Board of Trustees - Regular Meeting

union and mr. Stevens come on up Tim and introduce you could we got two gals is that correct

yes yeah we got uh alexandra miller and brooklyn rooms right absolutely fantastic so the floor is yours please this is yours yes my name is tim stevens um president of local 3412. with me is ben buzak is our chairperson of our benefit fund and our event committee he raises the money to allow us to provide these two one thousand dollar scholarships to West Claremont grads. So he busts his tail all year long on different events to raise these funds, along with many other members. And then we had a scholarship committee that received about a dozen applications, and the two winners stand to my right. Brooklyn Rooms, straight-A student, going to attend Texas Tech for nursing. And then Alexandra Miller is going to go to Ohio State for neuroscience. Also straight A student. So we just wanted to present this in front of the board and express our gratitude to the community for providing us with a great place to work and the ability to give these scholarships to these two young ladies. So without further ado, Ben has the checks. Good luck in school. Good job. Oh, good.

Appreciate that, Mr. Buzak and Mr. Stevens, very much. Our fire union does a great job at being very active in our community. We love you guys very much. Appreciate you all very much. And two gals well-deserving. And just for the record, Tim, it's actually the Ohio State University. Well, fantastic. And moving along, we next have our unit township. Oh, let's do this one here. Okay, our unit township. Years of recognition. So let's do a police chief. I'll throw it over to you.

Dylan, you want to step up? So Dylan Torok, Mr. Dills, is our first gentleman we're going to honor tonight. He's celebrating 10 years with the township. What can I say about Dylan? He's a go-getter. You can tell just by looking at him. He serves as an FTO, so he trains our new officers. He is on the county SRT team as one of our union township representatives. And, uh, more importantly lately, he has been doing a lot with our director patrol, which is our plane close, uh, and some of our street corner stuff. And, um, Dylan's a hustler. Uh, he has works hard for me and more importantly than that, he treats people while out there. So, uh, appreciate his service. Thanks Dylan. Yep.

Officer Torek, yeah, 10 years. Appreciate you very much. I've seen you several times. Do you have your family here? Yeah, my wife and my son. That's fantastic. Thanks for giving us for 10 years of service, and hopefully you stay here for a long time. Good people very much, and I appreciate you very much, sir. Vice Chair, did you have anything for him?

Hey, 10 years. You must have some stories to tell. Anything come to mind?

A lot of good stories, a lot of great memories, a lot of great coworkers, and a lot of great mentors, some who are still here and some who have either moved on or retired. You know, just thankful for the opportunity and, you know, this 10 years. Looking forward to the hopeful another 20 years of service here at Union Township. That's good. Awesome.

You know, I'm sure the chairman will agree with me that with a haircut like that, you must be cream of the crop. Got it. Got to keep it tight.

Yeah. Mr. Look, sir.

Let's see. Ten years. You know, you pretty much answered my question. You said you're looking forward to 20 years. So what are the top three things that you appreciate or most excited about the job that you do?

I'm looking forward to hopefully other positions moving forward in the township or in the police department um looking forward to just time with co-workers and just helping out the community awesome hey thank you we are so appreciative of your 10 years and with your you know giving your time to the community and serving uh and balancing that with your family your young young family that

Thank you. Absolutely.

Thanks, Officer. So we have this award, and we're going to present it to you. We've got one more to do, and we'll take a picture with you both. Is that okay? Perfect. Fantastic. Appreciate you, sir, very much. Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Officer. Appreciate you very much. Thank you.

And Chief Reese, I'll throw it right back over to you, sir. So last but certainly not least is Officer Ben Reardon. Ben is celebrating 20 years with the police department. We plucked him out of Williamsburg, I believe, 20 years ago. And, you know, with Ben, I just really so much appreciate the loyalty and the hard work. We don't have a lot of 20-year veterans that are out there on the road, and Ben is a lifetime night shifter. And for me to have a guy out there with 20 years of experience, especially with a lot of the young guys we got, gives me a lot of wisdom and experience, and you just can't replace that. I really appreciate the job Ben's done for me for the last 20 years.

Yeah. Well, Officer Reardon, actually, Mr. Becker, I'll go ahead and start with you, sir. Any words for Officer Reardon?

20 years on the night shift? Yes, sir. I know you've got stories to tell.

None that are appropriate for this item.

I understand. Thank you for your service. Much appreciated.

Mr. Luke, sir?

Hey, thank you for the 20 years. I would like to safely assume you enjoy the night shift.

Works best for my family, yes, sir.

Yeah, works best. You looking forward to continuing that? Yes, sir. And what's the most, you know, top two or three things that you enjoy about the job?

It's going to sound funny, but helping people. People that won't help themselves. Yeah. Ran into something like that last night. mind of solving that forward a little bit. Chief Reese is a good, great boss. I wouldn't say good, great boss. He tries to take care of us the best he can. Again, like Dylan said, just work with the people I've seen for 20 years.

Yeah. I appreciate it. You were on last night, so you got off at like 7? 6 a.m. 6 a.m., yeah. All right. So is this in your normal cycle right now being awake for this meeting or is this kind of. I should be out there right now. Okay. All right. Well, Hey, thank you.

Yeah. Officer really appreciate you very much. Did you have a family here as well?

My wife. Yes.

Oh, well, good. Good. Thanks for giving us 20 years. I know it's a lot. And so, uh, um, appreciate you very much. I know you've seen a lot, you've done a lot and I appreciate you sticking on being a good veteran and, uh, you know, coaching the younger officers. And so I appreciate you very much. Thank you. Thank you, sir. So I appreciate that. And then we're going to come down. I got awards for you both for your tenure at the township, okay? Appreciate you very much. Thanks, guys.

John, am I allowed by you with all my hair? Okay, one, two, three, and four. Thank you.

And then before we move on, I've categorized our public comment cards. So if anybody has a public comment at all, there's a card in the back I want you to fill out. And then when it comes time for that, we'll come up and collect them, or you can bring them up. And we'll get to that in a minute. But just to let you know, they should be in the back for you to fill out if you want to speak. All right, we'll continue on to personnel actions. All right, Chief Clemmons, you've got two guys for us tonight, and I will throw the floor to you first, sir.

Thank you, Mr. Dills. So before I bring up the... First consideration, just wanted to note that these two positions are due to retirements in the fire department, so we're backfilling budgeted positions with the two on the agenda tonight. So with that, Ben, if you could come up to the podium, I'd like to introduce and recommend Mr. Ben Buzak for consideration to the promotion to the rank of lieutenant. Mr. Buzak has over 29 years in the fire service, with 10 years serving the city of Loveland prior to being hired full-time by Union Township in 2007. During his career, Ben has completed Fire Officer I through Bowling Green University and leaderships I, II, and III through the Ohio Fire Academy. He has demonstrated his leadership skills on a daily basis and has embraced his role as a mentor to our newer personnel. As a longtime resident of Union Township, Mr. Buzak has embraced this community and has been an advocate for the township as well as the fire department. His efforts in running the annual local 3412 golf outing is a big reason which we saw the two scholarships handed out this evening. Ben excelled in the promotional process, which consisted of a written examination, an oral and written evaluation, as well as a formal interview. I would recommend the promotion of Ben Buzak to the rank of lieutenant at a rate of pay consistent with step three of the collective bargaining agreement effective June 23, 2026 at 7 AM. Good intro, Chief.

It's funny, Chief made sure that I got your name correct because the C is silent, right, Buzak? It is. It is, okay. I didn't want to make that mistake. And, sir, do you got your family here? Yes. It's a big day. Let me hear it.

My father's here, my wife, my mother-in-law, our two boys. I have some cousins and aunts and uncles and a bunch of friends came out for me.

Yeah.

Obviously, these good guys back here.

The firefighters always show up whenever there's a promotion or something going on. They always show out. I love it. I love it. You got a good group of guys behind you. So the 29 years serving the fire department, you know, and Tell us why UT? Why stick around for so long? What is it?

Well, when I left, it's because I wanted to come home and work. We moved here in the 70s. I went to school here and decided that this is home. If I'm going to do this service, I'd rather do it for the community I live in.

Well said. Well said. Yeah, well said, Ben. Vice Chair, anything?

29 years, you've got a very impressive resume. Thank you for your years of service to the township, and it sounds like you've earned the promotion. Absolutely. Thank you.

Mr. Luke? Yeah, no, excited to be able to have you, retain you, keep you, and backfill those positions. Always a delight to see you around the fire department and the house as well. So thanks for pointing out your family, Ben.

Appreciate it. That's good. Ben, after we vote, if you could, stick around for just a little bit longer. We'll get our picture with you and congratulate you, okay? All right, so gentlemen, I will entertain a motion to promote Ben Buzak to the position of lieutenant effective June 23, 2026 at 7 a.m. at a pay rate consistent with step three of the collective bargaining agreement.

So moved.

Second. Any further discussion? Mr. Campbell, roll call.

Mr. Becker? Yes. Mr. Logan?

Yes.

Mr. Dills? Yes. Motion carries.

Congratulations, Mr. Becker. Thank you.

Congratulations. Thank you. Congratulations. Thank you.

Congratulations, Beth. Thank you.

Good. Didn't want to interrupt their ceremony. And one more. Chief Clements, sir, I'll throw it right back to you, sir.

Sure. If I could welcome Mr. Kenny Reardon up to the podium. I'd also like to introduce Mr. Kenny Reardon for consideration to the promotion to the rank of Lieutenant. Prior to his fire service career, Mr. Reardon spent eight years with the Ohio Army National Guard as a Sergeant E-5. During his time in the Army, he graduated from the 7th Army Non-Commissioned Officer Academy and held several leadership positions. He was hired by Union Township in 2007 and has been involved in many projects over his 18-year career. Most recently, Mr. Reardon has been in charge of managing our fire department radios and pursuing training opportunities, which allows us to do more maintenance in house on those radios versus utilizing outside vendors. He has completed fire officers one and two. In addition to receiving an associate's degree in paramedic management in 2010, he continued his education receiving a bachelor's degree in public safety management and leadership in 2024. Kenny also excelled in this promotional process, and I would recommend the promotion of Mr. Reardon to the rank of lieutenant at a rate of pay consistent with step three of the collective bargaining agreement, effective June 24th, 2026 at 7 a.m. Great.

Thank you, Chief. Kenny, any relation to Ben over there? I was taking notes as Chief was talking, you know, NCO, non-commissioned officer in Army, 18 years, and then really impressive that, you know, as you progressed with life and you chose to go back and get your continuous education, I respect that. So well done, sir. And you got your family here, right? Please. Fantastic. It's a big day. Big day for your man. So, appreciate you very much. Thanks for serving with our fire department. And I'll ask the same question because you're very tenured. Why Union Township? I like the guys. Yeah? That's fun. Fair enough. Sir, Mr. Brecker?

uh hey uh just um you know you got a great resume and uh congrats on the promotion it sounds like it's well learned and uh i'm sure the chairman approves of your haircut so that's all chairman mr luke i was waiting for uh mr becker to be a barber one of these days soon um thank you um thank you for for your years of service uh but yeah we're looking forward to having you and then uh the promotion ranks there, and continuing your impact for the township. It's really critical what you say there as far as it's about the community, it's about your teammates, it's about the guys that you're with. You speak very candidly from a place of passion on that, and that's clear to see. So I can see how it would be great to work alongside you, so they're fortunate to have you. So, yeah, thank you. Congratulations.

That's good. Thank you, Mr. Logue. All right, gentlemen. I will entertain a motion to promote Mr. Kenny Reardon to the position of lieutenant effective June 24, 2026 at 7 a.m. at a pay rate consistent with the step three of the collective bargaining agreement.

So moved. Second.

Any further discussion? Mr. Campbell, roll call.

Mr. Becker? Yes. Mr. Logue? Yes. Mr. Dills?

Yes.

Motion carries.

Congratulations, Kenny. congratulations congratulations

Thank you.

We'll let the families clear out just for a moment. All right, ladies and gentlemen, so now we're up to public comments. Now, I want to also say there's also two public hearings, completely separate. So if you want to talk about the two public hearings, which is one is the apartments on Glen Esty, Withensville, the mixed-use property, and there's also the gas station on Old 74. That's the two public hearings. You can speak during public comments. but you're probably going to have to redo it again when we get to the actual zoning case. So I would probably say hold off during public comments if that's all you want to talk about. Now during public comments, you've got five minutes. You can talk about anything that you want us to hear. It's fine. But if you want to talk about those specific two zoning cases, my suggestion would be to hold off until those come up on the agenda. So with that being said, I do have, I was trying to filter through these comment cards. And so hold on one second. So I got a Sharon, a Cindy, and a Paul, and a Ray. Yours looks like public comments would be the time to speak because it's about a resolution here. So if there's anyone else that would like to speak, just grab a comment card back there and bring it on up. But you can come on up. Yeah, sure, sure. And then if that's the case, we can just start with you. That's fine.

Perfect. I think I probably need to wait.

I want to talk about the development of possibly a club pipe area.

Oh, the which one?

The transfer or something.

Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah. That's fine. That's fine. Okay. I'll grab yours as well. No problem. um i gotta go yeah prep correct correct yeah that'd be for the apartments correct zoning case yeah the other zoning case correct yep i got it for the zoning case you wanna wait for yeah correct okay no problem and so uh let's see here and okay first one i got is ray meyer ray the floor is yours you got five minutes and it would be the same thing for everyone when you come up you just want to state your name and then address for the record and then the floor is yours Welcome. State your name and address for the record.

Ray Meyer, 4504 Dominick Drive. My question is do all of the apartments slash condo projects going on have abatements?

The answer is no. No. So there's something that's called TIFs and JEDs. It's crazy. We had the same question come up last month, and Mr. Wright addressed all that. But the answer is no. No. The answer is no.

For the abatements, how long are the abatements?

Well, I'll let – Go ahead, Mr. Wright, please.

I'm sorry, sir. So we don't have any CRA abatements on apartments. I know that's a big thing people read about. We don't have any.

Those can go up to 100% and up to 15 years.

But since we don't have any, the only CRA properties that I know of were prior to when the county could only do them. One is 32 East, which was, everybody remembers what that was. It was like $2 million worth of valuation. They put 24 million in to generate for Burlington and revamp all that. Those were the guys that tragically passed away in a plane accident up in Toledo. They were from Florida. um and then the avalon which was some time ago uh i want to say that burned off probably five to six years ago and that was a county cra and that was a 50 but none of the projects that you see are cra abated okay thank you that's right thanks ray and uh all right next one i got is uh uh forgive me if i pronounce your name wrong uh paul hevelis

Come on up, Paul, and just state your name and address for the record, sir.

My name is Paul Havelis. I live at 1139 Forrest Run Drive. First of all, I never thought in a thousand years I'd be sitting up here complaining about noise, but I'm complaining about noise in my neighborhood, motocross noise to begin with. My wife and I have lived in Share La Crosse in Union Township for 29 years. I've never had to call the cops just one time in 20-plus years. Six months, I've called the police five to six times. I've sent emails to every one of you, videos. Many neighbors have sent videos. It's excessive noise. I can no longer sit on my deck. I can't open my windows. It's out of control. I have gone over to try to talk to them. And that didn't go anywhere. I was talking to a Ring camera. She told me the police can't do anything. It's private property. She'll take breaks with the motorcycles. They build a track with jumps, and they go around in circles for hours on end. I can't do anything anymore with it. When I went over to talk to her, I said, show some respect for your neighbors. I got nowhere with it. Basically, I walked home, and they did it for two more hours. They just gunned the engines for two hours. There's many neighbors that want to show up. They're afraid of the teenage boys, the vandalism, the retribution. I don't know what else to do. They live in a .41-acre lot, and they're in the back having a motocross park. It's just crazy. It's out of control. I have called zoning. I know zoning has cited them. They still continue to do it. I work from home, I work on medical equipment, and I can hear motocross bikes in my house. I can't sit on my deck, I can't open the windows. I don't know what else to do. One time I document, I do document every time they get on the bike from March 30th to April 30th, they're on their bikes for 32 hours, 32 hours through that 30 day period. Sometimes they're on the bike for six hours. How am I expect to live in my house? I just need help. We want to get back to a quiet neighborhood where I can open the window, talk to neighbors and be peaceful. This is crazy. I don't know what else to do. How do we go from here? What do we do? I don't know what else to do anymore. I've called the police. I mean, I don't know what to do.

Mr. Avilis, I think you're going to be very pleased. I can't predict. I can't speak. I know you can't predict.

I just want to state my – I never thought I'd be up here to talk to people like this.

No, no, and I appreciate that.

I live in a neighborhood. I just want to be peaceful. I want to sit on my deck. I want to talk to my neighbors. I want to walk the dog. I don't want to hear motocross bikes.

I will say this, and I think there's a couple other folks here as well that are going to probably speak about the same thing, and I'll say that I think you folks will probably be very pleased with the outcome tonight on your specific resolution. Because all your complaints and the videos that came in, the police reports, I heard them loud and clear.

Okay. I just want to make sure, you know, I don't come up to complain about, this is just crazy. It's a valid complaint. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, yeah, I would appreciate anything you can help us out and do whatever we can do.

As soon as the, hold on, let me look here real quick. Well, you're further down on the agenda, but if you want to stick around for it tonight, you can. I will. Oh, I will. I think you'll be pleased on it, so for what it's worth.

Okay. Thank you for your time. I really appreciate it. Of course, Paul.

Thank you. Thank you, sir. Okay. And I assume this must be Paul's wife, Cindy. Cindy, you're more than welcome to come up and speak, please. Yeah. And then same thing. Please just state your name and address for the record.

Yeah. My name is Cindy Hevelis, 1139 Forest Run Drive, Shaler Crossing. And I'll be very brief. Yeah, I don't want to complain either, but it has been we've lived there 29 years. It's a very wonderful neighborhood. It's beautiful neighborhood. And yeah, I just feel for neighbors. I know we know a lot of other neighbors who don't want to be here. And I feel for neighbors who have babies or who are sick or like my daughter-in-law who works a night shift as a nurse who lives somewhere else who maybe needs to sleep during the day, things like that. I know myself, I suffer from migraines and a couple times it disturbed me during the day when I was not feeling well. So I just feel for a lot of people that they don't have respect and have not thought about that like a lot of us do have respect for our neighbors and want to live in peace and harmony. And I would love that neighborhood back to what we have had before to live and have respect for our neighbors and live in peace and harmony for each other and have my nice Schiller crossing back the way it was before. So we can live amongst each other and respect each other because obviously they don't have that. And I feel bad for a lot of other people. And that's really

I appreciate you speaking up. Thank you, Ms. Cindy, very much. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Anything you can help us. Yes, ma'am. Passing the resolution, we would greatly appreciate it. Yes, ma'am. You got it.

Thank you. Thank you, Cindy. Thank you. Okay. And then I got a Sharon. Is it Nels? Yes. Come on up, Ms. Sharon, please. Okay, Sharon. You got five minutes to state your name and address for the record, please.

Good evening. I am Sharon Nels. My address is 10 93 flick lane, Batavia, Ohio. And my question is about the status of Eastgate mall. I have been a resident of union township for the past 27 years, have been blessed to raise my family here. Um, I grew up in Anderson. I watched the mall go up. I watched two 75 be built. And I've loved that mall. I've been happy to go in there and do some shopping. But I went yesterday, and it just caught my attention about more stores are leaving. And specifically, I went to one to inquire about one that you guys may have been familiar with, the Great American Cookie Company. My son's going to be celebrating his birthday, and he doesn't like cake. So they said, well, that's been gone for a while. I went, what? And having a conversation with an employee in one of the stores who was almost in tears and talking to me and saying, I don't want to lose my job, but my boss is telling me if the rent keeps going up, in our, our place where we're at, they're going to have to close. So I'm just curious what the status is, because when you drive by the mall, I mean, to me, it's an eyesore. I mean, when you go up to 75, I want to be, and honestly, I know we're not west Liberty, but I want to be like those people going, wow, I want to stop in there. And I applaud all our efforts of our community to come together and, you know, build, you know, these overpasses make 30, 32. more you know you know easier to to get back and forth in and doing all the construction we're currently doing for our community but where does the mall stand i'll give you a very try to do my best to give you a quick 30 second elevator pitch but i'm probably lying on 30 seconds

You know, I think Kroger wants what's best for the mall. The mall owners want what's best for the mall. They just disagree on how to do it. And so it's been in the Court of Appeals. It's now at the Appellate Court. Is that correct, Mr. Wright, at the Appellate Court? Yes. And then we'll find out. Gosh, we should find out soon, I think. Gosh. And so basically... Very quick pitch is that Kroger wants to build their store with the rear end of their building backed up. They want to tear down Sears and back it up to the mall. They want the front of their building to face State Route 32. And the mall owners say no, because it's going to mess up the entire center of the mall. Yes, you can build it, but just flip it. Flip it. So that's what they're fighting about is that. And then you have five main owners of the mall. There's other ones, but the five main owners, you might have heard the right of veto power. That ends in 2030. So regardless, whoever wants to build there will still have to come back to the Board of Trustees, whether we're here or a different board. to get whatever approved. But basically, right now, Kroger and Mauler are fighting over that. And it doesn't matter what side you're on or whatever. I think they both want what's best for the mall. But Kroger wants to face 32. I understand why. Hall Property Group wants them to flip it. And I understand why from their perspective. Because they can't really do much with the mall if you've got a Kroger. And then you have semi-trucks dumping off their goods in the dumpsters in the back and in the middle of the mall. So that's basically where it's at. And they're at a standstill until the courts settle it. and then um that's that's where it's at so unfortunately the rest of us have to pay because I remember going to the mall and you know high school cruising the strip and all that stuff so trust me I agree uh we would all we've all made it clear we wanted to be mixed use like a Liberty Town Center like a Deerfield Town Center um but unfortunately it's held up in the courts right now so that's that's that's the status well thank you for that answer because I was getting like mixed facts about when things were going to happen and yeah i just like you said you want this place to be awesome i've raised my family here and i wanted to continue to be the place everybody comes yeah and as far as rents i mean this private property i can't be sure what somebody charges for rent so um but but i i agree with you 100 so yeah for what it's worth well thank you thank you miss appreciate you thank you miss sharon and then uh last one i got is uh kirk wilson sir All right, sir. Yeah, please. Come on. The floor is yours. Yes. State your name and address for the record.

My name is Kirk Wilson, 4611 Muir Ridge Court.

Yes.

Since this board was instituted here, when it comes to all the new apartments, build businesses and all that, how much of that tax money being paid by them goes to the township? Any percentage or anything that's being known or?

When I first found out, it was mind-blowing, but I'll let you hear it from the horse's mouth, Mr. Wright. But correct me if I'm wrong, schools get about 60%. So for every $1 you pay in taxes, schools get about 60%. Ballpark, give or take, 20%, 25% goes to the county, and then the remaining amount comes to the township. So about, about 15% of every dollar you spend actually comes to the township. Mr. Right. Am I wrong on that? Right.

It's ballpark ballpark. You're at 60, 20, 20, basically 60, 20, 20. And you know, because the County has inside millage and they have voted millage levies, the school districts anywhere are going to consume, depending on where you are in the township. We're very unique because we have multiple school districts. So most of Union Township is West Claremont schools. There is a significant portion that's Milford schools, a large portion on the Northeastern section that is CNE schools, and then kind of the Southeastern component, which is Batavia schools. And so every school district has a different millage rate. So if you're in the Milford district, your percentage that goes is a little higher. If you're in CNE, it's maybe a little less because they have an earned income tax in the district. But basically, that's correct. It's about 55 to 60% and then 20 and then 20%. So so that's what you see is is. And then with that and we went through and I encourage everybody to watch the work session that we did in the meeting prior with the presentation, about 85 cents of every dollar that we receive in goes directly into safety services. So the men and women you saw here tonight from the police department and the fire department, that is the bulk of township spending.

And it should be correct.

And, and we do everything else. We do everything else with the remaining 50, 15% of that eight of those dollars.

Yeah. And my opinion is if you have the money, and everything, you know, like right now over at the, we call it helicopter park. If you're a long time residents here, you know, they're at the, uh, the, uh, playground. And I guess, are you adding some kind of a splash pad thing or something over there?

Not at the helicopter park, not at veterans, but we did at Klepper.

The thing would be to do that and then want to levy for police and fire. My personal thing is if they need the money, they get it first before parks, anything. He had a dollar left over, 50 to the fire, 50 cents to the police. That's my opinion on that. Taxes have been going insane for the last five or six years. It's putting a strain on a lot of people, especially senior citizens. Nobody believes it's real anymore. You know, it's more or less contrived. Somebody says, hey, your house was worth $125,000 five years ago. Now it's worth $300,000. So you're going to pay taxes on that. You know, and you're being Republicans. Republican. We put you in there because, in my mind, Republicans are just two things. Limited government, low taxes. Taxes go for only what... are deemed to go to which is basically the welfare of the township and in safety services especially safety services because we're becoming like say a small city and they need all the help they can get on this i went through the police since the police academy several years ago and that through the entire thing and you get a real good respect for what they do for that, and my father was a police officer for 30 years. So I grew up around the police and everything like that. And definitely in that, I'm a big supporter. But in your minds, when you see this and all this development, and you say you're voting for more development, that a lot of people are kind of against right now, what do you think is in your mind what's the benefit to union township i mean you know you take a look and say hey yeah we're going to vote we want to get these apartments in here we want these businesses in here in your mind what do you think is the benefit to union township overall you think it's because more people in here make it make it better or we're more of a go-to destination or is it revenue What is it? You know.

Kirk, I appreciate your perspective, everything you're sharing there. But I think you actually just nailed it, too. You said limited government. You're asking a question right now. Let's really market economics and dynamics. And do you want me as government to tell business where to invest and how to do business? That doesn't really feel like limited government when I take a look at it. And that's kind of the dilemma, right? And when we talk about the parks, we had a small pocket park about four years ago by TQL that we were able to sell off for about a million dollars and reinvest into some of the improvements that you see. I shouldn't even say improvements taking care of the community's assets that we have, which are parks, right? About 140 acres that there are want to take care of your house. There's maintenance that comes, there's things that get out of date. Um, There's improvements if you don't do that. So it's kind of a wash anyway, selling a park, reinvesting some of those funds, receiving some grant funding into it, bring some additional revenue into the township. But if you don't do that, what would you have me do with the park? I mean, would you want the township to sell off? You said you live by helicopter park. Would you want the township to sell off helicopter park? If we say, hey, we're not going to invest, we're not going to take care of it, we're not going to maintain it. And then that invites the same question. Business would buy it. Business would want to build. And limited government. So that would be the dilemma. So we do the best within the governance and the system that we have to represent the people and listen to you.

So thank you for your perspective. And that's why we live in a township, not a city. Our main thing, do I still have time? I can't tell.

One minute left. Go ahead. It's okay.

Our main thing is you're right. Businesses want to come in and they see land and they buy the land. Now when it comes to zoning and everything, take a look and see if that's proper. But apartments and that, really not. I've been in areas where you had development. I've been in Union Township almost 50 years. Plenty of times here. Living here for a long time. and see the development over all the years. So you just have to take a look at it, and we're becoming so saturated, and it's putting a lot of pressure on the citizens. Less homeowners and everything, and the burden's being put on a smaller group of people. So there has to be a way to do something. Now, I know this board can't solve that question. The state of Ohio probably could really help if they would, but they don't care. I don't vote for them. I don't vote for anybody else that runs against them that's a Republican. But that's basically what I have to say. The thing is, what I've seen over the years, and I'm not saying about anyone here at this board, I've seen a lot of Republicans vote more like tack-and-spin Democrats than I've ever seen before. The Tea Party, I think, was our last best hope, and it got taken over in everything. I voted for younger people because my generation's screwed it up enough. We're hoping you guys can fix it. And you're going to have to because this type of country you live in now won't be here 20, 25 years from now because of what's happening now. And the decisions you make here, they make in the state or in the federal. And these people, a lot of these people are my age and all that. They may not be around when it comes to pay the piper. You will. And I know you guys have served. So you know what it is to love your country. And that's what it is. If we don't all prosper, then we all go down together. And with the way everything's going, it just seems to me like it's now, I don't think anybody's in cahoots or anything. But it's just the way that the culture is now to where it's just take and grab all you can tax-wise. Take the money out of somebody's pocket and give it to somebody else. Nobody gave me nothing in my life. I went there and I worked like a dog for all I got and everything. And if anybody needs help, I'm willing to help. I volunteered for Yelrin Support Center for 20 years. everything else in that but you know if you need help i'll help thank you very much thank you but we definitely have to you definitely it starts with you younger people you you gotta you gotta get the change back and everything to keep this country another 100 or 250 years like it is now because without it this world would go up in smoke that's all i got thank you very much thank you okay uh

Lynn, forgive me. Uh, come on up to the, to the podium. This Lynn, uh, can you say your last name? And then, um, I'll see your address for the record. Oh, Javicki. Okay.

Perfect. You got eight 80 Surrey Ridge.

Um, great.

I voted for all three of you. I campaigned for all three of you. I'm disappointed very much in what two of you have been doing to allow this ridiculous overdevelopment of multi-unit residential in what used to be a really great area to live. I'm a realtor. I deal with people, lots of residents every day. I know what's going on around here. None of us like it. And you guys are either completely tone deaf or you just don't care about what your constituents want. I wasn't even going to get up here and talk until you gave your little speech, Mr. Logue, about limited government. What do you want us to do? Do you want us to tell people they can't develop? Well, I believe there's a master plan for this area, and there is zoning. And you guys are so quick to change that zoning that's supposed to be single-family residential into multi-unit, and now everything's a mess. The whole area's a mess. Property values are going down. And yes, that's what I do for a living. The demographics have changed not in a positive direction. Crime up. Traffic, ridiculous. I lived here 33 years. Nobody in Eastgate ever honks their horn at somebody. We wait patiently. That's who we are. Not anymore. You can't even get down Eastgate Boulevard without the person behind you honking at you. You guys, I'm holding you two responsible for ruining what was a very good community. And we're all sick of it. If you think you're ever getting voted in again, it will never happen. We want people who care about our community. Thank you very much.

Well guys, um, we have voted down. The problem is perceptions reality. And you have the apartments on Klepper and Buck Buxton, which were approved, I don't know, a year or so before me and Mr. Becker took office. And then construction cost delays and all that. And so we didn't vote on that. The problem is the project started right now. The project started on, I've said this almost every meeting. And yet, but perception is reality. Ms. Lynn, I agree with you. And you don't like the two votes that me and Mike voted on. They were single family residential homes valued at $500,000 a piece, not multifamily, not apartments. He voted no, it's fine. We voted yes. We haven't voted on a single apartment building that's come across in four and a half years. Perception is reality. You all see this construction going on and you're thinking, this board, this board, and you want to point fingers, and rightfully so. When you're sitting up here, you get fingers pointed at you, and I understand. That's okay. I can handle it. It's fine. Perception is reality. We have not voted on a single apartment that you see in this township. If you don't like it, it's okay. Three years, I don't have to do this again. It's okay. You can blame it on me. It's fine. It's okay. But perception is reality. The two votes that you don't like are the ones that we voted on that were half a million dollars is nothing to shake a fist at, for crying out loud. That's a nice, single-family, middle-class residential home. We voted in favor of that, and he voted it down. That was not apartments. That was not multifamily. And so there is no debate on it. That's just facts. And if you want to blame us for Boxton and Klepper, those apartments, go ahead. You want to blame us for the old Glen Esty site, that's okay, too. Go ahead. We didn't vote on that. I didn't vote on that. That was before my time. The problem is you all see the construction now, and it's like, oh, these trustees, they keep doing them. We didn't vote it. The only thing we voted on was single-family residential homes. And he made a valid case of why he didn't want to, and we made a valid case why we wanted to. So I'm not going to, I mean, it's OK. I get it. It's OK. But I appreciate you campaigning for me. I'm flattered. I hate to say it, but it's okay. In my three years, if we're good and you think I've done a poor job, I don't have to run again, guys. It's okay. Okay, I'll move on to one more. We've got one more here. Ron Murphy, is that correct? Sir, please, come on. The floor is yours. Five minutes, please. Perfect. Okay, please. The floor is yours. Five minutes, please.

My name is Ron Murphy. I live at 1024 Crisfield. It's a common T-scale. No, Mr. Campbell for a long time. And I know Mr. Clemens parents. So I grew up around here. My wife's from Brooklyn, Indiana. I moved away for about 18 years, maybe the Westchester area. My mom got sick. I've been like this area and I've been back here 12 years. Uh, but I live back here in the condominium complex where the old backs up to the old school. Yeah. And. We had a board meeting, annual board meeting, May 22nd. And it was here. We had 75 people at a meeting that surprised 60 more than ever comes to a meeting. People are just tired of shenanigans and stuff that are going on back there with board and property management people. But we found out at the meeting that our board agreed to lease part of our common area for a public parking lot. And people were pissed off, said at least, and you know, my question is that the meeting was shock. Was it surveyed? Was it plotted out the amount that we got? How did we come up with that amount? And I got, one board member looked at the other and looked as dumb as the other one did. Nobody had any answers. So I got a petition started one around the neighborhood and had a lot of people sign it enough to keep them from being able to do what they're supposed to do. So I emailed the property manager and the board people. I came up here to the zoning office and really got nowhere. And finally, The property manager emailed me back last Friday because I assured her that I knew when I talked to some lawyers that Ohio Revised Code 53-1104 states that they can't do nothing without 75% approval of the unit owners. So go back to Friday, I get a letter, email from the property manager stating that they changed our bylaws in 2020. which they probably knew about the development around here and things that were going on. So they changed the wording from our, on our bylaws, which I didn't know until Friday, the changes, the, the, the wording in common areas was by law and the state of Ohio, the unit owners own that. They changed it to common elements so they could try to circumvent what they're doing and selling our property or leasing our property from under our feet. and uh i'm gonna file an injunction i'm moving but i'm not giving up because my parents live back there my dad and you know another thing was piggybacking on some of what these people said you know my place is paid for i'm 62 years old i thought i was in a good spot it cost me 1200 bucks to live there and i had a new house payment so i got on the voter registration site and just did my street and the demographic of the whole area is about the same There's 40 people over 65 on my street. There's 29 people over 70. There's 23 people over 75, and there's 13 people over 80. Property taxes are $300. And go back to what one gentleman said. My dad lives back there since 1987. People across the street from me bought the same unit in 2020 for $120,000. My dad paid $85,000 in 1987. So his property value went up $35,000 in 33 years. Mine's almost doubled in six years. So you've got property tax, our condo fees are ridiculous, which are going to make these places unsellable. My concern is older residents aren't going to eat, they aren't going to get their medicine, they're going to lose their house. You know, on top of... leasing our property for a hundred thousand dollars for 30 years. That's not worth $3,300 to me for shit. I don't want people parking up there all nights, times of night. You got RJ has been taken over. Joe Hans has been taken over. Dick's has been taken over. We don't need nobody to race them back in the neighborhood. You're hanging out in a parking lot all hours of the night for 3,300 bucks.

it's not happening i'll follow the injunction i'll put my own damn money i'm going to stop it mr are you talking because people are doing things behind people's back and i'm not cool about your hoa this is me i don't know we don't have any governing body over your eight your homeowner association but how can they how can they put a parking lot up there just right go ahead please sure so that's a private contract between

the HOA and who is proposing that the developer. Yep. And you would be permitted to add a parking lot for that pool house today.

If the HOA decided to build one with the unit, with the unit owner's discretion.

Yeah. Yeah. So it's, this is really what you're talking about is private contract matter between, well, actually it's going to be a public parking lot though. Well, it's, it's whatever the terms negotiated between the land holder the lesser and the lessee. I mean, that's whatever terms they negotiate, that's what it is, that we don't have any regulatory purview on that whatsoever. So this is really, it sounds like what I'm hearing is you have a resident or a group of residents that disagree with the board action, e.g. your HOA's board action, right? And you have a potential contractual dispute with another private party.

I think that the township didn't know that lot was going there.

Well, no, I mean, it was shown on the zoning plan, but at the end of the day, at the end of the day, that's up to you guys. If you want to allow them to put a parking lot in or not.

I mean, we don't, it wasn't up to us. That's what I'm saying.

I think I'm trying to articulate that there is some group that represents the whatever that has the ability to make representations for the people of your community by your bylaws. And I'm not an attorney, but there is a board that hires like mowing grass and contracts out landscaping, right. And does like maintenance and other things. So they make decisions for your group every day, right. Or whenever it's needed, right.

That kind of stuff, but not, not building of stuff or selling of land that belongs to the people that live back.

Right. What then, and what I'm trying to articulate is if you disagree with an action that your HOA board has taken, then I think your venue, that your venue is to pursue that against the HOA board. That's the best advice I can give.

Thank you. Sorry, Mr. Murphy. Thank you. Thank you for sharing that, Ron. Okay. Ms. Lydia Workman. She's still here?

Okay.

Ms. Workman, please just state your name and address for the record. Then five minutes, the floor is yours, Ms. My name is Lydia Workman.

Do you need my address also?

I do, yes, for the record, yes.

4038 Ashwood Court.

The floor is yours.

Okay. I saw on the news the other day about an old coal mine that is... no longer in existence for a few years now, but there's coal dust on the ground and they're concerned that that coal dust, we get a lot of rain here, right? Everybody knows when they garden. If you got any dust or anything on the ground and you get rain, that's going to seep down to our water supply. So my question to you, now obviously you guys were not there when all those apartments and condos, so we can't blame that on you because you guys didn't vote for that. But if this is discovered now and happening now, My question to you is how are you going to protect our water? We all drink, bathe, and cook with water. We need water. So that's my question.

I don't want to pass the buck. Uh, the waters, the County though, unfortunately.

Okay.

Well, and you have no say, so we don't have any jurisdiction over none. Mr. Ray says the coal player talking about is a new Richmond, which was the County back Jordan. Yes.

County issued a notice that they had an intent to Sue, uh, based upon the unlined, uh, it's a fly ash. It's the byproducts of burning the coal and they store it in these big pits. And I'm not an expert of it, but I mean, there's a lot there. And so the County just, there was in the news, the County issued a notice of intent to Sue, I believe on that because of there there's interceptor wells and there are other things in the well fields are down. I guess the way the water goes, the, the, the, the well fields are away from them, but it could get close or something like that. But anyway, Claremont County water and sewer is the entity that operates water and sewer in basically all the townships in the County that have water and sewer. So their boundaries are coterminous with county boundaries. Now, there are other private water entities like Western Water up in the northeastern part of the county and Tate Monroe, which is kind of south and eastern, you know, down by like Moscow and those areas, kind of the more rural areas. But for us specifically, It's Claremont County water resources is who is in the board of County commissioners that is in charge of taking those actions to protect the water supply. And again, full disclosure, my kids drink the same water that, you know, everybody here on the dias drink. So, I mean, it's, so they're the ones that are going to be the County commissioners potentially suing that that's yeah. And I think what, when do they meet? Is it the. It's like I don't want to give people bad information. Every Wednesday. There you go. 10 o'clock. Monday and Wednesday. Yep. There we go. Perfect. Okay. Thank you. Yes.

Okay. Now, Ms. Denise, you gave me one, but it's also for the new convenience store on 74. So you can speak now, but we will have public hearings on this as well. So it's your call. You can speak now, but we will have a specific public hearing on it. Okay. Yes, ma'am. It is tonight. It's just later on the agenda. Okay. Yes, ma'am. Okay. So is there any further public comments about anything? Okay, seeing none, I will close public comments. All right, we will, sir.

I just want to interject. The lady that just spoke, I believe she was referring to the back door plant that's actually to Pierce Township.

Correct, yeah.

They added that detail.

Thank you, Mr. President. Okay, department reports. All right, we will move on. And we have our fire and EMS services. Chief Clements, sir, floor is yours.

Thank you, Mr. Dills. In the month of May, the fire department responded to 198 fire and service calls, 595 EMS responses, making patient contact with 531 patients. We transported 440 patients to local hospitals. The fire department completed 1,249 hours of training. We're a part of 13 public education details. We hosted EMT, doctor, and medic ride time in a total of 28 hours. We completed 45 life safety inspections and 14 inspections in conjunction with Claremont County Building Department. And with tonight's two promotions, we are now full at the lieutenant level, which will open up to four overall vacancies within the department, which we are working towards filling. And that concludes my report.

Thanks, Chief Clemmons. Mr. Becker, any questions? No. Mr. Lode? No. Okay, good job. Thank you, sir.

And our Police Department, Chief Reese, sir, the floor is yours. Thank you, Mr. Dills. In the month of May, the Dispatch Center handled 5,261 calls for service, processed 503 juvenile and adult court documents for court processing, They handled 145 court notices for the officers, issued one vendor permit, handled 167 records requests, and redacted two body camera videos. In the area of public affairs, officers conducted two public relations events during the month of May, both of which were down in the polo fields where we did golf cart inspections for the residents down there. In addition, our department hosted participants from the Loveland, Miami Township, and Milford Junior Police Academy and trained them on our firearms simulator. In the Operations Bureau, officers took 324 incident reports, 101 crash reports, made 396 traffic stops, issued 149 citations, 249 written warnings, made 99 criminal arrests, 85 traffic arrests, and served 61 warrants. The police department currently has two open patrol officer positions and one open dispatcher position, and that concludes my report, sir. Good job, Chief. Thank you. Mr. Becker, sir.

Yeah, I've got a couple things. Chief, on the call-out reports, there's an item on here that unfortunately we see seems like almost every month. ATM jackpotting, safe cracking at the Sharefax Credit Union Ivy Point. I guess kind of a rhetorical question here is, you know, is there a neon sign out in the expressway that says, come rob us at the next exit? And these guys got arrested. They're from Chicago. What is going on here? What can you tell us?

This is just kind of, as we spoke in past meetings, this is just a trend that we're seeing across the country. We're certainly not alone in it. The group that we arrested that night, they were actually caught in Madeira trying to attempt the same thing. These are private credit union ATMs that they're hitting. I'm happy to say that of the three attempts we've had since the original one, um none of them were successful and we've made arrests on every incident uh with the help of some of our resources that we have out there with cameras and stuff so it's just a trend that we're seeing it's a venezuelan crime spree and uh we're certainly not alone with it trust me okay great thank you for that so the last thing i have then

A weapons offense on Glendale Drive. So as I was reading through this, I was just curious. So the suspect was shooting at a target in an unsafe manner, discharged a firearm on or near prohibited premises. So what was prohibited premises and what was unsafe?

Well, the gentleman that we arrested that night was simply standing outside his apartment complex shooting into a hillside with a pistol, which is against the law, obviously. We were able to identify him with the help of a few other residents. Unfortunately, they're just misdemeanors. You'd think they'd be a little more serious than that, but we prosecuted them to the extent that we could.

Okay, thank you. You're welcome. You're good.

Mr. Luke, sir? Chief, you say the jackpotting, you're seeing a trend as a Venezuelan crime Yes, sir. Is there any additional background on that? That's across the country for specifically this type of offense?

Yeah, these jackpotting offenses and what they basically are is you have one group of subjects will stop and they'll try to download malware into the ATM and then they'll wait a day or two and then the second group comes through, usually in the middle of the night, and then attempts to withdraw money, basically trying to get into the ATM through the malware. Every crime report and intelligence report that we're reading across the country is that this is a Venezuelan thing. And every person that we've arrested and we've arrested somebody on every incident we've had, whether they were successful or it was an attempt, they've been Venezuelan. So that's been pretty consistent. Interesting. Okay. Thank you.

You're welcome.

Thank you, Chief. And our service department, Mr. Matt Taylor, sir, the floor is yours.

Thank you, Mr. Dills. In the cemetery division from May 1st through the 31st, 20 burials were performed, generating $15,075. Fifteen resident graves were purchased, generating $10,500. Three non-resident graves were purchased, generating $5,100. Fourteen columbarium niches were purchased, generating $24,000. One cremation scattering garden was purchased for $600. The total amount generated for the period was $58,091. Parks Division, the park staff continues the daily cleaning and maintenance at all the township parks and weekly mowing and trimming is consistent in the parks as well. And then the roads division, a total of 131 potholes were filled on 15 streets. And a total of 27 work orders were completed on multiple township roads. And that concludes my report. Thank you, Mr. Taylor.

Mr. Becker, sir.

Mr. Wood. Mr. Taylor, we were through the park the other night. Again, I've never seen the community you know Clever Park Veterans Park so busy real testament to your team service and attention to it appreciate that I mean it's truly it's it's remarkable how vacant they were and now when you go in there's people basketball soccer the playground both baseball diamonds at Clever Park those young adults with disabilities having a co-league type game and pickleball and people in the dog park. Everybody was out enjoying it and using it. I like to think from a community benefit standpoint too that gets people out doing something positive and then we're not visiting the type of questions and stories that we hear in the investigative reports from Chief Reese over here as well too. So it's a layered approach for governance and we appreciate what you do for that. So thank you.

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Taylor. Good job. Thank you, sir. All right. Our planning and zoning director, Mr. Craig Foddy. Sir, the floor is yours.

Thank you, sir. I'll start out with the main inspections. We had 34 total inspections with 16 complaints. There were two unfound complaints with 14 warning citations issued. 15-day noncompliance letter totaled three with two 30-day violation letters going out. There were 15 resolved with or without action, 518 illegal signs removed, 14 miscellaneous issues handled, total for the month of 17 violations with 10 of them being re-inspected, and a total of 12 nuisance being filed. the Permit activity for the month of May, we had one commercial permit, seven change of use, two signs, 12 single family homes, four additions, three decks, seven accessories, 16 pools and fences, for a monthly total of 52 permits, totaling $13,030 in total revenue, which brings the total monthly permit numbers for the year so far to 216. with a total revenue of the year being 53,959. And that concludes my report.

Mr. Foddy, uh, Mr. Becker, sir.

Uh, I, I appreciate the, uh, the report structure with the, uh, the prior year actuals. Um, it's a nice quick reference to see where things are at. Um, like for example, multifamily development, It was a big zero. So, yeah, appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. It was your idea, wasn't it?

of year-over-year.

Mr. Foddy, good job on your first report, sir. Well done. Good to see you up here. Absolutely. All right, Mr. Wright, our administrator for the township, sir, the floor is yours.

Thank you, sir, and I'll be brief because I know there's a lot on the agenda tonight. So we're underway on the engineering for the Old State Route 74 sidewalks. That's the safety grant from ODOT between Schoolhouse and Buck Buxton. So, again, enhancing pedestrian activities. That's a 90-10 grant. uh we applied for stbg ta funding to oki for the sidewalk expansion along i colts that was reviewed today we received word under the ta that there were seven projects submitted and the amount or total submitted was just over the total funding allotment so i'm i feel very good that we might stand a chance in that funding bucket to extend that down to eastgate boulevard We also submitted a CDBG grant for Summerside Road sidewalks. Access control upgrades are in process. Oh, and one other thing, we also have a pending systemic safety grant for Summerside sidewalks as well with ODOT. Again, that's a 9010 program. uh the culvert lining that the sid advanced in cooperation with the township at miami view trail on terrace ridge is now complete the work looks outstanding it looks absolutely bomb proof uh and that should last at least another 30 to 50 years i would guess so uh thank you for your support and the sid uh for working to get that taken care of We're waiting on the road resurfacing program to start. As I mentioned, we were able to add additional roads due to the about 40% savings that we achieved through the county payment program at no additional cost to the budget. The Safe Routes travel plan work is underway. Mr. Woodruff and Mr. Flaude are working on that. We've had really strong engagement from the schools, which is good, and the parents that fill out the surveys in that. We're waiting on the official announcement on OPWC for the Elmont Drive Old 74 improvements. We unfortunately did not receive federal or state funding through the budget process for the feds or the capital budget for the state. The good news is the federal representative here was very receptive. It was just a matter of priority and they encouraged us to reapply for the fire training tower. We'll put that project on the shelf, continue to apply for funding until we're able to acquire enough grant funding to advance that. So and we do that a lot with projects. There was a question and I'd ask about Veterans Park. That is the phase one. That's a ADA patio enhancement for the pavilion and and Pond area that was paid for 75%. It's a reimbursement grant from ODNR. So again, returning state dollars back to Union Township in that 7525 on that. So that'll be very nice when that's done. That'll be an ADA compliant patio. All the tables that were procured through the county park grant program will be remounted on that. Um, so, uh, we have some housekeeping items for the CIC. Uh, we have a special use vehicle regulation resolution, which will regulate the specific behavior that was, uh, discussed during public comment. We have a Jed one contract amendment, uh, that, uh, we're working in concert with Milford. We have a second nature works grant application against 75, 25, trying to stretch those dollars.

and nuisance vegetation resolution for the board's consideration um and uh finally uh there is a consideration for a resolution of necessity this evening so we'll go into that good uh mr becker sir i'm good thinking okay yeah i was hoping uh i know it's tough when when when our department heads are just rattling off a bunch of things and so for what it's worth because Basically, everything is paid for out of a pot of money. It's called the general fund. And in this case, so he's telling us that basically we applied for sidewalk grants, and grants come from either the county, or they come from the state, or they come from federal. Basically, it's your tax dollars, but they're not directly associated with the township. And we're trying to apply to get those grants to come back and help us fund these projects. So that's what he's talking about when he says that. So thank you, Mr. Wright. Good job there. okay uh moving on all right public hearings and uh all right we got two tonight looks like our first one will be uh union township zoning case two dash two two dash z is in zulu it is for one zero zero five old state route 74 and uh okay uh mr you explain this one or just sure and mr flautie came into this late while i was wearing uh both hats and i appreciate him taking on one of those um

So this is a major amendment to a PD case. If we could put the PowerPoint up, please. That would be good. I think the first one is 222Z here. Major amendment 1005 Old State Route 74. This would amend the plan for a new 711 Speedway at the corner of Paul Drive and Teal Town and Old 74. There's an existing retail formal plan on this site that was advanced a few years ago but ultimately did not conclude because the sale fell through. We've had the property remarketed, have a very competitive offer in that, and this particular project would be, you know, a standard fuel center canopy and a convenience store in that. Based upon the review of the site plan, it's compliant with the comprehensive land use plan. This is in the Summerside-Willowville mixed-use corridor. We have these types of uses in the corridor. Infrastructure capacity has been significantly upgraded. Anybody that drives through there can see that. Uh, and you can see that the plan is compliant with both the county's access management standards and what the township advances with primary access situated off of Paul drive at the signal. And a other, another secondary right in, right out, uh, making use of the existing access point that was preserved during the reconstruction of old state route 74. The PD district regulations have been provided for the, uh, board's, uh, review as have, uh, the relationship and the analysis based on the comp plan, uh, in that. So kind of going through this proposal, you know, again, it's brick stones, masonry, some glass, uh, again, seven 11 branding on this. One comment we did have, the pillars need to have brick stone and masonry enhanced on that to match the building. Dumpster enclosures need to be similarly situated. Monument-style signage, again observing, you can see here the standard rendering for the canopy, not acceptable. We would require an upgraded canopy provision consistent with other projects that have been approved in the township. If you do look at that, they do have a sidewalk prior sidewalk that was added off Bruce Creek. We've noted that that needs to be preserved in that so that pedestrian access remains to that complex in the rear there. And then looking at the site, you know, it's got This is really a commercial review. This is consistent with the retail operation that was previously approved. And, you know, just looking at other items of congruence with the plan, you need monument signage. You have to have dark sky compliant lighting. And again, a lot of these things are things that we can work through during the permitting process in that. So there are I won't read all of them. There's ten recommendations. Those are posted online under the upcoming cases. Everybody can see those. Everybody sees the same packet you guys do. You know, agency comments, finalized plat with consolidation, pedestrian sidewalks preserved and augmented, high-quality building materials subject to administrative review and approval, including the pillars, parking areas shall be delineated with type 6 curb, drive aisle dimensions called out, final landscaping plans for administrative review and approval. Lighting for administrative review and approval, dumpster enclosure, matching the structure, signage, administrative review and approval, and compliance with other PD plan checklist kind of performance details that we'll handle at the staff level. The action this evening is in accordance with 680 through 687 of the zoning resolution to approve, approve with additional modifications, or deny this major amendment. And again, I presented the 10 staff recommended. I think there's 10. Did I miss one? No, I think there's 10. 10 staff recommendations. Happy to answer any questions.

So, Mr. Wright, do I share any questions for Mr. Wright?

Yeah, Mr. Wright, did I hear you say 7-Eleven branding?

That's what they represented, yes. So Speedway and 7-Eleven are dual-owned, and they can either go 7-Eleven or they can go Speedway. We received an initial proposal with Speedway. They since rebranded this to 7-Eleven. This is the most updated rendering we've received.

Interesting. Okay, thank you. I've been all this time thinking Speedway.

get their same parent court.

I thought the same thing.

Okay. That's all.

Any questions? No. Um, Mr. Wright, uh, what, what is the, how, how large is that land?

Uh, it's about an acre, uh, acre and a half, a little over an acre and a half, 1.5 acres. And then, uh,

Did I hear you correctly that this was somebody else had an LOI on this a couple years ago, and they were already previously approved, but the financing fell through?

Yes, we had a purchase contract that did not conclude. I was not here when the contract was terminated. I believe Mr. Campbell may have been here and had to refund earnest money in relation to that, but it was tied up for some time and then did not go through.

Got it. Got it. Okay. Just a little bit of history there. And we currently, the township currently owns that property, correct? Correct. Okay, sir. All right. All right. That's all I got. Okay, gentlemen, this is a public hearings case, and so... All right, gentlemen, I'll entertain a motion to open public hearings, Union Township Zoning Case 2-22-Z as in Zulu, PD Major Amendment. So moved. Second. And no discussion. Mr. Campbell, roll call.

Mr. Becker? Yes. Mr. Logue? Yes. Mr. Dills? Yes. The public hearing is open at 7.21 p.m. All right.

So here's how this works. We're strictly talking about this case. And when you have the floor, same thing as before, but this time I have to swear you in. It's a little bit different. And then there is no time limit. So if you want to be at the 10 o'clock tonight, we can, it's up to you. It's okay. Uh, so, um, but, uh, with that being said, I, you like to start with the proponents first. So potentially maybe the developers, anyone that is for this case, let them speak first and then, um, let everyone get through and then we'll go with the, the, the opponents that are against the case. And then I'd like to have the developers come back up and maybe answer any of those questions that might have come up that the folks were against. So with that being said, anyone that's for the case, please. Yeah, please come on up, sir. Yeah. All right. Because it is public hearing, I do have to swear you in. All right. Please raise your right hand. You can both come up. I have to swear you both in if you both want to come up at the same time. All right. Please raise your right hand. You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth. So have we got it? I do. Great. And then both of you just state your name and address for the record, and we'll get started.

Jason Horowitz, 9010 Overlook Boulevard, Brantwood, Tennessee.

All right. Perfect, Jason. Eric Carter with Y Engineers, 10505 North College Avenue, Annapolis, Indiana. Great. You said Eric? Yeah. Got it. Okay, perfect. Okay. Please, the floor is yours, sir. Please. Mr. Wright pretty much gave my presentation, but I did have a couple more slides in there.

We condense them for brevity.

Okay.

Yes, sir.

Yes, we we agree with all conditions preserving the sidewalks. We're adding sidewalks on Longpaw Drive there. You know, we've worked with township on upgrading the standard 7-Eleven prototype and we agree to upgrade the canopy as well. So Yeah. So, yeah, this as of Thursday or Friday, all new speedways that we've been working on are going to be rebranded to 7-Eleven, at least the ones we're working on in our company. But this is something that just came out. So this will be branded a 7-Eleven. And about four or five years ago, 7-Eleven bought Speedway. So they own and operate all the speedways around. But so this will be and this is their gen 2 prototype but we have upgraded it and talks with the township and you know making something nice and more than just the prototype so that's kind of what you see there all lighting meets the standards everything down lighting stays on site and we're here for any questions okay mr vice chair uh yeah i got a question so

You know, specific to this project as well as kind of generally of getting the gas stations more broadly, I've heard repeatedly, you know, I guess for years now, and specific to this, does Union Township really need another gas station? How do you answer that question to the public?

I mean, I could probably take that. And again, Jason here, obviously, thank you for Mr. I've been super helpful for a number of months, trustees, for your time. You know, I work again for GBT royalty. We're a developer. Nashville Brentwood, Tennessee You know we we typically kind of follow our retailers versus other developers that kind of go out and chase clients So this group 7-eleven is one. We've worked with for years They really drove us to Union Township to this you know we are working in a number of other townships and in Claremont County as well, but And, obviously, we don't represent all of the 7-Elevens, you know, going on in the 50 states in the U.S. But, you know, we really trust their research when they say, hey, we believe that there's the correct traffic count here on this road, on this street here at this intersection. There's, you know, local folks that may utilize it may choose not to. Free country there's folks that are visiting coming through on this state road that you know County Road Excuse me that will stop or not. But essentially what I'm trying to say apology not doing brevity to use your word. Mr. Corey We really trust the retailer when they say hey, we you know, we're gonna do well at this location We certainly you know are investing. I'd say I think this is about an eight million dollar project and we're not gonna go pour that into a township, county, city, if we don't think our end user's going to be successful. And so, again, I am not privy to all of their internal data of sales and how they believe they're going to be successful here, but they've clearly studied the market, you know, radius, radii of their other gas stations, competitors, like I said, households around here, customers driving on the road, so. condensing it, they believe they will be successful. There certainly are other gas stations, not the first one, but they see a need in the community and we're here to attempt to fulfill that.

One more question. So also, you know, so directly across the street there's a gas station, convenience store, just down a little bit in an immediate area is a drive-through beer place. You know, what kind of impact are the sales, particularly, you know, the same stuff that's at the drive-through, going to impact that? I mean, we don't want to see, you know, any small mom and pops going out of business. What are your thoughts?

I could take that. I would be conjecturing if that's a verb. Anecdotally, where I live in Nashville, there's a number of 7-Elevens that have popped up, a couple of which we have worked on, most of which we haven't. Other developers or 7-Elevens self-developed. I haven't seen a lot go out. It's also a growing city. This is obviously also a growing area. I just think I would be looking at a crystal ball and if I could say I think that they can coexist with other folks. Obviously, there are competitors, so they're trying to have some business, but I believe that they're looking at the growth in the area and more customers over time and not necessarily just trying to poach customers that are going to other competitors, sort of a coexisting type of relationship, hopefully. I can't predict that.

It's a look, sir. No, nothing at this time. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Becker. I had because when when Mr. Wright first informed me that you folks wanted to put your gas station on that land, I thought the exact same thing. I'm like, but so it's an $8 million investment project. Is that correct? Ballpark?

Yes, sir. Ballpark between the land.

So I'm assuming I don't have $8 million in my bank accounts. I assume you're a lot smarter than me. But I, I just was surprised because you get UDF and then you got the two other gas stations, the Exxon right there, and I was like, but, Yeah, I was very intrigued. I was like, I don't know how y'all are going to do it when there's three of them right there as well. I agreed. And so OK, fair enough. OK, that's good. And then if you could do me a favor, we're going to have some cards here. So we'll probably have some folks come up and talk. Whatever concerns they have, I'll try to write them down as well. But maybe so you can come back up and try to address them and just obviously plead for your case.

Well, I do have one quick question, or it's a comment that came to mind. Mr. Becker asked the question, does Union Township need a gas station? I guess I'll just pose, does Union Township need a million-dollar electric vehicle charging station? Because I am against that, and I oppose that still to this day. So I'm ready for you. When you want to rescind that, we can get it crushed and done. so say no to a million dollars being spent on electric vehicle charging stations i just need mr becker to help support that you're just charged up on that topic aren't you i you've heard me talk about it i don't want to see a million dollars of taxpayer funds wasted so all right thank you oh by the way uh you both you came from tennessee you came from annapolis

Oh, Indianapolis. Okay. Appreciate you both traveling and coming to our county very much, regardless of how it turns out. Appreciate you both traveling and coming here. Absolutely. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Thank you. Do you want to recognize this?

I want to recognize, and again, I forwarded this to the Board the day that we received it. We received a letter that was entered into the permanent case file from Suomi Petroleum Corporation. And that's Kuntal and Mona Patel, Swami Petroleum Corporation. I won't read the letter. It's two pages. The board has a copy of it and, again, articulates opposition to that. So I just wanted to make sure that that was recognized and entered into the record.

Roger that. Thank you, sir. Okay. Is there anyone else that is a proponent of this case that is for the 7-Eleven gas station? okay seeing none uh let's do opposition uh okay i got uh is it denise seiler okay denise and then i it is a uh public hearing i gotta swear you in and then state your name and address for the record okay uh raise your right hand do you swear tell the truth the whole truth nothing about the truth so hope you got it i didn't great then go and state your name and address for the record

My name is Denise Siler. I live at 4755 Shepherd Road. We have been in business in this township for 42 years. Our little drive through that one of you just didn't remember the name of when you were spouting up all the other ones. But we've been there a long time, the longest of all the other places. So we have seen more and more and more same businesses come in on a one mile stretch of road between Teal Town and Buck Buxton. And he said people will come through Travel through. Well, you can't travel through anymore because it's a dead end road now. It dead ends after back at 32. So it's not like a pass-through anymore. You have to make an effort to get there. And convenience stores, just in their whole, or just that, it's in the name, convenient. We service the people in the small little area over by where we are. People don't come from Clough Pike. People don't come from Milford. People don't come from anywhere else in the township. We service just them, and we have a very good loyal customer base, which is probably why we're still there when we're competing against five more convenience stores. Well, there's five total on that one strip. We're the only one that doesn't sell gas. We are not supported by a major corporation. And you asked how they could possibly sustain with that much competition. If you know anything about business, you know that they come in and they will lower their prices and lower their prices to steal our business until we go out of business, and then they'll jack their prices back up. That's how it works. We've been dealing with that for years. Now, I know a lot of the other stores, I don't really know the people I met Mr. Patel, last week, which is the only way I knew about this meeting at all, is one of our employees stopped in there and spoke with him. And he said, do you guys know about this? And we were like, no, we don't. The last thing our community needs is another convenience store gas station. It's just plain ignorant to put that many in a one mile stretch of road. There is not enough business to sustain all of us. it's just not there's one pie and it's been divided more and more and more over the years we can't just keep dividing that pie then there's not left enough for any of us to sustain if we keep making everybody slice smaller i'm i'm asking you not to do this we are a large part of this community we care about our community we've lived here our whole lives we raised our son here he's going to take over our business There's not going to be a business if you keep plopping down a new convenience store every five minutes drive. You can throw a ball and hit each one of us from one little area. That's how close we all are. And I know that other stores on the strip are concerned. I've talked to several of them. That this is just going to be less business for them. I mean, I don't have to worry about the gas part of it, but they all do. we just have to worry about the convenience store and i'm confident that we will sustain we'll probably have to make cutbacks like we did for the last three years with the road construction and the closure of the bridge less people going by our store we've had to make cutbacks and sacrifices but now that the bridge is open well i guess they're going to be cutting up in front of us again doing whatever it is they're doing down the road not sure about that yet they can't put flags in front of us So, I'm just asking you to, I mean, I know it's probably already a done deal and this is a formality, but I'm hoping not. I hope that you will do the right thing by the people who live in the community. We live in the community. I don't know about the people that own all the other stores, if they live in our community, but we live in our community. We built a business. This is our entire life's work. And every time you turn around, you just passed one, another tractor at the other end, just not too long ago. And now you're probably going to pass this one tonight. I hope not. I hope that you think about the actual people that live in the community, that they don't want this. You heard the people applaud. I don't know these people, but they applauded when you, Mr. Becker, said we don't need another one. We don't. It just... It's just a really stupid decision. There are so many more things that could go in there that would actually benefit the community, not just be yet another major corporation plopping down and bringing money from other states or owned by people in other states. We live here. need to stop adding more competition. I understand competition is good, but this is not competition. This is just mom and pop squashing is what it is. Mom and pop stores cannot compete against major corporations from other states that want to just open up another store in our business. Well, that's really all I have to say. I hope you make the right decision.

Mr. Becker, do you have anything? Mr. Loeb? I appreciate your comments. Thank you. By the way, Ms. Denise, I have been through your drive-through on a number of occasions, by the way, for what it's worth.

I hope we're still there for you to come through after tonight.

Yes, ma'am. I do have a question. I was talking with Holmans down the road recently, and they said that since the, again, long time planning, well before our board, but Now that ODOT and the roadways are open, they said that they have ramped up in their sales and their foot traffic and everything coming through. Have you, since some of the roads and bridges and things being, I mean, have you seen a rebound? Have you seen an increase? And they, they express, they expressly said, they expressly said to me that they're like the number three sales site in the state now, uh, for, for GMCs. So I was thinking the businesses surrounding there, are you guys seeing any type of anomaly down the road for an entire year redoing it, which is fine.

We knew that was happening. Then you closed down the one across for a year. Not us. We didn't close it, but since, since yeah. for a year before they even started the bridge. It's been closed down for three years. Traffic was routed from the area that we actually, all the customers all live back in that area. They would come down to Tiltown and they were routed left to be able to go over to Restaurant Row or Sam's or Walmart. Everybody was routed away from us. Yes, our business, since that bridge was down, did go down. We're hoping that now it's open and now the easy way to get back over there is to pass by us. You can't expect, we had a lot of customers from the other side of the highway that couldn't get to us conveniently. It takes an extra 20 minutes the way it was routed before down Bucks and all that madness. So I can't say that business has been better in the last five years. That happens. But that's strictly traffic. But now we're hoping that with the bridge being open, that we'll be able to pick back up the people that couldn't get to us quickly.

Well, if that's the canary in the coal mine for hope, that's what I was referencing, is that they have seen a large increase. I just wanted to hear your perspective. Well, the bridge has only been open for a few days. Correct, yeah. We haven't seen that increase yet. Right. And that's...

the hope that i have for you so okay thank you yeah and uh let me see if everyone that's that comes up to speak um i don't want to speak for all three of us but we don't we don't like it's a very dangerous slippery slope when the township owns land just to own land uh we don't like to do that uh and i i'm saying we so if these two want to correct me that they can uh so right now the township owns that property and and we don't unless we have to like we obviously own this property we have to but unless we have to we don't like to own property it should it belongs to the public it belongs to you know a business something so uh for what it's so my one question that i'll have for any other folks that want to come and speak um and actually about this zoning case and the next zoning case because we own that property as well um Is anybody willing to buy that property for the same amount? A number one, which may, maybe it's on a reasonable ask, but, but it's a question. And number two is if you don't want these folks to buy it and you don't want us to vote it down. Okay. Do you have any ideas, any suggestions? No, we don't want a gas station, but, but it's gotta be, you know, uh, cause we, we don't want the property. We need to dump it and get rid of it. The town is slippery. When government comes in and buys a bunch of land, it's slippery slope. I don't like it's dangerous. and i think i can speak for both these guys and they're more welcome to correct me but we don't want to go buy land that's that's not what we want to do so we own the property we don't want it we got to get rid of it uh and we got to make the best use for it so my my suggestion is tell us why you don't want it why you want us to vote it down but what else would you want us to put there what else do you want us to do with it um you know for what it's worth so uh okay next one i got is jace okay all right uh is it is it kunto patel all right sir please come on up four is yours And then I'll swear you in. Please raise your hand. You just want to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so be God. Great. Please, name and address for the record.

Kuntal Patel, 1006 Old Street, Route 74. Obviously, I own the Exxon gas station. We've been there since 20 years now. We're family owned. Exxon is the franchise name we have, but it's all owned by family. And we've been working there really hard, and we're trying to Within less than three miles, we'll have nine gas stations, two drive-thrus. So why are we killing all the small businesses? That's my concern. And when the traffic got redoubted now, as Denise said, to the other side, rather than they're making all right turns to get to 74, when they took off the 32s access to westbound 32 obviously that's lowered our business lot and now it has affected more and now we're getting bigger corporation which kills the gas prices in the area which obviously there is no money to it but they sell it below cost where we can't compete with them so they say they will compete they will not take the customers away but they do by lowering the gas prices by selling below cost where we can't small stores can't compete So that is my question. And why are we, you know, do we really need ninth gas station in that area? We could have a nice restaurant or any other where people can enjoy it.

Mr. Becker, sir, any questions? Mr. Logue? By the way, Mr. Patel, during the season, you have your blue ice cream, right? Yes, sir. I know that because I go there often. My kids love it. It reminds them of the King's Island ice cream, they call it, for what it's worth. So I go there often. But I appreciate you very much. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. Patel. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Okay. I got Nathan Royce. Nathan, I think you know the drill probably? Yeah. All right. You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so be God?

Absolutely.

Name and address for that concern.

My name is Nathan Royce. I live on Emery Ridge Drive in McGuffey Lakes. I'm going to say the same thing everybody else said. What's the address? What's that?

What's your address?

1186 Emery Ridge Drive in McGuffey Lakes. Sorry. Um, there's, I mean, it's kind of ridiculous. I don't know why they wouldn't do it other than they know that they can put four other gas stations out of business pretty easily. Um, makes sense. What I would recommend that the township thinks about is force them to buy one of those other gas stations to build there. If that's what they want to do, if it's such a great area for another gas station, go to there. I don't know. until well enough to know if he'd be willing to sell it. I bet he would if they're paying so much money. That's my thought there. How many thousand gallons of gas is underground on Old 74? Probably a little bit. Does anybody know? I do not know. So what speedway are you going to do at the other two gas stations at the other ends of those roads? One of them's a dump. The other one's a traffic nightmare. Now they're going to have another one sitting here against Mr. Logue. I just flew from Florida to drive my electric car home, so that's why I did that. I appreciate a lot of time.

So are you the one that told him, you and him driving around your electric vehicles together?

I'm not, I literally haven't got to drive mine. I've been in Florida at my other house. That's nice.

I feel so bad for you. I appreciate it.

You know, a lot of people up here are customers of mine. Kuntal and Mona are customers of mine at their houses, at their business. Speedway is not. The Speedway at the other end should be condemned for health reasons. I mean, it's, literally the most disgusting place and probably this part of my county minus a chicken wing place that we want to talk about. That's all I got to say is there's like literally thousands of gallons of fuel in this one stretch of land. Is it safe to keep adding more? I don't know. I don't know the environmental impact of more and more gas under the ground in the same spot. I mean, I think from all the stuff we've talked about in the past with Building new neighborhoods, which I love the idea of. It's more residential houses for me to do lawn care on. So I love this idea. But you're now talking about all this gas rolling down Teal Town to a nature center when they start leaking. So I don't know.

That's all I got. Well said. Thank you, sir. Mr. Baker, did you have anything? Mr. Luke? Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Roach. Appreciate you. Okay. The last card I have, is there anyone else that would like to speak on this? It seems like the consensus is kind of the same. Okay. And then, please, please, please, come on up. Oh, sorry. Geez, I'm off my game. All right, sorry. Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, anything but the truth, so help you God? I do. Please, name and address for the record, sir. My name is Corey Seiler, 986 Old State Route 74.

I'm going to keep it short. This is just going to hurt business for everybody who's already there. I know it's your job to build up more businesses, but it's also part of your job to help the ones that are already around stay in business. So either bring something new and shiny in or maybe support the people who have been here for years. Well said.

Okay. Well, we're going to offer a patent. Okay. Is there anyone else that is in opposition to this? Oh, please come on up. Come on, please. All right. And then, Miss, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth, to help you God? I do. Great. And then state your name and address for the record so Mr. Campbell can get it.

Sharon Novacek, 4658 Blackberry Lane off of, yeah, well, in Willowbrook off of Teal Town. Yeah. I think the point has been made about the saturation of gas stations in that whole area, and really I don't feel like we have the need for another one. And there's actually just another speedway. a mile or so down the road, so I don't know why we need two. But anyway, I do have a question for the developers on that lot. There is a very lovely buffer of trees and old shrubs, just greenery between the apartments and on two sides of the land. Buffer is that part of the apartment property or this property in question?

Question. Do you have that pulled up? Uh, Mr. Do you have that answer for us, sir?

I hope you're not asking me to see that.

Uh, there is a, there is some buffer there. Um, I think that some of that buffer is on the actual apartments. You can kind of see the property lines there.

Yeah.

So it's probably split down the middle. so they've got some of it there i mean clearing and grading you know they have to control the water on the site things like that but there will be i mean the apartments aren't touching their portion so yeah i understand so for the most part yes the buffer will be there because it's on the apartment's property you can actually see this is great if you look at this this has got the the site plan the line work overlaid on the aerial you can kind of see most of the line work and the site work stays completely out of that. Most woods are actually on the apartment project.

I'll trust you because I can't see it.

It's hard to see the lights kind of grayed out a little bit, but you see that kind of the brown area that runs like an L yes. Yeah. Where the cursor is. Most of that, most of that, if you see that dash line, more than half of it is on the apartment site. There you go. You can kind of see it there. So, And they don't look like they show much of an impact to that. In fact, the dumpster screen stops short of that. Yeah, because it goes around the other side, too. Yes.

OK. That's actually good, because if you live in those apartments, what you don't want to look at is the back of a gas station, stinky dumpsters, rats, mice, cats. So I'm glad to hear that. And as far as something else we would like to have built there, I would actually like you all to kind of think out of the box a little bit instead of gas stations, vapes, tire stores, um, all the usual fast food. Could we get like a graders in there? And if there's enough room for another small business, That's my suggestion, graders.

I'd settle for a Dairy Queen.

I talked to the graders' people last month. I keep on annoying them and annoying them and annoying them.

Continue, please. I would like to see something like that in that area as opposed to another gas station.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Miss. All right. Thank you. All right. Is there anyone else that's in opposition? No, you don't have to. It's okay. You can come on up. I'll get you next, sir.

Okay, Miss, you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and the rest of the truth, so be God?

I do.

Okay, then please go ahead and state your name and address for the record.

Holly Holt, 4627 Blackberry Lane, also known as Consistently Suspended on the Nextdoor app. So I will try to keep this brief. It's okay, please. And try to contain my emotions. I kind of disagree with Sharon about the ice cream, because then that would affect Mr. Patel's blue ice cream, which I really like, too. We have... We have the Ameristop down the street. We have the other gas station with the drive-through down the street. We have the Exxon. We have the UDF. We have the Speedway down the way. We have Meyer. We have Kroger, all with gas pumps. How much are we driving? It's ridiculous. I've lived here my entire life. Most of it on Teal Town or off of Teal Town. And I've never been to one of these meetings before, maybe when I was younger with my dad or something. But I've had enough of the overdevelopment, the construction. It's too much. I'm not against growth. but I'm against overdevelopment and I don't want us to look like Kenwood town center in five years or Westchester. We don't live here for that. Um, when, you know, I work downtown and when I tell people where I live, they're like, Oh, that's the boonies. Well, not anymore. Not anymore. It's not, we used to live out here because it was quiet because it was green now just because Something is green and flat. You guys want to build stuff on it. Can't we just leave it alone? Make it a dog park. I don't know. Make it a covered area with picnic tables. Something other than another gas station or a crappy fast food place. And I don't know if I'm going to stay for the whole meeting, but please no more apartment complexes. for high density developments, please. That's all I got.

Thank you, Ms. Holt. Mr. Becker, did you have anything? Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Holt. Thank you. Okay, I saw one more. Yeah, please, please, come on up. Okay, sorry.

okay please raise your right hand and then do you swear to a shirt the whole truth that's about the truth shall be god yes and there's obviously name and address record sir uh name is alex shepard i live on 826 massachusetts drive um i had kind of just like a a pivot possibly to there's a lot of opposition for the gas station but on the on my side of the overpass towards where jungle gyms what used to be biggs we used to have a marathon in front of biggs we've lost the uh udf in the last year or so. And the only gas station we have locally is Sam's, I believe, unless you go towards 125. Would there be any kind of pivot to not having the area across the Everpass be so congested and maybe allow a 7-Eleven to go in where the old UDF used to be, which was already a gas station, or anywhere we have vacant land on that side of the Everpass that won't affect the businesses that are already settled in.

What was your first name? Alex. Number one, I thought the same thing when Mr. Wright tells us this proposal. But, yes, so the UDF shut down, and actually UDF is working hard to get another retail outlet in there. But we approved last month on that side of 32 for, like, a state-of-the-art UDF to go in. So there will be a UDF on that side of 32, the north side of 32. Or, no, south side of 32. Geez, sorry. Over there, Buck Buxton, correct?

Clear.

Yeah, Klepper and Buck Buxton. Have you ever been to, like, the Miami Township one over by the Milford High School? Yeah. Very similar to that. It would be really nice. It's going over there for what it's worth. But that is it as far as a gas station.

We had the Alpha.

Yeah, but didn't they pull out?

They're indeed restricting. They, Alpha, does not move forward.

Yeah. So you know the property by, is it Sonic? There's a property by Sonic. Alpha wanted to go in there. But I think, I mean, they've kind of backed out from the last I've heard. We approved it, but they backed out. Yes.

I was just hoping there would be some kind of way that we could put a gas station where there isn't any gas stations and kind of everybody more or less wins. It might not be ideal for... that the most ideal situation for current local business owners and everything. But there's definitely places we could put it that wouldn't be, you know, in throwing distance of all the other businesses, because I have to drive not necessarily the overpass now, but I didn't have a Sam's Club membership until recently. I had to drive all the way to I think where Dollar General is close to 125 to get gas.

Yep. On the south side of 32, I'm not a Sam's Club member either, and so I can't get gas over there. I know you're – I do. I agree. You've got to come to the north side of 32. Alex, appreciate you very much. Thank you. I have one more thing. Please, please, please.

I just really wanted to express that I just feel like there's a lot of things you could put in there, obviously, like – covering the sentiment many other people have said that we don't necessarily have a need for another gas station. Unluckily, I don't have any idea for what could go in there. But there's got to be. There's just so many other things that could be a win for everyone that wouldn't compete with local business owners that would be here forever, that would still enrich the lives of people that have lived here and will continue to live here, other than a gas station. Like everybody else has said, I drive down there to go to the Roe Woods Nature Center frequently, and I don't think I've ever seen all those gas stations or Silers Drive and everything packed up the street or anything. We don't really necessarily have a need for another drive through another gas station. There's plenty of open stalls at all of those locations. Yeah, I just find it hard to believe that we have a dire need for another one to go in. That's that's all I have.

Thank you. And then, Mr. Victor, Jim, thanks for the show. No, thank you. I appreciate you very much. Thank you. Thank you. For what it's worth, it's funny because trust me, I get it. I've been harping on Mr. Wright for quite some time to recruit. Now I've got three kids. My oldest is going to be a senior in high school, but besides that, they're a lot younger. For an urban air, I have to go to Hyde Park. Every time I go to Hyde Park for an urban air, I always see people locally from Claremont County and Hyde Park at the urban air. And I'm like, Mr. Wright, get us an urban air for crying out loud. Problem is, is we can try and we can try to recruit and we can get it. But somebody's got to agree to pay the price, pay for the infrastructure, pay for the construction and agree to do business. So so for what it's worth, we can have all the ideas, but they got to be willing to to come here. And it's got to make sense. So for what it's worth, just give an example. Was there anyone else like to speak for opposition? if not i'll throw it back to the developers if they want to talk and address anything and then we'll close out uh this public hearing so developers if you like please come on up sir i've already sorted you both in so you're good uh the floor is yours if there's anything at all you'd like to address sure yeah the only thing i'll i'll add i mean obviously i appreciate everybody's everybody's comments it sounds like the the most of the ideas are that this is competition um certainly

that's not the idea. And that's, I, you know, I can't, like I said, crystal ball it and say how this business is gonna operate in one, five, 25 years. I hope it does well. I hope the others do well, but you know, at the end of the day, my company is, you know, has worked with Mr. Wright and the folks at the township before him to negotiate a, a price and purchase this property. Uh, we'd like to, you know, like I said, we were sent here with the user with seven 11, um and you know we would like to go through with that that purchase of the land and develop it so we kindly ask for you to approve this pd uh and again we're like eric said willing to agree to all uh conditions that are in that report i think we have uh mr wright spoke well on the landscaping i think i co-sign everything he said there and i think we're actually Going above the code minimum if I'm not mistaken. So we're we're certainly trying to be good stewards here and And create a nice-looking Heard references to other gas stations that aren't that well-run. I think these these new Prototype 7-elevens, you know, I personally shop at one and it's it's a very nice convenience store. So Thank you.

Thank you, sir Jason air pressures you both very much. Thank you. Okay, please. Yeah, please. Please mr. Riker. Sorry

So something I hadn't considered that we just heard from the public is the possibility that one or both of the speedways that are in that immediate area along Old 74, one of which is relatively small, maybe it's aging out, the other which nobody knows how to get to it. That's, you know, a challenge since they closed Old 74. What assurances can you give us that neither of those locations are going to close? And then we got some major blighted properties to deal with.

I think, unfortunately, neither of us can really speak to that intelligently or honestly. We're not, again, Eric's our civil engineer, our representative developer, landowner. We're not privy to 7-Eleven, obviously, again, who owns Speedway as well as other brands, Stripes in Texas. what they plan to do with those stores. They have not shared that with us, nor would they. If we called this afternoon and said, are you shutting that down, they would say, we don't know. And if they did, they can't share that with us. So really unsure. This is a brand-new store that we're proposing to build, hope to build, and unfortunately can't speak to any others in the area in Union Township, Claremont County, or other. So I apologize if that's not a satisfactory answer.

These guys are just building it. 7-Eleven owns and runs it.

That's right. We would build it and they pay a lease to rent, excuse me. We have a lease with them to pay rent to us.

Fair enough. Fair enough. Mr. Logan, any questions? No. Good. Okay. Jason, I appreciate you both very much. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, gentlemen, I'll entertain a motion to close public hearings case number 2022-Z as in Zulu. So moved. Second. All right, no discussion. Mr. Campbell, roll call.

Mr. Brecker? Yes. Mr. Lowe? Yes. Mr. Dills? Yes.

Public hearing is closed at 8 p.m. All right, now it's time for board comments. Vice Chair, what are your thoughts?

This is painful. I'm not sure that I voted against a retail establishment or commercial property, although I have voted against all of the residential properties that have come before the board. You know, hearing from the local business owners particularly, You know, I guess my hope is, you know, with the Glen Essie-Whittenville bridge now open, or that overpass now open, allowing more traffic to get in that area. Also, you know, particularly the drive-in experience with Siler's is unique, you know, and in both cases, there's a number of loyal customers. Also thinking in terms of traffic patterns, you know, if you're coming up teal town road, um, you know, hanging right, you know, heading, heading toward, uh, Glen Esty, Withmansville, obviously getting in and out of the Exxon, getting in and out of the silos and much more convenient than going across the street. Uh, you know, we do own that property. We've held it for a long time. I'm not sure how long, but decades, isn't it, Mr.?

It's at least a decade. I found photos back from when the SRT team demoed the church and used it for a bridge train. When the church went bankrupt and the township acquired it as part of the realignment for the road project. It was going to get, if everybody remembers the old church, it was right in where the road was.

flat so vineyard i remember yes yeah yeah okay so you know so we've been marketing this property for 10 years ish uh looking for something to go in there uh we thought we had a deal a few years ago with the same owners as the exxon didn't work out that was very unfortunate for all involved um so you know i i am i am struggling with this and uh I'm still considering how I'm going to vote. That's all I have.

Mr. Luke, sir.

Hey, yeah, thank you. So, yeah, I think that was nearly four years ago. The property was almost sold, kind of a strip mall idea. I believe three storefronts in it to have a restaurant, have a restaurant, the blue ice cream and a few other items. But yeah, the deal didn't go through. I forget the exact details of that nature. It did not pencil out for the buyers or the logistics of the layout to actually have parking lot to support that type of capacity. It just didn't pencil out. So Township and this board, right, we inherit we at least inherit the township holding land. And yeah, in the essence of Trustee Dill said earlier, it's not a good thing. We don't want to be holding land. We've already heard commentary tonight on parks and everything else as it is. But again, that's 1.25 acres. It's a really difficult location for anything. You have to be able to get the township out of holding land. And really, when you look at the other side of that returning, you know, roughly around $1,000,000 to the general fund, you can go straight towards safety services. Those are the type of questions and framework that you have to think through. So I know the longterm, yeah, I don't want the township holding unnecessary land. Um, I do think that the user experience, the relationship silers, I mean, you guys are so deeply rooted in the community and you know, from that sense too, I'm sure you've probably got history and knowing what teal town ball fields was like and how's it, how's it now. And you know, there are things that we can, keep a focus on to help those areas do even better, do better anyway. That's not lost on me at all. And again, the hope that with actually getting out of the time period of all the infrastructure, that weighs down on us too. I mean, again, township jurisdiction, The case that's before us right now, it's not about a lot of the things that we're talking about here that are the business, economics, that side of it. What's before us is really about the illegal entity that's able to build and construct and have curb cuts and landscaping and bushing and down lighting. It makes it difficult. But I do appreciate hearing everybody. Trustee Dills?

So Ms. Holt, first off, this is your first meeting. Welcome to your first meeting. It's very exciting, right? kind of sarcasm the uh so i think i think like uh even even on the next zoning case we talk about the land the thing is miami township and anderson township both have parks levies we we don't we fund everything out of that general fund which pays for the fire the police our service department which is our parks cemetery so we could turn into a ball or a dog park or a picnic area who's gonna pay to run that park and maintain it and mow it and do it and pay for the picnic tables and pay for all the manpower to go, all the township is, which comes out of that, again, that general fund. We don't have a parks levy. We can, but to go back to your point, And I believe it was the other gentleman back there. You know, my mother is 65. She'll be 66 and senior citizen. I don't want to tax anybody out of their home. I hate this. For example, later down on the agenda, the tax letter that we had to talk about, I hate it. I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to tax it. But do we do we put a parks levy up? Is that fair to maintain our land and turn everything into parks and land? I agree we should. Who's going to pay for it? Those are questions that Mr. Wright and Mr. Taylor have got to take care of, and then it ultimately falls on us. When Mr. Wright first brought in a gas station, I was like, oh, geez. It's an acre and a half of land. What else can you put there? And then we have to recruit a business to take it. Um, Ms. Seiler, I have patronized your business for a long time. And then, uh, our old, uh, cluttered courts, Barb Weidenbein lives, do you have the one down on Teal Town? Yes. And so I, I've been on the one at Teal Town hundreds of thousands of times. Uh, and, uh, it's just so convenient, you know, and, uh, and then obviously, uh, our blue ice cream friend, the Patels. And, uh, so I don't want to hurt small businesses either. So it's a tough choice. You have the the government side of we don't want to hold in, we got to get rid of it, and let capitalism do best in whether it succeeds or fails, or do we not hurt our local current business owners and residents that are already here. So that's the challenge I face. Any further discussion, gentlemen? Okay, let's call the vote. Mr. Campbell, roll call. need a motion oh i'm gosh i'm sorry off my game gentlemen i'll attend for the motion for the approval of union township zoning case 2-2-2-2 with all modifications second mr campbell roll call mr becker yes mr loge yes mr doodles no motion carries all right thank you everyone for that case that moves on we'll move on to the next one actually it's 8 10. Yeah, those passed two to one. That's how it went. Okay, gentlemen, it's 8-10. I'm going to entertain a motion for recess, brief recess.

So moved. Second.

Mr. Cameron, roll call.

Mr. Becker? Yes. Mr. Lueb? Yes. Mr. Dills? Yes. We're at recess at 8-10. Okay.

Five, ten minutes.

Yes. Mr. Dills? Yes. We'll return to session at 8.22 p.m. All right.

Next zoning case is Union Township public hearings case 3-17-Zulu. Mr. Wright, go ahead and take that over, sir.

Yes, sir. So this is a reopening case 3-17-Z in part to rezone four parcels and in part to basically change the approved plan. Originally, there were six parcels zoned for multifamily. Craig, if you could advance the zoning map, please. I'll try to be really brief to articulate this. So the gray you see, that's PD zoning. The gray was approved for 77 units, four stories. It was a subsidized senior project with a geriatric center.

the adjacent parcels that you see let me interrupt the blue i'm sorry he's colorblind everyone looks great sorry he needs the color portion okay i heard people saying what what colors look different to me than they look to everybody else it's like a terrible government joke right he's the planning and zoning and development right he's colorblind so anyway so that bluish whatever color that's that's uh

that was originally approved for 77 units at a geriatric center it was going to be uh tax credit uh subsidized the light tannish is that the right color tan yes those are the additional four properties that were sort of residual properties that were picked up as part of the uh icold's roundabout project and some some adjacency in that So with that, there's 10 parcels subject to this application. It is located in the Ivy point commercial corridor, uh, that point. And it's also located in a Glen Esty with this bill. I Colts road revitalization improvement plan sub area, uh, basically looking at this calling for higher densities, calling for mixed use developments, calling for entertainment, small scale, retail restaurant, walkability, Uh, very similar to the case that we heard, uh, with, uh, the, the three pod, uh, 10 and a half acre site around the corner. Uh, this specific proposal includes about a 9,800 square foot commercial structure near the roundabout and 8,400 square foot commercial structure opposite of the police department. And then there is a four story, uh, multifamily structure. That's the green block here that they are proposing 120 units, um, The prior project, as I indicated, was four stories, 77 units. So we're really talking about a net out of 43 units for that. And the retail square footage will trade plus or minus about a foot and a half per foot over the geriatric center. And again, you'll have to forgive me. That was a while ago. So looking at the plan recommendations, again, for the Glen Esty-Wythamsville area, the Glen Esty-Wythamsville-Eicholz Road areas, and these are plans previously adopted, eliminate blight, recurrence blight, encourage reinvestment, development of new housing and retail opportunities to prevent economic stagnation, facilitate development standards, facilitate revitalization, and increase overall investment in diversity of land use in the area. So, you know, again, if you look at this project, it achieves both of those objectives on those plans. The PD district regulations are provided for the board background on this. a lot of these properties came to the township by and through the assemblage of property for the icolts and glastonbury roundabout projects which were the part of the local match requirement for that nearly 12 million dollar transportation investment from the county the area is walkable as i mentioned earlier that tonight we're pursuing transportation funding to continue the sidewalks i know that's come up in a prior hearing. There are additional high density developments in the immediate vicinity and close proximity to large retail generators, traffic generators. Just looking at this, you know, If you see that it's consistent, it does create common open space. Craig, is there like a color rendering?

Yeah. And I wanted to point out, too, this was the previously approved plan.

So this is the prior approved plan. So you can kind of see it occupied kind of the bulk of this property in that. That's the current plan that's in place. That is the current plan for the site, yes. So then if you can go to the new plan, Craig. kind of give everybody kind of see how the orientation has changed a little bit. more toward the street, less of a suburban feel. We do have the one retail box that's sort of buried in that that the Zoning Commission recommended maybe to push that forward a little bit and to enhance the streetscape in that. I would note that the Zoning Commission recommended unanimously to approve it with 13 conditions at the May 27th meeting, finding that it met the comprehensive plan, a lot of different conditions about moving some pieces around on the puzzle board to kind of promote that streetscape aesthetic uh and to achieve the full objectives of those those area plans that have been in place um just kind of looking at a lot of the comments are really developed developed as sort of a uh From a site planning and permitting perspective, going through administrative review for building elevations, landscaping, working through permitting, working through clearing and buffering, and supplemental vegetation in that. making sure the materials are high quality, make sure the signage kind of has a certain feel to it. So with that, you know, the action, given that the Zoning Commission has made an unanimous recommendation in this to recommend approval with those 10 or 13, I'm sorry, 13 modifications. The board is to enter into a motion to approve as recommended by the zoning commission, approve with additional modifications, or deny the zoning map amendment application presented in case 317Z. Great.

Thank you, Mr. Wright. Any questions? Mr. Becker?

So, Mr. Wright, I just put all that in a couple of sentences. looking at uh three buildings two of them are retail and one of them is an apartment complex apartment building is that correct correct sir the uh two that are retail um do we do we you have any additional insights what's going to go in there i think that's a question that the applicant can provide us with you know additional testimony under oath this evening okay thank you go ahead um

greg can you pull up the the retail give me some kind of frontage on there and is that doesn't really do i was understanding that there's gonna be like a patio outdoor patio area is that correct proposed here towards the front of the roundabout okay got it got it okay uh oh i'm sorry mr logan you're second i'm sorry apologies please any questions for mr wright i'm good appreciate it yeah okay no good job explaining mr wright appreciate you thank you sir Okay, this is the same thing as before. It's a public hearings case. Gentlemen, I'll entertain a motion to open public hearings. Case number 3-17-Zulu. So moved.

Second.

All right. Mr. Campbell, roll call.

Mr. Becker? Yes. Mr. Logue? Yes. Mr. Dills? Yes. Public meeting is open at 8.30 p.m.

And same thing, I always start with the developer, and then we'll go with anyone that's a proponent, and then we'll go to the opponents, and then we'll go back. So with that being said, anyone that's a proponent or the developer would like to come up? Is this your chance yet? Please come on up, please. All right. Please raise your right hand. You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so be God. I do.

Please state your name and address for the record, sir. Sure. My name is Anthony Cook. I'm at 6759 Little River Lane in Loveland, Ohio.

Great. Great. Perfect. The floor is yours, sir.

So thanks for having us. We look at this project as a little bit more of a pivot from what is already approved. So as you guys all just saw, there's already an approval in place for an apartment building. We're going to largely kind of continue that. We're going to bring in several aspects, though. We're going to make it a bit more walkable than the previous presentation or the previous approval has in place. And we are going to go with all of staff's recommendations. There were 13 recommendations that were requested of us. We're happy with all of those. Those are public record and we'll make modifications accordingly. The project fits in the community a little bit more uniquely, I think, than some of the others that might be presented. There's already in this very area some density of apartments, and so there's some commonality that we would keep that density localized in there. Additionally, the roundabout was constructed, and this land was kind of created for this specific purpose. This fits the overall land development plans for the township. With regard to the question on tenants that we'll be looking for, we're going to be looking for largely local. These are small-time retail, so each of these buildings is only around 10,000 feet or actually just under. We'll be looking, you know, local restaurateur, ice cream, coffee shop, things of this nature. The goal there is to be a complement to the apartments that are local as well as the local residences in the area. The buildings, so we're looking at doing very high quality exteriors on these buildings. There are no back ends. All these buildings will be four-sided finished buildings. So whereas you might sometimes see a rear, you know, a typical rear to a small retail with lots of, you know, electrical and things of nature that aren't particularly nice to look at, these will be a four-sided building with quality materials on all four sides. We are planning on having one and two bedroom units only. The project does not include, on the residential side, the project does not include a significant number of amenities. You'll notice it doesn't really include pools, it doesn't really include playgrounds. As such, we're really not intended to bring a lot of families with children. This will be a mostly will attract, you know, local business type folks, medical professionals that may or may not live in the community that often will live in more sorry, pardon me, work in more dense areas such as downtown and want to come out to the suburb area like this to live. The rates for the residential will be market rate. So specifically, it's going to be middle plus market. It will not include any sort of subsidized rent structure. Additionally, and on that point, residents who apply for these units must indicate an income that is at least three times more than the rent rate and must pass a criminal background check. These are important points because this prevents us from a lot. Well, allows us to prevent a lower income type of tenant in there and thus keep the property a higher value for a longer time. overall we you know we're excited to bring this project to the to the township we think it's a good project for this exact site and we hope you guys will approve it that's good yeah Mr. Becker any questions sir yeah did I just hear you right lower income tenants keep the

value of the property higher? Is that what you said? No. I'm sorry. I didn't repeat what you said.

I might have misstated. Sorry about that. So the goal is with an apartment project like this to keep a higher income tenant in that building.

Somehow I heard lower income. I'm sorry.

Yeah. And for obvious reasons. It reduces the crime element, reduces just all kinds of the negatives.

So for the two retail buildings, do you have anybody penned to be in there with leasing?

Not specifically. Again, we're kind of waiting until the process goes a little further. When you talk about tenants of this type, they're a short burn. So if we approach, for example, an ice cream shop, it's going to be a 60- to 90-day negotiation and they're going to be ready to start. So we'll go after all the tenants just as soon as we get our green lights and we start that process.

And timeline, when do you think you'd have the two retail buildings up versus the apartment building?

It's a good question. So the two retail buildings are intended to be what you call a phase one. So we would start with that portion of the property. Um, once that gets done and we, some income begins, then we'll move over to the apartment side of the project.

Okay.

However, however, and I do want to be clear. the main Boulevard going in and the walkability and sidewalks and things around the site can be done all in that phase one.

So the two retail buildings are going to be built being, they'll be constructed at the same time.

That's right.

Okay. That's all I have chairman. Thank you.

Mr. Luke, sir.

No, I appreciate it. Thanks. No questions.

Well, ballpark, um, what will the, for the one and two bedroom, what's the ballpark, the rent price?

The one bedrooms are right at, I think, 1700, and I want to say the two bedrooms are up at around 2100, 2150. Okay. Perfect.

no good uh okay uh mr cook i think that's all i have uh perfect and then if it's okay after we hear from anyone that's opposed to your project whatever questions or concerns i'll probably call you back up if that's okay to address this yes thank you mr appreciate you very much thank you sir okay is there anyone else that is in favor of this project as a proponent please miss come on up That's okay. That's okay. Let me swear you in. You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so be God. I do. Name and address for the record.

Angela Lacey, 4229 Deepwood Lane. So Deepwood Lane is just around the corner. I'm pretty much in the epicenter of all of the apartment development. I hear my neighbors. I hear my community. I know what's happening to my schools. But I'm a tad bit torn here.

I also make a living.

managing apartments and managing multi-use resident or developments. So what I see happening here is that one, we're already halfway across the finish line. The zoning or at least part of it is already in place. So I'm certainly not picking up any new Christmas cards this year being for this. But my position is this, if we pass on this deal, if you guys are gonna vote for apartments, This is the ones we want. This is a good operator. This ownership group has roots and interests in our township. They're not like the big box that we've already allowed to come in who doesn't have a vested interest in what's happening here or have the history with us. I love, again, I'm an industry professional. As far as the schools are concerned, I love the mix of this makeup. One and two bedrooms, one bedroom with a den. Mr. Cook was right on point with the price points. That's not cheap apartments. If we pass on this, everything else around us, I've done the research, I looked at it, I know it, I did it as early as this morning. These apartments are leasing up like crazy. Specifically the subsidized, which none of us like. Thanks for not voting for that because that wasn't during your time. If we pass up on this deal and they see the success rate of these other developments that has gone in, the next person up here speaking won't be Mr. Cook. It will be somebody proposing more subsidized housing. So I'll take this. I'll take the win right here. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

Vice Chairman, any questions? Mr. Luke? no i really appreciate that thank you for sharing your perspective thank you for doing your research thank you very much thank you miss the um okay is there anyone else that is in favor of this project a proponent okay see none let's go to and i got cards here um well mr glisson He's no stranger. Mr. Glisson also serves as a volunteer on our Parks and Recreations Committee. Appreciate you very much, sir. Let me swear you in. Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, anything but the truth, so help you God? I do. Great. Name and address for the record, sir.

Rich Glisson, 816 Massachusetts Drive. Perfect. So I'm here to oppose the project, obviously. In the last 10 years or so living in my subdivision, I've seen an apartment building go up on Clough Pike across from Forsythia. I've seen the apartment complex go in at Eastgate Boulevard. I've seen the one go in right behind the Gerber Auto Collision Center, which is a little bit further down on Eichholz. I've seen the Gentry apartments go in. I've seen the Echelon apartments go in. I've seen the ones go in at the old Glen Esty site, the ones that are across from Jeff Weiler. The traffic alone in that area has become ridiculous. My subdivision, if you want to call it that, I guess it is an older subdivision, has one way in and one way out, and that's right at the helicopter across from the helicopter park. Traffic that flows from the roundabout out towards Clough Pike is backing up at the light and backing all the way up into the roundabout. When people go to turn left into Clough Pike at that intersection, they're crossing the double yellow line and coming into the turn lane that's dedicated to turn into Lexington Green. There are people who are turning left to go into the park. Traffic has become a nightmare. Sometimes can't get in, sometimes can't get out, along with other zoning issues that we have going on in the neighborhood. I don't want to see this project go through. Not only that, but now looking at this map here, seeing where the traffic's going to enter and exit between the two roundabouts, having another form of traffic entering in between the two roundabouts. I don't know how often you people travel the roundabouts, but the people who live here that travel the roundabouts on a normal drive home. I work on the west side of Cincinnati, and when I come home, no matter which exit I get off at, unless I go all the way to 125, I have to go through two roundabouts just to get home. one here and up towards Walmart, and one here up towards the Glen Esty High School. putting another exit, a route for 122 apartments or whatever, and these retail businesses to exit in between those two roundabouts, people stop all the time at the roundabouts. They don't know that it's a yield and people stop there. It's backed up in between. If I come home at five o'clock in the afternoon, traffic sometimes is backed up between the two roundabouts, along with being backed up here going towards my house. Along with, even at the Station 51, where there's a sign that clearly says don't block this driveway, people block the driveway two lanes deep all the time. I'm surprised it hasn't caused the fire department more problems when they're coming out of there to make emergency runs. So I don't want to see it happen as a resident. I understand that you guys are in a tough position, and I appreciate each and every one of you for what you do. You have to balance bringing in revenue and spending revenue. But I don't want to see this project go in. There's been way too much increase in traffic already, way too much density increase in new homes with apartment multi-use or multi-unit buildings. Obviously, hearing this tonight doesn't sound like it's going to affect the schools, but the schools are overwhelmed already, especially Clough Pike Elementary. They're busting at the seams. Any more kids coming in here, and they're not going to be able to afford... The school was just rebuilt in 2015, renewed to new status or something like that is what the state called it, and they're already having to add on to it. They need more money to add on to the school because the population increase has gotten so big. It's just not fair to the area. So, that's all I've got.

Thank you, Rich. Mr. Becker, did you have anything? No. Mr. Lou? No, thank you. Thanks, Rich. Okay. And then, okay, I got a, it's a hyphen. Michelle Gleis-Ribbon? Robin? I didn't put two and two together. Yeah, please. Okay. Ms. Michelle here. Let me swear again. You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and the above the truth. So I'll be good. Great. And then, uh, name and address for the record.

My name is Michelle, Liz Robin. I live at 682 Redwood court. Um, this is my first time here at a meeting. I was watching signs go up, driving from my house to my mom's house and I'm busy. So it was just like, what are those white signs doing across from the police station? And I did it a few more times and I'm like, I'm like, oh, I bet they're going to cut those trees down. So, because that's what everybody does now is cut down trees for the most part. So I came here and I'm disappointed that the Silers didn't even know that you, that there was a possibility of a seven 11 going in down the street from them. They found out from a customer. So I guess that's on us. I don't know. I'll have to learn out more how to find out information about how to keep abreast with what's going on in my community. But, um, I'm glad I saw the signs. I'm glad the customer told the Silers. Um, but I'm hearing more about your business end of things and stuff like that. I'm happy being a preschool. That's teacher. That's my niche, but, um, the pros and cons of having, um, property stay there and whatever, but there was like a hundred or so many people in this room. We could have brainstormed for something to go in for that seven 11 is how I feel. or they could have maybe refurbished the speedways that were already there and spent their money that way or got money that way. I don't know. But I was told that you all didn't vote for multifamily unit apartments years ago. I'd like for you to not vote for multifamily units right now. I think he articulated very well the traffic that's crazy in this whole area. I don't know, like something about blight was said. I don't know how to incorporate more trees because the properties that were built with those multi-units, how many trees are back in those properties that are where the old Glen Essie High School is and stuff like that. There's no trees for kids to look at and for us to look at hardly. I mean, there are the parks and things like that, but some people can't get to those parks. They don't have the transportation and the gas money and stuff like that, too. So not well articulated, but... I really hope that instead of a business situation, I don't know, something else could be done just to preserve the greenery of that space in that area.

Okay. Mr. Becker, anything? Mr. Luke? Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Michelle. Appreciate you very much. Thank you. Thank you. So Joanne Meyer, she's still here? Come on up, Ms. Joanne. Okay, Ms. Joanne, please. I'll swear you in. You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and the above the truth, so help you God?

I do.

Great. And just name and address for the record.

Joanne Meyer, 4505, sorry, erase that, 4504 Dominique Drive. Wow. I'm not really a proponent or an opponent of this particular thing. I am here to gather some information. I need to understand some processes. But before I ask that, I did want to piggyback on Mr. Glisson about the incredible traffic issues that we have now. I dread to see when these multi-unit uh, apartments, condos, all the things that they are, especially that huge one between Bach Buxman that comes all the way across to Glen Esty with them. So when those get filled up, I don't know how we're going to get anywhere. Anyway, that's that I'm concerned about our traffic, our future traffic. My questions are about, and maybe I'm in the wrong place. are about the zoning commission. I would really like to know if you all could explain to me what is the criteria that is used when a zoning is either requested or granted to change that zoning to enable condos or apartments to be built in that area. I would assume that there's a criteria that needs to be met when a zoning area is changed. Part A, Part B of that question is, is somebody, is anybody concerned when those zoning areas get changed about the impact that that has environmentally on the people, on the constituents that you represent, and on the whole health of our township. I'm a person that moved here because I loved what I saw when I came out here. I loved the green. I love the green spaces. I love the parks. I think your parks are wonderful. But I am seeing, pardon me, what I call the rape of the land around here. And it really distresses me when I saw all that greenery cut down where the addition that I mentioned earlier is going between Buck Buxton and Glen Esty, Withamsville. and all of those trees are gone, it just takes my breath away. When I go down Amelia Olive Branch Road, And I see all of that. And a lot of that was farmland. But at least it had some greenery to it. And now all I see is land moving machines pushing all that stuff away. And I'm probably what you would have called a tree hugger back in my youth. But I am concerned about all of that. I see on television continually the floods, the floods, the climate change, the climate change. If we keep cutting down our greenery, we are contributing to that, I think. That's my opinion. I think there's some research that backs that up. So if you can explain to me what the criteria is when you change zonings, can you enlighten me?

Sure. Just so there's no mistake, I'll have Mr. Wright do that. on how the process works.

Would you like me to go ahead, sir?

Yeah, please, please.

So the way zoning has changed in Ohio in townships, we follow ORC Chapter 519, and it's specifically Chapter 519-12. And so any person may initiate a zoning map amendment or, you know, there's two other ways to do it, but I won't belabor the statute. But basically what you have is an application filed this evening to change partial zoning. And so it goes to the zoning commission. The zoning commission looks at what the prior and this is really distilling this down.

Good. Make it simple. Sure.

The zoning commission looks at the prior zoning, looks at kind of the area, looks at what the comprehensive plan for the community says, looks at any area plans, looks at the proposed zoning district, and then they have to basically make a qualitative evaluation of the project in relation to what is proposed versus what is existing. And how does it align with the comprehensive plan, which is kind of a it's like a guidebook for the community, right? Like in this area, is in a specific comprehensive plan. Most people don't realize most of the township is not in a specific corridor or focus area, and it's just recommended for kind of lower density residential, okay? Two and a half to four units an acre, and that varies because we have R2, which is four units per acre, quarter acre lots, and we have R1, which is half acre lots. and then we have small slivers of large lots like like two and a half acre lots okay and then you've got areas of business and then you've got areas of industrial but we basically have all these different corridors and the zoning commission looks at the proposal in relation to you know the stuff around it how does it fit in relation to the the existing rules governing the proposed district and then they vote and make a recommendation to the board From there, it then comes to the trustees. So the zoning commission makes a recommendation and then they forward it on per statute within a prescribed time period to the board of trustees, which then either can approve as recommended, they can approve as submitted, approve as recommended, they can add additional conditions or they can deny it. That's basically how that works. And is there usually a public hearing like today about there, there was a public hearing on, um, was it may 27th, correct? Yes. Yes. So yeah, it was on a Wednesday. It was a couple of Wednesdays ago. So the zoning commission has the same hearing as a hearing to consider the case and then make a recommendation to the board of trustees who then have another public hearing and then. make a determination on that. So that's that process. And they weigh all of this stuff, comp plans, area plans, the existing regulations, and the proposal on its face.

And we explicitly pushed for more communications to the residents with that too by putting signs out in the community and mailing the proximity, neighbors, a notice of the zoning and hearing cases as well. So that was an improvement for communications.

But it sounds to me as though the highest criteria is an economic one. Is that generally true?

No. It would generally be true towards what's within the jurisdiction of what the township of what the board has the ability to look at. If you own the property and you want to do something like silos were here earlier tonight, they had a project a few years ago where they wanted to put a second drive through and and a lot of people were in opposition to that. But at the end of the day, they own their property and it's kind of bad on government to come and tell you what you can do on your property. So if it's legal, and it meets the overall like feel of the community to again, back to lighting, curb cuts, bushes. Like if you want to put bushes on your house, no one's going to tell you, you can't put bushes in. Great.

Yeah.

I mean, and that's, that's the dynamic. So now, now if you want to buy your house and you want to put bushes in and put a pool in, I could say, well, you're just trying to do that to up your resale value. That's an economic leverage, right? You're like, I might just want bushes in the pool. Okay.

I would just like to leave, leave you all with my hope that Union Township and, and, and most of Claremont County can stay as green and country five. I mean, I moved here to get away from the city and I feel like now I'm being surrounded by city. And I think a lot of people have the same feeling. So I would love to see our township stay country fight and green and, and with a, with a real need to listen to the constituents and their needs. Um, that's my hope. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Thank you, John. That's all the cards I have. Is there anyone else that is opposed to this? Miss please come on up. All right. Let me swear again. Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and let the truth so be God? Yes. Great. And then his name and address for the record.

My name is Emily Sharkey. I live at 826 Massachusetts Drive. I just have a few questions. On these three buildings here, which is the apartment building?

The one in the back, the big one.

This big one in the back? Yep. And how many units are going to be in there?

Um, it's already approved, which we have nothing to do with as 77. They're asking for one 20, one 20.

So when you say already approved, does that mean we can't do anything about that part now?

Sorry, sort of, um, go ahead.

I mean, if you want to address that, so Craig, can you put the zoning map back on the old one?

We could be built to that plan without any further action.

We have a 77 unit. proposal that was already approved in that blue, gray, whatever, I'm sorry, whatever color area. Craig, can you put the old site plan back up? Yep, that was what was approved. So that, you know, that's on the books. And, you know, structures have been demolished, you know, utilities, whatever. So again, if somebody came in today, it doesn't mean they will, and said, hey, I'm going to build this. I don't know that there's anything we can do.

We can't stop because it's already been approved prior.

Correct. Or, you know, a significant amount of taxpayer resources might be expended to try to stop it. And I don't think that's anybody's interest or whatever. That's ultimately not my decision. That said, so what we're really talking about is we're talking about 43 additional units in retail at basically what is now a hard corner, the roundabout. Go back. There we go. I'm not even going to guess what color those buildings are. Yeah, that's OK. I think the apartments are green.

Orange.

Orange, OK. And then these are red this way, right?

Right, the other two smaller ones are red.

Those are commercial. So that tells you how bad that color blindness is there. So it's basically they're adding kind of four parcels that they did shift some of the residential onto one parcel. There's a larger R1 parcel that kind of sits in the back and has access to a drainage way in that it's kind of a detention sort of stormwater play there. But then they did extend, you know, a portion of the units into that. And then the rest of this is kind of residual property that was left over from the roundabout acquisition in that. And that's where the retail is being added.

And they're considering you said this is not the final draft. They're still going to move things like this one in the middle is potentially going to be closer to the road.

They've talked about the zoning commission wanted more of a streetscape feel, particularly with the commercial. If you look through the conditions, one of the conditions talked about enhancing pedestrian infrastructures throughout the site consideration given to moving the retail restaurant buildings closer to the street reducing the frontage style parking appearance so like you know if you've ever been to a large retailer and you got an ocean of parking in front and then the buildings that's what you know kind of way back or whatever kind of wanting kind of wanting to bury the parking field kind of behind the structure.

You see the building first and then all the parking kind of hidden behind the building. Right.

So it's like the walkable traffic. Yes, that was one of their recommendations.

I think my main concern, I wouldn't be too mad about some more retail spaces going in because I feel like a lot of it has just been residential, residential. And maybe we could use some more stuff to do back here. I am concerned, like they said, with the roundabout traffic. We don't know quite yet what that's going to do since the roundabouts are new, the overpass is new. I'm not really sure. Maybe people are still figuring it out. But I am a little concerned with it getting let out there. If you're saying that the apartments are already approved, what are we hearing about today then?

Tonight's the additional. So going from 77 to 120 total units and then also the commercial, the the the the the retail, the restaurant, coffee shop, ice cream. That's the two things we're basically looking at.

I'm concerned about them adding more units because I was already a little not sure about apartments going there. Like we've already gone over ad nauseum how many apartments have gone in recently in this area. Like they've said also, I moved down here six years ago because it was so green and quiet and seemed like a small, tight-knit community. I'm very upset to see that someone here with a local owned business that she's been here for this long was here crying, trying to not be put out of business. And instead we've replaced and just added in more 7-Eleven there. I just I just all of these things are kind of culminating to feel like we're losing the small town charm and trying to be too big. And that's not really why anybody lives here. I feel like, you know, Sorry, I don't do great with public speaking, but this is my first time here. But I do concur. There was so much greenery here and all these trees and just seeing all of it get demolished. How much does it cost to really sit on the land you guys are talking about that you own? Is this owned by the township or already owned by?

By the township.

um i just don't understand how why does it need to be sold how you keep saying you know you don't want to hold on to the land what is the reasoning for that does it cost a lot of money to hold on to it is it just not wanting to to monopolize and hold on to something so other people can't have it what is the issue with holding on to the green spaces well i'm going to take my perspective

And I don't want it to seem like it's a far-fetched dream. We don't want to own land that we don't have to. We obviously have to own our police station. It makes sense. We have to own this building. It makes sense. But unless we have to, we're not in a game of business. And so it sounds silly, but if anybody wanted to buy that land and offer us the same amount the developer is for fair market value, buy it. but we could stay green and could stay trees and stay whatever you want. I don't care what you put on there. I don't care. But we don't want to hold onto it. Number one, it's slippery slope. He is gone in seven months. He's up for reelection next year. And I'm up in three years. Sounds like I may or may not be here. Who knows? But I think people have misconceptions. Like you said about not knowing when things were approved. Trust me when the ones on Klepper and buck bucks to win me and John, me and John were like, Oh my gosh, what terrible perception? We didn't vote for that. We were up for reelection last year. And we're like, we had nothing to do with that guys. But, uh, So here's the question. If the township still owns that, and he's gone in seven months, he may or may not be here next year, I may or may not be here in three years, and you have a new board, what are they going to do with the land? Because I don't like government monopolizing land. Get it gone. If somebody wants to buy it and keep it and keep green, or if somebody wants to buy it and put one house or apartment. But it's a slippery slope when government comes starting to buy up land. Yeah, I do get that. But then also... She left, but to Ms. Holt, what she said was, well, can we put a park there? Can we put picnic tables there? Sure, but now you've got to go look at that guy, Mr. Taylor, and you've got to look at Mr. Wright, who writes our budgets for everyone, and say, okay, who's going to pay to manage and run this new park we just put in? And the employees to run it, and then who's going to pay for the infrastructure? That comes out of that general fund I was talking about. Because we don't have a parks levy.

I wouldn't really want a park there.

Which a parks levy means... the houses y'all own we're going to add a little bit taxes to that pay for that parks like Miami Township has like it but we don't have that here so we have to find ways to create money to pay for really Mr Taylor's services which is all of our parks or two well we have three parks and then plus the cemetery plus your road your potholes and all that he does all that and we have no parks levy and we don't have a roads levy Miami Township does Anderson does Union Township does not which means more property taxes Those are just, so it's like, hey, why don't you just keep the land union township? It's a slippery slope if government's owning land when they don't need to be owning land. And number two is who's going to pay and where's the money going to come from to maintain that land and keep it the way we want to keep it?

The way it is green now, it costs money to keep this way?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it absolutely does. Yeah. And so, and then what do we do with it?

And then there we have live, yeah, you keep it green and then let's say, sorry to interrupt you, but, you know. Let's say that someone sets up a tent. Let's say that someone starts sleeping there. Then we have enforcement. We have criminal issues.

I don't know that we need to jump immediately to that. Well, people sleeping in the woods just because there's some trees.

I will share with you before we invested in Klepper park to clean it up, there was people starting to sleep and stay in the woods there. And there was drug use and paraphernalia and stuff that was becoming a nuisance and an issue to the community. And so we, I said, Matt, clean this up, do the underbrush, get this cleared out. So, you know, you can visibly see through. And those are things that take take off.

So it's you had drug users in the woods that you had to go deal with Clever Park. That's a chief reason.

I don't know if you really want to know the answer to that question. I do. I'm kind of curious now. I started to go down a rabbit hole in the news with the homeless problem and I got reamed over it. And I'm like, you have no idea the homeless problem.

And it really is a problem because, you know, they don't have anywhere to go, but also we don't need them.

Then think about that. Hey, guess what, everybody? I mean, he's talking about Venezuela crime gangs coming through here and jackpotting, right? Guess what, community? There's this place Union Township. The government's just buying up everyone's land and keeping it green. And they have no tax revenue, so they don't have any police or fire or safety services. Let's go set up our tents there.

I mean, I'm not trying to make a far fetch, but that seems a little fear mongering to me, but I do get what you're trying to get at.

But when we're charged to look at five, 10, 15, 25 years into the future, we don't want to set that as a bad precedent that it sets the environment for that to take place. But what you're hearing and what I'm hearing from you is a conservation fund. That would be appropriate. A conservation fund needs to be Sierra Nevada Club. I don't know if that's them correctly or not. Hey, we want to buy your piece of property. Awesome, please. But as a local government like that is not our mission set to to tax taxpayer dollars and buy up land and just sit on it.

I just worry that it's just losing all the green and charm in the small town. We're driving out the local business owners for the out-of-state developers to put in a giant chain gas station, and we're putting in all these. I just don't think that we have the, do we have the infrastructure road-wise? Who decides that there's enough road for this many people to be in this small but dense area where there's only two main roads back there, no? Like going to those roundabouts, they go one lane each way. What?

You make me want to joke with you for a second because you told me I sounded fear-mongering. I want to say it sounds fear-mongering on the roadway. We just had ODOT do like $22 million of infrastructure all through there. And so it is going to, I mean, that has been part of a long process.

Right.

To set up the traffic infrastructure. I'm sure I can't hear you. I completely hear you. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know that it's, you can try to turn that back around, but I think we are already seeing issues with traffic, and this isn't the right one, I was trying to look at the one that shows that it goes out in between those roundabouts, like he's saying, and that's how many people are gonna be living back there. If there's two bedroom apartments, that's over 100 units, you said, how many people could be living back there? How many cars are gonna be coming in and out of here? And that's not even including the two retail spots and you've got one lane each way, that doesn't seem like it's going to bode well in a little while. If you have all that start filling up, like she said, all those apartments are all filling up. I don't know that the traffic isn't going to get worse. I had I had hopes that the traffic is going to get better when all the roundabouts went in, the overpass went in. But if we start adding more and more into this dense area, I just feel that's too many cars for type of roads that are back here these are just like small roads that i don't know are are set up for that much traffic but i think that's about all i had thank you mr mr becker jennifer no mr logan no thank you very much thank you miss sharkey okay is there anyone else in opposition please come on up sir yeah okay

Raise your right hand, sir. Do you sort of tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

Ray Meyer, 4504 Dominic Drive. This isn't for or against. But people have been worried about losing the green space. My brother lived in Roswell, Georgia, in the county north of Atlanta, north of Fulton County. If you built a house there, you could only take out the minimum number of trees to build the house. We have places here where we just wipe out whole fields. You may not be the one to do this. Maybe it's the zoning commission. But if we wait until the end of this, it's too late. It seems to me it is within your power to make stipulations that the least amount of trees be taken out of a property to build what needs to be built. And that that be in the beginning of the project and not after the project is over. And that way we would have more and more green space. A lot of the green space that we have are two or three or four trees on people's lawns. But that's something. And that's how we do something about air quality. We let nature take care of it. And when we wipe out all of the trees for progress, we are not progressing. So it is possible to set up a situation where the most amount of trees could be preserved on each project that is developed. And I think it starts with you guys doing something about it. Thank you.

Thank you, Ray. Thank you, sir. Mr. Ray, 30 seconds, just real quick. Is that even possible for us to put a zoning resolution for that?

That's from vegetation?

Yeah. So to say if existing property and new builds, we're going to restrict the amount of trees they cut down. Is that even possible?

I mean, I have to research the legality of it, but I would challenge, I mean, one thing I would tell you is that if you try to save trees... They end up dying. You know, you end up compacting the roots and you get into the drip zone and all that. I mean, it's a pretty complex thing.

I got that, but I'm just saying, is it even possible to do that?

I mean, I'd have to, I mean, anything's possible. Is it legally defensible is a completely different question.

Yeah, and then it's going to be tough to police it, too. But I understand. Okay. I'm just curious. I didn't know. That's never come up as far as a question. I'm just curious. Okay. Is there anyone else in opposition to this case? Okay. And then, yes, ma'am. then you absolutely can. Sure. Sure. And I've already sworn you in, so you're okay.

So go ahead.

Ms.

I want to make this very clear. I'm not here saying build on every bit of our green space. My, my biggest position as a resident, I raised four children here, went through the school system three times is to basically cut off more subsidized housing. I know everybody needs housing, but look, I'm going to say it. I can't believe I'm going to say it. Not in my backyard, right? This is what I do for a living. And here we are. in my backyard of the apartment communities around here. I hear a lot about the traffic. So in my market study that I did this morning, I told you all about my wonderful research and didn't tell you what it was. Lowest occupied community around 96%. I have access to amazing software that gives me very accurate information. I pay lots of money for it. So I have to believe that it's accurate in my work. Your lowest occupancy is 96%. Um, and I looked at those at all the new bills. I took that one step further and looked at our older developments. Brandy Chase, Arbors of Anderson, both of which, by the way, used to be in my portfolio many years ago. Kennedy's Landing, because it's right here as well. What I was looking for was to see if occupancy had dropped there and these people were moving to the new developments, thus needing to backfill there. That's not the case. Their occupancies are strong as well. They are competing occupancies here as well as nearing rental rates depending on certain floor plans. They're competing with the likes of Oakley. There's a lot of development going on there too. Where things are really suffering is downtown. So what that tells me, again, industry professional, we have people leaving the city and they're coming to the suburbs. The occupancy is very soft there. It's very good here in the suburbs. It also tells me that we're absorbing this. We're not overdeveloping in that way. The absorption is there. These occupancies are great. And again, guys, I live here too, so I'm not trying to be a proponent for let's build on every bit of our green space. They are three-quarters of the way there. Seventy-seven low-income units can go in less than half a mile from my house. That's what I'm against. Like I said, I will take this. It is mixed use. We get a little bit of everything in there. I would take this as a win. Thank you for letting me add one.

Cool. Thank you, Ms. Angela. And then I was promised that the developer would like to come up and address any concerns at all or refute anything. The floor is yours, sir.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Cook. And then when you're done, I will have just a question or two for you.

But please go ahead, sir. Of course. Thanks again. So I heard some pretty valid concerns, I think, and three of them are really what stuck out to me. It's the concern of an out-of-town developer coming in and kind of willy-nilly doing whatever, the concern of traffic, and the concern of green areas. All three of those are obviously hot points. the the out-of-town developer in this case um the the grammis family specifically nick grammis born raised in union township right here this is a local guy this is a local person with other investments and in high high level of interest in this area doing well traffic um Look, the roundabout that's constructed, and you guys are looking there, it's very new. It was constructed with an eye toward this density right here. In addition to that, we have to go to Claremont County and we do a full traffic study. And in that traffic study, they're going to tell us, hey, you got to add a turn lane here or you got to do this thing there. All of those things are to address potential traffic concerns. Lastly, on the subject of traffic, you'll notice at the top end of the site, you see a right in, right out. Well, that's actually a full movement. So you've got left in, right in, left out, et cetera. You've got another entrance down at the bottom, down where you see Glyn Esty, Withamsville Road. That's a full access entrance and exit as well. And there's a third one on over toward the left of the page that is also full access. Those are all three strategically positioned to relieve traffic congestion in those pinch points. So that's the goal. Last one was mentioned is green areas, and we're very sensitive to that as well. What you'll see is a significant amount of green area on this area, specifically around the perimeter. So we've got buffer zones. We've got lots of trees that we'll be adding. Species and size has yet to be determined, but I think you can see there's a real effort here to keep this looking very green. Additionally, you'll notice that retail building is pushed towards Glen Esty-Withamsville with only two rows of parking between it and Glen Esty-Withamsville. That's a nod to a request by zoning to produce that boulevard kind of look. i think we've produced oh and sorry one last thing is we're doing that green boulevard going up the middle um that again that's just more green more density of of um of vegetation so i'm hopeful that we're addressing some of the concerns of the community with this i feel like it's it's well positioned i feel like the community is built for this um spot and that's that's my response thank you mr cook uh mr becker any questions mr loge

Just a couple. You kind of touched on one question I had about the roots of the outside developer being a hometown person, lived their whole life here and investing in the community. I know we heard some concepts earlier tonight or questions around Eastgate Mall. I believe the investment team has some of the outskirts around East Gate Mall as well, right? So it's the benefit. when we try to look at the overall community concerns too, like we definitely want to see our, our small town businesses thrive and do well and be able to invest and invest here. So that's one thing I see, um, Nick Graham is doing, uh, with this, this, this site. So, uh, appreciate you addressing the roots, uh, there. Um, the other thing, uh, it also really builds into just our, our overall feel for walkability. Um, just hearing about the green space, you know, we spent some time, uh, literally here on this township property, uh, doing some connective activity behind us, uh, with the green space and walking trails. Um, and this is gonna help really, um, energize and connect, uh, different pieces because, um, from that location to veterans park. Um, I mean, that is a, when we talk about the green space and the overall that's outside of this, but you know, that's obviously, those are things that we're looking at and, um, weighs on the overall, uh, request, uh, that's coming forward. So anyway, I don't have a further question for you right now because I appreciate it. Mr. Cook. You're good. Appreciate you very much. Thank you.

Okay. Any further comments? I don't.

come on yeah sure come on i already swore you in so you're okay rich so as you pointed out earlier i'm the president of the parks and recreation committee and a lot of times at our committee meetings we talk about not having parking space as evidenced by people pulling onto glen sd withamsville off of glen sd withamville right up against the soccer fields you go through there when they're having soccer games And from the park entrance all the way down to where the nursing home starts, there are cars parked side by side all the way down through there because there's not enough parking space. And for the opportunity to have larger events, I'd rather see this be a parking space than be any of this proposed stuff.

So just for what that's worth, you could fix all your parking concerns right there.

Thanks, Rich. Can the developer come back up?

Yeah.

Okay. How many spaces are there on that?

Or do, or do you have it in the plan from here to be perfectly honest? I didn't bring the documents with me, but it's code required.

Um, so there's a certain number of spaces that are required by code per square foot or per part.

And we'll keep that we typically keep that kind of to a minimum because most townships and communities don't want you to do more parking than is necessary. Right, right, right. There's 180 parking spaces. That's 1.5 spaces per residential unit and 125 or 135. I can't tell for the for the retail. How much of the retail side? 125, I believe. Okay. 135. Okay.

All right. Now that that's helpful. I want to hold that comment. Uh, I'm good. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Okay. See none. Uh, gentlemen, I'm going to entertain a motion to close public hearings and zoning case three dash 17 dash Zulu. So move second. Uh, no discussion. Mr. Campbell roll call.

Mr. Barker. Yes. Mr. Lowe. Yes. Mr. Dills, we're closing the public hearing at 9.23 p.m.

Okay, gentlemen, let's open up for discussion. Apartment mixed use. Mr. Becker, Vice Chairman, did you have anything, sir?

Yeah. So let's think about Angela's comments and also the developer. And, you know, appreciate this being a high-end apartment building. You know, what concerns me, of course, with any apartment building is they tend to be real nice, even high end in the early years. Sometimes that doesn't change. Sometimes it does. And, you know, there's example after example where it has. You know, I think I think it's Union Commons, if I'm not mistaken. Place barely open and we're getting complaints about problems there. I'm not sure that's been a management problem. Not sure how much of that's been resolved. But of course, you know, this building we're talking about, you know, it may be it may be great today, the day it's built, but the the owner could always sell. And then who knows what happens after that? So that concerns me. Of course, what I hear from the residents, complaints about apartments, the high density housing. Yeah, I've got all the same concerns myself. If this were two projects, one being residential and one being retail, I'd be a yes on the retail side. Being as this is one project to consider, um i'm uh i'm opposed and for those reasons okay okay thank you mr becker mr luke um

Corey, the 125 parking spaces for the commercial, Rich made a good comment about parking and where people park sometimes, especially when there's either overflow or, you know, because we have taken care of our green spaces like Veterans Park. said we have a new problem and that's we don't have enough parking sometimes so very true so that is very close and with the sidewalk walkability that we're frankly trying to promote 125 parking spaces i definitely foresee uh residents parking there and walking to the park does that create, present any unknown issues that we're not looking for right now and that the developer, that creating issues for the developer. I think the residential, or I think the left side there is probably going to be protected. I'm sure those would be like assigned parking. But the two retail shops, that should be good if people were walking to you and parking at your location.

I think you're going to have some of that regardless. I mean, I think there's probably measures we can explore to take care of the issue with the berm parking at the park as it stands now. We're actually looking at a couple of concepts to redeploy the pavement millings to start adding some parking like we did in Klepper at minimal cost. But if I'm a retailer and just based upon my experience and I want to have enough spaces that I can keep my core customers. This is relying on my Loveland station experience. Enough open spaces that I get people that are downtown activating the space. Enough customer spaces for quick end trips and customer spaces for longer trips. And I think there's a balance in that. And I know that Tony's worked in that arena where parking is at a premium before. While I can't say without any guarantee that there won't be some overflow parking at the park at the end of the day, if they're frequenting the retail and they're stopping in and shopping there before or after, that's probably a benefit to those businesses there. I don't think we want people monopolizing the parking to where they're detracting from

know the business operation of that but i think there's probably multiple solutions here okay um in that okay well looking at it uh hearing everyone's concerns um and looking at the the the current plan that has been approved at the 78 multifamily in there i definitely believe this is a much better utilization of the land and is a much better plan. And it brings more an amenity to the community with the retail that can be there. And you know, I know that that's, that's something that's likely more supportive of like the applicants bring forward to get coffee, ice cream, restaurants, you name it. So if we can land at Grader's there one day, that would be wonderful. Sure is the hope. I'm supportive of it. Over to you, Trustee Dills.

I will.

please if you've seen anything else that I've not heard it, there's a 13 recommendations. This was a one through zoning commission. There's a 13 recommendations that are attached to it. I've not heard anyone ask for anything different to modify from plan. So I don't have any, I'm not heard from Mr. Becker to modify anything from this. Um, so I, um, so over to you.

Um, should it go along with, uh, You know, Joanne and Ms. Sharkey, Emily. Oh, I love your last name, by the way. Ray and Rich. I 100% agree on preserving our green space. And so far, you know, I don't want to say we're a team, but we kind of team when Becker and I both. Sorry, Mr. Becker. Mr. Becker and I both ran the first time, you know, I'll say, you know, four going on five years ago. that more green space, less apartments, let's relax and pump the brakes on development. I'm not saying no to development, just pumping the brakes on it. And it is unfortunate that you do see all the construction going on, and everyone hates that, and I know. And we've held true to our word, this board in the past, I'm going to round up and say five years to two things have happened. Uh, Mr. Wright has been a phenomenal gatekeeper. You have no idea how many apartments have come to him and he has said, Hey, you can do what you want, but if you want to put all the money in all the infrastructure and all the architecture work and pay for all that, to come to the board for them, just to shoot you down. know that the temperature of this board is we're against multi-family um and uh and and i always said i would be i would consider a multi-family if it had a first floor retail and that's the only way i would consider it besides that mr wright don't even bring it to me i'm a no vote all the way and so for example this board voted down a 40 million dollar senior home in mount carmel Honestly, it should have went in. It would have been fantastic for Mount Carmel would have produced a lot and those folks would eat and, you know, Mount Carmel needs it. But the folks said no and they didn't want it. And so we voted it down and it didn't have any first floor retail. So we kept hold true to our word. $40 million project. Mount Carmel would've been huge and we voted it down. Now I will say this. So so the apartments, the traffic, I don't want this to be Hamilton County. I will never live in Hamilton County. I don't say never, but I will never live in Hamilton County. And so I like Claremont. I like. And so the problem is and I think Angela hit the nail on the head. We got the folks are pouring into the suburbs and We have to just try to pump the brakes on it. So I will say this. That's the negatives, and I agree. The positive is I do like that it's higher end, $1,700 to $2,200. That's nothing to sneeze at. That ain't cheap money. One of the two beds tells me it ain't going to be for kids. This is the target market for these apartments are not for families. So I don't really want to talk about the schools because they're their own business, but I don't see it affecting them. And it's not affordable housing. Trust me. If we had a vote on the Glen Esty site for the affordable housing, I think you might've seen a different vote. Unfortunately, this board did not vote on that, but it's not affordable housing. Um, I'm in love with the retail side of it. Uh, I want to see a restaurant go there, a coffee shop and ice cream. Uh, you know, I, I think it's needed there. Uh, and so the thing is that the zoning board, now usually we have a zoning board member that attends every one of our meetings, but he had to leave at seven o'clock tonight. And he's a fantastic guy. They unanimously supported this and what the zoning board is, is made up of residents of union township. And it first goes through them as kind of a gatekeeper. And then it comes to us. and they unanimously supported it. I will say this, because, you know, Mr. Becker, I think we're on the same page as far as multifamily, but I am a little confused because around two to three years ago, Mr. Wright came to us, and I don't want to say we wasted his time, but we did. you know, the, the, the vision was, um, you know, we, this board unanimously approved a Dora district. And if you don't know what a Dora is, it's like downtown Loveland, downtown Milford designated outdoor refreshment area. You can basically walk around and have a referral, you know, you know, a beer wine in your hand. We approve that all the way from the helicopter park veterans park, all the way up to jungle gyms, because. We wanted to make wine out of grapes, basically, meaning this is the hand that we were dealt with, and how do we handle Glanesty-Withamsville Road? And we wanted to, we gave this man over here the vision to turn this into a downtown Marymount, a downtown Loveland, a downtown Milford type of area, because it was already Apartment Road. That's what we inherited, whether we like it or not. so in my opinion i'm thinking okay there's no downtown area that exists in union township and so would i like to go from veterans park and walk my dog uh to um you know outdoor you know retail whether it be an outdoor patio area uh coffee shop yes and then also walk to jungle gyms and the whole area is a door district downtown um we approved that dora and that was the direction that we gave mr wright uh and so that's that's just a fact and so um I don't like apartments, but I love the residential retail. And unless an apartment gets up here with this mixed use, I'm a no. I can't forever see me changing that. However, I love the idea of Glen Esty-Withamsville being a downtown type of area. I do. And where I can walk my dog. you know, uh, have events like it, like Loveland Milford and Marymount, they do that. And I think this is a perfect area to do that because of the hand that we were dealt with, with already the existing multifamily there. Uh, so I, I am confused as why you allowed unanimously supported the Dora. And I was under the impression that was the vision that we gave this man two to three years ago to go out and find a developer that's willing to pay the money and invest to do mixed use along that corridor of the Dora District. But that's my thoughts. So, okay, I will go ahead and... Call the vote. Mr. Oh, no, no. Yes, yes, yes. Gentlemen, I'll attend a motion for the approval of Union Township Zoning Case 3-17-Z as in Zulu with all 13 modifications.

So moved.

Second. Any further discussion? Mr. Campbell, roll call.

Mr. Barker? No. Mr. Logue?

Yes.

Mr. Nils?

Yes.

Motion carries.

Okay. Thank you all for being here, if that was why you were here. Next on the agenda is old business. Seeing none, we'll move on to the new business of our consent agenda. Gentlemen, I'll entertain a motion for our consent agenda. I'll read these aloud. Approval of the minutes from May 12, 2026 regular meeting minutes. Approval of the May 12, 2026 zoning meeting minutes. Approval of May 26, 2026 work session meeting minutes. And the approval of payments as prepared by our Fiscal Officer Ron Campbell. And approval of our monthly financial report as prepared by our Fiscal Officer Ron Campbell. So moved. Second. Any discussion? Mr. Campbell, roll call.

Mr. Brecker? Yes. Mr. Lowe? Yes. Mr. Dills?

Yes. Okay. Yeah, let's do this. Okay, so the motion agenda, Item B, approval of purchase orders exceeding $15,000. Mr. Wright, you want to take that over?

Yes, sir. So I am going to consolidate the first 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 purchase orders. All of these are TQL reimbursements. under the Economic Development Agreement to Total Quality Logistics, LLC. The first is for the April 26th reimbursement of $32,030.90. The second is for – and we get these in tranches from them. That's why you're seeing them. So you're going to – the last one – the first one is the last one we got, and then we're going to go – So I apologize. So the next one is September 2025 reimbursement $29,638.63. October 2025 reimbursement $58,853.27. The November 2025 reimbursement $35,389.99. The December 2025 reimbursement $30,509.30. The January 2026 reimbursement $30,722.22. The February reimbursement $79,222.25. The March 2026 reimbursement $31,737. and 78 cents and the may 2026 reimbursement uh in the amount of 59 883 34 just for the board's edification these come directly out of jed funds so if you look at our cash position that's gonna that's a significant hit on fund 34 under that economic development agreement and we talked about that in the last two meetings Next one is locality media for our first two size up and hydrant module software program for the fire department and the amount of $25,500. The next item is for the fire department, Wex bank fuel for apparatus and vehicles, $50,000. Next item is boundary medical EMS supplies. The amount of $40,000 next item is for the fire department, Duke energy gas and electric accounts and the amount of $50,000. And the final one is for the service department, cemetery operations. This is a new open book. This is what we use in our scattering garden to not to memorialize the folks who choose to be interred at the scattering garden. And that is the amount of $17,250. And that is Georgetown marble and granite. Remember, we charge for those spots.

Good job, Mr. Wright. Any questions for Mr. Wright? No. No. OK. The gentleman will entertain a motion for the approval of purchase orders exceeding $15,000 as explained by Mr. Wright.

So moved.

Second. All right. Any discussion? Mr. Campbell, roll call.

Mr. Becker? Yes. Mr. Low? Yes. Mr. Dills? Yes.

Motion carries. All right. Mr. Wright, just for correction, both the next two items are just housekeeping items, correct? Correct. That is correct. All right. Gentlemen, I'll attend a motion to transfer a property for economic development purposes, authorized transfer of 952 Clough Pike. Pin number is 413102A as an alpha 205. Next one is 0 Clough Pike. Pin number is 413102A as an alpha 007. And the last one is pin number 413102A as in alpha 206. So moved. Second. Any further discussion? Mr. Campbell, roll call.

Mr. Bracker? Yes.

yes yes all right and uh next item same thing housekeeping item uh gentleman a motion to transfer property for economic development purposes uh 445 i colts road pin number four one four one zero five point zero zero nine four four four seven i colts road pin number four one four one zero five point zero zero eight and that is it second any discussion mr camber roll call

Mr. Barker? Yes. Mr. Lowe? Yes. Mr. Dills? Yes.

All right. We are on to your folks' resolution. All right. Mr. Wright, brief explanation, sir. Go ahead. Resolution 2026-39.

Yes. This is a resolution regulating and prohibiting. prohibiting and otherwise regulating the operation of snowmobiles, off-highway motorcycles, and all-purpose vehicles, special-purpose vehicles as defined in ORC. Basically, the rules are you can't operate these things in a platted subdivision. You can't operate them on two acres. You've got to meet some special conditions. For the folks that have the side-by-sides that use them to haul gravel and other things around their yard, you can use them to do that as part of a maintenance project or something like that. But in these folks' specific instance, I would find anyone hard-pressed to be able to explain to a police officer that you are using a motorbike on a planted subdivision to conduct property maintenance. And so this is what this does. This is a home rule resolution. We'll have to advertise this. for some time to implement it, just like the snow emergency resolution.

Mr. Assuming it passes, when will it take effect?

Approximately, I believe, 30 days after we posted.

I'll check with the law director. Tell me very quickly, penalty one, penalty two, penalty three, what happens when you keep... First, it's all in a 12-month period.

First offense, $100. Second offense is $500. Third offense is $1,000 in additional offenses or $1,000. These are cited to municipal court. Is that correct? I was going to ask you that. I believe so. Civil fines. Civil fines. We cite to municipal. I wanted to make sure we can enforce that. Yes. Okay. Yes.

All right. $100,000, $500,000, $1,000, $1,000, $1,000. Keep repeating. You okay? All right. If they don't pay, we'll leave the house. Yep. You got it. All right. Gentlemen, any questions for Mr. Wright? Yeah. Please, go ahead.

Can we take a giant spike and hammer this resolution onto the front door of the people who are creating all these problems?

I'm sure they'll print it off before we can.

I guess it was a rhetorical question.

All right, gentlemen, I'll entertain a motion for the approval of Resolution 2026-39. So moved. Second. Any further discussion? It's a no-brainer. Mr. Campbell, roll call.

Mr. Becker? Yes. Mr. Logan? Yes. Mr. Dills? Yes. Motion carries.

All good. Okay. Jed, you're welcome. The Jed, Milford Jed, EZ1 Housekeeping? Yes.

Uh, yes, sir. We've all held our hearings. This is the next step.

Uh, gentlemen, aren't you in a motion for the approval of resolution two zero two six dash four zero union township and city Milford Jed. Number one, Ivy point.

So move second.

Any discussion? Mr. Campbell roll call.

Yes. Mr. Lowe? Yes. Mr. Dittles?

Yes. Motion carries. All right. And then, gentlemen, you're going to see me going fast because we've got a 10 o'clock cutoff for our attorney. All right. Let's see. This is the grant application. Easy. All right. Resolution 2026-41. The gentleman will attend a motion to approval of that. The Ohio Department of Natural Resources grant.

So moved.

Second. Mr. Campbell, roll call.

Mr. Becker? Yes. Mr. Loeb? Yes. Mr. Dills?

Yes. All right. Resolution 2026-42. Mr. Wright, you want to go over this one real quick? Yes, sir. Oh, yeah. Okay.

This is important. Yes. This is a resolution of necessity. This is a resolution of necessity, the first step of two, that the board must take to levy an additional tax in excess of the $10 million levitation. We talked about it at the May 12th meeting. We talked about it at the May 26th meeting. We looked at various millage options. At the end of the day, there is a very small difference between a 1.75 mill levy and a 1.99 mill levy. A 1.99 mill levy will generate a little over $3.1 million a year. And the difference is about a $2 a month delta to do that. And we believe that this, as I indicated to you, We're going to make this last. I mean, Mr. Campbell and I have talked. We feel like we can get five years on this. Is that correct? Mr. Campbell? Yes. And this will, and for a $250,000 house, you're looking at around $175 a year, a $300,000 house, $209 a year, and a $350,000 house, $244 a year. So around $14 a month, $17 a month, or $20 a month, plus or minus. And we'll get all that, but this will actually call out and have the auditor certify this. If this doesn't put the levy on the ballot, you still have to have a resolution to proceed.

So, okay. Any questions for Mr. Wray? I see none. Okay, gentlemen, I'll entertain a motion for the approval, motion to approve resolution 2026-42. So moved. Second. Any discussion? Mr. Campbell, roll call.

Mr. Becker? No. Mr. Logan?

Yes, I'll vote to hear from the residents.

Yes. Mills. Yes, sorry, Mr. Campbell. Harris. All right, and then, okay, new sub-abatement. All right, let me, I'm gonna read off the, all right, here we go. Gentleman, I obtain a motion for the approval of resolution 2026-43, the nuisance abasement resolution, and that's for 447 Glen Rose Lane. It is 414145.065 point. Next one is 1200 Pond Drive, Batavia, Ohio, 45103. 414802.041. 4160 Branamore Drive, that is 413214, D as in Delta, 387. 4189 Edinburgh Drive, 413214, E as in Erie, 378. 4692 Blue Jacket Road, 414139.032. 4813 Powderhorn Drive, 414821.017. 3909 Michael Drive, 414246, B as in Bravo, 118.

Mr. Chairman, I think you, number two, I think you said pond drive. That's pood drive.

Otherwise, so moved. 1,200 pood drive. Apologies. Good catch. You're right. I did. Any second, Mr. Logue? Second. All right. Mr. Campbell, roll call.

Mr. Becker? Yes. Mr. Logue? Yes. Mr. Bills?

Yes. All right. Mr. Becker, comments from the board, sir?

All right. Just regarding the tax levy proposal, it's an issue I'm struggling with, and I am apparently going to continue to struggle with this for a while. Beyond that, the hour is late. Let's move on.

Mr. Logue? No, Mr. Becker, thanks for sharing the struggle with that, because it does leave me as a confusion sometimes with... the voting structure, um, it's good for us to be able to get rid of some land and help offset those, those costs. So, but appreciate that. I'm good for this time.

Thank you. Um, yeah, I, I let, let's let the voters decide and uh, nobody wants to see a tax levy, but um, you know, that's just how the townships funded. All right. Upcoming events. All right. Let's make this quick. Union Township Zoning Commission will meet Wednesday, June 24th, 7 p.m. Union Township Board of Zoning Appeals is scheduled for Thursday, July 2nd, 7 p.m. It has been canceled due to no applications. The Board of Trustees, our next regular meeting is the second Tuesday of the month, July 14th, right here at 6 p.m. Farmer's Market Summer Concierge kicks off Friday, June 5th. And the Farmers Market is held Fridays at 4 p.m. to 7 p.m. at the Civic Center right outside. And then June 5th, that's June 5th through September 11th, excluding June 19th, July 3rd, our holidays. Okay, summer concerts will be held right behind us at the Amphitheater Friday, June 12th, July 17th, July 24th, and July 31st, all at 7 p.m. Let's see here, and... Mad Cat Puppets are back again this summer. They will be here June 27th at 10 a.m. And then next CPR training will be with our fire department Saturday, July 25th from 9 to 1 p.m. And, okay, gentlemen, I'll take a motion to enter executive session to, what is this? uh all right according to our revised code 121.22 g is engulfed as follows to confer with an attorney for the public body concerning disputes involving the public body that that are subject of pending or imminent court action pursuant to uh higher vice code section one two one point two two golf three Item two is preparing for conducting or reviewing negotiations or bargaining sessions with public employees concerning their compensation or the terms, conditions of their employment pursuant to Higher Advice Code 121.22, which he has engulfed for. And the last item is number three, the longest one, to consider confidential information related to the marketing plan, specific business strategy, production techniques, trade secrets, or personal financial statements of applicant for economic development assistance to negotiate with other political subdivisions with respect respecting requests for economic development assistance provided that both of the following conditions apply. The information is directly related to a request for economic development assistance that is to be provided or administered under any provision of Chapter 715, 725, 1724 or 1728 or sections 701.07375.673735.70 5709.40 5709.43 5709.61 2 5709.69 5709.73 2 5709.75 or 5709.77 2 5709.81 man of the Ohio Revised Code or that involves public infrastructure improvements or the extension of utility services that are directly related to an economic development project and be a unanimous quorum of the public body determines by a roll call vote that the executive session is necessary to protect the interest of the applicant or the possible investment expenditure of public funds to be made in connection with the economic development project pursuant to Ohio Revised Code 121.22 G as in golf eight.

So moved.

Second. Roll call.

Mr. Barker? Yes. Mr. Lowe? Yes. Mr. Dills? Yes. We're into executive session at 9.51 p.m. Thank you all for sticking...

Okay, gentlemen, I intend a motion to exit executive session with no action taken. So moved. Second. Mr. Campbell, roll call.

Mr. Becker? Yes. Mr. Logue?

Yes. Mr. Dills? Yes.

We're out of executive session with no action taken at 11.09 p.m. Gentlemen, I intend a motion to adjourn.

So moved. Second. Mr. Campbell, roll call.

Mr. Becker? Yes. Mr. Logue? Yes. Mr. Dills? Yes. We're adjourned at 11.09 p.m. Thank you, gentlemen.