Environmental Conservation Board - Regular Meeting

No, I have, I don't know. You're right. Yes. Okay. All right.

Put a branch into a swamp, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, I don't know. I have somebody who just dropped out of school and he was disappointed because you need three acres, at least three acres for . Well, I think . So they're changing it, are you saying? Well, he just built the property. And he has, well, he has two acres. My other neighbor has three acres. So they might be able to. Well, he tried at one time. Whatever you gotta do.

Thank you. Please stand for the pledge.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

Good evening, today is July 22nd, 2026. This is the Environmental Conservation Board. We have an agenda that we're going to follow. And the first item eligible for a wetland permit is the DEP Croton Falls Reservoir. Please come up, state your name, and who you're here to represent.

take it down if you want yeah you can probably still hear me i'm shannon jenkins i am representing the new york city department of environmental protection for the um wetland permit for the water chestnut harvesting and crow falls reservoir all right the harvesting and uh it's about six acres of water chestnut along west lake drive between croton falls road and stevens road okay um has anything changed since you were here the last time nope

and nothing has changed in the plans there have been no questions or comments from the public uh just have to fill out the eaf and sign the permit there's no issues being the fact so i'm going to make a motion then to approve permit number number 1020 to New York City DEP with the following conditions. That the town wetland inspector do a pre and post site visit for installation of erosion control. Do I have a motion?

I'll make that motion.

I'll second it.

All in favor? Aye. Okay, so I'm going to sign this now. And then you can get the permit on either tomorrow or Monday from Rose, okay?

Okay, I'm going to stop in during the hours?

Yes, stop in during regular business hours.

Okay, yeah, I'll reach out to her first to make sure.

Okay, so we're just going to do your short form. You don't need to stick around if you don't want to. It's up to you. Will the proposed action create a material conflict with an adopted land use plan or zoning regulations? No. No. Will the proposed action result in change or use intensity of land use? No. Will the proposed action impair the character or quality of the existing community? No. Will the proposed action have an impact on the environmental characteristics that cause the establishment of a critical environmental area? No. Will the proposed action result in adverse change in the existing level of traffic? No. Will the proposed action cause an increased use of energy? No. Will the proposed action impact the existing public-private water or public-private wastewater? No. Will the proposed action impair the character quality of important historic, archaeological, architectural, or aesthetic resources? No. Will the proposed action result in adverse change to natural resources? Nope. And will the proposed action result in increase in the potential for erosion, flooding, or drainage problems? No. And will the proposed action create a hazard to environmental resources or human health?

Nope.

Okay, so you're good to go.

All right, thank you.

Make sure you go through the gift shop on your way out.

Is there a sale?

Yeah, they're giving away Boblog of bobbleheads. Have a good night. Okay. One. One down. Okay. Number two is extension of wetland permit. Western Bluff subdivision, 350 West Shore Road, three lot subdivision. Please state your name and who you're here to represent.

My name is Gilly Moshi. I'm here to represent myself.

Okay. How are you?

Good. How are you doing?

Good. Okay. So I spoke to Rose about this today. So this is for a subdivision up in West Shore Drive, which is... Town of Carmel. So my question to you, has anything changed from the plans that were previously submitted back in 23? No, sir.

No?

No. Okay. The one thing that I am going to need from you is I'm going to need a copy of the new deed or a copy of the sale of the property showing that you're the new owner. Absolutely. So... As long as nothing's changed, this does not have to be advertised. So if you're telling me that none of the plans have been changed, and I'm going to make it a condition that you do the town wetland inspector. When you start the work, you have to notify. And then I'm going to also make it a condition to provide us a copy of the new deed and or the sale certificate. Okay? Okay. so let me go through my thing here so do i have a motion to extend so this goes from 9 8 25 so it would expire 9 8 26. i don't think you're going to be done in 2026. no sir so what are you looking for in terms of a permanent extension

Is this permit need to be valid for the entirety of the build? Yes.

It's usually a year per permit.

Per permit, and it would be for the whole subdivision? Right. So for the three houses? I mean, I'm going to need...

at least two years i mean i'm happy to i'm happy to come back and i'm going to extend this through september 2027 and then you have to come back in again absolutely okay but here's the thing if anything changes on this permit then you have to come back in and we start from yeah okay so hold on um

Yeah, I'm planning the first house getting built will be my personal house, and then go from there.

Also, the other thing is I'm going to ask you to just refresh the wetland markers.

Absolutely. Yeah, when my surveyors are lined up, when I have them there, I'll make sure that the wetlands are delineated and everything.

Okay, so do I have a motion to, hold on, I have to put this, I think I should have to write this. September 7th, 2027.

It must come.

okay do i have a motion to extend permit number one zero two one zero two one two western bluff subdivisions gil moshi with the following three conditions one that the town wetland inspector do a pre and post site visit for the installation of all rows of all erosion control because you're going to do three separate sites absolutely provide a copy of the bill of sale and or deed prior to the start of the work for a file and refresh the wetland markers and submit submit documentation that it was done Do I have a motion?

I make the motion.

Do I have a second?

I'll second.

All in favor? Aye. Okay, you're on the clock.

Thank you very much.

All right, so if there's any changes, you must notify us.

Absolutely. Yeah, and I mean, the existing plans are approved by the planning board, so we're sticking with those and going from there.

Okay, you're good to go. See Rose. Just for your information, I put a note on here. There's a note on the permit that it's extended through September 7, 2027. And you'll have to come in prior to 9-7-27. Absolutely.

And I can bring Rose the deed of sale?

Yeah, give it to her, and she'll send me a note. Or you can scan it to her and send it to her. Yeah, I'm not going to give her the... I need it for the file.

Absolutely. Okay? Thank you very much, guys. You have a nice night. You too.

You too. Next item, William Schilling.

Oh, I remember this. Yeah.

A picture is worth $1,000. Thank you. Oh, yep. Or above $380. Okay.

Just remember, three bucks will get you on the subway.

Probably. Okay, so you were here last time. I don't have my notes.

Well, I can go over them with you. Basically, I have three notes.

One was to... Oh, could you please identify who you are? Oh, sorry. Do you want me to lower that stand for you? What's that? Do you want me to lower that for you?

No, I can talk. Okay. Basically, three things you wanted. One, if you look at the survey on the upper corner of the drawing, is to show the 100 foot line from Kirk Lake to where it came, some ways down toward Kirk Lake Drive. The second thing was to put a turbidity curtain around the new dock. And also to have a rain garden on the property. And as you look through your papers, the first sheet shows the survey. THE SECOND SHEET SHOWS THE CALCULATIONS FOR THE RAIN GARDEN AND THE DETAILS.

YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE TOWN ENGINEER FOR APPROVAL.

ALSO ON THE FRONT SHEET IS THE SILT FENCE. AND THEN IF YOU FLIP IT AROUND IN THE OTHER DIRECTION. We have the turbidity curtain section detail, and the curtain section, the turbidity curtain section, there's both the detail and the elevation.

So you were, just to remind me. Well, basically what we're doing is. You're taking out that U dock and just putting a straight dock in there.

That's it.

And you're demoing the existing dock by hand, correct?

Yes.

No machines?

No, no, no, no, no.

So then you're doing that. So, okay, I'm okay with that. That's only going out 20 feet. Fine. I'm good with that. Rapidity curtain while you're doing it. Got no issues. I'm happy with that. The rain garden, the calculations will come back to you. You're going to submit these to Rich, and he's going to review them while we advertise.

Well, is there any way we can have a letter of permission? Because we didn't have a quorum last time, so we lost over a month.

I understand that, but you're also adding a 10 by 16 addition to the house.

Yeah, which just happens to be much further back than the rest of the house. The closest part of the house is, I think, 33 feet. The addition that we're proposing is 50 feet. And we have a rain garden in between. I mean, we've done everything that you've asked for.

And I mean, you can advertise and we can maybe

get a public hearing next time, but at least give us a letter of permission.

I'm not going to have a public hearing. I don't mean that. Whatever you have to do. I mean, I was just going to advertise it. I mean, if you want to start doing stuff while we're advertising. Basically, that's the only reason we couldn't get a permit is because of... Well, last time it would have been advertised, and you probably would have been eligible for a permit next meeting. Which is today. No, because the last meeting was June 22nd. Yeah. So we missed July 4th. So it's 45 days. I thought it was 30 or 45 days. So it might have been today. Yeah. Or tomorrow. You're right.

So if you can give us a letter so we can give it to the building inspector to get a permit, and I will get this to Mr. Franzetti tomorrow for his review. I mean, as you can see, we've gone all out to satisfy the various conditions that we require.

Well, you're trying to beat the weather, too.

Yeah, that would help.

Do you guys have an issue with the weather permission?

No.

Do you?

No.

Okay, so I'm going to make this contingent on the following, okay? So I'm going to make a motion, and then it's going to be contingent on this. So... I'm going to make a motion to issue a letter of permission to William Schilling at 37 Kirk Lake Drive to replace a dock, a small dock, and adding a 10 by 16 addition onto the house as shown in the drawings, subject to the following two conditions. One, the wetland inspector do a pre and post inspection. of all of the mitigation method mitigation barriers that's the turbidity curtain right and the rain garden i assume turbidity curtain and silt fence Because you're doing hand excavation, right? You're not doing it with a machine, right?

I said it before, I'll say it again.

No, for when they add the constructions of the new home. You're not digging the foundation with a machine, are you? This is a small addition. Okay, two, no machines on site. Except maybe a cement mixer. And three, submit the grain garden calculations.

So the silt fence and the rain garden calculation to the town engineer?

Well, submit the rain garden calcs to the town engineer.

Yeah. Also, did you say something about wanting to check the silt fence or something?

Right, the wetland inspector has to do it. Once you install all your mitigation, you have to call him up. He has to come inspect it. Once he inspects it, he gives you the secret handshake. You're good to go.

Is there a special hand check that he does? You'll find out. Maybe I don't want to find out.

So do I have a motion? Very good. Do I have a motion?

I like his hand check instead. Yeah, I know. Moe, Larry, and Curly. I won't ask who's who.

Do I have a motion to grant a letter of permission to William Schilling for 37 Kirk Lake Drive with the following three conditions. One, the wetland inspector do a pre and post inspection of all the mitigation barriers, turbidity curtain, and sill fence. No machines to be operated on site to perform this work. And submit the rain garden calculations to the town engineer. Do I have a motion?

I'll make that motion.

I'll second it.

All in favor?

Aye.

Okay, so a letter of permission.

Thank you very much. Now, the next meeting, do I have to appear also?

No, you just go see Rose.

No, I meant for the letter of permission to wear it.

No, you go see Rose during the week.

Oh, okay.

You go see Rose, I think, during the week. You don't have to come here for it.

No, no, I meant you said something about you're going to advertise.

You're getting a letter of permission, you don't have to advertise.

Okay, very good, thank you.

I don't have to advertise with a letter of permission.

So I think you should lower this.

I offered. Hopefully everybody after you is taller.

I think they are. Well, thank you very much. You're welcome. Enjoy the holiday. Good weather, enjoy the weekend. It's supposed to be gorgeous, so enjoy it.

I'm gonna do my best.

I'm sure you will.

Okay, next item is Kanz and Hasbrook. Yeah, did I say that right? Close enough. I did the best I could do. It says retain, shed, and buffer. So can you please state your name and who you're here to represent?

Peter Zamboletti. I'm an architect. I'm representing Megan Kanz and Eric Hasbrook.

Sounds like an ice skating duo. All right.

Good night.

Good night.

Hold on. Oh, I got it right here. Okay. Retain shed. You came before us a couple weeks ago, right?

This is the first meeting that I'm at. I believe Megan was at the last one.

Yeah, we were here the last meeting. You requested rain gardens.

Oh, this is the one where you have the three sheds that are slightly within the buffer of the...

I remember.

and we had asked you to do the rain garden calculations to put rain gardens next to both, next to all three sheds based on the lack of permeability of the roof. So you're gonna have it run to a gutter and then from there you're gonna go into the rain garden and that's it, right? Okay, I remember. Did you submit the rain garden calculations to the town engineer?

Yes.

Rich is a... Let's see if he wrote us a letter. Rich wrote a letter saying, Chairman Lugg and the Environmental Conservation Board requested by a town common environmental but the engineering department has reviewed the proposed rain garden calculations please note that he spoke to applicants representing the area to be captures 256 square feet not 512. a rain gun up 32 square feet will be sufficient for the 250 square foot rooftop capture the applicant will provide an updated drawing with the corrective calculations which are in the file And the design calculations submit our conformance to New York State DEC.

Okay, so that was the only thing we really asked for, right?

So you want a letter of permission to do that. You don't have to advertise. Those sheds are existing. Do you have any questions? Nope. Do you have any questions? Okay, do I have a motion to... grant the letter of permission to Kants and Hasbrook for 241 Washington Road to retain shed and buffer. Before I continue, are the rain gardens in already? You're not putting silt fence around the work area, are you? Or you're just going to do the rain gardens?

There's no plans for a silt fence.

Okay. I'm just asking. And then you're doing this all by hand, right? Yes. Okay. So do I have a motion to grant the letter of permission? I'll make the motion. Do I have a second?

I'll second.

All in favor? Aye. Okay. Rose will have your letter either tomorrow or Monday.

Great.

All right? Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

That was easy. The only thing I'm going to ask is when you're done with the rain garden, just take a couple pictures, send them over to Rose so we see that they were done in accordance. All right? Sounds good.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

And who are you here for?

I'm just an observer.

You're just an observer?

All right. Okay. uh after they put the um soccer fields in the airport field that uh i didn't have any monitor and i didn't know whether you guys were involved no sir no we just i mean we just we do um

We do wetlands and water streams and making sure that we keep the wetlands and watershed areas clear. Meaning, if they're building something in the buffer, which is 100 feet from the rain garden, that we make sure we take... I mean, from the wetlands. So the wetland is a wet area defined by plants and locations. Like this swamp? Yeah, stuff like that. That potentially could be considered a wetland. So everything 100 feet from that is under our jurisdiction that we look at to make sure that they keep water quality. If they're cutting trees down, we should identify. There are certain times of the year you can cut trees down. You're allowed up to like six, which is no issue, but if you're doing more than that, because of the bats, you have to... I think it's the bats. The long-eared bats. So that's what we look at. All right? We have another item here. Miss Lance, Luigi... Chiucci. Chiucci. This was last meeting. They installed a... they want to install an above ground pool so we this was one when you weren't we just have to make a motion on this this is the one we went through they're putting a pool in we're all good I just have to make a motion for it to be official so do I have a motion to grant permit number 1019 to Luigi Siuzzi at 16 Sycamore Road Mayopac New York with a following condition which is a town wetland inspector to do a pre and post site visit for the installation of corrosion control do i have a motion i'll make that motion i'll second it all in favor aye aye okay and that's it uh you have any new business you want to bring up i mean you can go up to the microphone if you want i'll give you i'll give you the three minutes

But if you're north of the... Yeah, exactly.

And you're on Bullet Hole, because I'm not far from there.

I've played enough rounds of golf there and gone that way to take the shortcut to Austin Road. I mean, that's really a good distance from there.

Yeah, but it was, the whole field was milkweed, so.

That might be, I mean, this isn't, I can't say positively that this is who you'd contact, but maybe like an email to the Parks and Rec Department.

Yeah, that's.

I spoke to them, and apparently, is that the kind of, was not authorized by any political party, and sort of.

I think his name was Jim.

I forget his name.

No, no, but I think the person you were talking about retired. The guy that was in charge of parks. You know, he came out of Sycamore Road.

Yeah, out of Sycamore Road.

Yeah, no, Jim, he retired last year. I don't know who replaced him.

But he said, this person said that they'd be planting the weed south of the...

Let me get through this last piece and then I'll give you just a minute. Meeting minutes 6-4-26. Do I have a motion to approve the meeting minutes for June 4th, 2026?

I'll make the motion.

Second?

I'll second.

All in favor? Aye.

Okay.

Okay. Yes, so whenever there's a town project or anything, they don't come to us for approvals. They are self-regulated. We're here for homeowners.

Okay, so I have a neighbor on either side of me. I have an acre that was given by a neighbor. But on either side, they have two and three acres. And apparently they can't build a second house. Is that here? Zoning. That's zoning. Yeah. That's zoning. Zoning. It's not to do with ownership?

No. First they have to go to zoning. Zoning, depending on where the location is that they want to build, then zoning or planning would refer them to us. Then we have to give them the Willy Wonka ticket, and then they will give them the permit, the approval to go ahead. So we work in tandem with... Planning and zoning, okay?

In certain neighborhoods, it's a little bit easier because they were former- They don't want us to be- Basically, no, basically beach communities or lake communities. So most of the people living there were just summer residents. Right. And through the years, they converted the homes, the permanent residences. So of course, everybody's just that much closer, but Through the years, I remember I had a friend of mine who lives in Yorktown. Each town has their own regulations. Acreage is based upon how many bedrooms. If you're building a house and you say, I'm building a three-bedroom house, it was basically an acre of bedroom.

Just for the record, could you state your name? Because they're going to ask on the tape.

Bradford Polis.

Nice to meet you, Mr. Polis. Same here.

All right, so- Yeah. We're good. So some of the towns, like I said, it depends upon the communities. They wanted an acre.

You mean the town or the acres?

The town. The town. If they were doing a new development and after a certain time, even if you wanted to subdivide, they were saying, uh-uh, you don't have the acreage. Because what the towns are afraid of... They have a...

I'm going to close the meeting so we can close off the record.

It's the support services that come into play.

Okay. I'm going to make a motion to adjourn the meeting. Do I have a motion?

I'll make that motion.

I'll second it. All in favor? Aye. Enjoy the parade tomorrow, folks. Thank you. Enjoy this nice weather. We'll see you next time. Yeah.