City Council - Regular Meeting

Thank You Jennifer we all welcome everyone to our City Council meeting being held out here on August 18 2026 at the Centerville City Hall we thank members of the public that are present staff that's present and council members as well to Let's do a roll call of our council members. Make sure we can do business tonight. Councilwoman Mecham.

Mecham present.

Bangerter present.

Heeman present. Hurst present.

Plummer present. Thank you. All five of our council members are here, and it's good to be here with you. Let's have a legislative prayer thought from Councilmember Robin Mecham.

I'll give a prayer. Our kind Heavenly Father, we're so thankful to meet here as a committee to represent our citizens. We're thankful for our first responders. We're thankful for all those that help furnish the needs to our city and our People, we ask thee please to bless them and to bless us as a council that we will work together, that we will be blessed with the knowledge that we need to make the decisions that are best for those that we govern. And I say this prayer in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.

Amen. Thank you, Councilman, Council Member Mecham. If you'd all rise with me in the feet to pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, The next item is the open session. This is an opportunity for anyone that's present to come to the microphone and identify yourself and where you're from and things that might be on your mind. We encourage you to keep your comments to three minutes or less. With that said, we do have, I guess, just one public hearing matter tonight. and that's re in regards to uh the the center of municipal code and zoning code in uh in renaming the landmarks commission uh as the historic preservation commission so that one will you'll have another chance to discuss then so you don't need to bring up that right now but so with that said other than that one item it's it's open uh just identify yourself and where you're from

Hi, council. My name is Joey Wilson. I visited you at the beginning of June. I've not heard back from the city with any answers regarding the property that UDOT owns on the west side of the Woods Park neighborhood in the corner. So I'm just here to follow up and find out how we can move this forward.

I can give an update. We're actually in conversations with UDOT right now to discuss how we want to proceed with the maintenance of that property. So work is being done.

Would you be willing to give our community a little bit of a status update on what's being discussed? And is that something that you can share with us? I'll leave it to you, Lisa.

Yeah, we're just talking about, you know, reviewing their regulations and the state statutes as well as the city code and just working with their attorneys as well. So just discussing the statutes and regulations that you've already cited and how they interpret them, but we are acquiring additional...

You dots acquiring additional property along the frontage road, so we want to solve this They're going all the way down So we're holding up those property acquisitions until we resolve so your your issue that you brought up has actually caused us to relook at how We sell our property you got to make sure we have an understanding of how it's going to be maintained once we do so Thank you for the heads up, but it's helping us with our discussions with them, so it's working with you out Which is a process?

yeah i imagine it's not very fast so i just want to make sure that things are moving and if that's the way it is then we're we we realize it's not the most pressing thing that the city has to deal with but um it has been a really long time so that's we're just trying to get you know and the other thing i just want to bring up really fast is that i feel like it is a little bit of a safety hazard for a number of reasons the part the Park strip is not being maintained and it's filling up with a lot of dry weeds. And as we saw in Parley's Canyon, I think last year when that huge fire happened, all it takes is a chain going by to ignite the park strip, which then goes into all that dry. There's a bunch of sticks now that people are piling up in there that's dry. And I'm just worried, you know, wrong car at the wrong time could be a little bit of a liability there as well as if you come out of the stop sign on one lane and you're turning left or right you cannot see 40 mile an hour traffic coming and it's i live there so i experience it all the time and many many times you step out and boom there's a car right there because the shrubs are kind of overhanging the line of sight so Even if we could do something temporary just to kind of like get in there and clean it out, that'd be great. But I appreciate that you guys are moving on. Any questions for me?

I want to command you on coming and you do need to keep coming. We are staying on it, but things happen when people come. And so as somebody who was where you are, I say keep coming and keep on us so that we get it done.

All right. I'll do that. Thanks, Ron. Appreciate it. Thanks, Joe. I appreciate your time.

Anyone else for the open session? All right. We'll close the open session and we'll move on. The first thing we have is a presentation. And I want to read you a letter from the Government Finance Officers Association. To address to myself, Clark is the Mayor of Centerville City Corporation, Utah. Dear Clark, we are pleased to notify you that your comprehensive financial report for the fiscal year end of June 30, 2025 qualifies for GFOA's Certificate of Achievement for Excellence in Financial Reporting. The Certificate of Achievement is the highest form of recognition to governmental accounting and financial reporting. and its attainment represents a significant accomplished by a government and its management. When a certificate of achievement is awarded to a government, an award of financial reporting achievement, AFRA, is also presented to the individual or individuals or department designated by the government as primarily responsible for its having earned the certificate. This award has been sent to the submitter as designated on the application. We hope that you will arrange for a formal presentation of the certificate and award a financial reporting achievement and give appropriate publicity to this notable achievement. A sample news release is included to assist with this effort. We hope that your example will encourage other government officials in their efforts to achieve and maintain an appropriate standard of excellence in financial reporting. Thank you. Is there more that anyone wants to say in regards to there's the award in there as well, too? The great job that our finance department does. Nate, you want to come up? And I want you to remind all of us who is of help to you. Who, in getting this award, your department and who works with you?

Yeah, no, as you mentioned, we have a great team here at Centerville. So yeah, I really want to thank Ron and Natalie, Crystal, and Bethany, who are part of our finance department. They all put a lot of work into doing this, ensuring that we get this award. This is the 26th year that the city's gotten this award. So anyway, they do a great job. And not only them, but the other departments as well. This truly is a city effort. And it takes a lot of work from everybody. So we appreciate it.

They do do a great job. Please let them know thank you. And from coming for a long time here, they're all so helpful. Even while they're trying and earning these awards, they're so good at helping the public and being friendly and making people feel welcome. So I can't tell you how much I appreciate them. They're awesome. That's great to hear. And I'll pass that along for sure. Thanks.

So I think we need to give them a big round of applause, and you can pass that on to your staff for the great work. Thanks, Nick. Appreciate it. It does my heart especially good to see those things, you know, in the financial reporting area. So great job, great job.

All right.

Let's go to our public hearing matter. This is a public hearing related to the Centerville Municipal Code and Centerville Zoning Code amendments to rename the Land Guard Commission as the Historic Preservation Commission to appoint Whitaker Museum Board members to act as Historic Preservation Commission members. so this came about uh as we were reorganizing uh and giving our assignments in january and elisa i want to thank her for catching hold of this and working with those those various committees and putting this together and so that's why this is initiated by me but i have to give them the credit for all the work that was done on it because She took the bull by the horns and ran with it and worked with citizens and our committees. So, Lisa, do you want to fill us in more on it?

Yes, thank you, Mayor and Council. So we have two ordinances in front of you. One is to amend the zoning code to revise the Landmarks Commission, to rename it the Historic Preservation Commission, and to amend any references in the zoning code, which there were quite a few, to the Historic Preservation Commission. And our second ordinance is to amend our municipal code to make a few changes to the Whitaker Museum provisions. And also the reference to the historic preservation commission. Um, I did review these amendments with the Whitaker museum board, and I think thanks to the mayor's work with the board, they are willing to take on this additional role. So essentially the Whitaker museum board will be appointed as members of the landmark commission, uh, historic preservation commission now. We have had a hard time filling those roles and it's rarely used. There are some provisions in the dual creek historic where they may, you know, review some things and they can make certain nominations, but they have not been very active lately. So essentially the Whitaker museum board would be similar. They'd wear a hat for the museum board and then they take that hat off and put it on for the Historic Preservation Commission, much like the Council does for the RDA. So I explained that and tried to make it clear in the ordinance amendments that they are two separate public bodies. So when they meet as the Historic Preservation Commission, they will have a separate agenda and minutes for that body, and then they can move on and have a separate meeting for their museum board. Um, so it was helpful to work with them. They were, uh, the Whitaker museum board suggested the name change to the historic preservation commission, and that was fine with staff. Um, I think it's, it's, they, they can use whatever name, so, uh, we could easily accommodate that. Um, and then we made some changes. because there are certain qualifications that the museum board members need to have. And then some qualifications that the historic preservation commission needs to have, but they sort of overlap. So it was helpful, but I tried to put language in there for the mayor when appointing someone to the Whitaker museum, he or she needs to remember, oh, this is also for the landmark. So we have a mix of people that are, uh, qualified for both of those positions. So, uh, we've taken it to the Whitaker museum board, as well as the planning commission. The planning commission is required by law to review any zoning code amendments. Uh, we went ahead and took both the municipal code amendments and the zoning code, and they reviewed them both, um, and recommended approval to the city council. So with that, I think you can have a public hearing. We did this at the planning committee. We just had a public hearing on both. Um, the public hearing is only required on the zoning, but We'll accept comments on either one, but I think this is a really good suggestion from the mayor and council, and hopefully will be a win-win. And the only other comment I think the Whitaker board had was whether this was going to add additional work for the museum director because they will have to take minutes and other things. But I think I acknowledge that we could use other departments because right now the Landmark Commission was historically staffed from community development. So if they need additional help with that portion because there are zoning code issues. So we could staff that body potentially with community development staff. Thank you, Lisa. Happy to answer any questions.

Question for Lisa.

I appreciate the effort to keep these two bodies separate. My question for you from an administrative standpoint, what legal implication is there if they don't? Right, we've certainly laid it out to say these are two separate bodies, they'll keep separate minutes, they'll be in separate places. What if they, as lay commission members who don't have the benefit of having a city attorney in meetings to remind them about the differences, what if they don't and they conflate the two meetings? Does that, the thing that came to mind for me was potentially that could create grammar issues, right? If you've conflated

your entities then maybe they are viewed as one as opposed to two separate entities maybe i'm not thinking right and even open meetings so i did explain to them and offered to come back and have some open meetings trainings because it's always nice to visit with the boards and commissions and see how they run their meetings so i think we can have some training there but also i explained that when they create their meetings on our software they have to use we have to create a new template So I think internally all of our boards should have a staff member as well as a council member liaison. So I hope those don't, you know, those issues don't happen. And, but yeah, there could be some, luckily they don't, they only have advisory authority, but my concern would be if they were making a decision under the dual Creek historic where, you know, they were supposed to have the authority and now they're wearing the wrong hat or they're wearing two hats so yes it could be problematic and i'm certainly happy to you know reiterate that with them but they wanted that separation they were also happy with that separation because they they like being the whitaker museum board and they do different things so i do think that um you know they they understand the distinction and and prefer it and they will actually meet as the whitaker board

90% of the time. They'll probably be landmarks, you know, depending, but. Once a year. Once a year maybe.

Two times a year.

Two times a year at the most. So it isn't like it's an every month thing. Once or twice a year I think would be the, and the other thing they did ask me to mention is they would like some things put in about the historic, the preservation in our general plan to make sure that they've got what they need in the back of that.

And I wasn't as supportive of combining these, to be clear. I just wondered from a legal aspect if this board, this current board, certainly understands 10 years from now when maybe training has gotten lax or right, I just wanted to make sure that this, if we are completing these, if as an administrative practical matter, these two boards start to conflate, does that create problems for us down the road?

And actually, Robin's comment gives me concern for exactly what you're saying, because if they're only meeting once or twice a year, I feel like that could very quickly be lost in translation.

And that's why I think if we do have a staff member, if we continue to use community development, and then they work with creating and generating the agenda, because again, they have to use a different agenda under our software program. So I think that...

But it's not really any different than you had a landmarks committee that only met once or twice a year. So they weren't any more up on the rules than these people would be.

It's mixing the meetings. That's the concern. It's not that they're meeting. It's that they could intermix the meetings.

Well, it's going to cause a problem for... the city recorder because now we don't have necessarily, you know, because you have to post your minutes and your recordings on the Utah Public Notice website.

At least for me, I kind of envision... as we're getting this started and they maybe have their first couple historic preservation commission meetings either i or another staff member would be there just to make sure you know we start the recording and stop the recording this meeting is closed okay we can go ahead and start the next meeting just to kind of help you know walk them through that process because it can be a little confusing i mean even here we had three different entity meeting well work session is different but like you know we had RDA and ACB and we have to make sure that those all stay separate so with a group of volunteers it's a lot to ask of them to understand all of that so I would either plan on being there myself or make sure somebody's there a clearer understanding though when the Whitaker Museum is meeting monthly and the Historic Preservation Committee only meets once or twice a year I mean aren't they going to get a good

even the new members that come on, a good distinguishing factor in their mind, boom, this is, we're acting in a different role.

And I do think they'll need training because they won't know why the Historic Preservation Commission is meeting. You know, it'll be a new sort of agenda item that they'd have to be on.

As long as we have a member, I think, of community development to be there to help assist them and walk them through that process, that gives me more comfort. But I wanted to flag that as an issue because while I am still supportive of it, I think that it makes a lot of sense to combine those two. I shouldn't want, by combining the two, to create an inadvertent problem for us down the road when we have those who aren't as cognizant and as strict about corporate formalities as perhaps we are.

Can I just ask a clarification? Even the name, the new name, Historic Preservation Commission, that gives a strong implication that what they're doing, preserving historic sites. Is there a way that once a site is preserved as an historic site, that it can be unpreserved?

Yes, Centerville just has a recognition, so they recognize it, but you can do whatever you want with any sort of landmark or historic site, but it gives the city the opportunity to document before it's demolished or before it's changed significantly.

So we could make your house historic site but then you could knock your house down it doesn't put any conditions on your piece of property but you would let the city know so that they could come take pictures document whatever they wanted before you knocked it down but they will not tell you what you can or how you can do it there are certain advantages with our own planning department that If you do things a certain way, you can get money off of your... Building permit.

Building permit, thank you. There's some incentives in the Dual Creek Historic District if you preserve or follow certain architectural guidelines.

So you don't have to, but there are some advantages. Okay, thanks.

Great, let's go to the public hearing part of it then. So this is now, I'm opening a public hearing in regards to the Municipal Code and Centerville Zoning Code amendments to rename the Landmarks Commission as the Historic Preservation Commission and appoint Whitaker Museum Board members to act as Historic Preservation Commission members. Any member of the public that wants to comment on this, you're welcome to. Just state your name and where you're from. That is now open. Seeing no comments, I will close the public hearing and we will come back to during that brief time if you had any other thoughts in your mind or if anybody's ready to submit a motion on it.

I have a thought. Because Landmarks Commission was where I earned all of my city experience. I served at least eight years. I think it was upwards of three four-year terms. but and I remember meeting monthly and I remember you being there many of the meetings I also remember having a city planner there of every meeting that we had so I believe that that support is absolutely vital to keeping the the Commission knowledgeable and educated on what we're supposed to be doing. So I think that that is important. And I always felt like there was a connection between the Whitaker and the Landmarks Commission. So I think there is some reason to see this go forward. As we have talked about the Whitaker Board, I believe that I was led to believe that there was a member of that board that was not a member of Centerville City. I was wondering if that is going to be something that we want to, as we move forward, say that if you're going to be on this new historic Preservation Commission, which I think should be Centerville residents, does that mean that we're going to be looking at the Whitaker Board as being only Centerville residents?

I would really worry about that. We have some residents that are on it that bring a ton of information, a ton of And I've only been on it for just a little while. There's one man that's not from Centerville. But that's where all his education and everything lies. He's just super on everything that's brought up.

So he does not live in Centerville?

He does not live in Centerville. I would be sad to lose some of that. I think we can get some real expertise by going outside of Centerville. on this because it does take some knowledge to get the grants and do the different things.

So am I hearing from you, Councilman Plummer, that you have concerns that in acting, putting our hats as Historic Preservation Commission members that should only be Centerville residents for that one? Well, I think it should be a consideration.

If people do have expertise for historic, or for the Whitaker, which I can see being more of a, this is a museum that's more regional, that has provided that cultural a facet to our community. I could see people outside of Centerville being interested in serving there, but that does not necessarily mean that they would be the best for something like this new commission. And so are they different skill sets, essentially?

I would think his skill sets would be great for the landmarks, Number one, he understands the state and the state-led regulations and all of that, which a lot of the lay people don't. I mean, you can call somebody to be on, but they don't understand all of the requirements and the grants and the preservation. I personally have been very impressed with him being...

So that's this one person, but now we're talking about future... and there may be other people that would apply to be on that Whitaker board that don't have that same knowledge base and that they would be qualified for the Whitaker board, but would they be qualified for this?

They have to be appointed by the mayor and approved by five people.

Just so you know, there's more than just one individual in my time as mayor that are non-residents on Whitaker. And you could make these. There's been multiple. But that's the only board that we allow it on. I've had volunteer applications for other of our commissions, boards, committees, and outside of the city, and I don't even entertain them.

I think right now there's at least one. As far as the Landmarks Commission went previously, were non-residents allowed to function as a commissioner of the landmarks?

I don't believe so.

So I think that, I think I'd like to understand that.

I don't know that we mentioned that. Let's see.

It would have been in 12-20-070. I mean, I hear what you're saying, Robin. I don't disagree with anything that you've said. But Brian's right. Like, you can't necessarily, I guess for that Historic Preservation Commission, is there a reason that we would want them to be a resident of Centerville to vote? And can we distinguish it just like we distinguished our, what do you call that, ABC, ACB? The ACB and the RDA, you know, tonight we had separate roles.

I mean, can we still have them be part of Whitaker and just... Yeah, well, I think that, I don't think it previously stated, it just said Landmark Commission shall... serve without compensation, have a demonstrated interest, competence, or knowledge in historic preservation or architecture. To the extent available in the community, two commission members shall be professionals from certain disciplines of history, architecture, et cetera. So it doesn't clearly say that. I think with most of our boards and commissions or committees, the assumption is they will be members of the community. it doesn't say that for all of all of them. And I think it is up to the mayor and that, and that, but my request would be to keep it the same though. If you know, if, if you're going to say the landmarks has to be, citizens, then the Whittaker would have to as well.

I wouldn't want to do that.

I think they've been. I'm sorry, and I'll let you go. But you said that you do not entertain anybody outside of the city for other commissions and committees. So I would say, why then would we do that?

Because she just said that, where she said that they need to be, we need to have two that hit certain requirements.

is what Lisa just read.

But it's not anybody's on the Parks Committee. Nobody has to have a background in parks or a background in rec. You've just got to be a parent. You've just got to be a baseball fan. You've just got to be. But these people, in order to get.

You need to be a resident of Centerville. You what? You need to be a resident of Centerville. Right. More importantly. Right.

So with this committee, there has to be certain backgrounds in order for them to be able to apply for their grants. and to act upon some of the things they act upon.

But that's all for the Whitaker board, right? Like everything you've just mentioned definitely applies to the Whitaker board because they're going after grants.

The landmark is more, I mean, that was where you got your grants. That's what we used to do when they would pick a house. They're the ones that designate some place.

We went out and got that...

from a third party. Well, the Whitaker got the grant for you. Because you didn't have the expertise on your committee to get it. So the Whitaker got the grant for them to use. Then they hired somebody to get the information in order to make it a historical district. Because they could get a grant that would pay for that. So they would pick a house, pick something, pick Ronskast Station. And then this grant paid a third party to do all of the

I think Councilman Bangener brings up the greatest point because I will interview the person. I get at least a volunteer form, if not some sort of resume. to see if they're qualified to serve on this type of board, then I have promised all of you, and I have always done it, I will forward that to you. So you get an opportunity to determine if that person's qualified to be on the board or not. The outside of the Centerville people on the Whitaker have, for the most part, been a really big help because they are They are historical nuts, you know, and that's what they know.

I was going to say, and I'm in no way saying that that part should change, but I think it's more for me, is there any concern about this Landmarks Commission? Does it in any way function differently than it would I don't know the answer, I'm just asking. I hear what Brian's saying, and I'm kind of questioning it as well.

Yeah, I think there are certain committees that require more expertise, and in that case, you may not have that expertise in the city. So, for instance, with the Whitaker. So just looking at our code, our Parks and Rec and Trails Committee are the only two committees that you have to be a resident. The Whitaker Museum, the Tree Board, and the Audit Committee, you do not. And the Audit Committee, we specifically require one independent person

who is not necessarily a resident either i mean i frankly if there's no legal repercussions or concerns i'm i that's fine with me i just i do think it was a good thought to like it is like vet it out and just make sure that there's not something we can think about i'm ready to make the motion go ahead

I'd recommend that we approve the proposed Centerville Municipal Code and Centerville Zoning Code amendments to rename the Landmarks Commission as the Historic Preservation Commission and to appoint Whitaker Museum board members to act as Historic Preservation Commission members. Per ordinances 2026-10 and 2026-11. Do I have a second? I'll second that.

Got a second. Let's vote. Councilman Banger going to my right. Aye.

Aye. Aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Thank you. That passed unanimously. Let's go to, we're skipping item number two because that's Centerville fee schedule amendments for field use fees. Brenda had a nice, Brenda and I had a nice discussion on Friday, but Haley is over that and she couldn't be here tonight, so. There's no time deadline on that, so we will put that on the next meeting. Let's go to item number three. This is the Centerville Municipal Code Amendment for the Citizen Corps Committee, initiated by Chief Ackerson, and he's got Louisa McDonald here to talk about it. Hello, Louisa. Good to see you. Go ahead.

I am the liaison between the city and the Centerville, the Citizen Corps Council. And I want to give you a little background of what this organization is. It started about 2008 with the sole purpose to bring community leaders and Centerville Emergency Management together to prepare for and to get citizens ready and engaged in post-disaster, pre-disaster and to help perform in responding emergencies. In its inception in 2008, the city council officially recognized the CCC and pledged to support it, but there was no formal agreement made. There was no formal relationship that was ever established. So for the past 17 years, various cities' employees, like myself, and I act as a city liaison right now, have worked with the CCC to mesh this group together. And with the support of several city leaders, we'd like to request that the city council to formally recognize the Citizen Corps Council to strengthen community preparedness, volunteer engagement, and the city's ability to respond to and recover from emergencies. I'd be happy to take any questions you have about our group.

Actually, if I could just say something really quickly. I think that the people that serve on this council are just the top notch of our community. I'm grateful for the opportunity that I had to be there for the first couple years of my time on the council. How would this affect the current makeup of the council?

would would there be would you look at trying to get new members to come in would you operate with what you have right now how would that look for the time being we probably would we would ask that group if they wanted to stay as of right now we use the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints they're It's a calling for them to be district leaders. And we kind of want to take that, not take it away, but give them an opportunity to, do you want to stay and not have that be part of your calling? Because as of right now, it's hard to keep some continuity when they get released. We're starting all over again. And I think we're missing a strong opportunity of those people in our community who are not members of that faith, that they're not engaged, which is one of the strong reasons I want to invite everybody in the community to be part of this group so we will keep some as they want to because once they get in they get it and they are they're all in but then they get released and we're starting all over but they still have that passion we would like to maybe invite some of that passion back but to answer that question we will if they want to stay but we will open it up to the citywide because they're probably releasing them in a year or two right yeah yeah

Well, at least, correct me if I'm wrong, but because there is no carve-out for existing members, when we enact this ordinance, it goes into effect, which would mean that all of the members, if they want to stay, would need to put their applications in to Mayor. Mayor would need to bring them to the City Council, and the City Council would need to approve them.

Yes, because now it's a city, it's actually a... another public entity city committee right but I do agree I appreciate the work that's been done I think this is a good approach to have it under our umbrella I don't know if you recall but this was even highlighted by our auditors that it was one of those hybrid entities where the mayor had the authority to appoint but we weren't following governmental entity rules, so I think this is a good approach. But yes, that's a good point that these would be officially appointed by the mayor with the consent of the council.

Gatsby 84. This is our last one to accomplish from Gatsby 84 five years ago.

And Louisa, I am particularly supportive of it for the reason that you indicated. It would allow people who are not members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, including myself, right, to be able to participate in a really worthwhile

organization for all the reasons that brian just stated so thank you for putting this forward they weren't excluded before it's just no i think that's just what was organized in the beginning because they used all the different lds stakes and we we referred to them as districts because it's a natural boundary and we'll continue to use that because it's a natural boundary and it was here first and it works but i want to be more inclusive of those people who live in that boundary so it's not just the ward members, the area members. I want to expand on that and get everyone involved. There's talent out there that we don't know about.

So are you going to give me a great outline of what people will do on this? Because I've worried about assigning a council member to be over it and left it up to you and Chief and Chief Chow before. So as I talk with people, I got a good feel to tell them what they're gonna be doing?

Yes, I believe it is, Lisa, it is in the ordinance that you wrote up of what their jobs are and what their duties will be.

I didn't know if you want, yeah, if you're free to add to it. I'm sure.

We want all kind of qualifications and how they will serve. The group itself will vote on our leadership, our chairperson, who wants to be a chairperson. uh... if there's vacancies if someone says yeah this isn't working for me or if it's too much time or whatever then we'll appoint those as necessary and refer them to you but yeah everyone will have a job it's all volunteer to the betterment of each citizen here so i'm assuming the districts slash stakes they're not going to be calling people anymore it'll function more like the parks and rec committee people will apply

I'm just trying to...

I think that they might call people still.

Okay, well, that's fine. I'm just trying to understand it. But we still have to appoint them. Yes, that's fine. I'm just trying to understand how that's all... I get that it's a really good idea. I'm trying to now see how it works in real action.

What we don't want to do is feel like the LDS Church is being excluded or pushed out of this organization because they're very instrumental in helping us start it. It was a city-led initiative. We brought in the various stakes from the LDS church, and they all ponied up a person to represent their district. So we don't want to stop that relationship. It's a great relationship. We just want to expand on it. And so the stakes can continue to call people to be their representative within the CCC, but that person may or may not be an actual committee member. Oh, got you open meetings that anyone can attend. And we, and if, um, if an, a district leader happens to not be, uh, a, a, a church representative for the LDS church, I would encourage the LDS church to still send a representative and then collaborate with their district leader of that area.

I think that's what my concern is, is generally speaking, like if you, if you don't have these districts saying, oh, we need to get our person over there, do we lose some of that? continuity and also like placement, right? Like you need to have representatives spread throughout the city. You don't, it's great if we have 10 from this area, but if we are missing all like 10 from this area, we may have some gaps that would take you actually more time to, you know, I mean, in a case of emergency, we need a network to get ahold of people, right? So that's what I'm, that's more what I'm saying is, do we have an idea of how to, I guess, still, encourage those, you know, I just don't want to see that part fall off. But I like what you're doing. I think it's really smart. I just want to make sure it functions well.

Yeah, I think as it's been stated, we're keeping that framework. But what's been recommended is that most of our committees have five to seven members. This one will have five to 11 so that we can broaden that because if you look at the qualifications, it anticipates you know expertise from many areas such as you even health care or animal control or you know we might go to the county and other things so we're making it a little bit bigger so that that some of those additional expert areas of expertise can be added and i think that's fantastic to mayor's earlier point right like this is something that he could vet as well so as he's looking if he gets 10 people and they're all in one area yeah that doesn't really make sense so

i think that the mayor would play a part maybe that's helpful to just yeah i like i said i'm totally supportive of it i agree with everything that you just said of course this should be open to the entire community and you know it really does matter that the entire community is considered and taken care of i just also know that you know probably the fastest network in this town is still sure through the districts, if you, you know, for lack of a, you know, that's just, I mean, that is, information gets disseminated and whether or not you are a member of that district or state, you are being watched out for because everybody's watching their neighbors.

One thing I like about the CCC's organization is on the neighborhood level, right? We have the district leader, which is on the LDS state level. then you have area representatives, which is, which are on kind of the ward level, but then you have block captains. And if the CCC, if the area, if the district is set up correctly, there's block captains and those block captains are responsible for everyone on their, on their, how many streets they have, regardless of religion or who they are, like they should know who they have. And so they have contact with them. And so we may go out through the district leader with information, But then it should be disseminated down to everyone.

Yeah. I mean, here's an example. At one time, and I know what you're dealing with probably a little bit, is it probably does this as far as effectiveness and who's called and then assigned. But at one time, I had a red and a green paper. And it had... Specific instructions my block captain brought it to every house in the neighborhood if there was an earthquake You posted a green sign if you were good you posted a red sign if you weren't I'm sure it's it would be great to get some consistency that way just so that you know and And you do need people that are passionate about it to make sure that that happens

And I think that the passion comes from volunteers. Sometimes people being called develop a passion, but sometimes it's not there initially. And I think providing this opportunity for people for people that might just be a block captain to get involved on this Corps would be a great opportunity for those people that don't necessarily get looked at for this district leader position within their stake. So I think that it's definitely more inclusive and I see that as a positive.

So I think it's great and I agree with all of it and it definitely seems more inclusive. My concern is So my understanding is the committee was one person from each stake or whatever and then they had bishops or whoever in one in each ward and then they went to the block captains. So are we going to lose that? I mean, that's my concern is I like having a block captain, no matter what denomination they are, that knows everybody on their street and can say, there's an old man over there and we haven't seen him. So how are we going to still do that? Because I thought all of those things are callings. Are we going to lose that? So we're going to have this group, which certainly does not need to be LDS. But then how are we gonna trickle down? We've got four or five in the group, but then we've gotta trickle down into each district, into each neighborhood. How's that gonna work?

Well, I think it's gonna take a lot of communication. Maybe district leaders talking with the bishops or, heck, I'll even do it. Just give them an understanding of we wanna involve more of your your neighbors and make this a neighborhood effort. And so you find those people who are passionate about it, who are not, yeah, I get this feeling and I'm never going to do it. I don't have the time or I don't want to, or if it's something that's, you know, they have a maybe flippant attitude about it. We want to find those people who are passionate about it and are willing to do it for a while.

I do think that the, Just as though we're kind of changing the relationship on the district level, the district area level would be the same. So the district leader would have their areas they'd be responsible for. The same geographic boundaries as a ward, but who the area leader is could vary depending on.

But then who's gonna call the block captains and things like that? That's my concern, I guess.

Yeah, I think you'd have to communicate with that ecclesiastical leader, with that bishop, and talk about it. Because in an emergency, as we've discussed, you know, faith has no boundary. Right. And I think you're going to have to open that line of communication.

I mean, we have block captains right now that aren't aliens.

Right.

Yeah.

I'm just wondering who's going to make sure we have all those block captains, I guess.

The district leader. The district leader trickles down to the area leader, yeah.

Might I just communicate I've been on that committee for several months now and and It's it's super impressive and communication is the key most of the meeting is dedicated to how to work these radios and get the communication water to the end of the row and back to the leadership from the end of the row and I think it's I think it's highly likely there's going to be a representative from each of the what do we have six sticks in the city and

Or, but we have five areas because we include the west side.

So it's highly likely that among those 11 members, one of those will be from one of those stakes. Some stakes now have two or three. And I did want to ask, and so I think, Gina, or Robin, to your point, that that's really important for that particular individual to be in touch with the other ecclesiastical leaders in that area to make sure those districts and block captains are assigned and it's disseminated appropriately. But I was wondering, the makeup of the case, seems like there's more than 11 people there now at our meetings, aren't there?

There is not. So right now we have, so the committee members would be the voting committee members. Right. So Louisa, me, you, we're not voting members. Right. So you start, so we have about, we have nine right now that attend. You can count your five district leaders. You've got your communications, MRC, and CERT. and the Bridge Community Church. I think that's everyone who's attending regularly right now. And so then if we add on a couple more positions to add some flexibility, that would bring us up to the potential of 11. So our intent would be to bring to the mayor five district leaders for consideration for the committee. And once again, someone for the communications over CERT or the medical reserve corps and another outside church, probably the bridge.

Is there a way to get that Episcopal church?

That has been a talk within the CCC of trying to expand that. And so we've been in communication with them over time. Yeah.

Yeah.

It is, yeah.

I mean, every group, right? But I do see that as, I mean, I love the bridges involved, but also it would be nice if we could get them to.

They've been invited, and they've come a couple of times. It's just not consistent. Yeah, that's fine.

They're an excellent resource in the community.

They are an excellent resource. I know this is probably the never-ending job of trying to gather all the little people. Gather enough people to get everything right.

But I will tell you that the Episcopal Church does have some members who are great in communications and extremely active in the ham radio area.

Oh, great. Okay.

So there are some areas there. And it's just kind of a different makeup of people in the Episcopal Church as opposed to some of that stuff.

Well, I'm sure they have people coming from Bountiful and other places.

I was just going to say, Jeannie, you're probably aware that much of their congregation does come from out there. Yeah, a big part of it, 90%.

And maybe that's really heavily impacting that. I'm not. I just...

The other thing I just wanted to ask, I mentioned it from the chief asked for some feedback. The appointment of the chairman for just one year, seems like you barely get your feet yet in one year. Is that something that seems like maybe a couple of year appointment would be?

I would expect and want the chairperson to probably be on there more than a year. One problem I see we have right now is we have a two year commitment to be on the committee at all, right? So then we extend out. And I wouldn't want a brand new person probably going on as the committee chair. So you gotta get in there, get some experience and get going. But I also don't want people, the committee chair could be a big position. And so I'm hesitant to have someone sign on for this multiple year, not contract, but commitment. And so if they could get on for a year and then my anticipation was, you know, the first meeting of every January, they, they choose their new committee chair and vice chair. And if it's the same person, ideally things are going good. They want to keep going. They keep going. Yeah. A couple of year commitment when their original commitment on the committee is only two years. And it is common.

All of our committees, um, city council the planning commission the board of adjustment we all have a new chair each year and it allows you know others but the planning commission has voted in the same chair for a couple years now but it's nice to let other people have that experience as well all right councilman banger you also had messaged me questions about open meetings and zoom links and opportunities for people to attend the meeting virtually and internally we talked about this idea and

I myself have attended virtually before to some of these CCC meetings, but I've been out of town and wanted to attend. And anyone who attends who would like to, who can't make it to a particular meeting and want to attend virtually, I think we're all on board for doing a virtual link for them to attend. I do worry about sending out a a link for every meeting, an opportunity for people to attend virtually rather than in person. I guess some of our greatest benefit of the meeting is the relationships we build throughout the community. And I think we lose some of that when we attend virtually consistently. If we meet at 7.30 on a Saturday morning, that would be very tempting, just to roll over in bed and pop an AirPod in and attend virtually right. That would be very nice. But absolutely, I don't know if you have any thoughts or things.

I just thought that it would be opportunistic many times for members to not miss out because they had a conflict that day and to stay informed. But I would support having it. Especially maybe you could have it more of a particular member suggested, hey, I'm not going to be here. Can you help me on that? Absolutely. Yeah.

Can I ask, you said it's a two-year commitment. Is it crazy to do three? The Parks Committee's three. Planning Commission's three, right? Three years term. And I just think some longevity there would be really helpful. Having served on the Planning Commission, I mean, three years flew by. And then I did another three years. So I don't know. I just think, I mean, maybe that's asking a lot of, you know, maybe this is a different situation.

It goes back to the same argument we were making about the chairmanship, though, too. They can certainly be reappointed after two years.

Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah.

don't yeah i don't know if anyone else has any any thoughts on on the point i'm fine with the way it is i just wondered why it's two and the others are seem to be well i don't know what the tree board is or the they're all three they're all three so do we do three and because the idea is kind of alternate so not everyone comes up at the same time yeah we could we would yeah i think two of one is our initial thought right half the group would be two year commitment to start with and the other half would be one That way we start rolling over.

I don't know that staff has a position on whether it's two or three. I think there were some practical thoughts with the two years and more aligned with the one year, but three would be fine.

I would be supportive of changing it to be three.

Just some consistency, right?

Yes. I think there is something to be said about the knowledge carryover. And it would allow for more rotation, potentially, rather than like half and half of the board switching every two years. Plus, there is something to be said about consistency in terms of all of the commissions. Three, three ever, you know, you're on commission, it's three-year term. We don't have to think hard about it. I think I would be inclined to do three, unless you guys tell me,

no commission commission committee members are going to say not two's enough yeah i don't know so what do we do one-third of the committee rotating every year is that that's what i'm just going to say is i do a one year a two year and a three year so you're only losing a third each year okay yeah yeah and it does say they'll be appointed so um we can work with the mayor on that we'll have to bring those appointments back to you at the next meeting

I just think it might be a little easier, too, for the mayor to keep up on that. We're not recognizing the real victim of all that. No. When our parks committee was down a few members, I mean, that poor mayor, he was busy. And every time he'd get somebody, it'd be like, phew, three years. You know what I mean? I was like, we don't have to worry about that for a little while.

Yeah, that's why I'm leaning back, just listening. And that's why I asked the question, Louisa, too. What qualifications do they need? This to me is, I mean, every committee is important, but it's almost like you need some background. But then when you tell me they've been called by the LDS church, they may not necessarily have the background, but we need to at least have people that see the importance and the passion of this. Because when an emergency happens, this has been so vital in the past, this committee, even with things like wind storms and that sort of thing.

I can definitely, some of those positions would be almost required to have some experience. If you're bringing in someone who's going to be in charge of our communications, our CERT team, or even the Medical Reserve Corps, those are some positions that you'd probably need some experience. But district leaders, I think what's most important is just the desire to serve and be engaged and to learn. To me, that always trumps experience.

And I know I'm the mayor, but I think for a lot of people it's easier to say no to the mayor than it is to an LDS bishop.

Well, I sort of agree with you that that might be kind of the case. Which is kind of why I brought up my first comments, because I'm like, we're going to be okay, right?

But that is the inherent problem we're getting, is right now we actually have a really good core put together, but historically we get people in there who say yes to a calling and no to Saturday mornings at 7.30, right? And so we really do need people who are willing to accept the calling from a mayor, right?

Yeah. I could talk to the state president and see if we could get you a double calling there. Cross-deputize you.

you ask those questions i mean uh brent and i've talked off on this for years and i've you know i've liked how it's functioned and i could see it but yeah i get a little little nervous yeah a little apprehensive i mean i think it's our it's our emergency preparedness right right and and probably you know we hope we don't ever need it but we have needed it in the past and it really is probably the most important committee

You know, if we have a disaster, we aren't going to have time to figure it out. We're going to have to just hopefully kick into action. So I do appreciate all the work you guys have done. I mean, you have clearly thought through every nuance, and I appreciate that, because it really does need to be the whole community.

I think this has the potential to strengthen this committee. That is my outlook on this. This is going to make this committee stronger.

Well, I'm hoping it'll strengthen the community as well.

That's what I would be thrilled to have happen.

I really do think right now we have great pockets in the community. On the street level, when a disaster happens, our residents are so good about getting out and helping each other From a city standpoint, what I want to make sure we get is good communication back up on what's happening, where help is needed, and we can filter down our guidance on what to do next. I know work's going to happen out in the neighborhoods. It's just the communications is one of the biggest key things that we need as a city. Agreed.

All right. We're looking for proof of ordinance.

I'll make a motion. That we approve ordinance 2026-16, enacting section 3.03.100 of the Centerville Municipal Code. TO CREATE THE CITIZENS CORE COMMITTEE WITH ATTACHMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE AND THE RESOLUTION 2008-23 CITIZENS CORE COUNCIL. OH, THAT'S AN ATTACHMENT. BUT WITH THE ONE ADDITION THAT THE TERM OF THE APPOINTMENT BE THREE YEARS. IS THAT WHAT WE WANTED?

I'LL SECOND.

MOTION IS SECOND. DO WE NEED FURTHER DISCUSSION? everybody good uh councilwoman hayman going on my right aye aye aye aye aye thanks louise and chief appreciate it all right let's go to item number four this is centerville personnel policies amendments drug and alcohol testing we have stuff in your packet but who wants to address it from the staff

lisa is going to legalize she's going to legal it yes this is known as the rabbit hole amendments to our drug and alcohol testing policy it started out bryce came and said hey let's we really need to designate our safety sensitive positions because they are subject to random drug testing so we need to allow them you know highlight these are the positions that are safety sensitive so we analyze that under the state law. which is kind of a broad definition, which means that a position that directly affects the safety of governmental employees or the general public, or a position in which the employee has access to controlled substances. But we did that analysis and we have a recommendation which is included now as an attachment. And I think we feel good about that list. And in addition, many of those positions are already subject to random testing because they are DOT drug tested if they, you know, have the DOT license or they drive our snowplows, et cetera. So just in doing that, then I like to look at other amendments in the law and realize that just in this legislative session, there was HB 236, which is now referring to saliva as oral fluid. So we will now be using that language in our testing. They also made some changes this year to the cost of the second sample. So if you have a urine test, the second sample, we used to put that burden of cost on the employee to challenge that or to run that. Now by state law, it's split equally between the employer and the employee. and also that we need to pay for the cost of transportation for current employees to get to the testing. So then I went, I just decided to go through the entire local governmental entities drug-free workplace act and see what other interesting amendments we've had over the last few years. And there were a few amendments that were also on my list of things to do. And I will say probably from 2023 or 2024. But we had a lot of amendments regarding medical marijuana. When medical marijuana became legal in Utah, the state adopted a couple statutes which require us to give new employees notice that there's this conflict between federal law, drug legality and Utah law. And the Department of Human Services was responsible for coming up with a form, but I could not find that form. And then they changed their name. And so anyway, I just put notice in here because it's been on my list. We're supposed to give that notice every time we hire them, but I'm putting it in our policy so that we're trying to comply. Um, and also just stating that we basically are treating medical marijuana as any other kind of prescription drug. And that's what the state law is basically saying by saying, Hey, you have to treat this like any other, you know, prescription drug, and you can't take, um, adverse employment action just because an employee holds a medical marijuana card. but that stated, and we have had some questions over these past few years, like, Hey, I have a medical marijuana card, but it doesn't mean you can show up showing signs and effects of, you know, being on medical marijuana. So they need to talk. The burden is on the employee to talk with their physician, to find out if they can do the functions of their job. Um, just like any other, prescription drug. You need to make sure you can still do your job. Um, and then the, uh, another thing that I wanted to add was this prescription drug. So I've added two prescription drug sections. One is making it clear now, um, that, you know, obviously there's lawful prescription drug use, but probably more common is this unlawful prescription drug use where you're taking too much or you're taking someone else's prescription drugs. So we have a clear section in here that it's unlawful or intentional misuse of prescription drug medication while on duty is a violation of our policy. And then the lawful use is similar to what I just discussed with the medical marijuana that you can be on prescription drugs, but you need to talk with your physician and see if you can perform the duties while on that prescription drug. So there are a lot of amendments. Um, and, oh, and the final one that was on my list, this is just so great was whenever we do a federal grant, we have to comply with the federal rules. And so I added a provision in here because they always ask, or sometimes when they're doing audits on our federal grants, hey, have you adopted the drug-free workplace statement? Do you have a drug-free awareness program? And then there are also notice provisions of anyone working on that grant if they get convicted of a controlled substance violation. So we have, it'll be easy when we apply for grants, we can just point to this section that yes, we've complied with the federal requirements on grants. But that does complicate it for employees that are working under those grants. And our police officers, those two categories have to follow federal law in terms of zero tolerance on medical marijuana. There's a lot of amendments, and I'm happy to answer any questions. You may have some questions. I still have questions, but we're doing the best we can to comply with the law and the many amendments that have been enacted over the past few years.

So, Lisa, I have a question. Are we, City Council, Mayor, employees?

No. No. We will not be drug testing you. And I would also like to disclose that we had a discussion internally about whether to drug test volunteers because we can under the law, but we elected not to. So if you would like us to add that in, we specifically have to say, but very few of those are safety sensitive positions. It complicates it. Anyway, I should say that we are only doing full time and part time employees but taking off volunteers, we did add in limited and seasonal employees because those are actually the ones that do perform safety sensitive positions in the parks department. So we added, even if you're a limited or seasonal employee and you're using, you know, equipment and mowers or driving a city vehicle, then you will be, um, pre-employment drug. You're subject to this and you're also subject to random.

I'm curious, why is the city council not on that list?

You're not, well, by definition, you're not an employee, you are an elected official.

And a volunteer, other people you're talking about appointed aren't necessarily employees either. I mean, I'm fine being on the list and think all of us should be, make our employees feel better that we're subjecting ourselves to the same rule every living body.

Council Member Beggar, you're taking the same approach I did because, again, I'm not on the list, but I'm not a safety-sensitive position, but I do have access to information. And so is that safety-sensitive? And ultimately, I mean, Bryce and I went around and around with this until Lisa stepped in to give us some clarity or make it more confusing. I don't know. But ultimately, I was in the position, let's just test everybody. I'm not opposed to that. But at the same time,

Yeah, I have legal concerns because we can only randomly test people in safety-sensitive positions. We can't just go and randomly drug test everyone unless it's DOT.

I'm a veteran. I'm former military. I was tested all the time. So it's just standard practice for me.

But basically office staff, things like that, are not considered safety-sensitive and are not subject to...

It seems like the city council is making very important safety-sensitive decisions and ought to be sober to do it.

Just send us your results.

You can voluntarily send us your own drug tests.

I'm happy to comply, but I do think I'm not too worried about any of you, so I guess I'm going to...

Just don't send in the sample for us to test. Get the test done and send the test results.

I'm just curious what the reasoning behind the GIS administrator was as far as the vehicle and he's driving around The two positions that I questioned was the GIS specialist and the emergency manager because the emergency manager is is also just administrative assistant in terms of the job description. But we checked on that one, and actually that position handles the evidence room, which would be controlled substances.

So that one also is clearly.

But we did have a recommendation that we add custodians. And based on my analysis, I think we could add custodians. So if you'd like to add that to the list, that was requested this week. or suggested that we add custodians. Right now we're contracting for those services, but they certainly use chemicals, you know, and could be considered.

Wouldn't that, if we're doing it third party, wouldn't that requirement fall on the...

Yes, I'm just saying if we decide to hire an employee, yeah, right now it wouldn't be in effect, but for the future if we ever hire, they would at least be on the list and we wouldn't have to remember to amend it. I don't think that would be a good thing.

I do too. Yeah, I don't think that's a bad idea. Okay, good.

I'll add that. Oh, it's already there. Is there anything else?

So I have a question and a comment. Well, maybe they're both more comments. But first, Lisa, I am concerned about subsection 8, the opportunity to provide information Section what? Sorry. Section 8. This is the one that is opportunity to provide information that allows the donor to provide notification of any information the donor considers relevant to the test, including prescription and non-prescription drugs. And it says that it's in compliance with the ADA, but provide that information to whom? Because as an employer, I do not want information about my employee's medical condition any more than I absolutely have to have. So when I typically draft drug and alcohol policies, I'll have a medical review officer who is designated to receive that information so that they can analyze

whether that person has a valid prescription not valid prescription they're like the gatekeeper so that information is not being provided directly to my employer i agreed and so i've been working with bryce and bethany to find out i'm hoping that the company that we contract with does the consent form and does this because you're absolutely right we don't want that information this is just as required by law as a local governmental this is the

that's the language that they use okay well this is dumb language but i know but so it's not mine that's fine i just i think from a practical standpoint when we contract with a company to provide these services we should build in if they have a medical review officer that is the person that the employee should be giving that information to i as an employer do not want it

Right. And that's what we're talking about. Hopefully they do that and it's right there and it's part of their forms. And, you know, we just by law have to provide the employee the opportunity. And I agree with you. We don't necessarily want that information. So. It's in there, but I agree. And then we have to decide. If they don't have the form, my suggestion is to prepare the form and give it to them and request that they use a Utah-qualified local governmental entity form

um for us and i suspect they would do that great okay you're already on the same page i just i read that and was like oh nope i want an mro thank you so much um and then i will just point out so medical marijuana is a really interesting thing right it's permissible under state law it's still illegal under federal law unlike most drugs if you test somebody right when i go in and i take a drug test If I am on cocaine or I am on methamphetamines and I go in right then to be drug tested, I mean, if I have metabolites in my system, I have taken drugs, right? Medical marijuana is different. I could have taken it a week ago and shown up to work and be totally fine, but when I'm tested, they don't have a test that's developed yet that makes that distinction. So it creates problems. So, I mean, we can certainly recognize it, but I think that employees need to know, like, if you take medical marijuana the night before and then you show up and you're showing symptoms that may be attributable to something else, but you go get tested and you show that you're positive, I as an employer am not going to be able to distinguish, oh, you took medical marijuana last night and now you're fine and it's caused by something else.

And hopefully the MRO could... You know, it's part of that, but you're right.

I'm just telling you that it's a hard one. Like that is a hard one to administer. And I think that the burden is in a lot of cases on the employee in that case.

Well, and that's where it's going to be very difficult. If you are in a safety-sensitive position, you probably can't use that medical marijuana because you are subject to random testing. But if you're in the front office, the only way we're going to test you is if there's reasonable suspicion or our periodic where we actually tell you. We also, by law, can say we're going to do a test next week. But, you know, so front office personnel, probably not as much. But yes, safety sensitive. That could be a problem.

I just I point that out just because I think sometimes people think if they have a medical marijuana card, they're home free, right? Like it's like a valid prescription. And the problem is, is that the testing is not that fine yet. And so it does create I mean, I think there are employees who come in that maybe took it the night before that come in and are perfectly fine. They're not under the influence at all, but their drug test will still show. that they have taken it. And I, you know, until the testing gets better, I don't know how employees deal with that other than.

But that's good to know on the practical side as well, because it could also be addressed by the city with, you know, what discipline do we do? Because maybe if it's medical marijuana, it's not a zero tolerance, you know. So. That's all I have.

Okay.

We will need to prepare a cheat sheet for this. I understand it's very technical, but I did want to comply with the law because I think drug and alcohol testing implicates a lot of different areas and privacy and other things, so it's a little technical.

Thank you, Lisa. Any more questions for Lisa? If not, we have...

document in front of you that we need a resolution on do you want a motion or a motion excuse me i will move that we approve resolution number 2026-22 amending section 9.010 the drug and alcohol testing ordinance for centerville personnel policies regarding drug and alcohol testing to comply with state law amendments and to designate safety sensitive positions subject to random drug and alcohol testing you have a second

I'll second. Second, Councilman Palmer.

Further discussion?

Councilwoman Hurst.

Aye.

I forgot your name. I've gone so long. Aye. Come to the right. Aye. Aye.

And I'm going to say really nicely done, Lisa. Aye. There were a lot of things that you had to piece together to put this into a comprehensive ordinance, so nice work.

Thank you.

Bryce and I thought this was going to be super easy. Right, Bryce? We're like, just name some positions. Then we get up to Lisa and it's like, all right, we'll see it in a year. I'm just kidding. She got it knocked out pretty good. But it's so amazing to have Lisa and the in-depth just to protect the city. It's so awesome. So, thank you. Thank you, Lisa.

And for the record, that motion passes unanimously, 5-0. Okay, let's go to... Number five, this is a fifth sales tax option. And maybe some of you heard about it and maybe some of you hadn't. How I'm going to approach this is I was having to catch up with it over a period of three or four days by text while I was overseas with all the other mayors. We normally, something like this we normally would see at a cog meeting. but the commissioners elected to do their own little meeting on it, and we found out those dates, and I wasn't able to go, but some of the mayors were. Fortunately, Brant was able to go, so I'm gonna let him explain what was discussed in the meeting. He's laughing because I'm not letting him out. Before you guys comment, I'm gonna say, and after he responds what happened in the meeting, I will fill you in on the go back and forth between that we had as mayors and some of the discussion that we had on this as well too, and what my feeling on it as well too. But basically you'll see a letter in there as well too. You know, I think the commissioners are struggling. My understanding is one is in favor and one is not and one is going to go whatever the other one goes. But I don't know. I shouldn't speak for them. So anyway, it's something that you're not voting on. We're just making you aware of it that the commissioners or the three county commissioners are voting on it. Is that fair enough or do you want me to go in more detail?

No, I'm happy to set it up, Mayor, and then you can take it from there. Two weeks ago, the mayors and city managers were invited to a meeting with the county commissioners regarding this fifth local sales tax option. I honestly wasn't aware of what this was until the meeting happened.

In fairness to Brent, the mayors weren't either until, many of them until, yeah. until we heard about the meeting.

So what the state legislature did was carve out this potential option, sales tax option, that cities or counties could tap into, that cities could generate some revenue for transportation related projects. And there was a lot of discussion, I believe, at the state legislature this past year trying to figure out what it can fund, because at first it was just transportation projects. There's some conversations happening for the 2034 Olympics and how we prepare for that with transportation. So how do we generate some revenue to start putting in some transportation-related projects in the state? Now, what they did is they created this local sales tax option that counties must adopt on behalf of their counties that cities then could generate revenue from. So there was some discussion. So this happened. The imposition was through September 30th, 2029. It begins October 1st, 2029. So the impetus and the need to discuss it now is Weber County essentially approved this last month. which triggers and kind of forces davis county to figure out if we want to do it because it goes through twenty twenty nine but the longer you wait the less revenue you potentially can generate so davis county needs to make a decision by october first twenty twenty six and whether or not we're going to impose this point two percent sales tax or talking twenty cents on a hundred dollar purchase throughout the county. And you can see the breakdown here, Jennifer, thank you for putting that up. 0.05%, so five cents on $100 purchase would go to the cities. 10 cents would go to, determined by the county legislative body so they can divvy it up to cities, they can give it to UTA, they can figure out where they want to put that 0.10%. And then the county gets 0.05% for their projects. Now the 0.1%, 0.05 goes to transit. So potentially dealing with UTA, Casper and Bangor, potentially some front runner money, those types of things so we could focus on those mass transportation type projects. So this is where the county is, uh... unsure of how to proceed we were counting said yes we're on board but we have three county commissioners who do not feel the same way right now and they're unwilling or unable to make that decision we have one commissioner who's all for it so in sitting in this meeting bunch of us cities there I'll just share it because it was public meeting. Commissioner Stevenson's in favor of this and saying, why wouldn't we do this? It's another sales tax option, which is generating by people's purchases. This is a great resource. If we turn this down, one city manager made the argument, if we turn this down, then will the state legislator be less likely to give us these tools to generate revenue to help with our infrastructure? Transportation's probably our most expensive infrastructure projects we're going to deal with for the next decade. Davis County is a fast-growing county, in all honesty, right? So we need transportation funding to keep up with all these demands that we have. And Commissioner Kamala, she has her hesitations, but she can go either way. And Commissioner Croft is, heck no, we're not, I don't want to do this. So that's where they're running right now. So one city manager asked the question of, do you need a letter of support from us cities if we support the idea to encourage you to do the right thing? and and vote for this commissioner stevenson said yes letters for the great so far because i submitted theirs and so our example is from farming to letter they submitted and so that's what's before today whether or not we support this to encourage our county commissioners to either be in favor of this again if you're opposed to it we don't need to submit a letter they are on the fence of considering putting it on the ballot which i think would actually not be a good idea to put on the ballot. I think you've been given the leadership. You've been given the role and the authority to make the decision on behalf of the county. Putting on the ballot, I think, creates some more confusion and misunderstanding what it means. So what was presented, and I don't have the form because they only had so many, is that this would potentially generate $236,000, $238,000 for Centerville City annually for the next three years. So...

And that would be the 5%. So there could be other monies available to Centerville that we could apply for. That would be through the counties.

But the city gets that 5%. For sure.

Yeah, the county can't say you don't get this.

Yeah. It comes directly to us. You guarantee that and maybe some additional depending on how they divvy it up.

Mayor, did I do okay?

You did great. Okay. Yeah, thanks. Very good description, Brad. Thank you. So in taking it further, my discussion by text over the period of Dietz was theoretical. Some mayors were saying, no, I ran on a platform of I'm not going to raise taxes at all. Other mayors were saying, I understand what you're saying. We also have a responsibility to take care of our roads and infrastructure. And this is an opportunity to get money for that purpose for the roads through this. And then I started thinking about it. I'm going back and forth. I haven't seen the whole thing yet. For the most part, I was being positive about it. But these things always have a way, in my opinion, of getting out of control. The third quarter sales tax, which is a great sales tax for new road infrastructure projects. Whenever we haven't submitted a bid to that, I'm on the committee that goes out, and my whisper with three or four other mayors, they're saying, this project that's been submitted by X city, it's not... It's not ready to go. They're trying to get funds to give to a developer to help put curb and gutter in and everything else. And they're going beyond. It just sickens me sometimes how we've taken a risk away. from developers and builders and what we're willing to give them. So this on the surface sounds great, but does it evolve to something like that? But then at the same time, I mean, I'm all in favor of it, but then I think we got, as I said to Brad today, you got to save your residents. Well, We got this much for roads, so we're going to do better not raising our property taxes for your roads. And so you got a hold of that. We just can't continue to ask and ask and ask for money. But I like this way of asking for money, like one of the mayors said, for my projects, a lot better than raising their property taxes. So those were the theoretical discussions that were going back and forth, but as with any policy, it can be abused, and I think that third quarter sales tax has a little bit by some cities. I'm proud to say I don't think we ever have when we've ever submitted a project, so I think it's been uh you know pad ready to go but some cities the projects they submitted I said, no way. I mean, let's just let the developer laugh all the way to the bank how much we're helping them out on this project and eliminating the risk. So that's kind of the discussion that went back and forth between us. And like I said, about half of the mayors weren't even aware it was there. We were upset that, hey, why isn't it coming to COG? Because usually we discuss these at COG. But they decided to go that route with it. Fortunately, Brant got there and some of the other city managers and mayors did as well, too. So that was the exposure I had to it over the last couple weeks. And so when I saw this letter, you know, I wasn't there at that meeting, but that sounds like one of the commissioners had asked for it. So any questions or had any of you heard about it before?

I have a question. Now, you said that, so correct me if I'm wrong, it's going to sunset in 2029?

Yeah. So that's, it's a three-year approval. So it's not as if it continues forward. It can generate revenue for three years. So if you bring that one slide back up, Jennifer, it shows that imposition through September 30th, 2029. Beginning of, okay.

Does the collection operate differently than a RAPtox? No, it's the same 50-50.

It's the same 50-50 distribution, point of sale as well as population. So it's the same distribution.

Are there any counties other than Weber that have adopted this?

I'm not aware. That was all that was brought up. Again, I was just exposed to it two weeks ago, so I've looked into it, but I'm only aware of Weber right now.

The reason that I say that is because the letter is drafted to say Davis County residents pay this tax in other counties when our residents...

So Weber County, so if our residents, if you go to Slackwater Pizza in Ogden, right, you're paying, well, food's not on there.

That's why I asked if there were multiple counties.

I'm sure there'll be other counties. I can't remember if Salt Lake had adopted this. But again, if our residents are shopping there, they're paying that amount and supporting them. So we need to take advantage of it.

You say county or counties.

Yeah, this is just a wordsmithing thing for me. Sure, okay. To be more precise, would be Davis County residents will pay this tax and other counties who have adapted this when they visit other counties. I just... It made it feel like there were more than just Weber County, and so I wondered if I was missing something. I suspect you're right, Brant. I suspect other counties are going to adopt this too.

Back to that last slide. I don't understand. It starts, begins October 1st, 2029. It's imposed through September 2029. I believe that should say 2026.

I wondered about that too. There you go. Okay.

So beginning October 1st, 2020. Beginning 26th.

October 1st, 2026. That's what I would think that would be. But that's why we have to adopt it by October 1st, 2026, because it runs for three years.

And it will run for three years, and then no matter what, it is going to...

I wouldn't say no matter what. I think the state legislature can adopt other or continue it forward. So I'm just saying that what you're approving now is more like what the county's approving is for this three-year run, right? Okay.

How did you feel other cities were going to...

Oh, you had a lot of support. Sunset Mayor was, why wouldn't we do this? Layton, Clearfield, Farmington. I mean, it sounded like the majority of the cities in the room were saying that.

What about Bountiful West, Bountiful Woods Cross?

Well, yeah, Mayor Romney was sitting next to me, and he was, he actually wasn't, He's pretty direct with the county commissioners, basically saying, where's the love? Like, we're kind of in a weird place where we used to have a great relationship with the county. This is a good thing. What are you doing? Mayor Romney. Mayor Romney's great. He spoke his mind. But, yeah, Wes Bountiful.

He's one of those I've whispered with on the tours when we looked at projects.

But, yeah, Mayor Romney's like, for sure, why wouldn't we do the same thing? I don't know Mayor Westergaard, what his position was. I can't remember if he spoke up.

In our text thread, not all the mayors were getting involved, maybe eight or nine of them, but there was only one that wasn't thrilled about it. The others were saying, yeah.

In a way, we're just jumping on and helping make the county commissioner's job easier. They can push it on us instead of having to stand up for what they, you know. we don't have to give them a letter right but i'm just saying giving them a letter we are just we are helping them i i i'm 50 50 on it too i concerned where we're already raising taxes this year to add more to it but yet i like it i think it's a fairer tax than property tax i like that it's a use tax but it's you know those who spend less are going to get taxed less um

I also, I probably will still continue to stand by. I think we need to continue to find ways to fund our roads because I think that is going to be a really big challenge for us if we do not continue to really keep pushing at that and making sure that we are funding those, what we're doing to, you know, the expectation on how long a road lasts. This is a good way to help with some of that.

But I would want to tell staff that if this is something that passes I'm not gonna probably pass more for the roads next year.

I mean if we're getting this It's not This and that yeah, it's not this and that But there is not supported and I do prefer something like this much over property tax but fair amount of our property of our sales taxes in Centerville come from outside the city Walmart Home Depot some of those places drop residents outside of Centerville so it's them who are helping us pay for our road stuff I like that and it's good because they're using the roads too I mean now they are typically using a lot of you dot roads coming in and out but but still they are using some of our roads and so I think that's it's a fair it's a fair tax

Well, as soon as one county adopts it, it sort of sets off a domino for the same reasons that are stated in this letter. Why should our residents go to another county and they get the benefit of our residents paying, you know, shopping there, and then when they come here, if we don't adopt this, then we get no reciprocity. We don't get the help. We get no benefit out of it. So it feels like as soon as one county does it, it's like, yeah. Anyway, I'm supportive. Yeah, I am too.

I agree. I think that with Weber doing this already, it really puts us in a position where we need to do the same for our, and I think it is for our residents because we have a lot of regional commercial locations that people from outside the county, yes, people come from outside the city, but I think they even come from outside the county at times for a lot of our commercial businesses, Lagoon being a prime example.

That would be an out of state, like we get people from out of state at that venue.

I have some great help out there. We've done some research. So according to Andrew Gruber, who's our director of our Wasatch Front Regional Council, he's made a statement. Salt Lake, Summit, Weaver have adopted this. Utah, sorry, Utah, Salt Lake, Summit, Weaver.

Well, then it is accurately stated there. Yeah.

So we're in the middle, and we haven't adopted it. Everybody else has it except for us. Along the Wasatch Front. Yeah. Well, the Wasatch Fabric Summit, but yeah.

But two of the three biggest counties, three going along the line, Utah, Salt Lake, Davis, not yet, Weber, yes. Yeah, so the whole Wausau is front.

And if our commission chooses not to put us in and do this tax, and 2034 rolls around and Everybody's getting everywhere really nice, and then they drive through Davis County.

Right.

Could be some problems. Good point. Look, it could be embarrassing, quite frankly.

I generally call that, it's a great economic development tool. Congestion will cause people to stop at Walmart and Target and spend money. Because, like, ah, it's traffic. I'm going to go spend some money at In-N-Out. I think that could be a driver.

I'm getting off of the freeway and taking a break.

How do I get off the freeway here?

Yeah.

All right, so there's no, we just, we wanted to bring that to you. I mean, it sounds like, I mean, I'm not looking for a motion on this or anything, but we brought it to you. You've expressed your opinions.

Mayor, I think a motion would be helpful for sending a letter on behalf.

I guess just looking at the letter, yeah. That's a good point. If we weren't sending a letter, then it would just be for your information. So with there being a letter, yeah, somebody could come up with some type of motion.

All right. Just before we do that, looking because Council Member Heyman brought up the actual language in the letter. And I have read it once, and it's kind of, it's cordial enough, but maybe we need a little bit more. I think that they need to, the commission actually needs to understand that we want them to take leadership on this and do the right thing for the community. the people that what they feel is the right thing for the county and maybe this is correct and maybe i just need to write my own letter uh... american can work with mayor romney to get the language that uh... i think there's some level professionalism in the letters and i think that uh... that is true but i i i I'm frustrated with the commission not being able to work together as much as it has in the past. And so I think this can help showing that there is a support for this. And that being said, we're putting ourselves out there and when they don't pass it, or if they don't pass it, I don't know. It puts us in an awkward position with the commission, maybe, a little bit.

Well, one commissioner in particular, and maybe the other one too, maybe they're wanting to see what the people decide. That's why they want on the ballot. That's a...

I think a... I think it's not a very brave way of going about it. I think that they should step forward and make the decision based upon what they've been elected to do.

I agree. Yeah.

So do you want to change the letter or not?

No, I brought it up. I just wanted to say that I think it is professional and it's probably exactly what needs to be said. But I think maybe a little bit of my frustration is leaking out in that I feel like they need to be Um, told with some strong words, do the right thing and stop. Pickering back and forth.

So we want to make a motion.

I'll make a motion. Um, I will say, I do think the last paragraph is pretty succinct and it is professional. It does say, you know, We think you should do this by legislative decision-making, which I think is probably about as strong as you could probably say that. But I'll make a motion that we send this letter in support of the local option sales tax to the Davis County Commissioner signed by the Mayor.

Second.

All right. All in favor, aye. Aye. Opposed? Sounds unanimous. All righty. let's go to item number six this division water resources grant for transparent water billing and community communication platform with yapify uh and um bryce has been working on this and you have that grant in front of you are you walking up here to talk

Tell us more about it. I don't have any walk-up music for you, Bryce. I should get some of those.

Am I the only one who ever smiles every time she sees Yopify? I mean, how did they come up with that name, Yopify?

Should we sing for you? No. Okay. Yopify. I mean, yeah. Yopify.

I know.

Maybe it was already for everyone. Yeah, we've been working on this grant with Yopify to potentially get some funding to pay for this platform that we've been Working on to be more transparent about water leaks, communication with the public, just communications in general. One thing I liked about this proposal was it's a three year grant that will pay for half of the funding. Yeah, any questions? I was gonna show you one feature I do like that Jennifer can pull on the screen. So within Yopify, if you click on the little button on the bottom right, this is something that we wanted with the website, but we couldn't afford, but now is included with Yopify, where it has a feature where you can click on these different buttons. And this is going to be a mechanism how we make sure people's information is up to date. So you'll be able to update your contact information by clicking that thing. asking some prompts. We'll be able to put more notices about upcoming events. People could subscribe to notifications if they want to. If you click on submit a request, Jennifer, it will go to report an issue. This is another way you can report an issue. Or if you go to ask a question, this is the built-in chat bot where we'll add information that will connect into the website and give people a better way to find information. One of the reasons we like this platform and we vetted it through, we did a couple demos with a couple different companies. We felt like this was the best opportunity to kind of experience it because multiple other cities are using this same platform. And then we had multiple staff members in this process as well, finance, public works, myself, and other communications players within the city. One thing that I just wanted to mention is specifically creating customized communications to citizens about potential water leaks that they may have that are tied to their water bill, but then also working with them when we have city projects or water line breaks, we'll be able to specifically geofence or draw a circle around a map and we'll be able to text, email, and if they don't answer any of those, I'll actually send them a postcard in the mail saying, hey, look, we didn't receive any notification or you didn't open your email or a text, can you make sure your information is up to date with the city so you can be notified?

I'm trying to understand. So is Yuppify going to have their own map or are they going to use our map? How does that work?

Yeah, so they just have like a, they input all the addresses through our system and then they just kind of have a map that we use on the back end. It's not something the public's going to see.

Okay. And so are they so this is a third party. They're going to store residents information in a database on their site. So are they how is that going to be protected? I mean, with so much going on with other companies that collect data, this is concerning. The more data that's out there, the more opportunity is to lose it. So it's just one more thing that I feel like we're putting more information out there. How is this? I mean, I don't have the specific answer for that, but I can get back to you.

I mean, we're not the first city to put, use this platform.

Well, I know we're not the first, but I don't want to be the first to lose data either. So...

Yeah, and I think the Data Privacy Act does bring up some of those issues and obligations of the city. So, number one, we have to notify that we're collecting that information and, yeah, have a plan of how to protect it.

But it's the third party that we're... That's really the... And we put a lot of... We say, yes, you're going to be responsible for this, but... we really don't have the ability to ensure that that's going to happen the way we might want to see it happen.

And that's the dilemma we're faced with, right? There's a couple of things that are happening here. There's demands to be more communicative with the residents. And there's tools to do so, and this is one of the tools. And if the concern is privacy, then we're less communicative with our residents and businesses. So it's this trade-off that you have to find the balance of what we're willing to do to communicate better with the residents and be more succinct in how we communicate with the residents, right? When we have a water leak, we say there's a water leak on your street, but we're notifying all residents in Centerville there's a water leak on your street. This will allow us the access to just notify the people that are dealing with a water outage without water, those 29 houses. So it could be very pinpointed saying, look, and you can give them the information, the details they need that the rest of the city doesn't care about.

I care if my neighbors in the south or in the north end of town don't get water.

You might. But that's the problem with social media is if you're posting things every five minutes, you become numb.

Nobody's paying attention.

Nobody's paying attention. So you want the social media, the main platform, to be those big things. And this will allow us to be a little bit more detailed. So again, as a council, you have to decide what level, because these are the tools necessary or available to us to help us communicate with our residents.

As far as the information that is going into this database. It's name, address.

Name, address, phone number, email.

Okay. I will say this. Brian, I totally respect what you're saying, and of course I agree with Lisa. We've got to make sure we follow the privacy laws. I mean, I just got my 999th letter from some medical office that has somehow lost my date. Like they have way more information and I'm not kidding. I mean, I had cancer, so I don't even know who some of these offices are, but I get letters all the time. Sorry, we had a breach in our data. And I'm like, Can we get them to be held accountable? Because that's more frustrating to me than this. I'm not saying that you're not right.

This really isn't any more information than what we put in phone books for years and years and years. In fact, I have some old Centerville phone books that list your mom and your dad and all of their children and what the dad does. If you'd like me to bring one of those, I'd be glad to, because I do have some of them.

We probably have one here. I mean, there's... You're right, Councilman Hickam, but it wasn't as easy to breach that data as now some hacker, boom, takes it all. They had to go around to the communities and get the phone book. But you answered some of my questions. Brian, Councilman Palmer, I agree with your concerns. But I guess if it's name, address, phone number, email, then we pretty much have that almost from everybody else. Maybe not their email, but because we send them utility bills. My question would be, are we going to release that Yopify without their permission?

Right. So we would get a permission before. We'd have to get permission. Yeah. So we would contact all the residents. This is a process. It's not going to be like an overnight thing, because our information isn't completely up to date in our system. Sometimes we have mobile, sometimes we don't. So it's going to be a process through newslettering, through public events, through a lot of different ways to say, hey, can you update your information? Would you like to opt in or opt out? And people are going to be able to choose. But we're also going to hold people accountable for the people that opt out and let them know, hey, look, you opted out. Brian Plummer said, I don't want to be contacted when there's a water line break.

So when I call up and say, why didn't I get notified, you're going to say, tough luck. Tough luck.

I'm just kidding. That's not what we're going to say. Because you didn't Yopify. I mean, we'll find other ways to do our best to communicate if you're opting out, but that will depend on the success rate or opt-in rate that we have, right?

I think that's going to take some time. So there are going to be times where we're going to have a waterline break and we're going to be able to test this out and we're going to be able to hit 10 homes. And hopefully within 10 homes, people will say, hey, look, I got the notification. And then we'll spread and say, hey, look, you need to make sure you're up to date and make sure people know that this is a trusted platform and that we're trying to really do our best to educate them on what's going on with their water bills or with water line breaks or with construction projects happening in the neighborhood. That's the intent. It's just to make sure that we're giving them one.

My request would be, because obviously, over the three years, $5,000 and some change is not, in the grand scheme of things, a lot of money. It seems like a good investment to at least try this. So if we are going to go through this process of using the grant money and trying this, can we have some sort of report or some statistics so that by the end of maybe one, two, and third year that we know what has been, how many people have been participating, how effective it has been, and then when they choose to raise the amount on us in year four, because they will, they're gonna raise it from 10,000 to 15,000, we know that this is a good investment or it's not a good investment and we can either say, yay, we're gonna go with it, or we're not.

Yeah, absolutely. Data's going to tell the story. And so, yeah, we'll have the ability to run the reports. I can even send you quarterly reports or monthly reports. We have the ability to do all that kind of stuff in the system. So if you want to see those types of numbers, you'll be able to see them. The back end is pretty amazing. So when my public works guys say that they like it, then I know it must be pretty good.

It seems like a really good tool. This is impressive, what you just showed.

Bryce, can I ask? It says here that communication is allowed in general to residents. But beyond water and whatnot, which the grant would include, could we include an area where maybe there's a planning commission issue or item or discussion to let them know?

Yeah, so if you click on that View Notices button, this is just another way to hit people.

Which one?

Go back. Here you have to have you notices. So this would be another way to inform residents about potential.

Oh, that's nice as well.

So we could notify them that there's a consideration of it.

Yeah, there's no danger. Also, and then if you look on the main page, if you haven't been our main page of the website, there's a big blue menu bar that talks about the property tax increase right there at the top. So we have the ability to really Informed the public, another great example, if you scroll to the bottom, the property tax increase there is there at the upcoming events. And then if you scroll all the way to the bottom, it's there as well. So, I mean, we're hitting three different locations. People have got to... at least do some due diligence to it.

They could do some work. This is going to be on our web page embedded in, right? So when we're looking at East Fork, it'll be CentervilleUtah.gov and all of these functions.

So it's like an overlay on the website we already have.

I mean, I am the village idiot this way, so I just wanted to clarify.

And Bryce, can you tell us some cities that we might know that have done it?

Laverkin's on it right now. Hurricane. I'd have to go back and look at my list. There's a few. Jordan Valley Water.

Jordan Valley Water, yeah.

Was this a grant that any city could apply for with water resources?

Yeah, you all can probably just help us do some. Good job, Bryce. I mean, it's not 17,000, I think, total? Yeah. It's pretty awesome. It's a decent amount.

Yeah.

I know that this is a really burning question, but Yopify is a playful play on words, combining an exclamation or sound like yop with the popular text suffix iffy, meaning to terrify, meaning to make or turn into cleverly echoing major SAAS naming conventions like Shopify. So you are correct. The name reflects a tool built to make yapping, or sending quick direct notifications and alerts, fast and easy for folks like us.

And they're making it almost like a verb, right? Like, yeah, it's a Google something.

So anyway, I just had to look that up because it was funny.

So I know we keep adding a lot of different softwares, but I know that also that There's a number of us here that said one of their big things was in the agenda for the residents was communication.

Yeah.

And it's a communication tool. None of us have gone out and found anything better necessarily. That's why it's attractive to me.

I continue to be impressed with all of our staff looking for grant opportunities. I don't know of a city that does a better job of looking for that type of resource, so nice work, Bryce.

Yeah, I mean, there'll be a lot of players in this game. It's not just going to be one person that's using this software. We're going to have Public Works. We're going to have myself. We'll have Haley. We'll have Finance. There will be a lot of different players that will be involved in this process, and having the ability to do it for three years kind of gives you that historical year after year after year, just data. So hopefully in year four we can say, yeah, this was a great success. We'll all be looking for a new job in year four.

Or we might just find a different communication tool if it doesn't work.

I think it's huge in improving communication with our residents, and I'm supportive. I'll make a motion to approve the Division of Water Resources grant. for transparent water billing and community communication platform with Galpify.

Second.

Motion and second. Councilman Plummer going to the right. Aye. Aye. Aye.

Aye. Aye.

That passes unanimously. Thank you. Thanks, guys. All right. Some reaction. Yeah, that's where I thought I'd maybe missed one. So we have community park restroom purchase and purchase emergency responder radio communication system. Any questions on either of those?

A prefab.

They're so cool. A restroom. I just saw one on the road the other day.

Oh, you did?

Being transported. Such a cool idea.

Smart idea. I'll make a motion that we approve the purchase of a prefabricated restroom with mounted drinking fountain for Community Park from CXL in the amount of $102,819 and that we approve the purchase of the emergency responder radio communication system for City Hall in the amount of $48,837.

We got a second there.

Did I say it wrong?

CXT.

CXT. I apologize. That's my bad. Sorry. That's okay. I'm glad we corrected it. So we're getting this all sorted.

Was this in the budget? Yes. It is? Okay. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.

all righty thank you let's go to minutes review and approval from august 4th 2026 city council is there any changes to any of those minutes do i have a motion to approve them then so moved second all in favor aye aye opposed

Thank you. Financial report, July 31, 2026.

Go ahead.

The radio.

We already approved it.

We did.

I mean, come up and chat if you want, but it's approved.

I just did them both, Chief.

Should there be questions, Chief? We kind of got the...

The gist of it in the RDA.

I think the RDA kind of helped to just clarify that that one was going through.

OK. Monthly financial report, as always, Nate has in there highlighted areas for you to look at. This is not one that we have in report on, whether or not being a quarterly report, but we give to you for your, so you have the information. But he's there if there's any questions on any of those highlighted areas or other areas. If not, then thank you, Nate, for providing that again for us on a monthly basis in your team. Council report from Council Member Heyman.

So I really don't have much to update. Now we've got some good feedback, I think, on the pump track. So we'll go back and talk about that in terms of location. But I don't have anything else to bring. to the City Council for trails and for mosquitoes. Really, we just continue to move forward on the new building that we're working on and we continue to kill mosquitoes. So I wish I had more exciting updates for you there, but I don't. So that's all I have, Mayor.

Thank you. Alaska.

Alaska. Do we have much West Nile right now? No, although we do have the earliest report of West Nile that Utah has ever had before, sadly. And it was not here. It was in Moab. I want to say it was in Moab. But anyway, June. June has been the earliest detection that we've ever had of West Nile virus in state history. So I think with the warmer weather and such, it's just continuing to grow. That's it. That's all I got.

Thanks. OK. Mayor's report. So I appreciate all of you, and especially Councilmember Mecum for being mayor pro tem for a couple meetings. She also filled in for me at a fire board meeting and I felt very comfortable letting her go and I didn't even follow up on her, but I did follow up on her. I did look to see what they decided in that meeting. So she probably reported back to you what was decided that day. But thank you for doing that. Anything else from uh filling in a fire board uh while he's gone i don't think so okay um uh and we were supposed to have one yesterday but uh we didn't so um uh so thank you um uh councilmember meekum for that uh wasatch integrated waste management they they did not meet While he's gone, we meet next week, so I'll fill you in on what's happening there. LPC meetings are going to be starting up. I noticed that they're going on the road with them, and they're going to Saratoga Springs first, and maybe I'll join by Zoom. And then I realized, man, we've had it lucky. We have it right here in North Salt Lake or at the Capitol. But I guess they've decided to go on the road. So start gearing up for monthly meetings before we go to our weekly meetings with LPC. Now, some things coming ahead. Remind you of the monthly Episcopal dinner tomorrow night. The county is doing their general plan tomorrow night between 5.30 and 7, if anybody's interested. And noon LPC on the 24th. And then truth in taxation a week from tonight. starting at 6 o'clock as well. So there's some things coming up that you need to be aware of. Kay, the last thing, a little quiz for you. Who knows what beef feeders are?

They're those British.

Very good.

That's right.

I saw them. They're those British guys. The Beefeaters are the famous ceremonial guardians of the Tower of London, officially called the Yeoman Warders. They guard the fortress, protect the crown jewels, and lead popular historic tours for visitors. So I was in London a couple of days, and we went to one of those tours by one of the Beefeaters. They actually do live on premise in the Tower of London, which is basically London's castle. So they still live there. And of course, the crown jewels are there. And you can walk through and see the crown jewels. Last time they were out of there was three years ago when King Charles got sworn in. And so they have a pivotal role. Well, this particular bee feeder, while he was doing our tour, he had a good sense of humor as well, too. And quite a few of us were Americans. And he said, when did World War II start? For you Americans, it did not start in 1941. He said, it started in 1939. And he says, but we're grateful to you, Yanks, for coming to help out. But realize that it wasn't just you guys. There were combined forces. There was the British. There was the French. There was the American. And I thought, yeah, but they were led by General Eisenhower. But it was a great tour. And it made me start thinking of the relationship that's important to have with other countries. Over the years, I mean, how many times, sure we split from the British, but how many times did the British help us? How many times did the French help us? With wars down in the southern states and that sort of thing. So we have a responsibility to be good neighbors, not only to our neighbors in Centerville, but good neighbors with people around the world because After all, you know, we all have a mother and a father and have the same emotions and feelings that every one of us. The last thing he said is he said to us in jokingly, he says, yeah, and you Americans, this could have all been yours as well, too, the Tower of London, but it's not. So he was proud of what he did and what he does for his country. So I just wanted to leave you with that thought. Brett.

All right, thanks, Mayor. The war officially started in 1931, though, when Japan invaded Manchuria, just so you know.

Yeah, maybe he was talking, because there was actually two wars going on, right, in Europe, and that's true.

Good point. Thank you. And Hitler took reign in 1933, so you can say that was in the 1930s. Anyway, sorry, I'm a nerd. So I do want to just emphasize again, Mayor, you brought it up, but I just want to, again, for the record, Tuesday, August 25th 2026 at 6 p.m.

Here Centerville City Hall is our truth and taxation meeting so next week So I just wanna make sure that's on the record How does that are we gonna all be up here as we would be in a council meeting? And it would be much like a public Public hearing yeah, correct just one item on the agenda.

Nothing else will be discussed that night, and I'm sorry this is it 6 6 p.m. 6 p.m. 1800

Does it is it a specific length of time or is it the length of time that is required by the?

however members the public show up and share their thoughts and That's that's the link that could be five minutes could be five hours, okay?

Then just one meal before second I assume there's no meal no no no

And then just want to share Chief Jeff Larson was officially sworn in yesterday. So although he's been acting as chief, he was officially sworn in yesterday. And I think that's all I have. That's all I have listed. I think Mayor said something that I forgot, though. So that's all I have unless there's questions for me. Okay? The one thing I will say is we do have a closed session for tonight. I'm going to add another item to add to the closed session motion is to list the location of this closed session. We had our IRMA at our risk management training. It's important to list that we're going to do a closed session for the specific purpose and the location it's being held. Is there anything else that needs to be on there, Lisa?

Just end the vote?

Yeah. End the vote.

I will move then that we go into closed session for the purpose of discussing the purchase, exchange, or lease of rail property in Centerville City Hall with no intent to return.

I'll second that.

All right. I'll say aye. Aye.