Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

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[Music] [Music] Okay, we're live. Good evening everyone. Like to call this meeting of the regular meeting of the planning commission to order. Ask for a roll call, please. Thank you. Good evening, Chair. Uh, Commissioner Benfield here. Commissioner Van Antworp here, Vice Chair Allen here, and Chair Le Fevers here. And we'll note for the record that Commissioner Moyer is absent. Okay. Thank you. Um, if you would all please stand and join us in the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Any introductions? Uh chair, I I have one and that was just to acknowledge and introduce uh Commissioner Van Antworp as our as our newest addition to the Carpenter Planning Commission. She was appointed by the city council back in January. Uh but since we haven't had a meeting, this is her first time being seated with the commission. So I just wanted to welcome her aboard and and make sure I had a chance to formally introduce her to you. Thank you. It's nice to be here. Yes, I'm grateful. Welcome. Another woman. Thanks, Nick. Okay, we'll keep moving. Uh, now is an opportunity for anybody who would like to address us on items that are not on our agenda tonight. Now's the time for that. So, if there's anybody here in the audience that would like to speak on an item on that's not on the agenda, now is the opportunity. Doesn't look like it. Anybody on Zoom? Uh, thank you, Charlie Fevers. Nobody on Zoom for public comment. Okay, great. Okay, thanks. We'll move forward then to chair. I'm sorry. Just before we do, I just want to acknowledge that you did receive one written public comment letter that would fall under this general public comment items. Okay. Thank you. So noted. General related to the special joint meeting that we had recently. Okay. Um I'd like to move on then to the consent calendar. We have the minutes from our December meeting. Um I guess that was our last meeting, December 2nd. So

um we there's three of us here tonight who were in attendance at that meeting. So, um, those three of us will be be able to, uh, vote on this consent item. Any comments on those minutes? If not, I'll entertain a motion for approval. I move that we approve the minutes of December. December 2nd, uh, 2024. Thank you. Through the chair. Second. Thank you, David. Um and um so we have a motion and a second on the consent calendar item. Um if you weren't present, you can simply abstain. Um and um so I'll ask um call for a a voice vote. All those in favor say I. I. I. I. Opposed. And abstained. You ab. So you want to abstain? Abstain. Thank you. Well done. All right. Moving on to new public hearings. Uh we have uh one item of new public hearings on our agenda tonight. I'll um ask for a staff report here. And I guess I'll start with any do we have any disclosure of exparte communications for this item? This is the um excuse me. This is the uh llama residence remodel and structural alterations. Any disclosures? No. David?

No. Okay. Very good. Well, let's move on to the staff report then. Good evening, Chair Le Fevers, members of the planning commission. Uh this is the Llamas residence remodel and structural alterations project and it is before you tonight because it needs a conditional use permit. Um, it involves an interior remodel to an existing 1,416qt single family residence, including structural alterations, minimal exterior alterations, which include a new dormer or roof vents, and then uh the conditional use permit for the project is necessary because the existing residence is legal, non-conforming due to setbacks, building coverage, and covered parking. So, the property here is at 1082 Elm Lane. So, that's the very top of Elm in between Carpenter Avenue and Sawer. Uh, Carpenter Avenue is down here. Lynon is over here. And it's right here on Elm, the one down from the corner. And then here's a a closer picture. You can see how the um the lot is a very small lot. It's not even 2500 square feet. And so the house takes up most of the lot which is uh about 1,400 square ft of it. And there's open space over here and a little bit in the back but um it's it's one of those very small lots or the normal size house for carp standards. And here's the site plan that'll show you uh what's going on. So basically every portion of the house is in one of the setbacks. So we have the front yard. The blue is the property line. The front yard set back extends here 30 feet in because it's the 50 feet from the center line. And then the rear yard set back is 15 from the rear. So like they meet in the middle of the house. So there is literally no part of this house that's not in a setback. And then here over here there's the 5ft sideyard setback and the house

encroaches over here. And then this is the one setback that the house is not in is the 5ft sideyard setback over here on the other side. This is actually a little open area. Um, but the entire house is in some sort of a setback. So, it's a it's a classic example of legal non-conforming. And the house was originally constructed in 1928. So, it's it's it's been there a while, well before our zoning ordinances were in in play. Um, and so the scope of the work is an interior remodel. Basically, just an update to um, you know, those older homes are very cut up and so they're opening up the walls, relocating the kitchen. The kitchen right now is kind of its own little separate small room here. And they're modernizing by bringing the kitchen in here and then opening up this area. And they're going to vault the ceilings up here. So it'll be nice, you know, more contemporary open open space here. Um the bathroom back here, they're making a little larger so it's more functional. And then um where the kitchen was, they're installing a second bathroom. So it's it's no longer just a two-bedroom, one bath house. It'll be a two-bedroom, two bath house. And then um and then just the the interior updates to to make it a nicer uh living experience. And then the roof plan. Uh here's those little dormers I spoke of earlier. So uh there's three of them and they're just literally vents to help uh meet the title 24 because of the scope of work that's going to be done. And when you vault the ceilings, you have to change your installation around. So um this will be the vaulted and this will be attic. So, it triggers events to comply with our current building code. So, the key objectives and policies are pretty simple tonight. Um, goes back to our land use uh policies and our housing element policies about preserving our housing stock um and preserving our small beach town character, maintaining the the older homes, and then encourage the remodeling

and revitalization of neighborhoods and commercial areas in accordance with the principles in our community design element. And then in our community design element um we have um the objective CD1 talks about the size, scale and form of buildings and their placement on a parcel should be compatible with adjacent near adjacent and nearby properties and where the dominant neighborhood or district development pattern and this is the oldtown downtown area. So you know the architecture of this house is not changing as part of the project and it will continue to be sort of the eclectic character of that neighborhood. Um the architectural designs are based on historic regional building types should be encouraged to preserve and enhance the unique character of the city. Again, this is our typical California vernacular cottage. So it it is in alignment with that objective. And then our housing element uh policies and objectives. Um our program category number four is to conserve and improve the condition of the existing uh stock of affordable housing. And then we have policies about um maintaining and repairing and rehabilitating homes because this is an old 1926 house. So there are some parts, you know, where it's just old and is going to need to have um some upkeep to to keep it nice as part of this project. And so for the conditional use permit, we do have the special findings for the that the continuation or upgrading of the residential unit or units will not have an adverse effect on the surrounding neighborhood. The habitable capacity of the unit or units will not be increased beyond that previously existing. and the shortage of adequate housing within the city justifies the continuation of the non-conforming use and authorization to make improvements necessary to upgrade the living conditions in the unit or units and staff feels like that the project meets these three criteria and that the findings can be made. Um and then just real quick in response to the public comment letter

that you received I just want to share with you that uh the fire department is requiring sprinklers on this project. So the uh water district and the fire department will sort that out between themselves um as the building permit uh goes through the plan check process. And then since this was a interior only project, public works did not have any conditions of approval on it because there was nothing happening in the rightway. And so staff's recommendation is number one to approve the project as presented um and adopt resolution PC25-00002. And then other options for your commission would be to uh direct the applicant to make revisions or to conceptually deny the project. And that concludes my presentation. Perfect. Very efficient. Thank you very much for that staff report. I'll bring it back to the commission and ask if we have questions for staff uh about the project. I go ahead, Commissioner Benfield. What are the setbacks on that street of the other dwelling units? Not the Sansom, but that same street there on Elm Lane or on Sawyer. Elm Elm. Um they would all be the same. So it would they all should be 30t back from the street, which they're all pretty much legal non-conforming on that street. So they're all legal non-con. Okay. Yeah, that's all. Yeah, I think they they were built well before our setbacks existed, right? Right. When our cars weren't 90 ft wide or before cars. Oh, that's true. Okay, then that's all I have. Okay. Um, other questions? Uh, Commissioner Allen, did you have any questions? Uh, no. Thank you. Okay. Commissioner Vantor questions. Okay. I had a couple quick questions. I'll try to not get too carried away

here. Just want to make sure I I'm understanding the scope. So, um the I get it on the interior model the roof the ex. So I have these questions are about the exterior of the structure roof material. Is that being replaced or is the existing remaining? It is remaining. And if it is being replaced will be like for like. I just cheating at my plans real quick. I think the roof is staying. It appears it replaced like by like or it's going to be replaced like by like or no changes. Let me just double check real quick. And I have this perhaps an easier question, but the same question with regards to the wood siding and the wood shingles, the exterior facing. I know they're, you know, opening up and doing insulation. And I I'm just curious if we're if there's a plan, you know, I because the the staff report says that the exterior appearance is going to be the same as it is now. Um and I Yeah. So, um wondering if that's really the case. Sheet A4 shows the structural sections. That might help answer your question a little of how they're going to open up the inside without changing the outside. And it does specify that the um asphalt shingles are going to stay existing. So, they're not proposing to do a new roof at this time. Okay. And the same thing with the walls, the exterior walls. Yes. Okay. And windows. Those are I mean most of them say existing. So, I'm assuming

they're the windows are not being replaced. Is that an accurate assumption? Yes. And if they are replaced, it would be like for like Okay. Okay. Um like same size, same location, same appearance. Same appearance. Exactly. No exterior uh visual changes on the outside. Okay. And again, I'm I'm just trying to make sure I fully understand the scope of what we're approving here because it's a big that's a big project all inside. So I and I get it. I mean, I I understand why what we're trying to accomplish here. I just um sometimes these can turn into a bigger project once you get into the walls. But um yeah. Uh okay. And same for the garage door and the roof on the garage that there's no changes proposed. Um I I basically the shell is going to stay the same and the little dormers are just going to be those little tiny they're not like dormers in the sense of of the large like dormer with a window like you might see on the second story of a house. They're just like vent dormers. They're little half circles. They're probably about this big. Okay. Yeah. Um, and again just confirming the footings. I I see those in the plans. I mean, there's detail for replacement of all this stuff, but the plans actually show that the existing footings are remaining except for the ones that are going to support the the new roof beam. Is that is that accurate? Yes, I believe so. Yes. Yep. Okay. And then and again I apologize for the detail here. I just want to make sure I have clarity. So I think the

last So the house is going to look the same same colors and materials and roof pitches. I get that. Um it's on what's identified on the northern part of the home as a closet that has an exterior door and an interior door. Um there's a looks like a new wall being installed with separation. Um can you explain what that's about? That is because it's the garage and there's something about the garage and the habitable space has to be separated by some sort of a firewall. Why it's not also here, I don't understand why, but that's how it was explained to me that this is uh some sort of new code fire separation requirement. And when it, like I said, when it goes through plan check for the building permit, if they end up also needing that same separation here, then that would have to be added as part of their uh plan check corrections. Okay. And then one other question while you're on that. And um if uh so in the middle of that closet appears to be a new beam uh a vertical beam. Is that for supporting a roof structure? This little part. So the garage actually has a flat roof and this little back part of the house has a pitched roof, right? I noticed. So I think that beam is is showing the beam connect supporting that pitched. So that square number three which is in the middle of the closet right here, that's identified in the plan set as a I believe a beam. Um, so I guess my question is are we rebuilding that? That roof seems a little saggy in that area. But, um, is that Oh, yeah. Maybe they are correcting the beam. I see what you're saying. It's

a proposed beam right here. So, maybe they are uh replacing it. Okay. So, maybe the applicant could speak to the And I was going to say the applicant's here. If you've got further questions, Mark Lis is right here. All right. I um and again I turn it on. Uh just want to make sure we're clear as a commission on um what it is we're we're approving here. So if there's no more questions, I will open the hearing and and recognize the applicant or applicant's representative. I'm assuming that's you. Yes. Good evening, chair and members of the commission. My name is Mark Yamos and I'm here with my father, Alfredo Yamus, and we are owners of the property. Great. Um, you're free to talk about whatever you like regard related to your project if or if if not um if you don't have any additional information you'd like to present. Um, uh maybe you could just clarify a couple questions. Yeah, of course. So, all of the exterior materials, none of that's planned to be replaced. Yeah, as of now, we haven't. Um, again, maybe for the future, if we decide to change the exterior, we can go in with a second submitt of uh any type of changes, but as of now, we're keeping everything the same. Uh, the only things that will change as far as the look possibly or the windows if we put new windows. They would be updated, but again, they'd be like for like, so it' be the same location and same size. Okay. And how about that the single pitch roof that's behind the garage that's a joint that's actually attached to the adjacent home? Is that going to be rebuilt at all? That is going to stay. Um there wasn't any talk when we went through it that we would have to change anything as far as the structure of that pitch. Um it was just adding the

beam that went across to hold that portion of the roof. Uh that was the only change. And all the all that work's going to be done from underneath so that there's no new roofing material on correct. Yeah, it would all be done underneath from the inside. Um, the roof had been replaced by the previous owner uh just a few years ago. So, all the shingles and whatnot, they're all pretty much new in good condition. Okay. And same thing with the the bulk of the footings, the foundation footings, those you don't plan to um as of now, we their only footings that I believe were possibly going to be added were supporting the beams going across. Um the existing we didn't note to change any. Um, they seem to be in fair condition. So, well built, well-built home originally. Yeah, it definitely is. Okay. Thank you very much for answering my questions. Uh, other questions while we have them. Is this a family home? You're going to be living there? Yes. Yes, it's a family home. Uh, so it was primarily supposed to be for myself, but we're going to be using it kind of like as a vacation home. We live in Ventura, so I'd be living there full- time. Yeah. So affluent. You have two houses. I live with my brother. Yeah. It's it's his home in Ventura. But I'm just kidding. That's great. Um, one thing I was going to ask you. Oh, you don't have dry rot from the house being so old? Um, are you talking about like the exterior panels? I'm talking about the in interior. Anything? anything that we've seen, and I'm just being completely honest, it's it appears to be all original wood and and there's no we haven't seen any actual damage. Uh, from what we've been able to see that we haven't torn out the walls or anything like that, but from what we can see, it seems to be completely structurally sound. You're very fortunate. Yeah. Anyway, thank you. Of course.

Um, Commissioner Allen, any questions while we have the applicant captive here? Uh, no. Thank you very much. Okay. All right. Uh, thank you. Thank you. All right. Public hearing is still open. Anybody else out there like to speak on this item? Anybody on Zoom? Uh, nobody on Zoom. Chair Fevers. Okay. I will close the public hearing, bring the item back to the commission for additional discussion, deliberation, and uh a motion. So, let me open it up for uh discussion. Uh, Commissioner Benfield, did you want to start? Sure. I wrote it down. Alterations to this building within the existing footprint and meeting safety requirements seems like an automatic approval to me. I'm surp I'm sorry that they have to jump through so many hoops, but we have those conditional use and zone change things regulations for our own safety and health and safety issues. But expanding and improving your home is great. It's built was built before the zoning laws, so you're not subject to the setbacks until you want to do something to your house. Now parking is being requ uh tandem parking was that an issue at one point because it isn't now really. Um and I think it's improving the neighborhood, improving your life. I think it's a darling little house and I'm glad you're keeping it the way it is mostly and just improving it. And I don't see a downside at all. I applaud your endeavor for fixing up the house and the neighborhood. So I'm for approval of your project.

Thank you. Uh, Commissioner Allen, did you have comments you want to offer? Uh, yes. I would echo Commissioner Benfield's comments and and you know, and simply note again that but for the setback issue. This would not be a project we would be seeing. Uh I'm uh really uh um glad for the applicant that the house is sound and they can go forward. And uh of course if they're they do encounter problems as the chair noted uh you know there there's a potential that they may need to uh you know see uh front desk again and and uh get new permits but uh doubtful that we would see it in that event. Uh so I certainly can make all the findings and uh am uh happy to see them uh move forward with the project. Very good. Thank you. Commissioner Van Antworp comments, questions. Yes. Can you hear me? Okay. Okay. Yeah. Um, I also uh am supportive and I'm happy that the it's providing long-term housing for the city as well and for you. Um, and that it will all be the interior will all be brought up to uh to our current requirements and the building code. So, I applaud you. Thank you. Thank you. Very good. And I'll just comment, I'm supportive of your endeavor. Sounds like a big project. Um and uh but worthwhile. Uh it's nice to have our the holder homes in our communities upgraded. I'm generally in support of that and um I'm sure it'll make it much more livable and um if there are any structural issues that are identified, you'll you'll have to deal with them along the way. But uh I'm

certainly supportive of the project and am comfortable making the findings with regards to the setbacks and the lot coverage um without a problem. So with that uh unless there's any additional discussion, I'd entertain a motion from one of the commissioners for approval. I'll make a motion. I move that we approve the request for conditional use and coastal development permit to allow interior remodel of the structure at 1082 Elm Street. according to the staff report. Very good. Thank you. Is there a second? Um a second and to accept the categorical exemption under SQA. Oops. That would be a proposed modification of the motion, I guess. Is that modification acceptable? Yes, certainly. Okay. Thanks for clarification, David. Okay. Okay. So, we have a motion on the floor uh with a second and uh for approval of the project uh and I'll ask for a a voice uh well, let me do a roll call since uh David's remote. So, um can I get a roll call uh vote on this one, please? Certainly. Uh Commissioner Benfield, yes. Commissioner Van Antworp, yes. Vice Chair Ellen, yes. And Chair Le Fevers, yes. Very good. Um motion passes. Your project is approved. Good luck and uh look forward forward to seeing the work. Thank you very much. Okay. We'll probably pause for just a moment here to regroup and then we'll continue on with our agenda. Okay. All righty. Very short reading.

Cindy's probably leaving us to I'm sure she has more work to do. So, a little bit. Thank you, Cindy. Thank you once again. Good luck. Thank you guys again. Thank you. Okay, we're going to continue on with our agenda. We're on uh other business. Uh item three, which is the election of planning commission chair and vice chair. Thank you, Chair Allen, or excuse me, Chair Levers. So, it's that that time of year again uh to uh select amongst yourselves a new chair and vice chair to serve out the remainder of the calendar year. Okay. Uh, very good. Thank you. And, um, open it up to the commission. Um, just for clarification, uh, Commissioner Allen is currently our vice chair. Um, and I would propose that David be considered as uh to be appointed chair. Uh, that would be my suggestion. Uh that's consistent with our past practice and certainly appropriate. Uh and um I guess for um for discussion purposes, the the vice chair position is open to any of the commissioners. Um I uh Commissioner Moyer is not present tonight, but it was going to be my suggestion that we consider Commissioner Moyer to be uh appointed as vice chair. I believe he's I believe it's kind of his turn in Q and I think I think I'm right on that. Yeah,

you are. We do kind of cycle through in sequence. Um, so those are my suggestions and uh happy to hear discussion on either uh Commissioner Allen as chair or Commissioner Moyer as vice chair. And um if there's if there is no discussion, I'd uh entertain a motion to make that happen that we can vote on. Okay. Uh, I don't want to make a motion right now, but I agree that the rotation has worked out well. We don't have major conflict, so it's easy to roll in the next commissioner, but we shouldn't be stuck every time with the same process. It should be open to discussion. In this case, we're fine. I think David would make a fine chairman and John Moyer would make a fine vice chair. and that you've done a very good job yourself. So, why rock the boat? Things are working well. I'll make a motion if you want me to. Or maybe I should nominate myself as chair again. I can do that. You can and you will lose. Nope. I'm good. I'm I'm I support Commissioner Allen. So, maybe he has something to say. Any uh Let me continue to open it up. Commissioner Allen, comments on that proposal. Well, it it's fine. I actually was going to nominate you to continue for another year. So, I'm open either way. Seriously, I will be attending the next couple of meetings in person. I will be uh remote uh for one or two meetings after that. So, that's one consideration. But either way is is fine with me. I am I'm happy with the chair of Fevers continuing as chair. I happy to continue as vice chair or I'm happy

to accept if we want to continue, you know, do the annual rotation to move up as chair. So, uh, I'll leave it to the remaining members of the commission. Okay. Thanks, uh, David. Uh, Commissioner Van Antworp, any thoughts? I know you're new, but you still get a voice. I'm fine with that. Okay. All right. And um I'm assuming uh and pretty confident that uh Commissioner Moyer would accept the position of vice chair. However, he's not here to tell us. Yes. But um if for some reason he doesn't, then we'll we can revisit the issue. But um so again, I um the floor is still open. My my suggestion and preference is still to nominate um suggest that we nominate Commissioner Allen as chair and Commissioner Moyer as vice chair. Just one more comment if I may. Yeah. Uh of course, you know, I'm old. I forgot. Um oh, during the next reign of terror, whoever's in charge, um we will probably have the Surfliner in issue. And I'm hoping that if David is the chair, he would be here. Otherwise, I would go with David as a rotation to get everybody involved and get a chance at it. So, I would make a motion to select David Allen as president uh as chairman of the board. What? He said no. No, he's just amused at your at your selection of uh language chairman chairman of the uh whatever we are. Okay. Anyway, I I would do that

separately from vice, I think, or we can do it together. And if we do use my motion, I would like to add that John Moyer be vice chair of the planning commission. Period. Okay. So, um I'm happy to split it, but I'm I'll start by accepting your motion for both actions. Okay. And ask if there's a second. This is Commissioner Allen as chair. Uh Commissioner Moyer as vice chair. I'll second that. Thank you. Great. Okay. Any further discussion on that? I think we're good. Um, so can I get a another roll call vote on that just because Commissioner Allen's remote? Yes. Uh, Commissioner Benfield. Yes. Commissioner Van Antanorp. Yes. Vice Chair perhaps for the last time. Allen. Yes. And Chair Lefvers. Yes. Motion carries 40. I I'd like to reiterate how how good a job you've done. Thank you, Glenn. My pleasure. Even if you cut me off and sneer at me, it's okay. I still love you. I'll I'll do my best when I'm no longer chair to kick you under the Don't put his chair down there. I'll I'll echo that. Uh Commissioner Favors has been chair uh numerous times over the years and Commissioner Favors has you have always done an excellent truly excellent job. Yeah. Thank you. which we can all try to live up to. So, and if you were Yep. You're Yeah, my pleasure. If you were here, David, I would turn the meeting over to you now as the new chair, but since you're

remote, I will proceed. Um, and our vice chair is not here, so I will proceed. We'll finish off this meeting. And uh so let's just keep we'll just keep um so the next item of business uh I'll uh ask Nick if you want to give us an intro on that. Um and u again congratulations on chair David. I know you'll do an excellent job uh in that role. Party time. So let's move on to item four on the agenda. Thank you chair. This is uh the selection of two planning commissioners to the city's general plan update committee. So, this is a a committee, an ad hoc committee put together uh with two members from the planning commission and two members from the city council and they are charged with helping staff and our consultant team review and prepare the updates to the city's general plan. So, this is something that's been in the works going back now since 2016. Probably the the bulk of the heavy lift is done now with with the GPU. Um, we're hoping to to release the complete public draft here this this spring, later this spring and and that will kick off another round of of public review and perhaps some public workshops and that might be a venue where the GPU can still play a role. Um, and then that will lead into preparation the environmental impact report. And hopefully around this time next year, we'll be actually starting the formal adoption hearings with planning commission and city council for the general plan update. But there's still potentially a little bit of of work to do for the general plan update committee. And so we need to assign two planning commissioners to be part of that in the event that there that there are some additional GPU meetings this year. So currently, uh, Commissioner Benfield is one of our GPU committee

members and then the other positions currently vacant. Okay. And, um, refresh my memory. Um, is this something that we need to come to consensus on and vote on, take a formal action? I think in the past we have just done a nomination and a vote. It's usually been, you know, something that has not been controversial. someone typically volunteers or expresses interest in in being on the committee and and then the rest of the commission has just accepted that and and voted to support it. Okay. All right. Thanks. Um I'll bring it back to the commission. Are uh Commissioner Benfield, are you willing to continue? Yes, I think it's very important that I be there and other and someone else be there, but I would like to continue. Yes, I agree. I think that makes a lot of sense to have that continuity and uh Okay, so we really just have the one spot then. Uh and um Commissioner Allen Van Antworp, I I have been on that committee before or on the previous general plan advisory committee, but I am also on the uh carpenter open space management advisory board and I find uh that that's uh you know fairly important and and relevant to um what you know, I'm following and and have a lot of institutional knowledge in and I'm sort of reluctant to devote time to another committee right now. So, I'm hoping that uh one of you two will take it on. Very good and understandable, David. We do appreciate all of the work that you do besides your role on the planning commission. I know it's it's a lot. So, uh Commissioner Van Antworp, is this something you would consider? Yes. Okay. I think it would be a it's certainly a

good learning experience and um your input would be valuable. So um yes, I very interested like to Okay. Um, so, uh, I would propose then, um, and in just to speed things up, I'll I wouldn't normally do this, but I'll just make the motion that, uh, uh, we appoint, uh, Commissioner Benfield and Commissioner Van Antworp as the two planning commission representatives on the general plan update committee. And I'll need a second. I'll second. Okay. Thank you. Any other discussion? Can I get a uh roll call vote, please? Commissioner Benfield, yes. Commissioner Van Antworp, yes. Vice Chair Allen, yes. And Chair Levers, yes. Okay. Thank you very much for your service and future service. It's an important It's important. Very. Okay, back to you, Nick. Thank you. So, last up here under matters by commissioners, I just wanted to acknowledge that you've received in your packet the director's report. Uh, this includes minutes from the architecture review board meeting back in December of last year, uh, city calendar for the month of April, the planning activi activity report as of the end of March, and the building permit activity report also as the end of March. And I wanted to just highlight a couple things that probably show up in the planning activity report. So, um, this coming Monday, April 14th, the city council will be, uh, taking the final action necessary to finalize the housing element reszones. So, you recall that we did all that work, uh, back in fall of last year to, to make up our arena shortfall by reszoning some some handful of properties to the new residential

mixeduse zone district. And the city council went ahead and approved those reszones in December of last year. We packaged them up and and sent that all off both to HCD and the Coastal Commission and uh received approval from HCD back in end of January and Coastal Commission approved the changes uh just middle of last month. And so now this is the final step is for this packet to come back to the city council and for the council to acknowledge and accept the coastal commission's action and and make it final. So that's a that's a big milestone to finally be be done with that and and have that behind us. Um also coming up through through the chair, may I ask a question on that? Sure. Uh apologize for interrupting. Uh but on the reszones, uh there were a couple of at least one reason that was quite favored by the commission to move forward uh but would have required it will require a general plan. um u revision as I recall uh is uh are those in the works the second phase. Do you have any expectations on that through the chair vice chair Allen? Uh yes. So the the second phase of reszones are in the works. We're actually uh right now including them in the general plan update so that the analysis and the the potential buildout scenarios of those are being looked at as part of the general plan update. And then um you know as part of that public hearing process which we're anticipating would occur sometime next year, the planning commission and city council can make final decisions on which of those additional reszones, if any, are carried forward as part of the general plan update. Um, there's also some chance that some of the properties that were

deferred as part of phase 2 could come back and re be reconsidered on a on a um faster timeline. So, you recall back in fall of last year, there was some talk about one of the sites on the Carpentry of Bluffs is uh where the the property owner was advocating for it to be included in the phase one reszones. And the the council uh ultimately decided not to include it, but wanted to come back and revisit it separately sometime this year ahead of the the larger phase 2 reszone effort. And so that's something that we're still working with the applicant team to to get all of our our ducks in a row and bring that back to the council for additional discussion that'll be, you know, separate and ahead of the larger phase 2 reszone effort. And would the commission see it as part of that uh um review? I think it I think it depends. My I'd have to go back and and take a look at what your commission's action was. My my recollection was that your commission recommended approval of the phase one reszones with that site included and the council uh you know chose not to take up that recommendation ultimately. Um so I I don't know offhand if that would you know then need to come back to your commission again or not. Yeah, that's not my recollection but I could be mistaken. I I I didn't know think the majority went uh for the um proposed uh uh reszone on the bluff property on the ocean side of Carpenter Avenue. We can be mistaken. Yeah. And I may be as well. Either way, you know what if Yeah. Once we get back to the the first step, I think is to get back to the city council and continue this discussion with the council, get some direction on whether this is something that they want to to entertain now or

continue to defer to phase two. And then if they decide they do want to pursue it now, then that'll, you know, kind of give us our marching orders to to go back and and craft a proposed ordinance and take it through the the legislative process. Yeah, that was my recollection as well, Commissioner Allen, that the commission did not approve recommending that uh the Bluff's parcel and we did not I don't believe uh I think we did recommend the um Agonas parcel that's the one that was maybe that's the one I'm getting confused you included one and you one. So, um, yeah, if if the council does elect that they want to pursue, you know, reszoning of of of the site on the bluffs, then perhaps that would need to come back to your commission. Okay. Thank you. Sure. Um so the other items I just wanted to highlight from the planning activity report was um for next month's hearing which is May 5th uh we'll be we'll be bringing to you the uh decommissioning project for the Chevron oil and gas processing facility. Great. And so the um the proposed final EIR for that is up on the website now. Uh, and it includes as an appendix to the EIR, um, a list of all of the or excuse me, copies of all the comments received from the draft EIR and then responses to those comments and where you can find those responses. So, that's all up on the city website now and we'll be doing some additional outreach to folks who submitted public comments to let them formally know that it's available, but I just wanted to let you know it is it is up there and it's it's posted if folks are interested in in digging into that ahead of the hearing. Okay. And through the chair. Go ahead, David. Yes. Um I uh have not heard though. I know they uh we're going to look at it and let me know whether I

will be able to participate in the decommissioning uh hearing. Uh I our residence is within 500 ft of the closest parcel. That parcel is not part of any work so far as I know. uh but uh if the uh if the project is looked at as including all of the parcels then I may not be able to uh participate in that um uh matter. Mhm. So um it would I'll be attending the meeting for whatever else is there of course uh but I may have to step out for that part. I can't imagine that though. Yeah, I appreciate the heads up on that uh David. uh got certainly do whatever's necessary and appropriate. Hopefully we'll have your input. Um Mhm. but if not, we understand why. Um okay, thanks for the heads up on the on that next meeting and you know that's a lot of material uh in the EIR. So good. I'm glad it's available. We'll dig in and start taking a look and um yeah and then we'll wait for the staff report on that. So, so let's talk just a moment about the May 5th meeting. Um, just uh for your awareness, I will be out of town on May 5th. Um, I will see if I can figure out a way to join via Zoom um because I would like to participate in that uh action very much. So, um what re What is the deadline for uh posting uh chair fevers? So the the notices will go out at least 10 calendar days ahead of the hearing. The agenda will get

posted um April 12th. Yes. At minimum uh the Thursday prior to the hearing, but I I hope to post the agenda earlier than that. Okay. And so I guess my question is since I haven't attended remotely since since we were in the COVID shutdown, um when do you need to know uh an address? Yeah, I would think if you can let us know, let's say by um you know, April 24th or April 25th. that gives us, you know, enough time that we can that we can note your your remote address on the agenda and make sure that it's there when we publish. Thank you. And then um other commissioners, we know David's planning to be here in person. Uh other commissioners planning will be available to attend on the 5th. Yes. Yes. Okay. Very good. Thank you. And we don't know about John, but hopefully he'll be here as well. We're not going to forget matters presented by commissioners, are we? Did I Did I skip over that? Well, or is it we don't have it on our agenda? Nick got carried away and skipped right over it. Okay. Before I adjourn, I will open it up for matters presented by commissioners. Okay. I had several. One of them is this. I have asked the city three times. I have done it in writing to take the story poles down on Dorance Avenue on both sides for projected development. The poles are just rotting there and they're unsightly. I'd really like to see those disappear. The second thing is I I don't know who I've spoke to spoken to about this but we need to really pursue either

uh advertising or or working or initial work on an emergency exit through the state park during a disaster. We we need to I know that's available. They have spikes however for cars that cannot drive through there. So, we must have a system for an emergency response. And I've never heard of it, but somebody says it exists. And you know, Lyndon is not enough for us to get everybody evacuated out of that area. So, I'd like to know the status of that, if any. Thirdly, um I would like us to use these meeting dates that we don't meet for a casework on issues that we must address philosophically like parking and um maybe not affordable housing because we beat that to death, but parking is an issue that keeps accumulating and we talk about it on each case, but we don't have a full view of the total picture and I think we should do things like that. Um and and the third thing, fourth thing is am I conflicted out by where I live for the Surfliner Hotel. That's all I have. No, I don't need answers right now. Of course, and through the chair. Thanks, Commissioner Benfield. Go ahead, Commissioner Allen. Yeah. Uh just a question uh Nick on whether we have projected dates for any future major projects such as the Surfliner through the chair. Nothing yet planned for the Surfliner. Um we're taking an item to the city council this coming Monday to uh hopefully award a contract for the EIR consultant for the surf letter in and so um you know figure if they if they do get awarded the contract that

they would kick off their work here sometime this spring and and that's got you know 6 months or more of of work I would guess to to prepare that draft di and get that circulated. So, I think it's going to be still a little while before that project gets in front of your planning commission. Mhm. Thank you, by the way. Okay. Uh, anything else? Uh, Commissioner Allen? Uh, no. Thank you. Okay. Any other items? Commissioner Vantor? No. No. Thank you. Okay. I don't have anything. So, uh, we've reached the end of our agenda and we're adjourned. Thank you very much. Good to see you. [Music]