Select Board - Regular Meeting

Thank you.

We have the non-public and public meeting minutes of July 2nd.

I'll make a motion to approve the public and non-public meeting minutes of July 2nd, 2026.

Second. Okay, motion and second. Any discussion on the minutes, questions, comments? All right. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Those opposed? Extensions, that's 5-0. All right.

Consent agenda. Make a motion to approve the consent agenda for July 16th, 2026. Accounts payable, payment, manifest dated July 9th, 2026. Accounts payable, ACH manifest, WEX. July 9th, 2026. Accounts payable payment manifest dated July 16th, 2026. Accounts payable ACH manifest Harper's dated July 16th, 2026. Payroll payment manifest dated July 16th, 2026. Appointment of Stephen visitors to the sustainability committee for a three year term through March 14th, 2029. Quarter three revised warrant, water in the amount of $154,628.98. Sewer in the amount of $165,885.05. Seasonal one warrant, water in the amount of $23,416.85. Sewer in the amount of $788.04. 10 to cut number 26-059-04-T. For map lot number 218-007-001. 218-007-002 218-007-003 and 218-007-004 all right is there a second second by don uh any singular items questions or comments on them

I just wanted to claim the revised warrant. There was a correction that had to be made, so it was revised today, and that's why we're asking you to vote on it again with the new numbers. And then the seasonal one warrant is just the normal seasonal warrant.

All right. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Those opposed, abstentions? That's 5-0. All right. Here's your Department of Transportation.

Does it show?

Yeah. Yeah, the obligatory, yeah.

I do have a presentation. I don't know if you have that here or I can plug it in.

Okay.

So welcome. Thank you.

All right, there it is. Well, thank you for allowing me some time in your meeting tonight. I'm here to talk about a upcoming New Hampshire DOT project. Do I go to the next slide?

Can you just announce your name for the minutes and stuff?

It's on the next slide. My name is John Stockton. I'm a bridge engineer with the New Hampshire Department of Transportation. My contact information is on the screen and I'll show this again at the end of the presentation. The next slide shows the mission and vision statement the New Hampshire Department of Transportation managing and maintaining the transportation network throughout New Hampshire. The next slide shows the project we're here to talk about. It is maintenance and preservation work on the bridge carrying New Hampshire Route 104 over the Pemmingen-Wasset River between the towns of Bristol and New Hampton. The next slide zooms in a little bit closer so you can see where it is in relation to the boat ramp and the Hampton Fire Department. Existing bridge is three spans. It was built in 1987. It's 405 feet long, 46 1⁄2 feet wide, and comprised of steel girders and a concrete bridge deck. The abutments and piers are also made out of concrete. The next slide will show the roadway, which is 44 feet wide. It has a 12-foot lane and a 2-foot shoulder in each direction. This section of Route 104 has a speed limit of 40 miles an hour and it carries about 8,200 cars per day.

It's do they do a 40 mile per hour? No.

Well, okay. And you'll notice that the sign said posted speed limit. The New Hampshire Department of Transportation has an investment strategy for all of their assets. And as far as the bridges go, we tend to put work into them on about a 20-year cycle where we do maintenance and preservation similar to the way you change the oil in your car or change your roof before it starts leaking. The goal is to keep our good bridges in good condition and our fair bridges in fair condition and delay the deterioration into a poor condition bridge that we have to do more invasive and substantial renovations. So the last work on this bridge was done about 20 years ago and it's a very similar project then to what we are proposing now. So there are a lot of words on the slides, but this talks about the fact that this project is federally funded, which means that we must comply with the National Environmental Policy Act, which requires us to investigate the natural and cultural and social impacts of all of our projects and to reduce and avoid and minimize those impacts as much as possible. Part of that environmental and cultural resource is historic concerns. The National Historic Preservation Act provides guidelines on how to research those impacts that our projects have. It provides a way for interested parties like historical societies or select boards to become consulting members. to the project. This project in particular has not identified any impacts to historic resources, buildings, or archaeological sites. And then the last slide with all the words on it notes that because the bridge is less than 50 years old, it's not eligible for the National Register of Historic Places. and the work is contained to the bridge itself so nothing that we are doing would extend off to impact any potential um historic or cultural or archaeological sites so the next slide is what is the proposed work we will be removing the pavement and waterproofing membrane that's on top of the concrete bridge deck When that is cleared, we will patch it and fix any deterioration we find in the bridge deck for deck patching. At that time, we'll also replace the expansion joints, one at each end. When that's done, we will put new waterproofing membrane back on top of the concrete and repave the bridge. So we plan to do that in two traffic phases. I have this listed as phase one. I'm going to, after I go through the rest of the presentation, I'll talk more about this. But the first phase we've identified here is alternating one-way traffic on a single lane. Judging by the expressions and the faces, I know what you guys went through the last two weeks on 104. But that's why I want to come back to this. But I wanted to do the same presentation that I did in the town of New Hampton. So the first phase here, again, alternating one-way traffic, we think that's going to be about two months while we do the work on the rest of it. Go to the next slide. We switch traffic over to a two-way configuration and do the remaining work on the first part. The next two slides show that exact same traffic phasing in a plan view looking down. The shaded red area is the work zone. so you would be able to be driving in the white. So that would be what I call phase one, the north side of the bridge. And phase two flips it over so where you can see the two-way traffic on the second, on the southern half of the second phase. And then after that's done, the last phase, the last one shows that we've restored the traffic to what it is right now. So I want to cover a couple more things and then I want to come back to this, but the, Project in general, the next slide will show that we don't have any impacts to right-of-way, environmental, endangered species, cultural, historic wetlands, anything like that. And the project schedule is the next slide. We're having these meetings now. We plan to advertise in August with construction next summer in 2027 with an estimated cost of $1.7 million. So I want to go back to the traffic phasing. The one right before this shows that one right there. Based on comments we got from the town of New Hampton and talking to the New Hampshire DOT personnel that was out here on your paving project, that paved four miles from about the bridge this way. Apparently, the first Friday they were out there, everybody noticed them. That was a significant backup towards I-93. That was a backup in both directions, but we had a lot more storage this way. What had happened was they were paving the eastbound shoulder, going eastbound, so that'd be the southern part of the road. When they got to the end of the paving, they turned all the equipment around. all the pavers, all the different things. So what you had was you had all that equipment plus the trucks full of asphalt doing a 19-point turn in the roadway. I think they did it on top of the bridge, judging by the tire tracks that I saw driving in here. And then they got everything set up and started paving the eastbound lane heading west towards Bristol. When they were doing that paving, they had their first initial one phase of traffic or one single lane of traffic was about two miles long, which allowed a lot of traffic to back up. One thing I will point out is that our phase of alternating one-way traffic in a single lane is about 800 feet long. So it's significantly shorter. A couple other challenges they had was the instructions of the flaggers. They had manual soil stop flaggers. They, over the course of time, the DOT personnel out there did two things. They shortened the amount of, the length of road that was restricted to a single lane. And they also changed the instructions to the flaggers to try to let more cars through more often. to make like a conveyor belt through there. And that seemed to help a lot. One of the other things that was plaguing them was it was pretty hot, especially last week, and they couldn't allow traffic on the pavement until the pavement cooled down to a certain point. So all of those things work together to give you a traffic nightmare. I think it's, I mean, it looks like they're done paving. They're just going to have to strike now. I don't know much about that project. I'm the bridge guy and that's pavement. But based on what we got from the town of New Hampton and those experiences, what we're suggesting or what we're thinking is that if we do this phase first, the two-way traffic early, that would be the first part of the summer. So it will maintain two-way traffic if we end up impacting, we'll probably have to start before Newfound High School is out for the year, which also means it's before bike week. But we think that based on all of this, I think two lanes of traffic earlier this summer and a single lane pushed late in the summer will improve everything.

What's the total duration? Again, because you said two, it was like two months for phase one.

Right, the whole project will be about, it's a full summer construction season. So June to September, October. So generally about four months. Four to six months. I would say six because you'll all be upset if I say four. I think five just to give a buffer, but yeah, that's fine. So it's, again, one of the things that we are unable to control is how fast the contractor works, how many hours a day they work, and so forth. So what we were suggesting, again, if you go backwards through these slides, you would see this is phase one. And then that would be phase two, late in the summer. And that one more, showing the trough section of the bridge, and that becomes phase one. And the next one becomes phase two.

So I guess what I'm getting at is, okay, you said you would potentially do it when you found high schools in play. So you would do it in May, potentially?

We don't want to, we want to allow enough time to get this done. I think if we tried to wait until after the school gets out, I think the week before bike week. So I think if we wait after that, we would be pushing into the beginning of school year, and we want to make sure we're able, in case we find more damage, more deterioration.

The reason why I was specific about the phases is, okay, let's just say you did May and June. That means the 4th of July, we're at a one lane bridge.

Right.

No, I think. So all I'm getting at is I'm just trying to pick the key areas. So bike week is a major one where there's a lot of bikes, just the whole lakes area. And then for us, that timeframe around the 4th of July becomes a major thing to navigate. I'm not saying I know what the answer is, I'm saying.

And that's why I said he's switching. That was one of the main reasons because if we looked at the high school bike week, fourth of july and there was one other that i thought but um those things in the beginning of the summer during the two so fourth of july through the two-lane traffic configuration yeah then after that we have memorial day i mean well memorial day was potentially the fourth memorial day high school bike week and fourth of july when we have the one lane traffic we would have labor day and potentially the school starting again right So it seemed to me that there were less traffic impacts switching.

You're spot on. I just want to make sure that for the 4th, we've got two lanes.

And one of the things we can do in the contract documents is say that one lane traffic cannot be put in place until after 4th of July.

I just had a question too. So the other big problem I think for us is that there was a lot of changing on the start date on advertising, and then they started on the date they didn't say they were going to start with the paving project. Please don't do that.

Well, I mean, once we advertise it, we have very little control over it. We're advertising this on October 18th, and once that happens, We're not pressed for time on this because it wouldn't start happening. The work wouldn't start happening until the spring. And there's very little that the contractor has to order and get in place prior to that. It's just the two expansion joint assemblies. But as far as when they start and stop, we don't have a lot of control over that. This painting project that you experienced, This is one section of about four that are spread out in different towns, which makes it more complicated because if they hit problems in one area, they might jump over here before or after they said they would. One of the reasons I like the bridge projects is I've got 400 feet of bridge, and I don't really care what goes on.

When it goes down to one lane, can the traffic control devices be smart enough to adjust based on a lot of cars are over here waiting, and there's none over here, as opposed to just a timer?

They are set up right now at our, initially they would be set up with a timer with a detection device, same way you have on probably right downtown. These will be optical because we don't have loops. There will be three signals, one at each end of the bridge and one pointing into the boat ramp so those people wouldn't be stuck there forever.

They're smart enough to keep you from waiting when there's nobody coming for several minutes while they're

I don't know the ins and outs of that, but I would hope that they were, meaning that it would stay green until it detects a vehicle here, and then it would go through the cycle to turn it yellow and red so that they could go. We also have the ability to change the traffic timing during construction. So just like they adjusted the traffic control for your pavement, the contractor will have the ability and the DOT will be able to direct the contractor to adjust things to what you actually see in the field. So once the timing starts, you're not stuck with that. But if it is a smart, I know they have them. Again, I don't know enough about traffic signals to adequately answer your question. But there are some that are capable of doing exactly what you say in temporary signals.

Because I think we need that bridge more than Johansson does, so I think it would be a little more interested in keeping that flowing well. Right.

And again, I get it. I have to drive through these things too. So it's a bridge project, but I know and we all know that Nobody cares about the bridge, yeah, fix the concrete, but... Well, they don't care unless, you know, unless there's something really going on. But they care about the traffic, because that's what you all see. That's what you experience, you know, every day, everyone trying to drive I-93 and then back. So, we do have flexibility. The fire department that's here has mutual aid and, you know, like... I don't know where the fire department is in Bristol, but there's some in Bristol where they're closer. So they have preemption devices, so when they turn that corner, same way they do with all the other signals that'll work there. All right, there you go. So yeah.

Is it guaranteed one season? Yes, it's a one season, well. It's like Ashland, right? The Ashland Bridge is two years, two summers? Right, yeah. Is that longer? Is that a longer bridge?

That is a longer bridge and it is substantially more work than this. There are structural repairs to the bridge. So in another however many years when we have to replace this one, Ashton Bridgewater will look great. Because this will be tougher to do in 30 years when we replace the bridge. But this one, because the work is confined basically from the bridge deck up, It's much, much less work than what you see. And the length of that one-way signal and that project is about twice what this is. And they've got a lot of trucks. The trucks just line up. So you've got a lot of great examples of knowing how this will work. It's just that this is a much smaller area, smaller site, shorter length. The traffic backups are not anticipated to affect any of the other operations. There's a residential house up here and then there's a fire department. The backups that we, based on the traffic that we have, we don't think is even going to make it to that driveway.

There's never a perfect time to do that. It just isn't. Right. Yeah, it's all minimization. That's good. And the last one was done 20 years ago?

2005, yeah. That's great. I remember that .

Yeah, and one of the other comments was that, well, traffic's gotten a lot worse in 20 years. And the interesting thing about that is the stretch of what, when we look at traffic counts, we'd go back 10, 15 years, and they were close to what they are. It doesn't feel like it. I think it's people driving us now. But it feels like more traffic, but the numbers show that, you know, it's maybe slightly more, but not as dramatic. Not as dramatic. Not as it feels. So other than that, I will, I can put my contact information up. next to the last slide. And if there's any other questions or comments, I'd be happy to answer them. That one. And other than that, I thank you for your time.

Thank you. Thank you. That was good. Thank you. All right. All right.

The road looks nice now.

It does. Okay, show drive discussion. Mr. Smith, is it? Yes. Please join us up. Thank you, gentlemen. Thanks.

So Mr. Smith and Deb and I met probably about a week ago and talked about some ideas on the trees along Shore Drive.

You talked about trees and you didn't. I know. That's why I brought him here because I'll let him explain. Yes, so. Okay. Sorry, he disappeared. I hope I didn't kick him out.

So we brought Mr. Smith here to talk to the board first to see your thoughts on his ideas and then I've gotten some information, a little bit more information from the town's attorney on some of our thoughts that we talked about. Go ahead.

All right, good evening. So my name is Rick Smith. I am fortunate enough to have a home at 86 Shore Drive. Have had that for about 10 years. I've been coming to Newfound Lake since 1963. And at that point, I am one of 15 children. We were three cars deep. And we picked up my aunt and uncle that worked at New Hampton Prep and went to Wellington for day trips. It was, we remember, let's put it that way, I killed my parents. So today we have, out of the siblings that are still alive, about 80% of them still come here every summer. So when I bought the house it came with a dark from the marina and the dark unbeknownst to my research even that came at 17 feet and I had just purchased a 21 foot boat and I felt 17 was too small so I sold the dark not understanding And I think it's different today, but not understanding how hard it is to get a boring and or a dark in the town. So we spent many of the last 10 years, you know, putting it in and Wellington taking it out, the whole nine yards. always trying to think of what I could do. I've been sitting at Shore Drive, and my background is in construction, but I specialized in elaborate miniature golf courses. And I built them in tourist towns all throughout New England, even built one in Aruba at the time.

And before you ask, I have a similar question.

I did bring some pictures. I dug out from some album somewhere.

Do you remember the, sorry, do you remember the little one that used to be out by Willamette?

Yeah, but was it not Bullwinkle?

I never went there. I just remember driving by. We had a miniature golf ball. Yeah, we did. Straight across from Willamette.

It was right there, but it wasn't Bullwinkle. Bullwinkle's was like...

arcades right right yeah sorry no no no you would you would have probably been horrified

So as I've been sitting there and listening to the Facebook page, the Bristol page, the Newfound page, the dark and mooring issue is strong and also especially this spring with the budgets that you guys are facing, ladies and guys are facing, and the town is facing. So I've looked out at the water and I've looked at the trees that are you know, dying. And when you have 15, I happen to have an arborist in the family who came and was the tree doctor for Phillips Andover because their trees were dying. So his whole background is in bringing trees back to life. He is retired at this point, but he certainly would be more than willing to be the consultant that outlined what you should do and how to do it and putting together the scope of it. Additionally, the gentleman who built the miniature golf courses I first met at Wintersquam in 1989, He was a 19-year-old kid, and I referred to him at the time as the Larry Bird of excavation. And the kid has since then built seven or eight of these facilities with me. He's went off on his own and been incredibly successful. And what he does, he's a one-man show that does all his work. He actually does a lot of work at Hampton Beach. He's done rebuilding all the entranceways. for the, I guess it would be the, I don't know which agency actually controls the beach. There's a lot of them down there. State Park, I think. Yeah, it's the State Park, Department of Natural Resources. Yeah. Yes, yeah. So he's been doing that. He's been regrading the beach every spring. He grades a lot of the Class 5 and Class 6 roads up in this area. I tell you that because he's, to me, one of the best in building walls. That's why I brought the pictures, so you kind of get an idea of that. I look at the southern tip of Newfound Lake as the best place on the lake. I think a lot of people agree with me. I see car after car come and sit in prom pictures, wedding pictures, you know, everything. And I would hate to lose the trees. I watch the first car in every day that comes to the beach. They all sort out to try to get underneath some shade. And, you know, so they're using it. And meanwhile... The trees and certainly the power lines don't help you. There's a lot of challenges to it, and all of them need a serious pruning because it's just taking what little energy it has. So I looked at the water, and I looked at the trees, and I said, why can't you put in moorings and provide those moorings? I'm saying, and I don't know, this is probably a legal question that Christina's going to address in a minute. My thought was, you do a non-profit, I would sit on the board of it. I would coordinate the whole thing. I don't want money for it. I do want a mooring, but I'm willing to pay for the mooring, just like anybody else. I'm not asking for favors. I'm more of a win-win situation. You know, there are other things, you know, Christina said, how many morgues can you get? I don't know the answer to that. Looking at it based upon what's there in the ones from Shore Drive that are there, you probably got 12 or 13 more. A gentleman that met with us said there was a...

the mooring field can actually go 350 feet and deep so there is potential for more but victor came partly through so he joined us and he knew that rule really yeah yeah to be honest with you i have no idea there's definitely some things that have to be researched so i talked to the attorney today and one of the he didn't see any issues with doing additional moorings. The concern would be we don't know what the stipulations are on our court-ordered moorings already. So we don't know if there's anything in there. So we'd have to vet that first before we did anything. If we wanted, sorry.

No, go ahead.

If we wanted to use.

I'm going to get to you, but I have a couple questions.

If we wanted to use the money from the cost of the moorings, the permit applications, we would have to open either a charitable trust fund or an expendable trust. Charitable trust fund can be opened by a donation, for instance, if Mr. Smith wanted to do a donation, he could open a charitable trust for the purpose of just doing these things. Actually, I want to rephrase that. If we want to use the money from the mortgage, the only thing we can do is open an expendable trust through town meeting. If Mr. Smith wanted to do a fundraiser of some sort and accept donations, that could be a charitable trust that could accept those things, but for a specific purpose, agreement would have to be drawn up. But you could do that. But if we wanted to use money from the moorings, we have to do it as part of an expendable trust through the town meeting. Sorry.

Try not to sneeze. Because we've jumped around a little bit. So is my understanding correct? So what you're proposing, sir, is that if there are more moorings available and it's at the town's discretion to have those, then the money that the town would generate from those moorings would go back in to fund the things that I've been trying to do on the beach for 12 years.

In the end, we could also, because currently, so we have 21 moorings currently that we're responsible for, or we get a $50 fee per mooring for the town. And the state gets a $50 fee. Right. We had to apply for those because we own the beach. Right. And that came back. So we had $1,050 in our application fees on the town side for those moorings.

But those are pre-existing moorings.

But we can take that money.

We've become responsible for. Right. But this would be additional moorings.

Correct. so which would be further out right but what sets the price that's something we would have to decide yeah the state fee is 50 for more period that's state fee but we would have to decide i think whether and that and we would probably want to we probably need to check legality wise are we selling more or are we renting them for the season and how does it care well okay but we can permit it first but i don't think we can sell them either because it's town property we're this is town property that's how we get this dumped back to us to have to apply for these 21 that are already there okay so we could do some more research and talk to the mooring the state moorings about that but i believe we are going to have to manage those moorings correct and license them and so so so that's i knew that

And that was my intention was that they would be the logistics of leasing and mooring versus this or that. I am sure with all the dealings that I've done with all the agencies in New Hampshire and the fact of Bristol and what we're trying to accomplish, I would like to think we could figure a way around how it is, whether that is. I envision price-wise, I don't know, but I know that it's not less than $1,000, probably is $1,500 a season, and could be more. I would say that we would let the market determine it initially.

and you know you're limited to to residents of bristol and and see where it goes i you know i'm not sure legally you can't make money off of a state right it's just well it's a public it's a public it's a public beach so the problem we have in the water is public right we can't rent moorings so we so we can't rent them so we can We can permit moorings or sign moorings to someone, but I just don't know how that would work. We'd have to look into that. Yeah, the lottery.

You'd have to have a special mooring program that costs significantly more than a regular mooring so that we can keep the trees going.

Right, and I think the trees are the number one in my mind, but there are also things, if this was annually you were getting these funds in, there are other things, the roads being undermined a little bit, there honestly should be a handicap ramp down there. You know, and these are all things that, that's why I bring up Charlie, is these are all things I know I can do a lot less than you're going out, and I certainly would go out and take bids to prove you that, you know, I'm not in this to make money. And, you know, if you get to the point that the coffers of that amount of money, then there's certainly other needs, whether it's Cummings Beach or the playgrounds or, you know, whatever. To me, it was you have an asset. The state does control the water. and I have knowledge and connections and location that motivates me. And, you know, I would commit that a member, the home is in the process of going in a trust, and it's going to stay in that trust for generations, that someone that owns that home and the trust would be on the board forever. Because we all have a...

obligation in one way but you know you just don't want to lose it and if we lose the trees we're not coming back in our lifetime yeah mine anyways i don't want to speak for you so it seems to me the question is like the 1050 is a completely different issue that 50 thing was really about how do we capture our costs Of staff, right? Having to chase stuff down. So, like, it's not like there's a 1000 dollar thing sitting there doing up, but that was a cost recovery. For that, but it seems like what we're trying to figure out here is since where the owners of the beachfront. As the town is there a way for us to monetize. And establishing more infield of a size 6 band. Yeah, so expand the morning. in a way that then allows us to monetize that. It's almost like we have to sort of talk to the state a little bit, too, because, again, they do this thing around the whole rental piece.

The problem is typically municipalities can't monetize and make money off of this. We can send things to recover costs, but never set up things that we can make money off of.

It's not about, I guess, okay, so sort of rephrase. It's not about making money. The point ends up becoming maintenance of the beaches down there, and then that's the asset that funds the ramps and the maintenance and the walls and the trees. Yeah.

That we have to look into legally because you're charging something to maintain something. I agree with you. I'm just saying. Usually the... The laws are that you can charge money to recoup for that particular thing.

Right, but that wouldn't stop you from setting up a fund. A charitable fund. No, well, yeah, a revolving fund or whatever you want to call it.

No, for people who go in, but now you can set up a fund.

taking the ambulance receipts and we put that into a revolving fund right right but now we're talking about charging money for something we so right so my point is even if it's just that fifty dollars per yeah you know that could go in yeah it would go into there and then it I mean, at the end of the day.

Yeah, I know which pocketing went to you. Yeah, exactly.

I did ask, I asked two different, the Mooringfield I mentioned, if we did do the license like we're doing with these, the $50, Sean did say you can put that, you can have to do this during a town meeting. You can vote to put that money into this account like we did with the revolving.

Right. set up a new field and, say, charge $1,000. No. If it's only costing you $50, that's all you can charge?

Well, that's what I'm afraid of. I think that's all you can do. I don't think you can do per season, so to speak.

It's like, well, it's similar to the police detail. Right. The price you said for the police detail fund is the direct payroll and benefits costs. and administration and the wear and tear of the vehicle. That's it. You have to come on. That's how you set it. You can't say that, oh, well, let's throw another $100 an hour on so that we can buy new cruisers.

We can get into the weeds. I know Scott had a couple of questions, and then we're going to have some research and some homework to do.

My initial feedback is I think there's two things. There's a desire for more moorings, and we've got to take care of the trees. Are they necessarily tied to the beach? It's all two problems.

A couple of those trees are ash, and those will be dead within another year or so. No matter what we do. No matter what we do. They've got the beetles down there. Everywhere.

Every tree.

Yeah, I mean, why we planted trees along under a power line, I don't know.

Did it go in after?

I don't know. I think the line's always been there.

Yeah, because that was the main road along the line, yeah.

Because we could bury utilities. But I appreciate it's a creative way. Yeah, for sure.

To give the mechanics of it some work would be nice.

Yeah, yeah.

I've got to bring you a lot of it.

I think if You know, because I've certainly thought of this, thinking about it. I think that it needs to be separate. The moorings would continue with like a $50 fee. There would need to be a separate entity, like the attorney was saying to you, that's outside of the town coffers that certainly a town member could sit on the board or, you know, you could control it. But that's actually like a non-profit. It's...

to give you money from the fees. What are you saying? You're saying this board would manage the morgans?

This board would manage the work that's being done, whether or not DPW does it or you go outside. You know, I think the things that I bring to the table and Charlie and my brother is the knowledge at a price that can get things done. I see.

Getting the project done, but what about like annual, who gets which mornings, that kind of thing? by this organization as opposed to the town?

No. No, no. If you said would you manage it, you are controlling it. You own the moorings. But if the board said or the town said you manage it, I don't have any problem managing it. I don't think that's. I don't think that's authority.

I was going to say, too, you do this as a nonprofit. We can't contribute the license fee. to establish either a charitable trust fund through our costs or an expendable trust fund or revolving fund through us. That's the only way we can contribute that money.

Are there any other towns, Sunapee or anybody else that has a similar beach where they've been able to establish moorings?

I can ask the manager's group.

I'm asking.

You know what I mean? I just, again, sort of like back to the comparison thing, like if we could, if there's another community in New Hampshire that's already tackled this, that would be interesting.

Well, I think that you have it right here with Silver Shores.

That's a court order though?

Yeah, it was a court order, but there was a way around it. They figured it out and made it work. If... We had a way to generate, let's say, $20,000 a year that can go into maintaining the best thing that the lake has to offer, not only the trees, the undermining of the road and doing all that, by putting moorings that are on state waters. There has to be a way around it. I don't know what the way is.

That's why I'm saying, potentially, if there's another community... in New Hampshire that's kind of worked that through. Just to Christina's point, the other pieces were cold ordered going, you don't have a choice, go do this.

It was a settlement agreement in order for them to withdraw their claim on the beach. Right.

Okay, yeah, highly intrigued and we've got a little bit more work to do.

I can do a little more research, reach out to the Moorings and talk to you and Mr. Smith can let you know what I find.

Thank you, sir. I will show you these. So tell me, did you buy that piece, that place from a family member?

I did not. Okay. So you've been putting some money into it. I am. We're in the process of winterizing these. New siding, new siding, we spray insulated. We were talking about this. We want one. Wow. Jeff, you're going to have some problems.

I need a racetrack too.

Thank you for thinking of a way to work cooperatively.

All right, take care. Good night. All right, good night. Have a good night. I don't know why I disappeared from that screen. There it is. Okay. Okay, so they're not coming.

Sargent's not. Yeah, okay, good. Let's talk. I'm the good engineer at Jeff. Let me...

All right, very good. Good evening, sir. Thank you for joining us tonight.

I'm here just to explain where we are with the force main. contract with Sargent, who are the contractor. So as you're aware, they pulled off site, demobilized, and confirmed in writing that they couldn't proceed with the directional drill, and they wanted to be compensated for costs they incurred to date. So they presented us with a breakdown of the cost and hopefully Christina has shared that with you guys. That number was $370,000 is what they were looking for, is what they believed were their sunk costs of what they incurred at the point they pulled off site. Obviously we've reviewed that and we've reviewed it against what our film observations have been and we didn't agree with that. We've already paid them under the contract $191,000. A portion of that is their general conditions and the other portion is the materials cost for the pipe and fittings. So that was £191,000. We felt that that represented what they had done thus far. We were willing to agree with them that they were to use some additional money for some of the deep down that they had to do in order to remove some of the blockages at the directional drill. And that value was approximately $38,000. So in round numbers, we believe that they were due $230,000 under their contract. And they were at $370,000. So obviously, we're a ways apart there. It's a differential of $140,000. So, as you're aware, they were unwilling at first to really discuss it with us, other than to say that they felt they were due the 370 and that's what they wanted to be paid. They also came up with an alternative alignment and profile in order to reduce costs and try within the amount that was remaining. Unfortunately that had several compromises on it in that the depth of the force main was very shallow below the recommended minimum body the state required and they also introduced some air relief structures. So again we weren't We weren't going to agree to that. That wasn't the design intent. The design intent was to eliminate the existing two air release structures and just have the pipe continually rising so that it can't trap air. So we came up with a profile. We looked at the profile. We did that to where we felt that was in the best interest of the town. We sent that across to them. They did give us a number for that, and that's the $761,000 that's in the breakdown of the change order summary, which you should also have a copy of. so with the the cost that they were looking for the hdb obviously we couldn't agree on that and i said they were unwilling to discuss it first of all but they did come to the table and what they what they've done is they've um i guess they met us halfway is what they've done so they they came back and said they'll split the difference between what we believe that their the 299 000 i think is what that that number equates to covering them for what they've incurred thus far plus then the 761 000 to do the rest of the false name video open cut but that 290 includes

We've already paid them something, right?

Yes, we've paid $191,000 as it stands to date for the four smear.

Right, so my question, if we agreed to this, are we coming up with $100,000 or are we coming up with $290,000?

No, the money that's been paid to date gets deducted from this. Sorry, go ahead, Steve. So the top of the right that they've been paid is $191,000. So it's just, it works out just over $110,000, I think is what it is, to get it to that. It's almost $300,000 is what the number is. We were at $230,000 and they were at $317,000. They came back and said, we'll split the difference. So they want to be paid $300,000 less the $191,000 they've already been paid. Then, in addition to that, we do have the contingency. It was a $200,000 contingency, but we've processed a number of smaller change orders, one through four. So the remaining amount of the contingency is $152,000. When you look at how I've laid this out here on the change order summary, their lump sum bid for the force maker was £776,900, less what they've been paid to date leaves a balance of £595,000. Then we need to add in the additional HD costs which is £108,000 plus the force lane open car £761,000. That leaves a balance of £283,000. So we then take off the contingency balance and that leaves an additional £130,000 that the town needs to fund outside of the agreed project budget.

It's still 283,000. I was just going to say. Because you just have to, so it's 283,798 dollars and 24 cents. That's over and above technically not counting the contingency. If you vote to approve them to use the contingency, that's the 152. Okay. And then in reality, it's 130 over because we did have that contingency number in the original numbers.

We have the contingency in the original. However, I guess my biggest concern is, well, A, how did they come up, how do they justify their number when your record shows something drastically different? And okay, we're meeting halfway, but that's meeting halfway to a number that we felt and I think your people on the ground felt was, I guess I wouldn't say fraudulent, but it's... Artificially high. Artificially high, yeah. Yeah.

I'll let him answer. Yeah, I mean it's... It's difficult to, you know, they back it up with, you know, with their own reports, their time cards and that. And obviously we are, you know, we're a part-time company. doing the RPR for this project, so we do capture what we see on site, you know, the number of workers on site, the equipment and materials, and then, you know, the discussions that get had at site level with the superintendent and our RPR. So yeah, I mean, you know, this they will come up with their own breakdown of where they feel that they're they're they're owned and then you know we've got to try and you know do the straight face test to say right is that you know is that fair and reasonable what they're asking for you know they they're definitely due some money um you know and um you know i i don't think they were going to be coming down to the number that we it's where do you draw the line and how hard do you go after them to try and get it down you know further versus you know we've lost you know a considerable amount of time as this is kind of dragged on so there's that to take into account you know Overall, you'll end up spending a million and 60,000 for the force main installation. Just to share with you as well, when we opened bids back in 24, the next highest bidder for the force main had 1.1 million and then the next highest one was 1.3. So I still think that I'm getting some value for money here. The other thing the contractor said that they've also kept to their 2024 numbers, you know, they've not increased their numbers, you know, to now 2026. Yeah.

So that's interesting data. Steve, can I ask a couple of quick questions? First one is you said you're only part-time there monitoring. Is that right? So part-time project manager? Yeah. Okay. And let's go back to the 191 for a second. So the 191,000 also included a lot of materials, right? Like I guess where I keep getting confused is I feel like we're mixing numbers too much. Again, you know, just one. So it's 191,000, but in that 191,000 there's a bunch of parts, right? And the parts are going to be used regardless, right? Because it comes across a little bit like the directional drilling became a time and materials job, and then we're redoing the bid. Now, the most interesting thing, honestly, that you just said was when you look at the previous open bids, And the next closest one to these guys was 1 point, would you say 1.1?

Just for the fourth. Yeah.

Yeah, you know, I got, so my point is, so now we basically are saying the forced main was really $629,000 and now we're going to be at $1,060,000. So it's a 400, yes, it's 283 difference here, but it's really a $400,000 difference, right? Because ultimately it's going to cost us $1,060,000. We're paying for the balance of $776,900, plus we're paying for the 200 feet that did go in with directional drilling. And the other part that I think is also interesting is when you laid out the $191,000, you said you also had $38,000 where they were unclogging the machines. I'm just trying to like sort of like work backwards from the numbers and be able to accurately compare. The original bid was $629,000. So we took the lowest bid that was almost half of the next closest bid for the forced main in 2024 is one of them, right?

Well, just to be clear, the bid wasn't $629,000. It was $776,900. By contract we require them to, excuse me, we require the contractor to break it down into a number of items and one of those items is the bonds and insurances and the general conditions and the demote and the mobilisation. So that's just how they've broken that part down in their lump sum bid for the £776,900.

But okay, so so then why are we then comparing? Because we have at the top here this the force main is six twenty nine nine Because it seems like bonds and sharing general conditions in mobilization. You're going to be bonds insurance and mobilization like I'm just again. I'm trying to I'm trying to back into the number and understand sort of where it came from So

Jeff is also in the room with us, and I guess I'm going to ask you to tell us what you think and where we're at and what your recommendation is.

Initially, I was hoping that the directional drill would work, and that wasn't successful. I'd like to see this project done, and I think this is a good compromise because there was talk of, let's see how far we can get with the money that we have, and that wouldn't have gotten the whole pipe in. This at least gets our whole pipe in, kind of as designed with the exception that it's going to be an open pipe. And like Steve said, it eliminates the air relief. Oh, it does eliminate the airway?

Yes.

Okay, so that was it, because last time I think you were going back and forth, do you shallow or not shallow? So you go to whatever depth, what's it, 12 feet or something?

Yeah, roughly at the top of Maronite Street, and continue to pitch up until the gravity feeds.

Okay. All right. Yep.

Originally, there were multiple options being discussed about let's just go and do the worst parts. And I'm like, no. We're not going to do this and find out in five years we have to go open it up again. And then they tried to go as far as they could. We didn't like that idea either.

When you just do the worst parts, you find out where your next worst parts are. Right. Yeah, exactly. It's true.

okay so any other questions or comments or i'd like to know what the contractor's obligation is to us when they realize they're starting to venture into over budget kind of territory what was their obligation to inform you or the town that they're they're going to need a change order. And how early? What triggers that? And did they meet that obligation?

Yes, they did. They wrote to us via a letter, and the time we copied on that letter to state why they demobilized and pulled off the site.

But that was already after they had gone $300,000 into it.

No. They had done the 200 feet into it and ran into the problem, so the $191,000 into it, which is some of that is material, though. Correct?

Well, we have a bigger change order than $101,000.

Right. This change order is to finish the project. It's not for the... We don't have a change order for just what they did.

So what... What I don't understand, and maybe I'm just obtuse, but... A lot of this work wasn't wasted, right? I mean, they had to start all over.

Some of it was. The drilling, right? I mean, we did it.

They only got 180 feet in, but they spent.

Yeah, there's 180 feet in three weeks. And that'll do so, I think. The 180 feet that they did will be there, and we're going to be able to splice two feet, which is what Scott's point is.

Right, and that 180 feet, did that cost a whole lot more than they expected it to?

and if you did when were they going to tell us and how how are they supposed to tell us okay well i think i think that was closer closer to 300 foot that's what they've actually installed that's good yeah i mean you know it's they the the frustrating communication at site level from the contractor to say, we're experiencing problems. They kind of just made the decision on their own and then we were notified in writing. So they didn't give us an opportunity or they didn't raise it early enough with our type representative to say, hey, there's a problem here. I think they were know i want to think that they were trying to go as long as they could to try and make it work and then they just got to a point where they where they where they just couldn't and they just had to you know put a stop on it but but there's no contractual obligation to inform us that they're going over budget within a certain threshold like right like i would think that c100 is a whole lot to go over before they say something

I mean, I guess, Steve, to put a finer point on it, I think we talked about this the last time, right? We took the dollar amount, we divided by the number of feet they get in. Yes. Right? Like we went through that exercise, right? Which basically meant when they did their estimates, they said, okay, we're going to put in, I don't know, just call it 10 feet a day. Directional drill, right? So like... after five days 50 feet is in oh no after five days i'm i'm only at two feet you know what i'm saying so like that and what worries me isn't so much finding a solution to this but now we're going to open up the streets and we're going to keep going in the same manner how do we make sure that this scenario doesn't happen because because once we approve this there's no more contingency and we're taking stuff out of the savings account to go finish this so the fact that we have the communication status the way we do doesn't sort of, at least from my vote, does not make me feel good about how we make sure we don't end up with, hey, by the way, you got an open pit and we're out of here because now we hit budget. It's almost like we want to have like a weekly budget to progress update or something. And maybe that's not totally fair, but all I'm saying is it's like, you know, we're very early days We're having to pull all the levers that we have to make sure the project gets done. The levers are done after tonight. And if that's the case, then how do we make sure we don't have a problem?

All I can say is the contractor does know that they're using up all the contingency and that there is no more change orders after this. They've got to get it done.

We've had assurances from them that they're going to get it done. They're going to reinstate the road. They're going to pave it.

This will be a complete installation of the forceway.

I guess one other question would be, given the cost change in this, does the bond structure need to change from a completion perspective so we don't have a mess? So generally there's a completion bond, and the completion bond is based on the contract amounts. So now we have changes with the contract amounts that are significantly changing. Does the bond need to increase so that we make sure that it's covered?

We did, via change order number three, I believe we changed their contract time so that substantial completion is August 7th this year and final completion is September 18th. So that's what their. No, that's their timeframe.

I'm talking about the bond amount, right? The bond for the town is our protection. If the contractor decides to pull up stakes, we have the ability to go to the bond and go, no, no, no, no, no. We're going to go finish this. My question is, does the bond amount need to change since the contract amount is going up significantly?

I'm going to have to check on that one for you. The way it's worked in the past is that the When we amend the contract here, a change order, that's a bona fide change in the contract and that automatically triggers the change for the bond conditions.

But I will just...

get you a solid answer on the problem.

Yeah, I guess, because this goes back a million years, where we'd have to get a binder from our insurance company when we were doing work in downtown Boston, and we'd have to say, we're bonded for this amount. If they still, I don't know, did we get a binder? I don't know if that's still a good process. Because if we got a binder, then we can either check the binder, or we just need to know that we, I guess I would love to see something that says, okay, we recognize that this is much higher and the bond amount has now changed.

Okay. All right. Well, those are things that we're going to, yeah, but we need to decide tonight where we go from here.

You could do a conditional upon what Steve finds out. Okay. I mean, we can certainly do that if that's what you want to do. My concern is making, that wait until August 6th to start back up.

I don't think any of us like it. I don't know. But here we are. We're doing it for you, Jeff. I appreciate it.

Don't do it for him because he's going to retire.

Based on the other quotes, it sounds like.

Right. You know, honestly, I'm not sure before Steve said that, I'm not sure how I would have voted to be candid. Like, not because I didn't want to, but the fact that the next closest ones kind of put us in the same ballpark, that makes me feel better. I just want to make sure that since we started in one realm, we have a mechanism that we can pull on if the project doesn't go the way it needs to.

Overall, the closest bid to us overall was over a million dollar difference with two sorry yes it was huge yeah yeah okay anyway all right If you look at the back page of the document I wrote up for you guys on the summary, it says the Bristol Select Board approves these things and authorizes this. So that might give you, it's in the folder, in your folder, it says the summary document, no, sorry, in your folder on your desktop, your computer, there's a summary document number seven, that one, it gives you the breakdown the change order but then you get to the my back page your second page it says the personal board approves it so it gives you a breakdown of what to say if you want to use that

okay i got it you got it i think so yeah i didn't want me to you see it's on paper i'll make a motion to approve change order number five in the amount of 283 798.24 authorizing their remaining project contingency fund of 152,945.98 towards this change order and the balance of the change order of $852.26 coming from the sewer capital reserve fund. and also authorize the town administrator to sign and authorize the change order.

And the condition of the bond? Yeah. What's that? The condition, just a condition that we make sure that the bond is properly increased to reflect the new amount of $1,06,698.24. Because that's the revised contract.

In the whole project, it's going to be more than that.

Oh, okay.

All right. Well, yeah. The bond is that.

The bond number is what it is, isn't it? No, that's the question I asked. The bond is based on the total project cost, so the project cost goes up by $300,000 a month. By $300,000. That's all I'm saying. What verification of that? Yeah. I wouldn't use a number.

I'd just say total project costs.

Right. Okay. There you go.

I'll second it.

I wrote it down.

With that condition. Okay.

With that condition.

Okay. All right. Any other questions, comments? All right. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed? Abstentions? All right. I think it's 24 cents that irritates me the worst.

Well, eventually we're going to have to start rounding up those cents, by the way. But that's a whole other discussion.

All right. Thank you very much. Thanks, Dave. Thanks, Steve. I'll talk to you later, Steve.

Yep. Yep. Okay. Bye. I've asked Jeff to stay a little longer. My TA report is a mess. So Jeff, if you're okay with it, there's a couple updates that I tried to throw some pictures into the folder. So I'll try and share them on the screen instead. But Jeff.

We can look at them on our computers.

Okay. Well, because I don't know if they're in there. Oh, no.

We can look at them on our computers.

Yeah, so they're in there. So Jeff wanted to give you, you want to give updates down for the Hillside and then talk about the oxidation damage.

Yeah, yeah.

I won't share anything.

Yeah.

There's nothing up. Excuse me, just talk. All right.

Yeah, you're good. We got an annual visit from DES, I think. Did you share the letter with them? No. But anyways, he responded with a letter of his findings. I'll email that out to everyone. And one of the big concerns that they have is, of course, that upper ditch that we're dealing with, with the oil spill. Yeah. Yeah, so we did some testing a few weeks back, I think, you know, a couple weeks. The results came back. We ran those by DES. They're still encouraging us to move forward with a carbon filter. It's a trailer-mounted unit that you'd come in and you'd pump. that upper ditch into that carbon filter and then discharge it into the lower ditch before treatment and discharge to the room. So I'm looking into some pricing on that right now. Some of the other things that they had, I can't think off the top of my head on that one. I think they just mentioned the staff and that they're happy to see that we're getting some licensed operators on board. in trying to just retain those. They did mention recruiting and retaining employees. They feel as though we should look at what we're paying our employees.

The state? There was a recommendation by the state?

Yeah, recommended, yeah. The head work screening was another thing. We've talked about that. That's something I'd like to put in the budget next year. I was kind of hoping to see how these chopper pumps that are going into Central Street will work. But I think they'd like to see the rags removed right out of the flushable wipes they mentioned that aren't really flushable.

You're talking about rags and flushable wipes? Availability of state funding for new equipment is strongly recommended.

Oh yeah, I told them I would look into that. Oh, that was the other thing, the asset management. They said that we should get that and I just made them aware that we are actually, that we did apply for and received a grant for the asset management.

SOPs.

And the standard operating procedures. That's something during the winter I had been working on those. I've got quite a few done.

and i'm going to continue that hopefully before i retire i have it all done so so we we're getting information more about the work on the oxidation ditch what we i'd like to do is what we have to do is required. We can't just put the water from the oxidation. We can't mix them without going through this process is what DDS is saying. The carbon filter. Yeah. So that is going to be an expense. And both Jeff and I feel it should be the contractor's responsibility for that expense. So I'm going to do it. Once we get more numbers, I'm going to do a letter to the contractor to give, let them know that this is coming, but we might have to front the costs and then, just so we can get it done before we get any more concerns raised by DDS, so. Excellent. Yeah, the .

We had that . There are some pictures, but.

Yeah.

So that was repaired. We ran a temporary line about 1500 feet. We ran it from Dareforth Brook under 104 through a culvert and we were able to supply water to the highway shed, the wastewater plant, the transfer station, the state shed. Carried us through until we were able to make that repair last week. We had Craig Hall, he had an excavator with a twistable bucket on it. It worked excellent. It was really the way to go, the area that it was. Sean, I think you took a walk up there and it was a really difficult area to be digging in and it worked out well. Provided some pads to get a bridge built to span the river, not a river but the Danforth Brook to keep us out of that. The machine was big enough to excavate on one side of the brook and just dump across into the dump truck so it went well. It was about 12 and a half hours but the guys all worked together good with the contractors and pretty happy with how it went.

In the discussion folder, it's labeled image JPEG and there are five pictures, one, zero through five. You saw it in person, but if anybody else wanted to see the equipment, so.

But it does bring up a concern. That's the third break that we've had since I've started. Well, 26 years ago, I think there was a break that we actually encountered that when we were digging the other day. So this new break was probably 10 more feet up the hill from that. There was also a break. There's a sleeve that goes under 104 and it broke there, if I had to guess, probably 10 or 12 years ago. We had to do that repair. That has me concerned that maybe we should consider for the future to replace that. I'd like to do a directional drill from Danforth Brook under 104 and pop out somewhere down by the wastewater plant and tie into that up just because it would be... Really difficult to do anything else in repairing that or replacing that. So just something to consider, put it on my capital projects to start looking into that.

I was amazed that you got it done in a day.

Yeah, yeah.

It was really, Jeff did get the bill, it was $3,200.

$3,200, so it was cheaper than I thought it was going to be.

Yeah, good.

Very happy. The guys like to experience my new guys, so. It just went well. I'm very happy.

Hillside?

Yeah, Hillside we had another leak. That was just yesterday. You stopped by in the morning to help, but never returned.

I did, but they told me I had to go get my heart and heart and they said, okay, I'll see you next week.

But that was just the service line. A resident on the road had called it in. He noticed a wet spot for a week or so. Yeah. and then brought a tire tension and we jumped right on it, made an emergency dig out of it and got it fixed. There was a flared fitting on the main. The main was installed in 1952, but I think that was all original copper. So again, more experience for the guys. It was the first time they got the flare up fitting, so. And it held, so.

So do you want to also give you a heads up on Jeff's budget? So because of all of the water breaks we've dealt with this year, we're over budget on the maintenance supplies, materials supplies, and water. And we're only halfway through the year and we are quite substantially over. We are under on sewer, so knock on wood.

A big chunk of that was that major repair we did down on Central Street where we relocated the hydrant and we tend to tie that in from a break the previous year so I think that was seven grand just the materials yeah and then uh again with this uh this one here on Danforth Brook the bypass piping that was probably three grand just to purchase that it's reusable pipe it's not going to waste but it's just a chunk of money that we had to and that kept us All of us in operation anyways. Mostly. Mostly, yeah. Yeah, mostly.

Try not to burn again.

We did find that out and we said, don't do that again.

All right. Very good. Thanks for the update, and thank you to the contractors and to Mike for bringing the notes over that helped a lot. Make sure. Yeah. So, excellent. Anything else for us tonight? I think that counts as a no.

No, I think we've got a tour next Tuesday again. Okay. I think I'm going to have to sign up.

If anybody can make it. They have a tour of the, so a full tour. It takes you not just on the treatment facility, but it takes the full water and sewer tour.

Out to the well.

Yeah.

Out to the well, so. If you haven't seen VitaVit, you could probably show up around 10 o'clock at the wastewater plant and join then, or if you wanted to just go from 8 to 10 and see the other part of the system. Where are you starting? We meet at the treatment plant, but then we head right up to Fallowell shortly after that. What day? Tuesday at 8 o'clock.

And for the public that's listening, this is also open to the public. If you're interested in, you wanted to know who was coming.

It'd be nice to have a head count, but I'm fine with people if they want to show up. We've scheduled another one in August. I can't remember exactly what day in August, but if you could email us that. These are scheduled ones, but if any of the public would like to give us a call and set something up, we're fine with giving tours.

Tours are kind of what they are. So August 25th is the one after that? okay thank you thank you jeff thank you guys thank you i'm very busy thanks jeff thank you nice to see you guys the next person is not a message that he won't be able to come tonight the quote was not in yet um so he's working on

All right. Administrator's report.

You can look, if you want, first at the info information.

Where are those pictures from? Which pictures?

I didn't get them all loaded. I tried to.

I was loaded 12 minutes ago.

Yeah, did you like those? Where are those from? I think all of those are South Main Street. Yep. Yep. It's bad. So if you look at the TA, it's here for info only. I don't know if you have any questions about any of the items on there. I guess the only thing I would, I'll point out two things actually. One is the sand, our sand stocks are low and we were able to get them before. it looks like we're going to get them from marsons but they're not going to be adding any sand until like um late this year so victor wants to get them stocked up and put away so he you'll see them start doing that in the next few weeks de-escalation training is set for july 30th will be the public safety building for nine community and i'm holding a building meeting after that here because there are we um i feel there's some things that this building hasn't talked about in a while about security um and about the building so i can get that done we used to hold one twice a year and we haven't had one in a couple of years so um so we're going to do that and then we'll be open in the afternoon for the public but i'll make sure that i post it so Other than that, oh, I will remind you before you still need to complete the sticker check event.

Yeah, I was just, I was going to look at the weather until I get distracted. But I think even, I think if it's raining, actually it might be better. So if they're with our for a couple hours.

The sticker check events each of you are supposed to do on your own. on some on it could be a monday it could be a wednesday it could be a saturday it's up to you when you go there is a clipboard in the bill in the main office that gives you some key things to note and then gives you some questions to answer which one is here and kind of like what scott severin did so improve on smart And based on his input, there's an item under TA discussion about that. But I know that we don't normally do info, but feather signs, they are allowed to have one according to the zoning ordinance. So I know there would be some discussion about certain ones out there. They're allowed to have one.

All right.

So if there's more than one, we do address it. One of the signs we talked about has been removed. Another one has it, but that property's up for sale, so. Yeah. But other than that, that's it on info that I would point out. Are you ready for your list? I'm shivering. Sorry, guys.

Yeah, who tested it?

I don't know, but I'm like.

It was not me.

I covered my vent, and I'm like sitting here.

Well, Seth was stopping me, right?

I don't, it's blowing . All right, so, oh, two things. From July 2nd, your non-public meeting minutes, you did not motion to seal them. Can somebody, and you did not motion tonight.

I was thinking that, too, because I read that earlier, and I was like, I couldn't remember. I added it on tonight.

So can someone do a motion about the July 2nd and tonight's non-public?

i moved to seal the non-public minutes from july 2nd 2026 and from tonight's meeting july 16 26 because the development of this information will likely

And firstly, the reputation of any person other than a member of this board.

Second.

Do we say indefinitely?

Indefinitely. Indefinitely.

Yeah. Thank you.

All right.

And second by John. Yeah. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Abstentions?

Thank you. So if you remember when we were talking about budget, there's a new $3.50 surcharge on all of our tonnage that goes to? Yes. We've applied for our first reimbursement for the first quarter, and it was 249.15 tons for total surcharge amount of $872.03. So it gives us an idea of roughly that's the first quarter. So even if you take that, it's going to be roughly $3,500. Or 3200, whatever.

So why are we paying a surcharge that gets refunded?

DES refunds it to us, but the surcharge is paid to NR, is it NR? To the hauling. It's hauled. And the state's refunding us the surcharge? And the state is refunding us the surcharge. Yeah. Yeah.

Much more efficient to do that than to just pay it directly. Yeah. Yeah.

But if we miss applying for it, we won't get the money. So that's another step that we've done. And they've done a really good job on it and got it in. And then we can't get the next one in until 90 days after the quarter closes.

Okay.

TAN discussion. So we took the $700,000 on the TAN. We haven't paid it back yet. And we are... I did get a... a payoff to quote, but not to close the TAN. So I'm bringing this to the board just to make sure that you know that we don't close the TAN. This TAN stays in effect until May. We can only, if we need the money to pay the county, I can't do anything more than a million. That's it. Or I have to do a whole new TAN, but this TAN stays, so. my at first i was thinking do we not pay it and keep the money but we would be paying interest this whole time so do we pay it now and only have a million should we need it to pay the county in the fall what's the county bill going to be about a million dollars i think it's about a million well i know you're going it's going to have a it was going to have an increase no we've already got it if the increase will hit next year technically okay So hang on, I don't know if I see anything.

Do we have a cash flow report yet to tell us? Okay.

I think it's, if I was estimating it's 1.1. So $1,079,000 or something like that. Yeah. we will have a million if we needed it to pay the county but we're hoping we're going to set the tax rate sooner so that we won't have to borrow but i just want you i guess i don't quite understand if we're we're paying down the balance to zero why is there only one because because we found out that we can't We can't run it. We're not allowed to do that. The bank let us do that last year. It's called a drawdown is what it is. So when you pay it back as long as it wasn't matured, they allowed us to draw it down again.

Oh, okay.

The bond attorney said no, we can't do that. So. Okay.

So the most you can draw out of it. Yes. In total is the one second.

Is the million.

That makes sense.

So I can, we are talking about paying the 700 back. Right, so we're not paying interest. So we're not paying interest. And right now the payoff from that with interest was only through tomorrow, so this number will change, is $703,279. We've already paid about 1100 in interest. So that number will go up a little bit, but we'll probably, you'll see that in your manifest next week. Okay. Disposal discussion. They dropped off stuff out here. So if you would like to take a look at it. Oh, I was going to ask you about that.

I don't know if the generator's there. I'll have to look.

There's a big welder there. The welder's there. The line paint sprayer is there. So, and I've got cones to block off the part of the parking lot. I talked to, on the MIG welder and the line sprayer, Victor said to leave it up to you, but he was thinking two or 250 as is. Do you have a preference on either one of them? i mean i put them for i put the goal is to get rid of them right yeah let's put them for two months and i'm going to put the prizes i'm not sure if the generator has been brought up yet from water and sewer and he said the same thing he would leave it up to you, two or 250 as is, so 200 on all three, okay. So we'll have those up there if anybody's interested in a big welder, a line sprayer, or a generator, an older generator, they'll pay for sale during the town wide yard sale. And a reminder to the public town, our yard sale is July 18th from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. And the maps for the sale will be on sale at the Masonic Lodge, but you can stop by the town office, not for a map, but to buy something. Fireworks discussion. Fireworks was really good. The show itself, the vendor sales were down, but We knew it was going to be hit or miss by the date. We knew we were either going to be slammed or we were going to be a little lower. And because there were still other events around, including Hebron had a band and stuff going on there, I think that affected things.

I thought it was well attended.

Yeah. The numbers, it took longer for people to get there. I was starting to panic a little. But we still have a few things to close them out. If I count the golf carts, we're over the 30,000 that was budgeted. I'm not counting them in that count. So we are right under what we're done. I think we're going to be right under the 30, so we did good. Here's the problem for next year. They haven't answered me yet. I've reached out to them to ask them. what is the minimum number to book the fourth, or close to the fourth. The fourth is Sunday, so it would be the third, I was thinking. What they told Rob, because Rob helped handle the boat part of it, it's going to be 40 for us to get that. We paid 28 this year. So I want to put that bug in your ear now, if we're going to try to do that or not, Or what are we, it's getting more expensive. But to get the fourth because they're going to be shorter staffed with shooters, that's what they're telling Rob right now.

There we go, they're going to be shorter staffed.

For shooters. I don't know if they, people left. I think there's probably certain requirements to setting up. Licensing. Yeah, licensing. So they already know that. We can try to go out to a different vendor, but we weren't getting responses from other vendors when we tried it before. So I'm just putting this out.

We need to lock that in sooner rather than later so we just don't and just be done with it because at the end of the day, I guess a few things. One is I got some great feedback around what they did. I mean, really, like a lot of folks really enjoyed just the entire show. I mean, I actually captured some pretty good video. They also moved the barge a little further up the lake toward Mayhew.

They'll watch the live feed. You hear me yelling at people I saw you

Honestly, I got good feedback because of the location.

Yeah, but could you see it? You could still see it. So we've always advertised you can see it from Cummings, because those are off. We want people to see it from votes, yes. But our major concern is Cummings and Avery Krause. Yeah, right. And you could see it from both. Good. I thought they were good, too.

I just didn't want the Avery. Oh, it's a great show. Yeah. Anyway, so that was good. The height, there were definitely some differences, I think, in what was done. again sort of the point that i made a while ago you know if tourism is our top economy driver around here so we need to make sure that we handle that well so we continue to bring in those folks from the town for help the vendors um so the vendors did say their numbers were down some but i was surprised at the number of free tickets so we provided free tickets for our staff

So they get fed and we instead, we used to buy, so we used to order it, have to go pick it up, bring it down, deliver it. So we changed it one year and we got all the vendors to agree to food tickets. So we make them up and they turn them in at the end of the night. Foodhound had 11 food tickets over there from our staff, which was really good because the boat crew comes in and they get to feed over there and go back out on the boat. I haven't heard from two of the vendors back yet. I'm waiting for their counts. But most of our vendors, the one I haven't heard from, I'm not sure how well he did, But the rest of them are one participating in.

Did the extra power panels work out? Except for one vendor. Really?

One vendor needed a 220 outlet and these don't have that. So the question would be do we do that?

Yeah, we'll reach out to Jeff and have him set up one.

And here's my other question. Does anybody know where West Shore Road Block 1 electricity is? I just was paying bills and I'm like, where is West Shore Road lot one? It's minimal. It's always a minimal bill. I'm thinking, is that Cummings? And do we still have electricity to that property that we're paying minimal all this time?

I don't know. Yeah, but how's that lot one? Because West Shore Road starts at the church. Yeah. I don't know. So would lot one be basically where the signage is? Where the old hut used to be.

Oh, I wonder if we're still being electric to that property. Yeah.

I'll find out.

Oh, yeah, the old . Yeah. That's a good idea.

The old Chamber of Commerce .

We have that electricity removed.

I remember there was electricity and we had it removed, so I'm going to contact the source. We want retro. So my question, well, if you can prove that we had it removed.

I think they have to do something. So my question would be with a panel at Cummings. If we're going to continue to build these events, so do other events potentially, Our food trucks could benefit by plugging in, and we could have entertainment over there, but we have no electricity. So the question would be, do you?

Yeah, next to that mailbox.

There's a pole.

There's three spots right there. It would be perfect for a food truck to pull in. That way there, the rest of the parking lot is vehicles.

We won't put them in the other parking lot yet. So we put them in the other parking lot, and it didn't work out.

Oh, they were using that for the boat. No, never mind that part.

I put the vendors in the upper parking lot. It was a miscommunication, so I tried it. But the problem is I made them face the lake because I didn't want people lined up towards the road. So people drove by and couldn't tell what was there, technically, because their backs were too. The ice cream truck was obvious. They kept playing music is what I heard. But the food truck was not obvious. No, I think we'll put them in the, down by the guardrail and the, so when you come in all the way to the end of the lower parking lot, we put them there before, which would put them in, if you put the panel on the pole, it would put them in, you could technically tie into the pole there, if you're okay with that.

Yeah, I mean, your panel could go next to the port-a-potty, and then they just run cords over it, is that far enough away?

I think there's a telephone pole, is it there, down further?

so do we make a motion to authorize christine to go finish off

I don't think you need the motion because it's within my authority for the money. However, I wanted your general consensus.

Not the thing I'm talking about, fireworks. Oh, fireworks. Fireworks, because you said fireworks . I'd lock it in. Well, that's what I'm saying. We do a motion. So try and lock in.

It's pennies on the dollar. Plus, you know, we . What they draw in there is .

So try and lock Saturday the 3rd. We'll try to lock in. Yes.

You have that increase of us, unfortunately.

And then what would reverse rain date the 2nd? Because I don't think you want it on a Sunday, do you?

Yeah, Friday. Yeah.

Oh, the people might have Monday off.

Yeah. So I think we have to look and see which date it is. Because if it's Sunday, Monday should be the observed.

We will have Monday off.

So if Monday's the observed, then the rain date is Sunday.

Okay, so we will be in the parade. It will be a really long day for staff, but I think it was a long day because they were in swim with a mission. So the third with the main date of the fourth, I don't think we're going to get that because we think we're going to either have to pick the fourth with the main date of the third.

or the take the second oh yeah yeah because the fourth is going to be a popular date right so then so then pick i would say pick the fourth go with the fourth to the third because the thing is if we go if we go again and we go okay we're gonna pick the third with a reverse ring date of friday that almost feels that almost feels harder than it is if we know monday's the holiday picking the fourth with saturday is the option okay

I'm going to reach back out. I'll call tomorrow and ask them to lock it in.

So I'll make a motion that we authorize you to work with the vendor to work out the contracts for the fireworks for 2027 and negotiate the dates of that weekend, July 3rd and 4th.

I did put out, I'm sorry, go ahead, finish your motions.

I'll sign it for discussion's sake.

All right.

And you can go ahead.

No other discussion? He said we have to have a motion. I guess that was my.

It's $40,000. It's more money than I can prove. It's still going to go to town meeting. Right, right, right. But let's walk it in.

And you have to have a non-appropriation grant.

I think, right, I know we haven't had any luck yet, but with like, how did you make out with donations?

I got, oh, so, oh my God, Mr. Smith's granddaughter was the one who did the donations. Oh, yeah, yeah. By the way, she's so cute. The wing was too heavy, so I ended up putting most of the stuff away. It was just too much. But we ended up with $61 from Lemonade Stand, our youngest donator. And then when I was cleaning the church parking lot, I found $10, and I put it in to the donations. So if it was your turn.

You know, there's still people I can still donate to.

Well, I did put, so I started to tell you that I put out a really, a thank you, and I outlined all of them, the vendors, I outlined. I forgot the church. I should do that. Because.

Why are you looking at me?

So, but I did put in the last paragraph that we would let people to step up and participate, either area businesses or organizations that want to donate, or if anybody wants to partner and join the fireworks committee. I have also put it out to the fireworks committee. I am not going to run their meetings anymore. I don't mind helping with the event and doing some of the stuff, but I couldn't organize meetings and get this stuff done too this year. It was too rough. So I'm hoping that somebody will step up and do a friends of the four. I've tried that twice and get one stepping up. So if anybody's listening, and I'm hoping that somebody will step up. The fireworks committee is just that.

Because that worked out really well.

If we could get Friends of the Force started again, it would be great. Because I think they could do the fundraising. They could get the...

I don't know if one of the instigators, the original instigators, would be interested in that.

He talked about sharing all of his stuff with me. I can reach out to him too.

Yeah.

On how we did the fundraising before, so.

Yeah, he's a plethora of ideas.

He's finishing his renovations. He might be freed up. And he has a permit.

Special price today for fireworks. So there was a bunch of fireworks. The week before. The week before.

Yeah.

Saturday night.

There was. Yeah.

There was. Well, the inn did a big one. Yeah. And then two colleges down had even bigger ones.

Really?

Yes.

Did one, too, the same night.

Yeah.

did a huge one.

Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. I'll move on from that.

Thank you.

So we got a motion on the second.

Yeah. Oh, sorry.

Yeah.

Okay. All those in favor? Aye.

Aye.

Right. Inside.

I know. Listen, if I'm the guy driving the process. I know.

So every second meeting is going to be the inside scoop, and I didn't get anything, any ideas from you, so I wrote it. All right. But I wanted, if you look in your folders, there's a couple things I wrote in there.

So John, you'll have to look at yours.

So the first, if you look at the inside scopes, there should be, where the heck are they? Are they in here?

Yeah, they're in the TA.

Oh, yeah, discussion. So the first one is the select board submission, if you want to look at that one.

He had it on Facebook.

I know, but... Oh, yeah, no, it's good. Did you like the saying? It said, did you know not all select board members wear suits to meetings? John Miller recently proved that sometimes an inflatable eagle works just as well.

Inflatable eagle.

Eagle, not eagle.

Now I'm going to get a call tomorrow from the select board member at Litchfield that does watch our meetings just to call me and make fun of me.

So what I took was I took your submissions so far and put them in AI and said, okay, logically where would our next step go? And this is what came up and then I tweaked it. So if you're good with it. I also showed you mine is in there. And then there's special I might need to fix one of these now that I'm thinking of it, but let me get to it. I also wanted to put the special thank you for the parade and the fireworks. Yes. The parade was fantastic.

I do have some feedback.

We need a band. No.

He did good.

Parades need bands. In the parade.

I agree. In the parade would be nice.

Positive feedback. I thought the parade and the planning went well. I don't know about the planning. It seemed like it was well planned. I don't know all the details, but from where my viewpoint was at the bank parking lot, behind the DJ, right? The DJ with Tim was great. I saw people dancing down there. They were enjoying the music.

We sang Happy Birthday, too.

Yeah, that was, yeah. That all went well. We do need to get signage up on our public parking lots.

Oh, yes.

Literally, there's one car in the parking lot. It's always being used. What kind of parking lot for that day?

Yes. So all the lots are coming back to you with the intent of getting them in the parking ordinance, but also with proposed titles.

Link Cross did post a video saying, hey, this lot's available for parking. Yeah, which is good. So any extra work getting out there. So thank you to them for posting that to help share. Yes, that was good. Yeah, that was good.

so the parade thank you just pretty much touches based on the ones who attended uh who worked for the i thank the events committee but today yes i did thank the events committee then i thank the town employees which was bristol police department um bristol fire department for participating in full force they had a lot of a huge amount of vehicles in there which was nice and then highway department for participating in the parade and then um So are you good with that one?

Yeah, no, it was, it took over now. Yeah, yeah. Well, there was some delays, I get it, but.

It was funny, there was a tractor that broke down on the way there, so he was towed through the parade. Yeah. There was, oh, Jeff Chartier was driving an old truck that broke down over by, um. in the plumbing. So he got pushed off the road. And then Bob Christie broke down at Cumberland's and got pushed off the road.

That's where I was standing and saw that. Could you hear the DJ? We were in front of the thrift store. You could hear the DJ.

Yeah, OK. Because he wanted to get some remote speakers further away. I don't know if he can.

I can talk to him about it. Because we also mentioned that even at the fireworks, You couldn't, if you walked by the line, all of a sudden you could hear him. But if you were further down, there was no sound coming from him.

We're in the community center up North Main Street too.

And then there's a special thank you for the 4th of July fireworks in there.

Yeah, it was nice to see the town truck fire. I thought that was a good touch. Trevor? Yeah. He's so cute.

Oh my God, that kid is so cute. He's so cute.

All right, good. Inside scoop is off the list. We'll get that taken care of. Beach Street update. I have Mike Vignale and the attorney that's working on the easements finalizing them. Hopefully we'll have a better update by August 6th. Okay. um but that's been the delay and i'm going to reach back out and let um don't know where we're at beach updates so there's a picture i dropped in somewhere in your folders that we did so um our maintenance did some uh cleaning saw that um it looks really good but um a part of a property owner across the street is claiming that we cut her blueberry bushes, it's town property. So I'm not sure if you'll hear anything or if that person will reach out to us, but it is town property. It does look much better. It's cleaned up. So I just want to make sure you're aware of that. And then today a boat got loose and cut the swim line. We've contacted Apparently there was a wind storm at the lake.

Oh, there was no, there was steam operas that came through.

Yeah, so they, it got loose and it cut the, or damaged the swim line, so we've got in touch with the swim line provider and they're going to try to get out tomorrow to fix it. Right. Bike path there, I don't know if it made the picture, the bike path picture there in there. Yeah. They did clean, it is still, that spot is still running a little, but it's glowing like it's supposed to into the drain.

I think that spot is always going to run.

Yep, and they paved it and it looks really good. Bristol Hill Road, we did close down part of the road this past week, and days of running together, and ended up cutting open the road, the culvert, is quite a ways down and it's a culverted name only yes it's pretty much falling apart so we were able to add some riprap and gravel to hold it over we've had mike vignali come out mike vignali is suggesting instead of the one large culvert to do two 12 I'm not going to say 12. I think we've debated that. It may have changed. But to do two culverts instead, which we still handle the search, and we're replacing in-kind instead of one big one. Victor was thinking at first that they could do it, and now he's leaning towards he would prefer to hire out. So we're going to get a quote, and we may, depending on where it's at, we're going to try to get that done this year as well. We're thinking, using Jeff's quote, for the work we have done. if we have that same similar number to be able to do the work. I think that would be fine.

Originally, the concern was that we were going to have to replace the same size culvert, which would mean to get water to flow, we were going to have to dredge the whole downstream area, which would have involved a log stick excavator, obviously. And a big permit. Fortunately, and I ran into Victor afterwards, after the meeting, when he said that Mike thought it could be done under, in a different way, and done under a replacing kind permit, which is a lot easier.

And we've already told him to go ahead and submit that permit to the state, so we show all of them lined up to go.

And I agree. Mike says you can use 212s, and Victor and I talked, and probably enough going with 215s or 218s, just saying. Oh, instead of the 124. Instead of 124, yeah, 30-inch. Oh, 30-inch.

Which is in there now, which we only know that because... And it's going to be HDPE instead of this rusted, corrugated...

Correct. We only know what was there because... The neighbor, right? No, uh... I'm going to call him Old Man Morrison. He knew what was in there because he watched him put it in or helped him put it in or whatever it was back in the day. Because you can look from both sides from where the water is going under the rug, you can't see any pipe at all.

No. And when I was there, they had dug down quite a ways.

I actually thought it was an old box culvert.

Thanks for reminding me. you know what i'm talking about you're welcome i had to go work i had a meeting so um so i when i was there so they ended up hitting it with the tooth and a piece of metal came up yeah and when when trevor went to push the push down his shovel went right through the pipe

but you know but that will be a day downtown tree update we I did talk to you I think I talked to

Do you guys sense about the watering? I wanted to clarify, it was not my idea, but it was a great idea, and we set it up with Harold. Harold lives in the square, and Harold is, we've just put Harold at the transfer station, so we are paying him under the transfer station rate to water the trees Tuesdays and Fridays, and I've gone down, I brought down the hose, we set him up with a hose, he's got a place to store it, and I gave him directions on how to water them. So two days a week he's going to water the three small trees. They didn't cut the top like they were supposed to on the Christmas tree, so I'll remind them. But they did come out and treat, when they treated the Christmas tree, they treated both bushes, the ones that hadn't had a problem and the ones that did. They do not think that The ones that did will come back this year. I mean, take a year for them to come back. But he said it was saw flies. Saw flies. That were eating the bushes. Saw flies. I don't know. I sent it to you. So you can Google it.

Clearly, I get a vision of like. I have my doubts, but that's fine. So you treated it.

I know because we found the...

I got a picture of it.

We found the moth or the worm.

Caterpillar.

Caterpillar there. So we've set up the arrangement and then the highway department is watering the trees at Kelly Park. The new trees there because they were finding the same thing was happening. Property discussion. We went to... Two of the three tax-seeded properties last week, we posted them. The Pine Street property is a key property. It's going to need some work, and they have a lot of personal stuff with the property. So we'll start the process of contacting them and giving them first rights of refusal if you'd like, so we could get that property put back on. i won't say that yeah so then the second one we went to we were already getting people calling about on fourth street two different people called interested in it it's if we don't do something with that soon My recommendation is to flatten that thing with a backhoe, but there's a lot of personal property in it.

Yeah, it definitely needs to go on a dumpster. There's no question about it.

I don't think I put those pictures in. I walked in and I had to put my shirt over my face. The one I'm dealing with is similar situation. So I was literally walking around and like watching my feet where I'm walking down the hall. I was the only one who went down the hall, and those, I'll show you the pictures, I'll send you them, they were bad. Yeah. And then.

Is that what has is, a new moment to clean it up, or? Well, the.

We could. Or do we?

We could, yeah.

We're, I don't suggest we clean it, I suggest we. Well. If we do something with it. Clean it up as in clean that off.

We back it. No, as in clean that off the lot, yes. Yeah.

From a real estate world, the one I'm dealing with, it doesn't matter. It's not really a benefit to take.

So we could try to sell it as is. I know that the butter is interested in the property. I don't know if the butter is interested in it if we leave the trailer, but it's worth trying.

Well, we just reimburse our cost. Well, it's going to be sealed in. Yeah, I think we can agree on that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. But we're not going to accept anything less than what we have. Oh, right.

We would have reserved prices put on these based on what we, the taxes were, the fees were that we put into it. Those kind of, I would believe we can do that, so. The third property we decided to go out to, to check on is South Main Street in those pictures of the ones that are in your folder. Yeah.

awful yeah i didn't go in i wandered around the outside when i went to check it out so i went around the out um so we were trying to we

first the door was somebody had locked the door so we were trying to get in through front door and then i went around to the side and i'm like wait the back door is open never mind you couldn't have gotten through there if you wanted to and then you can't even see the rest of the property it's so overgrown right now yeah but there he's there's a lot of prop personal property yeah that's the issue um i do know where the person is but i don't have an address i'm still trying to track that down so if i my intent is to still find it yeah notify and try to sell otherwise we've got to sit on it yeah but we can if we notify and there's no response but we sell the personal property okay

Well, I know someone who's interested in the old truck that's there, so at least we got that.

There's a trailer, an animal trailer, I've noticed. So some of it, not that I would, there is something in the house, but... So we've secured them. We put no trespassing. The barricade that was blocking the driveway, the highway department needed back. I'm going to try to get another one because we really need to block that driveway. So there's no access down there. And there was some kind of animal. When I was walking down the driveway and Mike and Erin were further down, And I stopped because there was a really big animal crossing, and it must have went under the road through the culvert. And Mike and I are both like, he's like, it was big. I'm like, I know. I don't know what it was. So the other two will do the 30-day notice. We'll calculate costs. We'll offer them. first rights of refusal, and then we'll work on getting.

And then on the final one.

I've sent it to the attorney.

Okay, we're waiting on the eviction process.

I talked to him today and I forgot to ask him. There's two, I have two things outstanding from the attorney right now. One is short-term rental, and one is the eviction process, and I forgot to ask him today. So I will speak with him. And that's it that I can think of. all right was there any notification to that owner um yeah they were notified they were not we even notified them yet that it was needed because um but we did notify them it would be needed so they were given a deadline to pay or it would be deeded so the next steps are we have to notify them that we have to go through the eviction process but i've heard a rumor and i'll let you know that later so did you have a chance to follow up on that other property that we talked about after the last meeting yeah um it's yes yes um pd's involved okay

um and land use is involved now but um and there are cameras now all right all right select what items scott i will be on vacation for the next meeting everybody around me on the lake side for the fireworks

So that was cool.

They were like best ever fire comments on Facebook. Oh, yeah.

I did get that.

They definitely didn't see the Friends of the Fourth ones years ago.

So I apologize to everybody for the live feed. I'm like, and then I have to call.

Teenagers.

I have to call the police after. And then I have to go back and stream just the end. Yeah.

Yeah, no, it was a busy weekend. I was on the lake all Saturday, fortunate enough that our tape came out. It was busy out there. And then fireworks after. It was good vibes around town for the whole week. There was a lot of people in town.

Swim with a Mission went really well, I heard, too. What? Swim with a Mission went really well, I heard, too.

Yeah, I don't know how big the turnout was. Maybe we want to consider always having it after the fourth instead of on the fourth. Just a thought.

Well, Sunapee did the same thing. They had something Friday night and Saturday night, I think, down at Sunapee.

We could, I just know that Kona reported a 30% decrease in sales, which they were the only ones who actually gave me a percent decrease, but they had a 30%, but they love it, they're like, I know we had a 30%. We're not sure what to attribute that to, but we can't beat that view.

And there's opportunities. We have the power sources. I mean, I gave you that link for that new food truck. Yes.

This year was harder, too, to get food trucks because of the year.

She's posting a lot of... comments on, she's part of the Newfoundland community, so she posted on there.

Is that the, what's the name of it?

Linnies. What? Linnies.

Oh, they couldn't come because they were booked already. Oh, no, yeah, no, I agree. But they're coming to Old Home Day, so. Okay, great. They're coming to Old Home Day, and then another, we have a bunch of new vendors coming to Old Home Day this year, so. Yeah. I just have to issue their permits.

Um... No, I have one. I don't know if I'd bring it up in public. It's a Friday night thing, safety issue 138. I experienced personally, so.

Do you think that's a non-public item?

Might be.

I don't know.

I think we can handle it offline.

No, you can't.

Go ahead. I'm also going to be gone on the 6th. I'm flying back from Seattle that day.

So the three of you have to be here August 6th. Are you here?

When is my flight? No. Yeah. I'll be coming back from North Carolina.

Well, so you can move it if you want to move the meeting. Currently right now what you have is EDC, Discussion? We have Bruce Dormer coming in.

Yeah, I mean, I'm getting into Boston at like 4.15, so I don't know.

You're going to the sea.

I know, right? But it's okay, I'm going to see trees.

So do you want back-to-back and move it to the 13th? Will that work, August 13th? Yeah, I'm free that week. Yeah, I just want to make sure I'll still have three if we move six.

I'm going the 28th to the 6th. And then I'm going again the 23rd to the whatever that Friday is.

So 8-13 is the penny sale, though. I've got to be in Vegas that week. Do any of you attend a very good penny sale? I'm just making sure.

But I'll be on the 20th that Thursday. I'll be gone then also.

So everybody else is here at the time. So that's. Sorry. I mean, my daughter's birthday and she's coming from Florida, so I don't know if she'll be here that week or not, but I'll . She enjoys it. I can never come. She'll love it.

Love cupcakes. Yeah.

We'll bring the eagle. Yeah. Make her wear it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's your birthday, so you get to wear the eagle.

And she'll never come back to New Hampshire again.

She'll have an ego after that.

Okay, so we'll move August 6th to August 13th, and we'll keep August 20th right now.

Yeah, okay. So we're moving into August 13th.

Oh, I did miss something.

Sorry, go ahead. Please ask. He's asked Victor to get in touch with the state guys to clean up the, um, not read another stuff. That's why you're able to see it.

We have to flatten it with a backhoe.

Yeah, one way or another, because you can't see it.

Oh, along the whole fence line? Yeah. We usually do have it done, right?

Well, we do that, or does the state do that? I think we've done it. It's a state road.

It's a state road, but I think we've done it in the past, because it was blocking the . You can't, yeah.

If you're turning left there, it's really hard to see anything.

And that's coming from a couple different people. Well, maybe they can use the book. That might be easier.

I did get the survey. No, go ahead. I did get the survey on benches. I forgot to bring that, so I'll bring that to the 13th. Okay. Granted, the season's almost done, getting closer to being done, but I think it'll give us an idea on benches and tables what we want to do for next year. How's that?

Good, good. In preparation of some other things that we might want to do there, I'm wondering if there is anything in the highway budget for an invasive species report along that stretch from the park to the first road crossing.

Do you know roughly how much it would cost?

Six hundred dollars. Five to six hundred.

You do? I can look. I know he's had a lot more money on the backhoe. Yeah. But I might be able to find it there, and if not, you have your contingency.

We're going to have to deal with that if we do anything in there.

Yeah. So the basis, species report. Assessment, yeah. I did talk to someone about the sign and the flower. She told me what it was and that you can cut it back, but she recommended waiting until the end of the season to cut it back.

Well, someone trimmed it up. I wonder if she... What I was talking about was last year's growth. Yeah, because it never got trimmed back last year. Okay. Yeah, but you should do it every fall.

Every fall.

Yeah. I understand that the... And it's too bad we don't have it on the park anymore, but I understand that the new location is working out really well for the farmers market, for the open air market. And kudos to the Lions Club and the organizer and Bristol Village. to get that going and actually growing in size because they have more space. They have more space. Fantastic. Local buildings. Yeah, local buildings. And I had something else, but go. I have two more things. Go ahead.