what this asset is and then any future needs. So we have our city admin, public works, fire, police, parks and rec, schools, transportation, storm, wastewater, water, Yes, so those are all the assets that the city provides the community, and then just a description on what that is, and then any future needs, and then any maps or images that can accompany that section. And then our next section following an inventory is our level of service standards. So these level of service standards were pulled from existing documents or master plans created for those utilities, water system plan, this level of service is pulled from that plan. And those documents are included in the appendix for reference. And then there is some language on the capital improvement plan. So it's a long range capital improvement program planning. So that is a long range document. It's updated annually, but has a six year lookout for how infrastructure investments will be made for the community and when, and then a copy of the current CIP is included in the appendix. And then we have our goals and policies for that chapter. And that concludes the capital facilities element. Are there any questions or comments?

I'm looking at page 28 and I just, just for my own clarification, when it talks about schools and it talks about college place public, okay, so it's specific to public schools. Is there any information anywhere? Because we have more than just public schools in this city. Do we include that information elsewhere?

I don't believe that we include any private school information in the comp plan. I know that we do discuss it briefly in the parks plan that is included in the appendix. But I don't think there's anywhere else in this document that discusses private schools.

Being that this is a comprehensive plan of the city, should we think about including it? Because the private schools, they serve our community and our residents. And so I wonder if there will be value in including that information as well.

It is not normally included, partly because where do you draw the line? Usually, the comprehensive plan focuses on public assets and publicly controlled assets more so than the private sector. Colleges start getting a little strange, but generally they're not included because a private school could have 12 students, it could have 1,200 And then in that, but I mean, that's 1 reason why, but they're not generally private schools are not unless under rare circumstances when the private school is the only. Education facility available to the community generally speaking conference plans only focus on the public. Elements that are funded through taxpayer dollars. Which is why the schools, and you'll also find in, like, for example, with the water and sewer, you know, their, their city designated, um, levels of service. Whereas with the schools, it's kind of like. Whatever their plan is, um, because it's not an asset that's controlled or operated by the city, but it is somebody that works or exists adjacent to, or in collaboration with. So that's kind of why they're not in there, generally speaking, why private schools aren't included.

Okay. Thank you. Any other comments on the capital facilities element?

Okay.

Not hearing any or hearing none. We will move on to utilities. So this is the chapter similar to capital facilities, but these are all the utilities provided by other providers that are not the city of College Place. So we have our water system and the irrigation districts. We have our wastewater, stormwater, energy, so electric, natural gas, propane, telecom, solid waste with garbage and recycling, and then our goals and policies here. Pretty quick, short element on that one. Any questions or comments? Things that came up as you were reviewing the comp plan?

You said telecom, where is that one?

That is on page 41 right here. So section 5.2.5. Okay.

Thank you. Nothing further.

Okay. I will move on to transportation. So this is the element discussing street network, design, classification, level of service, bike and ped, transit, rail, aviation, anything that helps people get from one place to the other. So we have, similar to other chapters, we have our existing conditions, looking at our street system with a functional classification street network map and what each classification means for roadways. And then we have a handful of maps just providing additional information on the street network. So number of lanes, the types of traffic control, with some edits coming from staff to include the rapid beacon flashing crosswalk. Sorry, that is not the technical term, including some icons for roundabouts and then the existing all-day traffic volumes, peak volumes, and then discussion on our pedestrian sidewalk bike and transit service. So having, you know, a map of the sidewalks here, map of the transit services here. And there were some notes from, um, our tag to just provide a little bit more information on the multiple routes provided by Valley transit. So there'll, there will be a map update on this one as well. Is there a question?

Yeah. Figure six one on page 43.

Yes.

Um, just, uh, or what it's worth anecdotally, since I live in a certain area here, but the, I think it's sixth, it's not really well labeled here, but it's a, I don't know how to point this out. So there's a, there's a purple and the kind of the bottom or the side left. And, uh, there were this, the, the, uh, city boundary is with the county. They're coming up to the cemetery. Uh, is there some consideration of the flows coming in from the county down that curvy road where people like to walk and hike with very little visibility?

John, are you able to answer that question?

So it comes up to Grandview. So that sixth then? Sixth, yeah. So sixth is depicted as a white line where it's horizontal and it crosses the purple. It's a challenge to describe it verbally. But there's a there's a popular walking loop that's in the county comprises a quarter mile on each side. So it's a one nice one mile loop gets a lot of traffic. And then people access that by coming down past the cemetery around that, that bendy little thing there where there's no sidewalk. And it's anyway, I guess It's been there long enough that if it was an actual problem, we would have had reports of injuries or something by now, but it just always seems a little bit sketchy right there. I was wondering if that was under consideration for the amount of flow it gets from the county and the pedestrian traffic there.

It's the intersection of Suncrest Terrace and Grandview and 6th basically, right? At the front of the cemetery. And Grandview is a county road, Suncrest Terrace and leading up to that 6th is a city road, but they're built the county standards because we annex that road. I'm not I don't believe that's in any of our like six year tip or anything like that transportation improvement plan. Um, It's one of those areas where you have cross-jurisdictional, like, we were dealing with a complaint at the intersection there because there's that radius, there's the shrubberies and stuff. And so it was like... Which jurisdiction reaches out to the property owner to tell them they need to cut back their shrubs because we have a visibility issue going around their pedestrian safety and whatnot. But it's, it's something that. You know, we can it's I don't believe we've captured it in this plan. I don't think anybody's really thought. Much about it, so. We can look into that and see if it. Yeah, I'm not sure how we would address it.

And I will make a note here just for some internal conversations with staff and GB and it was sage crest.

Sun sun crest. And grand view.

Paris and Grandview at sixth. Okay, that will be a good note we can discuss further on next steps for including that. Thank you for that comment or question. Is there any other questions or comments on transportation?

I guess it does spark another thought, and that is whether it's permissible to use anonymous cell phone data to see where walking trails might be and how that traffic overlays with our expectations?

I mean, that would be something that I would suggest is part of an implementation of an aspect of the comprehensive plan. I'm not even sure where or how much that type of data would cost or what the legal requirements to collect or utilize that. I see the value in it. I'm just not sure exactly how that would work at this stage.

Go ahead, John.

I was just going to comment Strava's got a lot of heat map data, and I don't know if that's publicly available or how you would get permission to use that. But I also wanted to point out on page 50 of the existing sidewalk network, that section is actually called out as no sidewalk. think we are we are looking at it we are considering that we don't have sidewalks um on that section of road so good for us yeah at least that improvements need to be made yeah i know the city of walla walla uses cell phone data for their park visitation numbers um

i could talk to the director and see where they acquire that from and we could certainly you know potentially utilize it in the future but it would be a matter of cost as well so awesome i have a question on page 44 for the mileage and street functional classifications um the column of federal guidelines is that what is that is that minimum or maximum or it's just for comparison?

So these, I don't know the exact answer. So I will get a better answer than what I will be able to give you right now. But I imagine that these are like recommendations on the percentage of the type of classification of road that should be in your community. And this is how we compare to like the average or the recommendation.

Yeah, and I think this is WSDOT related and maybe we need to take a look at like how we describe that and say if it is a WSDOT standard or something or national standard, because you're allowed to have a certain amount of you're allowed to classify a certain amount of roads a certain way in your community. And we kind of move that around. You know, you have to have, like a lot of times to qualify for grants, you have to have a federally classified road to receive federal and state dollars for transportation improvement projects and things like that. So, yeah, I don't know, Derek, do you have any background in that? Or is it, do we need to rely on our transportation guy with JUB?

No, I think you guys between the two of you kind of summed that up. Well, of course, we'll double check to make sure, but that's my understanding as well, is that there's only so much, I mean, it has to do with whether you know you're not going to get freeway or expressway funding if you don't have an expressway freeway but at the same time they don't want your whole community to just be freeways and expressways so that's my understanding as well as as you guys have described it but we will confirm that and clarify

And so local access roads, like your neighborhood streets, those don't ever qualify for funding typically. So the minor arterials, principal arterials, and collectors usually will qualify. But like Derek just said, obviously, we're not going to classify a neighborhood street as a collector. I mean, we could try, but the state's going to look at that and go, You can't call all of your streets arterials so you can qualify for funding. That's not how it works.

And so my question was more like, are the federal guidelines saying that of your streets, no more than 5% should be freeway and expressways, and no more than 5% should be principal arterials? I was trying to get as to what those federal, that column means.

yeah yeah and that's that's that is our understanding but i'm one of those people that i'm very confident until you question me then i have to go and double check yeah yeah yep so we'll make sure to get that answered and make sure that there is a note in there um so that it's super obvious for the reader on what that column means thank you thank you thank you okay i think I go through the last couple of pages. Let's see, where were we? I think we were here. So just getting through the existing inventory types of transportation for this element. And then we have our level of service. So determining if a road needs to be improved or not based on the level of service A through F, or is it A through E? A through F. And then looking at transportation concurrency, we have a note to kind of define better what that means in this chapter here. And then looking at the existing level of service and how the current roadway network for college place is meeting those standards. So we have some maps here looking, you know, really good capacity and then identifying Our intersection control. So anything with a blue or any intersection with a blue dot improvements are likely needed. And then we have our demand and need. So as the community continues to grow, what does that look like for future improvements? With some discussion on our 2038 level of service analysis based on the projected growth, where are we going to be at with future improvements? And then just some maps visually describing those. So, um, those yellow circles here are proposed future intersection improvements. And then with those blue, again, you know, improvements will likely be needed at those intersections. We got a handful of comments from the tag to improve those maps a little bit, just with some additional items in the legend and things like that. Looking at our next chapter or our next section, sorry, for transportation improvements. So from that transportation improvement program, the tip. So these are the short range projects and the long range projects identified there. And then all of those improvements shown here on one map. And then looking at. the financing for transportation improvements. We have a note here, the finance director for College Place will be reviewing this section here. We can leave it to finance team to make sure that this is all accurate and up-to-date. Then we have our transportation goals, policies, and objectives. Are there any other questions or comments in that chapter in addition to what we've heard so far?

I actually, on page 63, Teagle 2, I'm wondering, and John probably need, so we're talking about you know, bicycle and pedestrian networks. I really feel like it's problematic that we're not in alignment citywide with the signals that we use for crosswalks. And I think that the universities need to be converted to the same ones. And I just think that maybe we could use this as a tool to state that one of our goals is to bring alignment to all of those. What are your thoughts, John?

I don't object to that. I think that would be a good idea.

I've just had a lot of confusion. It's funny because I've actually dealt with some of our elementary kids talking about what the difference is crossing in front of the post office and crossing at the university. And so we struggle enough with our bus systems because you can't pass a school bus, but you can pass a transit. right and so we have people blow through our school buses so i i think that if we can note that in that area there i don't know exactly where it fits um but but you talk about like you know uh maybe tt3 is probably where it goes um but but yeah i would just say alignment of a pedestrian cross signal crossing signals of some sort Do you mean like the, the white, you know, or I mean, the flashing yellow versus the red that you get at the university that turned yellow, which are inconsistent. So we now we have the lions park 1. we have the, we have the post office 1 and then we have these university ones that are are in agreement with those.

Yeah, the, the ones that we are installing now are there. Rapid flashing rectangular beacon 1, that's the terminology and then the ones that we have through the university section on college Avenue are hawk signals and everyone hates those. The hawk signals.

Yeah, and I just think that now we have a reason to say these are, these are confusing to our community and I think they're actually going to make things create confusion that will make safety an issue. So.

So, how would they work differently? I mean, they work the same, but they look different or.

Have you gone to the post office and use the crosswalk there or lions?

I've stopped for pedestrian.

Yes. So that's good.

That's a start. Yeah.

So do they press a button? Yes. Okay. So they press a button and then they post slide up like something overhead. Right.

It generally has to do with the way that the signaling changes on a Hawk signal. It starts red. Then it goes flashing red. and everybody's confused, and there's a sign usually that says, proceed on flashing red, but we're programmed not to proceed on red. And so it starts causing confusion. Whereas the guy behind me, he knows how to operate, that I'm supposed to be going. So now he's getting irritated because I'm not going. The rapid flashing beacons are the signs with the triangle, and they just flash. They don't do any of that weird transition stuff.

One of the bigger problems or a big problem is the students don't like to use them. So they just get on the street and they start walking. So they, the red, when they do use that, the red is helpful. But I think consistency is good and we should be consistent with our signage throughout the city.

Whatever we do, if we make a change, it'll have to be an engineer. design and recommendation. And I mean, I don't know that the RRFBs are the solution because there is some interaction with the signals. There's supposed to be some timing there when they hit the pedestrian button. It's all supposed to kind of work together, and then they have to follow the rules as pedestrians, which they don't.

Yeah, and that's the assumption. I just think, right, these are goals. They're not mandates. So it would be nice to have.

Yeah, so I would make the goal generic enough to consider... you know, options for making our pedestrian actuated signals more, you know, consistent or something like that.

Yeah, I like that.

And probably our transportation person could help us with that because he's going to, he might have an idea for what's suitable.

Or create an overpass or an underpass.

Yeah. He'll walk around that.

Yeah.

get that chair in your lower yeah i want to add also from personal experience those flashing yellow they do come with a warning it's a cross traffic might not stop so you have to pay attention versus those uh red traffic light you know people are so used to red don't go you know so there's that balance that come along with it

Yeah, thank you. This is a great addition to this goal. So thank you for all the feedback here. I just made a note that we'll look at, you know, this goal as a whole and figure out where best within this goal to just include some language on pedestrian crosswalk signal type consistency moving forward. Any other questions or comments on transportation? Okay. Hearing none. If you think of anything as we continue, feel free to stop and we can go back as needed. So looking at element number seven, climate change and resiliency. So this is the new element for the comp plan that you'll see from the 2019 version. So this is just establishing a policy framework to help the community prepare and respond to climate related challenges. So we have some language here on the legislative context and why this is required and what it means. We also have a note here that we need to include the Climate Commitment Act logo, the funding agency in this chapter. So we'll be adding that as well. And then getting into existing conditions, similar to other chapters, looking at the community overview and that the community really is an interrelated system of lots of different pieces. And the climate is going to touch and affect on all of those pieces. And then looking at our key climate hazards. So very similar to what we heard from our public involvement efforts and from discussing these with our CPAT. So key climate hazards include heat-related events, drought, snowpack or reduced or earlier seasonal melt, looking at flooding and the storm intensity, wildfire and those wildfire related hazards like smoke and then just severe weather such as wind and ice. You know, all of those, you know, sometimes we get multiple hazards occurring at once and that is just kind of the beauty of living in the Pacific Northwest. So we, from those key hazards, we identified our major vulnerabilities. So we have our water systems here and we are working on redrafting this section here just to make sure that we are making it more personalized for College Place and addressing the deep wells for College Place. Derek, if I miss anything, let me know. But we're going to be working very closely with Kevin in Public Works on making sure that this section is 100% accurate and really reflects college place. Looking at the built environment, so flooding and heat, all of those things are going to deteriorate our built infrastructure and our transportation system. Looking at public facilities and services, so making sure that the lower income populations or aging populations have efficient cooling and air filtration to help with those extreme heat or smoke events, looking at health and social vulnerability. So again, looking at those vulnerable populations and then economic activity and agriculture, those extreme heat events that we have can affect crop. And then if we get earlier snow melt and there's a big flood that can also deteriorate our crop. And then lastly, our natural systems. So Garrison Creek and other water resources that we have in the community. And then looking at resilience opportunities. So things that we can do as a community to ensure we are continuing to stay or improving our resiliency. So expanding water conservation programs, continuing to modernize stormwater wastewater infrastructure, access to climate controlled public space, controlled public spaces. And those spaces are not permanent. They are kind of rotating based on availability of resources in our community and then strengthening emergency preparedness and communication. investing in green infrastructure and supporting adaption in agriculture and local businesses. And then we have our climate change and resiliency goals and policies. And each goal is directly related to a key climate hazard that was identified through our CPAT and public involvement process. So we have a goal for heat, drought, flood, wildfire, and then we have infrastructure and then you know this is a newer goal that we developed through our public involvement process is preparedness and education so we wanted to make sure that the community um knew that we heard them and that we you know want to continue education preparedness any questions i know this is a new chapter so it's a lot to take in thank you uh follow up on a

a point we had discussed in a previous meeting about the possibility of gaining information from the Corps of Engineers about the condition of any flood protection systems so that we know the likelihood of or have some sense of the likelihood of protection and maybe where inundation is likely to happen if failure So is that covered under this last goal six with the awareness or is that under goal three with partnerships?

Honestly, I think it's kind of both. The mapping and all of that stuff, I see that as something that is going to be needed for and it should a lot of this would be in the uh hazard mitigation plan specifically regarding the dams and stuff like that because of the fact that it's not a city-owned asset um but it is something that affects the city so we can look in there well but uh you know as far as Larry Andrews, Once that's figured out, or you know we have that documentation or whatever available, then it's going to be. Larry Andrews, You know it's not much use if we don't get it out to the Community so that's why I say I think it falls under both and, but we could definitely do something in there to kind of like. Larry Andrews, clarify and if that were the okay first, let me make sure i'm understanding your question your question is. Can we put in some stuff from the core of engineer regarding their systems and goals with regard to making sure that. The community is aware of how they're impacted by, or if an event occurs, how they need to respond to that event.

Yeah, absolutely. The condition of those protection assets will change over time. And I think that informs both for our planning, the likelihood and maybe the consequence of that event. So that could be an input to our planning, right? So as they theoretically check the condition periodically, we maybe want to get an update. And to inform our planning, what level of risk are we exposed to? And if the flooding goes in a certain path, according to the whatever thing they, you know, the big brains that think about that stuff, then maybe we don't want to be planning to rally there and staging our supplies in the flood path, right? So it could be an input that we wanna just check periodically.

Larry Andrews, yeah and if we don't have it in there we've got to get it in there, a collaboration. Larry Andrews, policy. Larry Andrews, Because, yes, the core has to do annual probably more than annual but they have to do reports and those reports should be public information. Derek Arbogast, certain aspects of them are not going to do to security reasons, but the primary you know, like what condition or things like that should be available for public consumption so we'll look into that. Derek Arbogast, i'll make a note of that lizzie.

Lisa Wittes, awesome thanks Derek. Lisa Wittes, Any other climate related questions comments. hearing none um we got three more chapters so thank you for uh hanging in there with us so next chapter is economic development so looking at programs that define college places a college place and the role in economic development as the city continues to build a healthy economy so um you know looking at all aspects of the community from jobs infrastructure community services um you know it's all interconnected on how that plays into the economy of College Place. We have a community profile again here with a new version of the existing map from the 2019 plan, looking at business districts. And then a table here describing the industries and the timeline from 2015 to 2024. Um, that percentage, um, for education services, healthcare, and social assistance has grown over time. Um, and just highlighting that as like the top industry for college place. Um, some comments or some information data tables on employment status, the commute, um, the way that people commute, um, to work and the travel time. So it looks like about 13.2 minutes is average, uh, travel time for college place residents. looking at median household income, per capita media income, looking at the number of people that are traveling into College Place, the people that live and work in College Place, and the people that travel outside of College Place for work, looking at an updated SWOT analysis, so strengths and weaknesses, looking at the strategies from that SWOT analysis, And then looking at the role of city staff in economic development, looking at regional state and private and nonprofit partnerships, and then just building capacity through additional collaboration regionally. Looking at some economic development funding here and then metrics for monitoring some of those items in the SWOT analysis. And then we have our goals and policies here at the last couple pages here. And I love this picture. So thanks again, John and Michael. You guys did a great job providing some really great photos in this document. Any questions or comments on the economic development chapter?

i've got a quick one that maybe people will agree with or won't agree with i'm happy to go either way but for those charts that you showed employment status commute travel time on 71 and 72 they go 2024 2020 2015 uh left to right and usually i feel like you see the higher year to the right

yeah i understand what you're saying everyone seemed to agree so okay nope that's great and an easy fix so we are happy to do that no problem are these numbers for college place or this is this is this nationwide kind of like averages for communities or something for college place this is for college place

I think it's interesting that the number of people working from home has tripled in the last 10 years.

Yeah.

Okay.

And then I think, okay, I'm going to make another note here for that same formatting. Any other questions, comments on economic development? Okay, hearing none, we will move on. Okay, so parks and recreation is element number nine. Okay, my blue name is wanting us to take a little break. So while it is loading, I will just summarize this element. So the city staff, John and Michael, went through the parks and rec and open space plan process, concluding in 2024 with JUB as part of the team that developed that parks plan. And so this element in the comp plan is a high level summary of that document that is included in the appendix. So all of the goals and policies are pulled exactly from that. And then we highlight similar to the other chapters, there's an inventory chapter discussing level of service, calling out the number of park acres and trail miles that are needed to meet the standard that has been identified in the parks plan, and then going through those goals and policies. Let's see, it's still loading. So I know you have the paper copy there in front of you. Are there any questions or comments on this element?

I'm not sure I'm on the same element. I'm trying to keep up.

Element nine, yeah. My computer's frozen, so I think it begins on page 85.

All right, I guess I'm stuck in the past on page 72 and chapter 8. There was a, there's a nice heat map sort of thing about where people work. Presumably college place residents and where they go during the day. Kind of curious how we get that, but might be similar data source we could use for. Other things like walking pads or something, if it's based on some sort of aggregate.

uh telemetry on movement or something great okay um let's see okay here so you're talking about uh this map here yeah okay um so i believe that this is pulled from on the map it's an online um mapping service and i don't know If there's an option online for any like trail related aspects, can you repeat your question just a little bit more? Sorry.

Yeah, that's fine. I like the map. It's interesting. Shows people leaving college place to do work, right? And maybe the same data source could help us with other questions that we had contemplated about where the paths are. So I guess it was more of a question.

We should probably source where we're getting that map from. Maybe it's from the Bureau of Labor and Statistics. There's their mapping services or something, because it, yeah, I don't know.

Yep, we'll be sure to add that. And then, you know, we can look once we get back onto that online information source and see if there's anything related to those other aspects that we were talking about. Okay. Did you have any other economic development related questions? Oh, no.

No further questions.

Okay. Okay, great. My poor computer is a little bit frozen, but we are good. Okay. Moving on to parks, recreation and open space. I already kind of touched on this. This is a high level summary from the existing and adopted parks plan. So going through the existing conditions for parks and trails with our inventory map here of all the park facilities and then a high level chart or table here of what each park has as far as amenities go. So basketball courts, benches, pickleball courts, playgrounds, et cetera. And then an inventory of the non-motorized trail system, looking at our level of service and park need. So showing that there is a deficit in park acres and trail miles. And then, um, These are the exact goals and policies pulled from the parks plan. And there was some discussion in our tag meeting on whether or not we wanted to make any updates and, uh, per recommendation from staff that we'd like to keep these consistent. Um, so that there's, you know, not any discrepancies between the comp plan and the adopted parks plan that is, um, listed by reference in this document. Any questions or comments on parks?

I don't know how relevant this is, but on page 84, that map, Rogers, it's now just Rogers Elementary School. They dropped the rest of that name.

Okay, the Rogers Clara E? Yeah, so now it's just Rogers Elementary School.

Okay, perfect.

And yes, that is relevant information.

Yes. Yeah. Thank you. We want to make sure that we're naming things and the, you know, we do what we can, but you guys live there. So you find out those things much faster than us. So thank you.

Yeah. Thank you. Any other questions or comments on the park section? not hearing any we'll move on to our last element of the comp plan so historic preservation um really just showing the community's commitment to identify and protecting and celebrating historic cultural and archaeological resources and you know just a reminder this is an optional element so college places opted in to provide this content into the comp plan because it is an important aspect of College Place. So we have our background with a historical timeline, some language on the local commission, so the Historic Preservation Commission and the related ordinances for College Place. And then a brief section on the inventory. There was a reconnaissance and interest survey that was completed. by another firm that really identified the comprehensive list of any historic property within College Place. That document is what all this funky notes are here. We're just referencing that document in the appendix, so that will be included as part of the comprehensive plan. Then going through the goals and policies. A little bit different compared to other chapters or elements is the Historic Preservation Element has one goal with subsequent policies, and this has been reviewed by the Historic Preservation. And we actually just got some additional comments today. So there are some comments that have been coming in, and then we'll continue to update this document or this element. Are there any questions from Planning Commission on this one? Okay, I'm not hearing any. So this is the last page of the comprehensive plan. So I guess I'll just open it up to any other questions or comments on the comprehensive plan as a whole.

Rafe?

Looks like a really solid and well-polished plan. Thank you for walking us through it.

absolutely yeah and thank you to city staff um we've been a big um part of getting this document updated so wanna you know give an applause to you guys too and just so you all know you are welcome to take those home you can mark them up you can bring them back to me i'll pass along any edits that you have if you

figure something out after the meeting. And I think our drop dead deadline is going to be this Friday, Lizzie?

Correct. Yes.

So you've got a few more days if you want to pass any feedback along.

Yep. Thank you again, Planning Commission for taking the time to go through the document with us and providing comments along the way. Um, you're just a, you're a very important touch point, um, to getting this comp plan to truly reflect college place. So thank you. Um, we will move on. We've just got a few more slides in our presentation. So looking ahead next steps, um, I guess looking where we are now in the month of July, we had our tag review this document. We had our CPAT review the document. Now we have planning commission, and then John will be giving a update to city council, um, looking to. Um, August this team with staff will be doing a workshop with, um, city council to do, um, you know, a detailed review. Um, similar to what the process has been tonight through the comp plan. And then, um, we will bring an updated version to this group, the planning commission, um, at the end of August for, um, a potential recommendation for adoption. Um, and then after that recommendation, we will be sending. the updated comprehensive plan draft to the Department of Commerce, the funding agency, to do their 60-day comment review. So after that two-month process of them reviewing and making sure that we're meeting all the requirements and standards, we'll have a little bit of time to amend those comments, address any comments, make any final changes to the document, and then with a tentative plan to adopt the document in November, December, so this winter. and then it will be officially updated and that's it. Are there any questions on the timeline or expectations or things that you can anticipate over the next couple of months?

I'll just note that next month should be the last time that you guys see it, and we'll get a recommendation from you, so that will be an action item. We'll obviously need a quorum, so if you know now that you won't be able to make it, please let me know as soon as possible, and I can do my best to make sure we have a quorum present.

What date is it again?

It will be on the 18th, I believe. Let me check that. Yes, August 18th.

i would not be here and you are allowed to attend virtually oh one thing that wasn't mentioned in this last little bit of stuff is the transportation section needs to go um basically get approved by the mpo Is that correct, or have we finished that? Yeah, okay, thanks.

Yep, so during that 60-day comment period, there will be multiple agencies that will get the document for review, Commerce being the main one, but the MPO is another example of another agency that will be reviewing the document. Thank you for that clarification.

Effectively, what will happen is we will start to see comment period 60 days in advance. It will be 60 days in advance to adoption. It will then. At that same time. will air all the state agencies that have a relevance to this will be notified that it has been submitted for review, they will review and make comment the MPO the transportation. Council. They have they either will approve. or return for modification the transportation element based on whether or not it interferes with or conflicts. If it doesn't, with the regional transportation programming, if it doesn't conflict, they should sign off on it. It's not like they're sitting there judging whether or not they think you should put a road there or not. They're looking at it to make sure that proposed routes and things like that don't interrupt the regional and the larger system.

but they're really the only ones that have the actual that's the only element that gets approved or denied by a agency the rest will be recommended comments if there's any issues thank you derek um derek and and elizabeth um are we a little out of step with the planning commission recommendation happening in august um don't we need to hold a public hearing And so wouldn't, shouldn't we do that during the comment period? Yeah.

It's a neither or situation. I've, I've done it both ways. I've done that, you know, so it's because basically what we want to ship to commerce is what, we want to take to the council for final approval it's got all the recommendations and all the edits and things like that in there as much as possible um then if there's changes or things like that that occur during that six day then we will make those amendments you know and and kind of work that process so it's it's up to you how you want to work that um i have By having the hearings early, it's kind of like there's more, there's not as much of a rush, there's more ability for some back and forth. Putting it towards the end, it can get kind of tight depending on if there's comments or things and we need to come back or have material changes reviewed or new recommendations.

And I'm not opposed to having it in August. We just need to make sure that we provide public notice adequately. so maybe we might be a august or september public hearing i think either of those would work and now even a september hearing would work with our timeline would is there um do we fall back on our our typical public notice notification um that's in our code or do we have to do a 30-day public notice prior to a hearing. And maybe we can have this conversation later.

No, I'm not aware of any special, you know, it has to be remembered, the public has had plenty of opportunity to participate in this process.

Oh, I know, but there's that one guy.

But it's 14 days is pretty standard. I'm not aware of any requirement and I've never done a 30-day advance notice. In fact, 30 days is your max. You're not allowed to notice things more than 30 days out, so.

okay all right well we should be good with august then let's just stay on track okay perfect um i think that is everything that we have prepared um for tonight so thank you again john and michael and thank you planning commission for taking the time out of your evening to be here to review this plan with us. Like Michael said, if you have any additional questions, comments, concerns, edits, please send them to Michael by the end of Friday, and we can get those added to our list of things to discuss or change in the next draft that you will see next month.

Thank you.

Yep. Thank you.

Thank you. I'm going to leave here.

All right, we're going to circle back to our consent agenda. The agenda for today, July 21st is included in the consent agenda along with meeting minutes from June 16. Anybody like to make a motion?

I move to approve the consent agenda as noted.

I second.

All in favor?

Aye.

Aye. Aye. And opposed. Okay, so the consent agenda is passed. Moving on. Next item skipping over. Here we go. Do you have an update regarding the amendment applications for UGA?

The Board of County Commissioners had a workshop. What, a week ago? July July 13th, July 13th. And they went into executive session after that. And then the following day, we were notified that they had scheduled a public hearing that set for August 11th. Now, for them to consider. Or set the final docket. We were hoping that they would agree with the planning commissions recommendation to include our applications on the final docket. If there was a consensus across the 3 member board of county commissioners, they wouldn't have to hold a public hearing to set the final docket. So we are reading into this that there's not that there's that there's at least 2 of them that are not. possibly on board with putting our applications on the final docket so that means this public hearing on august 11th is possibly our only chance to actually present our applications to the board of county commissioners um so we are preparing to um to plead our case um on that date And we'll just have to see how it goes from there. If you listen to the radio, KUJ, Bob radio, I think there's two other radio stations. There are ads running by Charlie Conan, encouraging the public to tell the county commissioners that College Place has a solid plan and affordable housing's an issue and our plan's logical. Our schools are growing. That their land in our and city limits. So, um. Hopefully that applies some pressure. Um, we believe that there's, um. The way the wax are written that there are requirements that we're meeting and there are recommendations on how to meet those requirements and that was recommendation section there. is room for the county commissioners to basically use some common sense and logic into where the growth occurs in Walla Walla County. And we hope to demonstrate that we have a need.

Is there any way that we can support you in that effort?

I think you as individuals could most certainly submit as, you know, comment letters to the county commissioners that you're I mean, you can even reference that you're on the planning commission and you need to scroll. We need this allocated to us. Yeah. And even showing up at the public hearing, it's during the day at. 10 o'clock so.

And where is it held?

At the Board of County Commissioner's Office on Main Street. Do you know where the County Health Department is? No. Okay.

You know where the courthouse is? Right across the street from there.

On 6th and Main?

i'm not sure but it is uh what's the restaurant that's down the street it's near saffron okay okay so he said the board of county uh commissioners yes second floor yeah okay i can send you all the details thank you okay any any other questions about that

Thank you for the update. Thanks. All right. As previously discussed, the next regularly scheduled meeting is August 18. Last check. Any other business? Looks like not. Do we have a motion to adjourn?

My motion.

And a second? Second. All right, this meeting is concluded at 748.