Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Well, she does this to me. She does that. Good evening everybody and welcome to the planning and zoning meeting of Chesapeake Beach, March 25, 2026. And I would like to bring this meeting to order. Uh let's uh have roll call, please. Let's go ahead and begin down at this end. And Rut present, obviously. Rachel Weaver, also present. Lori Brown and I'm Cindy Greenold. Mary Sue Gman also present. Christopher Smith. I'm also present.

Madame Clerk, please note that Commissioner Han is missing tonight. And now we'd like to go ahead and do the pledge of allegiance. Um Commissioner um Brown, would you like to please go ahead and lead us in the pledge, please? Thank you. Appreciate that. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States.

Thank you, Commissioner Brown. Okay. I'd like to have the approval, please. A motion for the approval of the March 25, 2026 planning commission agenda. Do I hear a motion to approve? I'll second it. Any questions, deletions, etc. I see none. Uh please uh raise your hand if you approve this this agenda. Thank you. Okay. Now we go on to the approval of the minutes of February 4th planning commission meeting. Do I have a motion to approve? Uh, I'll make a motion to approve the February 4th, 2026 commission meeting minutes. Thank you. Do I have a second? I'll second.

Thank you. Uh, any questions or deletions or changes? No. I see none. Okay. Let's have a vote. All in favor of approving, please. I. Okay. Thank you. Next. Approval of the minutes of the February 4th uh close session. Have a second. Second. I'll second. Seconded. made the motion. Um, I think you made the motion for this last one, right? You seconded. I guess I This doesn't look good, Larry. We have to rewind. We have to rewind already. Okay, we have a second. We have a motion. We have a second. Any deletions or changes? Okay, I

Yes. Question because I wasn't here. So, you guys just forgot to approve the minutes last night. Quum. We didn't have a quorum. Yeah, there you go. Okay, so I see no changes or issues. Okay, so uh please say I if you approve I Okay, thank you. And the next one is approve the minutes of the February February 25th, 2026 planning commission meeting. Do I have a motion? Approve. Second. Second.

And uh any questions, deletions, changes, etc. Okay, I see none. Please uh say I if you uh approve. I thank you. Okay. Thank you. Next, we have any public comments? I see nobody in the meeting room tonight. Let's go ahead to old business. We're good. I did the close session already. Sorry. Yes, that was the one we had confusion over. I just asked.

Yes, we Yes. When we had a confusion over who did you got everything, did you? Okay. Well, I'm Yeah. So, okay. I'm assuming when we all in favor of stick I and she abstained. Okay. So, we had one abstension then.

We had that all straightened out. Okay. So, now we're going to discuss the land use table. Uh actually, let's look at the map first. Let's go to that zoning map. And you know what? Believe this, but I think I left my map at home. Okay. Oh, here. Let's just share. I know you like to share.

We should share everything. That's great. Okay. So, um, uh, Miss Franklin, what would you like to have to tell us about any changes on this zoning map, the draft draft revisions, uh, March 18, 2026? So, I I made revisions to the map based on the discussion at the meeting last month. Um, I did go back and just review the meeting to make sure I was making the appropriate changes. So, it's more if if you look at the map and you agree that I've captured what everyone was saying at the last meeting, um, then we can move forward with it. And for those who weren't at the last meeting, um, what we decided to do was because the RV2 zone is meant to be more intense than the RV1 zone, we decided to make the RV2 zone in the areas where the more intense uses currently are and where there is the space within the the road system to permit the more intense uses. Um we appropriately applied the floating zone for the residential plan community and um although actually it probably needs to be also on the north side of 260 now that I'm looking at that. And we applied uh residential medium density uh zoning to the areas that have housing in those RPCs. So they will now have zoning underlying zoning.

Okay. Any questions on this map? Commissioner Rutki? No questions. Anybody down here have questions? No question. What about down here? One, and I don't know this is just to help when I'm looking at these things. Is there a possibility or if you can point me here's the zoning map that has all the little different areas and it would be so helpful if there was like a a clear paper that had this that we could place over here which would then help orient better when looking at this before and after

like what are you what are you looking I can't see what you're looking at this is an old map but or something that this overlay so that you can see what's changed, but not so much what's changed, but also this just shows kind of the designation of the zoning areas. I would like to have something that is clear so you can see this, but that I can put on top and say, "Oh, that's where I live. This is here where Richfield station is something so that when you look at it, you're immediately oriented just for referencing. That's just and if I have to figure out something in my basement, I will. Okay. So, um

you mean the lot lines? She means the streets, etc. So, she can identify exactly where the lines are delineating, you know, which zones.

Neighborhoods. I think of where I traverse, not so much. I don't think I can see up there in Cox Road where you could kind of not see exactly where the the light pink merges into the green. I kind of I kind of see what you're saying there. Um, if everybody wouldn't mind taking a look at Route 260. You all know where that is cutting uh over to the west. You can see um you can see where 261 is coming north south. And then of course 260 is cutting through um uh Ches Beach uh Beach Road there. So I'm looking at where the antique store is. You see the pink the dark pink there. And then to the right of that or to the uh east of that is now she we've got a little area carved out for RV 2, which would mean that some of these little um cottage areas right here um adjacent to the antique store would then have a a little bit I think right now. What are they zoned right now? I don't have my old map, but they're not. Are they RV2 right now? They may be RV2 right now.

They're RV2 right now. RV2 currently right now, but RV2 um so then if if you can see behind that is all pink, which then would be the RV1. So that was RV2, that is now going to be RV1. Um, so now if you go back to where the antique store is and you go to the left of it, if you're looking at the mat flat and you look to the left of that, which is more like to the west of it. So it'd be where the little cottages are where he's got the antique storage and you know they're for sale. Yeah, for sale, right? Which color is that? You said that was You mean it's like fuchsia colored? That is a cute It's a fuchsia I guess you would call it. This

can I see where you're so it would be this area right here where the antique stores are. Okay. That is considered a town commercial zone. Right. Okay. Sure. So to the left of that are some cottages that are for sale. Yes. And they've got that little alleyway in front, right? Yes. Okay.

So my thought is that that would be another good location for an RV too with possible multiuse housing. Uh you could put some commercial on the bottom. Maybe I there could be some other things you could do than just have the cottages. So what my concern my question is to all of you, would you like to maybe extend the RV2 um from you know where it is on the one side of the town commercial center to the other side to that just the pink area that is currently you know light pink. I want to say

I mean I guess this is what I assumed still were being carried over with A1's spot with the because I my current understanding was that the two at least one cottage if not two next to it were still in the commercial residential zone and that's when it would really help to have Mary Sue's map because I couldn't tell that that wasn't being covered with you like right so yeah so we have a a little issue that we don't know exactly where the zones are stopping and important to know. Um I think though the commercial zone they're they're being marketed as residential commercial buildings for sale. Are those included in there already? I don't think they are, but I could be wrong.

Well, I believe that that is exactly how they're being marketed. So, well, true. That's true. Sorry. The boundaries of that little pink zone, the PC are not changing from what they are currently. No, we understand that. What we're asking is are the cottages that are for sale right now the ones next to the antique next to the antique store are they're in the TC they're included in the TZ zone or are they they are part of that TZ so where does the TC stop then where does that there's a road that comes down and I don't know what the off the top of my head what the name of the road is crossroad D that's not D street there or what is that you should know that

street is You should know it is I think it's I think it's super close but I believe it's F. I think I think it could be F. Yes. Okay. So, and that's where it's so between Okay. So then the dark pink is or fuchsia, whatever we want to call it, then goes to the top of that little gray. Do you want it to go to where Fox where Cox Road hits because Cox Road F comes first and then like if you go a little further up and it appears that there's four more buildings that would then be covered in TC. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. It kind of makes sense just from a visual

like they're a long 260 coming into town like they should. I think Yeah. I think uh the top one there is a the one the White House uh up at the top and then you've got a couple other Yeah. Right. Exactly. What do you think about that, Miss Franklin? Uh maybe thinking about putting that into an RV2. That's RV1, right? I Well, but like you wouldn't be able to have like retail spaces in there under RV1, but under TC you could, right?

Yes. And to clarify, we're changing what is currently an RV2 into an RV1 because we determined that our our factors for what's RV1 versus RV2 are related to off- streetet parking and roadwidth availability. And so that is why we're changing RV2 to RV1. And I think the TC can certainly come up. It's not those that decision factor isn't the same for the TC as it is for the RVs. If I if I understand the map, sorry.

You're thinking that where this ends like Yes. There it really should come out. And I think what you mean is so there's, you know, the Cox Road is like a horseshoe. When you're leaving town and you make that left into Cox Road, it seems like that would be the delineation of where you could have some mixed use. Those buildings could be, let's say, a yoga studio and a coffee shop or something because that area is fairly commercial.

Yep. Leos is across the street. The uh kettle corn is across the street. um all all of that and I think that's a delineation that makes sense kind of with topography with the turn lane. I could be wrong but that's just my sense of it that kind Yeah, I mean I I agree. I feel like that is the area of town that in that feels like the most ripe for development and should be the place that like brings you in and you're excited about coming into town that you see things. So, but it shouldn't be like, you know, fivetory buildings or anything. It should be something that is sort of tells you what we're about. Yeah.

Yeah. But I'm not talking about going all the way to Cox Road. I'm talking about going to the Little Road. Well, that's already being covered is what Yeah, that I guess it's already being covered actually. I didn't realize that when I first looked at this map. So, that's So, if you're not trying to include those other four buildings because there's four buildings.

Yes, I do see that. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. I think All right. I think otherwise it looks like a much more a cleaned up map, I think, is what it is. And I like the idea that we've taken the RV 2 area and kind of really made it more precisely what it is characteristically so that it it is more cohesive with our definitions. So, I like that change. Um, anybody else have an an issue or do we want to like um go ahead and make a motion to approve this or how do you want to do this? What do you want to do? More conversation on it? Well, I mean, but so we've talked about this and then

Well, it looks as though it already is part of the town commercial area. Well, I think Mary I'm suggesting Mary Sue is suggesting I think to extend the TC up to include that next block along 26. And I know it stops like there's a house, you know, and there's like a little landscaping on the left as you're coming in that I think says CB like with a big stone or something that right and that house is up on a little null. Well, but that house is not on 260 really because there is that access

is No, the access lane though isn't on that that block in the same way that it You mean the alley? The front alley? Yeah, the front alley isn't on that part. So, it actually I think would be a harder place to have a commercial because there's because you'd have to be back in the neighborhood. There you go. And that would create Got it. Whereas like the other one there is the state highway that is that front alley that keep traffic in and this covers that. Yes, it does cover that. It does cover it. I didn't see I couldn't see that either. So that's great.

Um and of course now we've got the horizons by the bay. We've got that covered in the correct zone which this allows for because it's now in the RV too. So, that's what an important change is. I remember um I'm trying to think of the other changes that we made that were significant, but I happen to think there's a much cleaner version than we've had before. Uh and it does protect the cottage cottages, the historic cottage nature of of the pink RV1 area. I like that. Um

okay. Um we can either have a motion now or we can wait till the end. How do you want to do this? Anybody have any particular idea? What do you think we should do on that, Miss Franklin? Do you have a a particular need to approve this map right now or should we, you know, it might behoove us to wait go through some of the other um the land uses and just make sure that everything syncs up with our idea of where everything is. So, let's hold on um making a motion to approve it. We're going to go through the zoning districts first, really get a sense that we've we've matched it up correctly. So everybody go to the chart the um land use classifications table I guess is what you want to call it please. Okay. So, if you look at the first thing, which is residential uses, um we talked about this on the phone earlier and we came to the conclusion that we need to touch up some of our um descriptions and and uh whatever. Uh if you can see on the uh draft of our of our actual um purpose and intents of the districts, we're going to kind of clean that up again for next time. But but if you go through and quickly look at this table as to what is sort permitted and not permitted in the residential uses. Does anybody have any issues about those particular um characteristics uses? Yes, ma'am.

Just and you and I had talked about this and then we talked Sarah you and I talked about it before the meeting, but the use of single family. I mean that's kind of an out that's like a 1960s 1970s Brady Bunch kind well that was not really two families but earlier than that if you don't mind.

Well yes 50s4s yes but that's but but families are different now and I think that single family kind of gets into traditional uh struct human structures that we don't necessarily use today. And I'm wondering if we should put in PNS or just something that this this is, you know, you don't have to all be related. It could be people that are cohabitating. They consider themselves family, but it's not a single family because it might have children from one marriage and children from another. I don't know if it matters, but while we're

I know they're still using the term because as I look through all the other codes around, they're still using single family and everybody on the internet seems to be doing it. But I do know that at some point we're going to be changing those terms. The question is do we want to do that now? Do you want to do further research on that or how do you want to uh deal with that? Because I think we are probably looking towards making it a more uh unified or more neutral I guess would be the better term. Uh detached dwelling that seems like the internet's preference. Yes. just googling like what single detach are people using instead of it so that you are seeing that there is a change

yeah though I mean this is pretty cutting edge even the internet's like is going on I'm not sure um I would say I think this is a a good conversation to have because we've been asked to modernize this and I think that it would be good for me to do a little more research and also just consult with the attorney if there's any implications we're not thinking of by changing it. But I I don't think it's bad to do what we are tasked with doing and modernize things. Okay.

Okay. So, we're going to put you on that assignment. But in the meantime, we're going to understand what it really means and we're going to go through and just look at this chart and just make sure that it looks pretty much as you would assume it would. Um, we're going to go ahead and use the same designations P and NPC, even though I think we're talking about maybe even changing that up. I don't know. Um, but right now, does this look okay to everybody or does anybody have any questions with the residential uses? Give you one quick minute to look it over. Okay, I don't see anybody's uh big questions. And if I see no questions, I'm going to turn the page to the next set of

So now we're going to go to um Oh, you know, I do have a question on the next page actually where it says dwelling unit in combination with commercial use. You have um TC as having uh a condition a conditional use. Have residences in the TC? I'm trying to think. The TC does allow um single family detached dwellings, but I thought in the where do we have a residential area in the commercial?

Doesn't currently the what was the what the Papa John's building, right? Doesn't that have a res? There's a apartment as a part of that building. Oh, I guess there is, isn't there? Well, there is of the liquor store, too. Mixed use places. A Okay, I guess that is No. So, if you

people will be out of that would be the town commercial. That's right. Okay. So, that's good. Thank you. Okay, that clarified that for me. Thank you. Let's go on to accommodations and group living. Um, this gets a little bit more interesting. We've got bed and breakfast, etc. I know I had some questions on the bed and breakfast and I'm trying to think what they were here now. I think um Oh, yes, the bed and breakfast. It's on page 15 if you want to look at it in the description part of it. Um it is um in just about every district. Yes, it is. Um, I guess I was going to ask you, do we want to change the not to exceed 90 days per year per cl per is it supposed to be per client or do what do we want to change with that?

I think that was the intent is that you're not going to have the same lodger residing like the idea is that you're not you're not running a boarding house, you're running a bed and breakfast. So you could have someone there for the season but not all year. It's not it's not rental units all year round. Um and so I think it is intended to be per So okay. So we want to add we want to add the term the terms per client, right? Or per renter or per per some something per use visitor

per visitor. Okay. You want to use per. So what if they rent a room and two visitors come into each room or to come into one of the rooms? How does that work? So there the state has rules about how many people can be occupying a bed and breakfast. I think it can't have more than 19. This is off the top of my head, so I could I need to check that, but I think it has to be less than 19 people staying. And then there's also a square footage requirement which again I want to say is like

your base is 90 square feet and then it's 50 square feet per person after that. Again I want to check those numbers but that's giving you a rough idea of the range of what the state's regulations are. Does that mean that something about that should be referenced in here if it's more guidelines? So it the way we reference it is we say that the facility is operated through a state approved bread bed and breakfast registry which means they're going to have to go and comply with all the state laws. Um that way if the state laws change it adjusts with them. That's right. Okay. Thank you.

But are we misleading people by saying um it just seems confusing when it says not to exceed 90 days per year. What doesn't exceed 90 days per year? I guess that and someone only use their property for 90 days out of a year as a B&B because that's what it sounds like. It does sound that way to me too. That's why I'm confused by it. I put a note to check put I've written per visitor and put a note to check the terminology in in update.

And also I think instead of saying meals, I think it's only allowed for one meal, right? Breakfast or something or are they allowed to have it for more than one meal? I don't I I'm worried that we're a little confusing here in our the way we've written it up and that we don't align with the state format. I don't know. How about if we recheck this and bring it back next time? How about if we do, you know, you can check on that and maybe we need to look at that because right now it is allowed in just about every residential area. So, we have to make sure that it's going to, you know,

uh, be something that we want in every single zone. And especially if you're going to be allowed up to, did you say 19 people? 19 people in these little cottages up there. There are certain That's huge. I That's be a lot of people and a lot of parking needs. So, anyway, if you wouldn't mind just readressing that. Um, I'm going to just put that as a big question mark. And it would be limited by the fire co that square footage and how many people you have. You have to have a pretty big house to be able to get to the 19 the 19. Yes. I don't know that four levels. Yeah. Yeah. That's And it says that you need a parking space uh provided for each guest room. That's if if you have 19 people be five that could be five rooms. I mean if you have bunk beds, you know,

right? Yes. I mean, would that even be would that accommodate everybody if there's going to be two people per room? C can you have more than one person per room, I guess, is my question. I don't know. As long as it's compliant with fire and safety code, and that's all in the state regulations. Yes. And I recently read them, but I can't promise you my memory is exact on those numbers, but it they're close to that. That's huge. So, do we do uh are we concerned at all that there could be a parking issue if there's you know two people per room allowed or whatever? That's I mean a lot of times when you go to a place they even if you are two people to a room you only get one parking spot

like so they're saying you got to have a parking spot per they wouldn't be approved if they didn't have required parking spots parking spots

and do we have anything that I understand they have to do something with the state registry um and then uh is there anything that They do they register here or how is it kind of supervised within the town? Because if I'm in a neighborhood narrow streets and it's hell already and then there's, you know, someone's having a B&B, how do we know what's actually occurring?

That's a very legitimate point. I will ask the question about whether BMBBS are part of the rental program that because they're like or if there's some kind of license for them. I'm not sure off the top of my head, but I'm going to make an we not incorporate it into the rental program. I mean it's is it our rental program or is it a So it's the town's rental program and I think we can ask but the rental program is run by the town's administration not by the plan you know it's not through zoning it's not

it's not through planning and zoning it's through the the town it's separate from the zing ordinance. So we'll ask about it and see um what their thinking is on that. And so if someone applies and they and they go through the state registry, does the town get notification? Um, by the way, you know, there's 10 properties in your town that are now going to be BMBBS. I mean, because I I just can see I've read about I'm sure there's wonderful stories, but I've also read horror stories for residents in small areas

where things could get a little bit out of control. when you have too many people in a small area, all kinds of things can happen. So, I was just wondering in like how does the town know cuz I just think so we should be keeping track of those things. Well, if you put it into the rental program, if we or whoever has the ability to do that into the rental program, then I would we'd have to be notified, right? I don't know who would do it. I don't believe that's true. Is it true if we don't know if the next door neighbor is being you know being rented out? A bed and breakfast requires a state license and when a state license is required that actually comes to the town treasurer for sign off. So,

okay,

that in order to have a a legal bed and breakfast, right, they would have I'm not sure if the state is saying, do you have zoning and use to get a use and occupancy from the county? You need a zoning permit from the town. If they somehow get the state license without all these things, which I don't think they can, it would still come to the treasurer. And when it comes to the treasurer, they usually flag me and say and and we are making that official that they would say this business license came in. Are there any zoning issues with it? We've had that happen recently, not with bed and breakfast, but other things. And would there be any such type of um system where that if there let's just say that there's a lot of complaints about one specific house let's say where the owner

Mhm. doesn't care really and it's sort of become like Animal House, you know, well, younger people might not know the movie, but in any event, um, is there is there like a it just seems that maybe there should be like um I don't know if it's a board or something, but if the neighbors have a lot of complaints, are there any remedies for them so that those issues can be addressed and mitigated? So, I think first the owner has to live on premises, right? Um, I think it sounds like you're concerned about noise and traffic and just

Yeah. the noise and sort of the disruption maybe of people's normal way of ingress and egress and what they're used to and you know that let's that being their primary, you know, residence or you know may somebody might work in a factory and have to do swing shift. Um there's just a lot of different things that I just don't want citizens who aren't making money from their house but use it as you know it's their you know the home is where the heart is but and it changes and and they they they are sort of deprived of their quiet use and enjoyment of their property and I'm just I just want to know

no one's guaranteed quiet though outside of quiet hours. No, but no, quiet, that's just a legal term, your quiet use and enjoyment of your property. And so, no, I understand about the quiet hours, but we all know that so many things are observed in the breach. And so I'm just wondering I just want to make sure that there's a tangible and observable program plan strategy

to deal with things that might go ary so that everyone understands if I don't um if if if I allow this to become too rowdy I could lose my right to do it or there should be something so that the homeowner because they might be impervious to noise they might be deaf I don't know, heart of hearing. Um, I just want to make sure that there's something for the actual homeowners in their neighborhood to have a voice if needed. If everything goes great, that's great, right? One would hope that, but I don't think that's the real world.

So, I think it's the other laws that aren't zoning laws that regulate that, like your your noise, your code compliance. um if if there's traffic problems, right? Because basically they're only required to have five parking spaces and they shouldn't be they should be communicating that with their guests. So if there becomes a problem where there's a lot of on street parking in an area where on street parking isn't available, then that again that's another enfor So there's enforcement issues that are the code is written this way. If things happen outside of the code, then enforcement gets involved. And so that's where the property owners have to call call and report these issues. So we don't there's many bed and breakfasts that aren't wild and crazy. And so preventing bed and breakfasts that are perfectly incompat perfectly compatible with the neighborhood because there might be one that's incompatible with the neighborhood. So you have to kind of balance that and let enforcement do its job. But isn't it our responsibility to attempt to anticipate,

which is why we have laws and rules and what have you, as to what could conceivably happen. I mean, I uh I think that if somebody's in a bed and breakfast and they're restricted in certain ways as to how many parking spots, how many people that there needs to be I don't want to say recourse necessarily, but they have a place where they can call and say this is a problem. I to me that's our job. You're not penalizing the other people if they're doing their thing and abiding and I don't know that's but that's what I think Sarah's saying that comes in through the enforcement of the other things. So the recourse is already you're going to call because there's a noise.

Who are you going to call the the town enforcement? Who would it be otherwise? Well, okay. But I'm just saying I mean how are you going to let citizens I mean I just think that if to me this is like a sea change for small neighborhoods and I just think that there then should be something on the town website that says you know B&B rules and regulations and if if if you are negatively affected or impacted here's where you call I just if there's an outreach so that somebody I just don't want this is on the website the town website but I'm talking about I'm talking about something separate all the time.

You have lots of little separate things and becomes burdensome that you can't some if if you only have one search term. Okay, so here's the next question. Maybe what you're really saying is we need to have more space between houses so that they're not bothered. Maybe maybe we should look at the zones and make sure that we are okay with what zones it's lo they're located in

because I think that we are okay with probably anything in any of the commercial zones of course and I'm thinking the RV2 I would think that they have larger lots. The RLD have a larger lots. The RMD has larger lots. The smallest lots I think are probably the RV1 the cottages. They're not going to get an approval without having the parking spots anyway. and they're going to have so but I mean the question is do we just prohibit it from that area and not have to worry about you dealing with I don't know what do you think

so two things first of all this is currently allowed this is this is what your rules currently are in your zoning code now so it if you if you don't have it happening now right it doesn't mean it's not going to happen but it's not going to suddenly happen because we're not actually changing anything Um, I think I'll tell you what is changing though. I'll tell you what could change is are these ADUs because from what I've been reading is that people are putting ADUs in the back to stay in because you're allowed to be the owner in the ADU and have your, you know, your whatever in the front.

That's not a bed and breakfast. So, I have had people come to me to try to get their ADUs registered as bed and breakfast and not really because I've been reading that you had they have been allowing that in Maryland in the state of Maryland. So, that's interesting. But in says under a common roof under a common roof and well I know but as when ADUs become but that's a so deal with this and then that

I understand I understand but I'm just I'm just suggesting could it change or evolve when people start having ADUs in the back? That's what I'm saying. And so what I would say there is that uh on item three is no separate kitchens are provided. An ADU is required to have a separate kitchen. So an ADU cannot be good and breakfast no matter okay. Um so that doesn't Okay, good. impact that.

All right. Well, so is everybody then so far okay with the way it is currently? um that theoretically in every in every zone it would be an SC or a C. I think uh so far everybody's been happy with the way the answers have been coming through. Okay. Anything else in the accommodations and group living? Any questions? I don't see any questions. Any Let's turn to the next one. Then we're going to be looking at institutional recreation on educational uses. Um, any questions, issues on this one? I know daycare center was a a question. What were we going to do about daycare centers? Were you gonna look that one up too, Miss Franklin? Or what do you what do you do?

Questions about that? What page is that? So, I had that would be Sorry. I think it was 25. Uh, they No, I'm sorry. That's not 25. It's 18. 1918 18. And And I apologize because we moved home daycarees underneath daycarees and I didn't move them in the text. So they're on like page 25 or something for you all. They should be on page they should be on page 19, I think. Home daycare. I know what we were talking about. Was it home daycare? Let me see. Where is that located? that is located on it's on page 25 but it should be on page 25 I'm sorry yeah it's been moved in my

go actually it's 27 on mine so if you want to go to 27 home daycare 27 um I was a little confused because as a business that provides licensed care to five or more and I thought that a home daycare went up to 12. Does anybody have any other ideas about it as far as what it really is? Remember 12. I think the state license is 12 for a home daycare. I think you had mentioned that the county is 12 or the county does say 12. I don't know what this I didn't look up the state actually. The county is up to 12. So I did look them up,

but I can certainly look at what the state is. Instead of saying five or more children, we can say whatever it is the state defines. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I think we need to be a little more clear about that. I'll write what I'll look at what the state says and put it in there. Perfect. So, um I'm going to make that another one that you might want to

take a look at and be more specific on. Um and did Oh, did we Okay. Now, the other thing that uh Cal County has, the county has is about the on-site drop off site that you provide if you're um a daycare provider. Um so, in other words, instead of dropping a kid off in the street, let's just say you've got an employee, the employee parks in the driveway. So, where are you going to pull off unless you have a designated drop off site? Well, could couldn't the um couldn't the employee in the employer be at the end of the driveway and you know wait for the children and usher them in? I mean, is it

um you know, I think it depends on your your length of driveway. Well, that's true. But um all it is is basically saying is you have to have uh a parking space for the employee. But my concern is the safety of dropping a kid off in the street, especially if you're in a narrow street situation where people are zooming around you trying to get to work in the morning. I just want to make sure that we have a safe spot to drop them off at. And I know Calbertt does have a stipulation about that. Do we want to have a stipulation about that? I I would like it myself.

There's a stipulation here. All such uses shall be located so as to permit the safe pickup and delivery of all persons on the site. Are you reading from the table? It's actually reading number two. It's number two. But is that clear enough to really say that it has to be an on-site pickup location pickup area? I mean, it does say you're supposed to pick up and drop off on site. It does say that. But does that is that clear enough written that we understand that that's a drop off zone? I don't know.

How would you decide if you didn't do that? In other words, dropping off and picking up at the site at the end of the driveway. What on earth would you do? What would you say? because you're on a residential right street. Well, yes. I'm just trying to picture it as to what

Well, I mean, what they do, like on my little street is that they cut into some of their uh front yard area to give yourself a drop off zone so that you're not out in the street dropping a person off, you know, or not, you know, trying to squish into the into the driveway and only being partially on. You want to make sure the kid doesn't run out in the street and around and you know, you want to make sure the kid is safely into the into the daycare area. Um, but is that written clearly enough to make it sound as though we need to have a drop off zone or do we need to have it spec specify that we need an on-site drop off and pickup zone? I don't know.

I think it's clear enough because I think then becomes more confusing to say what's a zone? How do we define a zone? Like that seems like a Right. I I agree with that. Okay. I think I think it's okay. Okay. All right. Good. Perfect. Okay. Then the only thing that you have to figure out is if we want to add a number in there or whatever, however you want to phrase that. And otherwise uh if everybody looks uh at the institutional recreation on educational uses and sees that it's okay as far as you're concerned, we will move on to the next use which is the um I guess you would call it the unnamed use because we have

the blank use the okay it's the water oriented recreation game and wildlife preserves nature preserves They live under institutional. I'm sorry. If you want, we can move them under something else, but they were under institutional. Oh, it's just the way that that it's just the page is divided that way. Okay. Got it. Okay. Got it. Okay. No, it's fine. So, does anybody have any questions about those uses in those zones?

I don't see anybody have any questions about that. Then we go on to office and commercial uses. We have um Oh, this is the one where I think under retail and personal I think you switched them back. Do you take a look at neighborhood retail the RV and personal services? I think you meant to flip it so that um confused. Okay. So, take a look at neighborhood retail. The RV1 should be NP and the RV2 should be C. And under personal services, it's supposed to be

same thing. The same thing. NP under RV1 and C under RB2. So just flip it. Yes. What is Can you say it again one more time? So, under under uh medical clinics and neighbor neighborhood retail, was that it? No, neighborhood retail. Yeah, neighborhood retail. You flipped the um RV1 and RV2. Oh, okay. Wait a minute. So, RV1 should be NP and RV2 should be C. Okay. Personal services should be same as well.

Slept as well. Okay, I gotcha. Okay, great. Thank you. And also, I know this is further down, but Carnival or Similar Transient Enterprise was also needed to be flipped. I'm sorry, say that again. The other one that needed to be flipped was Carnival or Similar Transient Enterprise, which is towards the end of the I'm just that for you now that that needed to be flipped from our use intensity, okay, was opposite.

Okay. Um now did we Okay. When it go when we go back to home occupation minor and major. Um it looks as though uh we're approving both minor and major for every zone. So do we do we even right so right or no? I didn't think we originally were going to have RV1 have the major, but then uh you know I'm I'm looking at I'm going well maybe what I have it stricken from the RH but we removed the RHD. I think when we removed the RHD things got confused but it should not be in the RV1

or what should not be the home occupation major major home occupation should not be in RV1. So that's an that's a NP in that zone. Okay. Um Okay. What about offices? Where what was that supposed to be? C or NP? Offices. Yeah. In RB1 is supposed to be Oh, NP. NP RB1. Okay,

that makes more sense. Okay. Okay. So, if everybody's noted, we've changed the home occupation major in RV1, the offices in RV1, the neighborhood retail in RV1 and in RV2, and then personal services RV1 and RV2. And um now there are some discrepancies when you go and read uh what you have in here as to what is here. There's some discrepancies as to what

what's permitted and what Yeah. That needs to be cleaned up. So we need to clean that up. So if we can get this straightened out, you can go back and we can once Yeah. Once it's straightened out, I'm going to you can figure that out. Cross reference everything. Yes. Excellent. Um there was one other thing. Um, okay. Maybe it's not on this page. All right, everybody. Then if everybody's okay with this, let's go ahead and turn to the next page, which is general use, general services, etc. General services is on page 32. Let me see.

32. Yeah, general services is a little confusing here because the way I'm seeing general services on page 32 if you want to access that. Um

I you know you have under general services or we did or whoever that you music and art studio um would be considered general services and I really think we should be allowing that in like RV2 at least um maybe even NC of course now NC doesn't have any residential I guess it's permanent in it would the RB2 I was looking at actually and maybe even the RLD and the RMD. why you can't have music lessons in your house or even ballet lessons or I don't know what does everybody think about that for general services if I can just so there's a I think there's two or three pieces right should music or art studio be under personal services so more zones and also

is a music studio in your house where you're teaching one person at a time a home occupation rather than a personal service. The number you're you probably the number of students at any given time would make the difference. I would imagine that would that would probably be it. Okay. So, personal services then do we want to add things to the personal service list or what do you how do you want to change that? I mean, I think that's the question for you guys. You think music or art studio should go in personal services which is those are lower impact

right whereas general was a higher impact. So which which zone should it be in? All the personal services are allowed in general services. So it's that's really the question for you guys.

Okay. So let's talk about um go back to page 31 personal services and let's talk about what we want in personal services. Um because we just con we just went over personal services and uh um yeah we have it conditional in the RV too. As far as I'm concerned and I don't want your I want your ideas on this. I think um music uh teaching at least for one to two students max I think could go under personal services like a brother and sister or something. I can easily see you having one card dropping off both kids brothers

dropping them off getting their music lessons and having a personal service. I don't know would that be per hour like if someone teaches per hour I mean but it's one car drop off pip you know it's not you don't have six cars just sitting there waiting you know for the kid and honking for Johnny to come out. So um sorry if uh just the condition for the personal services is that it's basically that it's in Horizons.

Sorry the condition for the personal services is basically that it's located in a in hor something like Horizons where it's a pre-existing mixeduse area. So the question isn't really do you want to permit it in a house. It's a question is do you want to permit it in one of those? It's not going to be permitted in a house because a house isn't a mixeduse unless But what if you have it in the RV2? You could have it certainly in the RV2. Um, and if you put permit in the RV2 without a condition.

Well, certainly I'm not sure about dry cleaning, but I could see any of these others being in the RV2 for sure. I could even see them in the LMD or even the M anything with a larger lot, um, more parking area. I can see any of these personal services myself, but I mean, I'm the only one talking here, but I I just, um, yes. Well, recreational fitness studio is in personal services, and that's not that much different than a dance. Well, again, I think it's the quantity of people you have,

right? But but a fitness studio generally is unless you define it to me that's you know a small gym you because it's under personal services then fitness studio becomes services to an individual that I think it's a matter

what we decided to do last time was allow personal services but then make the condition that they're in a pre-existing mixeduse building and if you look at the permitted use table, they're only permitted, the only residential zone they're permitted in is the RV2 zone with that condition. So, they're only going to they're not going to exist in people's houses unless we change the land use table. So, that's sort of the question you're circling back to is do we want to allow these uses as something larger than a home occupation? Because that's these could all be home occupations.

That's what Yeah. So like if you're just doing if you're a personal trainer and you have a home gym and you're just one person is coming in at a time, you can call it a home occupation and we don't have to like think about this recreational studio how that fits in and it is a major home occupation because someone is coming site. So some things are going to be like just they could Yeah. Like they could go you could either one or the other. Okay. But you could get your permit if that was, you know, for lots of these things under occupations. Yeah.

Okay. So, um All right. Going. Okay. So, great. So, right now it looks pretty good. Okay. Let's go. So, general services and does anybody have any questions about general services or are you okay with the fact they're not permitted anywhere but the TUCPCMC? That makes sense to me. Okay. And then we have, of course, the contractor shop, restaurants, tasting rooms, taverns, nightclubs. This is all on the chart underneath. Only place that's allowed is in the marine.

Right. Now, I mean, the the tasty room could possibly go into like the PC or some other Well, even that it could be in like, but if it was in TC and you had the parking cuz like there's all sorts of other requirements then when you come into a retail space when you go further in it that like that's right. So, I feel like you could have a tasting room if it had the parking and that could be in town commercial because where the the Chinese restaurant is and the the kettle corn, if let's say they sold that building and someone decided to make it a tasting room, that'd be right. Yeah. I mean, they parking. Wow.

What an idea. Yeah, I know. And so, yeah. Yeah. You want to permit it in the I think so. NC, TC, and PC as well. Is that anywhere? They're very limited in impact, I think, except for parking. I think you're right. Wherever you said that um a restaurant is being permitted a tasting room to be similar. This is sim it's a similar thing. That is that is a good point because the NC district should be permitting some restaurants currently and it's not because it has restaurants in it. Um

okay and the NC and hold on the TC is permitting. So the NC currently has like Bidos in it. Um and so that I think is a class one restaurant. He's still there, isn't it? Papa John's now. Well, the Leto's. I think she means over there by like across the fire. By the firehouse. By the firehouse. That's where the Leto is. Oh, that Leos. Okay. That's the NC versus the TC. Where does a like a coffee shop fit in? There's a restaurant. It's a class one restaurant. One. Somebody better.

Let me explain the the classes of That's okay. actually looking at my um because I changed your classes of restaurants and I shared that last time but some people missed that which is that your classes of restaurants used to go from like your most intense was a class one and your least intense was a class three and that just didn't logically fit for me. So I switched year one and year three. So your one is your like your coffee shop or your anywhere where you're not sitting down where you're kind of coming in and picking up. You might have a few seats. Your class two has let me actually pull up the stupid

definitions. Um sorry. Okay. Okay. So, your class one is includes fast food restaurants and is this sort of this pick up and go. Class two is where there's a lot of carry out, but there's also some um sitdown area kind of like the um the little tea shop that's over there. And then a class 3 is your sort of full-on restaurant like Baya. So, yeah. Why is that currently not permitted in TC? That feels like that's wrong.

Agreed. If you This is kind of what's there. So, what do you want to change? I think we should permitted class three should be where they're supposed to be. Yeah. Okay. So, everybody um if everybody's okay, class three indeed. Instead of NP, it looks like we had it P before. Go ahead and change that to P. Yeah, because I flipped them because I flipped two is allowed. So, three. Yeah. Right. There you go. There you go. Perfect. So, and then do we feel good about saying that tasting room should be allowed in? Yeah. EC.

EC. Yeah. Yeah. And do you agree? Wait a minute. Uh I thought we were uh changing that. See? Well, at least we're going to go P from NCTCP, right? No, that's right. Not neighborhood. Oh, you think neighborhood commercial? Well, I thought we were thinking neighborhood, too. No, not neighborhood commercial. Commercial. Seems like that would be okay if we had parking. I mean, there usually is less parking in the neighborhood. Absolutely. There is. That's my That's your neighbor. My block. That's your block. That's our parking. Yep. But I am just when you look into the zoning to be able to have any kind of retail space,

you have to have a certain number of parking spots per two or 300 square feet of space. And it depends on what type of space it's going to be. So like you wouldn't if you're retail, they would have to have on premise parking to be able to have it in that neighborhood. So we could say yes, but probably there aren't a lot of options. gas station, you know that where the sitco was that if somebody someone could make that a small beer brewery or they could do something where there is some part I'm just thinking so or like where I mean

my house has the parking behind it. Yeah, you could you could charge. Well, she used to have a I mean that was it was a store and when and like where the where you had the other place. Makes sense. Um like when it was Bay Hill Market. Yes. So if that went back into like a light restaurant. Yeah. Yeah. Be a small place. It could be an option then if you made it there permitted NC. So, is everybody okay with P in the NC TCP for tasting rooms? Sure. Class 3 restaurant. Okay. But so, wait one second. So, you were in NC? Yes.

That area that we were just talking about currently would not allow a type one restaurant, I think. Didn't you say you flipped? So, yeah, but no. Did I flip it already? Cuz like if that's NC, it says not permitted for one. And so do you want it? There were no restaurants permitted in the NC even though there's restaurants in the NC because they were grandfathered most likely.

Yeah. I guess I feel like there that it's worth do we think they are currently there and they're being grandfathered but if there were other spaces that could jump through those other hoops in NC should they per be permitted to have something like a coffee shop? Do you mean like um in NC can you name what what restaurant is that? Like Baya or I'm a little This is where I name my over my little plastic. It's called Letos. just I think but I guess I was also thinking about though where you were just saying like if that sitco got switched in an NC and like there are spaces where that uh hair salon tangled

that area that was a sitco no right next to right next to gas station was a gas station yeah I just didn't Yeah I remember the gentleman who ran it I just didn't think it was a sitco so maybe it was maybe was it so when Class three be possible in a situation like that? So the class three is the sitdown restaurant. Oh, I mean I'm sorry. You were talking about the class one talking about class one. So it was a coffee shop kind of a to- go market. Yes. Um those spaces seem potentially that seems like a viable spot for them if they Yeah.

had the other things. So I to me I think NC should permit class one restaurants. Plus plus one, right? Plus one. Yeah. But okay. But the parking requirement is gonna undo anybody's and that is what when you apply for your permit that you're told how many parking spots you need to have. Okay. Any commercial development that is not a rehabilitation of an existing commercial use has to come before the planning commission and we check all of the regulations. Right. never.

Okay. So, are we good on all of those now? I think we've really opened that whole area up. I think it's great.

Yeah. Okay. Let's turn the page. Let's move it up. Indoor entertainment and recreation. So, if you look uh down below, it tells you what it is above. So, indoor entertainment would be um not permitted and anything but the TCP PCMC and that would be it. trying to think of any indoor entertainment that we could put up in the NC uh like a billiard's club or a

I mean could you have a like a a little guitar player in a you know in a tasting room let's just say would that be considered indoor entertainment in a tasting room? No.

No. So indoor entertainment is a facility operated as business providing active or passive recreational entertainment or athletic activities entirely within an enclosed building. It include facilities for organized sports instruments and leisure activities. Noise and visual impacts must be contained within the structure and it does not include a bar, restaurant or nightclub. It's like indoor uh doesn't even play raetball anymore like or a escape room or a uh escape room is a good example. Laser tag or that kind of thing. Yeah. Okay.

But just had like that. I mean those are really big facilities but they've recently had a bunch of stuff open up kind of in that and the old Jo-Ann fabric I think is that one. Yeah. Yeah. It's very popular, too. I like it. Okay. Um, if nobody has any any issues with that, we're going to leave it uh and then move down to outdoor entertainment and recreation. And I guess my question is in the RC, could we not have some outdoor recreation entertainment recreation in the RC? And I think that should be I don't know. That's my opinion. But instead of an MP, it could be a uh what would you want to make that?

So outdoor entertainment um is a facility operated as business providing recreation or amusement activities conducted and open or partially enclosed structures. Um so again same conditions excuse me as the um indoor with noise and alcohol. You want to make it SC or S E? Um I would stick So um I would stick with an S E because there's conditions that are going to apply anyway. But that's that larger conversation about SE versus

anybody have any issues with that being SE in the RC, the outdoor entertainment and recreation. So it would be SE in the TC, PC, MC and RC all commercial zones ex except resource conservation. All right. Then we have animal care establishment. It's um uh just allowed in the commercial zones. Um then we have the alcohol sales in the can cannabis business. We're going to review cannabis in a second here, but uh that looks pretty standard to me, I guess. Any questions about that right now as far as cannabis business and the SCSC? Now, why are alcohol sales not allowed in the TC or NC if there's a little tiny market or something or there's a little I mean, if if they decide to change and say, "Oh, all of a sudden you can have whatever." My interpretation of the cannabis regulations, and we can check this with the attorney, is that the regulations that apply to alcohol sales also have to apply to cannabis businesses. So, the more businesses that you and we can double check that because that is my interpretation and I am not a lawyer. Um, but I think wherever you allow alcohol sales, you have to allow cannabis businesses and that's actually why I put alcohol sales into your zoning code and they weren't there before. Um, so Rollins is going to have cannabis sales.

Probably not. But are they too close? Are they too close to the school? Yeah, they said therefore there'll be no sales.

Um, that is a good point. Uh, Roland's is not too close to the school, I don't think. Um, so they they could have cannabis sales. Now, I think there's only two licenses for all of Calbert County that were issued this year. So, some of that sort of factors in. That doesn't mean you won't have someone's, but you could limit them only to the MC, but then you're also, I believe, backing up your alcohol sales. And if you want to potentially, if you guys want to explore it, I can ask to consult with the attorney on it. Um,

do we uh have her consult with the attorney on it, or are you guys okay with the way it is right now? I'm okay. I'm okay with this. Everybody's okay. Okay, then we'll leave it as is. Uh, now on Commissioner Hans's behalf, I'm going to pursue the next one, which is craft, artist, and assembly and manufacturing because she does do beautiful jewelry work in her house, and I have to say that openly. Oh, okay. Commissioner Hano. Yes. Yes. Yes.

But it would not be permitted in this type of uh, you know, light industrial. So, I was I was talking to um um our planner about maybe making a second level of of creativity type manufacturing. Make it a crafting type manufacturing that you can do at home. But I guess you would still consider that a home occupation, wouldn't you? So, what Commissioner Han is doing would be considered a home occupation. That would be considered a home occupation. She's running if she's running it as a business, right? Okay. Okay. Okay. She's doing it for enjoyment, then it's

pretty much that. Yes, indeed. So, you don't think we then have to divide that up and to make it we could divide it up because right now it's only permitted in the MC and you probably have some people who are doing some, you know, just regular like craft woodworking. Maybe they're doing some carving. Maybe they're, I don't know, building stools or aderond chairs or something in their yard. But there maybe their shop workshop is bigger than that 40 or 30%. So they can't be a home occupation. Mhm.

But you know I think it's this question of do you want to encourage the ability for people to use their homes to make beautiful things, right? And and make economic sense of their out of their homes. Um, and you could put a major and a minor category there. So, where you're using a lot of things that produce odors, right? You know, an aderondic chair, you're just gluing stuff or drilling stuff together, right? So, you are making noise. You have to follow noise regulations, but you're not necessarily using a lot of smelly glues and epoxies and that kind of thing. That is usually why you want to keep it in industrial use separate. So I think maybe there's possibility to separate this into two categories depending on what you guys want to do.

All right. What is everybody's desire on this one? What do you think? It gets a little complicated. I'm not sure that we want to introduce too much of the way in way of loud noises or bad smells or chemicals into the community into the residential communities. Well, saying no noxious byproducts. So, the smells aren't a thing. It won't just be the sound. And I can say that that can be disruptive because the sound. Yeah. Of a drill and a sander and an electric saw that goes on for hours. My dogs go crazy. Yeah. Come to me in for sure. Your dog. Yeah. My dog would be Kirby. Yeah, Kirby.

Okay, then let's move on to automotive service. Um, we have it in the TC. Uh, that would be probably the best place for it is TC. Okay, Marina. Oh, by the do have one question.

Yes. um in terms of um and Sarah I had a question that under and I guess it's in the um in the actual written material not just the chart but that in the um storage is allowed for automative services but not for the craft artisan manufacturing and I'm not quite sure I I understand why because automotive service I I If someone's storing boards or paints or whatever, it's it can't it's can't be more noxious than what might be stored for automat automative.

I can't say why because that's how it currently exists. But there's I I think that both. So say exactly what you mean again. Right. From Well, storage is allowed under I have to find the page. Storage of cars. Well, no, no, no. Let me just um storage. Well, can you tell me? Hold on one second. I'll get to it here. Automotive services. So, under automotive services um so it's that you I have to figure out where I I did not put the page and I apologize.

Bulk storage of flammable liquid shall be underground. No, that I understand, but I was thinking about and maybe it's inoperative vehicles shall be completely screened from view. Um um and maybe I was on the wrong page. Let me just see. Fuel pumps. An area enclosed by a wall or fence screen from view of adjoining properties and rights of way shall be established whenever outside storage is required. Let me see. Oh, made. So whenever outside storage is required implies that outside storage is permitted on page 40 are you talking about? Oh here here under craft artisan assembly it says outdoor storage is prohibited

and I wasn't I just didn't understand why it's prohibited in one and not in the other. That's my question. I I can't say no no I get it. And I think that I don't think rhetorical. Yeah, I agree. I mean, as long as it's it's it's stored in a way that is not unsightly or creates a hazard with a fire or anything else. I don't know what anyone else thinks about that, but I would just want someone who's doing artisan craft assembly. I just don't I don't

we applied the an area enclosed by wall or fence screened from view of adjoining properties and rights of way shall be established whenever storage is required and bulk storage of flammable liquids shall be underground to the craft artisan that would feel more equitable to you. Sorry. So adding oh adding this oh to your uh which which oh these things right here. Yeah. Yeah. As long as long as something's if it's equitable so and reasonable relation that would

that would be out and then those Yeah. If you had the same requirements Mhm. And I'm not sure underground is the right no solution. I think it's I think it's you know in a appropriate you know need to work out the language but fire safety right but I just think there should be something in there so that you know if there if they've got some pallets that they they're going to take apart let's say or something um they should be able you they should have some leeway

I think that's what your proposal is to add those two things to craft artisan manufacturing and okay I'm I'm a little bit confused on what you want to do here now what do you want to do I think we were saying that um help me out because if you look in automotive services yes and you look at number seven which is page 40 page 40 and you apply number seven to Yeah right because it talks about outdoor storage and it talks about an area enclosed by a wall or fence re from view and we're applying that to the craft artisan assembly manufacturing instead of the outdoor storage is prohibited right

it's allowed but it has to be screened I think that's right so yeah I'm fine so you just want to add Yeah because it's because it's and take out and take out that that outdoor storage is prohibited yes all right so we'll okay so on page 39 we'll omit outdoor storage is prohibited And we will instead include uh seven

seven on page 40 which is an um an area enclosed by a wall or fence screened from view or adjoining properties and rights of way shall be established whenever outdoor storage is required. So we'll include that under the craft section. Okay, that's great. Thank you. Thank you. Uh do you have that one down? Do you have that? Okay. Okay. I did. Okay. Oh, thank you. I'm glad we done with that. Okay. And then of course we've got Marina down below. Anybody have any questions about that whole issue? Uh now that we're done there with that. Okay, good.

I'm okay with that. On the next page, we've got um uh aquaculture, seafood, data center, vice manufacturing, marine storage, utilities, commercial solar energy systems, bus transit station, you know, this bus transit station. I know we don't have a station, but you know these poor people uh who wait for this little bus right next to our library, right? Really angers me. There's not no nothing for them to stand. I've said that for years. You know how some people have something for kids

to stand under in bed while they're waiting for needs to huh little something. But anyway, I think if it wasn't for the fact you have the word station in there, if you could just put bus transit stop, I guess you said bus transit without any

Okay, I think we should eliminate the the thing station and we should include it at any one of the commercial zones for sure. Uh because we definitely I mean that isn't really one of Well, it is the commercial zone. It really right there at the edge. So, I don't know. But I think we need to talk to the town council and ask him to put a little leanto there or something to to um protect those people from that the weather elements. The elements. Exactly. Also designate for people who don't know where a pickup is. It would designate for the people that might use it but don't know where the hell it

Yes. I think we need to bring that to the attention of the town council. I'm just surprised it hasn't happened yet, but it would be one of my things I would want to do. So, if you take the bus transit and make it uh P under NCTCPMC, right? When you say bus transit, I don't know what that means. Yeah. Like station, I understand what a bus or a transit station or depot or something like that. There's a space, but if you just like stop should be out of there. Stuck. Gotcha. And then make it P and all those and which and could you under NC NC

the commercial zones in my opinion NCTC PCMC except the RC that's not a commercial zone right okay and make that a P okay please can we go back up to the data center that's okay let's go back up to the data center I was afraid there was going to be one of you wanted to bring that up. Go ahead. I'm just curious to know as as far as uh it's already in your code. I just provided a definition.

That doesn't mean you guys can't discuss it and change it. It just means I I would recommend that you consider conditions that require the data center to provide solar energy. Yeah. and that you require the data center to have um a enclosed water system so there's not water loss. There's probably other things um

that should be that I believe should be conditions for data centers. However, all I did here was provide a definition because you previously allowed them without any of that. Um, and so I think there are are they a special exception use or are they just permitted? No, you have P under MC. Yeah. So that's how you guys have it now. A strange place. And so I definitely recommend that you consider uh directing me to provide some conditions. Okay, let's direct uh Miss Franklin to provide conditions for data centers that would include at least what you said and possibly more

and something about sound because from what I understand that's wreaking havoc with people's uh nervous systems and sleep ability. last night's news. Pardon me. That was literally last night's news. The noise I It's inconceivable and and putting it in the Marine District seems crazy. Why do we have to permit it? That ruins your whole like tourism kind of vibe. I mean, I mean, you don't have to permit data centers. NP. Yes. You just said NP. Here, I'll do a better NP. Yeah. Go ahead and change it to the NP on the data center and let's not have to um go to

doesn't belong anywhere. Let's go ahead and uh put that as an NP till we hear otherwise. Um utilities I guess we're good with and garage sales. Okay. Now down there we've got the C and we understand why the C because we don't want permanent garage sales going on. But we also want to want to add the temporary uses such as lemonade stands etc. from what I understand. So, well, how would you want to word the lemonade lemonade stand? Yeah. So, um So, you got to go get permits to have your lemonade stand. Girl Scout could be out at the Girl Scout cookies. Uh yeah, there you go. Right. So, um

I forget permitted allowed sometimes when I see it. I think you you're saying you required a permit. Okay, good. I'm with you. I'm back with you. I was like, "Guys, so one of

one of the council members said, "What happens if someone wants to have a lemonade stand and they ask you first, right?" And the answer is you can't have a lemonade stand, right? Um, and this was on the news like a bunch, I don't know, it feels like a couple years ago, but maybe it was longer than that. Um, a lemonade stand technically is serving beverages, so it should comply with county laws regarding beverage serving. So, I will I will say that. Um, but we can provide a temporary sales category that would like allow kids. I I think wi with regard to beverages, we should say that the beverages have to be served by a minor, non-alcoholic beverages served by a minor because you don't want like an adult to pay their mortgage with lemonade stand with vodka in it.

Yeah. Right.

Right. So, I think we we just need to word that kind of carefully. But I think for temporary sales, you can allow like if you grew extra zucchini in your yard, right? And you wanted to stick that out and put money in the box kind of thing. Um sometimes kids want to sell their Girl Scout cookies and instead of going door to door, they could set up in their yard, right? Um or they one of them makes friendship bracelets and wants to sell that kind of thing. that's not really a home occupation because they're just doing it for a limited period of time. And adults may do the same thing, right? If they have a lot of produce. So, we can add a temporary sales category. I can bring that back to you guys if you are in support of that. But

yeah, I think we all are in support of that. We are a small town. We definitely want that. It's just adorable part of it. And they're nasty tasting most of them. The lemonade. My kids are so moa. Don't pick the daisies. Don't make me be the bad guy to the No, no. Okay. On the last page is carnival or similar transient enterprise and building incidental to construction. Um, so we have a conditional in the RV1, the carnival and the RV1 because why?

I believe you two right here said you love carnivals though. Which two? I believe it is because the school is located. So, well, so it says that it must be conducted by a registered nonprofit organization, place of worship, volunteer, fire department, or school located within the town. Um, so if one of those places found a willing house in the RV1 with enough space to set up a carnival, I suppose they could, but that feels unlikely. They would just do it on site or off. Excellent. Okay. And then the building incidental to construction, I think.

I don't know. Oh, that was pre-existing there. What does it um mean?

Yeah. What does it really mean? Like if you're, you know, building a house, right? There's a trailer or something on there. need to put really a trailer or if you're going to set up like I'm not sure why you're setting up a temporary building, but maybe you are when you're developing something commercial. Um maybe you have a lot to store so it's worth a building rather than a trailer. I don't know. I assume this is here because it was something that was needed right at some point when these areas were developing.

Okay. Right. Okay. Um so it looks like so far we're good with the map sort of we're good with that. We're good with most of this and we need a few changes but you know what they are. Um the next thing we want to do is we want to go now to the Madam Chair if I could just go back to one more thing. Right underneath the data center there's biio manufacturing that also has um is that like and stuff? What is biio manufacturing? Yes. Yeah. I I'd recommend that being an MP if if uh what is well if you look in the if you look at it's developing COVID all over right

testing manufacturing compounding processing assembling packaging or treatment of chemical biological and pharmaceutical project products and it's allowed in the MC marine no that's crazyed That was under data. Yeah. Yeah. You You're currently allowing it. That's why it's in there. So, I'm just trying to figure out if there's anything with oysters or anything with the aquaculture. Aqua. Yeah. I'm just wondering if there's anything there that they were using that for. I can't Why else would we have that here? Where would Oh, aquaculture has its own

on page 42. Oh, yeah. I don't I Next page. Well, would that include like a compounding pharmacy? Oh, you mean like if uh you know like like the old more like oldfashioned pharmacy. It's like and they have some of those and some and like we did have a compounding pharmacy right down here below the old library. That's right. I don't know what happened to them but pharmacy where they manufacture. Yeah. Well, they compound and they don't manufacture the said that's why I was like a compounding pharmacy. Are they still there?

Well, Eden Pharmacy is right now like something that has recently come into it. Eden Pharmacy is there. Which one? Pharmacy. Founding pharmacy. It's still there then? Well, I was I went there like a month ago, but I can't. It's um with old library used to be next to the um shop underneath the library. The old library, but I don't we I don't know if they're there right this minute, but like it has been that's why it's in your zoning ordinance and permitted in the MC. Okay. like an SE you know exemption or is that something I I would ask what everyone's recommendation for that thing biological

I just defined it so what I did was I defined things that you so certainly the definition could be changed to only allow compounding and not but one of the things that I found when I researched that definition was that you wanted to be clear about um biosafety levels and

what they're requiring. So I think we could certainly say a facility primarily engaged in compounding process or compounding assembly packaging of pharmaceutical products right like we can adjust the definition so it includes less stuff but because I didn't know why it was in there I just created a definition a compounding and I really like uh as all of those are being at compoundies like those are right that's the kind of place that I definitely get on board with that just like right there

okay anything else you want to go over about this that we didn't talk about or we didn't bring up I think you've got

I think I mean I just want to explain a little why solar energy systems is in there is just because the state requires us to have these regulations in place. I used an ordinance that I've written already that highlights everything the state requires to be in that ordinance and it is exactly to state standards. Nothing more, nothing less. Um, I put it in here instead of making us hackle it separately because we are trying to get back to coastal resiliency and we just need to do what the state wants us to do here with that. So, okay. I'm sure no one has a question.

All right. The other thing that you want us to make sure that we do tonight, so I want to make sure we do that next before we go back to the beginning and start, you know, fresh with this. We want to go through the cannabis and solar energy systems. um section which are somewhat new to us. And so that would be um if you go to page um make sure that we page 44, we're going to look at solar energy systems first. So go to page 44. Is what you're saying like this is just state regulation and we don't really have any control of it and so like maybe we don't want to

for solar energy specifically. There's really not a lot you can change here. Um the what I've drafted is kind of the the maximum you can require. If you want to be more permissive for solar energy systems, then we should have a conversation about it. But if you want to just do what the state says, then we can do this. If you think you want to be more permissive, it may make sense for me to take it back out and for us to bring it up. But let's get a little more into coastal resiliency first before we do. I just have one question about this. So, is this meaning that it's like a solar energy like form with a whole lot of those panels? Yes.

Okay. In the marine section. Well, no. Um, isn't that what it It does say that. Okay.

Yes. So, that the state there's state preeemption on this. So really frankly it it what it it doesn't necessarily matter if we permit it or don't permit it anywhere right we could keep it out of the land use table put it in separately because if if solar energy farm comes in in a certain place the state can determine that that solar energy system is going to overrule whatever we have established And usually that's happening with agricultural uses. Um, so

I'm not sure what you're saying. I'm not getting this. The location they can they can change the location from a place where we don't want it. Yes. Okay. Now, Jen, you understand that? I understand that clearly. Yes. Okay. Question, wasn't it? Yes. Okay.

Yeah. So, we could take this out of this section out of the land use table, right? and and put it in its own ordinance and just adopt it separately and make it part of the it would kind of just go at the back of the zoning ordinance or wherever we have space reserved for it. Um, but these are the rules that they have around solar energy systems because they they realize towns are going to be resistant, but they're saying the need for solar energy trumps towns desire to have it. Yes. So, that was a it was a court case.

I sort of get that. It's the marine again. It's the marine. Why not put it in space? Well, if they wanted to put it somewhere else, they would is what I think Sarah's saying, right? Yeah. So, like we could say it's permitted in all of them because of the state or not. I think we should say we could just take it out of the table, right, and take it out of this category and put it elsewhere. I was just trying to get us get it done. Um, I could make it prohibited everywhere and then they'll do what they do, but we've at least evidenced what we feel. I mean, so you can't make it prohibited. Oh, here is that wood.

You can't It has to be E permitted. It can't be a special condition. It can't be a special exception. It can't be any of that. It has to be E permitted. Though the reason I put it in the marine was just to say like, hey, we're permitting it in the marine. So, if you want to do it, that's where you got to do it. Otherwise, you can't do it. Um, I could see Rod and Real putting up solar panels on their top of their roof on the uh on the parking area very easily. Yes. And they might generate because this is a commercial generating system, right? They're not going to share. Oh, and but I think they wouldn't share that. Well, they could do that now.

They wouldn't have enough to share, right? They they could easily do that. They do that in the West all the time. But does that not then kind of add to the height? Don't we have some? Does that like super supersede? It's going to be like the roof over a car. So, it actually wouldn't be a big Oh, it wouldn't be a big It wouldn't be a big No, no, it's just a pole with a solar panel on top and you park underneath it. It's kind of like the roof. So, it's not a big deal.

And that wouldn't be a commercial solar energy system. So, they would just be that's just energy use right now. Anyone who comes in with solar panels is getting approved for their solar panels because they're just they're like your HVAC system. you know, they're coming in for this permit so they can get a permit from the county, but there's no regulations regarding where you can put your solar panels. So, if they wanted to put solar panels to power part of the hotel, that wouldn't be subject to these requirements. Frankly, there's nowhere to put solar energy systems in the town of Chesig Beach, but the state is requiring us to have these regulations. The critical area, remember, asked us to put these regulations in the critical area zone because of all the state preeemption, because of all the KO court cases. If preeemption happens in a zone that it's not permitted in in Chesapeake Beach, at least you have protections in your code. And that's really what it is. We don't expect this to happen, but we want you to have protection if it does.

Did you just say that the critical area, the resiliency, the coastal resiliency? No, critical. You said something about they wanted it to be in the so the critical area. I remember we had said something about we had taken out their solar regulations and they said please put these back in because what they're doing is they're protecting you from largecale solar should it come in. So, so say I don't want say a large scale solar wanted to come in somewhere in a zone where we have space for it but we don't permit it and we told them no because we would and then it turned into another court case like the one in Washington County and we lost that court case. At least we have all these protections, right? Um,

but how is it a protection if they because of how they would have to build? No, I get that. But yes, if it's in an area, I understand that it's it's it's limitations on what they can do. But so in other words, they get to be a they can be a bully potentially and say, "I'm here." And then we can just say here here is what the confining details

if the state approves them to be there. So, the state is going to say, "Okay, well, you are permitted to be in this area, but you're not permitted to be where you're asking to be." And I don't I I don't I can't say what's going to happen. Like I I mean I hate to say that but with solar energy what the the case in Washington County was that the state's goal to develop this solar energy is more important or trumps the local goal of agricultural preservation I think in that case and so the state developed these regulations around this

in the Washington County case and so then the state developed this set of regulations with regard to solar and has required jurisdictions to adopt it. Now I think you really only come into this if you annex somewhere most likely that but I don't I'm just trying to think of like what farm you would annex. I think this is fairly irrelevant unless

something unless something happens where there's another court case that is going to preempt your ability to restrict it in zoning which right now it you are allowed to restrict it per state law because there's so much state preeemption around everything I think it's best to have these regulations in place Um because if you don't then No, I get that. But can we put it in another I mean which zone do you want to put it in?

Well, of course none, but I mean it seems like I mean when I drive um to Charles County on route I guess it's five. Um in Hughesville there's a huge huge solar farm. Um, and it just seems like you need a lot of you need fairly a lot of land for a I guess for a company to make it worthwhile. And is the thought then that we're saying sure, put it here because it's not going to be enough land to put it here. I mean, there's almost nowhere in town that there would be enough land. So, you have to say somewhere. So, you have to pick somewhere. So, that's as good of a place to pick. Unless you have a better suggestion

because because it's not really Yeah, you could do the RC and then be I'm going to take the RC. Yeah, that's Don't put I wouldn't put in the RC. No, that's that's the word. Um, the

the marine commercial has limited land that has a lot of economic potential. And so, sure, solar energy systems generate income and there are other ways to generate income in the marine commercial and that is why I chose to locate it in the marine commercial. Okay. All right. I I think that satisfies maybe good.

Okay. Let's quickly go to cannabis which is on page 38. And uh what do you have to tell us about cannabis? anything that we so

with regard to the the cannabis um the the boundary limitations are determined by state law. Um the you get to choose if you want to allow onsite consumption or not, but since you don't want to allow it at all, I figured you did not want to allow on-site consumption. Um, you can limit the hours of operation if you would like to limit the hours of operation for uh alcohol. I think I changed them to liquor sales, but alcohol sales and I'll get that language consistently, but you have that one. I know that's not an interpretation. So, if you're going to limit the hours of cannabis, then you have to limit the hours of alcohol sales and they have to be the same. You say

alcohol sales you say would not appreciate limitations. Is that it? I do not want you to take any hours of alcohol sales away. We keep indeed. Okay. Uh did everybody get a chance to read all the green how all the green words? Um yes. And it's not just because green and weed. I got it. Okay. So, is there anything else that we need? You said you couldn't tell the difference between the blue.

Yeah. Right. Um, okay. I think we are pretty much understanding the canis cannabis dispensary. Um, all right. So, um, if we go back to, um, we've only got 10 more minutes. Um, one thing I would like to to ask, remember when we all were talking about needing a permit and not needing a permit, and there would be some things you may not need a permit for, uh, such as lemonade sales. I was wondering if you would be all okay with allowing Miss Franklin to put an asterisk near all the uses that would need permits and hence not have us go through all that ordeal. Would you be okay with her doing it, bringing it back next time we review it, make sure that we're good with the fact that, you know, some things need, you know, permits and some things do not. And she'll let us know. Is that okay? She will do the identification. Yes.

One more thing on your homework. Okay. Uh boy, there there's that. Okay. So, that's that's good. Um can we go ahead and do 10 minutes of going through this and just getting slogging through this entire draft? The first two pages we're going to have, again, this is going to be her homework to maybe rewrite some of it. Do you think you're going to rewrite all of it or just uh a couple of them? like the like are you just going to do 299 290-9?

I I would like to have open the option to rewrite all of 290-9 in a more modern way that um maybe moves away from some of the things that are causing the state preeemption

consensus. Okay, good. So that means that we're going to start on 2010 and that is on page 11. And uh basically it's just the descriptions of what the land use classifications table's all about. The PCSC, we're not changing any of that. Is that what we're going to keep that right or what are we doing with that? So I don't have I I didn't recommend any changes to that

but I previously the 2901 was called standards for and conditions for conditional uses or something like that. Mhm. And so you needed to have a a C for conditional use and a SC for when you had a special exception, but the board of appeals should look for the conditions. Yeah.

But now every use has a definition and and in that definition are inherently conditions. And so I'm not sure that you actually need to say that it's a conditional use or that it's a I I definitely don't think you need to say SC like special exception with conditions because the board of appeals is going to have to go look at that definition. So I think you can make all the SC's SE. I think you could make all the C's P's, but I would like to talk to the attorney about that before I definitively say that.

Okay. So we're going to hold on 29010 as well. Then you're going to come back to us with that as well. Can I just ask should that also have number have a number saying saying you know the asterk on the table means if we're going to the aster put is that how you're going to indicate it with an asterisk whatever you use separate them I will okay you'll put something here under the okay great yeah okay so on 2901 uh the one thing if you turn to page 12 am Am I not correct in thinking that principal is with a PL and it's not the P A L that comes with the school?

Where are you by definition? You're right. All principal because there there's a couple principles in here and they're pals. We used to we used to learn a principal is your path. only if you have good grades and you're not being I think I I looked this up. Oh, and the P another definition. It can't be. So, PL is kind of like a rule that you follow or a guideline that you follow. Okay. A principle is like the main principle. Okay. All right. Then that doesn't Okay. So, that will keep then. Thank you. Okay. I stand corrected. Good.

First order of importance. Okay. Then uh we go to number two, the overlay and floating districts. I don't think we need anything changed there unless you have any concerns. Number B, prohibited uses in all districts. Okay. Now, let's talk about that.

Yes. Um, do we want to prohibit all of these in uh what about smoke and vape shops? Do we want to put that anywhere? Um, no. What about um how about recreation camps and cottages? Could those go to the RC on a seasonal basis? What are your thoughts? We won't

you could say in the research in the RC that that somebody could put up like a small structure as a seasonal camp. Yep. I think or maybe some maybe even have tents that are, you know, they come up in the season, they go down in fall and you're done. Something like that. But to utilize the RC I think we've got to Yeah. throw RC a bone and that seems like that's what I wasn't actually calling it that, but I'm thinking

I'm thinking that might not be a bad idea. So, does anybody have any issues with uh that or could you come up with something that would fit in an RC? Yes. So, I think that it would need to like be limited in the amount of the area could take over. It would have I I would recommend it be outside of the 2% chance flood plane given Yeah. things that are happening. Yes. Thank you. And so, that's more strict than the 1% flood plane. So I can come up with some regulations to make it lower impact too. Like nothing that would even be a permanent structure, but that like if somebody wanted to

buy that and be able to bring an RV for the season or something like that that wasn't staying there. I can come up with some stuff for that to present to you next time. And then number 11, non-residential parking in a residential district. It seems to me like there might be some situations if we have that carnival at the school that we might need to have parking in residential areas. Uh just for a 2hour three-hour period, you know, and I just am not certainly want to make it a prohibited situation entirely, but can we make it a very temporary situation if need be? It could go on. Do you want to move you want to move this under temporary uses?

Uh what does everybody think? I think it should just to give us the flexibility in a town that has no parking. I think we should if we want any kind of a uh and question when it says non-residential parking. So if someone's coming to visit someone but they're not a resident. They're talking about a mass amount of parking though. They're talking about not just one person. They're talking about

Well, I'm just saying like back to the neighborhood with getting into the beach. Is that a part of it? It's it's talking about say someone for example in the NC paving the their residential property for a parking lot that is charging fees all the time. Oh yes. Um, so I mean we could leave it in here and say permanent non-residential parking in a non-residential parking in a residential parking district and then we could also add it to the temporary use. Yeah, I I mean I think we might consider that make it a very temporary

right during special event situation. Okay. Uh, and then the rental of automobiles. Sometimes it really seems like we need an area where we could rent an automobile here. I don't know. And do you need more than three uh three cars to, you know, that to hang out in a rental facility? And you could have it in one of the I don't know, maybe up there at the that poor, you know, station that we want to do so much with. Bicycles or something. I mean, you know, everybody needs rides. Their car breaks down. You want to rent a car. Huh? my neighborhood. Be very careful. Do everything in your neighborhood. I'm gonna tell you right now, Jeff, I'm gonna start renting out the parking spaces behind me.

Exactly. Not peritted except a very I mean, does anybody Yes. Now we're getting silly. Does anybody see a need to have car rentals in the community anywhere? You don't. Okay. He says no. You say okay, fine. What about casino gambling? What is going on there? Do we not have gambling in this town? It's not technically gambling. Yeah, it's not called casino gambling. Don't have casino gambling. You have slots and forprofit bingo. Okay, very good. Those are those are non casino is like for the table games. Is that more what it is? Okay.

And we don't want any drive-through windows anymore. Did we decide against drive-through windows? You decided you wanted drive-thru windows because you were really sad when I told you that I had I like the idea of a drive-through window myself. Does anybody mind putting drive-through windows back in? I don't see a problem. I don't see What about drive-through windows? You mean not allowing windows? No, I mean allowing the possibility of having lined out.

Okay. So, we are going to keep that in a Okay, good. Okay. residential uses. Um, we're gonna go ahead and a building. We're gonna go ahead and rename or we're gonna re We're going to look at renaming those. Yes. All right. Um, a townhouse dwelling, does it have to have four or more or can it have three or more? It has to have four or more.

I think it could have three or more. Um I that that House or Senate bill that we were worried about did not cross over. So it doesn't look like it, but that doesn't mean it can't cross over. So I would prefer to wait on those definitions until after I think it's April 13th. Okay. Which is sign. Okay. So there we go. Now turn the page. I know it's 8 o'clock, but let me Okay. Just give me till just let me get to a finishing end.

Is there a finishing point here? There isn't any place to finish, is there? Okay, let me just keep going on and on and on.

Right. So, did you hear what he just said about that? What? It's permitted in the same places or it's defined in the Yes. Uh, it's permitted in the same places as and not permitted in the same places as multif family dwellings. Yes. You think it's duplicative? Is that what uh a multif family is different is defined different. But I think it's the question is should you permit them in more zones? Am I wrong? What was I'm not sure what the question was. Should you is the question should you permit them in more zones or what was your question Larry? Yeah you're saying

well I mean I don't know I just was asking duplexes too and then it just does seem that yeah duplex is too you can have a triplex. Yes. It is confusing. Yeah right. Yeah. You say you can merge those two together. So, do you think we're on number four? Yes, but I think it's the definition of multifamily dwelling that's the problem because a multif family dwelling is like in the same unit whereas the townhouse is is separate single family homes that are attached to each other. So, I think it's the definition that needs work, not the allowing it.

Multif family dwelling sounds kind of like an apartment building. Right. Right. And so you can have I think you do have a couple of homes that are apartment buildings. They have like maybe three or four units in them. I'm pretty sure there's I'm pretty sure you have at least one cuz multif family be a duplex. No, that would be single family attached. A triplex, a duplex, a quad. that's all going to be multi or single family attached. So town home is really kind of like a single family attached more than it's like a multif family is

the building that's like over by the marina. Oh I know. O like over by Abner. It's like Harbor Motel. Yeah. That's an apartment. That's an apartment place. What a view. So you have saying that three town three homes single family homes attached there is no definition that so I think that I think your definition no because it's it's right

yes so that your town houses are No, a building a single family attached a building containing two or three attached dwelling units which right doesn't the numbers so you you don't allow a quad quad right so the reason you have these yeah I do need to work on the definitions right and because the state may have been feeding us a definition I did not want to spend time working on a definition and then get fed a different one by the state. But it we'll know on April 13th whether they're I see it as covered. You don't

so a multif family dwell I'm sorry to labor this. A multif family is not a condominium development. It's not a condom. It is it is okay. So okay that's where you have a common entry. So you have a building containing two or more dwelling units on a single lot having a common roof and a common entry. Right. But could it also be an apartment building where you have separate entries? We have outside entries and you're, you know, like a hotel that hotel, you know, those town houses in Harbor, those rental units that are town houses. Is that what you're saying? They have I'm trying to think if we have them here. Talking about a garden apartment.

Yeah. Or something like that. Yes. But you can have I mean, I know because I own one. Uh you can have a condominium with an out with separate entrances. Yeah. Yes. So that can be so the common entry thing does not apply in my opinion right necessarily. So um can you also change the definition of that as well? I'm going to work on the definitions of all of the housing. I did not want to do any of that if we were going to be given different rules entirely. Um okay and so I'd like to be sure that we're not being gi rules entirely.

Okay. Perfect. So, um I think then we should probably stop at where should we stop here at dwelling uh accessory or where should we stop? Uh Miss Franklin would be a natural place to stop. I think you've been through everything after that or well I would advise that everyone you know review because because we are on a timeline right we I need what I am delivering you to you in April really needs to be very close to what you're going to hold a public hearing on because you have to have your public hearing in May to meet the town council's deadline. So what I would say is if you have other comments about other areas of this, reach out to me. We can arrange meetings. You can just email me your comments. However you want to do it so that what I get to you in April is ready

to approve it. Not necessarily. We can still make changes, but you're we have to make those changes quickly so that the public hearing draft can be published in enough time for the residents to view it before your public hearing in May. So, we've got our homework to make sure we understand and like everything that we had tonight. We have to make sure we hold on to that. Protect it with your life.

Bring any questions. You can email um Miss Franken with any of your questions. Um does everybody have your email address? I'm assuming they do. Everyone should. I think you all have my phone number, too. However best for you to reach out to me. Um it is a cell phone, so you can even text me. Um, anything else that Okay. Uh, the only other thing that I want to do is make sure we have council uh I shouldn't say council, I should say commissioner comments, but is there anything before we leave? Did you want to say one more thing about any of this work we've got to do? I mean, I can just tell you that the accessory dwelling units, the the guidance from the state is not the interpretation that I had of the state law. So, I am working with the attorneys on how best to handle that. Um, and so we probably will want to have a good chunk of time to discuss what comes from that

tomorrow or next month. I do believe we may need to ultimately make more changes to it, but I think it would be good to try to get it in here because we have to have the regulations in place that match the state requirements by October. And again, we want we want to get to coastal resiliency and protecting people that are in the vulnerable areas. Absolutely. So, okay. Thank you. Um, let's do quickly some commissioner comments. Um, Commissioner Smith, anything? I have nothing. Commissioner Gryman, you have anything? I've done enough. You have anything over here? Yes.

Anything? I have one thing. And that is that I'm seeing some properties go up for sale in the community. And you know, way back when we were doing the comprehensive plan, we talked about having to purchase properties in order to make more park land out of it, more tots or senior top. you know, they have now parks for seniors that you can do different equipment. Anyway, we have a couple properties that are in pretty good locations for parks. One right here on 260 coming into town. There's one right off the uh the highway. Uh just a little bit of an idea to put into somebody's head about maybe purchasing some land for parks because as we know from our comprehensive plan, that's one thing we're lacking is

park park uh properties. And of course, Heritage was built without having any kind of a tot lot or anything in that particular community. So that house for sale is right near that community. And that's why I brought that up is that all those kids could then use it or whatever and it's a pretty good location. So that would be the one comment I would have for tonight. But um anyway, thank you all for helping us out with this uh tedious topic. And do I have a motion to Yes. Yes. Are we making any kind of motions for designing? I wasn't going to do it until we know because I keep thinking we're going to be tweaking things. I don't know why I keep thinking that, but

I think if if we can kind of make a motion on both items next time. I'd like to see it seems like we're going to have some things come up. So, yeah. No motion as of yet tonight. Yes. Do you have a question, Jan? Nobody seconded. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, everybody. We had a motion. Anybody a second? Okay, good. Regarding properties, yes, that are up that could be a park. 14th Street and Sea Street. I think you know about that, Sarah.

You come down across from the school is 14th Street. At the very end on the left hand side was a condemned house. And there was some noise about Well, that'd be a perfect place for a little park. You you know, it's close to the bay. It's, you know, it's a bad corner anyway. And I thought there was some noise about use. Do you know anything about that? No, I don't know anything about that actually. But yeah, that's a horror. I know. You know, when these things pop up, we need to if we had any cash in the bank, we should grab agree with you.

Um, but uh anyway, so yes, well, I will tell you that your um town administrator said my favorite thing ever, which is we have all these plans and let's make sure we implement them. So, can you please provide me with a list of everything we need to do to implement them? Um, and so I am working on that for her and so I will make sure that that gets in there. Perfect. Um, so that's great. Thank you. Okay. So, I do have a motion on the floor and a Do I have a second? Second. Okay. All in favor? And nobody is saying no to that. So, we will end this meeting. Thank you very much everybody.

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