Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Commissioner Jorgensson is not here today to do the thought or prayer. Chair, correct? Okay, so we are all set. All right, welcome everybody to Centerville Planning Commission agenda May 13, 2026. Uh we are missing Commissioner Jorgensson and Commissioner Jenkins, I think. And we are going to proceed with a thought. In the words of Jack Handy, home is where the house is. And a quick legislative prayer. Our father in heaven, we're grateful to come together as thy servants and to conduct the public's work. We ask for thy blessing and inspiration as we do so. We say this in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. Amen.

All right. If you'll stand for the pledge of allegiance, please. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right, we are also missing our uh intrepid legal uh counselor, but she'll be back next time. Um, so who is going to lead out on number one? Mr. Eggot. Thank you.

Appreciate it. Um, so as as noted in the packet, this is a consideration for well, first it's a public hearing item regarding a consideration for a municipal code amendment for video inspection required for storm water and subservice water drainage facilities. You can see all the citations. We're amending municipal code as well as well, I guess I should say general utility code as well as subdivision code. The utility codes are the 9.06 section and 9.07 07 and then the 15s are the subdivision ordinances if you're curious. So because there are subdivision ordinances which are land use related being amended here this is the reason that we are bringing this to the planning commission for consideration and review with a public hearing. Um the reason for that is as you noted as you look at the subject and and kind of start to dig into it is we are um trying to find a more uniform and structured way to assess fees that are are somewhat already being assessed but without the right clarity and and and structure from a code perspective to justify those behaviors and practices. So we want to make sure that things are streamlined and in alignment and and basically consistent both in the utility code language as well as the subdivision language looks very clear to developers that the expectation what the expectation is whether it's a site plan or it's subdivision any type of development this is the expectation. Further one of the things that that our um storm water uh staff with the public works department wanted to make sure was clear is this is applicable both to private and public infrastructure camera. So even though if you even have a private infrastructure system that needs to be camered, which all would be in this case, everybody's treated equally. So developer can't say, "Well, it's a private line. Why do you have to camera and inspect it?" Well, we want to inspect it because we don't want brand new homeowners, just like we have a subdivision right now with some private systems that have faulty infrastructure right out the gate and now they're not draining correctly when it comes to storm drain utility. So it's important

that we do that to as a protection while we do have bond money and opportunity to do so even with a private system. So so that's why it was established that way. And again the reason for the new sections is there was stuff that was it's kind of like what we experienced with the landscaping code. There were areas that were like squished that didn't make sense together. And so our legal council has taken those out and created brand new sections that are more clear as those sections are established and defined to to better make it make sense. So, it's more articulate and more easily able to be provided to developers who may wonder what's going on, why this or why that. It's much easier to have um I would say shortened language to better point to depending on what the issue is at hand. So, that that's pretty much the long and short of it. Um we did provide obviously a copy of the updated code. It's a It's a version that Lisa has worked. I think this is probably the third or fourth version of this document that's in your packet. Um, know that there is a fee schedule amendment document as well that is not necessary for the planning commission to review or weigh in, but it is linked directly into this language. So, this language creates the the bedrock or foundation for than those fees existing. And we did upgrade those fees to be more um realistic and matching with how we assess inspections or should be charging for inspection fees of developers when the development comes forward. So were this to to proceed at, you know, a future point, whether it's tonight or a future meeting, the fee schedule would move with it to the city council for consideration as a package of those two items. So just so you know the background there. And uh with that, the only thing I will note is when after we advertised for public hearing, we did receive a document from the um South Dwer district on a completely separate item not related to um the video inspections, but still because it's open and we can consider it. they felt like

they wanted to to provide some commentary relative to how they assess and and supervise storm water, excuse me, sewer um facilities uh for their per their regulations and their their directions. So, they've suggested with an email I received yesterday afternoon some language um that's tied to uh 15.05.060D 060D as part of the subdivision code with a little more clarity of who oversees the sewer district um and the sew or excuse me the sewer systems and the and the um installation and connection to those and obviously down the road helps to make sure they're maintained properly. So, I did talk to uh Miss Hendrickson, which is the person that was noted here is the um submitter of this email, and she said it's just sometimes developers, number one, don't know and don't realize that they have jurisdictional oversight over sewer utility. And so, they the sewer district is continually trying to find opportunities like this to insert that in there. So, it's very clear that it's not cities that there is a separate district that oversees those kind of utilities. Is everything in Centerville serviced by um South Davis?

Yes. Okay. Yep. And that's that's it. That's what I have to provide. But I'm open for obviously any questions as you you see fit to move forward. Um anybody have any questions for staff? So my question is her comment down below that says um if the city would not would prefer not to reference a district by name, do you feel like that's something that we should do? just put sewer district or I talked to the city attorney about it. She felt comfortable with the language that was provided by district paragraph. I just wanted to make sure as noted we do reference when we we talked about the fire department. There are some references in code to the the south south fire district. So

I mean Lis Lisa uh felt comfortable with what was being requested here. Okay. Perspective. Yeah. And I had no qualms. I I was wondering about the language about installing sewer mains to make sure that the developers um understood that it was their obligation and not would not rise larger than uh what would be necessary to service their subdivision. Um but that's taken care of by other portions of the statute and law. So I'm very comfortable with this.

Oh, I will also will note just to catch up uh she did originally say that they might might attend the meeting. I talked to her on the phone and she said that after talking on the phone with the actual um general manager that they they would not attend and they felt comfortable with legal and and planning commission at that point. Okay. So any further questions for staff Mason Irish you'd mentioned that the fee schedule would go with this to the city council. Should we be seeing that? No, because the fee schedule is only subject to the the review of the city council and that was a very clear distinct separation that the city attorney uh established with the submitt of this document today.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. I will proceed to the public hearing phase. I'll open this up for public hearing. I'll note that for the record, we've received public comment from South Davis Sewer District and I'll invite anybody to come to the podium. Since nobody's here, I'm going to close the public hearing and I'm going to take it back to the commission for discussion and or a vote. What are you guys' thoughts? I have just a little bit of a question on section three

under adoption. Okay. So, a right there. So for me, I wanted to everything made sense and it was really really clear. But does this would this pertain to me if I wanted to like add something to my home or I mean is is that what that means? It it it comes back to significant development. Again, this is kind of like the landscaping discussion we had, right? If there's a new development of a property or significant redevelopment of a property, that would be evaluated at that point. significant

significant being probably 50% or more of your your your home is being improved to where there there could be a re-evaluation of storm water. But even then, utility pro or home properties have already established curb gutter system that go into a storm drain. So as a resident, you likely would not have to do that. But if like a site plan area was developed significantly enough, there might be a re-evaluation of the storm water and the storm water basin to make sure that it's meeting the size and the dimensions necessary to retain whatever new volume of water they may be creating by their amendment to their site.

So then do we have that listed somewhere that significantly means like 50% or more? Well, I guess on a a residential property that was the discussion that was I'm using that discussion as the basis for it when it comes to a residential single family. But even in that scenario, as I think about it, it's really not even a relevant comment because again, your system is provided it's its storm drainage is provided by the curb gutter system that goes into the um what you call the open storm sewer.

Yeah, the storm sewer gray and then goes down to the pipe. Anyway, so in like your home situation, it's irrelevant. And if if uh if someone were to do like a multifamily improvement amendment or a commercial or an industrial site plan improvement, we would look at it all anyway as a new review at that point. So I retract my comment about the substantial improvement because the storm utility on single family dwelling is is conveyed differently than it would be in a commercial or industrial site. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, literally that was my only question. I like what she's changed in her verbiage. I think it's clear. It's clear to me and I understood it. Yeah. And I think she did a great job. I do too.

Yep. This is perhaps a more of a remedial clarification on my end, but uh whenever we're referencing the video inspection, we specifically say whether public or private. I just want to confirm somewhere in the code. Have we defined what we mean by public versus private in this case? Is that even necessary to do in this case?

It's defined in in other ways through subdivision ordinance like a plan development overlay talks about how certain utilities can be established as private if accepted by the city council and through the proper approval process. So in most cases private won't be established unless it is in in a situation like that. Um, it might you might have a private line like we have a situation where maybe camera could have fixed it, maybe not, but we had a developer do some installation of a storm water system that actually had a reverse grade and it's created a problem on the site and we're not quite sure what exactly happened. We are actually in the process, ironically, of doing a site plan amendment which would correct that issue. Um, but but some of those systems can be established as private. So, it's it's usually more defined um in some of the other codes and references. Um, you know, there might be I might be able to in a minute do some quick definitional search for private and public, but I don't think there is a definition that's established by land use code or subdivision code. It's more clarified with the um land use processes that establish and clarify what kind of utilities could be installed with that process. That's why I brought up a PDO because it's the most relevant one. Maybe even in a PUD situation, you might have some private um utility as well that would be allowed by the city. Okay.

Okay. Any further questions or discussion points? Okay. I will make a motion. Um, let's see. We have suggested. Um, I will make a motion that we forward a positive recommendation to the city council in support of the proposed municipal amendments as contained in the staff report along with one additional modification. So that under on page um six, well, how do you want to do this? Let's do in

15.05.060 06 subd that that full section be stricken and replaced with the following and it's going to be verbatim from the email. Okay. Um sewer. The subdivider shall comply with all South Davis sewer district requirements for connection to the public sanitary sewer and shall install sewer mains and extend laterals from the sewer main to each lot within the subdivision at the subdivider's expense. That's my motion. I'll second. And do I well for the reasons that this would serve the um public health safety and welfare?

There we go. Nice catch all. I have a first and a second. Any further discussion on the motion? Okay. I will start down here with Commissioner Mendal. I I I I I That's unanimous. That's forwarded with a positive recommendation. Great. Thank you. Who's on number two? Uh that would be me as well. And this one, I'm not sure how you want to proceed where you're down two members, but let's talk about the rule is the nose goes. There you go. So, no, that's not the rule. It's the last one to touch your nose. Hey, man.

Per uh Centerville zoning code 12.20.050C. Um it outlines that the planning commission chairperson and vice chairperson should be elected. Technically, if you read the code, it says every year. Yeah.

Um that is a practice that that hopefully we can correct in the near future. But uh we talked about this oh I don't know what was it maybe three meetings ago. Um and the copy of that zoning code has been provided in your packet along with just the general planning commission if you're curious. I know I sent it a couple weeks ago through an email as well separately but if you're curious some interesting things in there but regardless the intent is to focus on this uh 12.20.050C 050C. Um, and so yeah, their recommendation would be for I guess you as a a planning commission to discuss if you'd like to proceed with that given that there's two individuals who are not present tonight that are part of your planning commission. Um, I will note that one of those individuals will have a rotation uh assignment that the mayor can decide what to do with. I think it's about 3 months or so. So, just take that into account. Um but that being said uh when I have seen these in the past and maybe the the chair can correct me on this nominations are provided and then nominations are closed and then there's some discussion if necessary and then elections are held. So with that I would defer to however chair would like to proceed and yeah I will assist as necessary for questions arise. So thank you.

I say we just vote and get it over with. Um, you guys have any qualms about leaving Lane and Amanda out? No. Okay. So, um, I will accept nominations at this time. I nominate you. Mason, you know, I do. I have a nomination from LA from Mason. Any other nominations? This is for chair, by the way. This is for chair. Yeah. And I really, really want someone else to take the job. I know you do, but we really, really, really want you to finish out 2026. I'll do one more year, but after that, you guys have to start picking up the uh

All right. Uh based on that last comment, I think we can close nominations. Yeah. Hearing hearing no further nominations. Generally, we do this. If I remember right, when Corey did this, it was anonymous where we did little and then and then I've seen it both ways. Would read them. I don't know if we have bylaws that dictate that. They don't. They're not that clear. Yeah, I didn't think so. Um I've seen secret ballot and I've seen formal verbal ballot and I've seen even seen I've even seen two or three people here's what we're going to do since it's unopposed. I was going to say Mason, you were the only one nominated. Let's let's just go down the line for for an I or a nay. I'll start down here. I I nay I

I I told I told the chair it's 2026. Yeah, we'll see. But I said that last year. Did you? I know. But but what I meant last year was 25 to 26. So I just mean complete. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Of course. Yeah. It's it's the uh it's the nose in the camel's nose in the tent. The famous slippery slope. We're already halfway through the year, right? Thank you. By small and devious means. All right. Um I am now going to take nominations for vice chair. I will nominate a little Ray Patterson. Okay. I have a nomination service.

Patterson to continue her services. I can continue. Do you want to? Absolutely. You sure? Yeah. Okay. 100%. Yeah. But that means you're probably in line to be chair. It means no such thing. CAMEL. I don't know. I've seen what happens. As soon as as soon as I get hit by a bus, these guys are going to be like, "Oh, you're the chair now." There you are. That's right. All right. So, I have a nomination for vice chair. I am going to take votes starting down here. Commissioner Mendo, I I I I Oh, you should. No way, man. And that was serving with you.

So, we then now have we're official. We're no longer interim or y whatever or floating. It's now official for another year as of 513 2020. No. Can we vote in a race? Oh jeez. If only. I I'm pretty sure we don't have budget budgetary uh uh Yeah. Let's not go there. Here's um here's what we're going to do. So, we're in our positions until January and we're just going to pick up and finish out and then in January we'll do this the right way. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. That was item number two. On to item number three.

Yeah. Staff report. So, um just to let the planning commission know on May 27th we will be having a um conditional use permit for new business in the city. And so, uh, that will be a good business. That's all I can say right now. We'll provide more information when it's officially in the packet, but and then, uh, we have a site plan amendment potentially, um, by a property, a business who's looking to install a small like garage out building. Maybe I don't think they'll be ready. They might not be ready by then. Okay. So, we might just have the one item that night. Sydney will not be joining us. She'll be out of town. Um, and we'll have Jennifer covering base for it. Hope it's fun.

It is. It is. I'm going to Colorado. All right. And then, um, the only other thing I have to note is the council still deliberating on budget. So, if you're curious to see where things are going, uh, maybe pay attention, uh, Tuesday night or watch the recording. Could be interesting. So, the last one went until last time we had a meeting. It went till what was it? 10:30, 10:45, I think. Right? Is that what I told you? Yeah. So, still early. Can you catch us up? What else is in their kind of backlog with land use decisions we've sent them? Uh, so as as far as like things we've talked about, yeah, like what where's the general plan at? Um,

no. What? Um, should we save that for another day? I can explain where that's at in a very short summary based on what I've perceived. Um it's currently in a posture where they've they've discussed it one time. They had the presentation by Mr. Hup and they've decided to kind of put it on the side a little bit because the budget has become so in the forefront of everything that they're talking about right now. But it does come up occasionally during each of the meetings. Uh the current discussion is to have a brief debate or I guess debate's the wrong term, but establishment of dates for work session for the planning commission to get together and and

work through just like they did with the budget, work through their their concerns and challenges. Some plan some uh council members want to go and do it kind of section by section in each work session discussion like was even requested of the planning commission. Others are kind of like, can we just review it in blocks? And so I don't even know that that's been clearly vetted. Um, that's what I I think setting up a date and having a work session would establish is, well, it's going to be the process and then we can start working through it. But I do know that the the budget discussion and some of the the differences of opinion from the the five distinct council member viewpoints are taking some time and deliberation. Okay, fair enough. That's the best way to explain it. No, that's fine.

Yeah. Okay. Uh, moving on to number D. Well, number D. Minutes. You guys sure you want me? You're just tired tonight. You're good. You got this. That's no good excuse. Moving on to the minutes from the April 22nd meeting. Any corrections, my friends? Hearing none, I'll accept a motion. Yeah, we weren't we weren't here. So, yeah. Correct. Technically, that doesn't matter.

I mean, I did read the notes. Yeah. Well, I did, but yeah. I move that the minutes of the planning commission meeting of April 22nd, 2026 be approved. Okay. I have a motion. I'll second. And I have a second. All those in favor say I. I. I. Any opposed? Negative. I accept the motion to close. I will make a motion to close. I have a motion on the table to close. All those in favor? I All right. We are turned.