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Evening. It'll be Monday, 05/18/2026, Kansas City Council regular meeting. Dan for the pledge of allegiance. Pledge allegiance.

Of The United States Of America

to the republic for which it stands, one nation

under God, indivisible,

with liberty and justice for all.

Roll the call, please, Alicia.

For Ashley? Here. Housing Bank?

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Burke? Who's that? Large?

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Rescue? Here. Forward is excused.

Thank you. We'll start the meeting with public comments. First will be in person comments followed by online comments. Public comments are the public's opportunity to provide comments to the council. While you may supplement your comments with printed handouts, electronic or digital aids will not be permitted during public comment. Please state your name, city of residence. You'll have three minutes. Please direct your comments to the council as a whole instead of individual members, staff, or audience members. And if anybody has comments, if you hear any one of the public comments, please come to the front, center chairs.

Good evening. Tyler Sanders with Camus. Tonight, I wanted to give a brief update about what, Strong Towns Canvas has been up to recently. Strong Towns Canvas is a growing group of engaged citizens that love what Canvas is and what Canvas can be. We believe that Strong Towns aren't possible without strong citizens, resilient places are built by many hands.

Our approach involves looking for the smallest thing we can do to make an impact in our city and to get our hands dirty with that as soon as possible. We recently accomplished a project, and and I've left you with handouts of the results of what that project was. Some of our group members noticed a patch of sidewalk along 7th Avenue where several of us walked regularly to get to downtown. This patch of sidewalk had been neglected for some time. The grass was overgrown.

Dirt had spilled onto the sidewalk, and the and debris from a nearby tree had piled on pretty thick. So we decided to put our money where our mouth is in terms of our passion for safe and comfortable pedestrian infrastructure by getting our hands dirty with a sidewalk cleanup project. We grabbed some shovels and brooms and and got to work. And with the combined efforts of just a small group of people, the sidewalks there were completely transformed in the span of a short afternoon, as you can see, from from the results in in these pictures at the left. We are really glad to be part of a community that produces people who care deeply for it.

For example, we we know that and we recognize that we weren't the only ones doing service projects this past weekend. I'm glad that whenever I talk to members of the council or staff, their their love for the city, is is very evident, and I know that we all want what's best for it. We hope that this council takes notice of the power of engaged citizens and the fact that this kind of citizen engagement is key to strong community and key to accomplishing our city's goals. As a group, we at Strong Towns Campus look forward to continue to be part, to do our part in contributing to the well-being of our community in the future. Thank

you, Tyler. Thanks for sharing the example of the work that was done.

I kind of go along with what this guy hit my end, Paul. Paul,

meet everybody. So let get all

the What your city of residence?

Yeah, miss. Thank you. Same thing. I kind of went came down here tonight, you guys. I wanted to ask you guys all about, you know, where is our pavement? Where is our tax dollars going here in this city? We're all paying off arms and legs, and I'm down here busting my butt. I want some damn pavement. In front of my house has turned into a gravel road with potholes in front of my house that y'all just raised my taxes on. I want some pavement. Who do we talk to about that? Can you guys answer that?

Oh, what's the address of, what's the address of your, street?

Live up on Norwood at the top of 10th Of Norwood.

K. Thank you.

K. Is that something that we can find out about, or you get some pavement, fill the potholes?

Yeah. You you've you've made us thank you, Paul. You've made us aware. K. Scott Collins is aware, and Scott will be the appropriate person for follow-up.

Okay. Perfect. Thank you. That sounds good.

So good evening, council chief Jones. I come here tonight

David David will be there.

My apologies. Yes. Thomas Brandt, city of Camas. So I wanted to first come and say, you know, right now, today is the forty sixth anniversary of Mount Saint Helens, you know, part of the beauty of where we live here in the Northwest. Right? And to get to the part of city of Canvas, why I'm proud to be in the city of Canvas as a resident. But one of the things I wanted to bring up tonight because, you know, you've seen me probably with the VFW. You've seen me do a lot of local things with charities. You have to activate dream activate churches dream center. We do a lot of outreach for the homeless in the community. One of the things I wanted to address tonight is with your public camping ban that's happened voted unanimously, I wanna say maybe one or two years ago. So not

to ever be, but it's

been long for a while.

Me, I live right on Weir Street and 2nd Avenue, which is right near the 1 Stop shopping plaza. And one of the concerns chief Jones, your staff

has done a great job, by the way.

So thank you for helping us keep the parking lot clean. So the parking lot

is what I wanna bring up tonight.

Have neighboring areas where the Rama ends across the street from Lechner. Right? And, you know, you know, the byways, a lot of times, we see a lot of very interesting people walk through there. How is it that we can help our homeless in the community better? Maybe not just keeping them off the street, but getting them the services that they need is why I came here tonight.

My neighbors might have had more nefarious reasons to wanna bring this up, but I'm trying to look at this from a doting, loving human. What can we do better to take care of our population there? So that way, they don't feel like they're just gonna kinda dump at the ramen in every time they're picked up for a call. And the other part of that too is with that parking lot that's behind my house, we have I, at least, have tried to stay away from calls for services to the police because I just try to see where we can help them out. But is there any plans so the bigger question I have, is there any plans to give them better housing besides the Rama Inn instead of just kinda, like, doing a vagrancy pickup? Like, here we go. This is Rama Inn. The city of Camas have anything in the works right now to help our our houseless population?

Thomas, this is an opportunity for you to to share to express your comments, but not for us to have open dialogue.

K. So that is my comments and my questions. So if someone wants to get back to me, they're more than welcome to. I will email the city clerk here probably in the next few days, and then we can have a dialogue about that. Because with the Dream Center, we can only do so much, like, refer them out to, like, you know, the council for the homeless or drug service. And if I'm running up on time, I'll make this kind of the last point. So I'm willing to partner and help anybody on the community that we can so we can help those get off the street, and then they're just being taken care of, you know, from a human to human perspective. So that's my statement for today, and then I'll reach out to

you guys probably a little bit later this week. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah.

Michelle, I can just contact. Good evening, council members. My name is Deborah Nagano, and I live in Camas. I wanna thank the city of Camas for recognizing May as Jewish American Heritage Month on its Facebook page. That acknowledgment matters, and I appreciate the city taking the time to make it.

I also hope that you all had a chance to review the many comments the post received, up to 400 at last count, because they reveal something important about the climate some of your residents are experiencing. Some comments were thoughtful and supportive. Others were deeply disturbing. They included hateful imagery like a rat, Holocaust denial, and statements dismissing Jewish identity and my heritage altogether. What is most troubling is that not only that these views were expressed, but that people felt comfortable expressing them so openly with their names.

One resident wrote that it was among the most prejudiced she had ever seen in our town and that it was incredibly sobering. She said if we can't love each other in this little big town, we don't have a chance. I share that concern. Another resident wrote, I'm a Jewish resident here. As you can see by the comments, antisemitism is a growing problem.

As a mom, I would be lying if I said I wasn't concerned about my children's future. Fear is real. No family in this community should have carry. Many of the other comments, I hope, came from a place of misunderstanding rather than a place of malice. But that also points out to a serious problem.

Too often, people form strong opinions without taking the time to learn, to listen, or to ask questions. A healthy community depends on curiosity, humility, and a willingness to understand one another before passing judgment. I stand here or I sit here today as I sit here today, I know that people may bring assumptions with them about who I am or what I'm going to say. That happens to all of us. But assumptions can become a barrier to understanding.

My hope is that we resist that instinct and choose to listen to one another with openness instead. I believe that one of the most important responsibilities in any community is to listen before deciding and to ask questions before drawing conclusions. I hope that spirit guides how the city engages with residents, especially when they come forward with concerns. Camas is a home to thoughtful, caring, and engaged people, and and all of those voices deserve to be heard. That is why I returned to the Facebook post.

The comments were painful, but they were not surprising. And to tell you the truth, I kinda wanted you to see them. They reflected the hostility many Jewish residents have felt with increasing frequency. For many of us, that hostility creates fear, isolation, and the sense that we are not fully seen or protected in our own community. I am asking you to recognize that reality and to help foster a city where every resident feels safe, respected, and included.

I also welcome conversation. There are a lot of Jewish residents here. And if some of these attitudes are because of lack of knowledge, I am available to talk to any of you or give you books anytime, any day. If anyone to speak to me, I'm happy to answer. And as my favorite new

Excuse me, Deborah. We are over three minutes.

I got one more thing. And my favorite new expression, and I hope you'll all take this, is by Walt Whitman. And it's be curious, not judgmental. Thank you.

Thank you, Deborah.

Good evening, everyone. My name is Pete Viaget.

I'm a resident here in Canvas, And, Ira and I also own a business here at Downtown Canvas, Canvas Bike And Sport, otherwise known as Canvas Bikes. Owned business for the past seven years. And I'm here this evening to hear some thoughts about, really amazing opportunity for the city of Camas, to bring more people, visitors outside of Camas, Google, and beyond, well beyond, to make Camas a destination that people want to come to even more than they do today to recreate, to live here, and have a better quality of life. My business exists because I believe that everyone has an opportunity to be recreating in this area and particularly around bikes. I I find that being something that, brings people together, creates opportunities for people to have better health, have fun, make it a sport, get to get to know other people in the community.

And the the the effects of riding a bike aren't just health in the way of of physical health. It's about mental health as well. Plenty of data suggest that when people do ride their bikes, it allows them to think about the things they're doing while riding and putting other things aside, but also have ability to reflect on those things. So when we're thinking about what having a mountain bike, destination could be here in Canvas. It's about more than just the dollars.

But think about budgets. Organizations, within municipalities around the country and locally, time and time again, have demonstrated that when they take their open spaces

for recreation

and turn them into from a budget negative organization because all the staff, all of the things to, maintain, and moving it into mountain bike destination where it becomes a recurring building source not for one year, but for many, many years. Twenty years from now, it will be an asset to the organization. City, again, bring more people to it. There's a lot behind that, and I I wanna say, first of all, that this conversation that I'm bringing to the table would not happen without, director Kowski's, vision and bringing together, the resources that can make this happen. And I just wanna say that, whether it's for my business or for everyone here in Canvas and the people who will visit here in the future, having the the great gems that we have, Lake West Park, Lake, the Legacy Lands, all those things can be turned into a revenue source and, wow, maintaining the recreation that we want here.

Not putting in more strip malls, not putting in more hotels necessarily, but really, creating a future for Canvas. So I thank everyone here. Think about what we're doing. Take the opportunity, which I truly believe can be a, generational opportunity for Canvas.

Thank you, Pete. Thank you.

My name is Christopher Bloom, and I am a Camus resident. Good evening, council. You're probably wondering about the helmet. It serves two purposes. First, we're gonna talk about a bike park tonight. And, second, I'm very bald, and I don't want to blind you all with some reflection. Like I said, my name is Christopher Bloom. I'm CAMS resident, and I ride a mountain bike at Lackamas Park three or four times a week. I also sit on the council of the Southwest Chapter's Green Mountain Bike Alliance, the largest single organization in designing and maintaining single track in Washington state. Demand for a bike park in Camas isn't theoretical.

It's already in our city. The local Nykaa youth mountain biking team is one of the most popular in the region and grows every single season. Lackamas Park is busier than ever, and people like me, thousands of us across Washington, drive out of Canvas every weekend to ride somewhere else. Tonight, I'm asking that we keep that money in town. The economic base is frankly astoundingly in our favor. We sit inside one of the densest mountain biking populations on the West Coast. Portland and Vancouver together are home to tens of thousands of riders, and every weekend, a steady stream of them get

in their

cars and drive an hour or more looking for trails. Right now, they're driving past Camas to get to Yalkelburn to the North, Sandy Ridge, Stubb Stewart. A '2, 2025 Trust for Public Land and IMBA report found that every that even day trip mountain bikers typically spend a $100 or more per visit at restaurants, bike shops, and retail near the trails. Multiply that by a few 100 riders a weekend, every weekend, and the math gets real

real fast.

What I wanna talk about, though, isn't just dollars. Studies from Indiana to Sedona have shown that homes near well built trail systems see adjusted property values rise as a real tax base benefit. But the bigger story is what these places do for people. They get kids outside. They give families something to do. Right? It doesn't cost $40 a head every weekend. Mountain biking communities are some of the tightest knit groups I've ever been a part of, and a bike park gives Camas a place for that community to put down roots right here instead of an hour up the road. So look at what we already have on the table. We have a $325,000 budget.

We have the land possibly and legacy lands. We have Evergreen, a nonprofit whose crews are available to make this dream come true. Every dollar CAMIS spends on this project stretches significantly farther through Evergreen than it would through any private contractor. We talked to the, CAMIS Parks and Rec Commission a few weeks ago. I think it went pretty okay. The land is here. The money is here. The community is here. The expertise is here, and it's affordable. I'd love for Canvas to be a city we drive to and city instead of a city we drive away from.

Thank you. Thanks, Christopher.

Darcy, Camus, Washington. The

last

meeting I saw Airbnb, bike park, everything else. I this. I this because we have poisoned water. I have reverse osmosis at my house, and I'm not the only one because of poisoned water. And thank you to whoever went up and put the sign up at the broken sign crosswalk and sidewalk.

After years of talking about that being broken, there's at least a sandwich board over it. Gammes has a lot to do in the existing city. It's the city. Like, how it was talked about at the last meeting that you used to have to drive across the free across 14 to get up the road. You don't anymore.

Before we talk about doing sidewalks and everything else up off of one ninety second, the one place that we've been talking about for over twenty seven years is Lake Road. You have kids who walk that to go to school. There never even used to be that little patch on the one side where bikes could ride. My son would get grounded so many times coming from his friend's house walking home because he'd have to walk in the ditch. We have necessities of existing things.

Great. We have the land. Let people open businesses, pay to open businesses, volunteer to open businesses, and Airbnb. We aren't a business. This city, every single year, is getting deeper and deeper in debt and less and less business. We are pretty much a property tax state, and that's pretty bad. So and I'm not trying to sound like a witch to anybody, but just to get people to remember. Yeah. It's great to think, want this. I want this.

No. The city as a whole, just come down into downtown. You have a parking spot that you have to back up into the crosswalk right by Natalia's across the street. That's crazy. The sidewalk's horrible all over. And then, you know, it is nice to see people do things within the community. You know? It's I'm gonna stop for right now until the end of the meeting, but nothing is met as a chastise. I just get passionate. Thank you. You guys.

Good evening, counsel. My name is Dan Derundra. I'm a resident of CAMAS, and I just served on the, committee for, examining the form of government issue. And you just I believe you guys got the reports today, so I'm not gonna be talking about the substance of the report. But I did wanna make a comment about the the process.

And I got under the committee and and, found that not really surprising, like, you know, very much many people were very much very much for this idea. And, you know, how that happens how the community gets, you know, populated in a certain way is interesting. Maybe because, you know, there are just certain people that are interested in that topic, so they all get on the committee. Fortunately, we have one of our council members here, Alison Craig, that asked to make sure that we have, you know, different opinions on the committee. So we we did have a variety, you know, at least a little bit variety.

And, so you probably already know this process. You probably are familiar how committees end up like this. So just because a committee recommends something, I would just say, that's it's not it's no surprise that they ended up recommending as they did. And, and I would just ask that, the the the council here look at the logic, and I won't speak to the logic at all tonight. You guys go ahead and you can read your your reports, and then I probably will be back with my comments on that.

Thank you.

Thanks, Dan. Anybody else wish to make any public comments? Do we have anybody on?

Yes. My name is Joel Soppet. I'm a resident of Camas.

I'm

here to speak on behalf of the Raku annexation that's being presented to the council this evening.

Wait on that. Excuse me, Joel. Mhmm.

See you. Just a second. Is he is he the property owner or no?

No. I'm a neighbor.

Oh, he can he can speak to it then. That's all.

Thank you, Joel. You may continue. Thank you.

Mhmm. So as a neighbor, I'm here to speak in favor of this. This I know it's a single property, and the council may have questions why the city would go through the troubled annex a single property. In this particular case, this is a key piece of property that will enable future homes that are being planned as part of the Norris Road annexation that happened last year. By annexing this property, it will enable us to implement gravity fed sewer systems as opposed to step systems.

As the council probably is aware, step systems not only cost more to install, but they also cost the city money on an ongoing basis in order to service those. So it benefits everyone to be able to service those properties with gravity based systems. For that reason, I'm asking the city council to go ahead and approve the RACU annexation at the 10% level tonight. Thank you.

Thank you, Joel. Any other comments? Okay. Thank you. This will close the public comment section. There will be another opportunity at the end of meeting. Next order of business is the consent agenda.

It

was moved by council member Burke, second, and is second by council member council member Elsin Gray to approve the consent agenda. Any discussion? Can you hear us council member Eschke? Okay.

Yes. Thank you.

No discussion. Make a vote, please.

Just me all in favor.

All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes.

Your announcements, I've got two to announce, this week. First is the public works public works week proclamation.

Whereas

public works services provided in our community are an integral part of our citizens' everyday lives and whereas the support of an understanding and informed citizenry is vital to the efficient operation of public work systems and programs such as water, sewers, water resources, streets and highways, public buildings, and solid waste collection, and whereas the health, safety, and comfort of the City Of Canvas community greatly depends on these facilities and services, and whereas the quality and effectiveness of these facilities as well as their planning, design, and construction are vitally dependent upon the efforts and skill of public work managers and staff, and whereas the efficiency of qualified and dedicated personnel to staff public works departments are really influenced by the attitude and understanding of the importance of the work they perform. And whereas the City Of Camas currently has close to 70 hardworking individuals serving the City Of Camas, who take pride in providing the highest level of services given the resources available. Now therefore, I, Tim Hine, mayor pro tem of the City Of Camas, hereby proclaim the week of May 2026 as National Public Works Week in the City Of Camas and urge all citizens to acquaint themselves with the issues involved in providing our public works and to recognize the contributions that city of Camas public works managers and staff make daily for health, safety, comfort, and quality of life.

In which, thereof, my signature, mayor Pro Tem. Thank you, Scott. You and your department.

What? There's so far, man.

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Guys, don't I do have a few minutes of things that I wanted to touch on if that's okay. There's a lot of divisions, so bear with me. It won't be an hour, like, last. But, really wanted to touch on the amazing work from our public works department. They touch a lot of aspects within a city, sometimes ones that we don't realize.

And so really wanted to highlight the lead of each division and kinda what they do and oversee engineering department. Justin Monstro, they oversee 54 active capital projects, provide project management inspection, grant coordination, and oversight, handle third party encroachment permits as well as assist with grant applications and exhibits, respond to public concerns for safety and roadway operations. Facilities is overseen by Ryan. Gave me maintain 16 facilities, four rental properties, nearly a 184,000 square feet with multiple buildings with fire suppression monitoring systems, safe 58 HVAC units, 16 small and large, unit heaters, six roof mounted exhaust fans, three cooling towers, four boilers, 19 water heaters, and six backup generators with two employees before this year. A fleet and equipment rental with Keith Mabry, they oversee all the city city fleet vehicles outside of fire app purchases.

They see oversee a 175 vehicles and pieces of equipment, which range from garbage trucks, street sweepers, dump trunks, police vehicles, trailers, and specialized utility utility utility vehicles. They've completed approximately a 100 active repair and maintenance work orders just in March alone. Over the past few months, have had 90 to 95%, preventive maintenance compliance. Our streets department's overseen by Scott Perkapal. They oversee a 137 centerline lane miles, three hundred and third and 313 lane miles of roadway, oversee approximately 3800 Street, 12 by 12 signalized intersections, have 170 miles of sidewalk, and over 31,000 linear feet of guardrail while also maintaining thousands on thousands of street signs.

They're also the great crew that perform the street closures for DCA, the city, and the chamber. Stormwater departments overseen by TJ Crawford. They maintain three dams at over 69,000 catch basins and manholes, have nearly 200 miles of stormwater conveyance systems that are MS four permanent area, maintain a 100 stormwater treatment facilities, maintain nearly 4,400 detention pipes, eight miles of ditch line, a 132 culverts, and 65 outfalls. Twenty twenty five has completed over 3,000 inspections of catch basins, a 100 stormwater facilities, maintain more than 23 miles conveyance pipe, removed a 164,000 pound pounds of sediment and debris, completed 89 dam inspections, and and conducted 84 hotspot inspections. Stormwater, MPDS crews overseen by Brian Monin, Department of two that conducted 540 stormwater facility inspections, 70 inspections dealing with illicit discharges, six month development inspections, source control, alfalfa screening.

They GPS nine new developments, with their stormwater infrastructure and oversee all stormwater capital projects and grant funding. Our water division is overseen by Brandon Prather. They've produced approximately 1,700,000,000 gallons of drinking water in 2025, operate and maintain 10 wells, 10 booster stations, eight reservoirs, and 10 and a half millions of gallons of storage. They maintain a 158 miles of conveyance water pipe and over 10,700 metered services while ensuring over 5,000 backflow devices are in compliance of

each year.

Sewer is overseen by Jay Martell. They maintain a 157 miles of sewer infrastructure, maintain more than 5,000 siphon tanks, and oversee and maintain two calcium nitrate stations for odor control, and maintain hundreds of air release valves. Our wastewater treatment plant overseen by Carl Stevens, they operate and maintain our lift station as well as 28 our treatment plant as well as 28 lift stations. They treated approximately 1,100,000,000 gallons of wastewater, removed approximately 1,400,000 pounds of organic waste, produced 1,300,000 cubic feet of nitrous or gas, produced 350,000 pounds of class a bio solids for beneficial use, conduct over 6,000 regular, regulatory analysis in our lab, and completed over 800 work orders with more than 90% of them planned or scheduled. Our sanitation department, which is Gary Reed, provide garbage collection services, citywide residential, commercial schools, and public facilities, collect more than 1,000,000 pounds of trash, equaling up to 500 to 700 tons monthly.

They've collected as much as 80 tons in a single day. Parks, which is overseen by Nick McCrory. Even though they're in the parks department, They are part of our operations team, so I thought it was good to highlight them. They maintain 15 parks, eight facilities over a thousand acres of open space, maintain 11 miles of trails, 31 irrigation systems, and maintain eight eight acres of medians of right away. They also have 80 acres of weekly fine mowing and 65 acres of annual field mowing and also maintain 11 rush rooms, 14 garbage cans, 13 dog waste. So you see myself, you see Rob, you see Curly, and you see Will Newman. But there's a lot of men and women in our department that do amazing work on this, and so I just really wanted to highlight them today. Thank you very much.

There you go. Pretty much junior team. I would say that one of the most fascinating aspects of our job is learning about the details of the city and everything that departments like do to keep things running. We only call you when there's a problem. So thanks again. Yeah. Please.

Scott, fascinating information. If there's any way to put that in a Word doc or an email, I would love to have it. So, yeah, no rush, but document it for me because I

I'll have to go through it

a couple of them. But thank you.

It's Brian. Rachelle can do a little special communication. I'm here with the community. Chris, not to leave not to leave you out at all. Next, it's, happy to announce that it's water safety month proclamation.

Whereas the citizens of Camas recognize the vital role that swimming and equestrian activities contribute to good physical, mental health, and enhance the quality of life for all people. And whereas the City Of Camas is a thriving cohesive community that values and stewards its parks, open spaces, and natural bodies of water, whereas the Camas community enjoys access and recreational activity in and around multiple bodies of water, including Blackmist Lake, Blackmist Creek, Falling Lake, Falling Lake, Washoe River, Columbia River, and along small streams, and whereas the city of Camas is aware of contributions the made by the recreational water industry to provide programs in healthy places to recreate, learn and grow, build self esteem, confidence, and sense of self worth worth contributes to the quality of life in our community. And whereas nationally engaged, eleven people die each day from unintentional drowning. Whereas drowning is the second leading cause of death among children ages one to 14, whereas it is understood that water safety education plays an essential part of preventing drowning, recreational water related injuries, and whereas it is vitally important to communicate information about water safety rules and programs to families and individuals of all ages, including private pool owners or visitors to public facilities, lakes, rivers, and water parks.

Now, therefore, I, Tim Hine, mayor pro tem of the City Of Camas, do hereby proclaim May 2026 as water safety month in the city Of Camas and encourage all citizens to join in this observance, signed eighteen May twenty twenty six. So thank you, Chris, for all the work that you've done, especially the last year, in terms of notification, communication, trying to increase awareness of safety and how to prevent issues in the future.

Thank you. Let me just say it's not one department or one person, on behalf of chief Jones and chief Free and school board and all the partners involved in water safety, on the water safety committee. We just wanna highlight that, you know, as you mentioned, we have lots of different water recreation opportunities here from streams to lakes to rivers. Each one of them brings its own opportunity for fun, but also brings its own challenge and danger. And so we just people to be aware, know your limits.

The water is cold. Even when it's 95 degrees outside, that water can be chilly. It can create quite the shock. And with undercurrents and everything else we have, just know your limits and be safe. And I'd sit behind a desk, but it's it's the emergency services who have to go out and respond to those calls. So no one likes to to to respond to that. So be safe.

Thank you.

Meeting items, twenty twenty six twenty twenty eight collective bargaining agreement between the city of Camas and the Camas Camas Public Employees Association. Presenter, Jennifer Gorsuch, administrative services director.

Alright. Good evening, everyone. So before you tonight is a three year collective bargaining agreement with Canvas Public Employees Association. The contract runs through 2028, and the members ratified it earlier this month. The terms were bargained as authorized by council in closed session. This union currently represents about 57 clerical, professional, and technical employees in 41 different classifications across the city. They're in every single department except for the library. The library has their own union. I'm And gonna follow with what Scott did, and I'm gonna now name off all 57 people. No.

I'm not gonna. I think I could, though. The contract includes annual wage increases that are tied to CPI, also includes some necessary market wage adjustments for 2026 that are commensurate with our comparability data. The city's strategic plan has an engaged workforce priority, and proper compensation will help keep us competitive and be able to recruit and retain employees. It'll help us with succession planning and encourages career development and internal promotions when possible.

So the standard cost of living adjustment for 2026 was already included in the city budget, and then the additional budget needed for the contractual market wage increases is approximately 350,000. Of that 350,000, a portion was already included in the recently approved omnibus, and the remainder can be reallocated within this current city budget, with position vacancies and some other items that will not be fully expended. So there's no additional funding being requested from you this evening for this contract. I wanna thank the CPEA bargaining team. It was Joe Vertiska, Tara Carlin, and Tony Culver for their good communication, and collaboration during the process.

And I would recommend that council authorize mayor and city administrator to sign the three year agreement.

Thank you. Any questions for Jennifer?

The twenty twenty six, twenty twenty eight collective bargaining agreement between the city of Camas and the Camas Public Police Association as presented. Authorize the mayor and city administrator to sign this agreement.

Second. I

have a motion by council member Burke and a second by council member Swalarc to approve the twenty twenty six, twenty twenty eight collective bargaining agreement between the city of Camas and and the Canvas Public Employees Association. Any discussion?

I just wanna thank Doctor. Gorsuch because having negotiated many contracts, it can be a thankless job. You conduct yourself every day with our employees and our directors. You've created this respectful, collaborative environment that makes those agreements somewhat not easy, somewhat easier. I just wanna thank you.

Thank you. I appreciate that.

Councilwoman Elder Gray. Yeah.

And I and I wanna second that. And and I remember when we when we talked about it in council and when we set the limits. So I wanna thank you and the union for staying within that so that we could, stay within our balanced budget. So Welcome. Good job.

Thank you. Thank you.

Joanna, thank you, Jennifer. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes. Thanks again, Jennifer. Next order of business is the Yuri Rakuten annexation, 10% notice of intent. Senator is Robert Vaughn, planning manager.

Good afternoon, evening, mayor pro tem and council. Let me pull up the PowerPoint here and get that started for you here. Uh-oh. My screen completely just went out on me. What can you see?

See your presentation.

Yeah. We see your presentation.

Oh, there we go. Good. Good. Okay. It's it's moving a little slow here. In presentation

mode, however.

There we go. Okay. Good. Alright. So before this evening is an annexation request for one parcel as mister Sopid had discussed earlier in citizen comments.

I think every council member, except for council member Eschke, has been through an annexation or two with this process, albeit council member Eschke sat through these from a planning commission standpoint, which has a slightly different role in assigning zoning designations and so forth. So the city of Canvas, like most cities within Washington state, use the direct petition method as authorized by RCW 35 a 14. This is tied to the Growth Management Act. You know, there are 10 methods of annexations overall, but the direct petition method is widely accepted as the preferred method because it really allows the property owners to have a voice with the in terms of their signature and valuation of their properties. You know, generally speaking, when we we do these annexations, staff does like to have nice larger cohesive sections so it's more efficient.

You know, the the in order to be annexed, the land has to be within the urban growth area. And the urban growth area is something that has been planned for through the growth management act as mister Peters has been, sharing with you over the last year and a half as we do our update. So these areas that to be annexed have already been expected to have development opportunities in the future. There are a few steps with, the the direct petition method, the first of which is the notice of intent 10%, which is what we're doing this evening. This is a public meeting, not a hearing.

We are required to meet with the, the party or at least to have this presided. And counsel has complete discretion as to whether or not we annex the the the property or not. There's three there's three different choices before you, to accept it as proposed or to modify the boundary, which can mean expanding it or making it smaller. In this case, when I get to a map, I'll show you. The the only real option is to expand, and we'll talk about that in a moment.

And the third is just to completely reject it, and then it stops right there. And there's no recourse for rejecting an annexation because Clark County does not have a boundary review board. This that was disbanded, gosh, I wanna say fifteen to eighteen years ago when Betty Sue Morris was still in the the county commission. This particular site, as mister Soppen indicated, is just south of the Norris Road annexation. Here's just a general location map relative to Woodburn Elementary and and Crown Road.

You could see there are four other properties that directly abut this particular property. All five, including the proponent site, had expressed a desire not to be included in the Norris Road annexation. However, the site in question, the property owner sold it in, November, and the property owner does wanna be in. So that was and it was about five, six months after the annexation ordinance for Norris Road had been adopted by council. Here's a little bit better, zoom, of the map.

You know, this particular site does take access off of a private road off of Crown. They are not directly proposing to develop the property themselves, although it it would potentially be tied into the potential subdivision to the north, which is gonna be helpful in terms of expanding utilities and so forth further north for to enable development. I mean, sure, you know, we could look to annex and expand the boundary to include those other four, but they were very clear about a year and a half ago, those particular owners, they emailed all council and mayor that they did not wanna be part of it. So in this case, I you know, staff respects their wishes and would support the annexation of just this one particular parcel. And for reference, here's what the North Road annexation looked like.

That was actually, a year tomorrow is when the ordinance was signed.

Okay. The

comprehensive plan designation for the particular site is single family high, which really only allows for one zoning designation, which nearby is r six, six thousand square foot lots on average. This this is our current zoning map on online, so it does not reflect the addition of the North Road annexation, but it that land is also zoned r six. So, you know, that concludes the slides that I have. You know, in the staff report, I had indicated that, you know, staff does recommend, approval. We're moving forward with this 10%.

See if I could stop sharing at the same time too, so you don't have to look at this. Here we go. I swear I've clicked on it. It will it will stop. Is it still share sharing right now?

No. It's not, Robert.

Oh, there we go. Hot tub. The next steps, assuming you wanna accept it as is tonight, staff will set up a workshop with, the planning commission and then a public hearing with the planning commission to affix the zoning designation. Meanwhile, the applicant will need to submit, 60% signature and, a perimeter legal description of the property, both of which we would send to Clark County for authorization. County typically will then send a letter back saying annex and be happy, and then we'll set a public hearing date with city council to formally adopt an ordinance bringing the property into the city limits.

The city clerk, I believe, has prepared three options for motions for you, so they should be available to you. I'm happy to answer any questions that you have.

Thank you, Robert. Does anybody have questions for Robert? We're large.

Thank you, mayor Pro Tem.

Robert, I I'm a little new to this. There only one owner of this property?

And so

there's a 10% to 60%, but it's really a moot point. Is that correct?

Yeah. I mean, it it makes it easy. It's like you got a 100% off the bat. So, you know, it every I've been doing this for twenty six years now. Gosh. I've had dozens of annexations in Battleground and here in Camas, and they're all different. Sometimes when

you have I I just wanted to understand it. How big is that property?

2.3 acres or, yeah, 2.37. Yeah.

It's You said it's huge.

A private road. Is is that correct?

Mhmm.

Do you think it'll be connected to city streets at some point? Or will always be on a private road?

Well, you know what? I guess it all depends on how it may be folded into a development proposal to the north, but I don't see that there would be enough right of way to have it go North South. Maybe they could take a driveway off of the existing public road behind it, but that's really gonna be up to mister Caruthers and mister Collins and what makes sense. And then it does it would affect how they address and so forth. But, you know, at this point, current access is off private route. And I'm Thank you. Mhmm.

Council member Reschke.

Oh, thank you. Thanks, Robert, for explaining a little bit more for my benefit. I appreciate it. I wanna ask about the access. So you mentioned it's a it's a private road perhaps shared with the other properties south. So if this property is annexed, would the property owner also require, as part of that annexation requirements, to have the other property owners agree with, still keep that private access?

Yeah. That doesn't change. I mean, that's private access for those five lots. I really I'm not sure what the easement language is between those five properties, but it's it's a civil matter. You know, if they were to develop the site, you know, we have standards for, you know, private road access to be expanded, you know, but but it's all based on depth and how many units are accessing off of that.

The half of that site's pretty wet. I don't you know, even if it's pull pulled into

or

somebody wants to, you know, do their own development on it, your the lot yield's not gonna be significant. But it really all depends on what they wanna do and which will then dictate, do they come off that private road to the east or or to the West rather or private road to the East or the public road to the West.

Sure. Well, I

mean, yeah. No. You answered my question. I was worried about future development and how that would affect the other single family houses. I yep. Yeah. Thank you. There are design requirements that they have to meet. That got yeah.

Thank you.

Joel, I procedurally, I've seen you raise your hand. Technically, you don't have an opportunity to speak during this portion of the meeting.

May I clarify that, Robert? So just that for everybody, frankly, that this is really a process decision. The 10 We're at the 10% level. Ordinarily, you'd have to say, go forth, get 60%. It's kind of a done deal, but just for, you know, just for edification purposes, you're when you say accept, you're not truly accepting the annexation today. You reserve the right to reject it or accept it at the next stage. And so, truly, this is just a process issue. You could certainly then that's over. But when we say accept, you get another bite of this apple, I guess, what I want to emphasize.

As your public comment. Pardon? As as would public comments.

You would you would have public input at that point, public hearing. Exactly.

Right. Thank you.

Laura. Mayor Pro Temp, I

move to accept the boundary of the proposed Yuri Raku annexation as legally described, recorded the adoption of a subsequent zoning designation upon determination pursuant to RCW 35 a fourteen three forty and require the assumption of all existing city indebtedness by this area to be annexed.

Motion? That is a motion. Is there it's a motion. Is there a second? Moved by council members for large and seconded by council member Burke to accept the boundary of the post Yuri Raku annexation as legally described to require the adoption of a subsequent zoning designation upon termination pursuant to RCW 35 a one one four point three four zero require the annex the assumption of all existing city indebtedness by this area to be annexed. Any discussion? All in favor? Aye.

Aye. Aye.

All opposed? Any opposed? The motion passes. Thank you. Thank you, Robert.

Have a good evening. Thank you.

Next order of business is approved Northwest Lake Road and Sierra Street intersection improvements. National service agreement amendment number four with McKay Saucito for an amount not to exceed 112,159. Presenter is James Carruthers, engineering medicine. Early

Thank you, mayor pro tem. Good evening, council. As stated, this is the Northwest Lake Road and Sierra Street intersection improvements professional services agreement amendment four. This amendment was covered in detail at the May 4 council workshop. PSA amendments are typically placed on the council consent agenda after being introduced at a workshop.

However, staff sensed that the workshop that this item could be a split vote and therefore decided to place it on the regular meeting agenda as a separate voting topic for council. And with that, staff recommends council approve the Northwest Lake Road and Sierra Street intersection improvements professional services agreement amendment four with McKay Spaceto for an amount not to exceed $112,159. Be happy to take any questions that you might have.

Any questions for Kerlin? Councilmember Sinescu.

Thank you, mayor pro tem.

Thank you, Kerlin. Thank you for sending me the May 4. I could have looked that up myself. So rather than say look it up yourself, you sent it to me. I appreciate that. It it outlines, very well, the original PSA, the first amendment, second, third, and this request for a fourth. So I guess my question is, were these amend I mean, sometimes amendments are not anticipated, but it looks like these were very anticipated based on the original was based on the alternatives analysis. Amendment one was public engagement. So it looks like this kind of is following the way that it's supposed to go down. Is that

This is the way yes. Staff and candidate. Yes.

Okay. Alright. Thank you so much for that. I appreciate it.

K.

Council member Elsengre. Hey, Curly. Thanks for all the information. I just have one question, and perhaps I should know this. This is primarily because the project is being extended twelve months. Correct?

No. There were some items that came out of there. I mean, there's there's some changes. There were some changes to the water main. There was also some changes that came out of the negotiations with the, homeowners. And so some of this is just, additional work, that, you know, basically got added because of, furthering the design and discussions with the homeowners that we need property from.

Yeah. I'm I'm looking at the first bullet on exhibit a that says additional project management, subconsulting coordination, schedule management required due to the project extending an additional twelve months beyond what was assumed in amendment two?

Yes. That's that's part of it. I'm I'm sorry. I understood your question to be this was predominantly because of that. There is there is additional cost from more time, but there there were other items that were added to the, amendment that are, new work that's being done. It's not just the additional time alone.

Yeah. Thing. I yeah. There's there's four other bullets, so I guess I was just picking on one. But the one particular one, I just and you guys run a tight ship. I I'm just just for my own curiosity, what caused the extra twelve month? Is it all the other bullets here, the quality control, public outreach, design, and all these? Is that what extended at twelve month?

So, part of the extension was the it was the negotiations with the property owners. That was, negotiations also take sometimes take longer than anticipated, so we are still dealing with a couple of the property owners negotiating with them. So that that's that is part of it. That's that's kind of the the main part of the extra time is getting through the right of way acquisition.

Thanks, Kerley.

Also, missus.

Thank you. So, Kerley, are we still online for the $3,000,000 budget for the overall project

within the

the construction would be next year, and it's it's now higher than $3,000,000.

Awesome. May I follow-up? So I'm just gonna make a comment. I I've been very vocal, against this project, and so I don't want to be an antagonist. The reality is it's going forward. So, thank you for all your work. I appreciate it.

Shirley, I've got one question for you. What would you estimate the current, project will cost now if you say it's above the 3,000,000? What do you think it'll end up at now?

Well, at this workshop, I was saying 3,400,000. That's the, that would be the latest cost that I have for the construction.

Mainly material cost increase?

Material cost, just more, more work. There's more storm water. I think there's more wall work. There's more sidewalk lighting than what than what we started with. We're providing a complete sidewalk on the on the South Side. So we've got a shared use path. The so so there's several items that add to the cost, not to mention, yeah, the timing of it and and costs are going up.

Thank you. Councilwoman Sunescu.

This will be my last. So you said that you're anticipating, I guess, guesstimate, 3,400,000 on the project, on the construction costs. So this does not include the, consultant and the almost million dollars we're spending there. Is that correct?

That's correct.

So we're looking at over $4.04 and a half million project. We thought it gonna be 3 at

the time.

The timing is gonna be two.

Thank you. Councilmember Splarsh.

Yeah. I'm ready to make a motion.

Okay. Any other any other questions for Kerlan?

Dear pro tem, I move to approve the Northwest Lake Road and Sierra Street intersection improvements, Professional services agreement amendment number four with McKay Spaceto for the amount not to exceed $112,159.

Second.

It was moved by councilmember Spilarich and seconded by councilmember councilmember Elsin Gray to approve the Northwest Lake Road and Sierra Street intersection improvements, professional services agreement amendment number four with McKay Spazito for a an amount not to exceed $112,159. Any discussion? All in favor? Aye.

Aye. Aye.

All opposed? The motion passes. Thank you, Carly.

Thank you.

Next order of business is resolution number 26Dash007 authorizing the vacation of a public waterline easement, and the presenter is, really, once again, engineering manager.

Thank you once again, mayor pro tem. Resolution 26Dash007 authorizes the vacation of a pop public waterline easement within the Camas Woods subdivision development site, which is just north of Camas High School. This item was first introduced to council at the April 6 workshop. A public hearing was held on May 4, and council directed the city attorney to prepare the resolution that is before you this evening. This resolution states that the developer will will remove and dispose of the abandoned waterline within the Camas Woods 1 development. Staff recommends adoption of resolution 26 dash zero zero seven. I'm happy to take any questions you might have.

Any questions for Curly? Any motions?

I move to approve resolution number 26Dash007.

Second.

It was moved by council member Burke, seconded by council member Swilarch to approve resolution number 20 6Dash007. Any discussion? Good. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Resolution would be read by title only.

Resolution number 20 six-seven, a resolution pursuant to RCW 30 authorizing the vacation of a public waterline easement.

That motion passed. Thank you. Next is a public hearing to consider the vacation of a portion of Northwest Oregon Street. And the presenter is, Curley, engineering manager.

Thank you once again, mayor pro tem. Can you see my screen alright?

Yes. Thank you.

Are the maps large enough to see? Somewhat. You don't have to be able to read all of them. I'm just gonna use them, for description here. So this public hearing is to consider the vacation of the unimproved Northwest Oregon Street right of way from the north right of way line of Northwest 6th Place North approximately 200 feet as depicted in exhibit c, which is on your right.

This vacation petition has an issue has been initiated by the owner of both adjacent properties on either side of the right of way, and that owner is one in the same. There are no other adjacent property owners. The approximate area included in the vacation petition is 8,192 square feet. There are no existing public improvements or utilities within this area. This item was introduced to council at the April 6 workshop, and council set this evening's public hearing date by resolution adoption at the April 20 council meeting.

This area is encumbered by a small portion of a private driveway. This encumbrance is described in exhibit b as an easement that would be reserved for the homeowners that currently use the driveway for access. RCW thirty five seven nine zero four zero states, if any street or alley in any city or town is vacated by the city or town council, the property within the limits so vacated shall belong to the abutting property owners, one half to each. RCW thirty five seventy seven zero three zero states that the vacation ordinance may provide that the vacation shall not go into effect until the abutting property owner has paid in an amount not to exceed the full appraised value of the area vacated if the right of way has been in existence for more than twenty five years. This right of way is well over twenty five years old.

The maximum of half the appraised value may be charged for right of way less than twenty five years old that hasn't been purchased with public funds. The Northwest Oregon Street right of way, as I said, is well over 25 years old. The petitioner purchased the lot shown in green on the left aerial. They purchased that in 2025 at a cost of approximately $22 and 77¢ per square foot. The full right of way cost, accepting out the driveway easement, is $22,136, which will be the maximum allowable amount that the city may charge for the right of way.

Staff recommends council hold the public hearing, take public testimony, that determine, the cost to be charged for the right of way and direct the city attorney to prepare a vacation ordinance for council's adoption. And I'll be happy to take any questions on this one. Questions

for Kerling? Councilmember Eski, we can't. Do you have your hand hand raise or a question at all? Oh, no. I couldn't see you.

I I don't. Surprising, I don't have any question. Thank you. Yeah. Carly did a great job in the past council meetings providing more details. I appreciate it. Thank

you. I I will now open the public hearing. This is the time to state your support or opposition to this item. If you are in agreement with the previous speaker's statement, you can simply state that that is your entire comment.

We will

take the in person comments first and then comments from those attending remotely. Does everybody, so public meeting is officially open. Anybody have any comments they wish to make on behalf of this? Is it board or opposition? Once. Twice. Okay. Anything else? Is anyone online? So nobody here wishes to speak. Well, not anybody remotely, Alicia?

There's nobody in Zoom with their hand raised.

So nobody is waiting in Zoom with their hand raised. So we'll now close the public comment section. Counsel, do you have any questions early on this?

We have

questions, comments, and have to determine if we're in support and a price, I believe. Correct?

I concur with counselor Eschke on the preparation that Kerley has done with us and that he walked us through this evening. We appreciate your, and the way that you explain things. I always understand exactly what you're saying.

That's from miss Florich. Thank you, mayor Progyn.

As you tell the audience, with the previous speaker,

you say so, and I do. K. Thank you.

Council member Elsengren.

Early, I will, provide a third on on what they said. Won't say it. I see that it says maximum charge of $22,001.36. So are we just voting on doing it or not, or are we approving the price? How does this work? Maybe, Sean, it's

a question for you. Thank you.

Was that I'm sorry. Was that question to me?

I missed I missed the question on

that I was talking

to So it says that the property is worth $22,001.36. Is that selling it for that? Is that the idea? If we if we if we, if we move to direct the the authorization for the vacation, is that what we're going to the landowner with?

So I have what I've done is I've taken the, of course, the cost of the that the homeowner paid for the that the property owner paid for the property last year, which also agrees with the assessed value from the county for this year, that would be the amount it took I took the amount of the easement out because it's encumbered. So that in in theory, that would be the maximum amount. And, often in times past past councils have charged half the amount regardless of the age of the right of way. However, you are, able to charge the full amount. So so it's kind of my understanding is it's up to counsel to set the amount up to the maximum.

I have no idea what it's worth. If you give me, what do you think? So when when we vote for this, what are you gonna ask for? Or is that something determined later?

Money. And may I ask a follow-up question? Yes. Without using predicate examples.

I'm sorry. I'm I'm not sure I'm hearing everything. If the questions to me, I'm I apologize.

What what should we charge them?

Is that is that quest if that questions to me, I think there's some there's some history that says you charge half the maximum amount. I don't have the exact I mean, I don't have a appraisal before me. What I have is what they paid. I have the, basically, the market value, what they paid for the property last year, which is the same as the, assessed value in GIS. And so from past practice, it it would be half that amount. So if you're asking a recommendation to me, a a safe amount to be charged would be half of the $22.01 36, which I believe is 11,068.

Thank you. Clearly, I really wanna understand why why were previous decisions to charge half of an assessed value?

Well, I don't I my understanding is probably based on the, statute. So oftentimes, we don't get an appraised we don't get an actual appraised appraisal on this. What I've done is I've taken what, what was paid last year and and figured out the cost per square foot. So I I can't tell you other than what's in their RCW. I know that based on past practices, they've the charge has been half, but you do have the ability to charge the to the full amount.

Thank you. And and the purpose for my questions is truly to understand the rationale. Thank you. Uh-huh.

Question, councilor McPherson. We have a, sample motion before us to direct the attorney to prepare an ordinance authorizing the vacation of this property. Would this motion also need to include the the purchase price?

I Or I

can't remember us ever

seen this before.

I'm sorry, Curly. I can't remember us ever setting the price in these. So I wasn't prepared for this because, ordinarily, the statute kinda speaks for itself, and then staff goes forth, and there's a there's an analysis, and there's a but that number seems, you know, reasonable to answer your question, You know, that's kind of the ballpark for these. It's it's never never that much. And, again, the context here is someone's approached us to say, hey. We'd like to vacate this to us. And they have their checkbook out because they know already that's gonna cost them some amount. Some circumstances, you charge the full appraisal amount, but the full amount. But currently, it's right. Your your your baseline is just half.

Right.

And so likely what's happened in the past is that there's been some sort of middle ground found for numbers that frankly aren't that significant. So I would suggest that for now, we just the motion would be what we've done in the past, which is direct the city attorney draft the ordinance and proceed with the the the assessment as far as what would be equated equate to at least the full value of that, vacation.

So we vacate it first and then Right. Alright. Then I move to direct the city attorney to prepare an ordinance authorizing the vacation of a portion portion of Northwest Oregon.

Move

by council member Perkins, second division by council member for large direct city attorney to authorize an organization of a portion of Northwest Oregon. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? No. The past. Thank you. That concludes the order of business, Brooks. Remaining are public comments.

We have another opportunity to provide public comments to the council. Once they supplement your comments with printed handouts, electronic or digital aids will not be permitted during public comment. Please state your name and city of residence. You'll have three minutes. Please direct your comments to the council as a whole instead of individual members, staff, or audience members. Please come forward or raise your hands in in the Zoom app. Please remember that public comments are not a discussion, and the public comments are to inform the council of views. Does anybody in council chambers wish to speak?

North Sea, Camus, Washington.

There's a couple things.

One being the lights being on at the tennis court, and somebody called me, which was nice. But they had said the tennis court lights could be on till ten. That that's part of the park. That's shut down at dusk. But then I've noticed the last several nights that it'll be dark, and then at about 10:30, 11:00, the lights will come on for a few minutes and then go off.

So the other night, I drove down there and noticed that there was some people down there, and there is a button. There used to be a turn dial to turn the lights on and off for x amount of time. Now it's a push button. They're able to turn it on whenever they want. To me, my opinion, there needs to be a lockbox on that.

It needs to be shut down at dusk. If some if an event is happening and somebody is renting it, then somebody should go up and unlock it. Those are four ungodly lights that should be at Doc Harris, not at the tennis court. So I wanna know. And, yes, I am all about the money.

Who's paying for those lights? Because several times in the last month, they've been on all night and then all day. So that needs to be addressed. And, also, one other part to that, there does need to be the lights on in the park. That's too deep.

What if there are kids in there and something is happening? You know, years ago, there was a little girl or not little girl, a school girl raped at the camel humps. That needs to be safe, but those park lights are connected to that stupid tennis court. They need to be separated. And there does need to be out of the shell out of the box thinking what can happen could happen eventually.

And when it does, it'll be a shame. So but, please, I will go buy a child safety thing and lock that up. I don't like seeing that meter going like this. So that's all I have to say about that. Thank you.

Yep, Dorothy.

I had a comment.

I knew the comments.

She's coming. Paul, hey, I must I saw the workshop shop earlier today. You know, a lot of great work. Long vision. There's a lot of things that can happen. You know? Questioning individual things is we're not probably not there yet. But the thing that keeps coming to my mind is we're looking at the land and the parks and and everything on the North Shore. What is the real center of the whole of the whole thing, of our of our town, and of this project? It's the lake.

Somehow, over time, the county and the city over years and years and years, I know we've we've worked on this lake, but it it's gotta be healthy. I mean, you can put an overlook. You could put up the and you could do all this other stuff, but I I never understood why somebody would wanna view property over something that wasn't relatively healthy, the water, just because it's water. It attracts people. So the real the real future to that is still the lake.

You want people to be next to a healthy lake. It has to be the priority for spending a 100, however many millions of dollars. And the I don't know if county owns it or whatever, but there's a but between the county and the city and even the state, I mean, it's a it's a big resource. But that moving forward, whether you build an equestrian center or a beach or a lodge or whatever Ledbetter House becomes, whatever that road, whatever we do, the center of everything, first and foremost, has to be the health of that lake and what you what we do around the lake. That's just my picture on that as we move forward.

Paul. Thank you.

The other comments? Lucia, do we have anybody online? K. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. So I have one more

item for you, mayor. That is please this evening before you go that direction out the front, go to your mailbox and pick up the packets that you have the.

K. Thank you.

Yeah. Right there. Yeah. It's in your mailbox.

Any more comment? No. That's good, mayor. Council, any additional comment? Councilmember Eschke?

Yes. Thank you. Thanks, mayor Pro Tem. Great job, by the way, tonight. Thank you. I don't have updates, but I wanna make a comment. I wanna thank our community members who are willing to share their ethnicity or culture and ask Citi for recognition, which we've seen from both our Jewish American Heritage Month. I hope others will step in and do the same so we can learn and continue making our community more inclusive and united. Let's make CAM a place where everyone feels welcome, respected, and able to live joyfully. Thank you.

Comments, council members. Not seeing any, we'll close the meeting this evening. Thank you.