Board of Managers - Regular Meeting

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and Jay's 41st anniversary.

Happy anniversary. Thank you.

As I said, the honeymoon continues.

And you're standing here. No better place to be.

So the meeting's called to order, and the first thing on the agenda is the approval of the minutes, the regular minutes from July 13th and our special meeting that we had August 11th. Anybody have any questions, concerns, changes?

I move to approve the minutes of the board manager's regular meeting of July 13, 2026 on schedule meetings, held August 11, 2026.

Great. Move your microphone towards your face. Thank you. Did you hear that on record? We did. Second. Sensitive microphones. All in favor?

Aye.

Aye. Any opposed? Great. We approve the minutes. Next is the treasurer's report.

I have nothing to add to the written report.

Great, so next is Appeals, Special Permit, and Variance Requests. And we have our first variance request, which is offense.

Yes, sorry, bear with me one sec. I am handling this appeal this evening on behalf of Aurelio, our Permitting Code Enforcement Coordinator, who we gave the night off. This is a relatively straightforward case filed by Neil and Darcy Thompson. of 11 East Irving Street. They are seeking a variance to install a fence that would measure four feet in height, which is a compliant height for the proposed location, but would be located within three feet of a public sidewalk, specifically the sidewalk that runs along Brookville Road. This is a corner property located at the northeast corner of East Irving and Brookville. There are two existing lines of fencing One is privacy fencing that's shown in the photo. It's covered with greenery, but it runs along the Brookville Road sidewalk. That specific fence was the subject of a previously issued special exception from the board due to its height in the public right of way. The applicant has also installed a four foot high picket fence on their private property that essentially turns from Brookville and runs parallel with East Irving Street that fence is also compliant several years ago the board adopted a ordinance that restricts fences from being located within three feet of a public sidewalk so that has left between these two sections of compliant fence a gap that may be hard to see here in the photo But there's an opening between the privacy and picket fences. There's currently essentially kind of a mesh wire that we have allowed the applicants to leave up temporarily until they could bring their case here before the board for your consideration. The staff believe that this is a reasonable request to allow these residents to fully enclose their yards so that they can keep both children and pets contained within the yard. It is consistent with other board precedents for variances that you have authorized, and it is a modest section of less than four feet at 10 inches in length. Happy to answer any questions. And are the Thompsons here in the room? I do not see them on. It looks like we have someone from Fair Gardens, Amber Fair, who may be representing the applicants.

Okay. Does anyone have any questions about this, keeping their pets and children safe on Brookville Road? Does anyone have a motion about it?

I move to approve the variance request in case A8892 on the basis that the evidence presented, including the staff report and case synopsis, demonstrates that the applicable requirements for approval of the variance have been met. Staff is directed to draft a decision based on this evidence, including findings of fact and conclusions approving the variance.

Thank you.

Okay, all in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, that's approved. So the next thing is we have an update and board discussion on some pending matters. So we have written testimony going to the Montgomery County Planning Board's public hearing draft of the Friendship Heights Sector Plan. And we had an amazing performance by Lou Morseberger today at 4 p.m. at the planning board.

We presented our position.

He was fantastic.

Thank you. At today's hearing of the planning board, I offered verbal testimony along with some slides, and I think we'll have some of these slides to show here, especially the highlight slides. What was presented today represents the Board decision as adopted at the August 11 special meeting and the discussion that was held at that meeting. Of course, all of this was taking place on a fairly accelerated schedule given, as we learned, the Planning Board's calendar and when we would be expected to submit testimony again, both the verbal testimony today, and the written testimony, which we have a few more days on. That is largely drafted. It's not finalized yet. There's probably a few refinements still. The position taken today, we jumped to slide, I think it's probably slide three. Now, there's an awful lot of folks who've been following this know that there's an awful lot of detail in our response to what the planning staff has proposed. Today was just focused primarily on these really four key points. Number one, the Village Board strongly supports the revitalization goal. And then the subsequent phrase there, and also the need to protect single family neighborhoods abutting the CCLC parcel. Secondly, this goal must be balanced with reasonable compatibility transitions to protect existing homes. Thirdly, sector plans necessarily must include open space compatibility and other community-oriented recommendations. Fourthly, an overlay zone is essential to implementation of compatibility standards. We focused on these four points today, primarily to make sure that we were on the record with a clear response to what the Chevy Chase Land Company proposed on Thursday, which I think a lot of us who were watching that presentation were surprised by the scope of what they proposed. But at the same time, This process with the planning board is not a negotiation where we would stake out a de minimis or obstructionist position simply to be at the opposite end of what CCLC would be proposing. All of our advisors have consistently told us to make a reasonable proposal. To the planning board, that's what our written testimony accomplishes. That's what I think that today's in person testimony accomplish. The next steps after today, and I'm not sure if. Any of the others, you know if there's questions we can happily refer to some of these Let's we can we can show slide five perhaps because I think that's the most dramatic Slide today. This is the build-out and we've seen versions of this in prior board meetings. This is the diagram showing what the public hearing draft would would permit on the CCLC parcels and as the comments today indicated this looms this would loom over the adjacent homes hence our proposal to scale that back terribly significantly um and then you know of course the step the process goes forward from here um our recommendation go forward one more slide slide six scaling that back pretty dramatically. And there's a lot that goes into this diagram in terms of, gee, the setbacks that this diagram would apply, what the transition heights are at the edge between the village and the CCLC parcel, the ultimate maximum height, also the angular plane. These are things I've been learning about in the last few months in terms of the angle that is permissible from the adjoining neighborhood to the nearby building heights. um i think that our position is a fairly solid position um from here um so i'll leave it there on the slides um but from here the planning board takes the testimony that it received in the thursday hearing today's hearing and in writing continual you know that continues through the 17th um it'll take that testimony and they will have a working session on september 24th Right. They may have more than one working session remains to be seen. As they arrive at a decision, the next phase of this process is with the County Council. And Uh, in all likelihood, the current county council. Will not address this sector plan because of the upcoming election. The new county council will be seated in early December. Um, and they would be the 1st, uh, the 1st county council, uh, to hear this in all likelihood, it would not be earlier than January. So as things move, as the planning board does its job, kind of pulls together the various points of view, then it will go to the county council. I do think that the final point on that summary, where I had, there were like four bullet points, talking about the overlay is perhaps the most critical point because as all these different points of views, clearly show a lot of discrepancies in how people are approaching this. The overlay becomes an enforceable legislative tool to say, this is what the limits will be, what the standards will be going forward. And so I think a lot of our efforts going forward will probably be focused on what is in that overlay. So I'll leave it at there, but I'm hoping others who've been involved in that process, please weigh in and add to what I've just shared.

Thank you very much for all the work that you've been doing on it. And thank you, Shana and Michelle and everyone who's been working so hard on this.

Quick question for Lou. Did you hear any other testimony that you thought might be something we should think about?

There wasn't any surprising testing.

Okay, that's basically what I'm asking.

There was nothing. I mean, there were kind of the points of view of there are folks, of course, who believe that a sector plan in the time of the housing shortage build more. There were folks who don't live in Friendship Heights, don't live in any Chevy Chase community who testified that the more units that can be built, the better. Um, they didn't necessarily show regard for the impact that might have on any aspect. Of livability and friendship, like village directly environment, schools, what have you much less on neighboring community. But, but that's, you know, we've heard plenty of that before. So it wasn't.

May I add just 1 clarifying point for what's on the screen? So this is the 1st time that the community will see that we've placed a measurement between. that first building closest to Western Grove Park and the park itself. As we were putting together the testimony, we realized that Although the board had supported a generous setback there from Western Grove Park to that first building, we hadn't actually identified a number. So we took the image that the board essentially supported, had the land planner plot out what that distance was. And so that is the distance that you see applied here, which is also consistent with what is in the public hearing draft of the sector plan. A number isn't given in the sector plan. We've actually put a number to it. So I thought it was just important for us to point that out. It's consistent with the board's overall position as reached August 11th. But in order for us to be specific with all of these various different points, we thought it was important for us to actually assign a number and a distance to that. The same thing with the heights for that building then as it continues west towards Wisconsin Avenue. The board had indicated your support for height starting at 85 and going to 130 and 170. We didn't focus in during your August 11 special meeting on what those depths should be. And so we asked the land planner, again, based upon the materials that had been generated, based upon what could be built within that property area. depth basically from that starting point 150 feet from the park going out to wisconsin avenue and so the depths that you see referenced there are consistent with that so again all consistent with the board's position but this is the first time that the community will see that actual numbers have been assigned to those steps so just want to point that out and and also these green buildings are not real buildings or even proposed buildings they're just an envelope

for development that would have to go through many, many, many steps before approval. So we're at the beginning. It's not our last bite at the apple, but we took a bite.

And thank you for that great update.

So the next thing is the Maryland Department of Housing and Community Development proposed legislation for the 2027 legislative session.

Mr. Goodman is providing that update.

I'm going to pick up that topic. Thank you. Okay, so as Alyssa indicated, I'm going to be discussing the topic of housing related legislation that we understand is likely to be proposed by the Maryland Department of Housing and Community Development in the upcoming Maryland state legislative session. This issue was front and center in in last year's Maryland legislative session, and we fully expect it will be again in the 2027 legislative session. So in July, the Maryland chapter of the Maryland, the Montgomery County chapter of the Maryland Municipal League hosted a virtual meeting with Secretary Jake Day of the Maryland Department of Housing and Community Development and the department's chief legal officer, Chuck Cook. And during that virtual meeting, they laid out for the village and other local municipalities here, the department's tentative legislative agenda for the 2027 session, including three bills in particular. Most prominently among them is the department expects to reintroduce last year's favorite, the unsuccessful Starter and Silver Homes Act with amendments that had been requested by various jurisdictions in the last session. This bill was the focus of immense attention in the last session because for communities like the village and neighboring jurisdictions, the proposed legislation would have automatically increased our housing density significantly and stripped away much of our authority to regulate setbacks and other building limitations. working together with neighboring jurisdictions, we devoted a significant amount of time and effort to bringing forth to the key legislative players what the shortcomings were with this legislation. And this included the submission of written testimony. It included one-on-one meetings in Annapolis. The end result of those efforts was that the bill last session, even as amended, died in committee. Well, going back now to this legislative session, along with the proposed reintroduction of the Starter and Silver Homes Act, we learned that the department plans to introduce two other bills in the upcoming session. One would eliminate parking minimums in certain areas, including the village. and the other would automatically increase density on residentially zoned property, of which a lot in the village. Significantly, however, during this virtual meeting in July, the department leaders indicated that they were open to an amendment to the Starter and Silver Homes Act that would, and I'm going to read their words, exempt municipalities that are built out and who cannot annex surrounding land. And the thrust of this comment was they were going to exempt communities like ours where they'd already been developed. The department invited us at neighboring towns to submit language that would implement that exemption. And in late August, we joined with Somerset in submitting proposed language that would do just that for the Starter and Silver Homes Act. It would effectively carve out the village and other neighboring jurisdictions. We took that a step further and proposed similar exemptions to the other two bills that they were going to propose, even though we weren't actually invited to do that. We also joined another letter. This was with 10 local jurisdictions that raised a host of questions and concerns more broadly about the three bills. If anyone would like to join me and our council and Shana and Lou in the weeds on this, we're going to post or we have posted the two letters that we joined in August and the slides from the department's virtual presentation in July. The short of it is that the considerable time and effort that we put into tracking this legislation, commenting on it in the last legislative session, really worked to the villages and other jurisdictions' advantage, and the end result was favorable. Our plan for the upcoming session is, once again, to be diligent in keeping track of these legislative proposals, including the proposed exemptions that we have submitted, and working with neighboring towns to ensure that our voice is being heard as these legislative proposals are being considered. It's important to remember we're not the deciders in this. We're advocates for the village's interests here. There's a theme emerging in this. and we will do our very best. In that connection, we're going to be considering on the agenda later a proposed contract with Richard Tapito. He is a legislative lobbyist and we're proposing to have him assist us with our efforts in the upcoming legislation. legislative session. The Village retained Richard during the last session to assist us with these efforts, as did Somerset in Section 5. Richard was very helpful in the last session, and we would be well served to have him assisting us again. We also were not surprisingly well served by our outside counsel, Michelle and Sue Ellen, and we plan to continue to use their help in the upcoming session. That is the scintillating news on the upcoming legislative session. If anybody has any questions, I would be happy to answer them.

That was an amazing update.

Oh, well, thank you.

Does everyone feel updated? So the next update we have is the streetlight ownership case.

Sue Ellen. we are continuing under case number 9703 in front of the public service commission the last issue in front of them was the disconnect devices they commission itself had requested that other utilities provide information about whether or not they would require disconnect devices of local governments buying their lights and whether they use them themselves and what we know is the utilities do not use them themselves but they do wish to impose that requirement on the local governments. So there was information that was not fully in front of the PSC. So you've seen a letter that was written to them to make clear what actually is going on. We're waiting for their answer. They're in the middle of a number of large tariff discussions with PEPCO right now, not having to do the streetlights So they have other things on their agenda, but hopefully they will provide a final decision on this soon. The agreements otherwise are pretty much ready to go. And so we could then proceed. That's where we are. Thanks.

It's been a long haul. Long street, light haul. So we can move on to contract authorizations where we spend some money. And the first one will be the lobbyists that you mentioned.

So I think Mr. Goodman set it up well for our consideration of an agreement with Richard Tabido and specifically his firm Tabido LLC to retain his services for not only the upcoming legislative session, which as you know, runs January through April, but also for lobbying services ahead of the legislative session itself. Much of the work to fight bills, as Mr. Goodman just summarized, happens well before the legislative session begins. And so retaining richer services, I'm proposing starting in October would allow him to start a lot of the work behind the scenes to get ahead of whether it be housing or other forms of legislation that would be impactful to us. For the upcoming legislative session, although as was noted by Mr. Goodman, we retained Richard Thabito last year specifically for housing legislative matters. There are a fair number of bills and typically the first session after new legislators are elected tends to be even more interesting in the number and type of bills that are entered by new legislators. That could be impactful to us as it relates to personnel management, public safety and our police function, et cetera. So, I've talked to Richard about a general lobbying representation agreement, which he is not only willing, but also well experienced in being able to represent our interest on any bills that may come up during the session that could be impactful to us. And so what he has proposed for what would start in October of this year, running through the end of the legislative session, April 27 would be 4,000 a month for pre-session representation, 6,000 a month during the session for a total of 36,000. I will just flag here that both if the board proceeds with this agreement, coupled with the amount of time and services that we have needed From Michelle Rosenfeld, the zoning attorney, and from John Markle and our land planner, I will be returning to the board within the next couple of months to amend the professional services line item in the current operating budget to fund the additional use of these professional services. But certainly, as has been evidenced by the two updates that we received from Mr. Morseberger and Mr. Goodman, these are services certainly that we need for protecting the village's interests. So happy to answer any questions.

Anybody have any questions?

I move to authorize an override of the competitive bidding requirements and to authorize the village manager to enter into a contract in substantially the form provided and subject to review by village council with Tabido LLC for the performance of lobbying services.

Second. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? No. Thank you. So now we have Consulting Engineering Services.

With that, we'll turn it over to Jacqueline Parker.

Thank you. Okay. So the first contract I'm going to speak to is the Consulting Engineering Services. That current contract is ending, and as required by the Villages Procurement Ordinance, it was posted on the eMaryland Procurement website. The IFB was sent out to 160 firms and I received 13 complete bid packages. In speaking with the references that were provided, I am putting forth Bengal Engineers LLC as a the consulting engineering service. Though they are smaller, their references spoke very highly about them, their attention to detail, their ability to identify creative solutions, and because they were smaller, being able to get in touch with them more often or not with the same person. And yes, so I would like to put before you the Bengal Engineers LLC as the consulting engineer.

I can just add one finer point to Jackie's comments there. Thank you, Jackie, for doing such a thorough review of these 13 bid packages that came in. But one of the concerns that we've had with the last two engineers who have had this consulting services contract has been that the turnaround for their review and assessment of matters that are brought to their attention been very slow so this consulting engineering contract has been entered into twice so this will be now the village's third time for a general services engineering contract and the last two firms were much much larger outfits than the contractor that we are recommending here what we have found with those larger outfits is that the work that we are sending to them tends to just get lost in the mix and we tend to have a very slow response time. That results in projects being slowed down. That results in our ability to review and turn around building permits slowing down. So it's really important that we look for a contractor who's going to be able to handle the volume of work that we are sending, but will also be able to prioritize that work for us. Through the conversations that Jackie was able to have both with this company And with their references, we are very, very comfortable that although they will be much smaller than the contractors we've had previously, they will be able to adequately satisfy the needs under this contract. So just wanted to add that point.

And is it safe to assume that their bid was competitive?

Competitive and, frankly, was the most comprehensive of all the bids that we received, which I think is also a very good sign.

And you had mentioned once in the past, great references.

Correct. Correct. Very positive references. Absolutely. Yes. And they've had a broad range of contracts with municipalities, school systems. So yeah, we are confident that they will be able to do a very good job for us.

Any questions?

I move to authorize the Village Manager to enter into a contract in substantially the form provided and subject to review by Village Council with Bengal Engineers LLC for the performance of consulting engineering services for an initial term of three years.

Second. All in favor? Aye. Great, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And the next is the Landscape Architect.

Yes. So this is for the landscape architecture and design services contract, which is expired. And this was also sent out to the email and procurement website. And that was sent to 161 bidders. And we received nine complete bid packets. And looking through all the bid packets, I spoke to a lot of the references for these companies also. And, um, I'm suggest, uh, I'm recommending Jaden design associates. Um, yes, that's another small company. Uh, it's a local gentleman. Uh, he likes to use, um, native plants. Uh, he likes to involve the, uh, basically he, he takes what's around them and builds designs around what is the community and such like that. All of their references spoke very highly of them, that they're willing to work with you, that they will put forth other ideas and they will incorporate those. So it seemed like a good idea to put forth this design company.

Any questions authorized the village matter enter new into a contract and substantially the force provided subject to review by the village council with Ted and design associates for the performance landscape. Architectural services for initial year, initial term of 3 years.

2nd, okay all in favor. I think you post great. Thank you. We procured some things. The next thing is a proclamation. The Garden Club of Chevy Chase, it's centennial, which is quite lovely and amazing. So we have a long proclamation, which I'm going to read tomorrow at the Garden Club meeting.

I won't read the whole thing here.

I want to save my voice for tomorrow, but I'll read some of it. Proclamation. Whereas the Garden Club of Chevy Chase was created on March 6th, 1926 by a group of Chevy Chase residents with a mission to to share the knowledge and love of gardening, to aid in the protection and love of native plants, trees, birds, and to encourage civic planting and environmental responsibility. And then we have another bunch of whereases about all the stuff they do for us, which is a lot. Now, therefore, the Chevy Chase Village Board of Managers on this 14th day of September, 2026, recognizes the contributions that the Garden Club of Chevy Chase has made to Chevy Chase Village and the surrounding community and we express our profound gratitude for their work and dedication in the celebration of their centennial anniversary. So as I said, I'm gonna read the whole thing tomorrow to the Garden Club and they do do amazing civic things for us and the neighbors and the whole community. Congratulations.

We don't have a formal vote, but just a sense of the board in support of issuing the proclamation.

Yeah. I mean, seriously, anybody opposed to issuing this proclamation?

This is the easy stuff. Yeah.

Okay. So the next thing is we have some commission and committee matters. The buildings facility commission point.

So the board can go ahead and take all of these, if someone is so bold and wants to take all of these committee appointments altogether, you can. But just to run through them quickly, Gail Weiswasser has, and I apologize if I did not pronounce that correctly, has stepped up and is willing to finish out the term of an alternate member on the Building Facilities Commission who previously stepped down for a term ending in April of 2028. On the election supervisors, Robert Brokesmith of East Kirk Street has agreed to serve another four-year term, which would end in July of 2030. And Oren Baird of Oliver Street has agreed to be reappointed to the Personnel Commission for a three-year term as a member and a one-year term as chair.

Wow. Well, we thank them for their volunteering. Does anyone want to handle this all as a

1 motion, I'll give it a try. Um, uh. In regards to the building facilities commission, I moved to appoint Gail Weiswasser of West Kirk street to complete the term of a former alternate member term ending April. In regards to the election supervisors, I move to reappoint Robert Brokeschmidt of East Kirk Street to serve as a member of the election supervisors for a four-year term ending July 2030. And regarding the personnel commission, I move to reappoint Warren Baird of Oliver Street to serve a three-year term as a member ending September 2029 and a one-year term as chair, term ending September 2027. Second. Great job.

All in favor? Aye. Okay, so we did that. The next thing is the police report. Police Chief John Neskey.

Hey, good evening, everyone. Good evening. For the month of August, we had one auto theft and one attempted auto theft, both in the same evening. The theft occurred in the unit block of West Irving Street. between, on August 6th, between 2 p.m. and 9 a.m. of August 7th. The suspect stole a vehicle from West Irving Street by possibly using the valet key that was left in the vehicle. But the other piece of that is in Montgomery County and in the surrounding areas, there are some professional groups that are going and they have the technology to rekey vehicles. So they've been doing that with some of the high-end stuff. So we have seen that in the region, so it could be a coincidence that the valet key was still in there. That same timeframe, they attempted to steal a vehicle from Magnolia Parkway by breaking the rear passenger window. They were unable to get the car started, but the reason I'm thinking it's part of the key fob is that the owner came out the next day and their key fobs didn't work. So either they got disrupted or they couldn't finish the job. So they got enough to erase the program in the car, but they couldn't get another key program for it. That's my thinking at least. We did have one burglary in the 5000 block of Kirkside Drive, a bit of a time span between August 8th and August 12th. Suspect entered the house and removed items. We think the entry point may have been part of two window screens that were removed. but it's hard to say because the items on the windowsill were still in place. That's the only thing that we could really track was two screens being taken down. And we had one attempt, we had one theft from auto, excuse me, 5,000 block of Cedar Parkway on August 9th between 11 a.m. and 1.15. And we had a suspect in a high visibility vest broke into a contractor's truck Again, that's fitting the pattern that we've seen in the area around the county where same suspect wearing a contractor type vest breaks into contractors' vehicles and removes tools. For that, we did a detail where we just kind of sat across or kind of parked around some of the houses that some had the major contractors working. I hope we scared them off. We did everything else besides that. on the administrative side both are our new police vehicles uh one is the unmarked chevy blazer ev and another ford hybrid marked vehicle are in service and the two older or the vehicles that were replaced are now up for auction uh ending about the end of the month that's all i have any questions could i ask a follow-up question yes chief could you say a little bit more about

car theft with the changing of the keys or the locks? Sure. And what village residents might do, if anything, to avoid the aforementioned activity?

There's absolutely not a lot you can do to avoid having your key, your vehicle reprogrammed. It's electronic. It goes, they get into the data port. They basically rewire or re-engineer your key and to the vehicle.

Doesn't that take a lot of time, though?

It can take a bit of time, which is maybe what happened on Magnolia Parkway as they got interrupted somehow. So a lot of it goes back to the things we always talk about, lighting, especially sensor lighting. So it's one thing to have a light on. You can have graded lighting that if it hits a sensor, it becomes brighter. Your ring or your doorbell cameras that cover that area, too, that can send signals for movement, maybe an alarm to your phone. If you want to really go old school, you can go out and get a steering wheel lock. Remember the old hooks that go across the steering wheel? Everything old is new again. Those are coming back as well because it's low tech. But that's probably the best strategy you can look at.

So, Chief, this is for cars that have electronic fobs?

Yes, electronic fobs.

Okay. I had thought if you bought one of those little devices where you put your fob in it and it didn't send out any radio waves, nobody could get into your car. Are you telling me that's not correct?

No, they need to get in the car, hence the broken window on Magnolia.

I see. They break a window.

Right. If they can gain entry, they can get to your computer data port, which would, they plug the machine in to recalibrate the key. Okay.

Also, I recommend not owning a car that anybody would want to steal. That's how I handle it.

I'll make sure that goes in the next email. Yeah, I mean, what car would that be?

Apparently, Mr. Crawford can show you.

Well, thank you for your report. And now we have a manager's report.

The only thing I'll add to my written report is that the traffic study for the east side of the village, as well as the efficacy study that the board authorized in conjunction with our neighbors in the town of Chevy Chase, but their existing access restrictions along Connecticut Avenue is commencing this week. We expect a report from the contractor, the traffic group by early October, and we are planning to bring their report and recommendations to the board for your consideration in November. Nothing else to add unless there are any questions.

Any questions? Okay. So we've come to that point in the meeting.

I move to adjourn. Second.

All in favor?

Aye.

Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you all.