Clark County Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

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Good evening, everybody. We will call our Planning Commission meeting to order. And the first order of business will be, may I have you please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. I'm sorry, I lost you. Thank you. Next order of business will be public comments.

Yes, ma'am. Roll call. Roll call.

Roll call. I apologize. I'm just messing this thing left and right. Thank you.

Chair Frazier.

I'm online. Commissioner Meek, I hear you're doing just fine.

Thank you. Vice Chairman Mujica. Present. Commissioner Stone. Here. Commissioner Kirk. Here. Commissioner Kolarski. Here. Commissioner Brady?

Here.

Commissioner Reitman?

Present.

Madam Chair, we have a quorum.

Thank you. Next order of business will be public comments. If anybody has any public comments, can you please come to the mic? Seeing no one, we will move to the agenda.

thank you madam vice chair the next item on the agenda is approval of the agenda after any additions holds or deletions at this time staff requests the following hold the following to the august 4th 2026 planning commission meeting prayer the applicants representative item number five uc 26-0303 Hold the following to the August 18th, 2026 Planning Commission meeting per the applicant's representative. Item number 17, PA 2670026. Item 18, ZC 260318. Item 19, VS 260319. Item number 20, WS 260321. Item number 21, PUD 260326. and item number 22, TM26-500,085. For the public's information, the corresponding Board of County Commissioners meeting date for items 17 through 22 will change from the August 19th, 2026 meeting to the September 16th, 2026 Board of County Commissioners meeting. For the applicant's information, additional re-notification fees may be required if necessary in accordance with Title 30 for items held or deleted or if there are any modifications to the original application. The above public hearing item is going to be opened as a public hearing and immediately recessed until the date previously stated. These are for items five and 17 through 22. If there are no requests by the Planning Commission or any members of the public, the agenda stands ready for your approval.

Madam Chair, I have a question. Jason, do we have number 15 being held? Has that been requested by the applicant, I think? You mentioned that earlier.

I think there's an applicant here. It's either 15 or 16. I think he's coming up.

Do we have an applicant? Are you asking it to be held? Yes, please. Fine. Then we'll add that to the agenda to hold number 16. Do we have a date?

Commissioner Kirk, does the applicant request a two-week hold, sir?

Two-week? Two weeks, okay. Yep, two weeks is fine.

For the audience's information, the two-week hold would be until the August 4th, 2026 Planning Commission meeting for item 16, WS260331, which is off the routine portion agenda of tonight's meeting.

Thanks, Senator. Can I just ask the applicant that came up if we just get them to identify themselves for the record?

Yes, please.

Joshua Aylor with Arc One Associates, address 1427 North 3rd Street, Phoenix, Arizona.

Thank you. With that, we are ready for a motion for the agenda.

Chair, I'll motion to approve the agenda after considering the request to add, hold, or delete holding items number five, item number 16, item number 17, number 18, number 19, number 20, number 21, and number 22.

Thank you. Motion on the floor. Please vote.

Commissioner Frazier, yes.

The next item on the agenda is approval of the minutes. At this time, the Planning Commission briefing and regular meeting minutes from June 16th, 2026 are ready for approval.

Chair, I'd like to make a motion to approve the minutes.

Commissioner Frazier, yes.

That motion carries. Next item.

For the audience's information, items on tonight's agenda are final action unless appealed to the Board of County Commissioners or otherwise announced. All appeals must be filed in writing to the Comprehensive Planning Department by 5 o'clock p.m. on Wednesday, July 29th, 2026. And any appeals from tonight's meeting will be heard by the Board of County Commissioners on Wednesday, August 19th, 2026 at nine o'clock a.m. in these chambers. Per Title 30, an aggrieved person may appeal an item. An aggrieved person includes the applicant, someone who attended this meeting in person or through an authorized representative, or someone who has submitted comments in writing which may include a postcard or a letter. Members in the audience must complete the meeting sign-in sheet found near the dais to confirm their attendance at this meeting. Mailed notices of appealed applications will be sent to the property owners within the same notification radius as the original application and to those listed on the meeting sign-in sheet. Additionally, any person may call the Comprehensive Planning Department at 702-455-4314 or go to the county's meeting agenda webpage and review the meeting, notice a final action to find out if any items have been appealed. Next are the routine action items which consist of items number four through 11 except those items that were previously deleted. These items may be considered together in one motion and are subject to the conditions listed with each agenda item. If there are no objections, the public hearing is now open and the routine action portion of the agenda stands ready for approval.

Okay, I'd like everybody's attention, please. If you could please look at the agenda that you're holding and identify your item number that you are here to oppose. If you would like the item to be approved, then we're good. But if you are going to oppose, keep in mind that item number five was held. So if you were here for number five, there is nothing more to do on that item. So items four through 12 are going to be approved. If you oppose any of those items, can you please? I'm sorry, four through 11. Please come to the podium and state your name and address. Seeing none, we are ready for a motion.

Chair, I'd like to motion to approve routine action items four and routine action items six through 11, noting that number five has been held.

There's a motion on the floor. Please vote.

Commissioner Frazier, yes.

That motion carries. Next item.

This is final action unless appealed. The next item on the agenda is item number 12, SDR 260312, sign design reviews for the following. One, increase the area of project entrance signs, and two, increase the height of project entrance signs in conjunction with an existing multifamily residential development on 13.68 acres in an RM32 residential multifamily zone generally located south of Warm Springs Road and east of Cimarron Road within Spring Valley.

Good evening, name and address, please, and tell us about your item.

Good evening, Liz Olson, 1980 Festival Plaza Drive, here on behalf of the applicant and property owner, Nevada West. This site is located here on the corner of Warm Springs and Cimarron. It is an approved multifamily development that's under construction. As you know, Warm Springs is 100 foot right of way. We are across Caddy Corner from the hospital, and we have existing commercial and office surrounding us. The project before you is for our signage for the multifamily development. Specifically, we are looking at the two signs here at the driveway entrance, as well as the sign here at the intersection. So if you look at this exhibit here, these are the two signs that we are proposing at the entrance of the project. and this would be the sign that we are proposing at the intersection. When you look at the code, black and white, it does look like it's a pretty high increase, but when you do look at it as an overall project and the scale of the apartment complex, The signage is really pretty minimal. It looks beautiful. Nevada West always does a wonderful job at their product. We think this will be a perfect addition for this new development, and I am happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you.

Thank you. Do we have anybody that would like to talk about this item in the audience? Seeing no one, commissioners, any questions?

Commissioner Frazier, no questions. I can support the application.

I apologize. We're closing the public comment. Any questions?

I think it looks very nice. Motion to approve SDR260312LVWS.

There's a motion on the floor. Please cast your vote.

Commissioner Frazier, yes.

That motion carries. Thank you. Good luck. Thank you.

This is final action unless appealed. Next is item number 13, UC 260322, use permit for small livestock chickens with waivers of development standards for the following, one, reduce setbacks, and two, reduce building separation for accessory structures in conjunction with an existing single family residence on 0.17 acres and an RS 5.2 residential single family 5.2 zone, generally located north of Cedar Avenue and east of Wind River Road, within Sunrise Manor.

Do we have an applicant? Please state your name, address, and tell us about your item.

My name is Victor Martinez. The address is 620 Wind River Drive, Las Vegas, Nevada, 89110. So we're here to ask permission to pretty much keep on taking care of our 12 hens that we have in our urban area. We assure you that approving our proposal request will not negatively impact the adjacent properties and surrounding neighbors. I do have a petition. We have a petition that we had our neighbors sign that pretty much none of them oppose us having our chickens, our direct neighbor to the property that is north of us. They actually love feeding our chickens. Their kids actually throw food over the wall to our chickens. So if anybody would have a direct impact it would be them and they're the ones who have absolutely no problem with us having our chickens uh... whenever we initially got our chicken coop i did not know that i was in violation of any city code so I'm pretty much asking to allow us to continue to care for the chickens because I have a lot of time and money invested already into this project. And it also benefits my daughter here. She learns agriculture from this project. We also homeschool, so it gives her responsibility, makes her wake up at an appropriate time, take care of the animals. They're not just livestock to us, but they are our pets. Our kids do love those chickens. and we're also asking for waivers for setbacks because the shed A and shed B were pre-existing to the property and they are two feet from the wall and two feet from each other. And the patio cover two, we're asking for setbacks as well because it is two feet from the wall They are all aluminum structures, so they pose no immediate danger to fire, fire spreading or causing a fire. They have no utilities to them.

Thank you, does that conclude your presentation?

Yes, ma'am.

Okay, we are now going to open public comments for this particular item. If you have something that you would like to talk about regarding this item, please come to the front and line up. Seeing no one, we will close public comments, and I will hand it to our commissioners if they have any questions. Commissioner Stone.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Commissioner Klarski will probably get into this a little deeper, but just as a general overview, flash some pictures of these things on the screen. Do you have any pictures?

Oh, the chicken coop and chickens?

Well, shed A, shed B, the chicken coop and the patio cover. Yes, I do. If we could zoom in on those, that would be appreciated up in the booth. So let's look at the chicken coop.

So this is the chicken coop.

This is the outside run. This is inside the coop. They are contained to the run. They are not free roaming throughout the backyard. So this is the chicken coop run area. This is the surrounding area of the chicken coop. And this is our sheds that we have. The two pre-existing aluminum sheds. That's the separation from the wall. And this is the patio cover too, that we are asking for. It's kind of a far distance of a picture, but that's the best that I could do.

Okay. Can you comment on the number of chickens Number of hens, number of roosters, are they pets or are they for eggs or do you eat them?

And what's the smell like? Originally we had 15. The rooster that we did have, whenever we got them from Tractor Supply, they were supposed to be all sex, two hens, but one of them popped out to be a rooster. During our first season of the molting, I separated the rooster from the chickens to allow them to regrow their feathers, and he initially passed away. The rooster is no longer on the property and we have had a couple of casualties as well from the heat with the hens. I do have a mister system throughout the coop area, but some of them don't like to leave the coop. They want to sit on the eggs. So unfortunately we had had two of them pass away. We are down to 12 hens total on the property.

So it's more for eggs, not for eating the chickens.

no sir we they're they're not meat birds they are egg layers and they are more i mean they're an emotional support animal as well when one of them passed away it was one of my younger daughters and she was devastated for a week they do supply us eggs that we do initially i do give out to my neighbors as well i don't just keep all of the eggs because they do produce a decent amount all right and what do you use shed a and shed b for Right now we're just storing our personal effects in it so we don't have to get a storage because the storage that was like $150 a month and they kept going up almost $20 a month on us. By the time it was six months in, it was almost $250 for a little 10 by 15. So I just couldn't afford to continue to use that storage anymore. So that is, they are packed with our, one is my lawn and garden supplies, and the other one are more mementos from our childhood.

All right, yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. I yield back to you.

Commissioner Roitman.

This is for staff, excuse me, this is for staff. Is there a recommended amount of chickens, I mean, I'm pretty much, I'm okay with what's going on here. I would think maybe we would wanna cap the amount of chickens that were there. I don't know what that number is exactly. Maybe also a review in case the neighbors turn out that they don't love this after some amount of time, but is, staff, is there any number that we might base this on?

Commissioner Reutemann, we do not have a preferred number that we could base a potential condition that the Planning Commission may impose. However, Title 30 allots a maximum permissible number of 10 small livestock or 10 chickens that would be permissible on the subject property not to exceed a maximum of five roosters per breed. So right now the gentleman indicated he has 12 hens. So you can cap it at 12 if that's the desire of the commission.

And the number 10 would include both hens and roosters with a maximum of five roosters specifically, is that right?

That's correct. So he would be exceeding the allotted number of small livestock by two.

If it were me, in order to not force your daughter to lose any more of her hens, I might consider capping it at ten without requiring that they get rid of two, but if you lose another two, that we don't bring it back up to twelve.

Can I make a comment? Sure. I don't plan on getting any more livestock or any more animals to this property. And to address your concerns about smell, they do make a powder that we do put throughout the coop and throughout the chicken run that absorbs some of the moisture and it gives it whatever smell we want right now it is currently a pumpkin spice smell and they make pellets as well that absorb a lot of the moisture and smell so it is not imposing on any of our neighbors yeah you know sometimes people have hobbies and they start off taking myself included man i had a garden that garden's gone because of the heat and everything else and i lost a little interest so

I would say that if things start deteriorating there, then we might want a mechanism that a neighbor could file a complaint and say, hey, there's a problem. Go ahead.

Commissioner Reutemann, I apologize for clarification purposes. This is within the urban area, so he's not allowed any... chickens at all, therefore that's what necessitated the use permit. So he's in the urban area.

But where does the 10 number, the 10 number would be in a rural area?

Yes, in the non-urban area, that's correct.

Understood, and thank you for the clarification. I might still, if we were gonna allow this to happen, peg our number at what they would allow in a rural area. But that's just my thought, or maybe less. Maybe it's less because of its, thank you.

Can I make one more comment, please? So I've been dealing with this since 2024, and since then it has, the coop has deteriorated since I have had to move it a couple of times to get it within compliance of setbacks. So it has kind of fallen apart a little bit, but I did not want to invest any more time or money into the coop if I didn't know if I was going to be able to keep them or not. But if I do get approved, I do plan on revamping the area and making it more appealing to the eye. It's not gonna have the tarp as a roof. It's not gonna have, it's gonna look presentable.

Commissioner Kolarski, this is in your area.

Yep.

Hi.

Hello. Madam Chair, could I just speak before Commissioner Kolarski goes?

I apologize, Commissioner Frazier. Please go on.

That's okay. So I can support the application. I agree with Commissioner Roikman that we should do a cap. I'm okay with the 10, or if we want to go down further, like six or eight, I would be okay with that as well. And again, I can support the application and with a review, something like two years. Thank you.

Thank you.

commissioner brady so this is city more so it's or non-rural so this the actual number is zero um so i think what in my opinion and i i really like what you were going with is let's phase it down so get it phased down so just no replenishing until I would say even a lower number, maybe it's five or zero, but just in the replacing factor, but that's just my opinion. I've always had chickens, I loved them, and so it was really neat. Thank you.

Hi.

Hello, ma'am.

I got a long history with chickens. My daughter raised them in another state, so the rules are different. We've had a lot of chickens in District E. I don't normally approve in the RS5. I don't normally do it. But what I'm looking at, after you answer me a couple of questions, is you said the sheds have been there Previously, I understand you're a renter. Yes, ma'am. Okay. And you've been in your property. I listened to the tape of the town board meeting. Okay.

I've been there for five years. Yes, ma'am. As soon as Ms. Ponce had bought the property, she spent a few months renovating it. And as soon as it was able for me to move in, I immediately moved into the property.

Okay. So you've been there for five years. Yes, ma'am. Okay. You've also, as I heard, had the chickens for, excuse me, two years. Approximately.

A little more than two years. This started in early 2024, whenever we got the chickens. So by June of 2024 is when I started actually developing and building the chicken coop. And then I was reported not for this incident, but because I had a garden in my front yard and I had construction material.

You had outside storage.

Yes. So... And it just spiraled into this. I didn't want to lie to Ms. Perez, the code enforcement officer, when she asked me if I had a chicken coop. I was honest with her and let her know, yes, ma'am, it is a chicken coop, only because I thought I was in compliance because of everything that I read online. Unfortunately, I didn't know that it was all wrong. Unfortunately.

Okay. You brought the letters in. You did what town boards. How big is your chicken coop? Because they have to be a certain size in order for X number of birds.

Yes. So it is a 10 by 10, 100 square feet roughly.

Okay. And how long is your run?

That is the 10 by 10. So the chicken coop is an actual 10 by 4 by 4. And then the chicken run is a 10 by 10 by 10.

10 by 10 by 10. And the

And the actual coop is four by four, you said? It's four feet tall by four feet wide by 10 feet long. So it goes to the full length of the coop. And it's tall enough for me to bend over and get in there in a good enough depth to allow them to have plenty of space.

Okay. My thoughts on this, okay, is... What I would like to do, and you don't have a rooster.

No, ma'am, no more. Okay. Don't plan on getting another one.

I know that birds live from five to ten years, depending on the breed. I also know that after two years, their egg production starts to decrease. Yes. Okay, I know all of that. So my plan is... to go ahead and approve this with a couple of conditions. And let me know if you're okay with it before I make my motion. There will be no roosters. You can keep your 12, however, As they die off, they will not be replaced until you are down to, and I hate to say zero because you should never have less than three. Understandable. Okay. They're social. If you have two, one dies, the other one is going to die very quickly. But I want you just to gradually go down because you're not allowed to have that. I guess my question is to Rob, is with that condition of no replacement... when we approve something like this use permit, it goes with the land and it stays with the land. Does that mean that if he moves and the next people come in, they have the ability to have chickens down there?

Yeah, generally zoning approvals run with the land, but with the review, I think you can review it and you can see where they're at and then you can adjust the approval and the conditions of approval.

Okay, because I would like to say that the chickens will not be replaced until we get down to zero and then there will be no more.

Right, well, that would, the condition would run with the approval and run with the land, yes.

Okay, so.

I mean, you would enforce it, I think, with a review because you're going to come back with a review so you can see how many chickens he has in a year or two from now and then you can just kind of keep monitoring it until he has no more.

Okay, so then my, make sure that I'm saying this right then if you would. My motion would be to approve UC 26-0322 with the following conditions. No roosters and no replacements of chickens' hands. Okay. When they die off, they die off.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay.

I don't plan on renting the property for another three years anyway. I do plan on getting my own.

Okay. And then we'll do a review in three years then. And I don't know what you're going to do with the chickens in three years. You're going to have to find a place that has 10,000 square feet. because I think you're allowed at that one, depending on where it's at. So if you want to move your chickens.

Okay, there's a motion on the floor, please cast your vote.

Commissioner Frazier, yes.

That motion passes. And please remember the conditions that were placed. Thank you.

Thank you all very much. We appreciate your time.

This is final action, unless appealed. Next is item number 14, WS260307, Ways or Development Standards to Reduce Setback for Proposed Accessory Building Detached Garage in Conjunction with an Existing Single Family Residence on 0.81 Acres in an RS-20 Residential Single Family 20 Zone, generally located south of Helena Avenue and west of Pioneer Way within Lone Mountain.

Good evening. Please state your name and address for the record.

Good evening, commissioners. Daryl Lane, 7425 Helene Avenue. Here to ask permission for a waiver to finally try to build a detached garage to store all my old cars and RV so the weather doesn't keep deteriorating everything here. As you can see right here, turn it the right way for you. The garage doors would be right here. And so the setback, if I put the garage closer back, and I have another picture I'll show you. I'll move that one over. That one's a little more clear for you in real time. If I move the garage back, I have an existing power line from NV Energy that comes there, and it won't give me the height. And if I try to put that underground, I got a quote, and it's upwards of $20,000. My wife and I, we've been trying to save to do this for six years, and I finally – I should have done it then because it would have been half the price, but – you know, four kids and I got two kids racing out at the speedway, it's a lot. But if I were to try to move it back, the garage door access is right here. So if I pulled in my yard, I'd be able to pull my RV in. If I move it back, then the garage doors are blocked. I got another kind of picture for you guys, if you can see that. Basically, this house was built, I think, in the 70s, so I kind of got... Didn't have my pick on where they put the house, and it kind of didn't give me room on either side, or the house was kind of put right in the middle of the property, so it... I've laid this out multiple times trying to get it to work, and everything is within county code as far as the height, the size. It's going to match the existing house. Everything is going to be painted, stuccoed to match. So everything else is within code. Just... trying to get it to where it would fit on the property and this is just showing from the street view there's 20 feet of the easement so it's not necessarily you know right up close to block anything from the road or the site um and the house is just on this side that are city now they're i think they're about 15 feet they're they're on the corner also um and then i just took another photo just to kind of show that when you're up here at the stop sign, there's actually no obstruction for traffic safety or anything. And then this is just kind of like a generic view of kind of what it would look like. Just tried to do my best on making it like that. And I did get all my neighbors that are on my whole entire street and the two neighbors that are right out in front of me, They all signed, and nobody on my whole entire street had a problem with it. Same with, I believe, at the town hall. I had a lot of support, and I've been in that neighborhood 20 years and just get along with all my neighbors, so I wouldn't put anything bad there that they didn't like and open up to any questions.

Does that conclude your presentation?

Yes, ma'am.

We are now going to open public comments for this item. If anybody has anything to discuss regarding this item, can you please come to the front? Seeing no one, we will close public comments and I will ask my commissioners if they have any questions. Commissioner Roitman.

I think it looks good. I'm glad your neighbors approve of it. That's pretty important to us up here. If your neighbors hated it, I think I'd be thinking about it differently. But I'm interested to hear what the rest of the commissioners have to say. But the approvals from the town board and the approvals from your neighbors, I think that speaks to me. Thank you.

Commissioner Brady, this is your item.

All right. So I think you spoke a little bit because I'm usually a pretty stickler on this type of stuff. But I think that what you're doing here, I think it looks good. I do see a couple things where it kind of makes you do it the way that you're doing it. So for me, I am going to make a motion to approve. Where is my number? It is WS260307, as the plans are presented.

There's a motion on the floor. Please cast your vote. Commissioner Frazier?

Commissioner Frazier, yes.

That motion passes. Good luck. Thank you.

Thank you. Have a good night. This is final action, unless appealed. Next is item 15, WS260323, waiver development standards for the following. One, increase fence height, and two, allow non-decorative wall in conjunction with an existing single-family residence on 0.46 acres in an RS-20 residential single-family 20 zone, generally located north of Holloman Avenue and east of Yerham Street within Paradise.

Good evening, can you please give us your name and address for the record and tell us about your item?

How you doing? My name is Damian Rodrick, I'm the owner of the property 4354 Hellermann Avenue. I brought packets if everybody would, some of the stuff is colored too, so that might help. I just went to another major meeting, I think last week, They approved it, or yeah, they approved it, so. Good evening, commissioners. My name is Damian Rodrick. I'm requesting approval for the existing fence at 4354 Hellermann Avenue. The fence was constructed to address privacy and security concerns for my family. and clients during my career in the entertainment industry. Since becoming aware of the need for approval, I have worked with the Clark County staff, various departments, and surrounding neighbors. The adjacent property owners support the request as shown in the letters included in your packets. The fence has not negatively impacted the neighborhood and comprehensive planning recommended approval. I respectfully request that the commission approve this application and thank you very much.

Does that complete your presentation?

I've been working on this since I bought the house. I talked to my neighbors when I put the gate up They all loved it. The property value went up. I deal with so many different entertainers and clients. I'm involved with the NBA Summer League that just left. I'm heavily involved with UNLV. My brother played for UNLV. Vegas has been like my second home forever. And when I put the gate up, it was mainly for my clients. They don't always like to be in the hotel. So they come to my house. They know they're secure. And then when my fiance is there with my kids, I'm back and forth to L.A. And we have a park that's on the corner, you know, the homeless. And my neighbors told me it was some robberies when I first got over there. I was a business owner in the Boulevard Mall. I had a store. I was followed home one time. And so I put the gate up and just protect myself and protect my family and protect my clients.

Okay, thank you. That's it?

Yes.

Okay. We're now going to open this for public comments. If anyone has a discussion on this item, can you please come to the front? I see no one. We will close public comments and I will ask my commissioners if they have any questions. Commissioner Kowalski.

Thank you, Madam Chair. What are the materials that you're using for the fence?

Say it one more time.

What are the materials? What is that red material?

That's wood.

Wood?

Yes, wood. Wood and then iron support and then the concrete blocks.

You have the concrete pilasters, okay. Yes. And it's... I'm trying to... Because I didn't really.

Yeah, all electrical. I've taken care of all electrical permits. Those have been paid. I had four different officers through this whole process. And every time I got through the process, I would go down to the building and I finally got this one lady that told me about the waiver and everything else. And I had originally I got fined one time. I paid that fine right away. And then this officer I have now, Officer Williams, we've been working great together. I've been turning everything in, and I haven't had a problem. My neighbors love it. They're actually improving their houses and stuff throughout the neighborhood.

Okay. But what I want to ask is, because I'm trying to figure out what I'm looking at. I see your front gate. Yes. And then I see the block walls that are next to it. Separate, yes. And then we go to the wood, am I correct? The wood slates in the middle? Yeah, and that is how long in front? The pieces in front? All the wood goes from here to here. How long is that? Because when I look at this last picture, which I think is taken from inside your property. With the golf course? Yeah, but that fence, is that adjacent to the street?

That's my neighbor's gate.

So my neighbor to my right, they had a wall that was shattered, destroyed, and everything else. And with those palm trees, that's my neighbor's house on the other side of that.

Can I see the front?

So the wood, I don't know off the top of my head how long those pieces of wood...

I'm just wondering how long that fence is on Helleman. I'm just wondering, because that's where the front is.

Each section probably seems like 8 feet. They're probably 2 by 4 by 8.

It just... This is Helleman?

Yeah.

I think right here it says.

I just, what I don't want to see is, I guess I'm just trying to take some, look at a breakup so it doesn't look like it's all a fortress or whatever. In my neighborhood, we had one where the guy just put a bunch of brick. It was all... The whole wall was just cement. Yeah, it was a cement, and it just wasn't good, and he wound up putting little holes. This one isn't too bad. Well, mine is.

And they're slats, am I correct? Yes, they're wood slats, yes.

Okay. Okay, thank you. You answered my questions.

Yes. And I have access for packages. I put the mailbox in that center.

Sorry about that.

that center situation, and they told me I couldn't, so I left the original mailbox. I have my drop box. I've also talked to a couple police officers in my neighborhood and let them know when I do have a celebrity client come by. They've beefed up the patrol for me and everything else, and they like that. They like the gates.

Okay, thank you.

You're welcome.

Commissioner Kirk?

Thank you. This is in my district. Just a couple of things. Now, one of the reasons you don't see this typically is because we like our yards to be open. I mean, up and down your street, you can see the front yards of your neighbors. your home is the only one I can see on Google Earth where I can't see your front of your house? Straight through?

Yeah. Yeah.

And that's, believe it or not, that one of the things that the police like when they talk about security, they like to be able to see into people's yards in case people are, you know, and they're doing bad things, they can jump the fence and hide behind the fence and not seen from the street. So I think it cuts both ways. On one sense, it gives you privacy, and on the other sense, I'm not so sure it's as secure as, I mean, you're an athletic guy, obviously. I bet you could hop that fence in your younger day, no problem, right?

Back in the day, I'm an ex-basketball player. Perfect example, my neighbors next to me, they're elderly. Their alarm went off for the last couple days because they've been traveling. I kid you not, maybe 10 police cars pulled up. My neighbor across from me, one of those papers that he signed, he's ex-LAPD. He doesn't have any cameras. So when I leave, he watches my house. When he leaves, I watch his house. But the 10 police cars that lined up, he let me know. He was like, there's 10 police cars in front of your house. I'm like, okay. So I went out, spoke to the police. And if you look, the pictures might show the slats kind of closer than they really are. But if you walk to my gate, you can look through any of those slats and see straight through and see everything that you need to see. It's not, they're not all connected. Maybe the picture is showing it, but there's probably about that much that you can see directly, front of the house, side of the house, where my car is. You can see everything, because I was speaking to the police officers that were dealing with the incident next door, straight through the slats. I didn't even have to come out.

And the other thing I wanted to mention, if you're saying your neighbors are liking it, I would recommend that your neighbors make sure they get the proper permits prior to building. Yeah. They're not in the same situation you're in where you've already built it. Right. It makes it difficult for us as a citizen board to look at something like this where a citizen has spent thousands of dollars, I think, in building this. 75,000. And then they build it and they go, well, I didn't know. Yeah. And so that puts us in a bad position because we're like, well, Do we approve it? One nice thing you do have going for you is you have your two neighbors to either side and your neighbor across the street who have signed the document saying that they're okay with it. I think that goes a long ways. Thank you. Here. And so... And one of those neighbors that signed it...

He started building, and I went across the street and told him to stop. He better get a permit. Yeah, I told him, jump on it now.

See, that's the thing that happens. One guy does it, and then the next guy does it, and they all say, well, he did it. And then he didn't get a permit, and he did it, and then the next guy. So you can see that causes a problem for us.

Of course.

Because where do we stop?

Of course.

Where do we say, okay, we're not going to allow it anymore. We did it for you and we're going to do it for you. And so there's a bit of we want to make sure we treat everyone equally and we're fair across the board.

Yeah, and he, like I said, I went across, I told him everywhere I went to get all my stuff and he's been doing that process now.

And you said to him, don't do as I do, do as I say. Yeah.

Well, like I said, he was excited when I started and seeing my process because he probably has more classic cars than I do. And then once mine was done, he was like, I'm going to do it. And I seen him start putting up the concrete walls. And when he started getting to the middle part, I told him.

You better come to this.

Yeah, get on top of it early.

Because if he comes, if we see him in another year, we're going to call you down. You're going to blame it on me. You're going to come down and testify and say, hey, I told him.

Yeah, I guess I won't be signing his paper.

Yeah, you better sign his. I told him not to do it. That's what you should sign. All right, you know, like I said, it makes it difficult for us to ask someone to tear it down or to make major modifications once it's built. If your neighbor's okay with it, you think it's okay. The one thing I was gonna have a problem with is if this was an Airbnb, I was going to deny it. No, I own it. But since you're living there and it's your residence and you're there, I'm okay with it, so I will make a motion to approve item 15 WS260323. Yeah, no review period, just my motion.

There's a motion on the floor. Please cast your vote.

Commissioner Frazier, yes.

That motion carries, good luck, thank you.

Appreciate your time.

This is final action unless appealed. Next on your agenda are public comments.

Are you here for an item? Oh, you're just here to, okay, thank you. What about you, are you here for an item? No? Okay. Last public comments. No public comments. We will close public comments and we will adjourn the meeting. Thank you. Good night, everybody.