Board of Zoning Appeals - Regular Meeting

We can we're going to start our meeting. Mr. Mayor,

we're going to call the meeting of the board of zoning appeals September 18th, 2025 to order. Has everyone had a chance to look at the minutes? I make a motion to approve the minutes. Tim made a motion to approve the minutes. Do I hear a second? I second. All we'll proceed to vote. All in favor say I. I. I. And Mr. Chairman, before you ask for the approval of agenda, I would like to uh amend the agenda to or I would like to make a motion to unt 170 Hendricks Lane. that we tabled at the last meeting because there was no one here.

Okay. And there's somebody here representing that now. Okay. Well, a motion's been made to unt and that's that's changing the agenda to what, Tim? To put Hendrick. It is on the agenda, but it needs to be voted on to be put back on there because we tabled it. It's a variance request uh for five acres at 170 Hendricks Lane. Okay. and we're bringing it off the table. So, motion's been made to on the approval of the agenda. Motion's been made to untend Lane. Do I hear a second? I'll second. Been second by Anna. All in favor say I. I.

I. All those opposed. So, it is brought back up up for thing. Anything else on the approval of the agenda? I hear a motion to approve the agenda. I'll make a motion to approve. Motion been made to approve. There is a second. I'll second. Second. All in favor say I. I.

Any opposed? Okay. We're moving on to um public comments and during the borders on appeals we have chose to make the public comments at the after the presentation of each request. So if we can keep them at that time first item of business variance request 5 acre minimum A1 170 Hendricks Lane M. Is there someone here to present for Mr. Hendricks? Okay, turn that on. Yes.

Yes, I did. Thank you very much.

Evening everyone. Um Nicholas Northcut. I am representing the Hendricks on this and um basically the long and short is on this is the Hendrises are seeking a variance on the 5 acre minimum to be able to carve off one acre um for his son to build uh roughly in the area that I've got highlighted. Um there's a pond kind of there in that little wooded area on the east line and they're wanting to cut an acre off and put his house up behind that pond and then uh access it with an easement. Um so they're hoping to be able to get the variance as they're going to be uh carving it off and conveying it to family. So, um,

um, he really didn't want to have to do the five acres and and so they're seeking y'all's approval to be able to carve an acre off in that field back there. Why is he wanting to do an easement instead of a right or giving him um direct a direct driveway to that? They they Oh, pardon me. Oh, go ahead. So, I'm actually going to give him rope frontage 50 foot and go ahead and just let him go all the way back. But the stipulation is in the writing for me giving it to him is he's got to if anything happens to my father-in-law or anything, it comes back to me. No selling it, no nothing. Okay?

We're putting it in the language for lawyer, however, however we got to do it that it comes back to me because he's going to help us with our our kids and help us bush hoging and farm animals and all this other stuff. Wow. Me and my wife work full-time, so we don't have any daycare. So, we're taking care of our daughter by herself and our son and we don't have no help. So, he got to drive an hour down here to help me bush hog, mow, and all this stuff. So, it's much easier for him to just be on the property, step out the door, go help bush hog, take care of the cattle, take care of the goat, take care of the chickens, rather than driving an hour from Murphy'sboro, getting stuck in traffic. And who knows what happens on 24. I drive it every day going 11. Yeah.

And that traffic's crazy. So, we're hoping to get him in Manchester, carve out the land and so he can live here and help us with the grandkids and but but the question I have is why why are you doing an easement instead of giving I'm going to give him road frontage? You're going to give him road frontage 50 foot? Yes. Okay. Alongside the house right there that says 2701 I believe right along that going straight back right behind that little pond is right here. Yes, that's correct. Okay. And he'll be there's a fence row and right before that fence row, it's going to be acre to acre and a half because of the given 50 foot of road frontage.

So this is your father-in-law, not your Okay. I thought he said okay. I was thinking. Okay. It's your father-in-law. So in the deed when he passes the land reverts back to you. I don't want to do the five acres. Understand? because I worked my whole life to get all this land and now it's just me and my wife are having kids and we need help. We don't want to do daycare because one we can't afford daycare no more. So that's the reason why we're trying to carve out just anger anger have his plan is to sell his house in Murboro move down here build a small house where he's debtree and hopefully can retire without any issues and that's his family.

Yes. So, so on this map right here, you'll take and come up 50 foot right here and then cut over down that 50 foot. Right. It don't matter where he drives. Yeah, I I get that. But but the 50 foot access would be right there. Correct. Yeah. Right where that two blue lines are. Right in that area. Okay. Well, then you would landlock this is what the problem is. But that's going to be his too. I'm cutting out all that because like you said landlock. I'm going to cut out all that and his house will be all right. I I just wanted to clarify that. So that way we didn't create a future problem.

No. And that's one reason why we didn't do the thought about doing the other easement. That way I knew he couldn't do nothing. But we're just going to go ahead and put in language that it reverts back to us if anything does happen. Is there anybody here to speak on the other side? Anybody to object or comments comments on this? Do you have anything else you want to That's That's pretty much it. Okay.

Like I said, he just trying to get him down here because he's the only family we have in Middle Tennessee. We're from West Tennessee. We moved up here in 2017 and I worked at Nissan for a little bit and then I went to another job and living in. So, that's one reason why he's our only family we have up here. Don't have any other family up here. So, he's the only one that can help. Okay. Well, since this is Yeah, this is his family and and the verbiage is going to go into the deed that way, I make the motion that we accept this variance because it's family and it's going to be deed. It'll come back to him and I'll second.

Motion's been made and properly second by Mr. Duke that we accept. Any other discussion? Do I need to give you the numbers? Uh yes. Okay. If you've got them there,

have you got

it's I think it's D1 shall be granted only where special circumstances or conditions fully described in the finding of the board do not. Yes. Okay. And because it is family and it does say that in the variance part of it that you can carve off. That'll be another citizen here in Coffee County. Productive citizen. He's helping with his family. He's helping to do all that. You got a good daddy-in-law.

Motion's been made properly second. And uh the standards for variances have been read and cited. Any other discussion? We'll proceed to vote. All in favor say I. I. All opposed. Passes. Thank you. You need these sheets. Okay. No, that's Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. Variance request 5acre minimum in A1 1468 Kathy Ridge Road. John Hodgej is someone here to present. Okay.

Okay. You came before us before, correct? Mr. Okay. Yeah. He he bought it's a little tore up. Yeah. Did he buy the acreage and make it five and five? No, we want to go with like that. We started this project in March. He sold the north property to Mr. Bro, his neighbor, 40 something acres. He'd have kept enough if we knew, but we turned it in a day late when the rules changed, but nobody told told us, you know, we tried to got in there earlier, but we can, you know, if we need acre, we get it, but you couldn't use this straight off hollow. So, he just likes a little he his house is the brick house, and he's he sold that land. And he wants to buy a new double wide

and put it on that other piece for him and his wife to live out the rest of their life. A lot too. Yeah. Okay. And he's got two soil sites. Got one in a backup. Okay. And I understand he just going he's not going to rent that house out. It's just storage. He's I think he's got a lot of stuff in it already. So this is going to be the new area right here. This is existing house. The double wide to set just off back of that one soil sight cuz right behind there it starts dropping off quick. It's hillside. It does. It's bluff. And you see that pipe down there we got in there? You can walk. You can stand up and walk through that. That's how big that is. And you say the house that he's not going to rent out. Not going to No, he's just got it full of stuff.

The best I remember. Now, help me remember this. He said that the house was the dipated. Yeah. It's in bad shape. It's in bad. And he sold that land buy. He's done bought the double wide. Yeah. Is he living in this house right now? Yeah, he is. But he's not going to It's not going to be a rental. No, he he said it he just going to use it for storage. Okay. The rideway did go on up further, but Benton dedicated 30 out of the center because they ain't going to do nothing with up there. was the rightway was a little bit higher, but he they had done it across the road, so he done it on that side, too.

No, that's good. I got a pretty good idea. He was out here early, but I got him talked him into going home. He He got tore up. Oh, he did. Quick. And And I hate it. I hate it that they don't not everyone understands the process. I tried to tell him yet. Okay.

You know, we know the rules change. He'd have kept enough acreage. You know, we was a day late. We understand that too. I think that goes under D1 also. myself. It's near me and Kendall, too. Yeah. And I don't see a problem with it. So, I I'll make the motion under D1. Mr. Morris has made the motion to accept. And I did talk to Lonnie. He will sign it. I I They had the drawings all week and I went and got them so I could bring them tonight.

Okay. But Lonnie, I guess since Mr. Perry retired or resigned. He said he would sign that. Okay. I just had to pick him up. He didn't get a chance to sign. I'll make a second on Kendall's made a second. Whan bought all that backside off of it. Yeah. Almost 48. And it's it's hilly. Yeah. They had a fire in there last year. Really? Yeah. Off in there. They had fire department on top. fire department on bottom and everywhere down through there behind while them bros is truck corner of Ky Ridge Pidge.

Y'all were north. Y'all were out there. Y'all had tankers sitting on top of the Parkers up there. Yeah, we were up there. Yeah, you I didn't want to go down there to bottom. I bet. It's a dully. Motion's been made and properly second to accept. Is there any further discussion on this? And if you don't mind, go ahead and read the variance again, standard for variance, so we can put it in the minutes, please. It falls under D1.

D1, which is the variance shall be granted only where special circumstances or conditions fully described in the finding of the board do not apply generally in the district. Okay. Thank you. Any further discussion? He's only about 710 of an acre short of five. Not much. Yes, sir. And I think three D3 even applies too. So you want to put D3. If you want to read D3, that would be fine. A long one. Go ahead.

For reasons fully set forth in the findings of the board, the afor circumstances or conditions are such that the district the strict application of the provisions of this resolution would deprive the applicant of any reasonable use of his land. Mere loss in value shall not justify variance. There must be a deprivation of beneficial use of land. So we're allowing him to use his land as seaf fit. Any further discussion? All in favor say I. I. I. All opposed.

It passes and I didn't. Yeah, you need your surveys. You might get some sleep tonight. He probably didn't last night. No, no, he didn't. We wish him luck. Yes.

We will be moving on to special exemption request 540 Parkway Road. James Carter. Is anyone here for that? some small. Uh if you feel like we need them, that'd be fine. She'll put one or two. That'll be perfect. Some floor plans or

Oh, I've seen this. We got this. Do we have this? Okay. Already looked up. Yes. Do you make it? I don't know if I will or not. In your pocket. Pocket.

Yeah. I'm here to ask for an exception uh for the zoning. I currently run a uh an online business. I do vehicle antique and classic vehicle title acquisition. And I do that for people actually nationwide. Um the state of Tennessee because of the quantity of titles I was doing has asked me to obtain an auto dealer's license. Uh to do that uh I want to continue to run it out of my house. I do not sell cars. I do not buy cars. I strictly do title acquisition, but I still am required by the state of Tennessee to have a auto dealer's license. So uh in their guidelines paragraph three says I have to have a zoning compliance uh in which the address must be reflected in the letter and the letter must state that automo automobile sales are a permitted use and again I want to stress that I I don't sell cars. I don't plan to sell cars. I just do title acquisition.

So So there won't be any traffic in there will be no there's no traffic. It's all online. I'm sorry. Is it all online most? It's online on my phone or through the US mail because we have papers we send back and forth and whatever and of course through the title bureau up here in Coffee County, but there'll be no no vehicle traffic, no pedestrian traffic, nothing like that. Are you Mr. Carter? I am, sir. How long have you been doing this conducting this business? I've been uh at the at this current location probably about two two months. You're generating taxes for Coffee County, too.

Yes, sir. I have there's there's quite an opportunity to bring sir tax money in for that. I didn't expect that the business would take off like it did and and I said, "Well, I'm I'm going to need to do something." Where is Parkway Road? What is that? It's uh you going out Raleigh Creek Raleigh Creek Road. There's a fork there in Toma. Yeah. And it goes on over to Dr. Well, I'll call it Dr. Bills's subdivision back in there. Okay. It goes straight through there on the right. Okay. That's over to the house on the left, which I look out and see Jim. This is my neighbor. Uhhuh. Every day. Oh, yeah. On the left right there.

Right here. So, I can absolutely testify to the fact that there has been no traffic whatsoever and he only runs this business out of his house with no physical cars. Will they make your building commercial? Will it change to commercial zoning? This the uh state's not really asking me for that. They're just asking me for they have this a letter from the zoning that permits me to sell. Okay, that's good. Yeah, that's good for you. Yep. If they don't make it. Yeah, they don't. Yeah,

I have their whole list of minimum requirements and it's not in there. There's a few things I have to obtain a license, but you know, I'll whatever I have to do through the county to obtain license and tax license and whatever. This license that you've already gotten or you're pursuing? No, sir, I'm pursuing it. What is the uh what's the cost on this? uh through the state. I'm not sure yet. I guess I depends on they'll adjust whatever my volume is temporary use. Yeah.

This was my first step in the in the process when it's marked orange. That's what I was looking at. Which one? 1060.

I think it is. Got that official copy. Yeah, it looks like it's compatible safe services and adequate. There's no junkyard. There's no obvious. Well, again, you could ask my neighbor. She's Yeah, I'm pretty fussy about my property.

For for the reason we've got to review this is for ingress and egress, economic noise, vibration, glare, uh if you refuse service of road, but you're on the dead end road. U if you would take any extra utilities to run this business and you would not. No, sir. um screening and buffering because you would need like if you run a junkyard or none of that. Um or if you require yard more more than your yard for the open space and you won't

and general compat compatibility to the adjacent properties and if you're not disrupting any of the other properties you're you're doing it out of your house. Yes, sir. It's compatible. Yes, sir. And that is not a private road that comes. That's I'm sorry. You said I'm on the end of a dead end road. That is a driveway. They're a driveway. Yeah. But I mean, I'm just to get to it. That long stretches driveway back to our two homes. You share driveways with three people. Uh two. Yep. Two. I own both of those last two buildings. Okay. The swimming pool, the big barn, and then uh we share a driveway with uh Millie and Kenny Saunders. Okay. Sammy, are you looking for a motion on this?

Yes, sir, I am. And if so, I move that it be approved. I'll second it. Motion's been made by Mr. Duke and seconded by Mr. Tim. Any other discussion on this? That's reference to 1060. 1060. In reference of 1060 and the uh criteras for review have been checked

and neighbor is in favor. Is there anybody here to um make another public comment for I mean against this or for this or and issues. Okay, seeing none, we'll proceed to vote. All in favor to allow this say I. I. I. All opposed. It passes. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you for think doing the process and and we understand it's a long process but thank you for I still got a ways to go. Well, good luck. Very much good luck. Thank you.

Last item on the agenda variance 5 acre minimum for A1 347 G Road. Miss Howard Howland,

I'm wanting to get I think it's a little bit less than two and a half acres for my house and my husband passed and I'm trying to settle his estate and I have to divide it with my son and my grandson and I don't have cash to be handed them. So I'm hoping, you know, to use property that we have to be the greater portion of what I have to divide. I don't know if there's anything else you need to know. I left I thought I left u something with the lady in the office next door of the

pictures or uh a drawing or something. I didn't remember to check and see. I should have had another copy, but I forgot to see about picking it up. See if it's in our packet here. There's the application.

Is this show? I don't think that's where on this map we're talking about. Apologize.

Okay. Up here. It's got to be up here because I want my husband had a shop, barn shop in the back. And I'm going to cut that part off. I only want the house and which is garages attached. So that should be where it looks white like concrete on the far right. Right there. Yes. And then my uncle had an old which is still there right here. Now, that's the bigger shop that I want to cut off that my husband had. Actually, there's a shop and then another

building behind it. There two buildings behind it. But I I wanted to cut just behind my house and have that part forward to the road that runs there, which see G Road goes around and really I guess that's just drives to my neighbor's my house and my neighbor's house. Have you got something? Okay.

How do they get access to the land? Is there another road access? Yeah, my son join the property joins which I might part of that off to him to my grandson. But the the road to the very left where that blue and purple line. It goes straight back to his property. So, we actually drive through there sometimes. Oh, beside the pond. Okay. Yes. Okay. We drive straight back through there. Okay. And so, he has access on his side and access off his road. Yes. Okay. So, off of this driveway here or the back side, the other road. Okay. Goes all the way through. I think I noticed that when I looked at the map earlier.

It just goes straight through right there. And that I guess I guess right here off of Hickerson Road. Oh, Hickerson Road. But it's it's at the bottom now. Yeah. That there right there. This house down. That's his house. Okay. And that drive comes through the trees right there. Yeah. Miss Holland, how many acres in the total parcel that you're want that you're addressing? What What' you say? her son.

Okay.

Not landlocked or anything. No, it's going and it's going to the family.

Is she completely cutting where the house is straight across the other property line or is she leaving the ement beside it right here? I'm not. Okay. Gross road would be right here, right? No, it's over here. This way. Is there an ement right here or is this just a It's a drive to there. I have a neighbor in front of me and to the left of me. But but the road will that driveway will stay with your property. Correct. This long drive, but there's a road in front. I mean, actually a road. Yeah. Yeah. Go on. Yeah. See where it curves? It says G this way.

I would have considered that still G road, but I don't know if you do. You can see the brown to the neighbor in front of me and then the neighbor to the left of me. So, it's really not anybody's drive. It just gives access to all of us. I don't What I was asking right here though on the behind the house. Yes. Are you drawing a line straight across like this all the way to the property line? Yes, I can. All the way to the property line or leaving? I think there was supposed to be the road. Yeah, that's what I'm asking. Straight across a drawing that I left and like I said, I just didn't when her house would fit on there like that.

Yeah, that's what I was asking. I don't know if he even a right away or he's been on the side or anything because of the road that's already there. It doesn't matter. Okay. So, son and grandson are inheriting getting the the land. Okay. I hope it will stay together that understand that. You're good. Thank you.

So, you're needing two, you'll be doing two properties, correct? dividing your main property into three pieces, but you need the only variance you'll need is for your house at this time. Yes. So that way you can give them land instead of giving them money. Yes. And I may have to give money, but I'm just trying to make that minimal as I can. And I really believe this falls under hardship. My personal opinion

under 1060. Huh? Under 1060. Do what? Under familyship. Is it? That's where we need to

10. I thought it was 1080.

1080. Was it in the Additional procedures.

We're We're trying We've got to site something here is what we've got is what we're working on. So, give us just one second, please. Have you got it there? No, I'm scrolling.

Look for the verb. I searched the whole document. hearings.

Yeah, but that is under variances. I think that's what we will be need. I can read that. Okay. Um but we need to make a motion. First, make a motion to approve. Anna's made the motion to approve. Tim, you got I'll second it. Who made the motion? Anna's made the motion.

And we're going to approve this on 110.80 C. And I'm gonna let Miss Gonzalez read that.

Upon a receipt of application and fee, the board shall hold a hearing and decide to whether variance resolution provision is in fact necessary to relieve necessary hardship which act to deprive the property owner of reasonable use of land. The board shall consider and decide all the application variances within 30 days and 30 days of such hearing in accordance with standards provided standard variance. Okay. Is there anyone here to um public comments on this? Anyone else? I guess with four of us here, I guess not. Um, any other discussion on this? Seeing none, we'll proceed to vote. All in favor say I.

I. Opposed. Passes. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Hen. Is there anything else? Um, According to the mayor, on October the 14th, the planning commission, the full commission, the full commission is going to look at the planning commission's recommendations recommendations for guidelines on this. Um they're going to make a they're going to propose it to the full commission some standards uh the standards for these

take some recommendation a packet. Yes. Yes. And um have we have we had any input on that? I didn't get to go that late. We had we wanted some guidelines. We asked for guidelines. Yeah. Three three of us were there with some input. Okay. And I remember Sammy calling me and telling me of a meeting, but I was just I could not I could not make it. He was at 4:00. Yeah. But uh we went and um made a few recommendations and they they made their recommendations were accepted

and there may be more coming down the line, but um they said, you know, we got to go. What is what Steve tell you that they wanted to only do two or three at a time so that it don't confuse? It takes a little while to explain to people, especially if you're not involved in the zonings and the in the codes and stuff. So that way they don't feel like they're being hoodwinkedked or anything straight up. And that way people, are you on the planning commission? No, sir. No, sir. Anna is Oh, you are? Okay. I was there. I'm on the full county commission. So, they can ask me questions, too. Yeah.

I read it. I think they only had one objection which was a comment about um using your land freely and I guess that that was the only section that somebody objected to like you know the comment was made. Well, it kind of varies to everyone what freely means and I think that was the only comment that was you know questioned. So I think they were considering about making an amendment about that change to the to that section or uh other than that there was I mean um there was no other opposition.

I was asked uh recently by an individual who has a parcel of property quite a quite a quite a number of acres and he said lower what I've really got on my mind doing is going down on a nice road is going down and selling one acre lots and then I'll come in behind and this 70 acres back here in the back. I'm I'm going to keep on farming that. Can I do that? And I said, I really can't answer that right now. Not at this present time. He can't do what? Not at this present time. He cannot.

If it's an A1. Yes. But if it's in the UGB, yes or he can or or RS4. Yeah. Depending on where he's located at now. If he's in agriculture one, he can't right now. Okay. But and they're working on that for plans and stuff. Planning commission is Well, I just they encourage each and all of us to use some common sense as we go down this road. Yeah. But I think a rapid we don't need to do it rapidly. We need to do it hastingly, but we don't need we need to think it out and think it through. Yeah.

I think a lot of counties are slowing down. Wilson counties was mentioned uh two days ago. Is it Murray County that's having problem with water? Spring Hill 1.9 billion with a B to pull water from the Cumberland River to Spring Hill. Take that shot in the head. Colombia is also an issue. So what they're going to do is soak our lake dry. Normandy is the only watershed for them right now. Columbia.

Uhhuh. And and if the the TVA gave back the land to TWWR, my understanding of this is TWWRA now owns the Colombia Dam land that was taken by imminent domain. And under Tennessee code annotated, if TWWRA gives up land, it has to be purchased by the state of Tennessee to somewhere else. So if they go back in and try to build the Colombia dam and take that acreage away from DWR, states on the hook to pay for that land, right?

But I couldn't be imagine being on the hook for 1.9 billion. Not with a M, it's with a B. And that's today. If they were to start today, that's what it would cost. I don't think that there would be that much growth to ever justify paying for it. That would be they're going to have to come up with something because they're going to rob our lake. Yeah.

And and to me, they have taken a lot of people land around here and they've made a lake with it and it should be for recreation and for water. Uh, but you going to get me off on a tangent, but I if we're in a like now we're pulling a lake down now. The lake's 3 foot below summer pool where it should be sitting. Um, you shouldn't be watering your garden. You shouldn't be washing your cars. Colombia shouldn't be doing anything cuz to me, we're the head of the water and uh I don't know. It's it's going to be something that our children are going to have to stay on top of because water is just going to be a precious commodity.

Manchester City got a grant the other day for $2 million to rehab some of the sewer. Uh I know they're getting in trouble for illeg. It's not illegal, but blowbyss that contaminate Normandy Lake and there's just raw sewage sometimes that runs in there. So, it's going to be a problem for all of and then that's where growth is coming, but how do you manage that? Do you leave your kids on the hook with a huge bill at the end when we're all or my people my age are gone and then look back and think about how foolish we were. So, l the long answer to what you just said.

It's a it's not quite as simple as just saying, hey, you do whatever you want to with your property. is everybody else is paying for these resources and we got to figure out how to manage that money and be able to get those resources to people when they need them. If they overwhelm them when we're in worse shape than we are. Yeah. Yep. Any other discussion here? A motion to adjourn. We'll make a motion to adjourn. Second. Sounds good. I got some paperwork I need to