County Commission - Regular Meeting
The County Commission reviewed the 2027 budget and approved various service agreements. A major discussion centered on a dilapidated property at 1608 Amanda Drive, with commissioners debating the county's legal authority to address public safety and health risks.
About this meeting
- Government Body
- County Commission
- Meeting Type
- County Commission
- Location
- Cole County, MO
- Meeting Date
- August 18, 2026
Transcript
257 sections
Okay, let's go on, let's start the meeting. It's Tuesday, August 18th, 2026, stand up for the oath of loyalty.
I swear loyalty to the flag of the United States of America and the republic that will be present, a nation under God, indivisible, with freedom and justice for all. Do you have a minister? Right here in front of me, just like in church.
Let's put a sheet for the inscriptions on the back. Yes, we have it. We have it. And now we have the reconciliation report of the Count's review. The Commissioner's Connection Committee refers to the upcoming meetings and events.
We have a meeting with the FDA and with MacBel, with the buildings tomorrow and the day after.
A bridge.
Well, tonight there is the meeting of the Catholic Association for the Youth Festival. I know that everyone will want to come.
It is the 75th anniversary of the day of Eddie Goodell of the St. Louis Browns at the Brown Stadium.
of St. Louis, so we'll do it at Strikers.
On Saturday I'm at Coscomwell and I have his children at Union Veterans.
So that's it. Presentations by staff consultants, guest guests, the courts that will present their budget for the year 2027. We will give way to everyone. By statute, the courts are held to present their balance in advance and if there are any objections, then we must resort and move on. The only condition is that, given the impacts that health insurance could have on our financing, we have not yet been able to recommend a return plan or health insurance. So the clarification is that what is presented to you today can still change as regards the tax plan and health insurance. From what I understand, Judge Green has stated that the courts will follow any tax plan and health insurance costs that we will carry out. So apart from this I will leave the floor to the guards to examine everything and there is a large crowd. So the budget must be an exciting period of the year. I will only talk about the pre-processing services. You don't know that we don't really have significant changes. We are in line with what Jay said about salaries and benefits. The actual budget request is a bit lower than what was approved last year, but it is not our creation. It seems that the bloggers' contributions have decreased a bit, which is fine. More or less everything is as before, but We are still doing a good job in recovering part of the cost of electronic monitoring that a couple of years ago fell on us only because of the changes to norm 33 and our need to let people out in freedom, in addition to the fact that the sheriff always reminds us how much his prison has been crowded. So these are the cost voices, in reality we are recovering them. So the total cost is more or less the same. Just a note, make sure to see that on the Endio part-time has still indicated the budget. It must be remembered a small vacant position that had to be divided between the pre-processual court and that of treatment. We haven't taken care of it yet. We were going to take care of it a couple of years ago. And frankly we used it as a small cover in case there was a small blur in another voice. We don't have a precise plan. We still have to work with the county to see if we can still assume for that part-time position. We got closer a couple of years ago, then there were other changes, but apart from this, it's practically the same as last year, apart from the question of the salary. So, questions? Just a few changes this time. I noticed that I offered to return 7,600 dollars for the part-time.
I would like to keep the 9,000 left in case I had to hire someone.
As you know, it is difficult for me to maintain a help of 35,000 dollars per hour. So I could have to do it, I have 35,000 a year.
So I accept it.
I would like to keep those 9,000 in case you want to go back to work part-time, but at the moment the situation is quite good. The only other additional expense was 1,000 dollars in the assistance contract for the equipment. We had to buy new printers, scanners and photocopiers. So our assistance contract for the equipment has increased a bit. Apart from this, it was a bit lower than last year.
Here to present the budget for the center. Let's start from the entry category. The differences compared to last year, the discretionary subsidy of, that is, our federal subsidy. Here 60,000 are what we expect to spend for next year. We expect to spend them next year. our subvention for food historically it was in the public schools of jefferson city when we were asked to withdraw that money inside the main center their needs were excessive and they were unmanageable with our current conditions so, good invention these are real documents in the entrance section and the voice of payment for salaries that we are asking to increase according to the plan c of the column of the studio on salaries, that is, the return plus equity in Houston with what I think the other departments are asking for. I would also like the county to consider the staff of the minority office has no right to the surf and I would like that, if there was a surfer benefit for the employees of the county, but any employee who has been in our department for 8 years, by January 1, 2027, would also receive that 4% additional. And I will be happy to discuss it with the judges or anyone who has questions. The part-time voice, there is an increase, we are increasing our lawyer for part-time delinquency, based on the number of files and the intensity of cases. Our professional voice of service.
Last year we increased the hourly rate to 75 per hour.
Based on what was expected, I increased just above that figure. That number is really out of our control. It is based only on 75 dollars per hour and then on how many cases are archived and how many hours. The lawyers bill. There is a substantial increase in insurance, which will be the estimate of the new building of 48,000 compared to the current property of 14,000.
There is an increase in our working hours.
This is our training budget. There are two specific training courses that are now required to manage our emergency unit. One is called LIMA, which deals with the supply of drugs. The other is called SCM, which deals with training on de-escalation.
We graduate from these two training courses in 5600 students.
and then the expense of 60,000 of the PR subsidy.
This is a characteristic of the fact that they have gone from 7.3 And the increase of the required salary and the foresters... Sorry. They don't do it. Yes, but the part about the foresters. Yes, it's the increase in the rate and the result of the increased required salaries. And as Tobi said, they only concern the foresters. They are not suitable for the investigation.
And so, while we work to adopt consistent measures with what the rest of the county does, since we do not receive subsidies and the employees of the county receive them once acquired after eight years, I ask you to have five employees. The same 4% is simply not standard in the budget for the workers.
And the restriction, excuse me, the restriction on subsidies for employees is mandatory by law. It is not something on which the Commission has ever voted. I want to do it.
And it was actually confirmed by the courts, until, I think, the Supreme Court confirmed that we are employees of the Court and that it is a pension fund for employees of the Commission. So we are not automatically suitable.
You are not, but you are.
So they have appointed employees who have the ability to assume, to dismiss, for our defense.
...of the... ...tribunal. I see, I understand. I imagine that the rest of the things on the Jason budget, where the new GR building will emerge, is because there will be changes. Yes, Toby told me that the hope is that the current number of employees can manage the new building. Part of this will depend on how the monitors and everything else will be arranged. but as the new insurance will be withdrawn here and in the end, if the building will not be sold immediately, we will move the insurance to our general fund, the general administrative part and everything else.
So the current building is in my budget until the end of this year. This proposed budget includes the insurance for the new building, but not for the old one.
So we could have to include it in this budget. I think it has been moved into your budget.
You know, again, it's a shot in the dark.
The best hypothesis on which users and everything else will be included in Greg's budget with the new building and the new structures. So there is always the possibility that in the future we may have to make changes to those requests and all the rest. Yes, this is the kind of things we are talking about.
Where would they have been?
The tools, the external maintenance, all this is included in Greg's maintenance budget. We will save a lot of money outside the detention, outside the county office. Thank you.
So I reduced that amount just because we are not. I know you're using sarcasm. Thank you, Jeff. I appreciate you as always. I appreciate you.
I reduced that amount because we'll be in that building just for a minute. I'm doing my best.
...evaluating the possibility of collecting benefits... ...and lodging them in other counties when we have paid for them.
Is that correct? Will they be there? We are happy to help other counties with their needs... ...and I know that such needs exist... ...depending on our population and our ability... ...to protect young people outside the county. Yes, we intend to support other minority offices as much as we can.
Yes, and I think that the standard rate in the whole state is about 80 dollars a day, plus then there is a refund of 17 reais a day that comes from the state.
Well, I have two portions here. Can we start with the security of the court? Actually, we haven't changed a thing. I would like to reiterate that if you decide to do anything with the increase in salary, our security agents of the court, with the exception of the Pagente, are all employees of the county and we would like to share it. Whatever you decide, the professional services have increased a little. You will remember that we have a contract with an external security agency. Just to put it on your radar in the long run, we would really like it to be the cheapest option at the moment, but it is not the best. We would like the question to be internal, that it was through our agents or even the sheriff, but we left things as they were. If anyone has any questions about the security of the court, I will do my best to get someone else to answer here in the classroom. last year. As for the services of the district court, we left everything more or less the same, some small improvements, maintenance of the equipment. I bought a new luxury x-ray machine just to find out that they are the only ones who repair it and that it must be reviewed every year. So that's how they take you. This is the expected cost for that one. If anyone has questions about that resolution on domestic relations, you will remember it was the subsidy on which we voted a couple of weeks ago or last week, when it was. So it's a novelty, but in reality it's a kind of passage Any other questions? I'm trying to figure out if we have something huge. I don't think we have a projectile for the institution of juries, hotels and all the rest. That case for which we thought we had to spend less money was archived. So it was a kind of bonus for us last year. Whoever else has questions, I will be happy to try them. There was a change in the state statute regarding the compensation of the judges. Are there days off when the entire crowd shows up? No. Have you talked about it? I think you can choose whether to participate or not. We did the calculations and we decided to choose the things as they were.
It was cheaper to do it that way.
And one of those things, if you have a process that lasts more than seven days, send it. in tilt the whole system. And we had, as you well know, several Mont-Saint processes of three weeks in our accounting books. Then they did not come true, but we thought that, moreover, we are not sure that the good people of the Countess of Clé would want to donate a day of their time So, fundamentally, there are no changes in their spending voices. The entry projections are the same. Again, while we go on to try to determine the cost of health insurance and the potential impacts on increases, we will carry on the issue.
My challenge to the courts, as to any other department of the county, is if you can do it without spending the entry or the expenses, please do it.
There will be an extremely limited budget in the future. But I don't have great concerns about their requests at the moment. And so we all agree that anything should be counted in terms of coal. If anything... Oh, I forgot to turn off the insurance. paid by the employees.
This is my interpretation. This is our plan for the future.
They will be treated like any other employee of the county. If there's something else we have to focus on, there's a suspension date here. That's right.
I think it's September 8th, when we'll have to present a recourse.
There's more than coffee.
Updates on the program of extension of the MU.
Good morning.
Buongiorno. Non ho il mio solito pacco di documenti per tutti voi, perché sono sicuro che avete solo un sacco di documenti più importanti che volete guardare, ma ho anche alcune informazioni, alcune date imminenti e ho anche portato con me un paio di ospiti. Una è Amanda Staff, la nostra associata del programma per i giovani, per la contea di Cole, ma anche... Saurin Staff is part of the group of civic ambassadors with four, and therefore part of this is with these young adults. They are asked to participate in the meetings of the commissioner of the county, to be a little more civic committed than the normal teenager. And so I knew he would have come here today, so I asked him to come with me. So I'll have him come up here to introduce himself and tell you a little about this civic ambassador club he's a part of.
Good morning.
I'm Saurin Stubb and I'm part of the Ambassadors for the civic commitment of Missouri, Missouri 4, What we do, as Mrs. Anderson said, is to make sure that we are a little more committed at the civic level and that is why I am here today.
I thought it would have been nice to keep us updated on the meetings of the commissioners of the county. And we also like to organize fun events at the state level, such as the four day at the capitol, which is quite self-explanatory and for each state it is called the conference for confined teenagers.
It's a fun event at the state level for the ages between 11 and 13 years old at the M.U. campus. So we...
Well, I was sitting here thinking about the different issues I deal with. Every meeting of the Commission is a bit different. Everyone chooses differently the time of the week, who comes and everything else. And I thought, oh, Saurina is pretty lucky. This is more interesting. There are more people here. She's seeing how the sausages are made. Some of the others are a little calmer. It doesn't happen much. So it's exciting. Some dates and topics I wanted to mention. We have September coming up in the next quarter. September is a very challenging month for our extension council here in the Colm county, but also my original seat in the extension before this ES model and the development of the community. And I kept my foot in that. And so we have a lot of things on the development of the community in the coming months. The Local Leadership Academy is a 10-week course. I coordinate efforts at the state level for this. If there are people in any of your outskirts who could be emerging leaders, who want to commit civically, who want to be community leaders and who want to invest in this. In general, we do it on Wednesday night for 10 weeks, but this year we are also experiencing a daily session that is held on Tuesday and Thursday during lunchtime. You can send them to me for this. We also have 100 miles a 100 days, which is a physical fitness program that our collaborators are working on for nutrition and health, where from June to September people are encouraged to go out, move and record their kilometers. and we will plan a community walk in September, to which we will invite not only our council, but also other partners of the community, elected officials, anyone to participate, a small walk of a mile around Jefferson City. And then at the end of September there is the week of the Buon Vicinato. It goes from September 28 to the beginning of October, I think October 4, in which we challenge people to exchange acts of Buon Vicinato Can it be about taking a step to someone, helping someone to cut the grass? It is an opportunity for people to commit more and to create bonds because some studies have shown that if you ask an average person to name their neighbors who live directly adjacent to all of them, not all of them necessarily succeed. And so we want people to be more connected. And then our autumn festival for the Col County Extension Council is on September 12th at Luna Park. We are taking up two positions, one with a seat here in the Col and one in the Osage. The one with a seat here in Col is a specialist for young 4H. It is a level M position that covers Col Callaway and Osage. We have information about it on the web site of the extension, on our Facebook page, anyone can contact me about it. But what we are looking for is someone who likes to work with young people and things like that. And then the one in the county of Osage is a specialist in agricultural activities. So he focuses on things like business plans for agricultural companies, succession planning, agricultural taxes, schools, all that kind of stuff. They have a place in Osage, but they don't have to live there. It was there that I originally had a place when I started working for the extension.
These are two things I care about a lot because we want more people in our team.
So these are the updates I have for all of you today.
Have you scheduled the walk? You mentioned Jeff City, but there are other community parks that we have out there. Tullson, St. Martins, Russellville come to mind. Let's not say it. I think she probably likes to be a part of it.
Yes, it would be fantastic. I need to coordinate with Cathy Deacon, our specialist, and you and I have been a bit busy in the last two weeks with our programs, so we just have to set a date and a place and we will let everyone know.
Until you manage it from the community, I'm interested.
No, we'll walk.
I thought we were on the same boat.
Well, thanks. Thanks, Elisabeth.
We'll use the regular budget.
Comments from the Commission? agreement on auction races and contracts with the schools of the city of Jefferson.
Good morning. Good morning. As you know, we have worked with the schools of the city of Jefferson to create a partnership so that their insured staff can use our rapid assistance clinic and we have defined the final details on how the bill will be and we have a common agreement. Gil has examined it, as well as the staff, and today I ask you to give me an assignment.
Are you talking about the schools of the city of Jefferson or the school district of the city of Jefferson?
It is preferable that they be called JC schools because at the beginning I had inserted the school district of the city of Jefferson in the agreement and they asked me to change it to JC schools. This doesn't cover secondary schools.
Exactly. They don't like to be called school district. It's just what they asked for.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure, you know, but they asked me to call it a secondary school. They didn't give any explanation, did they? Secondary schools could be somewhere else.
It could be, but it's an inappropriate term. I mean, I'm not taking it with you. To whom?
Larry Vincent sends the money for the tuition fees.
At the school district. At the school district.
It was only if I had entered the school district of Jefferson City, I agree.
Well, here it says district. Let's say district.
It still says district. They approved that version.
Well, then we are at...
Let's go back and delete what we just said.
I think there are some points where they asked to change the JC schools, but the agreement says that it is between us and the district.
JC schools... What are we talking about?
I would like to make a motion to sign the agreement on services between the county of Cole and the Jefferson City school district. Is there any other discussion? No? All in favor? Thank you, Chris. I agree with the fire guards of Jefferson City for assistance with self-tapping.
Greg gave it to me and it was provided to him by the fire guards of Jefferson City. In reality, the agreement is between the Countess and the city, but, you know, the tower of the clock, one of those that were called Braccia or something like that, however, has fallen. And so, and I think Riccòi may have made things a little easier, but the watchmen fire, they will take a truck with a bin and they will go there to recover it, but a couple of employees, and I don't know the details, should come with them. So this is a resignation that basically states that if your employee falls, we are not responsible. So there is a space for the city, the county office and then also two, the second page Is there room for the employees of the county that are participating in this to sign?
It is an obvious space for the commissioner-president.
No, Harry. I think it was what your child had in mind.
You took care of the clock, so I bow to you and... See Sam who gives you my permission to... The chronology of the clock?
I'm sorry? The chronology of the clock? So this is your first set. I just want to see you in this truck with chestnuts. I really want to, I want to put it on Facebook.
I'm about to say that... ...we have an official meeting of the commission and two of them can go up there. This is the ground, right? There will be a snake up there too. It fell, but not all the way to the ground. It's on a hill up there. I think we identified it through the drone. But the fire watchers will help us to recover the watch's chain.
I don't know if the chain is big, the small one.
We'll let the experts of K-watches know, up here. To see if it needs to be redone and then we'll give
A hand.
So you could go in there. There's water. I'll do an operation, I'll pick you up. Jefferson 7. The department of the firemen of the 5th. And I really appreciate the firemen. they do it because we were evaluating the cost of the rental of a group and this is wonderful on their part. So, is there any other discussion?
All in favor? Me, me.
I think it's good here.
If I'm not wrong.
So they have been doing the examinations for a while. Because they move with bad weather. This is in the west. If we have a west here, all you know is that we have a problem. It's really in the north-west, but... You're right, but I guess there are more bad times there. There aren't any.
Ok, then, let's continue.
Renewal rates of the services of the Republic for public works. Good morning.
Good morning. I spoke to the public services of the renewal rates for this year and they were able to reduce all the rates for us. So the rent of the 30 yard service with call to call will decrease by 8 months per month. The fee for the room service will decrease by 55.46 per room. The demolition will decrease by 98.6 per tonne. For the Parc de la Comté, the service rate will remain at 1,167 per month instead of increasing around 1,163. and for the 4-yard service, the service rate will decrease from 25% to 16% per month. And all this will start in September and they have managed to block the annual increases of prices of 8% to 27%. 28% instead of having to guess which one it will be.
What is the number of increases again?
Three. So I have three contracts that must only be completed.
All in favour?
I... So the road and the bridge are new, plus the recruitment rate would be 2,853. For the general entrance, the new one would be 2,884 and then the new one would be 0,539.
We haven't received any information yet.
May I come in?
Please do. Tax year 2025.
SF Pistons 2027 DTF Mustang The Drag Task Force Grant Award. This is the task force's grant.
We have presented a complete question for this and some time.
I didn't want to say cents, but since it's very close to a dollar, I just want to be sure.
So, this will be a bit of software, maintenance accessories and also some systems made for the anti-drone task force. The first for a signature, then all must have the initials at the bottom right. I'm not making this up.
50 cents for the first one. I'll do a motion. Sign the first pen. Mustang. Drag. Who is it? I want it.
Announcement on the tariffs for foresters in 2027. I sent an email last week on the new tariffs for foresters. For the general of 8.30 and then for the police passed 11.90 for the new one.
And they increased by 7.00 the other era?
For the general it was 7.00. For the police it was 10.90. So I went in.
Here's what I think. You just have to go in and die. Request for an increase in the mileage fee paid by Conterra. Good morning.
Good morning.
We received, I did not find it, someone else found it because I was late, but the State has increased the standard mileage fee for 2026 starting from 1 degree July to 76 cents a mile. Contea is currently at 70 cents, which was the tariff of 2025. In January, when we increased it to 70 cents, you said you wanted to stay closer to the state one, but this is a huge leap. So I need a decision whether we will reach 72.5, which was in force from Lungradi on June 30, or if you want to pass 76, which is the second half of 26, or a half way.
I think that in order to maintain the state budget...
It's not a high budget. We don't pay so many taxes.
It will be a couple of hundred dollars a year. And all this is the result of the IRS. When there are big increases in the cost of gasoline, sometimes they modify the tariff by half a year, and that's what the IRS did, and then the state followed
It will go down again if the price of the gas will go down in January of next year.
No. The IRS sometimes lowers it. A gas bill to increase the 20 km paid by the convoy to 76 cents. Start. From August 81st.
So let's go to the... We can do it on September 1st.
Thank you. I support the proposal. What happens if someone is already like that? I'm using September 91st. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you said 71. Did you do it? It changed.
It changed the sound. I don't have a lot of speakers in wife mode, so I didn't hear you. Let him get up. Yes, I did it. I had the conversation.
Other discussions? Thanks.
Thanks. Who's in favor? Me. Discussion on health and public safety risks in 1608 by Amanda Drive.
As you know from the email we received, it happened last year and again this year some complainants are at home in Amanda Drive.
I'll let Annan take the initiative, I think she has a presentation with some photos for you if you haven't had time to pass.
So we can have a discussion and I think there could be other people among the audience who would like to talk about it with you too. So I'll let you take the internet. Good morning. Do you want to marry me?
No, you've already pulled it up. I don't have it. It was sent to me by e-mail and I was told that it will be entered in the order of the day. to be presented today. On the contrary, don't worry about things. We can use them instead of these. If we are not late, I can find them. You will find them. You can put them here. All right. Thank you Sus. Thank you. No problem.
We give you some photos.
Wow. They are perfect. So what we are looking at here is the property in 1608 of Amanda Drive. So we received numerous complaints about this property. It was burned on February 13, 2024. Numerous complaints about tall grasslands and grasslands. The courtyard invaded the vegetation. It is practically a forest factory. You could see it from those photos. There are rodents, snakes and other wild animals. Complaints passed from mosquito Harbridge. There is a large container of flowers inside, there are a lot of caterpillar larvae inside. Waste that is blown from the inside of the house on the street and in the nearby gardens. The last complaint we received concerns the unstable structure and the fact that the walls tremble when there are strong winds or storms of the kind. There is the possibility that it falls on a neighbor, on the neighbor's house or even on the children who play in that area.
And it's just one of those things, you know, if it were to happen, the county will be responsible for it.
So we had a lot of push and pull on this in the office and trying to understand, you know, if we have jurisdiction on this house. I know we really don't have any jurisdiction when it comes to the inside of the house, but I mean, it's abandoned, it's burned. It's damaged. There are trees that grow inside the house. I mean, it's practically abandoned. But it's not. So, basically, our question is what we can do if the owner of the house has no intention of doing anything about it. So, we talked to the owner.
I see that on Friday you went door to door to him. God spoke to him.
He said he had a plan. He talked to people. However, this complaint started last year. so it was for the same thing and as I said we went back and forth to understand if we had jurisdiction over the house and since at the time we realized that it was not so we thought ok since he cut the grass in the yard on the back in the front yard we go ahead and close at the time he was facing difficulties but he explained that his wife was dead he was going through financial difficulties and other problems so we took this into account and continued to monitor Well, complaints have started to circulate and now we ask ourselves what we can do at this point. He should have participated in today's meeting. I know that Joe tried to call him a couple of minutes ago. No answer. So he's not here to defend himself. We are not sure. So what was his plan? So, his plan is to talk to, I think he said he had people in the real estate sector who had talked to An real estate agency also said that there was an appaltatore with whom he had spoken or with whom he intended to speak. He said he had already tried, but without success, he was not able to contact him, but I think one of the digging companies would have had to dig him to the ground. So he mentioned some of these things. We have seen a few movements. He cut the grass in the front courtyard. This was more or less everything. This is all. And then, of course, as I said last year, he made a nest come in, he practically cut the grass in the courtyard. So this is an annual event. But unlike the house itself, I am quite sure that the structure is much weaker than last year, you know. So again, the question is what can we do? Did the victim examine this property? I'm not sure it is. I think it was the victim. He evaluated the structure at zero. The property is valued at 50, I should say 15,000 dollars. The lot itself has no structure. As for the value, I think that with the ordinance that we adopted in January 2018, under Chapter 192 RSMO, I think, it returns to what is called the voice of abandonment. Abandoned property because without value, I think we have the authority To fix it? Or a magic trick? I never thought about it before demolishing it. And until it arrived in the center of the reactor, it didn't cost a lot of money. I put it in the next cup of mugs. It was paid for a couple of years. And of course they didn't even pay 20 euros. I understand that people have different opinions and that it is a misfortune, but the neighbors out there on both sides of the road, in reality, on the back, because there is another road behind. The whole neighborhood, in short, for two and a half years, And now it's time to do something. We completely agree.
The state law prevails on anything that is in this county ordinance. And I will read you the text of the authority that says, the state has granted to the county of Coll and to numerous other counties, for the most part of the first and second classes, The governing entity of any county described in the paragraph or one of this section can issue orders to provide for the bonification of any lot or land in which they are present, waste and debris, wood, bricks, tin, steel, parts of abandoned motorcycles, abandoned cars, abandoned trucks, abandoned idyll equipment, abandoned household appliances, broken furniture or herbivorous or harmful in subdivisions or residential districts that could endanger public safety or that are unhealthy or dangerous and declared for public use. So this is your statutory authority, so any measure you undertake must go back to this, otherwise you will probably not be able to cover the interest costs because the owner of the property will say that the law does not authorize such an action. That's all I'm saying.
Are you giving that property owner a legal counsel?
Well, as soon as I said that the owner of the property ... Ok, Henry, I'm telling you what I expect could be the consequences. So this is all I have to say. I'm at 1650 Drive.
What's your name, please? Karen Scott.
Last November, I heard something outside my house and there was a knock. It ran away after a rabbit caught it. I made a detour. I was like my dog. I don't think it came from the rush. I think it came from the back of that house. Last April, I discovered that a snake came from that area. It was a black snake, about one or two meters long, that I caught. I let it go down into the drain of the barn. I don't like having animals. I don't like having animals. So I just wanted to say it.
So, do we have legal authority or not? I mean, it's about making a decision, so we have to talk in a plenary session with legal action. But if this is the authority, I think he had enough time to understand what to do. Correctly, I mean, going forward, From where we are, yes, of course, there is also the legal aspect, that's why today I'm not listening to a debate, but a discussion to see what authority we have. We wouldn't be able to go there today and not... Exactly, exactly. And he would still have that time to do something, to get something. Let's hope he calls us back because, as I said, we tried to call him, you know, to understand why he wasn't here to say his... I think we should see if he did something. I mean, even if it was in my neighborhood, I would have problems. And you can't even enjoy your property for things like that. And we don't have an order, so we have to think about making one.
We have an order.
So, if we have an order...
Does the 193.100 permit what you read?
No, I read that there is more than one.
Statute. The Mitre 90-300 is, in the chapter, on the health of the Department of Health and, fundamentally, all it does is give local governments the power to issue orders for specific health conditions and all the rest. We use it when that general authority For example, during Covid, when the Countess approved various ordinances like... I don't remember what they were.
Yes, it gives us a public health authority to reduce the risk. So during the CO we used it when we had to issue orders to stay at home and things like that, because it's a public health authority, rather broad.
Obviously, then Judge Green. decided that some of these things are not true. But anyway, but how does it work? Then it is that it is a general capacity but then you get to the specific ways and what I read to you is in chapter 67 which concerns the government of the political subdivision of the county and the municipality and this applies to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. 8, 9, 10, 11, about a dozen counties in Missouri, in particular these counties, and establishes what you can reduce, and what I read to you is what you can reduce according to the state law.
I didn't know that the first part says structures. I know they were cars.
No, there's nothing about a structure here.
You say like garbage, bricks, wood.
And trucks, abandoned, household appliances, too grown herbs or no-chile. For example, they could eliminate all those herbs, which they often did once. Well... I'm not talking about what the department always does. Let's say that the owner got lost. Herbs.
once a year. It's not often enough.
As far as I'm concerned, the health department has the authority to do it once a month. Because the law says that you can eliminate weeds and that dirt in front of you. Every time it rains, that higher level collects moisture
And it's a paradise for lizards.
I'm not contesting anything of all this.
Well, let's make it stop being a paradise for lizards. You're talking about demolishing a structure. To say it's not a paradise for lizards. Or a paradise.
All I'm doing is just reading you what the law says. It's not my decision. It's a political decision on your part on what to do.
but I think we're looking for an advice as our legal advisor. Would you advise us to go ahead and avoid it, to act and to let it pass unnoticed?
I wouldn't.
You're saying no.
I don't think the statute allows it.
I think it was there that I needed a clarification because if it depended on me I would immediately start this payment and we will have a lot of others in the whole county because I don't think we've ever done it. And I'm not saying that we shouldn't be able to do it because I'm a jerk. You can't even enjoy your property at home. It lowers the value of my property, it's a health problem for me and it only causes me mental stress. You know... I would like... At the order of the day of the next week, a legal session, closed doors. This is one thing. I would also like us to wait a week for this to happen.
I think the owner of the property should be warned. This property must represent a health problem for the neighbors.
This means no taxes, no gambling, no rats, all this for which the health department can justify its intervention, its authority and ability to intervene. The ability to intervene should have been set by the owner. Fixed on one side. That date was today. That was the date. They received a warning of violation. One had been sent before. Well, several copies were sent last year, while we were trying to contact him. And as we said, due to his difficulties, he was granted an extension because he was granted a return. A new warning of violation has been sent. The expiration date is today.
So you were asking to send a letter today.
The visa that has been sent is not valid today. Okay. How did we send it to him? Did you order it?
Yes, pass the certificate.
And then we went to his house?
Which is the way we gave it to him last time because we sent it to several addresses.
One of the relatives actually traced his address and gave it to us and we handed it over to him last year. I would like to see his plan. And if he really had a plan, it would have been here.
So we can work with him. If he doesn't have a plan, then I think we have to do something.
And we explained it to him. So we said he should have been here to share this plan with us. So we should meet.
You know, if the plan is the illusion,
I just think that ... I mean, I'm still confused with many of these things because this, you know, our ... order ... on the order code ... It was approved in 2018. Everyone, well, you know, almost everyone, there is a majority of people here, including Jill. And I don't understand how there are more than a dozen things in this ... order that, you know, I could name. And yes, this applies to my interpretation of how we can make things be respected and what we can do. And you know, there is a danger for public safety there, you know, there are also debris and things like that. There are many things that make you think that if all this will never be there, then there is no way, you know. I didn't say this, I just...
I simply said that this, I mean that this kind of things should expand this, but you can't?
But this is the law that allows you to recover the costs of demolition. Okay. So if what you do doesn't go back into this, then you can't recover those demolitions.
So there's some trash there?
Well, I'd say that stuff in front of it is.
Have you seen that house inside? Have you ever been there?
The victim doesn't think it's a structure.
So it's not worth nothing.
If it's inside the house, there are many things that would certainly indicate that the house is not. But both things.
You can sit here and talk about the fact that the house is in the studio.
We can't just go to people's houses and throw something down that is a dry or that we think is a bad thing. We voted against the
Zonization. We don't have a zonization, so we have our hands tied in many ways. Zonization. It would have helped us to do something at the time. But only because someone has a drywall. You can't enter someone's private property and throw it down. I mean, we have to prove it.
I'm not saying it's just a drywall. It's not good. Joe, you can't even enter an island. I agree.
It's an island, but that's not the reason. And for all these other things about what's there,
Inside the property, for example, if the sheriff wants to do this, what do you need, John?
I'm sorry, I was reading about this.
You need a mandate. Okay. Sure.
Sure.
This is the point. Okay. Eliminating the whole order.
We could probably go and beat her, but maybe we won't be able to get our... ...money back.
Let's put it this way or according to the statute. I would adhere to what the statute says. I'm not saying that in the ordinance you could abolish it. I'm just saying that this is what the statute allows you to eliminate. The fact that there may be some things that you could interpret as if they allowed you to do something that the statute does not allow, the statute prevails.
We have many properties where people are half. We were not able to do anything just because our eyes
I would like to add something. The neighbor who is right next to the south of this house we are talking about, said that he had to run back some children, that we have many children who play up and down the street. He had to run back some children from the yard. He was afraid that they would hurt a little. I didn't know.
I just wanted to say it.
Now, if you have weeds everywhere, of course you can eliminate them all.
But I'm just saying that...
I don't think it's this one. I think it is. But some weeds are in the house.
And I think this was Harry's point before, on how to get rid of that infestation of rats and lizards. And I mean, all that thing is a complete structure of... You know, all kinds of things. I'm not saying it's happening, but it's absolutely plausible. Well, it's very likely. And you know, it's just that it's very dangerous. And, uh, I think it's still, I mean, there are a lot of things I could mention them one by one, and I think people would agree that this is the condition in which it is. And I'm talking about a dozen more, you know, elements. The law allows us to write an ordinance. Well, I wrote an ordinance. We adopted an ordinance. And the statute also states that any person, company, society or association that violates any of the orders or ordinances adopted is guilty of a minor offense. So now we have gone from the civilian to the potentially criminal. I think we'll go upstairs and we'll talk to the gentleman upstairs. Follow us.
And this is?
Today we don't have an answer. I don't think I have it, but... We have a directive, let's say. Let's ask the biceps to be... It's not right to ask you to be patient. But wait another year.
I would ask you for your plan of... So...
But I mean, we have to follow the correct procedure. So let's have at least a plan. If we go to this house, it will cost us more than what it cost us to demolish it. And we've had many of these problems. This is probably the first time we've really stopped. So, in depth, I think that Joe, if you have... We have received lamentation and we have never come to so much. If we have the teeth to make him do something, I think it makes a difference. Maybe he's just fooling us, he says he won't do it. You can't do anything to me, please.
This is mine. He behaves as if, you know, he behaves as if he were testing us, but let me tell you, this thing goes on for a long time. And he's... ...always becoming dangerous. Why is it dangerous?
It's dangerous for people who live nearby.
For... It could be, as he said, the first part of the complaint, you know, if the walls tremble.
Have you ever been bitten by a bat? I'm at the lake. I totally agree, but I'm just doing the devil's advocate. You know, less than 1 out of 100, but admit it. And... Oh, thank you very much. I would like us to play a game to make sure that then some of them have put me in trouble.
We already had some illusions before with the application of the code.
Not to demolish a house.
Not even to demolish a cabin. But again, if it's zero dollars, if that house is worth zero, how much does a house cost? It's really an A. It's an A. It's probably worth a negative because it will take more to beat her and put her back in a position to be able to do something about it. I live in one like that, she stayed there for twenty years.
I agree.
I'm not in disagreement with the fact that I would like to see something done about it, but I'm just saying that the angle from which we must start, we must be able to recover everything and do it legally under statutory authority.
If you're saying that the ordinance is written, but it's not really in accordance with the statute, or I think so.
But you and I went to the police station together, right? I don't care. I'll keep the bar joke. So, if we talk about it, and I think some of these things must also be done with care, because if a content arrives, we have to discuss it. I agree. Every time I talk, I talk about this. Now you said that today was the deadline. We have the right to present a request. He has the right to present a request. I enter 15 days from the personal notification of receiving a notification written through a certified post. So 15 days have passed since he received the certified letter.
You said that today... Oh, I think they gave him a month.
so surely he would have received that post. So now we can start the reduction for the things we usually do, the sweeping, the cutting of the grass and things like that. However, we probably won't do it because he managed to cut the grass in the front courtyard, which is a progress and we like to see progress. So the next step will be the courtyard on the grid. So technically we can proceed with the reduction, but above all because we still have to discuss this further. And we don't know how we're going to proceed. We're still trying to find out where the avocado is. But I'll set up a close-up session for next week. I would do some more research and then we would take some measurements.
The man got up.
We have some pending questions.
I have the tickets for the lottery, for the collection of funds of the Gold County United Way, for the distribution of air. I know what to say.
I'm just doing it in a public way that we still have some tickets left.
They cost 10 dollars each. We hope to collect 2,000 for that lottery. In the golf tournament I know that we are about 3,000 more than last year. So things are going very well for this campaign of this year, but I just wanted to say that we have tickets available if someone wanted to buy them. Thanks for the period of success. It was really good. We had fun. Is there anything else? So I would land with this. So, as we have communicated, there is a lease on arrival for some specialized vehicles of the DNR. We have worked with the buyers to develop a plan so that we can participate. Since this is a lease, I think he is looking for a kind of guide before committing funds to buy these vehicles. We have a team, some people from bronze, some people from emergency management, the team of dangerous materials, and myself, and I think maybe someone from finance. Extend an offer also to someone from the commission, or if you want to give me some money. I have no idea of a gamma price. I have no idea that you know how much these vehicles cost. We won't have any until we're in the right place. So these are used previous rates? Correct. Can you just tell me to give me the limit of X? If I could have a... I could not ask. Well, I guess this would be a question because you know that these vehicles are highly specialized. They are probably new and cost well six figures. but I have no idea what the value of the vehicle is or how much it will be sold. So if you agree with our participation, if someone gives me a reference parameter to not exceed or if you would like to read someone who comes and sign for them. So how old are they? How many kilometers approximately do we have? Here it is, a purple wave from the living. Yes, more or less. The purple wave, for those who do not know, is the way in which government agencies unload the... the... vehicles in excellence. And this is only open to public safety agencies, who would need these vehicles.
And you would also have to examine these in Braun. So we are not buying lemon.
Exactly. And I think we will be able to get to a real value of the vehicle based on what we know in the auction. However, it's one of those things in which I can't make an offer and then come to you and say, hey, I would like to spend the money for this vehicle. So, it's a rather dumb position. What date? Is it Thursday? Yes, I think it's Thursday.
Thursday at 13, this Thursday. Where is it? Exceeding bid is 79.
You are looking at a vehicle. Two vehicles would be a single vehicle. They are Ford F5550 with a modular body that can house various equipment for dangerous materials, air packs, monitoring devices. So, if you have ever looked at equipment for dangerous materials, they are full of zips. Then, you know, there are specialized equipment that are perhaps or are not included in extra vehicles, so it would be possible to distance some of them. Under certain circumstances, we will be able to respond with a smaller amount of vehicle than you know. With a large device or in difficult situations, you know that everything will be fine. So?
It's just another option.
For a little space that is literally overflowing. You're not looking at a used Mica, right? No. Similar to the dimensions of an ambulance.
I agree with where I'm looking, I feel more at ease than before... You know? I'll talk more deeply with you.
After all, I want to see what it's exactly about, what I want to get, because we're thinking of adding a vehicle of great importance. Exactly. This is through emergency services, right? Emergency services. We have subsidies. The city will pay the MEDAO.
It would be a GR purchase. So yes.
And I mean, I think it's a reasonable answer. If you prefer that we don't participate, then you know that this is the direction. I have just received numerous requests to participate in this.
I'm hesitant, but I'm not saying no.
We are adding another vehicle, we are adding insurance. There are different things. So... Maybe we also have the 911 question in the law. Maybe I can talk about it more... I don't know exactly where the police officers are, but if someone can, I'm willing to give you the authority if you set the limit to how much the authority wants. I mean, this is a unique logistics thing for our configuration because, you know, it's in real time. We don't know how it's going to end. I don't even know what the vehicles are and what the conditions are. You know, I know that at this point I'm asking for a blank assignment.
So we won't really know until the auction itself.
And when you look at them and Brown looks at them, you could say no, we don't want to. Do you get an advantage? I mean, potential buyer has a time of observation.
I think there is an hour before the beginning of the auction in which we can go out there and take a look.
So I can certainly communicate that hour. Turn on the engine, run forward. Do you know where the vehicles come from? They are DNA. They are special vehicles built for dangerous materials.
I think I should take you with me, Mr. Mr.
I would be more than happy to do it.
I'm a good ally.
I feel like I've won something. Hey, Bacon.
I'd rather you raise your hand than me.
Did you see how much I spent for that whiskey handle on Saturday night? He didn't let me go with him. Obviously this has to do with my son and at that moment I was out. So I want to take a look to see if it's necessarily an 1.8 and... So I think we found a direction. We can exchange emails if we want to set a limit if they want to accept it.
Put me on that too.
What time is the auction? Probably the auction. Yes. I think it will be at lunch.
I think it will be at 13 on Thursday.
And it will be published.
Again, my questions were if it goes back to the guidelines for purchases and the comments I heard are that it is a state surplus, which is similar to that of a state contract. I don't know if he is the ex-responsible. Appalti has problems with the fact that we buy from an auction.
I would like to examine a motion to move on to the closed doors session.
Second appeal, please.
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