Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Good evening and welcome to the Monday, May 11th, 2026 regular meeting of the Burbank Planning Commission. Before we begin our meeting, there will be one general period of public comment tonight during oral communications. Persons speaking during the general public comment period may provide the planning commission oral communication on any matter concerning city business. Members of the public may comment in person or by telephone during the general public hearing public comment periods. If you would like to participate in public in the public comment period by making an in-person comment, please present a completed speaker card to planning staff. If you would like to participate in the public comment period by telephone, please call 818-238-3335. We will announce when the phone lines are open. Please join me in a moment of reflection. This moment is intended to begin our meeting with a positive and collective support for our beloved community. The planning commission welcomes everyone joining us this evening. We encourage you to take a moment to reflect on our community and the work we will be doing tonight. While each of us has our own unique reasons for being here, we are united in our passion for our wonderful city. As we pause, let us consider our own individual contributions, what they mean to those around, and what they mean to those around us. Let us find solace in knowing that by working together with shared spirit of community and partnership, we will always act responsibly for the betterment of Burbank. Will everyone please join us in the pledge of allegiance? I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you. Madame clerk, please conduct the role. Chair Wick, present. Vice Chair Safarian is absent. Commissioner Van Gorder, present. Commissioner Mendes, present. and Commissioner Bennett, I'm here. Great. Thank you very much. Do we have any announcements from city staff this evening? Uh, we do not.

Thank you very much. Now is the time for oral communications from the public. Any person speaking during this period may address the commission on any matter concerning city business. Each person may address the planning commission for a maximum time of 3 minutes. For members of the public who wish to comment in person, please present a completed speaker card to planning staff. For members of the public that wish to comment by telephone, please call 818-238-3335 to address the planning commission. Callers will be placed in a queue until all inerson comments have been received. The phone lines are now open. Please bear with us as it may take a couple of minutes for the first callers to get through the line. For callers, please remember to lower the volume on your TV or computer and take your phone off speaker when you deliver public comment. Madam clerk, do we have any speakers here tonight or callers on the line?

No, we do not. Okay, we'll give it a minute. And madam chair, if we can just to clarify for the public, um this is for just general public comments. So if you're here to speak on a particular item that's agendaized and that's a separate, so I don't want anybody to feel that you're not going to get a chance to speak. There's an opportunity for that.

Correct. Thank you. No one. All right. There being no further public comment, I now declare the public comment period closed. There are three public hearing items and one report to planning commission on tonight's agenda. Now is the time and place for the public hearing of project number 1 19-00007903, a request for a conditional use permit to amend the previously approved CUP to allow operational modifications and expansion of use for the community youth center Burbank Youth Center currently operating at 75 East Santa Anita Avenue. The proposed operational modifications and expansion include the allowance of adult daycare services, expanded hours of operation, removal of the equipment to provide additional on-site parking spaces, and allowance of up to 24 special events per year. The project site is zoned Burbank Center Commercial Manufacturing, BCCM, with a general plan land use designation of South San Frernando Commercial. Before we begin, do any planning commissioner members have any legal, financial, or any other conflict of interest regarding this hearing?

No. No. No. All right. I'm hearing four nos. Have any planning commission members had any communications, including written or oral, with any person about this project? No. No. No. Okay. I'm hearing four nos. Mr. Ramirez, have the notices as required by law been given? Yes, they have. Are there any written communications on this matter? Yes, there was one included in the packet and I believe uh presented in front of the dis for each one of you is uh additional comments received. Great. Thank you very much. Will the representative of the community development department please introduce yourself and summarize the matter before us tonight.

Good evening Chairwoman Wick, members of the commission. My name is Joseph Ibuchi, associate planner. The project before you this evening is a request for an amendment to a previously approved cup to allow operational modifications and expansion of use for the community youth center currently operating at 75 East San Anita Avenue. Can you The project site is approximately 15,026 ft and is developed with a 14,382 ft twostory commercial building that is used as a community youth center. Uh, next slide please. The project site is located in the Burbank commercial manufacturing zone or the BCCM and is surrounded by commercial and industrial uses. The site has a general plan land use designation of South San Frernando Commercial which is intended to support transit accessible walkable development and proximity to downtown Burbank. The general plan acknowledges that increased development intensity within this designation may impact the existing street system and therefore when this application was under review, a transportation study was prepared to evaluate potential impacts associated with the proposed intensification of uses at the site. And I will discuss the results of this transportation study later in this presentation. Next slide, please. The existing community youth center operates pursuant to cup number 11-0000518 which approved a combination of uses including a basketball court, gymnasium, and office space. Due to the combination of these uses of these uses, the project was reviewed and approved as a city planner classification cup. Furthermore, the project was approved with a requirement to record an off- streetet shared parking covenant to ensure

adequate parking supply for the approved uses. The applicant requests approval of a conditional use permit that would amend the previously approved CUP to allow operational modifications and expansions of use for the community youth center currently operating at this address. The proposed operational modifications and expansion include the allowance of adult daycare services. The proposed adult daycare services would operate on weekdays between 7:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m. and serve up to 100 attendees. Participants would be transported to and from the site via a shuttle program utilizing 10 passenger vans, thereby minimizing individual vehicle trips and reducing on-site parking demand. The service would be staffed by approximately 10 employees and would include periodic visits from nurses and physical therapists as well as deliveries of specialized medical supplies. Passenger loading and unloading would occur along East Sanita Avenue with attendees ac accessing the building via the existing driveway and courtyard entrance. The adult daycare services would operate independently of the youth cent's evening program and is intended to concentrate activity during daytime hours. I think you can go back one second. There we go. The project is surrounded by urban uses in the BCCM such as the dance school located directly across Sanad Avenue, the automobile parts retailer abudding the property to the west, and the surface parking lot located just north of the site. Next slide, please. The project also requests expanded hours of operation. The project currently operates from 5:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. Monday through Friday and from 9:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. on the weekends. The project proposes to expand those hours of operation to 7:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. daily to accommodate both the community youth center, which will operate in the

afternoon and evenings, and the proposed adult daycare services, which will operate in the mornings and early afternoon. The applicant requests the removal of the off-site parking requirement which was a condition of approval related to the existing cup requiring the center to provide at least 41 off-site parking spaces via the shared parking agreement. Finally, the existing cup requires that the community youth center provide the city 30 days written notice prior to the holding of a special event and further prohibits live entertainment on the premises. The applicant is requesting that the community youth center be allowed to hold a total of 24 special events per year with no more than three community events allowed in any given month. The requirement for 30-day notification to the city be removed and that live entertainment be allowed during the special events. These requested operational modifications do not introduce a new primary land use, but rather expand upon an established community serving use that is operated at the site under a previously approved CUP. As such, the project does not present a substantial change to the existing land use pattern in the surrounding area. Uh, next slide, please. The project site currently provides eight on-site parking spaces located within a courtyard accessed from East San Anita Avenue. I've highlighted that in blue on this slide. Due to the limited on-site parking supply, existing operations rely on curbside parking and passenger dropoff activity along East Sanita Avenue with approximately 40 student drop offs occurring daily under current conditions. The proposed adult daycare component, as I said before, would operate on weekdays between 7:00 a.m. and 1 p.m. and would serve up to 100 attendees, all of which would be transported via 10 passenger vans to the center. This program, the shuttle program, substantially reduces individual vehicle trips and parking

demand, limiting new daily trips primarily to staff, service providers, and deliveries. Staff associated with the adult daycare facility are expected to park on either on-site or available on street parking in close proximity to the project site. Staff conducted a transportation study which is appendix D in your packet which identifies that the current loading configuration is limited in capacity and not optimally located relative to the site or to the site entrance. To address this, this study recommends reconfiguring the curb to provide two dedicated passenger loading spaces adjacent to the driveway and relocating the existing white curb zone. This improvement would enhance safety, improve circulation, and better accommodate increased loading activity associated with both the adult daycare facility as well as youth center operations. Next slide, please. Burbank Municipal Code section 10-1-503A, which allows the city planner to classify a use as conditionally permitted when it is substantially similar in its character and intensity to two or more uses permitted within the zone which it is proposed to be allowed. The previous conditional use permit number 11-000055018 authorized the community youth center use based on a determination that the proposed gymnasium and office components were substantially similar to uses permitted by right within the BCCM zone. Adult daycare is not explicitly listed in BMC section 10-1-502. However, staff has determined that it's substantially similar to a child daycare facility, which is permitted, and an auditorium labor union meeting hall lodge hall use, which is also permitted if residentially adjacent. For this assessment, city staff considered one, whether the project is consistent with the Burbank 2035 general plan, two, whether the project complies with the

BMC zoning regulations, and three, whether the proposed use would be compatible with other uses in the surrounding area. and four, whether the project complies with all findings required for CO CUP approval. The proposed project is consistent with all requirements necessary for approval. The combination of limited daily trip generation, reliance on shuttlebased transportation, and recommended improvements to passenger loading operations ensures that the project can be accommodated within the existing street network while maintaining safe and efficient access to the site. Finally, the project site is located within an area subject to government code section 65863.2, also uh referred to as AB2097, which means that the site is located within a half mile radius of a major transit stop. In this case being the Burbank Metroink train station, and that precludes the city from imposing minimum parking requirements. Next slide, please. Staff has included several conditions of approval to ensure safe and orderly site operations, including the including that event related vehicles do not queue, idle, double park, or conduct passenger drop off activities along South IKEA Way. that no more than 24 events per year be uh that there be no more than 24 events per year with a maximum of three events per month. and that the hours of operation are 7:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. daily with the adult daycare uh occurring from 7:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. while the youth center occurs from 1:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. This project is exempt from the California Environmental Quality Act pursuant to section 15301 class one of the state SQA guidelines pertaining to operation, repair, maintenance, permitting, leasing, licensing or minor alteration of existing public or private structures, facilities, mechanical equipment or topographical features

involving negligible or no expansion of existing or former uses. The class one categorical exemption is applicable because the project involves only minor interior alterations within the community youth center with minor expansion of the existing community serving uses to not only serve youth in the evening but now seniors during the daytime hours. The nature of the current operations as a community youth center will remain the same with programs now being offered to seniors in addition to the existing youth operations with no overlap between senior and youth services. Next slide, please. Public outreach for this project was done in accordance with BMC Burmick Municipal Code section 10-1-1942, which includes a newspaper notice, mailed notices to tenants and property owners within a 1,000 ft radius, installation of an on-site sign, all at least 10 business days prior to the hearing. Next slide, please. staff has received one written comment from an adjacent property owner expressing concern regarding potential parking impacts associated with proposed events at the facility. I believe the commission also received uh a petition with signatures um regarding the parking associated with this project. Uh staff has incorporated conditions of approval to address these concerns. Specifically, conditions 16 through 18 uh address the uh uh parking parking associated with special events. And then conditions 30 and 31 are included to ensure that parking is managed in a safe, efficient, and orderly manner. Next slide, please. Therefore, staff recommends that the planning commission approve the CU CUP request by adopting a resolution of the planning commission of the city of Burbank approving a conditional use permit project number 19-00007903 amending a previously approved conditional use permit and associated environmental determination.

Next slide, please. Uh, this concludes staff's presentation and I'm available for any questions. Thank you. Thank you very much. I will now invite the applicant or their representative to address the planning commission. You will have a maximum time of 15 minutes to make your presentation.

Good evening uh chair and planning commission members and city staff. Uh my name is Arditionian. I am the chair of the Burbank Youth Center and chair of Armenian Youth uh Armenian Cultural Foundation which operates from the location. I don't have a presentation but I'm here and available to answer any questions you may have. Great. Thank you so much. I'm sure there will be questions but there'll be in a moment.

All right. We will now open the meeting to address We will now open the meeting to hear from any persons who wish to speak on this matter. Each person may address the planning commission for a maximum time of 3 minutes. For members of the public who wish to comment in person, please present a completed speaker card to planning staff. If you wish to speak by telephone, please call 818-238-3335 to address the planning commission. Callers will be placed in a queue until all inerson comments have been received. The phone lines are now open. Please bear with us as it may take a couple of minutes for the first callers to get through the line. For callers, please remember to lower the volume on your TV or computer and take your phone off speaker when you deliver public comment. Madame clerk, um I see we have speaker cards. Do we have any callers on the line as well?

We do not have callers. Okay, great. Our first card is um David Cronomy.

Good evening, Mr. chairperson and the u other honorable members of the planning commission. My name is David Carronomy. I'm a licensed clinical psychologist and my principal place of business registered with the city is at 52 East Santa Anita Avenue which is across the street and slightly to the west of the property that's uh subject to this hearing. Um parking on our street is a nightmare. There are no more than a dozen places uh for curbside parking. Hardly a day goes by when I don't have to rouse somebody who's parked in front of the driveway into our premises. We have half a dozen offsite or off- streetet parking spots in our uh in the courtyard of our building. Um now I use my Burbank office uh irregularly. I'm also on the clinical faculty at UCLA, but when I do use it, it's quite an imposition for myself and my patients to have the driveway blocked. Uh, I took some pictures um just of the last several weeks of parking. The the the one that happened this evening I took a picture of. And I'm not I'm not going to try and circulate those to the circulate those to the commission, but it looks um it looks something like this where here's a here's a car that just is blocking our gate. And our our gate is posted with no parking. Please do not block driveway signs. So there's no no there's no issue about whether or not people should think that they have a an ability to park there. Now, I'm not in a position, especially with waiting patients, to go around and conduct a scavenger hunt across the street for the person who's blocking our driveway. Um, and even if

there's somebody in the car, when you politely ask them to move, they uh view it as an imposition and become offended like they have some kind of an entitlement to be there, which is very discouraging. Um, in our letter to um the planning commission, we listed a number uh several possible mitigators. Uh, the letter we wrote on April 28th to Mr. On Yabuchi, including cameras, additional signage, refreshing of the curb paint, and similar measures. Now, we're particularly concerned with their proposal to hold live entertainment events twice a month, maybe thrice, three times a month. Um, I was in the live music business for 30 years before becoming a clinical psychologist and I'm familiar with the litter, drug and alcohol use and hooliganism that these type of events attract. If they retain this item in their proposal, then they should and must be required to retain a staff of armed guards to prevent a neighborhood takeover.

That's time. Okay. Thank you very much.

Thank you. The next comment is Elda Seenor. Good evening, commissioner and honorable staff. My name is Ila Via Seenor. I live at 148 East Santa Anita Avenue, one block from the proposed project. There is a a apartment complex there with 15 residents that live in in that little complex. It's one block away. Um I and I oppose the proposed community youth center project. Um I want to convey that this street just as it is is extremely congested with vehicles with continuous double parking on that street and IKEA way. If you ever gone to IKEA, you've may have seen how congested that corner and not only because it's a popular place, but because there is act a lot of activity on that street. Um, I spoke with my neighbors and business owners in within a block of the area and I'd like to submit 67 signatures to oppose the project. Um, and I just one before I I read my um petition, I wanted to convey also that I did not receive a mailing of the proposed project. Um, I just saw the bulletin out in front of the youth center and I asked the members in our um uh apartment complex, they said the same. They did not receive any mailing of the proposed project. And now I'd like to read my petition. And I I gave a copy to every single um Yes, thank you. And there's three attached copies. Um we the undersigned residents, business owners, and concerned community members hereby declare that the proposed

community youth center project must comply with all city ordinance regarding parking requirements. We assert that the project must have and provide the legally required number of parking spaces as stipulated by the city ordinance. No modifications, expansions, or changes in the use of the community youth center shall be approved or permitted unless the project can demonstrate that it meets the legal parking requirements. The integrity of the community safety, accessibility, and quality of life must be preserved by ensuring adequate parking is available before any approval of the project or its expansion. We urge the city authorities and planning commission to enforce the parking requirements strictly and to reject any proposals that do not meet these standards. Thank you.

Thank you.

Our next speaker is George Johnson. Hello commission and thank you for the opportunity. Uh we are at 35 East Sanita which is two doors down from the community center and we do appreciate that the community center is doing a service for our community. However, the uh expansion of their operation without the expansion of their parking is a logic problem. First of all, 10 vans showing up with only eight parking spaces. Where are those vans going to go for the rest of the day? I understand that they could be a rental and off-site, but that is a lot of traffic for us. Also expanding what's going on with 24 events at night. Great idea. Love to do it. Sounds like fun. But we have a parking problem now. Uh my associate Mallerie, who's speaking next, I suspect, has pictures of the kind of parking congestion that uh congestion that we experience. Not only do we have our driveways blocked, our parking lot gets filled up with people who are actually going to the center and they don't leave until they're done at the center. Uh we have a uh business that runs both day and night. We are in the entertainment business and we don't really have set hours other than we open at 10:00 and we close when the clients are done, which could be 2:00 in the morning. If we can't get in and out of our parking lot, that's that affects our business directly. I don't have a problem with expanding their capabilities. I absolutely have a problem with them reducing the amount of parking spaces that they have available to them while increasing their occupancy and use. It's does it's a logic problem. It makes no sense. They have not to this date that we have in the neighborhood uh experienced these supposed parking spots that they have offsite. If they have them, they're certainly not using them because they park all over the neighborhood wherever they feel like. Our parking lot gets used. People drive through our parking lot which is divided to two gates. They drive over the burm and around and through the dirt. We don't appreciate it. I love the community center. I think it's great.

It's a good idea. I want the kids to have someplace to go. The basketball nights are are certainly exciting for them, but for us, it's a genuine problem because our clients cannot get in and out of our business. Thank you very much. Thank you. Our next speaker is Mallerie. I didn't want to butcher your last name. I'm sorry.

It's okay. I know it's I everybody does it. Hello chairwoman, commissioners. Um, thank you for letting me speak. I'm just kind of bounce off of what George said. Um, I am the manager at the building. Um, so I kind of try to keep an eye on everything that's going on. Um, I did bring some pictures as well. I also have videos of what kind of everybody has said in terms of driveways being blocked. Um, we have had people drive, like he said, through our our parking lot over the park. We've had um damage to our property. Um, we've very kindly asked people to move before and they get threatening. I had one guy try to fight one of my employees when he asked him to move. Um, I've had people cuss at me, like I said, threaten. I've had people scream at me um, just for politely asking him not to block our driveway or not to park in our lot. We do have signs posted saying not to block the driveway, that it's a private lot. Um, I have had to call the police before multiple times. They told me to just keep doing it when it happens. Um I have spoken to one of the managers at the youth center and he assured me that this was a while ago that um they would try to let their their patrons know and everything but nothing changed. It's been the same. There's nobody I've been there before to try to talk to somebody. Um nobody responds. The gate is always closed. Um they say they have on-site parking, but it's always closed. There's never anybody parking there. Maybe just one or two cars for people that work there. Um so we are very concerned. Even Friday, it took me 15 minutes to get out of our parking lot to leave work. Um, because the street is just congested. There are people that idle in the middle and they stay there. There are people that that park on both sides of the traffic. Um, so it's been a real hindrance to us. And like George said, we are an entertainment studio. We do recording, we do filming, and if they're having, you know, incredibly loud music performances at night or anything, that is going to directly affect our business as well. Um, so like he said, we don't have a problem with them expanding. I mean, I think it's great that there's a

place for kids to go, all that to help the elderly. Um, but this does need to be addressed. It is severely affecting our business. I also have a couple signatures from our neighboring businesses, too. They also have issues. Um, I know this is hearsay, but one of our neighbors said that they had stuff stolen from their trucks cuz they were a pool business, and so they have things they leave in their trucks, and they've had on video patrons come and stealing stuff from them. Um, so I do have this. I don't know if I can give it to you guys. I've never done this before. Um, but that's kind of my my main concern. So, thank you very much. I appreciate your time.

Thank you very much. All right, Madame Clerk, do we have any further speaker cards or callers on the line? I have I have no more speakers or callers. Okay, great. Um, there being no further public comment on this item, I now declare the public comment period closed. Would the representative of the community development department like to make any further comments?

Uh yes. Uh Joseph Ibuchi, associate planner. Um we have with this application reviewed extensively the traffic impacts um on the project. Uh we uh hired a consultant to review and conduct a transportation study uh to take a look at the impacts of these new uses on the site. And so we are very uh sensitive and aware as to uh what could what is take place and what could take place as a result of these of these um of these new uses. Um and to that end we added some conditions of approval to ensure that there was uh that we could ensure an orderly safe uh parking situation traffic circulation. Um, I'd like to, you know, call your attention to condition number 14, um, where we actually discuss, um, um, creation of a

Can you give them the page number?

Oh, sorry. Page seven. Yes. Condition number 14, page seven. Um, where we discuss the creation of a community liaison. Um now in this condition we essentially are are discussing this um community liaison with regard to special events but we are open to in light of these comments we are opening we are open to uh expanding the community leaison to uh more of a permanent role um for all of the other events that occur at this at this um at the facility. So, not just the special events, the 24 special events a year, but you know, the basketball, the um adult daycare, things like that. Um, so that is um one condition that we think um could help ease uh some of the uh relationships in the community. Um with regard to uh I think there was another comment with regard to the types of events that were taking place there. And I just like to uh call your attention to condition number 15 where um we essentially um gave examples of the type of events that we um have spoken with the applicant about and that we believe are going to be occurring here. So generally we believe events like you know I know in the past that they've they've talked about using this place as an election polling place. Um so we've included that in the condition and then I also believe they have annual g annual gaylas there. Um and so we've added these conditions to ensure that um that there is some sort of uh there are some guard rails here um to help the community um and help the help the uh the the the the community facility um continue their operations in peace. Um condition number 18 is another condition that I think um adds um a bit it's a bit more explicit as to what we are allowing. So we I can just go through the condition there. Um all event related passenger drop off and pickup activity must occur along South

Bonniewood Place or other lawful parking areas. The operator must direct event attendees to utilize available on street parking along South Bonnywood and must implement reasonable measures including signage or staff direction during events to discourage parking, queuing or staging vehicles along South uh IKEA Way. Um, finally, I would say that uh we do have condition number 17 um where if the city receives three or more substantiated complaints related to event parking that impacts or or impacts within any rolling 30-day period, then the community development director may require the permittee and any other operator to provide documentation demonstrating that off-site parking arrangement arrangements are available to accommodate event related parking demand. Um, so we believe, staff believes that the the um conditions that have been imposed on this application um would help uh address the traffic and parking issues that have been brought up here today.

Sir, I'm Please stop. Thank you. Yeah, just just for the sake of the audience chair, just to clarify, I know why you're we're telling them that is uh uh if we could just allow us to get through the explanation ultimately the commission can ask more questions. They can also bring up the applicant to further clarify. But yeah, if just you know uh everybody's given an opportunity to speak and not interrupt, uh we'd appreciate it that you follow those requirements also while staff's trying to get information to the commission so that they're well informed and making a decision. Um, I just wanted to also just further clarify there's there's clearly kind of a very basic identification of potential events, but I think it's best to just go to the source documents. So, I wanted to just bring your attention to exhibit D, which is the application that uh the uh Armenian Cultural Foundation submitted and on the on D2, the back section of it, it lists the types of events that they're considering. So that way you can take a look at it and just for the sake of the public uh it notes um uh occasional live entertainment, cultural performances, poetry, dancing, drama, polling stations, B USD town halls, uh Department of Homeland Security training, citizen classes, US citizen training, Armenian Relief Society food donation, Armenian genocide commemoration events, and then the annual Armenian Christmas gathering uh and uh community health and wellness events. And I think that's the range of the community serving type of events that they're wanting to have at that location. So I just wanted to kind of bring that to your attention. I think uh and I don't know Joe if you can clarify. I think there was a question regarding the vanpool services or similar services and it's um how many do they envision vans?

Yes, I think there was uh there was a misunderstanding that it was going to be 10 passenger vans. These are 10 seat passenger vans. So there's not going to be 10 passenger vans coming to for pickup and drop off. Yeah. And I just wanted to kind of add that information and then if the commission so desires, we can ask the actual uh business operator to further clarify any questions you guys may have.

Understood. Thank you. Does the applicant or their represent wish to make any further comments? Um you'll have a maximum time of 10 minutes. Hello again and thank you for the opportunity. I just want to clarify a couple of things uh that has been mentioned. Uh unfortunately I personally have not met any of the our neighbors. I've been running the managing the uh center for last I don't know seven eight years since 2018 or 19. Uh 24 hours uh is all volunteer work. Nobody's paid. Uh we are all volunteer 100%. There is no one employee at the center. All we do is volunteer for our kids, for our community to make sure the kids are out of the streets, out of the wrong and doing the good uh all of that. uh bringing in daycare center uh basically just to help us uh to manage our financials because we are all based on donations and we go out to the community 24/7 uh literally asking begging for donations in order for us to keep the center doors open and helping people uh gets out of the streets. So the daycare center that it's the daytime we're paying mortgage we're paying all the utilities and expenses but the daytime the center is closed unused and the waste waste of space and waste of money in in a sense. So daycare center that's what it's going to help us with uh financially at least of course bringing some of the elderlies and communities that they have nothing to do nowhere to go brings them together and uh keeps them in a good environment uh environmental plus the health and medical uh help that they will do uh the parking situation what is was mentioned or the street situation I know for a

fact our center and our members we have multiple times have had um many meetings with them with every member whether they're basketball players, whether they're community members, they come in for a town hall meeting or whatn not that do not park on any double street parking, any blocking on the parking. Unfortunately, this recent uh couple of years uh this is happening. I have noticed it also. However, I I want to assure our residents, our neighbors that none of those issues that you have just mentioned are from our uh guests or people that comes to our center. It's mostly and I don't want to uh rat on anybody else, but it's not ours is the cross street neighbors. That's the tenants that come in and drop off and pick up the kids and they're very little kids and all ages in a way. But that's what it is. If you have any other question, I'll be more than happy to answer. Thank you very much. All right. Does the commission have any questions for staff or the applicant?

I have some Sorry. Can I start with staff? Actually, did you want staff or applicant? Sure. We'll start we'll start with questions from staff and we'll probably I saw Commissioner Bennett, then I saw Commissioner Mendes. We'll start with the two of you and I suspect

the other two. I wanted to go back to the 10 van question cuz I did actually did the same math the commenter did cuz what I I guess what I heard you say was that there going to be 100 people in the daycare and the vans contain 10 people a piece and so I did math I said it's 10 vans so it's a it's a 10 seat passenger van um they can the adult daycare we're putting a maximum of 100 of 100 um participants but that that doesn't mean 100 participants are coming it's just a maximum yeah I get that I get that so I guess I think the question from the public comment though was where do the vans go after they drop off?

Yes. So we have this uh if you look at conditions um so condition number 30 in the this is page nine. The adult daycare service shall store vehicles on site or outside of the adult daycare service hours of operation and may not take up the existing eight spaces. The vans cannot utilize on street parking overnight in the vicinity of the project site. Um, so they aren't allowed to park um on on site or or nearby unless there's on-site parking available. Okay. Um, my other question was um I understand that state law says that we cannot mandate parking for this because of its proximity to the Metro Link station. We can't impose parking minimums.

Cannot impose parking minimums. Yes. So, do conditions 16 and 17 not constitute a parking minimum? the ones about that requiring the off-site event parking. Well, no, we're not imposing a parking minimum. We're just saying that they have to secure parking offsite. Um, we're not saying that they have to provide, you know, a certain number of spaces. We're just saying that they have to provide they have to secure parking offsite through a shared parking. If I can clarify, um, so, uh, the findings that need to be made for a conditional use permit.

Yes. look at the operational the proposed operational use as well as its impact to adjacent on-site and adjacent land uses. So one of the ways of addressing that is uh because the it's not being applied to the actual use itself in the sense of the daycare the adult daycare facility but when they have the special events if the special events create an overflow effect in other words they're exceeding the capacity of the street parking they're seating the capacity of the facility.

Okay. Uh typically event operators will be like we have an alternate location where we can uh shuttle people from or have them park and come to the facility. Sure. So if they exceed the capacity on-site and the adjacent facility and that results in uh creating impacts to the use to the the site or the adjacent uses then to be able to make the finding or for us to recommend the finding to you is they have to have a relief valve to that and that is by addressing that use impact for the events by providing an off-site facility. Okay. Okay. Fair enough. Thank you. I'm good. Okay. I have a question regarding the the parking as well.

Sure. Is there there is no is there a reciprocal agreement anywhere because there that currently there is an agreement that they no longer want to comply with. No, they um and the applicant can probably further elaborate, but my understanding is that they currently don't have uh an off-site agreement. There wasn't a condition originally that required them to seek out right

uh third party. Um and that in a sense actually under state law too with some of the requirements uh no longer requires the city to be a third party to those shared agreements. So um because AB2097 removes the the minimum requirement then in essence that standard which would have applied to a the requirement that would have otherwise applied to meeting a standard with off-site parking is no longer applicable. So the alternative to that is for them to uh in the case of them wanting to implement special events is for them to have uh parking uh overflow if the results that they're that the events themselves are going to create a potential impact

and that doesn't impact the city at all. It's it's on them or how

well as far as impact I think if you're asking whether um we have something to do with ensuring that it's a condition of approval. So if at some point in time they uh have issues with special event and the fact is that they're having overflow issues then as noted in one of the conditions uh it says that the director can now request for them to identify specifically where the overflow parking is going to be and it could change uh from event to event but they would have to then at that point show the city where where are your locations where you're anticipating to have overflow. There are uh facilities uh there's an adjacent facility facing the hotel. The common ground location which is um you know has different operational demands. There's uh street park surface parking on a private property diagonally across from uh common grounds. It's across from the hotel and there may be the potential for parking at the IKEA parking lot. Um which is something that they've previously reached out to. But those are the things that they would have to determine. We wouldn't dictate where. It just has to be within walking distance of the location.

Specifically, that condition was uh condition number 16 that gives uh the city development uh community development director or designate the ability to request documentation on a parking arrangement. So, I don't know if this question is for uh the applicant or for the city. I was curious if there for the adult uh daycare. Is there another way for the adults because I noticed there's stairs. Is there another way to access the property? Yes, there's a there's a ADA accessible ramp that leads to the front of the building. Okay.

Is Joe, can you clarify? Is it um because we say the in the report we say front entrance from the parking lot. The entrance from the parking lot. Entrance parking lot. when I I walked by there and all I saw were stairs and I thought, well, how how are these people going to Is there an elevator? Is there another access on the first floor? I I can have the applicant if he wants to come up in further.

That's a good question. Yes, you can't see it from outside, but we do have two ramps. One in the front right next to the stairs on the side that goes around about it's about 50 ft long. And then we have one more uh just added actually recently in the back of the building that gives you access to the directly to the back of the uh the rooms in the back. Okay. So we do have it. And if I may, Chair, just to to for Commissioner Mendes, um their proposed access to comply with ADA requirements when they go to do the tenant improvement work to accommodate the use. Okay.

The building division has to ensure that they meet the requirements under federal law. So they would have to have the proper access points and if there's anything that's deficient, they'd have to bring it up to code. So if the ramps are not proper slope, okay, they're not the proper distances for switchbacks to come and give the proper slope to get in and out of the facility, they would have to accommodate those requirements. and that access is currently there now. But if a problem arises then okay

if they're going to propose and you're going to and you were to approve the use and they were going to proceed with the use that's one of the things that building division would actually be looking at. So it's one thing to approve it from a zoning standpoint but then they still have to get the proper permitting from building and safety so that they would ensure that that is in conformance. Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. Commissioner Van Gordor, you look like you have questions.

Yeah, I have a couple. I'm not sure how to couch this either. Um, but I mean, uh, I'm a big fan of the Blue Room and the Engole Tavern over there. And they have a pretty aggressive towing program, uh, which is if you park in the Blue Rooms parking lot and you go someplace else, then they will try to find you and if they can't find you, then the car gets towed. Um, what recourse do the locals have to get cars removed from driveways? Cuz apparently that's a pretty consistent problem.

I think one of the speakers uh noted that they had talked to the police department. Police department had told them to call if someone is blocking the driveway, but um I think there's another way to kind of make it more direct to the operator. And that is uh in the letter that was included in your attachment, there were some components where um including information for your uh business tenants or visitors to your location. um if the commission so uh is inclined um I think it would be good for both like you know hey new new um users of the location whether it's uh for the people that are dropping people off or for uh for the children is annually to give them kind of a a form that says you know help us be a good neighbor please uh make sure you're not doing XYZ blocking driveways parking in uh you know double parking all the requirements that are kind of written into the conditions is to take that and put it in a kind of a onepage information sheet. Um, and we've done that uh when it comes to like um uh child daycare facilities, we've had things where we where the commission has or us or staff has required them to provide these handouts. And then with that, also note that if you fail to comply with those requirements, those could be grounds for not being allowed to participate in the programs. But I don't want to um write a check with someone else's checkbook. So I'm just saying these are things that have occurred in the past. But if the commission so desires that something like that, anformational requirement that says how to be a good neighbor both when parking, picking up, um that may be something if you want to include that as a condition, I would probably uh suggest to the count to the commission that you ask the applicant directly if they have something similar to that that they hand

out. Can they have something? And I would I would suggest though that to uh Mr. Mr. Yubuchi's point that the uh code the condition of approval regarding the community liaison representative at the location that it be extended so that it's um that information is readily available both on the entrances so there's an actual number to call so that people don't have to try to chase somebody down if it is someone related to the event uh but then also to actually distribute with mailer uh to everybody within 1,000 ft like we did the notice uh the information for who the community lays on is so that that information is available for the public. And I I did want to touch on the point that I think someone mentioned they didn't receive the notice. Um we'll go back and double check, but we have signed uh affidavit that notes the um the list of all um property owners and residents that received it. So we can go back and confirm uh who did or didn't receive it from that. But based on what we understand, that was the latest tax assessor's role information and that's who gets the mailer. So, I just wanted to make sure we clarified that as well.

Cool. Thank you. Um, uh, sir, the applicant, I have a few more questions for you. Um,

yes, basically expanding on what we just heard. Um, I mean, I had some questions here. How can the setter better attend to the concerns that you've heard from all your neighbors? Um, I think that we should have a anformational requirement as a condition. Uh, uh, and to have a number two posted where people can, you know, if somebody's blocking, then go to get that information out to people. Um, but either way, um, can you please commit to a policy of uh internal enforcement for these for these rules? Like I have written down like can you commit to a policy of reprimand, but I think that uh it's been couched a little better. Well, uh, yes, as much as we can. Obviously, we've done it before and we've done it multiple times with our members, our guests, and make sure that they don't block, they don't double park, they don't uh we try to find a way, a parking location, whatever that, you know, that everybody is comfortable with and we, you know, within a walking distance. However, yes, we definitely will, uh, make whatever it necessary to make it work, you know, with within our group. But then again, you know, there are other tenants in the in this street. I cannot be responsible. We cannot be responsible for everybody else's actions. And we blame that because we don't know the car that's parked in blocking somebody else's driveway. Not necessarily ours, but just because they're there, automatically we're the biggest organization there. Let's attack them. I don't think that that's also a fair uh evaluation in a way.

Yeah, I understand. I can tell that you're going to do your part on behalf of your organization. Okay. Absolutely. Um I had one more question um about the events in uh um I'm a little confused as to why um with the daycare expansion um we're getting uh uh requests for 24 events at night. Um but setting that aside, the events that you're intending on having um do you do you expect to have a lot of amplified sound? Honestly throughout this years uh as a nighttime event we've had maybe one or two gallas that it had attends larger attendance and we had music but that happened indoor in the gym that it's enclosed. It's away from the everybody and the neighbors and all that. So there's no really sound going out to the neighbors and that that effect if it does does happen. the rest of the events that generally we have it's town hall meetings general meetings community meetings type of those kind of things or smaller events and we don't rent out the center to the public so we don't have uh every weekend parties like a banquet hall and any like that we have absolute no intent of doing that we we don't have the manpower to manage it or anything in that factor so that if that is a concern that will not be issue

thank you sir you're welcome thank No, you good. Any You're good. Okay. I I just Sorry. I was just going to say just to to follow up with him. Um Jos Wanibuchi, associate planner, we did have uh in our conditions of approval that uh any of the events that the facility does host will be um con connected to or related to the mission of the of the youth center. um they they're not just going to hire they're not permitted to hire just you know outside events and and unrelated to uh the mission of the of the of the community youth center. So I just wanted to make sure that was that was in the record.

Thank you very much. Um I have some couple questions for staff and a couple questions for the applicant more just to like clean up to make sure we're on the same page with our questioning or maybe we're not on the same page. I don't know. But as far as the the event list is with the memo where it says it's on exhibit D2, is that all inclusive of the events that will be held at the center? Uh chair, the way the way the letter is written, it says uh it doesn't say limited to. It says such as. So, okay. So, that's to you your question. This is what we've been informed

that they're wanting to include. If you want to uh make it more finite, uh it's well within the purview of the commission to identify that, it may be good, I think, to ask the applicant uh you know, like now you're being asked by the commission what are the types of events. Uh it's always within your purview to ask for clarity as to like we need more detail, right? like you're trying to get assurances of what the types of use are and mitigate and limit the impacts to the neighborhood. I think it's a fair question.

Great. Thank you so much. And then going back to AB uh 2097, I'm not 100% up on all the all the text of it. Does that null parking requirements for existing conditional use permits or is it conditional use permits moving forward or putting forth no parking? Yeah. Do you understand what I'm asking?

Our attorney can also chime in here, Kane. But uh on our end, we looked at the request. We looked at the request they made to forego the requirement. Um the condition that was on there for the 41 spaces uh was imposed when they originally approved the project. Um they've been operating the ANC in their current state without identified location for 41 spaces. um with the study that was done. Um that was kind of our uh verification of whether the uh proposed use um would in essence qualify for AB2097 exemption is like is can they accommodate their use without creating a situation where uh continuing to keep that type of a condition in place would be necessary. So, it was our assessment that what they were proposing that the request under AB2097 could be considered by the commission uh and that it would be considered because there was this additional supporting information for the um these alternate ways of addressing the parking for the range of uses that they're proposing.

Okay. Thank you. Members of the commission, this is Kane Twin, senior assistant city attorney. Uh yes, there's uh a lot of new government code provisions that limit what a city can do. All in the spirit of creating more development housing and this is kind of one of them. Um it basically says that we cannot impose minimum automotive uh parking requirements on development projects within half a mile public transit. And so courts have interpreted uh and a lot of practitioners have interpreted that uh conditional use of permit approval is a de development project. So that's why uh staff has interpreted it to apply to this project.

Okay. And so consist current agreements are those still valid or are they what I'm trying to get at is and I'm not I'm not saying we're going to do this. But I I want to talk about the argument of oh just don't approve it because then the parking minimum is still there. I just I want to get into the weeds of that. I I mean I can tell you we've had AB2097 requests uh more than a handful of times and uh we've had sites that have been originally built with a parking standard uh and the requests have come forth they've done tenant improvement work or some improvements and uh based on state law we've had to basically say you don't have a parking minimum. Uh many have still retained the parking, but they were at that point no longer uh deficient because the requirement doesn't apply anymore, but they still retained their parking. It's just we couldn't impose it based on this provision of the law.

Understood. Okay. I have a couple of questions for the applicant, please. Sorry to make you keep on getting up, getting down. Not a problem. I like the exercise. Oh, good. I'm glad. All right. Going going back to the parking. Why are you removing your um why are you asking for the offsite to be um removed? Is it because it's state law? Are you finding you're not using it? Um your 41 spaces the requirement the state law basically allows it and uh who doesn't want to take the law when it's there? That's fair. Do you do you just out of curiosity I won't hold you to it. Do you use your off-site parking now or do you find that it's not

on-site parking? Off-site. Yeah, we use offsite parking. Of course, the streets, of course, the people coming in, we use the on-site and offsite, obviously. Yes. Okay. And just to clarify the van math because I know you're all getting confused. How many vans, how many 10 passenger vans does your facility have? From what I know, it's five. It's five. Okay. And those are parked overnight where they when they do once the event program is finished, they they take the guests, I guess, uh, out to to the residents and they park outside somewhere else. They're not on the property and they're not parking around the property. Okay.

They're not parking, you know, anywhere near near us. They they have their own parking lot that they park. And does each driver manage the van? Meaning, does the Yes, the operator is responsible for the van. We are not responsible for the vans. It's their vans, their drivers, their employees, whatever the case may be. Uh yeah, they operate it. They bring it in the bring in the the clients whatever and then uh they take it out take them out and they park the car wherever they park. The next morning uh same routine they pick them up. I guess each driver keeps the van I would assume. So in the morning they come they go and pick up their you know patients or clients.

Okay, understood. So it's you you hire a third party company to drive the vans. the operator of the daycare operator the operator of the dayare there's an operator that was going to manage all that also got it part of their their their thing okay all right so I had questions about the dayto-day the daycare but it sounds like you wouldn't be able I can try some but can you describe what's a daily day like with adult daycare what's what's kind of like a schedule um what do you anticipate

well uh Not particular for this one, but I have some general ideas of other daycarees. I'm I'm a real estate broker, so I do work I have worked with other daycarees in the businesses. So, I somewhat have an idea. Well, in the morning they drop off uh they bring in their clients when they have a breakfast, they have uh during the day they have breakfast, they have music, uh they exercise, they have exercise equipment. There's always nurses on on the location. They they take care of their medication. They help them with their medication or medical you need basic stuff that they like there. It's not a medical facility. uh but they have if the patient has or the attendee has a I don't know medication that they need to have a peel or something they just keep an eye on them so they they actually have it take take their peel things like that then they have their lunch they have some entertainment they play games and back came and whatnot play games and then after uh lunch uh they all go home

okay understood thank you for that that's generally I mean not necessarily everyone is same that's helpful because sometimes people don't know what adult daycare is all about. And then as um as far as the events go, um are you willing to have in your conditional use permit that you will not rent out your facility? Um no rental. Okay. I just want to make it. Yes, it is an item in be in a banquet hall. Definitely not. Okay. I just I just want to confirm Yes.

from staff and make sure. And then are you willing to also commit to in your conditional use permit having a sign on the premises um saying, you know, please respect the neighbors. Do not block driveways. You're not willing to do that? There's no second doubt about that. Oh, I'll have it done next week. Oh, you'll have it done next week. That's the That's the easiest part. We like that. And then what about distributing a written notice to your patrons once a year? Are you comfortable doing that or is that

uh you know what I don't 100% commit with you uh to you why because of the cost. I don't know what the cost would be. We have to print couple of thousand of them and of course those are will be wasted here and there once you hand it out you know verbally we have general meetings the different groups and we we always announce it and force it and uh during the events we always have somebody outside trying to manage somehow but you know I don't want to commit it but we'll we'll do our best to do that okay and then are you comfortable with the sign being English Spanish and Armenian is that we could do Okay.

Um, and then as far as the live or as as far as the music goes, um, how many times would you say that you typically have music? I don't know, may maybe three, four times a year. I mean, really, we really don't have that many. We haven't had any like big gallas, big events and anything that we do at the center. It's all about fundraising. It's not about parties. It's not about just because we want to it's all about fundraising. If we do anything, it's about fundraising. And really, it's not not that many. Okay.

We do have other events. We have like bizaar uh about uh Christmas uh market so-called whatever. We have had that in the past. Just last two years, we haven't had it. But previously we had it. So that's that's like on a Saturday or a Sunday that during the day that people come in and some you know community uh stores or small mom and pop shops come in and uh just that also just fundraising bringing people to the center introducing them to the center and some fundraising with it.

Okay. Um and there's there's no right or wrong answer. I'm just curious is would you be comfortable limiting your live music to once a month or is that not something that you'd be willing to entertain? You know what? If you want me to lie to you, yes. Okay. You know, you know what? I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. And I don't want to Today I'm there. I'm I'm managing it. I can say yes. Tomorrow I'm not there. Somebody else does it. They're going to play. I don't know. So, I don't want to commit anything that I can't guarantee. No, I can't control. But I tell you for sure that any music that there is, it's indoors

and there is rarely ever uh there's music outside or loud enough music. We have had gathering like fire around the fire or something kids gather and sing but that's not an amplified uh event. It's just a kids scouts getting together and uh doing uh you know bonfire kind of thing. Not about bonfire but you know in that kind of a concept. I appreciate the honesty. Thank you so much. You're welcome. My pleasure. Um, all right. I think that's it for me. Do any commissioners have any other questions?

No questions. You're good, Commissioner Mendez. No more questions. Okay. All right. Seeing no more questions, the planning commission will now deliberate. What is the planning commission's pleasure? Commissioner. Oh, I thought you were. I was turning it off. I didn't realize it. I'm happy to approve given the discussion that we had this evening. Okay. Are you moving to approve as written or as amended or what are you what's

I just expressing an opinion? If someone else wants to make a formal motion, I'll let you I was just No, no, it's fine. I'm taking your temperature. Yeah. Yeah, 77° F. Thank you. Thank you very much. Um, Commissioner Van Gorder, I mean, shouldn't it be much higher than that? Isn't 77 internal or external temperature? Hope my skin is not 100°. Concerned about your health, my man. I appreciate it. I appreciate it.

Um, I think I'd be a lot more comfortable um if the uh theformational requirement uh as a condition was part of the uh um was part of the agreements here and the number to call posted. like I I'm sure we can trust them uh to operate in good faith. Um but I is that um are those two conditions uh written down in our attachment one here? No, we would I believe have two

the there's um madam chair if I may. Um so uh one was we were making a suggestion that and it sounds like that's what you're discussing right now. You're deliberating so I'm just trying to read the tea leaves here with you. uh that there's one condition on community lison on that was specifically geared towards special event but if I'm reading what you're saying commissioner Vang Gorder is that you would want it that community lesson on to be information that's available just generally operationally uh for the facility throughout the entire operation not just for special events. Yeah. If if there's a number to call um if there's a problem with the parking then they need to have some sort of

contact information, signage, all that. Um, I think we can work on that language to to if that's one, you're still deliberating. So, I'm just trying to channel uh what Commissioner Vanguard is saying. So, that's that's one thing is amend that condition so that it's uh it's a requirement across the board just operationally for them to provide ease of access to community leazison information and that there's proper signage that shows that information. The other one that I heard you say was uh we asked the applicant and as much as I I appreciate the honesty from the applicant but I also uh it also is very reflective of why we have conditions of approval because uh on the city side there's an enforcement trigger and that is uh whether that particular person is there or not those requirements run with the land. So they are recorded against the property. So if there is failure to comply, there is a recourse both for the city and for uh members of the public cuz that's one of the things the public's going to ask of you is well how are they going to abide? So, with that said, um if you uh so desire and and the commission agrees to include that, you could add a condition that says that they have to provide uh basically a handout to all um participants or all people that attend. that uh is kind of like a good neighbor policy that identifies the things like uh as far as double parking, not blocking driveways, uh maintaining certain levels of, you know, respect for the neighbors, um those kind of things. Um when we can work, staff can work with the applicant to provide that information. Um, you know, I acknowledge, yes, there's a cost to it, but uh, this is a request being made of the commission, so it's well within your purview to require that that be a condition. Uh, and in the grand scheme of things, if that is the tipping point to consider approval, that is something that uh, if it is conditioned, that'll be a requirement for them to proceed with the project. Yeah, I would like very much to proceed

with that, especially given that um it may work in the applicant's favor in that um if they get complaints, if they get three more complaints, then they have to work out a whole other alternative parking situation, which might end up costing more than the printing costs of 500 to a,000 pieces of literature. Um yes. So, please add that as a condition. Oh, I propose that that be added as a condition. You're having a discussion. So are we saying that is that will be a trigger for all the conditions or is it just for the parking issue? Sorry, you lost me.

Okay, my concern is okay there are a lot of conditions but how will they be enforced? How you know how will we know that something is they they are not complying? So is that what this proposal is for? What you're suggesting? I'm not suggesting an enforcement mechanism as much as just in addition to the things like a sign is easy enough to check on, right?

Um, anybody can say there is or isn't a sign. Um, and I think that if there were um, local businesses in the area, uh, I I suspect that they could go to the premises and see if the literature uh, was printed or provided um, or in places that are obvious as part of a good faith program to be good neighbors, right? Oh, I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt you. What I'm referring to is enforcement of the conditions. How will those be enforced if there is any violation? I think that's the city but

for chair if if I may. Uh this is part of your deliberation. You've asked a question uh Mr. Mendes. Um the enforcement requirements at the end of the day uh if we receive a complaint or or we identify that there is something that is not being done in compliance with those conditions of approval, then the city actually does the enforcement action. They do what's called a notice of violation. Okay.

We we actually provide them with written uh notifications, specific conditions that are not being complied with, and then they're given a reasonable period of time, usually within like a 30-day window. Depends on the level of of the violation. If it's a life safety issue, it's not 30 days. It has to be like you have to address this immediately, but let's just say uh within that range, a reasonable period of time. And then if they fail to comply, then um it's um we ratchet enforcement up. So in other words, uh the worst case scenario would be failure to comply results in us scheduling what they call a revocation hearing and that would actually come back to the planning commission and you would then consider the violation, the failure to comply and whether that warrants um in essence uh removing their conditional use permit which is significant because it would remove uh all the uh benefits of having a conditional use permit to operate at that location. So that that in a nutshell collectively is how the conditions would be enforced.

Okay. So I want to push back here for a second because I feel like we're conflating a couple of issues that I think should be teased apart. Right. There there are concerns there were there were concerns expressed tonight by the community about their existing operations but I would take the position that those are not in front of us tonight. like we are not litigating we're not relitigating their existing approvals right there's one part of what we are litigating not literally which is the adult daycare where I don't believe there are any particular concerns about the impact on the surrounding businesses right the I don't think the vans are going to be parking in everyone else's parking lots right and then there's the third part which is kind of the expansion of the conditional use permit permit, which is what the conditions are attached to. But I guess I I heard you, Commissioner Van Gorder, as trying to sort of attach conditions that really apply to their existing permit to their new permit, which I guess I think maybe is not fair.

I'd like to push back a little bit there in that we've got the events as part of the conditions. Um yes uh the daytime the the adult daycare is also looping in this thing for 24 events uh that will be at night. So we do have in front of us something uh that the adult daycare is not looping in the events. Those are separate concerns

but it is it is part of the same uh application that's in front of us as the CP. So I think that gives us latitude to talk about their operation all like up for the full day. Commissioners, if I may, uh, a conditional use permit at at its essence is trying to condition some type of land use so remain compatible with the rest of the neighborhood. So, we could allow it to happen. And so, there was an existing CUP. It gave certain rights. Um, it sounds like there's some neighbor complaints that could be relayed to the previous operations on from that CU. You're right. Today, we're talking about a new uh CU in essence amending the previous CUP. So, it's asking for permission to operate this new use. And so our discussion in some ways should be limited that but I do think as an operational concern and based upon some of the uh information that we've been provided we could uh draw a nexus of connection between what the use is going to be at the site and what your conditions are as long as we could support the connection why we're imposing that condition with the land use and show that it's makes harmonious compatibility with you know the way the location is supposed to be at. I think we can impose that condition. The only limitation is if we want to create something that is totally unrelated to the proposed application, right? That's when you're going to run into trouble. So, you do have some leeway here. Um, from what I've been hearing, um, things about the operational requirements about designating community leaison for impacts, uh, so it could be handled um, and information about, you know, what the limitations of facility are, what the limitations of parking are. I think that's to me uh something that was related to what I've been hearing and I think that's something that you guys could can suggest if that's something you want to include in this uh as new conditions.

Okay. Very good.

If we wanted to proceed then with these two additional conditions, we would then instruct uh the planning department to come back with um a new resolution for our next meeting. Is that what I'm hearing? I don't think we need to come in the past. We've made conditions. I'm just thinking you've even like for a car wash where we've imposed additional conditions and said and included it in our approval of a conditional use permit. So, what what I would say and what I'm understanding is including a condition of signage in um if the commission desires in English, Spanish, and Armanian just um about not blocking driveways. And I believe Mr. Mir Ramirez was saying that this is a pretty common sign that they do. And then the other question was a written notice to their patrons once a year. If um if the commission that's the commission's perview, um we can do do that. I'm I'm seeing I'm seeing a nod from Commissioner Van Gorder. Okay. So, we could put those two things in. Is there any further discussion on the CUP the findings?

No, I'm good. Okay. Did you want to break it down any further? I'm good. I I just think uh we got number 45 and number 46 on our very long list of uh conditions. Right.

Okay. Um I'll say that I can I can make the findings as as we're amending for this. Um you know, I I recognize the significance in the community that um that the complex allows and I think it's great that the youth have somewhere to go. I think it's community events are great. I mean, it looks like by the list you have a very long roster. I am very very concerned about the parking requirements and the traffic requirements, but I have to go by the study that we've used this transportation company before, so I know that they're good. Um, what I would recommend, and we can't necessarily say this, but I would recommend, um, sir, touching base with some of the neighbors here tonight, maybe exchanging contact information and just trying to if there is animosity, maybe just trying to speak to each other, and that goes on both sides just to see if you can rectify an issue. I would very much recommend that, but obviously we can't make that a requirement tonight. Um, would anybody like to further deliberate? Does anybody want to make a motion?

I'd like to make a motion. Oh, yes.

No, no issues. I I just want to I just wanted to uh let the commission know that uh there's several ways we could go about this, right? I mean, the the one option, it sounds like where we're heading is we want there's a leaning towards approval with some modifications. Now, if that's the route we want to take, we could make the modifications right now on the record. It's been a while since I've written conditions of approval on the fly, but I can take a stab at it if that's the the the preference of the commission. Or the other option is for the commission to give us direction and approve it and return with resolution to be ratified or adopted that next week. That those are the two options. Uh the first option obviously we have some certainty right now uh with with with the on this item and the conditions in the books. Uh the second option everyone everyone could look at it and make sure it all you know is exactly the way you want it written. Um so that's the pros and cons of of those two options.

I find the first option to be thrilling. Okay. Find it thrilling. Okay. Um I'll say to that I I mean this project starts with one nine. It's been around the block for a little bit and so I I really and I know that there's a lot of different factors. I'm not beating up on staff. Let me just state that. But um I'm I'm comfortable with option one as well. Um any other would anybody like to make a motion?

Uh so chair if if you're open to option one. I did take a stab at the two conditions. Uh, so, uh, now's the time to tell me if I'm totally crazy and didn't hear you guys right. Um, I think after the conditions are read though, I think it might be a good idea to ask the applicant to confirm that they're okay with the conditions before the final vote. Um but for the two conditions uh I see uh condition number 45 uh permit must designate a community liaison to coordinate site related issues including complaints related to uh queuing double parking or drop off pickup activities. Um and then uh condition number 46 uh permanent must provide uh notice including signs or writtenformational pamphlets subject to the satis satisfaction of the community development director uh about parking limitations. Uh the written notice has to be in three languages uh English, Armenian and Spanish. And it has to be provided at least once per year to our all participants or users of the site. I like everything except the word or in the second one there. Um saying signs or in written informational. It should be and

and I'm okay with that too. And just one last tweak on the first one when it lists the different conditions under which the community is on uh we should include uh blocking of driveways. I don't think we had that in there too. I agree. Yes. Yeah. Are we making a motion? Are we Commissioner Van Gord?

So if those conditions of approval as as we've kind of uh discussed right now uh works for the commission, we could uh make a motion to approve the resolution subject to modifications that add conditions number 45 and 46. And you could just say so moved. If you don't, didn't we need to bring up the applicant to make sure that that's doable or that's Yes, that that's that's a good practice. I should listen to my own myself. Sir, could you come up here one more time? Thank you. Are you okay with those requirements on your conditional use permit? Once a year passing out a pamphlet

and putting a sign on the building uh three languages that don't park in the street, don't don't cover driveway, block the driveways. I don't know how big of a sign would that be if we have to word out all those stuff unless it's going to be very tiny words letters but then again yes it's not a problem we can do it just matter of how how big that lettering uh is going to be and the leazison and the liaison uh you know like I said it's a volunteer organization but we'll put a phone number in there and whoever picks it up that will be the leazison at that point I mean I can't put a name to that but there'll be a number with the committee on absolutely

and and just so so they're clear uh the reason they're asking you this is if they're contemplating approving it these would be conditions upon which the approval would be granted not a problem okay those are not an issue thank you for don't want you I'm asking you please don't punish us for somebody else's mistakes of course that's all I'm asking this isn't a punishment we're No I'm just generally speaking trying to balance the equities at that I'm a commissioner myself I know how how hard it is to go through this. Thank you for your public service. I really appreciate it. Thank you. All right, we have a motion. Do we have a second? I'll second.

All right, second by or first by Commissioner Van Gorder, second by Commissioner Men Menddees. Any further discussion? And just to clarify, chair, that includes the two conditions as uh uh provided uh by the city attorney. Yes, it does. All righty. Thank you. So moved. All right. Uh Madame City Clerk, may we have a roll call, please? Chair Wick, yes. Commissioner Rangorder, yes. Commissioner Bennett, yes. Commissioner Mendes, yes. Motion passes. Thank you.

Thank you very much. All right, moving on. Sorry, I have to find the correct piece of paper. Um, moving on to item now number two. Now is the time and place for the public hearing of project number 22-00007823, a request for the conditional use permit and development review to allow the demolition of a 47,188 square ft of an existing building with the retention of a third of 13136 square ft of the building area and an addition of a new 162,536 ft 4story building for an existing public storage facility extra space storage at 2801 Thornton Avenue. The project site is zone general industrial M2 with a general planned land use designation of institutional. Before we begin, have any planning commissioner members had any legal, financial, or any other conflict relating to this hearing?

No. No. No. No. I'm hearing four nos. Have any planning commissioners have any planning commissioner members had any communications including written or oral with any person regarding this project? No. No. No. No. I'm hearing four nos. Mr. Ramirez, have the notices is required by law been given? Yes, they have. All right. Are there any written communications on this matter? Uh, not for this item. We didn't receive any written communications.

Thank you. Will the representative of the community development department please introduce yourself and summarize the matter for us? Good evening, chair, uh, members of the commission. My name is Josephi, associate planner. The project before you this evening is a request to allow for the demolition of 47,188 ft, retention of 13,136 ft of existing building area, and the addition of a new 162,536q ft four-story building for an existing public storage facility located at 2801 Thornton Avenue. Next slide, please. The site is approximately 2.01 101 acres and is surrounded by commercial industrial uses with highdensity residential across the Thornton across Thornton Avenue. The project site is currently developed with a four building self- storage facility that is outlined here in red. Next slide, please. The project is located in the M2 general industrial zone and is surrounded by other uses in the M2 as well as fire station number 13 which abuts the property to the east and is the subject of plan development 91-3. Multif family residential properties are located in the R4 zone across the street as shown on the image to the left. And the property has a general plan land use designation of institutional which provides city facilities, public schools, flood control channels, railroad tracks, and other public and private institutions. The site is operated as a public storage facility since the existing building's construction in 1994, and the proposed expansion remains consistent with the intent of the institutional designation, which states as a goal that Burbank's institutional uses provide valuable community services. This project would allow an existing community serving community serving business to expand while maintaining compatibility with the surrounding development.

The applicant requests approval of a conditional use permit and development review to allow the demolition of 47,188 square ft, retention of the 13,136 ft square ft of existing building area in addition of a new 162,536 ft four-story building for the existing public storage facility on the project site. The total building area will be 175,672 square ft with um and a new within a new fourstory building and will include 30 parking spaces as shown on the project plans. Uh this is the existing site as you can currently see you got an off there's an office space and then we have the uh storage facility um singlestory uh facility behind. Next next slide please. And then as shown in the photos above, the property is surrounded by fire station number 13 located on the top left um which abuts the property to the east. We have multif family properties located directly across Thornton Avenue like the one that you see at the bottom photo uh in the R4 zone. And then at the top right we have M2 zone retail buildings abuing the site to the west. BMC section 10-1-502 requires planning commission approval of a CUP for public storage facilities that are residentially adjacent as defined in BMC section 10-1-203. Residentially adjacent means any commercially or industrially zoned property located within 150 ft of any residentially zoned property. Um, and the project is approximately 65 ft from R4 zone property across the street. For this assessment, city staff considered, excuse me, considered one, whether the project is consistent with the Burbank 2035 general plan, two, whether the project complies with BMC zoning regulations, three, whether the proposed

use would be compatible with other uses in the surrounding area, and four, whether the project complies with all findings required for CUP approval. This proposed project is consistent with all requirements necessary for approval. BMC Burmick Municipal Code section 10-1-14084B requires one parking space for every thousand square feet of adjusted gross flare floor area for warehouses and buildings used in whole or in part for storage purposes. Based on the proposed uh square footage of the building, the propo the project would require 175 parking spaces. However, the project site is within an area subject to government code section 65863.2, 2, also known as AB2097, which limits local agencies from imposing minimum parking requirements for certain developments located near major transit stops. As such, the project is not subject to the minimum parking requirements of BMC section 10-1-1408. Though the project impo proposes 30 parking spaces, including 20 standard spaces, two Americans with disabil disabilities act accessible spaces, two spaces reserved for electric vehicles, and six spaces designated for clean air vehicles. Next, next page, please. Staff has included several conditions of approval to ensure safe and orderly site operations, including that best management practices shall include, but are not limited to designation of approved hall routes, trucking hall routes for all construction related activities, scheduling of deliveries to avoid peak traffic hours to the extent feasible, and on-site management of loading and unloading activities. The applicant shall ensure that construction vehicles do not block travel lanes, driveways, or sidewalks and shall comply with all applicable city requirements related to traffic control and construction uh operations. Additional BMPs shall include dust control, debris management, and measures to minimize noise and vibration consistent with

applicable BB Burbank municipal code standards. Uh staff has also uh included a condition on the office hours which are to be from 6:00 a.m. to 10 p.m. daily with the office with office specifically the office hours going from 9:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Monday through Friday and then 9:00 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. Saturday and Sunday. Considering the categorical exemption analysis which staff has provided in exhibit E, staff recommend that the planning commission find the project is categorically exempt from the SQA from SQA pursuant to SQA guidelines section 15332 class 32 pertaining to infield development that would not result in any significant effects related to traffic, noise, air quality, or water quality. The class 32 categorical exemption is applicable because the project is consistent with the applicable general plan designation and all applicable zoning designation and regulations and is proposed within city limits on a site of no more than 5 acres substantially surrounded by urban uses. The project can be adequately served by all utilities and public services and the project has no value as a habitat for endangered, rare, or threatened species. Public outreach for this project was done in accordance with Burmick Municipal Code section 10-1-1942, which includes a newspaper notice, mailed notices to tenants and property owners within a 1,000 ft radius, and installation of an on-site sign, all at least 10 business days prior to this hearing. No public comments in support or opposition to this project were received prior to the hearing. Therefore, staff recommends that the planning commission approve the C request by adopting a resolution of the planning commission of the city of Burbank approving a conditional use permit and development review project number 22-00007823 and associated environmental

determination. This concludes staff's presentation and I'm available to answer any questions. Thank you. Thank you very much. I will now invite the applicant or their representative to address the planning commission. You will have a maximum time of 15 minutes to make your presentation.

Good evening uh commissioners. Uh my name is Ruben Dorte. I'm the director for plan entitlements with Somos group acting as representatives uh for the applicant extra space storage. Uh we do not have a presentation today but we are available to answer any questions if you have it. Thank you.

Thank you very much. All right. We will now open the meeting to a hear from any persons who wish to speak on this matter. Each person may address the planning commission for a maximum time of 3 minutes. For members of the public who wish to comment in person, please present a completed speaker card to planning staff. If you wish to speak for members of the public that wish to comment by telephone, please call 818-2383335 to address the planning commission. Callers will be placed in a queue until all inerson comments have been received. The phone lines are now open. Please bear with us as it may take a couple of minutes for the first callers to get through the line. For callers, please remember to lower the volume on your TV or computer and take your phone off speaker when you deliver public comment. Madame Clerk, do we have any speakers here tonight or callers on the line?

We do not have speakers or callers. All right, we'll give it one minute. No. All right. There being no further public comment on this item, I doubt to declare the public comment period closed unless was Scott or was Mr. Planbeck. Oh, okay. I just was making sure there wasn't that wasn't like a flagging because All right, you're good to go. No last minute public storage people. Okay. Um, would the representative at a community development department like to make any further comments? No further comments at this time. Thank you.

Okay. Does the applicant or their representative wish to make any further comments? Do we have a maximum time of 10 minutes? No. I'm seeing a no from the gentleman in the audience. Does the commission have any questions of staff or the applicant? Any questions? I just had one question for staff. I was just curious. I understand we normally mandate operational hours. Um why are the office hours additionally mandated in the in the C? I wouldn't say they were mandated. These were uh offered by the applicant. So, we just included them in the staff report.

Oh, okay. I just I guess I interpreted this as if they wanted to like not open the office until 10:00, that would violate their permit or something. No. Oh, okay. Yeah. No, not at this. No, that's No problem. These are their these are their proposed office hours. Okay. Okay. No problem. Any further questions? I just have a question. Am I on? Um, it's just far. Yes.

Um, I noticed that there is some construction going on across the street uh for four units right across the street from this project. So, I don't know about the permitting time and so forth and so on. So, you know, I was just wondering the timing, you know, do they have their permits? when are they going to start construction on either project?

Uh, uh, I I I wouldn't be able to speak to the construction that's going on across the street at this time. Um, but for this project, I can say that um, you know, once we go through the entitlement, of course, they'll have to go through plan checks. So, we're still a ways away from actual construction. Um, but we did try to speak to, you know, um, obviously we're very sensitive to the fact that there's a residential community across the street. So, we want to make sure that there are no adverse impacts to the community from the construction that's caused by this project. And so, we've included some conditions of approval to ensure that um there will be no adverse impacts to the community.

Yeah, cuz Yeah, it shows that there's a 4unit highdensity apartment building going up and there's it's all fenced. Uh I I don't want to speak on I don't want to speak on a project that uh that I'm not sure about right now. But uh yeah, keep keep in mind this is the scope of the hearing is for this project, not anything else. Okay.

I think I think chair if I may just uh you you bring up a good point though. They're um uh both building and safety public works. Um they deal with the truck routes over like you know demo ingress and egress as well as building and safety and the issuance of permits. uh they'll post they'll put the construction um you know fencing up and then they'll work with the actual contractor to make sure that there's not going to be potential conflict between construction activity occurring in adjacent or in the immediate vicinity. We also have the fire station right

next door. So, so, uh, it's not lost on us, but it is something that city staff, when I say city staff, the collective city staff will be working with the applicant to make sure that, um, once they initiate that process, we're not in conflict. Uh, you know, both for emergency eress and access, but also uh so that we're not creating a situation where we have two construction efforts that are occurring and all of a sudden uh they're creating a bottleneck in the street. So, that that will be addressed as well, right? because it's just two lanes. It's, you know, it's a really tiny street.

Correct. So, uh, but but we have, uh, I I anticipate, um, they will be coordinating with the inspectors, uh, and, um, and then they'll be providing that information to the traffic engineering staff and public works to make sure that they ensure that there's not going to be that conflict. Okay. Any further questions? No. All right. I have no questions. I will now declare the public hearing closed and the planning commission will now deliberate. What is the planning commission's pleasure?

Anyone? Happy to make a motion to approve, please. Sure. I let me make sure I get the wording right here. Uh, I will move that we approve uh project 22-00007823, a request for conditional use permit and development review to allow demolition of 47,188 ft², retention of 13,36 ft of existing building area and the addition of a new 162,536 ft four-story building for an existing public storage facility at 2801 Thornton Avenue. All right, we have a motion. Second.

Okay, we have a motion in a second. Any further deliberation? All right, Madame Clerk, may we have a roll call, please? Chair Wick, yes. Commissioner Van Gorder, yes. Commissioner Mendes, yes. Commissioner Bennett, yes. Motion passes. Thank you.

Great. Thank you very much. Okay, moving on to our third and final item. Well, moving on. This is now is the time and place for the public hearing of project number 26-00001453. A request for a conditional use permit to allow permitted gym equinox to open at 5:00 a.m. Monday through Friday during the city's late night business hours midnight to 6:00 a.m. The proposed overall hours of operation will be 5:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. Monday through Friday and 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. on Saturday and Sunday. Equinox is a gym located at 3,400 West Riverside Drive, Sweet 150 Studio Plaza within the media district specific plan and is a zone media district limited commercial MDC-2. Before we begin, do any planning commission members have any legal, financial, or any other conflict of interest relating to this hearing?

No. No. No. No. Hearing four nos. Have any planning commission members had any communications, including written or oral, with any person, regarding this project? No. No. No. No. I'm hearing four nos. Um, Mr. Ramirez, has the notices as required by law been given? Yes, they have. All right. Are there any written communications on this matter? Uh, we didn't receive any uh written communications on this item. All right. Will the representative of the community development department please introduce yourself and summarize the matter before us?

Great. Good evening, Chair Wick and members of the planning commission. My name is Narik Mccertumian, associate planner with the Burbank Community Development Department. May I please have the presentation? Thank you. This evening, I'll be presenting an application for a conditional use permit project number 26-00001453, a request to allow Equinox, a permitted gym, to open at 5:00 a.m. Monday through Friday during the city's late night business hours at 3400 West Riverside Drive, Sweet 150. The business representatives for Equinox are here tonight and will be available for questions that the planning commission may have. Next slide. The project site is located within Studio Plaza, an existing 13-story commercial building in the media district specific plan area. Equinox will occupy portions of the first and second floor that were previously used as a cafe and office office. Uh the site is surrounded by the 134 freeway to the north. Warner Brothers Studios to the south, New York Film Academy, and residentially zoned property to the east, and commercial and office uses along with residentially zoned property to the west. Next slide, please. The site is zoned media district commercial or MDC2 and has a media district commercial general plan designation. Next slide. So, what's being requested here? The gym use is allowed by right on the subject site. However, a conditional use permit is required because the 5:00 a.m. weekday opening time falls within the city's late night business hours as defined as midnight to 6:00 a.m. and the site is within 150 ft of residentially zoned property pursu pursuant to BMC section 10-1-1151 which triggers the need for a conditional use permit. The commission is not being asked to approve the gym use itself, but rather to consider a

1-hour earlier weekday start time, allowing the facility to open at 5:00 a.m. And this request is typical for fitness facilities seeking to accommodate patrons who'd like to work out early. Next slide. Equinox is a premium fitness facility as evidenced by the following renderings. offering strength and cardio areas, group fitness studios, spa services, a retail space, juice bar, and related amenities. The facility is expected to employ approximately 100 to 120 staff members, which includes 60 to 70 full-time employees and 40 to 50 part-time employees. The applicant has invoked AB2097, a California state law that eliminates minimum parking requirements for developments within a half mile of public transit. However, the site was built with 1,160 parking spaces uh that serves the property and parking is not expected to be an issue and this was also vetted by our transportation department. Um so that's it. Operations will occur entirely within the enclosed premises with access limited to members and their guests. There are no outdoor fitness activities, no outdoor speakers, and no amplified outdoor sound as part of this project or this request. Um the these are photos of the interior tenant space. The applicant has already received building permits and are in the process of of completing the tenant improvements. These photos are from a site visit that staff conducted on April 2nd, 2026. The applicant plans to be open by midsummer. Next slide. Here you'll see the plans for the first floor reflecting some of the services I had mentioned. The first floor includes staff offices, reception, a lounge, cardio and strength rooms, a juice bar, and retail shop. Next slide. And here you'll see the second floor.

It's uh limited to group fitness studios, locker rooms, spa, and yoga studio. Next slide. The public was notified in accordance with the Burbank Municipal Code. This includes the required newspaper notice, public noticing of all occupants and owners within 1,000 ft of the project site, plus property owners from Mariposa Street to Clyborn south of the Ventura Freeway because the project falls within the media district's specific plan area. And although one notice was required to be posted on the property, the applicant did provide two notices, one along Riverside Drive and one along South Avon to ensure that the proper the the public was aware of the project. Um the project was also posted to the city's website and to date one comment was um uh a phone call um was received in favor of the project that was received today. Um next slide. Based on staff's assessment, this project qualifies for a categorical exemption under SQA under section 15301 because approval pertains solely to extending the gym's operating hours. Next slide. Staff has made all the required findings, including that the project is consistent with the goals and policies of the Burbank 2035 general plan, the city's zoning regulations, and that it meets the conditional use permit findings. Next slide. Therefore, staff recommends that the planning commission adopt the conditional use permit for project number 26-26-00001453 subject to the conditions of approval and the associated environmental determination. This concludes staff's presentation and staff is available for any questions the commission may have. Thank you.

Thank you so much. Great. I will now invite the applicant or their representative to address the planning commission. You will have a maximum time of 15 minutes to make your presentation.

Good evening. My name is Jonathan Loner with Burns and Buchard Planning and Entitlements representing Douglas EMTT, the owner of the property. I also have representatives of Equinox here should you have any questions about the operation of the facility. Uh, in keeping with your previous presenters, I do not have a presentation. Um, however, I do want to thank staff and the department. They've put a lot of diligence into this work. Um, we really appreciate it. Uh, and the level of detail they asked out of us as applicants, um, really showed in their staff report. Uh, I do want to reiterate one item, um, that staff already identified, but the uses by right, we are hoping to open not just in midsummer, but maybe within the next four to six weeks should construction go uh, as as identified. Um, and the request is just for that 5:00 am to 6:00 a.m. time slot. Otherwise, we are complying with the rules and regs of the zone. Additionally, just as a clarification, no outdoor activities are included within this request. Specifically, no equipment, no seating, no active operational uses or anything else within that terrace. So, I just wanted to make sure that was clear to the commissioners. Um, thank you for your time and again, thank you to staff and the department. Thank you very much. We will now open the meeting to hear from any persons who wish to speak on this matter. Each person may address the planning commission for a maximum time of 3 minutes. For members of the public who wish to comment in person, please present a completed speaker card to planning staff if you wish to speak. For members of the public that wish to comment by telephone, please call 818-238-3335 to address the planning commission. Callers will be placed in a queue until all inerson comments have been received. The phone lines are now open. Please bear with us as it may take a couple of minutes for the first callers to get through the line. For callers, please remember to lower the volume on your TV or computer and take your phone off speaker when you deliver public comment.

Madame clerk, do we have any speakers here tonight or callers on the line for public comment? Uh, you have two speaker cards and no callers. Thank you. Uh, the first comment is Jonathan Loner. You just heard. Okay. You just Yeah. I just want to make sure. Uh the next card is Kevin M. Carvey McCartney. McCartney. I am so sorry, sir. I'm sorry. It's my handwriting.

My fingers can be as dyslexic as my brain. So about that.

Uh thank you very much for listening. I appreciate this. I appreciate Equinox for being here. Uh, I'm a resident on California Street, which is right next to this, and I have a couple concerns that I haven't been able to address or contact anybody yet to get the questions. Some of the answers got answered tonight, and that's no outdoor uh uh speakers on that patio uh with the where they're going to be because if they're going to be there at 5:00 a.m., I was concerned that if there's somebody out there hustling people to go faster and harder, that's I'm going to hear that. Um the listen it's a very unique street this street California street next to a major motion picture studio a major tour center and a uh a lot of filming on on in a neighborhood all good good and good uh Borne Brothers has been an excellent neighbor for many many years I've been on that street for a long time now and I think that um what I really enjoy is the the neighborhood quality we have there a lot of good neighbors um My concerns are not necessarily with Equinox except except for that speaker issue which has been taken care of. Um, as much as a lot of people that are coming into the Warner Brothers uh tour and uh and from everything else, they're from outside the city, from outside the state. They're driving here. They're looking at they're unfamiliar with the neighborhood. They don't know it's horse property. They don't know that there's horses coming up and down the street sometimes. and they're not familiar with it. So, my recommendation is to put uh a greater signage at the end of at the beginning of the street or at the beginning uh of the street uh next to the uh alley to say residential uh neighborhood horse property. So, that doesn't have to be dramatic, doesn't have to be anything big, but something to let people know that when they're coming there, they're this is a chance

to not have them come down the street. We often get people especially during the summer of coming down the street looking for better parking. Uh and so that's the concern. The other question concern is on the parking. I was just asked uh Equinox is is parking included in the membership. Uh because I know that I there's two two third and fourth floor down is is parking a lot of parking. But is it included in the membership or are people going to be looking like sometimes they do with the tour they want to look and they find street parking. So that's a concern. That's a question if if I could get that answered. U but honestly I really like the discussion here today. I thought it was really uh well done. I think again my daughter's a member of Equinox. She loves it. Uh I I just I'm very very concerned about the issues that we haven't addressed because we can't see them. Okay. So that's all. Thank you so much.

Thank you very much. Would the representative of the community development department like to make any further comments? Um I'd just like to add that there are there is um Oh, thank you. um that there is a subterranean parking garage with the 1,160 spaces that I had mentioned and 200 um of those spaces are allocated for Equinox um patrons and 40 40 so 240 40 of those are allocated for staff. That's all.

Thank you. Does the applicant or their representative wish to make any further comments? You'll have a maximum time of 10 minutes. Jonathan Loner from Burns and Buchard. Um I'll address the um community members two items. Um one is with regard to parking. Equinox does provide free parking for their users for 2 and a half hours while they're at the gym. So parking is provided for those visitors. And I believe staff identified the amount of parking within the parking structure that is allocated. Um, with regard to the equin uses, it's not directly related to this CUP, but as a representative of the landlord, I'm happy to continue to talk with the community member outside of the CUP process itself and see how we can probably add some additional signage in coordination with the city um with regard to those ecquin uses, whether it's on private property or off private property. We're happy to have that discussion. I don't know that there's a nexus with the one hour of the equinox, but as a good neighbor, we're happy to continue to have that conversation.

Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Does the commission have any questions for staff or the applicant? Commissioner Mendes, I also noticed the the horse crossing. It's a very small sign. If I wouldn't have walked as much as I did, I wouldn't. And my my other question is um the ingress, what are the entrances to the parking structure? Is it on California and Avon or just Avon? That's a great question. I don't remember off the top of my head, but I'm happy to uh look into that and get back to Riverside. Okay. Only Riverside.

Okay. Okay, if we can uh uh commissioner, if you don't maybe we can have the applicant just come and speak it into the record on the microphone. We would appreciate that. Thank you. It's a hearing for it's a hearing for a gym. We're all getting our exercise in. Well, you are, not us. I need the exercise. Jonathan Loner from Burns and Bashard. Yes. The 3400 Riverside building has entrances and exits on Riverside to the north and Avon to the west. Should I stay up? Um, do any commissioners have any questions for the applicant and or staff? No, I have no questions either. Um,

Madam Chair, can I just clarify u actually the applicant uh I was impressed. He he used the word nexus and so I I want to give him kudos for that. But I also want to clarify and uh Julie noted that there may be a need for additional signage but it's not there's not a nexus or in other words a direct relationship between the request and the signage. However, duly noted uh by uh the comment that we received that we will follow up with our traffic engineering staff and our transportation planning staff to look at signage as you come into that area uh to see what can be done to make it a lot clearer. Um but um yeah, I just wanted to make sure uh I didn't want us to get into a situation where we're trying to impose that as a condition and it's not in alignment. So, but just so that the uh public's also aware of that nuanced nature.

Thank you for that. Um, all right. Seeing no further questions, I now declare the public hearing close and the planning commission will now deliberate. What is the planning commission's pleasure? Chair, I'd like to propose that we extend tonight's meeting because it is exactly 8:00. Okay. Um, I I think we can finish this item though. Um, and then we can discuss the I I don't want to I don't want to make staff or the applicant come back when we're halfway through a hearing. So, yes, but

members of the planning commission that that actually uh I laugh because it seems like someone did read the, you know, the policies and got book. There is a a council expectation that uh at the two-hour mark that the chair uh note that and ask staff for an estimate for how long the remainder of the items will take. And if it's the pleasure of the commission, you can continue or you could ask for those items to be moved. Okay. It used to be 10:45 back in the day for planning commission a long time ago. Um, I'm comfortable with extending at least for this item and then we can have a discussion on the next item. Okay. Okay. Staff, you're good with All right. Continuing this side.

Of course, chair. Whatever this Whatever the Whatever the commission wants. Yes, we will do. Maybe somebody has to go take a run. I don't know. Um, all right. What is the planning commission's pleasure for deliberation? I'd be happy to move to approve the uh the application. All right. I will make a motion to approve project number 26001453, a request for a conditional use permit to allow a permitted gym to operate during the city's late night business hours at 3,400 West Riverside Drive, Sweet 150. Thank you. Do we have a motion? I second.

All right, we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? No. All right, Madame Clerk, may we have a roll call, please? Chair Wick, yes. Commissioner Van Gorder, yes. Commissioner Bennett, yes. Commissioner Mendes, yes. Motion passes. Thank you. All right. Thank you so much and welcome to Burbank. All right. Since it is 802, um staff, we have one more item. Um I know that it's a providing feedback. I don't know if you want to continue it. If you

I would request uh of the commission if we could consider the item. I don't think it will take more than an hour. It's really up to you on your comments, but we can get the presentation in. uh we have it's uh part of the obligation is uh of the approval of the civic center library project. One of the conditions is that they uh would bring forth to the commission uh the proposed design of the project and get your input. So if we can do that, it would actually help uh move the project forward and allow the uh our colleagues in library services and their project managers to move the project forward since there are some they're seeking certain funding requirements. Uh, and they're also looking at uh getting to the point of being able to solicit proposals for a contractor and architect to develop the project. So, um, we don't I don't usually uh would request this of you, but if if we could do that, we had them waiting here uh diligently. As much as they probably got more planning um experience tonight than than anybody could have considered, if we could hear them out, I'd really appreciate if you guys can uh consider that. I think we'll be done within the hour.

Okay. I am fine with that, but I want to ask my fellow commissioners because I know that some have kids at home and I just I'm good to continue, but I would like like a fivem minute break. Okay. Commissioner Bennett. Yeah, it's great. I'm okay as well. Okay. Yeah, we can take a five minute break. Yeah. So, we'll uh we'll going to step down for five minutes and we'll be back. Okay. Thank you. Okay.

All right, we're back. Now is the time for reports from city staff. There is one report to the commission. Staff is requesting the planning commission provide comments of the preliminary design of the new central library civic center project bound by North Glenn Oaks Boulevard East Orange Grove Avenue North 3rd Street and East of Avenue on a sightzoned planned development PD20002-2 with a general plan designation land use designation of institutional for development review project number 26-0000745 Five. Before we begin, do any planning commissioner members have any legal, financial, or any other conflict of interest relating to this hearing?

Nope. No. No. No. No. I'm hearing four nos. Have any planning commissioner any planning commission members had any communications including written or oral with any person regarding this project? No. No. No. No. Okay. Uh, will the representative of the community development department please introduce yourself and summarize the matter for us? Thank you. Can I get the presentation on the screen?

Good evening, Chairwick, members of the planning commission. My name is David Kim, senior planner with the community development department planning division. With me tonight also our staff from the library and civic center project consultant management team Mocha services who will be presenting to the commission uh tonight in a few minutes about the conceptual design for the project. Next slide for this presentation and discussion staff would like to accomplish three objectives. First is to provide a brief update on on the project background and status for the library and civic center project. Uh second staff will have Mocha services provide a brief presentation of the project and its conceptual design. And finally, staff is requesting the commission to provide comments on the project's conceptual design to both the planning staff and the project management team as they take into consideration the commission's feedback on the conceptual design when drafting the more specific design details of the project plans. Next slide. So, plan development 2000 D 2-2 was approved in 2003 for a new civic center master plan in the Bourbing down in in the Bourbon's downtown civic center area. The project area's boundaries included North Third Street, East Olive Avenue, North Glennox Boulevard, and East Orange Grove Avenue. The original project back in 2003 included the approval of community service building, uh a new central library, a a parking structure uh within the project boundaries, and also new uh and a new administrative city office service uh office building at the souththeast corner of Third in Orange Grove next to Bourbick City Hall. The plan development development agreement and development review for the project was approved with a condition approval that the design for the new

library administrative service building and the parking structures be processed separately through a development review. The plan development 2002-2 with DR202-42 approved the design review for the new community services building and in the concept of the project and the community service building was was the only one that was built um in 2008. In Feb February 2026, a development review application project number 26-0000745 was submitted to the city for the new library and civic center um uh project which included the new civic uh center and library building, open space, public plaza, and the parking structure. The application included several proposed design changes from the original approval. This included proposing an above grade parking structure instead of a parking structure with subterranean levels. And in addition, uh the revised project also u proposed to not construct a separate administrative service building at the southeast corner of North Third Street and or East Orange Grove Avenue. Instead, the new city office proposal will be combined with the uh new uh city library uh building on the south uh west corner of East Olive and North Gloon Boulevard on the project site. City staff reviewed the revised project of the approved uh revised project of the approved civic center master plan project and the community development director on April 23rd approved the development review project subject to conditions of approval that were also consistent with the conditions of approval of the original project. Next slide.

One of the conditions for the project was to have staff to present to the planning commission on the design of the new buildings. Specifically, the planning commission will comment comment on the design elements related to architecture, color, materials, signage, uh landscaping, open space, public plaza areas. The design review approved the conceptual building site layout and the envelope with the condition that the project would meet specific project requirements and city development standards and regulations. The planning commission's feedback on the project is important because it will give the project consultant management team a specific feedback to consider when they are ready to prepare with their team to lay out more details specific designs as the project continues to progress along. Furthermore, staff will also bring an update to the planning commission on the project's progress to the to the commission at a future date. Um, next slide. I'll now um turn it to uh Minan who is with the um project management team.

Thank you, David. Um good evening u chairman, chairwoman and uh commission members. Um it's my pleasure today to share some updates on the conceptual preliminary concept for this project. Um next slide please. As David mentioned, the civic center and library project is a phase two development of the civic block. Next, there are three major project components. um a 310 stores parking structure, a 97,500 square feet um building uh with a maximum u building envelope and up to 119,000 square ft. Within the building, uh there are two major component functions, a library and the city offices. Lastly, an open space u 43,000 square feet. Next, early in the process, the city leadership have identified four guiding principles. Next, first and foremost, the community. The project really uh should be community serving and should reflects the identity of city of Burbank. And since then the project team and has um carried out extensive community engagement activities to gather feedbacks and input. Next, a generational project uh requires a flexible inbuilding infrastructure that can adapt to future needs and technology. Next. And a world-class library needs to be beautiful um to provide quality architecture, space and experience both inside and outside. La uh next

uh last but not the least safety is a very fundamental and component of uh welcome in civic experience through a clear sight line uh inside library and landscape buffer um to safeguard the open space and the proposed site planning is uh really um works with a broader context of civic center with a plaza anchoring the corner of Third Street and Olive and really star connects all the civic surrounding civic buildings. The city hall, CSB, courthouse and new future library with a parking structure stay low and tucked at corner of um Glen um Glenn Oak and Orange Grove. Next, here's a site planning showing um different program occupying each quadrant of the site. Um a cafe element is strate strategically um positioned in the center of the site. And here's a view looking alongside of CSB building looking down on the cafe. it really start bringing the energy um and pedestrian to draw into the site. Next, the pil between the future library and parking structure is really important. Um the design incorporate um active program on the ground floor of the garage really trying to elevate the pedestrian experience. Next um zooming into the building. The program is really organized around the entry and lobby highlighted in yellow here with the library massing um connects to the open space and city office and share program fronting the Glen Oak frontage.

Next here there is a significant u elevation change along Olive Street. And here's a S section cutting through that. And you notice that the the massing really start cascading down from fourstory along Glenn Oak to threetory with the rooftop terrace that really start to speak to the terrace open space all the way down to the third street. Next, on the ground floor, uh the lobby really um connects the pedestrian, you know, arrive at Olive and people park in the parking structure. There is a dedicated front door for the library facing the open space as well. Next, the lobby experience really important with light field atrium and uh with a welcoming gallery space really to and serve as a urban living room for the users and patronons to come in. Here are some um ideas and concepts of that what that grand stair could look like. Next. And public art is also a very um comp in important component both inside and outside of the building. And transparency is really important um for the concept of the design with a low shelf height. Create clear sight line for safety. Also utilize this indoor outdoor connection opportunities. on on the on Glen on the ground floor there is a large flexible auditorium plan to accommodate both an library programs and a lot of uh community events. Yeah. On second floor of the building on the library side is children's area. On the

opposite side is a extra meeting space both for the city and the public to use. The children's area are area is really imagined as colorful, fun, and has a safe um play area on top of the cafe volume. Next, and the tin will also um get a dedicated space in this library to study, gather and play on the third floor. On the library side is a library administration functions and special programs. On the Glen Oak side is the first level of the city office. Next, the special program includes social services and co-working space, maker space, and recording studios, which really u speaks true to what Burbank is about. Next, the top floor of the building and have amenity space really supports rooftop terrace. um the um facing the open space and facing Glenn Oak is the second floor of the city office function. The rooftop amenity encourage indoor outdoor connections and also you and double duty the catering kitchen as a teaching kitchen opportunity to support uh the library program that the community really um inspired to have. Here's a visual of the roof rooftop experience uh looking down from the deck all the way to this uh the city hall here and we believe it's really going to be a very popular and amazing rooftop venue for the city of Burbank. Next, the site strategy really trying to address the constraint of this topographic change 23 ft while also

embrace a guiding principle to provide maximum flexibility to support um all kinds of variety sides of events. Next. So the open space really terrace down to four different sized terraces based on um different program uses throughout the day. Next. So the first tier is a library deck really access an outdoor room for the library provide indoor outdoor connections uh to the library program. Next uh stepping down the farmers market function uh the farmers market tier is really you know trying to bring bring back the farmers farmers market um back to the plaza once projects complete also with a shade structure. It also supports uh other different type of events during the weekdays. The lawn and small event areas uh with a stage really supports small pop-up performance and movie nights and also simp just or just simply a place for the family to sit and have a picnic. Overall, the open space uh will work together with the architecture of the library to provide a connected experience throughout the site and that will truly make the civic center a destination for generations to come. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you very much. All right. The planning dis the planning commission will now discuss what is the planning commission's pleasure.

Anyone Commissioner Van Gorder?

Yeah, I I love the multi-generational approach. Um that that seems to be the guiding principle here. Um we also very recently I was a jurist on the uh um uh the Woodbury University's architecture like masters program finals and a lot of them addressed like there's not a lot of public space like wide open public space for um uh uh as like a center civic meeting point in our city outside of like the po at um uh in front of the movie theater and AMC uh uh and in front of city hall. Um and I really love that there's a specific um like a quarter of the total project appears to be exactly that, giving people open space that they can use for whatever that they need. And you know, as someone with a a someone with a a family, I I I can see bringing my children to this weekly. Um yeah, it's lovely.

Thanks. Teaching kitchen. Teaching kitchen. ation kitchen. That's That's awesome. Yeah, I agree with you. The recording, Commissioner Mendes. Um I think it's great. Okay, Commissioner Bennett.

I just wanted to say that while I agree that it's very beautiful, but I did want to say for the record that I'm disappointed, and this has been said before, so but I'll say it again, disappointed that we traded out space for people for space for cars in this project. I understand that ship has sailed, but your pictures were all very beautiful of people enjoying the area and then we allocate 25% of the project space to warehouse cars where people can't really be and I think that's unfortunate. So, but otherwise it's great and I appreciate it. I can appreciate as a regional attraction though um that they'll need a lot of facilities um because we have the the Orange Grove parking structure. How many do you mind how many spaces are on the the Orange Grove parking structure?

Um yeah, we don't have the number right off the top of our head. In general has a lot of different parking structures, a lot of different spaces. So

be a long walk to go from the yard house to the the proposed library that I mean also given that we're talking about um the programming being discussed like a teaching kitchen like I would want to bring my 8-year-old hopefully she'll be uh I'm assuming this is going to be done next year so I'm saying that she's 8 years old uh at this point um you know parking next door and then walking her up but also recording studio studios. You know, music equipment um is heavy. As a musician, I can attest to uh just how much of a burden it would be to move equipment um from the Orange Grove parking structure to the library here. I mean, we've got at present like half of that available space um as it's used right now. The existing uses is like half parking. Um, so I I I think that it's a a a worthy uh tradeoff here. If we're getting four stories of a multi- multi-use um you know, it's not just a library, it's not just city offices, it's a like a maker space, a teaching kitchen. There's a lot of different uh um dedicated spaces that I'm anticipating in here. And I I am excited about all that. I will say I'm a little confused and maybe it's just a commentary. We've got a Christmas tree in Santa Claus, but these people are wearing t-shirts. Like, is that just

Do you know how hot it is here in December? Yeah, I'm We've had rainy Christmases. We've had 80° Christmases. 23 years in Burbank. I can attest to that. Given climate change, I'm hoping this project will be completed before t-shirts are expected at Christmas time. Okay. Um any further comments? I don't want to cut you off.

Um large flexible auditorium. Um how how big uh if you had to uh to guess at the number of seats uh in a theater? I mean would it be comparable to the auditorium that Glendel has at their library? Would it be comparable to this room? It's going to be one seat bigger than Glendel's auditorium. Nice. I love that. I think currently about half the population currently planned for a flexible seating of 200. Thank you. Thank you. That's it. I mean, probably not, but Okay. Well,

if you have you something will come to mind, I'm sure. I don't want to to cut you off. Um

Okay. I uh first of all, thank you. Thank you to staff for the project. I know this has been a long time coming. Um, I admit when I first saw this project, I was one of those, we don't need a new library. We don't need to replace the central library. I'm sure that there's comments on record that I've said that in the past. Um, I will say though after attending one of the the workshops that and having a tour of the central library that I I understand now this is a much needed updated facility because just given the community, given the emphasis we have on third spaces, the the movement to have a very active downtown, I think this is very much well needed. Um, I understand uh Commissioner Bennett's concerns about the parking. I I will say that I definitely echo what Commissioner Van Gorder said. I if nothing else just I I go to the farmers market almost every weekend and it's parking is tight at the farmers market now and a lot of people use the existing parking and it's it's still a lot and I can't imagine as you said people carrying farmers market bags heavy bags all the way to orange groves so yes housing is important we have reena numbers um I'm happy that we have the parking um in a perfect world I mean I would love to see the design kind of pay homage to the current central library. Um, and you know, in a perfect world, I'd just like to throw it out there. I'd like to see that building reused, but I don't know how exa how how realistic that is, but it's a really cool example of mid-century architecture. Um, the only thing I would echo on the project is maybe staff can speak to this. I know this is getting a little technical, but the current central library is not open on Sundays and I would love it I would love this

new plaza to be open on Sundays as well. It will be I'm getting a nod. Okay, good. Because yeah. Um I think that's it for me. I'm trying to be cautious of the hour and not drone on. Any other discussion? Nothing. All right. Well, um, this was a report item, so I'm sure that library staff has heard our comments and everybody has, and so I think that was a robust discussion. Do we have an idea of timelines?

Yes. Um the construction was anticipated to um start summer 2027 and the project's anticipated to finish spring 2029. Thank you. Um real quick, I know we have our library services director here. Did you want to say anything tonight? Not to put you on the

Thank you, Eric Lashley, library services director. Um, no, I just wanted to say that um I appreciate the comments tonight. Uh, we're building a worldclass library and I think you saw that with the different programming that we're doing. I appreciate the comments about parking and things like that. So, again, we take it to heart. We'll come back. Um, again, the design has not been um determined in ter besides the size of the the facility, but uh we're we just did the RFQ for a progressive design build team today. It was released at 5:00 today. And again, part of that is it's a um you know, the whoever we hire for the progressive design build team, it starts all over again and like their ideas on how it's going to look. Will it have, you know, a mid-century modern look or a, you know, a look to matches something to the city hall? That hasn't been determined yet. Just the size and the budget and scope of work like that has been determined, but the design has not been determined yet, but we're looking forward to that. Be fun.

And Eric, can you clarify uh RFQ? Uh, yes. A request for qualifications for the progressive design build team. I mean, if you're not familiar with progressive design build, that's where we have a contract with the architect and the construction company together. And the progressive part is we as the owners are working in tandem with the design as it goes along. The idea is to make it more affordable and the the project go really fast. And that's what uh men pointed out that we hope to break ground next summer uh and then uh build it within 18 months.

Will there be any more community workshops down the line for members of the public that if they're interested in getting involved, sharing their opinions? Yeah, once again we uh hire and do a contract for the progressive design build team. The design phase starts all over again. the real design starts at that point and we will have community engagement efforts at that time. Again, we're really proud of the number of uh community engagement uh we did just to get to this point. I think that it shows that we haven't had, you know, people who were upset about the project. For the most part, everybody's very excited about the project. It's a long time in coming.

Thank you so much. I I'll say that I the workshop I attended was very well attended. So that's great to see. Good. I appreciate you taking the tour. I think um you know that was one of my ideas like people have to see why a 1963 building does not meet a 2026 modern library anymore. But you don't know that until you see it. Yes, definitely. I encourage members of the public to take a tour. Definitely. Right.

Sure. I would say just um uh to Eric's point u that once they've further developed with the contractors and the design team um and they go and get ready to submit for plan check we'll come back with a report to you all so you'll be able to see between the volume and kind of placement of things and exactly the greater detail we want to make sure we report back to you on that part of it. Okay. Will it be something similar to what the airport did where there were three different concepts or is we won't like have a contest? Okay. I'm just curious.

But what I would say about the airport that's similar is they did use the progressive design build uh method and you see how that has gone well and they're going to open you know on time it looks like. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Anything further? All right, we'll move on to um I'm assuming staff we we're finishing off the meeting before the uh we're going to officially note and file the report.

Okay, we're going to officially note and file the report and um we'll all right, moving on to the approval of the minutes from March 9th, 2026 planning commission meeting. Are there any questions, comments, and or motion? I'll motion to approve. All right, we have a motion to approve. We have a second. Um, Madame City Clerk, may we have a role? Chairwick? Yes. Commissioner Van Gordon? Yes. Commissioner Bennett? Yes. Commissioner Mendes? Yes. Uh, minutes are approved.

Thank you. And I just wanted to say that that was me seconding. I kind of rolled it into one, so I apologize. All right. Um, now is the time for introduction of additional agenda items. Planning Commission members may introduce new items for discussion, but no action may be taken to except to place the item on a future agenda. Do members of the commission have any items to introduce? No. Seeing none, now is the time for city planner comments? Are there any comments from the city planner? There

are none. Seeing none, we will now adjourn to the planning commission meeting on Monday, June 8th, 2026 at 6 p.m. This meeting will be held in person in the city council chambers at 275 East Olive Avenue. The public is invited to attend the meeting in person or to view the meeting online or on television. The public will be able to provide public comment in the following three ways. In person at the appropriate time during the meeting, by leaving an e comment on the city webpage, www.burbankca.gov/events, /e comments by calling in directly to the pun commission at 818-238-3335. Thank you all for your participation and have a good night.