Planning Board - Regular Meeting

12th, I think. Preparing, preparing, preparing. And then I have to shut down something so we don't lose the sound again. Whatever that is. Give me one second.

It's the It's the weather. Once you have the app open, then you shut the browser down. It's the open walk over. I think I got it.

Got it. I hear the echoing audio video. Anybody out there? I have this as well. I'm trying to pay attention to it.

And we're so happy you had. Thank you. Yeah. Well, it's because of the rain. I had to come.

What needed rain? So you will call the meeting before 607 order 16 minutes as a three pager. I also attached the correspondence that went to air energy resource approved. whoever the last one here then and Daniel and I voted agree. Yeah. I haven't had a chance to address the soil board members yet. I've tried that before and with you to listen. They just they're scared of the legal review of all the ordinance.

Right. Right. Um before we get to that detail, um let's go through the April 16th maintenance. Next, I think so. favor.

I did send another late today asking them to please copy the permanent log and put it in a table if it was still here but too late today box so that it'll be different our next meeting. Yeah. So we can assume there wasn't any comments in that. Well, we can assume we don't have it. There is

um so so on the next step in order progress, right? You've done that's what you've done, right? I think I think from the conversation we had at one point what people said that'll wake you up. We need to like go ahead and like push to get those on the boat this month and then I think we kind of worked our way around to the conclusion that um just wait till the next year no matter what. We're just not going to push it because we have other things to do. Yeah. And like a month to actually review. Well, again, I don't know how much funding they put in the budget,

right? We have a lot more legal stuff next year, but still to do something we could suggest that um we'll see a case of I don't That is false. It's too dumb. It's too late to get them done. I started the vision process a couple weeks ago. It's okay. After the fiscal year, okay, it's starting fresh. At that point for the ordinances that are done, can we try to talk with or have a meeting with the select members and say these are not new. I mean, I understand if it's a new ordinance that it would probably have to go to legal review. You may have missed something. I mean, I I get it. But if it's an ordinance that was already in existence and we're just updating certain things on it, I don't see the need on those to go through the review. Is there a way to approach them at that point? Certainly, I mean, we've sent all the ordinances with this chart that says this ordinance we think is minimal risk because of this and other change, but they've got that information. they had not the last meeting they had they um did not come to review it prior to that meeting. So then they had they skipped they missed a meeting because of not having form um their next meeting is next week. So that's when it'll be on their agenda next time.

Okay. Maybe we'll take a look. Yeah. Yeah. I'll try to This is only benefiting the town. So are they on Thursdays as well? Are they on Thursdays as well? Yeah. Yeah. Well, first and third is fourth. Okay. What is the next step if nothing else?

Well, the last comments we had were there's no money in the budget essentially. Okay. fiscal year. So we can if they say they don't agree to advance them without review or any of them which some only had one or two words changed by but they choose not to do that then the first select board meeting in July um we can put the same question to the new select board because they'll be there will be something new at that point um they can consider either send to legal and I would I would suggest perhaps that we should suggest some guidelines that we give legal because I think what we found last year was nobody said, you know, we need a $300 review and we got back $3,000 for example, right? Could we give our lawyers some guideline that the how much? So who but right now the only people that can communicate with the lawyers is the chairman of the select and that was a policy that got put in place years ago. Otherwise we were talking directly to lawyers but that they rerouted that conversation so that select men that are getting done their terms were up.

Yes. Well, I mean, um, there's two I believe there's two spots open on the sele. I don't believe that John is running again and I think Carol spot is open, but she is running again. Tomorrow night instead of our meeting there is a and tomorrow night. I think as a as a constituent you should always know who you is that new have they always had on Yeah. Okay.

Well, I heard that. I said, "Are you bringing like the governor candidates?" Because they never had candidates before and they're like, "No, it's all the town." Oh, cool. Okay. So LV.

Yes.

So LB 2173 is the state legislative vote around um housing. There are some components attached to them. note that said Eric Buffkin that says happy Wednesday the Eric Buck happy Wednesday I think might be your right hand I think that oh yeah it is okay that's um that's a she sent us um a couple weeks ago that said basically hey it passed um the state has given some new guidance around housing in particular they're trying to promote denser housing housing and more housing because of the housing shortage of the state. Um you can read the whole you can go online and get okay 713 and read the entire thing. Um, however, the state of Maine under the under the which is the main community something community assistance is offering planning grants to get consultant help to have a consultant take a look at our housing or our um public housing or see if it's compliant with the new legislation and recommend changes to that. You can apply to those grants and I think if July 31st Yes. says rolling basis review on a rolling basis until July 31st 2026. Great. So, if you say, "Hey, we want to apply for this." Um, I'm happy to do that if you get off that because I thought anytime we can get help, um, they have a

third party look at the ordinance and say, "Hey, you should be assist." Great. So all of these in blue you need to know how to get more information on the finding in fact. Yes. Yeah. I didn't I went to the website and looked at a few of those. I didn't go to every you. So you can go online and get that. We've all got a copy of Erica's email because I for that to you that has a lot of links in it. Um I think because we are also doing a comp plan I think this is all important pieces of that the state is asking us to do more with you know denser housing like I don't know if our minimum lot size was acceptable under the new law or not

um um or it might be is it minimum of an acre here? Yes, cluster housing that is smaller. Okay. It's an acre. Correct. or 40 square feet. Okay. 40 something 40. Um so this would address like in-law grandparent housing and stuff like that. I believe on the same law. Yeah. and they're calling them um auxiliary housing units or auxiliary housing something like you add apartment on the back of your building or

right in the garage into an in-law apartment I know they're promoting those kinds of things and I think it's we we don't tend to be proactive in our organiz like I think all the work we've done in the last five years has been retroactive yeah just catch it Yes. So I think it's about how do we stay on top of it going forward because that's the only challenge otherwise in 10 years we'll be the same.

Yes. Okay. I saw some video. Yeah. FA and stuff. So yeah, you maybe you want you mean to do it together. So I'm moving Saturday. Won't be back after Memorial Day.

This is the This is the dog sitting that Jess um little baby, I guess. I don't know too. There's that little but I'm going to do um over 20.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, so this was when I was planning on taking all the work that we've done in Word and putting it over PowerPoint because I have like three weeks of downtime, you know, been like moving six cords of wood the last two weeks, you know, so I won't be doing things like that. So my plan is to start moving the rest of our documents into power to go. Um before we go I would like to we have to on that step we should go together and make sure that that's what we want for what presentation

for presentation purposes and readability readability and you know um yeah the whole comp plan could be in that format. Yeah. So yes and so we can use some of the functionality of PowerPoint to kind of bring forward you know ideas that we really want just for yeah so exactly exactly a list of pictures that we want and hand to everybody did you interrupt

I was at somebody else and I'm like you got talking about Oh, I'm happy. that work on session meetings or maybe I'll just come in and show you progress of what I've done so far. But I'll text you.

Yeah. But I'm going to keep the folders.

And then her house. So along those same lines, um I was talking to a woman named Carol Wilbur. She runs a business that makes some kind of interesting modular homes, but she's also doing a lot of um affordable housing development in the Rumpford area. She also is the executive director of a group called Build the Main. And she also works with um another consultant on running these community sessions that are all about getting everybody on board, select groups, and hearing from every group on kind of community planning. And I said, "This sounds really exciting to me for their comp plan." I said, "Oh my guard on how this works and what are you doing?" She said, "You should talk to Vanessa Par little I mean you're I did call Vanessa Far. We talked on Monday. They run what she calls Sherets. Um the staple document possible consulting with plan. Um, Vanessa worked for Haiti Ward. Vanessa was also involved in you guys have it.

I do. Okay. Okay. Vanessa and Cara also worked the state of Maine on suggesting some alternative planning methods because they they said this, you know, emphasis on this inventory and this data said it's really missing the point of community development.

Um, however, it made some headway, but the state still has the checklist. I don't like I'm okay with the checklist, but um they run this five day workshop and it isn't everybody all day for five days, but like they're set up in a space for five days and maybe it's here, maybe it's the the historical society or something. Um they set up this very intensive collaboration and and we work with them to design it. The design work I feel as part of doing where to deal with, right? Because you have to say here's who we want. Let's figure out which days so other people can show up. Let's schedule extre for those days blah blah blah. Um they have done work with rumird recently and part of that was rum's working on its 2035 plan like you guys are so good working on our 2004 plan updated. Um but they had for example the people working on their plan believed that a citizen didn't care like what style of housing went in which was 100% not true right? So, they got all these citizens to show up at these meetings and they put out things like pictures of different styles of of I guess I'm just going to say different styles of housing what it could look like and people very quickly coalesed to an agreement on hey we like this one we don't like this one we like this one a little bit less but it's okay but we really don't like these right so they there was very clear direction that came out of these public meetings they also my understanding is that you can get um she could get state people to come to these meetings so that some of this planning is like pre-approved right

as you move ahead so that you're really advancing the plan and you come out of this with a much more tangible action plan and are the staff to do it right up front. So it's not just a document it's something that people have just waited um if we had talked in any detail because there wasn't any detail to share at this point. Um, one of the things she did mention out was the maps and Eric keeps saying she has the maps and I was writing the archive the other day and she got them but I will go back and get them but or call the guy and see if he's like us. But I like transparencies, right? You could overlay these maps. Then you could say, "Here's the animal habitat. Here's the uh

there's the snowmobile trail system. Here's the they have all that. Here's all the land that the town seem to have all these maps that we've been talking about. I think seem to have our set of maps and we had called the game habitat guy who's got maps and I'm not sure how they got to but somehow she's got them. She kept saying, "I'll come and bring them to you and I've asked you to price them in the mail. I'll stop and pick them up, but if they're not the transparencies, which I think I'm going to call him tomorrow and see if you can bring us the transparencies, get those because that's where that be

because I think if you look on that map and even block in like these are all the bio properties, right? This is the existing trail system." You can start to start to visualize what you're telling where it can go.

Yes. So all the body can anything at all be developed on that? Yes. Yes. The buildings have right you can put elevated Yes. Other towns have done all of your grounds and they've got special caps on the electrical outlet. So they're they're fine.

Yeah. So, they they know that hands. Um there's things like that. Who knows? And there's I think there's a lot of I'd always thought that around the lake and I don't think it would be so businesses and camps. Exactly.

Right. So So getting the mask is one thing. and she'd not given me a quote for her pricing, but I've also talked to the Mocha people about um planning grants. So, they have these community resilience grants. Canton is a part of this community part resilience partnership. We we commit the select board identified a project over a year ago and I think they're carrying out that budget and I don't remember what which exact project they identified. I think it might have been I know they want to take tear down school. Um there's there's something for the that was part of the flooding that happened two years ago, two years ago, right? That they're working with FEMA on that. I don't I don't know. So I've asked a question about what what was the project that we in the town agreed as part of the community resilience grants and is it completed? If it's completed, can we apply for another one under that partnership? And if so, this is the kind of stuff you can apply for under the resilience. Um, well, I didn't realize it's 11 pages. It's like I printed out.

Um, is this right now, too? Uh, I can send it to you. Okay. Yeah. Awesome.

But look, it's it's embracing the future of transportation. All about transitioning to electric vehicles. I mean, some of these might be target, right? um investment in public activity share transportation modernizing main buildings that's a problem um decrease energy burden while transitioning to clean energy like I don't know that you couldn't put some kind of solar on those things and feeds directly to like the town the town itself benefits I don't know so um uh natural working lands uh protect the environment, natural working lands and waters in Maine which is part of compland right so I think

uh building healthy and resilient communities that's plan yeah so it feels like um develop a capital investment plan that identifies vulnerable municipal or private government utility prior resilience in improvements and or reconstruction addresses intersecting land use considerations like this is all deal with. So then we use the community resilience partnership to get a grant to bring in these consultants to help us with this. Yeah, I think that would work. That would be great. I don't see a multi- loop process, but a multi-day process. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they said five days. Yeah.

And five working days, right? So it may not be consecutive days scattered. You were asking one of my that used to be stomping the fire firehouse, but that's listed again. Oh, that could be that could be. And I sat in the possible things and I just don't remember which date. How did we get her name again? Vanessa. Yeah. From um Carol Wilbert who's done affordable housing. She lives in Rumford. I think she bought the old mill and is fixing that up. And she's got there's just been a lot of like not great facilitators. So second Oh, were there colleges?

Yes, colleges renting some space. There's there's community dental on the floor. There's athletic people there. And I I toured that years ago because it used to be owned by the River Valley Road Council. I've gotten it as part of a grant and was working on turning that back into an economic development generator. Excuse me. Uh the top two floors have got those floor ceiling huge windows. They all need to be replaced because they'd be like a civ and but it's giant ceilings, huge windows. Like this would be the most beautiful apartments up here, condos or whatever, right? And I think Cara is turning those into housing and the first two floors will be comfortable. So Oh, yeah. Nice.

So she's got a lot of figures and a lot of eyes. Not everybody's not necessarily thrilled about the the housing and different stuff like that, but she let the process. She and Vanessa together the process in Rford. They also did one in Gardner which I put on a a page committee describes what happened in gardener uh which would use collaborative planning because we bring the planning and state like those committee members to address specific land use housing and design issues. For example, we don't have sewing in the town yet, but we could as a town designate this is an economic development zone, right? And that could have all this multi-uses

and that doesn't have to be restrictive zoning necessarily, but designated as a growth area or this is our main I mean the old main street. Yeah.

Right. This could be part of this could be our designated like beautifification area, right? And we want to work on making it safe, accessible to the lake. We build sidewalks that go all the way down the lake. Can you put in on the marshy side? You know, can you actually get be approval to put out of a pad and put in a permanent tree, you know, in there or better parking or whatever, you know. So, I think there's that's all right. I keep driving by there.

So that was the gardener piece. Um so this was the uh the last page that was the round seven application. They're now open for community action grants. provide support for two categories of climate action and community level action from the community resilience partnership list of community actions which is what that color was. Uh an approved list of plant mitigation adaptation activities that align with the strategies at le other projects composed of by community that support capacity building planning and implementation projects. So I feel like we could apply for this community action grant which is only June 5th. So this is among the way basically. Um there again there's webinar slides, there's a webinar recording, there's questions. Um I'm going to read up on this piece and see if this is there's a full tutorial you can get at one of those links. I just feel like this is something we should do as a town. And again, we probably need to get on a select board agenda at the next meeting and say, "Hey, the planning board would like to take a lead in applying for this, but it is a town application. for next Thursday.

Yes. So, I'll send that to Kathy. I'll try to do research on this before next week. That's um you're talking for this uh well this so this thing here says community action grant round seven. Oh yeah. Anyway, right. And one of the links here said the things you can apply for are the things that are on this page. Okay. Yes. Y is not a bad idea. There's no limit to grants you can feel right. I mean like if the town wanted to apply was like wanted to apply for something and we're applying for something.

Well I mean we're all coming from the same town.

Yeah. So yeah I know but there so there's a limit of funds. mean I know there's a limit but I'm asking you well I think this this is the um resil through the community resilience part I don't know there's other options other than this at this point um but Vanessa and Terra said they would also check because they said oh car has some other grant money available to her through I don't know what source but perhaps she could contribute that to this consulting planning process And I haven't seen a proposal, so I don't know what this costs. Oh, so that was the third piece was like, okay, so let's say we pull together this grant and that grant and we're still short. Could we as a platinum board approach the select board and ask for development funds? It feels like this would be where um for after that did the snowmobile thing. I don't remember how much this see around town like the one on Cell Road. There's no way that's lasting 10 years. It ain't going to happen.

That might be the one that was part of the FEMA grant because that's where they had the problem of buying. Yeah. And uh it's it's not going to last probably another two years before it's completely destroyed again. Yeah. We've got two on our road that are getting to bad shape. Yeah. So, and you can apply to ranch to fix that. So, yeah. I don't know how many you can apply for this. Yeah. I think about this. That's kind of important context. time seriously. So, she has an endless number of questions.

Yeah, I'm not afraid to pick up the phone. I'm like, "Hey, one day, let me hit you up." One day, a couple months ago, I was cleaning out a file. I found these business cards, right? Some lady I'm like had her name with this little star next to it. I'm like, "Who the heck is this person?" I put a written number. So, I called her up. Hi, I have your business card. I don't remember who you are, where I got your card you wanted saved it for. She goes, "Well, I started talking." I'm like, "Well, that's it. That's where I go." She does banners like hu like they kind of have banners that hang over the railing at a stadium, gigantic big banners kind of thing. I was like, but we had a good laugh.

Um, so that was my bullet point. discuss use of consultant for townwide input and buy into antiv they're going to go uh the next steps on that or talk to well I need to get a quote for how much is helping yeah from consultant and then look into the resilience grant Uh and then see if we need to ask for funds from the UA.

The other thing I think is we never asked the Tanalo solar project. I think they would have been willing to contribute to a community fund on an annual basis the life project. I don't remember that you know it's too late to do that but I can certainly

he mentioned that was forwarded but he said that he did not have a problem with doing that when he was trying to Yeah. So I I guess what is that fun? What is that solar thing called? What's that solar fund called?

Community funds the winds. Yeah, the community fund fund. Okay. I think Brown also facilitating similar types of meetings for companies over the years, but I think we have we as a group and say because they said in other three steps

I think we say what do we want? What do we need community input on, right? And like the brick might be to say, let's look at all these maps and let's designate, you know, broad brush like this is a growth area that this this is where we think you can extend trails like all the way potentially all the way, you know, around here. You want to have like significant trail system like from where the trails exist now. See, that would be wonderful. that road give them the opportunity now that we have the launch

even if we had him, you know, do something decent to camouflage it too, you know, like it's not too

So I think as part of the planning process that would be breed instead of those kind of what do we want as community facilitating you know want to make sure we have because people have said you know uh do should we have something um I don't know do we do you need to regulate what we can't have or do you say here's our growth areas and we want to emphasize growth in these particular areas which doesn't stop other people's like if so if somebody had a big lot and they wanted to subdivide it and put 2 on it you shouldn't be stopping not necessarily writing that. Let's um the uh uh so trail system like you know promoting recreation, you know, where would you put housing in development, beautifying main street, you know, effective reuse of the bioland, right? Those could be four or five major buckets right there.

Yeah, I got a sill question. Um when floods happened in the town, did the town acquire the flooded hill properties? Um warehouses were torn down the um in the in the flood plane.

So FEMA came to town after the flood in like 2003, right? and they said a opportune time for you to apply for a federal hazard mitigation grant which is national in scope and it's competitive and you have to decide what your scope is going to be. But there was a group of people that said, "Oh, we want to do it from basically 140 when it rounds the corner of the dump right goes there. It's this side of the um all the way down to the intersection here. Plus, some stuff down the lake. There's quite a few places on the right hand side that little road grade and they had marks on the trees like actually a little blacker than the trees. They were higher than the house.

Yeah. So those houses were broken. Yeah. And after the flood receded, people were there. Yeah. I mean some of the very side is where the rope looked up. Well, Canton is amazingly flat. Doesn't you don't think about it there. It rises actually right when you go past the curve past the school and it kind of curve downward. There's a rise there. Yeah. A very subtle rise. So that the intersection here with the blinking light doesn't really flood, but everything west of that does. And the the issue at that time with the nursing home was that the nursing home is completely blocked. Right. So all the exits. Yeah. You can't get anywhere.

They only have 108, right? So the original subdivision plan where the solar is now would have given a backdoor access to a nursing home. So they wouldn't have right now. Did they evaluate the last slide? I can't remember. They were thinking about it. Why would we just have um they were talking that I think they heard something about they evacuate them to I think a school the school some okay I mean the fire department opened itself up for

people who need food and shelter here that's not obviously um but so there was a decision that kind of scoped out how many how potentially There was a decision made by people to say this is not eminent domain so we're not forcing to move. Um they created a process where they a third party independent appraiser was not from around here and he specialized in like computer appraisals because he had to appraise it as if it was not in the flip lane. Okay. Because he had to give people some fair market value. Correct. And how do you determine fair market value? Yeah. For some part of it.

Yeah. And some of them had repairs done and some people had no flood insurance so they couldn't repair and the houses were just in really just repair. Yeah. Very much. Um so that guy came around did all his independent appraisals. Um and then people said this is your independent appraisal. Here's the offer. And this is not negotiation. You don't get to say oh I think my property is worth more. Yeah. Some people tried that right. Well, yeah. What effects? Uh, but it was um and then if you if you choose to take this biographer, do you want to stay in town, right? And then we can help you find another house in town

um or you just want to take your money and do something else, right? Because some people had grandkids like in Bangor, they sell through other people have job offers elsewhere. So, they were so a number of people did stay in town. Um and then the the programs then used um uh CDBG community development block grants which are funded to the state through HUD housing and urban development. Um we kind of pulled together those grants plus um community concept types of grants plus savings types of grants plus federal home loan making. So there's a lot of patchwork quilting of to help people stay whole, right? So, let's say you were in a very poor deteriorated home. Um, but you had no mortgage,

right? Right. You really could. We didn't want to put you in a home where suddenly you had this big mortgage. That's not the right. Right. So, can we get you into a home of that's decent? Like, we're not talking mansions, but Right. That

right, but it's not the mortgage. And so people who got some of that grant money to move into those homes, most of them have a I think a 30-year um for every year that you're in there, one 30th or one depending which sort of money you use, right? It gets written off. Oh, so at the end of 10 years or 30 years, whatever, you now own your home free. But if you try to sell your home after 10 years, let's say you still have another 10 years on your grant agreement, um 50% of the sale value has to come back to the town. And that grant if you had two people who have sold their homes that were involved in that program and the town's gotten that money back. Yeah.

And I don't know, they put it in a community development fund. They I don't know where they put that money to repurpose it for right on voting housing. I don't know. But um so does does the town still own property that's in flood zone? It owns the land. There should be no houses, right? But no houses. Yeah. Remember I was one we were going to try to cover on our map. Yeah. So why couldn't we develop those for like campsites where you could put an RV? You potentially could, right? But that has to be a community decision. Yeah. Absolutely do that. Yeah. Um and the town I don't think as a town wants to develop. They've said many many many times we are not in the development business. I do know that a nonprofit um has been formed.

How much do they want your taxes to go up? Well, I know that I mean that's the bottom line. I know that an independent nonprofit has been formed um now legal entity that can do that and say, "Okay, here's capac people with capacity can take on that work and help the town out do that kind of stuff. If that doesn't want to do it, they can do it." Oh, yeah. Yeah. But I mean the idea put forth that something like that can happen and there's nothing wrong with it. You don't have a lot of uh campsites and stuff are in flaw zones. Don't be there. You know it's that simple. I saw a girl stand one night and flooded everything.

Yeah. Can you get like a dozen sleeping bags and paint the laundry? I had a lot of little girls who were soggy such a that's just a way to use actually generate generate some use right there. I went to FEMA and said talk to me about lands all across the country these lands. Let's see what people Exactly. But it's he's like nobody's doing anything. You know, I s I've seen them sit there for a decade. That's right. We need to finish.

Exactly. recommending can be very helpful because a neutral third party is a hose thing that any one person get off some people really want to go known as a personality It's our third parties facilitate that. Yeah. Exactly. So, how will we put the uh share plan in progress?

So, I wanted to get a cost of what that's going to cost to do number one. Um and then see if we can do something with it grants and then see if there may be any other community grants. Like I'll I'll talk to Ash next week and see if there's something else that might be there. Um, and then if we can say, hey, this thing costs, I'm just making this number up. I know $50,000 and we've got 5,000 from here, 5,000 from here. Can we use Yeah. the remainder of this? What did you call that? The community fund. Yeah.

The resilience grant. Resilience. Yes. Okay. That's what I know. Sorry. First I got to get the number from making salt and I got much then I got and then the graph and then we'll select

Yeah. Sound like that's a good way to get the community immediately involved in the planning. Well, we did the original visioning. We had um pretty decent employ which again is actually pretty good turnout. Um but it's fun

but that's been co so people argue around anymore. So now it's it and I think that when the rubber meets the road and people have to say this is what we're going to do over the next 10 years it takes on a different set of accountability and I think people want to have a say in what they're going to do. Yeah. And I've heard I mean I've heard in the meetings here where people who are longtime citizens have said we cannot keep going the way we're going. We can't keep raising the cost of municipal services against a you know citizen population that's mostly on a fixed income. Yeah. And not increased. Right. Yeah. Well, our population as a town has increased. We're back to pre-bios

which is something else I hear a lot of people say about the buy this. Okay. But we're back to the numbers of people pre-bio. Yeah. And we So they've recovered from that. Yep. We've recovered from Yeah. Now they haven't recovered some in some ways because they're not the people that are on the water and that's I was just going to say that people have come in but have built out and a lot of people have built in the outcrops in it's in can but they're on the island correct. So that's I think that's part of what is still playing with do is say how do you optimize the number of users on water sewer? how you get housing and locations where you can leverage management services more effectively. Yeah. Makes sense.

So, is there anything we need for us to do to help you? Thanks. At that point, I'd love to figure out these grant applications. Okay. Well, I like to see and find out. I'm going to ask Kathy to get on the agenda for next week and then hopefully get enough information to do something next week.

You're going to be back. Oh yeah, this is my last trip. This is my last thing, but I'm looking forward to it. and get together with co-workers who own some really excited about that. Yeah. Thank you so much. I mean, come on. Not welcome. Oh, come with me. They're such a dog. having other topics to be added to the agenda.

I'd like to take the FAA or what? It's FA. What does it stand for? Oh, freedom of access. Yeah. Or freedom of information. They call it It's the It's basically freedom of information, but they don't call it that. They call it FOA. Here it is. It's on June 4th. It's just a webinar. I understand it the concept, but I would like to understand in detail.

Then u you need to email Kathy that planning board has approved well has approved your attendance of that and she can sign up for that. That's $40. Yep. That comes out the funding budget. But Daniel, are you okay with that? Did they always come back to the chairperson to ask if they included that expense? Oh, absolutely. Yeah.

Yeah. I want to Can we pull up everybody? Um I did not ear HDMI port on the side of them. Yeah, the big one. You have to move. I got you guys, right? So, it's just a little

Can you see that again? I've seen it before. I haven't seen it. So, content I'll have this so you can put on a link and I jump each page, but I kind of believe it right now. I just put them all in and so they'll have different chapters, right? both vision. See, this is where I want Yeah. I want things to be able to pop a little bit, right? Yeah. So, it's not so boring to read. So, you know, I haven't gotten too far, but this is what I'm going to keep going with if you guys like it. Maybe in a better. Yeah.

So, like we don't know where the goal we're going with, but Right. Right. Placeholders for formatting. Yes. Yes, great. It would be the best time ever.

All right, that was really like a head. This will be modified a lot on the site. It's in a folder called um PowerPoint. So I'm not changing anything on the existing word documents. I'm kind of pulling and putting into chapter finishing.

Oh, I have that one to reformat. So I'll do that. Remember he did now. Yeah. He likes this. I'll do it this week. So, which two are you doing? Because I think I went through one of yours and you did it. I did one of them. I did not PowerPoint, but I just like it cleaned up some other stuff. It was the first one I did. very social that

I did the other one which was very well you did fiscal responsibility or something maybe I think that economic development capacity inve Is it been change? No. At 75%. Let me see. Well, that's just the Excel sheet, right? Yeah. Economy and economic development. That's the one I upgraded. That's the second one. I What is How much? What is that one? We have both of that 75%.

The notes we set up. You could not have us a chapter with these two things together. Put them together. Okay. You put that in notes. I didn't want to have those two different things. What are the two things? Economic development. Fiscal capacity and capital investment plan and economy and economic development. Those be two separate things, right? Or are you saying is economy and economic development two separate things or are you saying those? You can't put all four of those in one thing. the note on the economy and economic development. This we did not have this as an earlier chapter to put these two things together. Okay. Okay. Question mark. Yeah.

I mean I think maybe and the note on fiscal capacity says we had this just as fiscal capacity. This may already be current may already be current in in that fiscal capacity. I'm just listening to when you were doing it. I think that was the first one. I think you did a lot of that when you were working on Well, I took out the people section because we already just a little paragraph there. Right. You did the people. Did you do any other part of it? I just looked at the format. Let's go. Let's go. Yeah. I am really

Yeah. Yeah. Sorry to say it look like all the other ones right at the top. Okay. I think that is Yeah, you did it. And I like I found that some of these like these numbers were like like I move them to like 0 0. So getting away with that planning those kind of things whatever you want to do works for me all the same type style I think I updated some of these

yeah we reviewed we reviewed those a year I mean at this point highway. This is right. So, okay, we could probably print that out when we did some office. I will do that. I do that because you know these numbers. So, the first one we did.

So, this was also not available back then. Right. Right. So, those Yeah. So, I I'll date all that, but the formatting is good. So, I'll just print it off, take it to the office, and see if I can until you're going to help. Okay. So much easier if you just help me. Yeah. Who would I talk? Would it be Aaron or Kathy? I Aaron helped me with that stuff when I came. He had access to the But Well, he was doing the treasurer's role for a short period of time and then he hired a treasurer.

Yeah. And so I don't know what is losing the treasurer. No. So she doesn't know who I can have access to dollar information. Not sure. Okay. All right. Well, I'll ask the other one. the uh economic economy and yeah we put that in that format with broader than I did that

but mostly power well and I feel like one thing too we don't necessarily need all I mean we can make it that's what I'm kind of doing as I'm going along so we'll have the word document and then Maybe we'll have a you got to summarize more succinct. Yeah, I don't cut out too much. That's important, right? I need to know that data, right? That's the point. We don't want to have to read through all that data.

Well, wouldn't couldn't the PowerPoint just be just bullet points of what each paragraph is about? I guess sit and work with it some more. I've only got the mission. I went as far as like mission, vision, set up, chapters, stuff like that. So, it's a lot. So, yeah, that's right. That's my goal. I would come back for a pretty full document. Well, in the old

in the old plan, which I think I've given away should have one. If not, they might be in that drive, right? There was basically a grid on the action plans that said, you know, here's the action. I don't even I don't if they had measurements and dates and timing. I don't think it went that far, but it was basically a big grid. Where's the action plan? Which kind of boggles your mind when you look at it. Um, so I was liking where you're going. You kind of said we're going to have we don't know yet. Maybe five maybe goals and each of those you maybe only have three actions. You have to meet those. I could talk about fiscal capacity. Well, blah blah blah blah blah. I was working off this this document, right? This is pretty nice how they get this together. Yeah.

Who's that one? This is out in Utah. Oh, but it's a similar thing, right? They had a I sent a proposal to them and I read their background documentary. So, I proposal.

Yeah. Right. So I was kind of born by but also looking too so pretty pictures. You take some beautiful pictures that we have. When I was active, it's like we both went home like how pretty sometime I had dinner and he said yeah is he can do the All right. Happy end. Anything else?

Great. Can we officially Who would like to motion to second?