Planning Board - Regular Meeting

Well, this meeting of the board of eligible spring to order. I'd like to add approval of the minutes of May 28 2026. The agenda. I got a second. All right. To it. Yeah.

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I need to approve the planning towards May 28th, 2026. Minutes of the meeting.

All in favor? Aye. Three ayes and two abstains on that. All right. Let's move on to... Our first order of business today, which is 40 Main Street's change of use retail food services. Tyler, is it Forcy? Forcy. Forcy. Yeah. Great. Welcome, Tyler.

Nice to meet you guys.

Thank you for coming. So normally, when we would first be talking about an application, we'd be down there with you. Today, we also have a public hearing for another application. So that's why we're up here. So the general purpose of this, of the pre-public is to make sure that your application is complete and kind of ready to be presented to the public in order for the public to make an informed decision about what it is you're trying to do. So they can provide informed comment to the board and the board can decide what to do about it. So most of what we're gonna be just asking for clarity and details on the application, the use, things like that. If we do get to a public hearing, then we will likely ask very similar questions, but in a public setting and primarily on behalf of the public.

And I figure this will go to my architects,

OK, great. All right, so this is Change of View. It's a formerly retail for a full service restaurant and bar with . 1,805 square feet with seating capacity for 47 people. You can hear about this. That's an entire front area.

So it's unique, right? It's the whole front area that, that faces main. And then I'm taking a portion of the office space in the back. I was kind of going to like make a walled off space just to increase my core footage slightly.

I gotcha. And, um,

So it's just existing photos, or maybe not the photo one yet, but in case you needed to see it.

Yeah, we have existing photos. And then is it basically up to where the bathroom is in the office?

So I don't know how familiar you are with it. If you go through the back, there's basically a natural... column and we're walling right from there so it's basically the kitchenette the second bathroom the kitchenette lounge area and like this little closed off office basically that leads up to I think there's a gym on the other side and then a wide open office like you know co-working space so I'm taking yeah maybe like another 500 square feet or something into the office I gotcha so basically it looks like

It's up to almost to where the door is, basically. Yeah, short of that, but yeah. Short of the door. Yeah. Maybe a few feet short, but yeah. So a couple of things we kind of need just as like some basics. We definitely would need to know kind of like where garbage is going to be situated on a site plan and where the grease trap and things like that are going to be. Do you have a sense of where those are going to be?

Not yet. I have a sense of where they're going to be. I have been talking with the guy who does the garbage for the space already. And then I talked to him about increasing the load. Basically, he does pick up for the other restaurants on the street. So I just haven't signed anything with him yet, but he can do five days a week. Yeah.

We don't need the actual contract for what it's worth. I just need to know where physically the garbage is going to be. Not saying you would do it, but if the garbage was in front of the entrance, that would be a problem. Or if it was blocking a fire door.

We have concerns about that. We have an allocated space in the kitchen for it to stay, and then five days a week it would be picked up. Maybe you can tell me where it can go. It can go on the street, though, or do I need a dumpster? Half dumpster. Okay. Because outside of that, I just don't know where they can pick up. Because outside of that co-working space, there's that little nook that Serena, I don't know if you know her, but the landlord said that we could talk about getting a dumpster there for me if that was allowed. Is that below the stairs? Below the stairs. Okay. But she said a lot of things just get taken to the street each day that it's going to be picked up in the morning. So I still have to figure that out, but I want to know what you guys prefer in the morning.

I think probably the... The main concern here is that with it being a food service, like the kind of waste and the volume of waste, I would expect to be higher than like a retail space as an example. So I think that's probably a detail that we would definitely want to have worked out. Does the code say anything specifically about a dumpster?

I'm not sure.

We haven't really come across this issue before. But I would be surprised if, I mean, I don't know where the garbage cans normally go for other businesses, but obviously it's parking.

I used to do work in the city and it's just like we have storage in the restaurant for the place and then we bring it to the street each night.

I guess do your best to come up with an answer you think is going to be to address the need. We'll do some research on our side to figure out exactly how the code sits against it and we can address it at the public hearing.

I think something that's going to protect the food waste from any rodents or something. It's a big restaurant. I think it's a fantastic idea. I think it's a great idea. So you get a lot of waste output, and we don't want to develop issues.

Could it be as simple as receptacles that are taken to the street, like bins?

I think that's what we need to research and figure out exactly where the code sits on that. I think that like, you know, the, there's, you know, for the most part, I imagine like the things we would be most concerned about are like do we think that the solution will accommodate the volume and nature of the waste, right? And so that's what we're kind of probing. So there may be a little bit of back and forth on that, but let me look at that.

There's going to be a layer of this that's the county health department too. And I don't know. I know.

It's not just in Coldstream. This is my first project where I'm a chef and owner. I

running restaurants in the city so there's there's new there's new hurdles here i'm trying to yeah so thank you for being paid yeah of course of course um we try to make this board accessible um what are you thinking about for hours of operation yeah um i think i want to operate

uh, Wednesday through Sunday, um, have to have Monday and Tuesday off. And then, because there's basically the, there's like a, a formula where if you add, you know, seven day lunches or seven day work week, then it's X amount of hired new staff. Right. So I'd love to keep a five day dinner and maybe Friday, Saturday, Sunday lunches, uh, That part's flexible. I would love a five-day dinner a week and two days off. I think that would be like a really streamlined staff in terms of labor costs.

Five-day dinner is like 4.30 or 5.00 to close.

Right. I think 4.30 would be great. I don't know if you have, are there restrictions on lateness into the night?

I don't, I think we have noise ordinances that would potentially apply. I think that

because there's a couple of because i've talked to some people who are like can you just be a little open in some of the other places because like we get out of work and things are closed so i would love to push that if i'm allowed to so that's up to you yeah i mean i think i think you know for us like the there's um there's flexibility here mostly we're just trying to make sure that

What you're planning is not going to be a nuisance for all the people who live around there. Literally right next door, you've got apartments. They will have opinions about how late and how long things go.

We do that in the city as well. I'm very empathetic of that.

Let's say ideally, what would your target be? 430 to 5 to what time?

I would love an 8.30 seating, a 9 or a 9 seating, maybe not later. Is it like 11 or 12? I think I can have staff out before midnight. It's like a nice target. If you give me more flexibility, I'll go later. That would be nice for us, but that window's fine.

How long is Ducks open? That's the thing. The bars around there are open until when they want to close, but that can be after midnight. We'd have to check the code on it, but I think you'll be okay.

I think it's a case-by-case basis for you guys. If there's concerns about, you know, if there's outdoor seating or live music, then that kind of, that might change things. But if it's just strictly indoor operations.

Yeah, because like adding seatings, like a lunch or a different day that we weren't going to be open is a change of staff, but staying open later on days that we're already off. outdoor seating here? There's not. Serena has mentioned to me, like, oh, do you want to put a couple tables outside? I assume that's its own whole coding and scenarios.

Well, one of the challenges there is about liability and ownership. So depending on the building, and it varies dramatically because it's a whole village and a lot of lines are drawn in weird places, but for the most part, the sidewalk is owned by the village.

would be something that we... It was never in my business model to do outdoor stuff. If it was so easy, it was just like, yeah, you can, then I would, but it's not essential.

Unless the lot lines extended into the sidewalk, I think probably the answer is no. That's fine, yeah.

Can I ask a question? Yeah. Kitchen hood venting. Maybe it's a question for your architects. I'm just wondering what

Well, luckily, right. Luckily, we're a single-floor building, so that's easier in terms of ductwork. But I still don't have the full – I have an MEP that is going to do the drawings of that. Right now, we don't have that person who has done the trap and the – drawings that are coming, going to be submitted to the city. That's also one of the questions I had is that, and maybe this is something that John can answer, but we think, we thought we read that you don't actually, you don't, it's not, you're not required to have a mechanical engineer in Cold Spring. We probably will for my kitchen, but I didn't know if you have to. That was something, because that will determine just sort of the level of which drawings I get from them are.

Yeah.

For this board, no. But if the building department requires it for the permits, that I don't know.

That could be. We occasionally ask for comments or analysis from engineers, civil engineers, otherwise to inform the sports decision, but that wouldn't apply here.

Yeah, because if there's... You know, like those are different expenses. If I have a mechanical engineer and he can either do the sort of rudimentary, here's where the grease trap, here's where the hoods are going to be. And then I have a design install hood guy. And so then contractor can just work off of that. But if I needed a mechanical engineer by coding. If I don't need those, I won't do that, but that's what I was waiting to sign. So that'll be the last thing that I can get you, which can be shortly.

I think the purpose of my question was more about quality of life for the neighbors. Yeah. So, you know, how can we just make sure that a neighbor's not going to be either looking at a big van, a big stack straight away, and or, you know, they open their windows on an hour like tonight and they're breathing in the restaurant fumes.

Yeah. So what's, so what's, so what is some, like, like Catherine's or, I follow that model or I'm not sure how.

I don't know. Sport is not deeply familiar with all the technical solutions out there.

Do you mind if I... Sorry.

Go ahead.

Go ahead, John. To just fill in with what Tyler doesn't know. Right now, there will be a Type 1 hood. It'll basically... you know, obviously go straight up to the roof and there'll be a fan on the roof. I think the goal is obviously to point that outlet of the fan away from any sort of operable windows and obviously potentially do some screening so that when people are looking out the windows, they're not necessarily looking at a fan, they're looking at screening. Aside from that, there will be, you know, a makeup air unit, which is just another type of fan bringing in air that we're taking out. replacing what we're taking out on the roof as well but that won't be anything any nuisance because they're usually pretty quiet and simple machines but yeah i mean the goal is not to obviously to kind of look at the site plan as a whole and figure out where the best place to kind of point the uh the duct away from any operable windows and apartments if that helps

Thanks. Just something to keep in mind. How do you hire people who really know what they're talking about so they can fill in the gaps for things? Thank you, John. No worries.

Well, the most important thing is what does the menu look like?

Oh, my God. So do you actually want to know?

Yeah.

So my family's from Italy. I'm an Italian citizen. And so we're going to it's going to be Italian leaning, but more farm to table Italian. We are planning on milling all of our own flour from Northeast grains. It's something I was doing. I don't know if you know Blue Hill at Stone Barns. It's a sort of swanky, ridiculously expensive place. But I ran the bread program there. So we were doing all Northeast regional grains milling for bread and pasta. So I'm going to do a small scale version of that, a small stone mill from Vermont. Probably extend beyond the region in terms of grains, but really highlight local farmers who all run milling. So keep everything in-house. No bleach, no white flour. Everything has the germ in it, stone milled, really good for you. And hopefully it's delicious, maybe. We'll try.

So in terms of capacity, you're planning for 47 people.

Yeah. And I mean, to be honest, that's big. That's just in the way that our kitchen made sense. That's how much space we have. We may end up wanting to turn some of that, the back part, into... necessary. Because Serena told me something about like parking relate like X amount of seats needs X amount of parking.

Yeah. So I think for the restaurant, it's big seats for thousands. So this one would be looking at like, I think it's 11 or 12.

Yeah.

Um,

But the good news is, I think for this, is that the hours make it less contended with the daytime parking.

I was hoping that would be the case. It seems like that, like it's sort of the big thing filters out when our time would be ramping up. But however, I need to navigate that.

Yeah. So the basically the path forward. potential number of parking spaces required, you have, I think, zero? Yeah. Yeah. So the paths forward on parking are, you can go to the zoning board, ask for variance, have them excuse one or more of those requirements. You can request from this board a referral to the village board in order to issue a parking waiver for one or more of the ones that are required. At the end of the day, we aren't going to be able to approve the application if all of the required spaces are not accounted for in some way, either by reducing the number of required spaces by a variance and or getting waivers for the required spaces that are there. So we will, you know, for this to move forward, one of those paths will have to be pursued. The waivers with the Village Board come with a fee, which I believe is currently $250 a space per year. Yeah, that's the minimum. Yeah. Yeah, that's what the fee schedule sets the minimum.

So most recently, the Village approved waivers for two other restaurants, and they set them at $250 a year per space for five years.

Right. Okay. Yeah. I mean, that's ideal if I can do the waiver path. Obviously, you can't create spaces that don't exist.

Yeah. So I think that when we think about parking and loading the village, we think about when is it going to be incurred, what parts of the village are going to be impacted. In particular, we have a resident parking program here, which has alleviated some of the contention between village residents and the businesses that are here because the village residents have at least some kind of pre-reserved parking within the village, which has helped to separate the issues a bit. But it's a non-trivial number of spaces. So just a heads up there. I think being... being detailed about hours of operation and like, you know, uh, what you expect the kind of typical flow of a, of a customer or a table to be.

Yeah. I mean, I guess what's how, how rigid is it of the discussion? Like I'm willing to be very flexible in terms of meeting those, those requirements, you know?

So the, the, the, the number of spaces is set by the code. So we don't have any say over how many spaces we require. Sure. The village board will have a say over granting waivers and the zoning board could have a say on granting a variant. As Jonathan noted, the village board has granted waivers to other restaurants. Recently, that is the more typical path is less common for people to pursue.

be a referral to the one part or no?

We can help with a referral to either. But yeah, we would refer you to the village board and they would ultimately make the decision. We would include a note explaining our pen and a month project and the granting of the waiver.

And what's my communication from this moment on? Is it still with Abigail? Would she help me facilitate that or who?

uh yes yes abigail abigail should be able to facilitate that and as far as the process for each of those two options so if you were to go to the zoning board for variances um you would probably adjourn here from the planning board yeah they have their own process with a public hearing and you know meetings like this and then um if they approve them you would come back here

the planning board would finish their review process if you opted to go with the waivers from the village board the planning board would probably complete their review and then make as a condition of the approval securing those waivers we would be done uh with our process with the exception of you wouldn't get our final stamp of approval until those conditions have been met so we basically would be waiting for the village board to uh pass a resolution granting the required number of waivers. Also, just as a note, like all the questions we're asking here, like I said before, there's stuff that is going to be relevant from public hearing. So if you want to prep materials that re-answers a lot of the things we're asking, it would be a good idea. Any other questions from folks?

What is your anticipated opening date?

Yeah, I don't know how long of a process, like what kind of weight am I looking at in terms of permits? You know, I have my whole team. I think we'll be open by the fall. We are later than I thought we would be in terms of this point. So I assume that can be pushed back. I obviously want to be open for the spring, summer, fall of next year, you know, when it really gets crazy. But I think we're still aiming at...

super long and what that yeah unfortunately the we're a volunteer board so we try to be efficient we we we meet twice a month uh if we can achieve quorum most part we do um we try to move expediently through applications while still doing our diligence for the for the village um every additional stop you have to make with the municipality will extend the time so if you have to go the village board it will take time to get on their agenda and it'll take time for them to consider it'll take time for them to prove i'll take time for that yeah so um i think like you know uh with with zero promises just to kind of give give you a timeline i would be surprised if you could be all the way through uh approvals to the to the back back from the um from the um the building um uh inspector I'd be shocked if it was in less than two months.

Everyone is trying to operate in good faith and move as quickly as possible. We want to do this. We want to do it right. I obviously have to go through the way it works.

Any other questions? Is there any planned signage?

Yeah, I was going to bring that up. You didn't. I know about the historical board. Signage and a new door. I don't think we're going to do any actual changes to the facade of the building, but definitely there's a rail already in place to hang a sign and changing out the door. So I don't know if that

think the hanging sign would mean yeah yeah we haven't finished those uh my like branding team that has we don't have those markups yet but i'll but if there's a i need a referral to them from these guys then i don't think we would we wouldn't we don't like abigail can uh can can help connect those but um I think that, like, usually what we do, assuming that's the path, there are paths that don't require them. They're like, you know, people put letters in their windows, stuff like that. But something like that that's exterior and shooting from the building almost certainly needs HTLB approval.

I think the door will, too.

Yeah. Or the door change, yeah.

like that you want to get you yeah yeah the point where you know that these things so there'll be another condition of an initial approval we just say okay well assuming the hdrb approves of the signage then the planning board is fine with the plan and then can i ask you about um deliveries is there a spot for deliveries is it down the alley or i know we haven't figured that out well i guess i i haven't figured there there was a discussion about maybe delivering through the uh through the office spaces in the back but i think it makes sense to just have that we i think we've landed on just to keep those separate and wall it off um and deliveries will just come into the front okay all right now i see this is early on the front yeah you have for a place yeah i the only reason i asked that is because if it's down the alley you got to see how that might impact yeah also there might be a lighting issue with that but if it's going to be through the front door then i don't Yeah, but we just would need to know if it was going down the alley. Yeah. Okay. I would say no. Okay, great. Thank you.

And how do you pronounce the name of the restaurant?

Umarel. Umarel. It's like a slang word in Bologna for like men that offer unwanted advice. It's basically like my dad. has been like mansplaining yeah but it's like it's an enduring term there where it's like old men in hats that are like standing around construction sites and kind of telling them what to do so it's kind of like you know i live i i've grown up with a lot of those guys so i'm sort of turning it into something tongue-in-cheek about it all right good luck with this i think it's a great idea yeah we're psyched out man we love this town from the city. Are you a village resident?

I don't know if it's a village.

We're nine minutes away, right on the border of Fishkill, over on... The borders of the village are actually shockingly tight. I saw that, yeah. It's a cold spring mailing address.

Yeah, it's greater Phyllis town. Okay, we just need to schedule a Public hearing.

Are we at the point of public hearing? I said, are we at that point?

Unless you have other questions.

But the amount of stuff that they might have to submit. But I think, you know, I'm fine with scheduling it.

Is there anything in particular you're worried about?

No, not particularly, no.

about that, too.

I will not be here in two weeks. Despite the fact I said I was making myself available all summer, I have to be out of town. I'm so sorry.

I'm not going to be here. I am not here the 9th of July.

I could be.

But I am the 23rd. But I am here on

Thursday, but he's not going to be able to get published in the paper anyway, right?

It's usually a pretty tight turnaround time for Abigail anyway, so it probably makes more sense to go with the July meeting, assuming we're going to have at least three for that.

I'll be here. That's three of us.

That's July 9th. Oh, it's the 9th? Okay. It's up to Jesse. What's a quarter? Three of us. Three of us.

I think I'm here.

Let's go ahead and schedule it.

And if for some reason we can't

will be scheduled. Would someone like to make a motion to schedule the public hearing for the main change of views to July 9?

I'll make a proposal to schedule the public hearing for 40 May for July 9.

Second.

All in favor?

Aye. July 9 for this. So Abigail will help walk you through what needs to happen between now and then. Yeah. Basically, we're going to publish a notice in the paper of record, which I think is the Kipfe Journal.

Yeah, you've got a different – I had to do that with forming the LLC in a couple places, but you think those will be your publications, it might be.

Abigail will take it. We'll do that. And then we will need you to send out certified mail notifications to all the neighbors. Cool.

And just so everyone's on the same page as far as the action items for the next meeting. So I guess it would be showing the garbage on the plan and having some direction on parking.

And if you can get clarity on the grease trap between now and then, that would be. It will. I wanted to chat with you guys. Yeah. Yeah.

That'll be part of it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What's up? What's that appropriate?

method to show the garbage.

On the site plan, you can draw it in. Literally, we just need to know. I'll be able to understand.

We can help with that.

Professional drawers.

My wife does say that I went to coloring school.

Thank you. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Thank you guys. Thanks, John. Thanks. All right, well, we can, I think we can move on to our public hearing.

Get my sense. We're over here.

You don't have to stay. I don't know the rule. You're happy to go. The cold spring will never be hungry. That's your whole thing.

All right, can I get a motion to open the public hearing?

Motion to open the public hearing on 167 Main Street, change of use.

Second.

All in favor?

Aye. OK. I want to read the notice of the public hearing into the record. It's a slightly abbreviated version, just so we know what we're talking about here. Please take notice that the Planning Board of the Village of Cold Spring will hold a public hearing for so on to 134-16-1B and 134-17-M of Village Law on Thursday, June 11th at Village Hall, B-5 Main Street, Cold Spring, New York, and via videoconference at 7 p.m. Members of the public are invited to attend the meeting in person or via videoconference. The Planning Board will consider the application by Chris Tarrin, The property owner is Joseph Morelka. The subject property designated 48.8-6-16, 167 Main Street, Cold Spring, New York, in the B1 district, as well as the village's historic district. The applicant proposed a change of use from retail to hair salon, barber shop, more specifically, The planning board will consider all verbal and or written statements from all persons interested in the proposed application in various, and as described above, the planning board will also consider such relief, such further relief as it finds necessary. All right. I think we have a couple more questions here. Has the notice been timely published in the official newspaper?

Yes.

I think the answer is maybe no at this time.

Okay. How I understood it was it would be okay as long as it was held open.

Yes.

So no at this time. That's correct.

Yeah.

Okay.

No. So despite our best efforts, the publication did not appear in the requisite tenets before. But we have to wait on the county approval anyway, so we're just going to hold the public hearing open after that. All right. Has the applicant provided proof of mailing to affected parties? Let's see what we've got. Certified public mail. Adam, did we get a sense of how one of our board members got left off of this list?

That was my fault. I thought it was a part of another address for 1-7-8. Okay. I'm glad it was you, though.

Yeah, it's no problem about not being notified because I was notified via this meeting, so I'm okay with that. I just want to know how that was and that I didn't get one in.

Thanks.

What do you want us to look through these?

You're doing a good job. Throw them all in my mind, but I saw one. Okay.

Um, uh, we have an affidavit of signage.

Okay.

Um, I think, has the Village Corp received any comments from the public, either in writing, email, or in person? We have one. Do you print it off? Any others? I'm not sure we said so last time, but I believe this is the Type 2 action under secret. That does not require any additional further environmental review. All right, Chris, would you mind describing the project?

It's going to be a place for air. Yeah, just cleaning people up, serving the community, Hudson Valley.

And so we're changing from retail store to barbershop. You're going to have three chairs. The goal is three, but probably starting with two. Starting with two. Okay. And did you make a decision on the signage? We did not make a decision.

I think we're going to wait until after everything's done. Okay.

Great. I think that, you know, letters in the window, perfectly acceptable as a short term, or not short term, but just as a by right. Okay.

And your hours of operations? of right now, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, 8.30 to 6, 6.30.

Yes, 8.30 a.m. to 6.30 p.m. And I believe this is within 500 feet of Route 9. Yeah. So it requires referrals to the county.

Correct, yeah.

Abigail, did we make that referral? Yeah. OK. What was the date that you made the referral?

Wednesday, this past Thursday.

So that would have been like the 8th. OK. Well, that's good timing for our next meeting. OK. And I think you were saying before, you were expecting like, you know, maximum, like, what, a couple of people an hour kind of coming through? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Two people an hour. So, yeah, 12 to 15-ish. Okay. Yep. Okay.

All right. I'll open the... Actually, would someone like to make a motion to open the meeting to public comment?

I'll make a motion to open public comments on 167 Main Street. Second. All right.

I'll feel it.

All right. All right. All right. So public comments. Names and addresses for the record. Questions addressed to the board, not the applicant. And I will go ahead and read the one written comment that we have. This is from Trevor Knight at 17 Marion Ave. Hello, just a short comment for the planning board for the public hearing of 167 Main Street. I just wanted to speak in favor of the change of lease application. to allow the barbershop. Even the seven years I've lived in Cold Spring, I've seen the devastating loss of businesses that cater to the needs of actual residents of the village. The planning board is one way the village can encourage businesses that care about weekdays at village residents and aren't just scalping tourists. Please approve this change of use application. Thank you, Trevor. Would anyone in the room like to make a comment about this application? Would anyone online like to make a public comment about this application? Would you like to state your name and address for the record?

I live on Box Street. I have a business on Main Street. And I'd like to tell new businesses there are a lot of people doing the work. don't wait till Friday when there's a distressed parking. Mondays and Thursdays can be really active days.

Thank you. Liz, do you have any comment online? Okay. All right. Well, I think given that we're waiting for the county and when our notice is published, I think we should make a motion to adjourn public hearing until next time.

I'll make a motion to adjourn public hearing until the July 9th meeting. All in favor?

Second. Second. And all in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye.

Really quick, for July 9th, can we be on Zoom for that meeting?

Because we're actually going to be driving back from being out of town.

Don't drive while you're... Yes, remote presence is perfectly acceptable. We may be back by that time. I hope you have a lovely trip and a safe time. All right. You're welcome to do so many questions.

OK. Thank you.

OK. What does the county speak up about?

They basically can make, they're allowed to give comments about changes of use that are near, that are near the

Thank you. Thank you. I didn't say.

The garbage is really important on that block.

Yeah.

It's close to the river.

Yeah.

And there are people don't always understand that Cold Spring is a village in the country. And I think there might even be a skunk on the front.

Yeah.

We had one in the backyard two weeks ago. Yeah.

It's a beautiful one. Beautiful. Thank you. Thank you.

Okay. Now on to core business. We have a draft from Ben on response to the comments from the HHS. Our statement with respect to HHFT's response to our questions with respect to TGEIS.

So if I could just interrupt. I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, and if anyone would like to speak, please feel free. But I just want to make sure that everyone realizes that the ship has pretty much sailed.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We understand.

The ship has sailed, and we're waving at it.

Well, a little more than that.

But yeah. I think the reason for this was, and if we want to throw it out, that's fine. I'm not going to die. But it was just that we are expressing how documenting our thoughts, feelings, objections to, you know, like we made comments, they made responses, and this is our statement on their to their responses. Yeah, absolutely. If it's invaluable, then that's not a waste of time. If you think that it could be, just to have something there. As of this date, we're going to mark as of this date, this was the shared view of the planning board.

Yeah, I mean, it's up to you guys. If you feel like it's important to say what you have to say, then by all means, feel free. But the Fiord Trail has made their final decision on secret for the trail and the village has filed a lawsuit challenging that. So it's kind of with the courts at this point. But there's nothing that says that you guys can't make a statement if you think that's important as planning partners.

Well, I was in favor of the statement. I sort of feel like it's not like we're just, they said something and we're just sitting back going, oh, okay. I sort of felt we should at least comment, even though, as you said, it's not going to change anything. At least we're showing some, you know, we're being proactive, if you will.

Yeah. Why don't we take a moment to read over the draft and give feedback.

Okay.

Thank you.

It's really good. Thanks. I think the only, the only paragraph that I'm, I think I've got questions on is segmentation. Can you say more about that? I'm not entirely following.

I mean, they were some of our questions and he was, I mean, maybe it's outside of the scope of the village, but it's, but it's, it's not in that the, HHMT or the DGIS has cherry picked, obviously, you know, in my opinion, my opinion, they've cherry picked and gone in and segmented this the way they would like, which is not seeing this project as a contiguous six and a half, seven and a half mile project. So does that impact us directly? It does not. But the process is broken. So we can remove that paragraph because I think that it's less relevant.

Yeah, I think, I think that like, I think it makes it a little tighter personally. And one thing that I think for here, and we're not going to be here next time. And so this is actually going to be your last meeting. I think it would be lovely if we could adopt with maybe some small modifications to this so that your name can be on it. It can be published and, and we as a board can, can kind of do one last, So say we all. Assuming so say we all.

So let's just, should we just remove that? Do you feel okay with what we're doing now?

Does anyone feel strongly about leaving that in? No.

That's the foremost amongst these concerns all the way through to environmental than a unified review. So just that paragraph is chopped out.

Any other modifications or suggestions from the crew?

No. Can I just ask, I guess the underlying passage is for highlight that more so than everything else in the report? Do you feel like, or in your comments, that more You're just, why the timeline? As opposed to, like, is this something that you feel is much more, you know.

I think that it just, it speaks to the really, like, one of the most practical and derogatory impacts, and that is, you know, economics and quality of life for our emergency responders. And I see that as being one of the biggest challenges, that basically there are going to be additional burdens placed on the village without any to my knowledge unless unless offers you know things of like substantial satisfactory offices have come across the table of trustees which i don't believe they have right um that that's not being being addressed i mean everything is important otherwise that's what i was going to say i do feel that i mean i think it's very well done and i do think everything and there might be people that think some things are more important than others so i would just

not really highlight that this is more important. I don't know if anybody else feels it, because I do feel that some people might think, and we have, you know, the ecological things are very important as well. So I think all of it is important. So that's the only comment that I would make, that I would just take that out.

Yeah, okay.

Leave the wording in, but just not emphasize it as much.

On underline. Right, yeah. Besides, you start with highlights anyway, right? No underline, right. No, but I am the first.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, correct.

Did we want to say anything about traffic?

I mean, just going back, that's a good point. If you wanted to put more of a bullet of that specific and put that right up at the top, you know, I'd be okay with that too. But it's kind of part of what your additional strain burden on there is. That really sets the...

I mean, maybe I did it in a clumsy way, but the foot of... operational costs of running the village given a marked increase in tourist visitations, sanitation, bathrooms, road maintenance, and food.

Right, so that's in that stuff. And then the additional strengths of both of those. Yeah, right up at the top. So yeah, I think we don't need to. Cool.

At least put a line in there.

Sorry? Maybe I missed it. the additional things that might be the timing but you did say that there's when there's visitation to the the bike pause or maybe maybe i just in my head i thought yeah that would be increased drive maybe that's because it says pressure is on here pressure's on park where is that in the underlined uh oh the underlying okay but you could also say maybe just add traffic and parking Parking increased traffic, maybe. Where is that? Where are you? We're on the other line part. However, residents have already experienced substantial pressures on parking.

And we had parking and traffic.

I wanted to say parking, traffic, sanitation service.

Parking, traffic, what was he saying?

Sorry, I was just adding traffic, yeah.

After parking, come on up.

Good, cool.

Any other notes?

Thank you so much for doing this.

I'm sorry about earlier, but since I've been super busy, I've just been swamped. Good work. Cool. All right, so I'm going to give these, Abigail, I'm just going to give you the notes.

We have to vote with notes, right? Yeah. So what we'll do is I have the amended one, so we can say we can approve it as amended to be placed on the Village website in the plan award section. And we'll just leave it to you to send an amended version as approved to Abigail.

So sorry, what was the process again?

So we'll vote to adopt. So I have made these modifications here. So these are the ones we're voting on. And if we get three yeas, then you can make the modifications as proposed, put everyone's name.

Yeah, and that's what I was going to say. It's a bottom. Should it be just Ben?

It'll be all who sign off. OK. Make a motion. Yeah, please make a motion.

To approve the draft for the planning board statement to the HHS. FT responses to Village of Cold Spring Commons with the amended with the changes that is noted.

All in favor?

Aye.

Thanks again, Ben.

Thank you. So I guess we're just going to put all of our names just underneath that. And we're okay with doing that.

Just what would we put? Village planning board and then our names. Yes.

Okay, so here's the as amended record.

Do you think you're good? I'll give it to Abigail.

Abigail, here's to the two. I'm going to miss you guys. I'm happy about this. You're going to have it. Michael Bresalier, You know, the group and.

Michael Bresalier, A digital copy of. Michael Bresalier, The in front of the planning board. Michael Bresalier, Marathon site.

Michael Bresalier, I honestly don't think.

Michael Bresalier, you're gonna come back and.

Michael Bresalier, From July. Michael Bresalier, I. Michael Bresalier, Oh, my gosh.

Michael Bresalier, Any fun travels as part of the your projects.

I don't know if it's in the code or not, but should we close the meeting? Probably should.

Move to adjourn this meeting. Second. All in favor?

Aye.

No, I was just going to say, I don't know what the code says, but if it allows.