Planning Board - Regular Meeting

We'll call this meeting to order. This is a regular meeting of the City of Callaway Board of Commissioners. It is Tuesday, September 8th, 2026. It's 6 p.m. If you all will stand with me. Commissioner Birdsell, please do the invocation. And Commissioner Griggs, lead us in the process.

Thank you, Lord, for allowing us to meet tonight. I pray for those that weren't able to make it in attendance. Lord, for sickness. Pray that you would prevent us from any further distractions throughout this meeting, Lord. It's all judgment on everything we go through tonight. Bless our first responders, our firefighters, all our city employees, and just keep us safe. In Jesus' name, amen.

It didn't work. It didn't work.

OK. City clerk, please do a roll call.

Commissioner Bergsell? Here. Commissioner Griggs? Here. Commissioner Paltier? Here. Commissioner Ayers? Here, ma'am. Mayor Henderson?

Here. OK. We have a couple of presentations tonight. We've got a presentation and a proclamation. Is Deputy Martin here?

I don't know.

Well, does anybody here from the Sheriff's Department? Well, y'all can see the activity for the month. So I guess you can just review them at your leisure. And we'll go on to the proclamation. city of Calvary proclamation, whereas the Constitution of the United States of America, the guardian of our liberties, embodies the principles of limited government in a republic dedicated to rule by law, and whereas September 17, 2026 marks the 239th anniversary of the writing of the Constitution of the United States of America Constitutional Convention, and whereas it is fitting and proper to officially recognize this magnificent document and the anniversary of its creation, as well as the patriotic celebrations which will commemorate the occasion, and whereas public law 915 guarantees the issuing of a proclamation each year by the President of the United States of America designating September 17th through September 25th as Constitution Week, Now, therefore, I, Pam Henderson, by the virtue of the authority vested in me as mayor of the city of Callaway, do hereby proclaim the week of September 17th through 23 as Constitution Week and urge all citizens to reaffirm the ideals of the framers of the Constitution had in 1787 by vigilantly protecting the freedoms guaranteed to us through this guardian of our liberties. And I will be presenting this at a DAR meeting on the 16th of September. Okay, so we will go on now to do we have any additions or deletions to the agenda? Nothing. Okay, that's good. And just a quick review of how public participation works since we have some New people in the audience, I believe. On our agenda items, you can speak on every agenda item if you so choose. All you need to do when I ask for public participation, indicate that you want to speak. When you recognize, come up to the podium, state your name and address for the record if you so choose. and then your three minutes will start on that agenda item. Like I said, you can speak on each one if you want, same process for each. At the end of the meeting, if there's something that you wanted to speak about that is not on the agenda, when we call for public participation, it's the same process. When you recognize, come up, state your name and address, and then your three minutes start to speak about whatever you wanted to talk about that wasn't on the agenda. So we will go ahead now to our minutes of the August 25th, 2026 meeting. And I believe Ashley had one minor change. I don't know if it really is significant enough to mention, but yes.

Well, under the commission and staff comments, under my name, it said that I gave an update about the veterans brick wall. However, that was the meeting before. And I just forgot to remove that when I was doing these ones. So it's been removed. It's been corrected.

OK, and with that said, if anybody else had any comments or challenges to the minutes. And if not, I would entertain a motion.

Motion to approve the minutes. Second.

OK, we've got a motion and a second. So if there's no discussion, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. And we will go on to our first item. Now these next two items are actually under a public hearing, so we will open the public hearing. And item number one is ordinance number 1151, rezoning a property located at 2203 East 4th Street. Bless you. Thank you.

Okay, this is ordinance number 1151, an ordinance rezoning from residential multifamily medium density to R5 residential single family. That's certain parcel of land lying within the city of Callaway, Florida, containing approximately 2.888 acres, located at 5203 East 4th Street. street parcel ID 24417000000 all as more particularly described in the body of the ordinance. Repealing all ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict herewith and providing that this ordinance shall take effect immediately upon passage.

Thank you City Manager. Did you have anything to comment on this?

This is the second and final reading Mr. Frye. Is there anything to be added to it?

Yes, did anybody have questions? I know we discussed this at our last meeting when we did the first reading. Did anybody in the audience want to comment on this item? Not seeing anybody, we need a motion.

Motion to approve ordinance number 1151, rezoning of property located at 5203 East 4th Street, parcel ID number 24417-000-000. Final reading. Second.

Okay, we've got a motion and a second. So if there's no discussion, City Clerk.

Commissioner Burgsville?

Yes.

Commissioner Griggs?

Yes.

Commissioner Pelletier? Yes. Commissioner Ayers?

Yes.

Mayor Henderson? Yes.

Okay, will we go on to item number two, developers agreement for capacity, St. Joe developers agreement for capacity, city manager.

Kevin? Yeah, so after. sent all the commissioners an email a week or so ago. After the first hearing, listening to the comments from the commission, we knew there was some stuff that we wanted to add, so I went through and did that, shared it with Ray and with St. Joe's attorney, and they were good with it, but I just wanted to kind of go over and sort of summarize what we did. Under the... On page two, the recitals under D. Obviously, at St. Joe, it's a big company, so we took out, out of that force majeure clause, like, obviously, if there's hurricanes, storms, that's one thing, but we were able to delete labor disputes, labor shortages, unavailability of labor, so we took those out, like we discussed. And then in... F and G, we added sort of a time limit in there for, you know, once we pick that Kimbrel Avenue area in consultation with the city's engineer and staff, once we pick a spot, they can double deed it to us in 60 days. And then we did something similar with the sports park parcel and put a, you know, 60-day timeline in there and basically added it and We don't want all wetlands or whatever we want it to be. So we added a 60-day inspection period. So the city can go out there, review the site, make sure it's suitable for park purposes. And we added all that language into G so that we can accept or reject a site or find an alternate site. And once we agree on a site with the consultation of our engineer, They were good with it. They'll do that to us in 60 days. But we did build in some language there so we can actually go and look at the suitability of the site. Then I added H, I, and J. So H is I is so that they can't assign this agreement to somebody else unless it's a, you know, obviously they, St. Joe will do a lot of affiliates that are fully owned by them. So like Park Place is SJ Park Place LLC. So that part's fine. So I added some assignment language in there. So we have some control over that. So they just can't turn it over to anybody without approval. notice section for demands and notices and put addresses in there. K, we added, which basically, which this is the case anyway, but I want it in there, that if they're going to be doing infrastructure, it needs to be designed to the city's standards and give us a one-year warranty, which again, that's sort of in the land development regulations anyway, but I wanted to make sure that was in the development agreement. L, We added language that they're going to comply with any of the Clean Water Act, the Hatred Species Act, basically the environmental protections that we had some discussion, I think, amongst ourselves and the people from the audience as well. So they'll have to comply with all the environmental and clean water. And then on M, we added defaults, what happens if the St. Joe defaults. So we added an entire section on defaults and demands and how to cure the defaults. So that's a couple pages there for him. And that was pretty much it. So yeah, basically I took all the notes we had for that first hearing and incorporated those So the one you have in your package includes all these changes. That's whatever. It's already in there.

I just noticed one thing. When we say in paragraph I, there's two of them.

I got M default is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 1, 2, 3.

Should that have continued on to be 7, 8, 9, 10? And then on to be 7, the same thing.

Yeah, and the one I got for M default with the definitions, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and then we have the other remedies is 1, 2, 3, 4, so that's... Right, but you should have at least changed it a paragraph in.

And then the other should be O, and then you need to switch all those down. Either that or you add M, I, several places. with I in the second? Starting with seven.

No, I think it's fine because that's all about default.

It's really not because if you say M-I, then you've got three M-I's because even those separate sections, they still fall under. You see what I'm saying?

I see what you're saying, but I'm not sure that you would change it. M... define default and we've got six definitions of a default and then we have a whole another sentence there which does it still falls under the default provisions of M and I've got I list the remedies as you know one through five for the city and I list the remedies for the developers

make that an N, and then 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and then the next one needs to be an O, then 1, 2, 3, and then you can change the other paragraphs. You do that or you change them all to be in consecutive order 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.

If the leading paragraphs are Just to differentiate which one you're talking about.

So I can do like an M. M and then like Roman numeral one. And then little I through little six. And then city defaults through Roman numeral two. And then developer defaults through Roman numeral three.

to figure out what reference you're talking about. I'm not looking at the three Roman numerals.

Okay.

I mean, you can vote on it still. Just do changes. No, I don't think so. Yeah, it's not a substantive change.

Anything else from anybody?

If you'll also... I'd like to apologize for not getting the sewer capacity out to y'all. It wasn't on my sheet. I don't know why I didn't write it down to get that out to y'all. But I did prepare a copy and give to y'all before the meeting. That's what I was handing out. That first column, if you look on the sheets, Those are the current capacities of our system. So, Bay County has 23% of AWT, Callaway owns 40%, Parker has 13.29, and Springfield has 23. I will say that the Bay County number, that also includes Cedar Grove since they were absorbed by them. So, this is the current allocations. So, the total plant capacity is 5.34 million gallons a day. And those are a lot of capacities that puts Calaway at 2.1 million gallons a day for its maximum capacity. We're currently at 1.61, which puts us at about 75%, but that is as of this moment today. The plant and the county has petitioned the DEP to increase capacity by a million gallons a day. That will give us another 0.4 increase in capacity. So technically our capacity will then be up to 2.5381 million gallons a day and we'll be sitting at about 63% as our capacity on the sewer. Okay, back to St. Joe.

What do we do with that? Do we load on that?

Well, but this was part of it.

Because this agreement is about capacity.

I wonder that you jumped in there.

Well, that's because we asked a question of capacity.

Yes. Yes, sir.

I got you.

Commissioner Pelican wanted to see the exact numbers. Yeah, I just didn't realize it was part of it. Yeah, I had to throw that out there. And there's copies, if anybody would like them. I'm sorry, my printer ran out of paper, or I'd had extras.

Good answer.

Anybody have anything else from the agreement? Anyone? before I open it up for the public. If not, did anybody in the audience want to comment on the development agreement with St. Joe's? Yes, sir. Mr. Bohack?

Paul Bohack, 7010, my claim. I'm really trying to get some clarity. The development agreement includes both reference to the Kimbrel Avenue extension and 25-acre sports park, while it specifically targets a 30-year phased capacity request for its planned development of the recently annexed park. document to the sports parks. But the LDR in sections 15.535, multifamily medium density, 15.540 multifamily high density. Each require, and I quote, 15% of the gross site area shall be set aside and utilized as open space park or play area for use and enjoyment of future residents. There are multiple ways to meet each of those sections, two separate sections according to what kind of development is actually planned. And I'm sure the developer will use most, if not all, of them. But that still leaves me concerned with the Kimbrell Avenue extension. In the absence of any information regarding the planned development along the Kimball extension, the 25-acre sports park may be an attempt to obfuscate or circumvent any of the open space park or play area requirements in that area. But that is pure speculation on my part. may be unjustified, but the way the issue, commingled as it is with a distinctly separate concern, sits poorly with me. This is not the first time I've raised concerns regarding the need for clarity. issues requiring attention. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Bowhat. But you address. I don't think the 25 acres has anything to do with it.

Mr. Bowhat? Yes. The Kimbrel extension and the 25 acre sports park is completely irrelevant to what this is.

It's in this.

It's a gift.

And it's to be signed as part of this

It's their consideration. So you can take the two players' apps and play in $500,000 cash. But instead of $500,000 cash, they're giving us Red Rider way and park parks. It's the consideration.

And this is not a developer's order. This is just a developer's agreement for capacity. It's the consideration. Does that make sense?

Really?

with playground area and a developer.

No. This 25 acres, that's for Callaway to build something like we have here. That will not take the place of their requirement for parks and open spaces. That 25 acres won't be a part of that.

Okay.

You said that in public. No. That's better to have it.

I'll say it, and you've got me recorded saying it.

That's all I want to know. Thank you.

Let me make this comment. What you're concerned about is the 20 years ago, the 19 acres that we were given that then came up as being used for parking. Park Place.

And they still have the balance to use, but this does not add to that.

No. So that's where he's coming from, I believe. We're a member of the history.

Totally different issue. They have banked some land years ago. And they still have 16 or 17 acres. But this 25 acres does not add to that.

No. They're not getting any kind of credit for this.

They can use that.

And one thing, you mentioned that both of those ordinances refer to multifamily. But this is all single family.

Yes, this is all single family.

So this is not multifamily. Well, I mean, that's how it's been expressed to us that it's single family. So I'm not sure those refer to multifamily.

There's still a requirement. Yes, there's still a requirement. And it's right with his own single family.

Yes, his own single family.

Did you need to say anything, Mr. Reardon? They shall have questions for you.

No, he's just got to be quiet. I told him don't lie now. That's right. No. Did anybody else want to speak on the development agreement? No. I don't see anybody. So if we have anything else, or would someone like to make a motion?

Motion to approve St. Joe developer's agreement for capacity with noted corrections. Second.

OK, we've got a motion and a second. Is there any more discussion? If not. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? OK, motion carries. We will close the public hearing. We will go on to item three. Bid award, LS 2026-11, air conditioner replacements. City manager. Ashley? I can.

This item, we had at the last meeting, it was tabled. I did, we did include all of the warranty information. In addition to that, Parker Services also emailed me, which I included in there, that he does have a one-year labor warranty, so anything labor-related within one year would be covered as well.

And it is, there were three proposals received, correct? Not five.

Yeah, he said it was totally fine. He watched the meeting, so he understood. He actually called me before I got a chance to call him. I said that he did nothing wrong. That was every bit of my mistake, so he was totally fine with it.

Anybody have any questions or comments since we have the warranty information? We're good.

I'm good.

Okay, anybody in the audience want to comment on the... Bid award for the air conditioner replacements. I'm not seeing anybody. Would you like a motion, gentlemen?

Motion to approve bid award LS2026-11, air conditioner replacements and park services with $44,668, one to bid. Second. OK, we've got a motion and a second.

If there's no discussion all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries and we'll go on to our last item. Multi-jurisdictional agreement with Bay County Utilities City Manager.

On December 2025 the EP notified Bay County of some minor changes to the multi-jurisdictional agreements and requested to receive four We can see the letter. We included that from Bay County, and the agreement is attached.

What are the changes, though, from last agreement?

This is really the... Paragraph 2 lists the changes.

Yeah, and it's really the industrial user stuff, which DEP makes us do anyway, and we have a lengthy industrial user section of our code.

So it looks like we have to submit a month

user ordinance in existence. So I think what's happening, and DEP makes us do that. But since the AWT is also permitted by DEP, it's more of a belt and suspenders where they're saying, all right, if Bay County is your operator and you've got all these four cities, let's make it part of your interlocal, your MJ, your multi-jurisdictional, but it's really an multi-jurisdictional agreement as well. Which, I guess, there may be a city.

So who's responsible to do that report? We do it. Each city.

I mean, this is going to go to each city that's part of the.

Do we have a section that's doing it like solid waste? Well, Mr. Fry. It really will have to be.

So that remains yearly.

Still yearly, okay. And paragraph five, it says the city of Callaway will indemnify Bay County Board of County Commissioners for all damages, fines, and costs. And this was a new addition. Did you get a chance to see that?

Yeah, I mean, well, this whole agreement, that's basically, again, each of the cities are part of AWT and Callaway is one of them. has an industrial user agreement and we don't follow it and we don't

Are we all good? Is there anybody in the audience wanting to comment on the multi-jurisdictional agreement with Bay County Utilities? OK. And we need a motion, gentlemen.

Motion to approve multi-jurisdictional agreement with Bay County Utilities. Second.

OK. We've got a motion and a second. If there's no discussion, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. And that concludes our agenda. We will move on to commission and staff comments. I just had a couple things. On August 31st several of us attended the Bay County League of Cities quarterly meeting where Jeff Brandeis spoke about Amendment 3 and some of the consequences of Amendment 3's passage. On September 2nd I attended a change of command at Tyndall. Lieutenant General from 1st Air Force is moving on. So I met the new commander of the 1st Air Force, Lieutenant General Edelman, and had a chance to speak to him and let him know that Calaway supports the base and anything we can ever do to help to please Let us know. And then I found out Commissioner Ayers was kind enough to bring this. We were awarded for membership appreciation month. It's our 40th anniversary of being a member of the Bay County Chamber of Commerce. So they gave us this nice certificate that we can hang in city halls sometimes. Ashley says there is a place that we can put that. Yeah, definitely. Just give anything to Ashley. So that's everything that I had. Thank you.

Over the last two weeks I got to meet with a couple of different citizens over water issues. Turned it right over to Mr. Cook. They're very happy. They've called me back and said that their water bills should have no effect. They took care of it, professional. With that follow up from our last meeting on solid waste, workshop.

We've had two meetings. We're putting everything together now and as soon as we get everything done on our end so that we have good information and we'll be calling a workshop.

So by the next commission meeting we can probably set a date?

Yeah, we can set one at the next one, definitely.

Okay, Commissioner Craig.

some of those in our church this week.

And really, why do I have to bring it up? Because the same roads that I travel are the same roads that all our vehicles in the city travel. And the potholes that I'm seeing and been seeing are getting deeper and deeper. And I know where they are so I can go around them and this and that and the other. But if at night be a situation or after training it could be a situation that they're filled up with water so you can't tell that a pothole is there. I guess I understand the street department has scheduling and we talked about in relation to some other things. They're scheduling their asphalt, and they do asphalt maybe for two or three or four days a week. But it used to be, if I recall, that something like a pothole, they had a crew of two that went around and filled up these potholes. And at the very least, could they go in and at least shovel dirt in there And I brought that up to somebody yesterday or today. And they said, well, that'll just wash out. Well, my approach to that is, if you're not going to complete the repair of the pothole, and you've got to put three or four or five shovels a day in there, then that's what is necessary. The bottom line is the potholes need to be at least leveled out. Now, some of them are road deterioration. Some of them are repairs. But they're there. And actually, I would like an explanation as to why we, and why I'm today having to bring this up. And I checked all the potholes that I was looking at on the way in today, and they're still there. So what can you all do to, I know the last time when I brought up the pothole that was at the corner of Cherry and Bertha, I think the next day they had that one filled up. And part of the reason that they had delayed on that, supposedly, is because it's partially a county road or something along that line. But the bottom line, our citizens are hitting these. And if nothing else, if we can shovel dirt or gravel into them, I think that should be done.

I know we have a rather large list of repairs. Bill, I didn't get an opportunity to talk to Chris. They were supposed to have done asphalt last Thursday, but I think because of all the rain, they've put it off until this week. And so you don't want to put cold mix, the bags, that won't hold up in a pothole. So we have to use hot mix.

Well, that's fine, and I understand that. I understand the scheduling has to be done. But in the meantime, back at the ranch, could you at least shovel dirt or some gravel in there to at least level it out. And it'll be washed away at the next day or something. But meantime, we've got citizens and if I want to look at it from the standpoint of Callaway, our trucks and our truck tires are also potentially hitting those.

Well, if you have a list, I'd love to have your list and that way I'll compare it and make sure on our list. OK. It's not too hard to get a list. But if you do have a list, it's wonderful if you just send it. I don't have a list. We'll see which ones I can find.

It's not too hard to get a list, city managers. It's right in the city. They're all out there. I can name a whole bunch of streets, which I'm not going to this evening because I'm under the weather. But I don't know if how we're fixing them really helps. We had that issue, obviously, on J.H. Cruise, which was a big issue. But we fixed fire holes for years until we fixed the fix.

Well, along that line, and I have a little more information concerning the street department and all, and the method that they're using now on repairs is certainly better than it was Five years ago, 10 years ago, whatever, the way they were doing it then.

I don't think they've ever had a good idea of what the tinder we're using. We should be looking into that, all that. And we haven't looked into that.

It was that biochemical something that they talked about. It's a lot stronger than what we use. I went on and it was something. I'll have to see if I can remember what that was. That's been a little back. It sounded like, with your chemistry background, it would have been right up your alley.

I think we ought to just use heavily carbonated polyester resin.

Don't forget, we got it at a position in the streets in my budget this year.

Well, I'm not directing a change in the scheduling or anything along the line with the one exception. If they can go by and put three or four shovelfuls of something in those holes and at least level them out. If they have to do it daily, then let them work within their schedule. But I'm not telling them what to do outside of put something in those holes to keep because I can't guarantee that I'm going to miss them every time. As far as the second thing, I didn't see it on the announcements, but we do have an election coming up and we have a League of that's going to be holding a review of all our candidates, all four of our candidates.

Do you have a date for that?

That's on the 15th. Next Tuesday evening. And that's going to be next Tuesday.

OK, I was not aware of that.

At 6 o'clock. 6 to 8.

Is it going to be here?

It's going to be here.

Do we have a planning board meeting? That's going to be an issue because we've got a planning board meeting here the 15th at 6 o'clock.

Well, that would be the answer on the big one.

Okay.

The League of Women Voters is normally in the big one. Okay, good.

Well, I was not aware of that.

I think the last time we had it here, we had almost 200 people that came to it.

Okay.

It's very good, very informative, and it's not a gotcha type of situation with the League of Women Voters.

No, it's just a good question and answer. Right. Okay.

So that's next Tuesday the 15th from 6 to 8 here.

Anything else, Commissioner Craig? That's it. Okay, Commissioner Pelletier.

All my comments and all. Thank you.

Okay. Commissioner?

Also attended the League of Cities dinner. Very informative. Spoke with the city manager a couple times last couple weeks and answered some citizen concerns. Went to the Bay Estuary Committee meeting and we talked about their different concerns and their budgeting problems and so forth. Attended first Friday. I was able to meet the new 325th Wing Commander for the Air Force. Very nice gentleman. And I had one question. While the city manager and I were out last week, a contractor bored through one of our water pipes out there in Callaway Point.

Was he being charged?

Yes, that was my question. Do we know what the charge is going to be for him yet? Have we figured out the expense? I don't know yet.

Have we gotten any money yet?

I don't know if we've got any money yet, but... Have we billed them yet?

Yes, they've been billed. I sent out a bill after our last meeting. It was like nearly a little over $8,000, I think. And I gave them a net $30,000 on that. I haven't heard anything back, but we just said they probably just got it.

Because that's one of three, right? You've got three going out?

The new one, yes, that'll be the third one. And that one hasn't gone out yet? No, not on the other day.

It takes a minute to get all the hours.

Oh, yeah, yeah. I would be surprised if you haven't already. Thank you.

Commissioner Ayers?

Man.

Is that it?

Yes, ma'am.

Okay. City clerk, do you have anything for us? No, ma'am. City attorney? City manager? I guess that leaves you.

If y'all haven't been by, we did put the first lift on the first section of Cherry Street, inch and a half. You'll see drainage issues. I want to let everybody know their water water is going to pull in the road because It'll take the second lift that will force the water down into the side because I know When I went down there the other day there was water in the road, but that's just because that's the first lift Working through some minor utility conflicts that we should have straightened up that getting the first lift of asphalt there'll be a first lift that will go all the way down it's perfectly drivable everything's great but we will wait and the final lift will be one complete long section of paving so you won't see any any cuts in it new sidewalks and new curves yep the spillway we're reviewing it to go out for bid we did have a state kickoff meeting where we had everyone that was the lift station and so we're working through the state's questions. They're being really weird this year. Never seen them go this deep into projects. Gay and Beulah is closing when?

Beulah is tomorrow. South Gay is Thursday.

Those will come in. As you all know we have finished up Gay and they're diligently working now on Beulah. We hope to have it finished up within a week or so. Getting all those cuts across from there. That'll come before you all for acceptance at the next meeting. And then we'll have a start date. We'll have them. That indigo snake just took me for a loop, but we're going to protect that thing if we see that snake out there. I just promise you. But we did get that one, so it is now under review to go out for bid also. The stormwater study, we're waiting on the executed contract to come back from the state, and then they'll continue on from where they left off before. And then FlexNet, we did hit over 90%. So we're in the next phases now, which is converting everything over into their system, and then they're going to start training with us. We have a meeting next week to start planning out how that's going to work and everything for it. We're still far behind on changing out meters. We've got crews dedicated across the board going both ways to try to get, as these meters, we're having a hard time keeping up. They're going dead. We're at the end of the life cycle, and we changed out all the meters in the city at the same time, so they're all starting to go dead on us now.

And this will happen again in another 10 years?

It'll happen again in about 15 years, yes, at 10 to 15. We should get a longer lifespan out of the new meters. If you all remember when they were originally put in, they were not calibrated right, and they were doing reeds. And once they figured that out, because some of the batteries started going dead early, they did do a lot of proration on those as they went dead early. We got a substantial discount to change those out before the 10-year mark. And they've actually continued to work with us on the meter change-out. So hopefully we'll be flying FlexNet here before long pretty good. It's just been a little difficult with having all these meters go dead at the same time we're trying to convert over.

Did I miss something? I have a couple questions. Yes, sir. One of them is the amphitheater. Where are we at with that? Amphitheater, okay.

If y'all see, it's been delivered. Tim, where's it at? Is it out in the field? Okay, I didn't know if we ended up somewhere else. So we are working right now to go through the logistics. and hit the power up and then we have the designs and everything completely done we know exactly where we're going with it we're going to keep the cost down so we originally went out to discuss quotes for construction only and so what we found was is that it's actually going to come in below So that being said, we're going to do the concrete separately. We're going to do the concrete first. And then we're going to come back and do the erection of it separately.

Is it really the concrete should be done at this point since it's got a cure for a while?

Yes, that's what we're working on right now.

So we haven't bid that out yet?

Not yet.

So why are we waiting on that? I mean, that could have been done six months ago.

Well, it's just not as simple as...

I understand that, but you have to get the signs. So what's missing?

So they tell us how the footers should be. They don't tell us anything else. So we've now got an estimate. so that we don't have to deal with having rails around it and just getting it laid out right. But we're working on that this week, me and Tim.

Since you know all those things, I guess I keep on asking why isn't it an alphabet? You already know what the specs are. We already have the little quotes.

We're waiting on a quote.

A quote for what?

We need to see about where the prices are going to come in if we have to go out for a formal bid. Because we can run the price of the concrete down if we purchase the concrete direct. And that's what we're trying to do everything as much direct purchase as we can. That'll save us on the sales tax. And plus, we can get better pricing than contractors can because we're the city. And so, but we do have to have somebody come out and lay the forms and do that. Now, we're waiting to hear back a price on that. And we think it's going to be below the threshold. And we'll get three quotes on that. We'll take the lowest one to come out and do the forming and the pouring. We'll purchase the concrete direct. And then once it's formed up, we'll go from there.

Okay. And the last thing is Veterans Day. We got Plan B. And what are we doing? Can you guys... Bring us up to speed what we're doing next meeting on Bedman State.

Tim, have you got anything? I don't have nothing.

We're not that far away. We're just a few months away. That's not too far away.

We have a Bayway van lined up. We're going to do it out here? Yes.

And I have a veteran lined up. You know, we honor a veteran regardless. And I also have, if it's all right with y'all, I have somebody from Tyndall that will come and do the national anthem for us.

That'd be great.

For something a little bit different. I mean, he can do it in conjunction with Bay Winds. Okay.

We also have a request.

Well, that reminds me. I don't know if anybody watched that football game last night, which we won't talk about the football game. But they had a flyover at the start of the game. And it was actually from the squadron out here from the 95th Fighter Squadron from Tyndall. Some of the pilots were actually alumni, Florida State alumni. And they had a flyover at the start of the game. I thought that was neat that they actually mentioned Tyndall Air Force Base. And the pilots.

Very nice. I just wanted to say one thing. When they bored through our water pipe out there, your crews were on site within an hour. They took care of business and everybody appreciated it. They're so professional. They just got out there and got it cleaned up so fast it was Just so you know on that particular one we did have two supervisors from the communication company they showed up immediately they actually beat

And they had already went up. They had done checked. Everything was well within the bounds. Everything was marked. In fact, it was marked using our new GPR that we got. And it was right up perfect. And they just went right through it. And they were terminated on site. We watched them pack up and leave. The company, they don't have zero tolerance for stupid mistakes like that. Now, does that mean, I don't know what that means. I just know they were terminated on site. I'm sure they probably left and went to put in, install communication company in another city. But it's all right. As long as they got out of here, that's all right. It's really funny because a lot of people don't realize that they are using a contractor to do this boarding. And you've got... Several groups that will go through a neighborhood, and we will get nothing but praise over how well everything's left and how great it is. And then you'll have one that just comes through, and they are just horrid. And we have to stay on top of them left and right. But at least, you know, they've been very responsive to us. Wouldn't you agree, Bill? More so than we've seen in the past. Yes.

And they took responsibility immediately.

Good. Did he miss anything that anybody wondered about? OK. We'll go ahead and read the announcements. Thank you, Commissioner Grace, for telling us about the legal women voters on September 15 here at 6 o'clock. We also had a planning board meeting that night here at 6 o'clock. The final budget hearing will be September 17 at 5.01. This one actually is at 5.01. September 22nd was our next commission meeting. And September 20, if that's Sunday, is our next Historical Society meeting. And at that meeting, the historian from Tyndall Air Force Base is going to talk about Tyndall School. The title of his speech is separate but integrative. And according to him, Tyndall Air Force Base School was the first school in Bay County to be integrated. So he's going to talk about that. It should be very interesting. He's a good speaker. So that's all of the announcements, unless anybody is aware of anything else. So we will go on to public participation. Is it Ms. Pelletier?

It's all good. When you discuss the workshops, I'm putting in a request. for you to consider to have those at 6 p.m. so citizens can attend those. It's a little difficult for citizens to come during the day, but I know you have to coordinate with everybody, so just asking for you to consider that. Also, if you could give us an update on the Beacon Point lawsuit. I know that's in litigation. You might not can, but I was just wondering if you could. Patterson Park, I noticed that the The parking lot is dug out a little bit. And I was wondering if you were planning on putting gravel. You talked about the gravel, and I thought that's a good place to put gravel. So I didn't know if you were paving that or putting gravel in that or if it's just dug out. And then, Mayor, I was wondering about the Historical Society. I know you... don't allow visitors. Is there a way to just pay for the one?

No, you can come and visit.

Because you don't have to be a member to come to a meeting. So I was like, well, let me see if you'll just let us pay for one.

Anybody is welcome to come. Some people might come to a meeting and decide, oh, I want to join. It's only $20 for the year. Some people might want to join, but no, you do not have to be a member to come to a meeting. That's why I announced it. Interesting. No, that's why I announced it in case somebody wants to come. Okay, thank you.

The only thing restricted is the once a year.

Yes, the Christmas party. You have to be a member to come to the Christmas party, but that's all.

Yeah, Patterson Park. It's part of the Beulah paving. We are getting ready to put Dolomite down. Yeah, but we are going, that's going to be part of the paving project. It was going to be a separate project when we did all that other paving, but it just makes more sense to let them, while they're doing it, just go ahead and pave that. So we did the original excavation and we were seeing where we were at with how the bid was going to come out. But we'll probably go ahead and go through and get that in there.

What else did I miss? Bid and point. Mediation.

Mediation. Yeah. We have a mediation meeting. That was already scheduled. It's already scheduled. The mediation meeting is next Tuesday. Right.

They haven't said yet.

They're doing a pre-suit mediation. Nothing can get settled about coming back here.

It's not a public thing, so we can't go.

We're not sure if it's going to be a meeting or if it's going to be in person. They haven't decided yet.

Did that cover your question? Yes, thank you. Anyone else? Yes, sir.

I'm from 6326 Bridger Street. I just want to talk about my billing for the water. For two months, I've been billing high and saying that I've been using over 571 gallons usage a day. And I've got pictures if you want to see that I'm not using 571 gallons a day. And I'm just wondering, oh, can y'all revisit my account and my address to see my... Yeah, we talked about that today, and I think Eddie's got a full... 6326 Pridgin?

Yes, yes, sir. It's the one that you had the printout today. What's your name? Jackson Martin.

And I got a bill from July to August...

I just want to know, Jackson, after the meeting, if you'll come up and give me your phone number, I'll call you tomorrow.

Yes, sir. That works? Yes, sir. I'm going to let you know, Jackson, we have talked about it, and Eddie's been researching it, and Lisa, the young lady that's in charge of the billing department. So we are looking at it. Thank you all. Yes, sir. Thank you.

Anybody else? Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

Martin Falls, there's 630 Wallis Road. If you drive down Wallis Road, I know it's not a pothole, but we have reverse speed bumps. Which street? Wallis. Wallis. Wallis. It's like right there by the gate. It's like, I mean, you can just see.

A dip.

A dip. All you gotta do is, if you're a weirdo like me, and you look around, and if it's night or day, if you aren't looking for water, you look for oil on the ground. So when somebody has an oil leak and they hit that little dip, it knocks that little drip off of it. And that thing is ridiculous to hit. The weather's starting to get good. I rode my little moped out there today, and I hit that a few times. I rode on that street, and I still hit that thing. I'm like, oh, man, my back is killing me. And other potholes. And another thing that you notice when you go around Wallace is when you go down to East Park, you make a right that... We need to get someone to clean that area. Have you seen how bad that is?

I'm very much aware of that.

I mean, there's the sign that says no dumping, and it's like, I'm going to go down there tonight with the sharpie and put, please dump here, because they're already doing it. I'm serious. I'm going to leave a mark.

They're actually, I don't know who's doing it, but they're doing a great job, because they make sure their trash has no identifiers in it. People will go out of their way to go through their own trash to tear their addresses off.

They're going to dump it.

It's amazing. And we've tried multiple types of cameras out there. We've tried game cameras. I don't know what it is, but we have not been able to catch them. And I've been telling the people up and down through there, just walk out with your phone and take a picture. That's all I need. Send it to me. I'll say I took the picture. I will never say your name or where I got it from. But we're just trying to find a way to stop that. We know it's got to be the apartments. I mean, it's just every time you have a move out, and it's right there next to the dumpster. It's right there next to the dumpster.

It's been going on for years. Oh, yeah. We've had a camera out there for a while, but I'll let you expand on that.

not saying anything. Obviously, Florida law says that if I file a code enforcement claim, you know, like I got some people setting up shop across my street, and they're the same people when you go down boat race, you see that, whatever you want to call that situation on boat race in the corner of that other street. I think those people are like co-mingling with my people. So it's just getting bad.

Hey, wait. You got an address? My address? No, no, no. They're at this address.

All right.

You tell me afterwards.

Give a verbal complaint to me.

They're wiry. That's all I'm going to say.

OK.

Anybody else?

You're going to see some movement on the boat race thing, by the way. Yeah. It's a high line. Yeah.

Is there anybody else that wanted to speak? I see our deputy is here. Did you want to go over the report?

I have nothing.

Don't worry about it.

That's fine. Karen just called me. Apparently she got confused of the holiday day off yesterday.

Thumb up.

No, she wasn't nice enough to text me back.

I'm here now. Okay, well, we appreciate that you showed up for us. I was like, Erin, where you at? Am I missing anybody else that wanted to speak?

I can see why she got confused, because Bay County, if there's a holiday on that Monday, they don't meet on that Tuesday. They meet on the Wednesday.

Well, we're working today. If there was nothing else... We will adopt motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn. Okay, we'll adjourn.