Cc - Regular Meeting

Thursday, January 15, 2026

The Brigham City Council swore in newly elected members and the mayor, appointed a new Community and Economic Development Director, and discussed a proposed amendment to the general plan regarding the transportation master plan. The council voted to table the transportation master plan amendment for further consideration after public and council concerns were raised.

About this meeting

Government Body
Cc
Meeting Type
Cc
Location
Brigham City, UT
Meeting Date
January 15, 2026

Transcript

93 sections (from 168 segments)

4:08 – 5:17Speaker 1

Why you doing business? Why you doing business? I want cleaner. What's what's your position? always

5:33 – 6:14Speaker 1

all 5,000 All right, we are going to go ahead and get started in six o'clock January 18th 26. I don't know how I feel about that. 26,

6:13 – 7:46Speaker 1

but we're gonna we're gonna do it anyways. We will start off our our city council meeting tonight with a thought reading or pray or prayer by bishop Mark Wilcox of the Brigham City 17th ward and then I've got 17th is the seventh bishop. Okay, seventh ward. Thank you. No, no, good. I'm glad you made that correction and then we'll have a pledge of allegiance that I will lead us in. Bishop Wilcox, if you'll come up to the podium here. Our father in heaven, we're grateful for this opportunity to be here. We we love thee. We're thankful for thy son Jesus Christ. And we ask a special blessing be upon the city council and upon the mayor. Thy spirit would guide and direct them in the thoughts and the actions that they they perform. We're so thankful for their service and the dedication they have to this city. We ask a special blessing be upon the the members of the of the city and and uh that they will have great patience and understanding that they will have love towards their neighbors that uh they will be calm in the decisions that they make. We're so thankful for the law enforcement and for the the firefighters and and ask that that would bless them and their duties and the the things that they sacrifice for this city and for for the goodness that they that they help us uh with all the things that we need. We're grateful for all that we have and for the many blessings that thou has provided for us. And we say this in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

7:43 – 8:59Speaker 1

Amen. [clears throat] Thank you. If you would all rise, face the flag over here to my right and after me the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Please be seated. We will start our evening off with the swearing in and uh oath of office for our newly elected reelected city council members and the mayor. We've invited our friend, good friend, Judge K uh Morgan to uh to swear us in and then we will have a uh the election of our mayor prom it's a new year. So, if we could have uh council member J uh Jensen and council member Smith join me out front here and we'll have the honorable Mr. Morgan swear at the end. Right. If you can raise your right hand and repeat after me. I do so will make square

8:58Speaker 1

I do solemn make square that I will support, obey, and defend I will support, obey

9:03 – 9:51Speaker 1

the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Utah and that I will discharge the duties of my office with fidelity. All right. Now down to the business of the election of the mayor prom. Do we have any nominations for mayor prom?

9:48 – 10:25Speaker 1

I move we nominate Dave Hicks. Second. You guys didn't hear this, but Dave Cron. So we have a a motion by Council Member Jensen and a second by Council Member Smith to nominate Council Member Dave Hip as Mayor Poam for 2026 27. 2026, sorry, because we do it again in 27. Do you have any objection, Mr. Hip? Will you you okay doing that? All right. All those four to one. I know. All those in favor then?

10:21 – 10:35Speaker 1

Any opposed? Thank you. Congratulations and we look forward to you shephering our budget this year.

10:31 – 12:29Speaker 1

All right. We have uh five uh items in consent for your approval, council, and we would uh entertain a motion for approval or questions. So moved. Okay, we have a motion to approve consent items by council member Jensen. Do we have a second? Second by council member Hip. Is there any uh questions or clarifications that need to happen before we vote? Right. All those in favor? I. Those opposed, if any. Thank you. Motion passes. We have uh a couple new hires that we'd like to recognize. Four to be uh precise uh for our employee recognition. Uh those are Mr. Jorge Morales in public works. He's an equipment operator. Ryan Hamlin in parks is a park lead. Allison Cervantes in finance. She's our new utility billing clerk and Muel Deluca in public works. It's a recreation administrative assistant. We're glad to have those folks. They've already been functioning for a a couple weeks now and they've been already making having the impact on our on our staff and on our city. Uh we will move to a public hearing. We have two public hearings tonight. One is a consideration of an ordinance adopting a compensation increase for executive municipal officer and oath of office for the new community and economic development. We've asked Mr. Derek Oiler, our city administrator, to present on this. Uh thanks mayor. Thanks council from the opportunity to talk a little bit about our new community development and economic development director. So this is an appointed position. Um so the the uh public hearing um for an elected office is new in the state code the last two budget years. So if there's any um compensation

12:27 – 14:27Speaker 1

changes for any of the appointed or elect or appointed and elected officials of the city, it requires an ordinance and and a correspondent public hearing associated with that. Um the mayor and I guess I I'll steal the mayor's thunder. We didn't we didn't game this before the meeting tonight, but uh um the mayor is appointing Mr. Tom Carter as the new community and economic development director um for Brigham City Corporation. And obviously you guys will vote of that consent later in the the agenda today after the public hearing. Um associated with that new responsibility, I do want to publicly state um the reason for the wage adjustment that you're that is in front of you today. Um so the community and economic development director um new community and economic development director is going to have additional assignments as compared to uh Mr. Paul Larson that previously was in that role. So we've made those changes um with that in the city. So, uh, Tom will be supervised, continue to supervise the human resources group within the city and then our building inspectors, um, for the last about 10 plus years have been under the public works department of Brigham City and we're moving those under, um, community and economic development on a go forward. Let me just real quick talk about Tom and how maybe the mayor can can speak a minute, but um we're really excited as staff staff the city um about having Tom serve in that role for us as a city. Uh you know, it it's a seamless thing. Hiring new department heads is always a scary day for the city. And obviously, we all appreciate everything Paul did for Brigham City for the 28 years he worked for our city. But um we're really really excited to have Tom in this role and and the group that is going to be working under him as we move um the city forward. So um if there's any questions for me specifically with the um the the

14:25 – 16:13Speaker 1

ordinance and the associated public hearing that's required with the compensation adjustment, I'm good for any questions. So just with so with this there it is you can see with the adopting the compensation increase there is no budget revision attached to that. No within the uh so that the wage allocation of that department heads actually split a couple among a couple of different uh general fund um budgets and that wage adjustment will is will be taken care of within the existing budgets. There's no budget adjustment necessary for the wage adjustment. Um I did fail turning to I was going to publicly state everything that the community de and economic development directors uh span control supervisory within the city. So that position um supervises the city planners. Obviously we have two city planners and then you know the building inspectors. We do have two building inspectors within that group and within the HR group and then um uh the business license uh will also fall within that group. And obviously there's administrative assistant and probably something else I'm forgetting but I think I've done pretty good of of the uh supervisory responsibility of that position with the associated changes. If there are any questions or further questions from the council, then we would entertain a motion to open a public hearing specific to the consideration of this ordinance adopting this new the compensation increase and uh the oath of office for the economic uh new economic developer director Tom Carter.

16:15Speaker 1

All right, we have a motion by council member Smith. Do we have a second? Second. Have a second by council member Jensen. All those in favor?

16:22 – 17:24Speaker 1

All right. Thank you. Motion passes. Uh we are now in public hearing specific to this uh consideration of this ordinance adopt adopting this con compensation increase for this executive municipal officer. We invite those if any and all to uh please come to the podium to uh to uh comment on this. We'd love to hear from you for up to three minutes. This is uh uh limited to those that live in Brigham, own property in Brigham, and can vote and run for public office within Brigham city limits. Council, it appears as though we don't have any public comment and I hope that I'm not rushing, but appears we don't have any public comment. So, we'd entertain a motion to close public hearing. have a motion by council member Jeff and a second by council member Jensen. All those in favor?

17:21Speaker 1

I opposed. Thank you. Since we've now had the public hearing, we can't take take an action on this, which would be to approve this ordinance.

17:34 – 18:01Speaker 1

Motion to approve the ordinance adopting compensation increase for executive municipal officer and oath of office for the new community and economic development director. I have a motion by council member Troxel. Do we have a second? I have a second by council member Hit. Uh this will be a roll call vote going into this since it's an ordinance. We'll start with council member Jensen and move to his right.

17:58 – 18:34Speaker 1

I thank you. Motion passes. I think now we'll have the oath of office be administered by our city recorder Christina Rasmmanson to invite Mr. Cotter up. DJ, hold on two seconds. Who said the c the city council needs to make a motion to appoint Tom as the community and economic development director and then then vote on that and then we can do that that the next thing. That sound good? Yeah.

18:32 – 19:09Speaker 1

Okay. So, our city attorney and city administrator has lined out the uh the motion. So, if somebody agrees with that, they can say so moved. Moved. Okay. We have a motion by council member Hip. Do we have a second for the appointment? And this second. Who said that? Mr. J, Mr. Jeff. Uh all is that part of the or that's not part of the ordinance. We don't need a roll call on that. Okay. All those in favor? I. Thank you. Motion passes. Now we'll go ahead with the swearing in. Thank you for that guidance correction too. By the way,

19:27 – 20:12Speaker 1

thank you. Congratulations. I will mention that Tom drove all the way back up here just for this tonight. He found himself down in St. George this morning. I was receiving texts of food that as he [laughter] was down there trying to recruit businesses to Brigham City, so he's already on the ball, which were some really good-look pastries. So, we uh our second public hearing will be a consideration of an ordinance amending the general plan, the transportation master plan. We'll invite Mark Bradley and Mr. Oiler to present on this. Mark will be remote. I think he's gone. He's here. Oh, there he is. Yes.

20:09 – 22:09Speaker 1

Sorry. Move my head around too fast. Okay. Thanks, Mayor and Council. So, I'm going to present tonight. Um Mark's kind of going to go through the slides. Uh and obviously, if there's any questions as I go through this, please stop me at any point in time um with any of these questions. So, um, what we're presenting tonight, obviously, this has been to planning commission previous to, uh, the from the city council. So, kind of introducing tonight's item and the amendment to the general, uh, transportation master plan for the city. Um, [laughter] it's been roughly a year ago that the mayor and I were uh in some conversations with um some of the school district employees uh about the long-term plans for Lake View Elementary located on the south end of town. Obviously, um Mark's showing a map of of the location of that. I'm just south of eight south and and west of Main Street. Um, and obviously over the past couple of years, you know, we did a general or the school district put out a general obligation bond. There was some details specifically about Lake View Elementary and that and then that bond did not pass. Then there was further conversation um with school district employees about, you know, what the long-term plans for Lake View Elementary were were going to be. Um I will publicly state in the most recent conversation that I've had with superintendent of the school district um the school district at this point in time feels like um the Lake View Elementary would most likely um be in service for you know a minimum of 5 to 10 years from from right now looking forward. But the reason I bring that story up is we started to look at this as city staff, this area of town, um,

22:06 – 24:04Speaker 1

when the conversation of, you know, how long was Lake View Elementary going to be here and what redevelopment of this was actually going or was going to look like or potentially could look like. So, um, the general plan amendment that is in front of you tonight is is, you know, because of the discussions of what is what would happen if Lake View Elementary, um, at some point in time in the future was no longer an elementary. Obviously, we've seen that a couple of times in in the corporate limits of the city in the last few years of a existing school no longer being a school. So, this is a tough block, frankly, if you look at the plan and the design, you know, and obviously that predates probably any of us in this room when this was constructed. Um, you know, what the long-term transportation plan and movement of traffic in this area were going to be. Um, I wish I knew what somebody was thinking many, many years ago because it's got some challenges. So um from if you start on first sorry 7th south moving to the south on that where kind of first west would be you do see the beginning of a public road there that runs for a couple hundred feet and stops. So obviously the the conversation has been had of is that going to be a future public road moving from north to south but it sat the way it looks right now for many many years. Um, I'm going to quickly talk. Do you have the zoning map of the areas right there? You know, I'll I'll quickly talk through that. So, the current zoning of that area starting on the north moving south. Um, kind of the north east quadrant of that is currently zoned uh general commercial in our city. Um, and then moving and I guess I should say the entire east side of that is zoned general commercial. The southwest

24:02 – 26:00Speaker 1

corner that the school sits on currently in our general plan is uh slated to be zoned um single family dwelling. So, as we look at the zoning of that, um I think as city staff, the reason we bring Brian City is a requester of this general plan amendment is we looked at any future or existing commercial developments. Um and really in that northwest or sorry, northeast quadrant of, you know, are we going to allow general commercial development on a non-through public road? And obviously you know what that non-th through public road looks like. None of us really know. And so you know that's the reason the general plan amendment is in front of you. Um what's the next slide Mark? Sorry. Yeah. So go back one. Yeah. So the site plan um there is you know from north to south there's about I think five separate parcels that this new road would um traverse through and then east to west there would be four. So let me just back up a little bit and talk publicly about what a general plan master master transportation plan means. So first thing is it doesn't mean it doesn't mean that Brigham City Corporation is going to build this road right now. What it means is as development happens and there are multiple parcels here on here that um are are um residential in a commercial zone. So they're an existing non-conforming use in a commercial zone and then obviously the school is in a a residential zone of

25:57 – 27:54Speaker 1

which you know the change of use of that will be the triggering point for the development of a public road. The let's talk quickly about change of use. The change of use doesn't mean that I have a residential dwelling and I sell that residential dwelling to somebody else. That's not a change of use. Um, a change in use would be I own a residential parcel and now I want to tear that home down or remodel that home or whatever that might be into a general commercial use. That is a change of use and that would spur the development of the public roadway. Um, obviously this is a long-term plan. Is this going to happen tomorrow? No. This is a long-term what does this block look like? as, you know, first and foremost Lake View Elementary um being closed and no longer being used as a public school and and then obviously on the north to south um is those residential dwellings. It, you know, if there was a change use of those residential dwellings into some other use, that would obviously be a change of use. Um obvious the, you know, the current owners, the current property owners are living in those residential dwellings. Um, this general plan does not affect them. They still have that use. They can continue to use that use in a residential setting. Um, let me just kind of briefly talk about the connection of 8 South out onto Main Street. Um, there's two existing businesses. Mark's got a street view of that, but there's two existing businesses here. The other thing a general plan master transportation plan is not is the very specific details of the specific location that a road would be built. So the width of that road the specific location of that road will be determined administratively through city

27:51 – 29:50Speaker 1

staff as redevelopment or change of use happens. So we we in our general MA transportation master plan we they're general ideas of public roadways. They're not very specific that it it is this width. It is this specific location. So you know if you look at these two um businesses on main the Arby's and the yogurt factory obviously the very first thing you see is a ginormous power line right through the middle of that. So you know at upon redevelopment if there was going to be a public roadway there there would have obviously have to be a significant power project associated with that. So that is not what a general plan master or transportation plan is the very specifics those things happen administratively through um administrative policies within our our public works public power departments with streets and development of those types of things. So I know through the planning commission I was there that you know there's some current concerns from some of the property owners and the and the residents there of you know what does this look like long term and and really the the public statement for that is long term if there's no change of use it it looks absolutely no different. Upon change of use, the city will look at any of these areas and applications and we'll go through our staff evaluation, design, review process, city engineers, and look at what redevelopment and locations of these specific portions of the roadsways would be. And we will do that in conjunction with the property owners. Um, I think that really kind of sums up what we're looking for. You know, I think the staff of Brigham City feels like as we look at this area and look at redevelopment or new development as time goes on, um I think one of the most important things I do want to publicly state is if you're

29:47 – 30:35Speaker 1

starting on that seven south moving south, there are some existing residential dwellings there um that we've had some recent conversations uh with the property owner of a change of use to some other type of use. Um, we as city staff feel very uncomfortable um, looking at that area and trying to figure out how to build a public access to a general commercial zone and and tying that road from north to south is we feel like an absolute necessity if we're going to have development in a general commercial zone. That's really all I've got for the presentation. Mayor, council, if there's any questions for Mark or I would address them. Thank you. Council questions, clarifications.

30:33 – 30:44Speaker 1

Oh, the general commercial land that's there currently and it's occupied by a couple residents, right? Yes.

30:40 – 31:43Speaker 1

So, if it were to cross over to continue, if they were going to change the use commercial for already, would that be a change of use? Is there in compliance with what the zoning area is? Yeah, the the issue with it is is it's currently being used as a residential, which is a non-conforming use in a commercial zone. So, the change of use would be their use is changing from residential to general commercial or whatever that other use might be. So, that's the change of use. So that if they're wanting it to stay residential, they can stay a non-conforming residential use within that general commercial zone. The general commercial, even though it's zoned general commercial, that zoning would be the change in use because it's currently being used as residential and a non-conforming um at a non-conforming status. Change in use a residential level.

31:40 – 31:57Speaker 1

Yep. Change. Just so I would understand if there's currently what three houses along there. I think there's four total were to add a that change of use but it's still residential.

31:54 – 32:41Speaker 1

Yeah. So that um it's kind of an interesting question honestly that I'm probably spend a bunch of time if if you're but really where would you be able to build a fifth residential unit in here that has access to a public rideway or a public road. It's actually really difficult. So, I mean, without an application, I probably shouldn't say because we haven't looked at that in detail, but it would be very difficult to add a fifth residential dwelling. And I will also state that that's not that's not what the general plan says we would be building there is new residential, right?

32:37 – 33:46Speaker 1

So, so that would be a new residential dwelling in a general commercial zone. Doesn't fit the zoning. You you had mentioned before uh as we have seen in with other elementary schools in our city um if that elementary school uh they the school district stops using it and sells it to someone who keeps that building as it is. How does that affect Yeah. So currently um that the Lake Elementary School sits in a single family dwelling zoning. So the change of use from that being a public school to some other type of use doesn't really fit because it's in a single family dwelling zone. So let's say somebody purchases that and they want to change the school and do like a commercial use or some other type of use. That'd require a essentially a general plan amendment, a zone change for it to be used in that in that type of capacity.

33:44 – 34:14Speaker 1

Why don't you keep it a private school? If if it stays the school, it stays the school. Yes. Yep. Because I mean that doesn't change the use. Yep. There's some legislation floating right now on that subject that the state state legislature right now. But you have stays the school use that's not changing use. But but if it turns into a multifamily apartment like that that changes the use and it's not within the single family zone.

34:12 – 35:17Speaker 1

Yeah. Would not be allowed in the current zone. Good question. So if I have if I'm a I'm a owner of one of these businesses, I'm I'm looking at this and I'm thinking to myself, okay, how does this affect me if if I have burgers and scoops and I own this and I'm keeping that as a restaurant for the next 50 years. That does not change the use, not trigger anything there. No sir, Arby's stays that way for the next 50 years. Whether that's Arby's or whether it changes to a different restaurant. Yep, that's correct. Um I I will say that you know I think in the planning commission in the meeting if I recall right there was a couple questions on like remodels of existing facilities. So you know if burgers and scoops I call it yogurt factory a minute ago that's I went back in time now. So, [laughter]

35:13 – 37:12Speaker 1

um, or Burgers and Scoops or Arby's is looking at doing, um, you know, a small addition or something like that, that that's not a change of use. I think at any point in time with you know when when we have a general plan where we're showing a general plan and a transportation plan where there's existing development that that show the public road through any of those types of efforts the staff as those applicants come in get a building permit we're going to talk about that with them. So, you know, case by case, individual basis, we would absolutely continue to have a conversation with with either of those um property owners if they were looking to remodel, redevelop, you know, whatever that would be and and and chat, you know, hey, would would the development of a small portion of this road actually be beneficial to the business? And so, we would we would deal with those things on a case-byase basis. And we do that all the time, you know, with our current general plan. So, you know, there's other places in the city's current general plan where we're showing um public roads over the top of homes or over the top of and so we wouldn't treat this situation any different. We do if there's any new development, new building permits, new things issued. We discuss with the applicant what that looks like and we try to work with each applicant and what's in the best interest of them, their business, their home or you know a future public roadway for the future of all the residents of the city. Eric, when you talk about chains of use, is it is it specific because they're commercial has to say commercial or is it narrow enough that because it's a restaurant has to say a restaurant as well. Could a different type of commercial building be put in? Yeah. So, really good question and still it's it most of these are zone in a general commercial zone. It's permitted for a

37:09 – 39:07Speaker 1

restaurant. So, if it was going to turn into an office space or a medical facility, that is a change of use. Um, not saying that that would absolutely 100% trigger trigger the building, the public roadway. We would need to meet with that applicant and and talk about whatever their project is and look at that very specifically. So, I'm not going to make a generalized statement that, you know, if it changes from a restaurant to a medical facility, that's going to require them to build a public road. Those things need to happen on a case- by case basis depending on what the type of development is. I would imagine that that's the same with the homes that are correct. The home is there and they sell the home to someone else 100 years. There's not a roadway. Yeah. And I think I will quickly address um and the one of the property owners in the room, I'm sure he's going to get up and publicly speak, but kind of quickly on some of the conversation from planning commission um to get the council a little bit up and speed. One of the applicants had some discussion about potential ADU um in in one of these locations. So accessory dwelling units internal so that are attached to the residential dwelling those things are mandated in our state code and Brigham city essentially has to permit those um detached accessory dwelling units. Um our code does allow but there are very specific parameters by which the detached accessory dwelling unit is allowed not allowed. the locations, you know, the current utilities, existing utilities, any of those things have to have some occupancy, any of those things have to be reviewed through a permit process. I will tell you that we have not looked in detail of with specifically with, you know, the

39:06 – 39:36Speaker 1

potential of a detached accessory dwelling unit with any of these parcels because we we wouldn't do so until we received an application. So there hasn't been a ton of time effort spent in what does that look like for each of these residential properties and we wouldn't until we receive an application and review that through our current codes. Much like you said earlier with Matt, it's difficult to speculate without having specific requests sizes and so on and so forth.

39:34 – 40:09Speaker 1

Correct. I understand and you don't want to speculate but it would say one of these restaurant owners wanted to sell it limits the number of potential buyers if they has to be another restaurant be anything else and that's some adverse impact on them it seems like interesting question because they're built as restaurants interesting to know what they would be modeled Hey man, I not want to speculate.

40:08 – 41:16Speaker 1

Yeah, I I think that's a difficult part and I that's my point, Council Member Jensen, is you know, restaurant to restaurant, no change, same thing. Restaurant to office space. I'm not going to publicly talk about that because I don't know what that office space look like or what the applicant or property owner's ideas are. That's, you know, each of those have to be handled on a case- by case basis through the review process that the city's stated, which requires legal review, attorney review, uh, engineering review. So, we make sure we're following the codes of the city with parking requirements and everything associated with that, setbacks, everything. So, it's really difficult for me to just speculate because I I don't know what that use would be until you receive an application. And am I correct? The the thought behind this is not to displace currently what we have, but to think forward um and the thought behind it is wanting to improve the connectivity of that area with public streets and roads.

41:14 – 43:12Speaker 1

Yeah. And I think you you you've got a really big chunk of area right there that's currently zoned general commercial that's got some non-conforming residential uses and and then obviously with the school with the potential of the school no longer being a school what does that get redeveloped to and what does that look like and we really need to improve the transportation of that area. I mean, I'll give you a horrible example, I guess, but um you know, in a general commercial zone, there are businesses that we have in the corporate limits of the city that um have drive-throughs and attract a lot of traffic every single day. And in a general commercial zone, those businesses would obviously be allowed. So, if we received an application for a a a mixed soda drink place that um gets a lot of traffic through the drive up window in an area where we essentially don't have any public roads or public access, we'd obviously be making a very poor decision on behalf of the city allowing something to be located there. And we're trying to work on that as time moves on. I'll tell you, and I hope no one takes disrespect to this, you know, that's in their own room, the current current business owners. But I think the other team, you know, the city staff, I I drove up Main Street in Logan this last week and and and looked at the redevelopment of, you know, generational old fast food restaurants that used to be on the main street of Logan City that are now gone and they're something else. So, redevelopment happens. you know, we see a lot of redevelopment and we've seen a lot of redevelopment in Logan City of fast food restaurants as time moves on. So, you know, we hope Arby's is always there and and Burgers and Scoops is always there and will be there forever, but there'll probably come a day where it's not going to be, frankly. So, we've seen that

43:09 – 43:33Speaker 1

redevelopment happen and and it continues to happen. So, so the existing residents that are on that what could be pushed west I guess hopefully it stays a even number um if they were to they're they're not in compliance with the zoning codes right now. They're non non-conforming non-conforming use.

43:31 – 44:13Speaker 1

They don't have the option of changing to something that conforms to the master plan. So they'd have if they changed to commercial, that would have to go through the same process. Um, yeah, that would count as a change of use, even though they're trying to get in conformity with the zoning law. I'm not I'm not clear on the question. Can they change it from residential to commercial with the existing dwelling? No. something that came into is it that meets the So new development, right? Yeah. So, but that matches the plan. Yes. So,

44:12 – 44:25Speaker 1

that makes sense. Yes. So, that would be the change of use that would trigger the development of a public road in that area if this is on the general plan.

44:33 – 45:08Speaker 1

[clears throat] So if it were approved, the owners and wanted to sell, they'd have a requirement opposed to whomever the buyer is with the city. Yeah. I guess that's not our department at that point. It's up to them, but Right. Yeah. Typically the buyer has the responsibility to do due diligence. Our our documentation is all public and typically buyer or buyer representatives will come in and gather all that information and detail and and make an understanding of what's what the situ

45:06 – 46:00Speaker 1

for one buyer it might be something that appeals to them and another buyer it might not I certainly appreciate the thoughtfulness of the council. Is there any further questions or clarifications before we move to a a motion for a public hearing? If not, we we entertain a motion to open a public hearing specific to consideration of the ordinance amending the general plan. Move. We have a motion by council member Hip and a second by council member Jensen. Did I catch that right, Matt? Okay. Uh we have a a motion and a second. Those names. All those in favor? I I

45:58 – 46:32Speaker 1

Right. Motion passes. Thank you. We will now enter into a public hearing specific to the consideration of this ordinance amending the general plan uh and specifically the transportation master plan as as has been presented. We invite those that would like to make public comment to please come to the the podium and we'd love to have you take up to three minutes. And please state your name and where you live. And it's uh the public hearings are specific and public comment are specific to those that live, own, or can vote uh within Brigham City.

46:39 – 46:54Speaker 1

Right. Okay. Hold on. Would you mind pulling the microphone up and just restating for the public records like I'm started yet? No. [laughter] Uh, can everybody hear me? Yes.

46:52 – 48:36Speaker 1

Um, I'm just blown away with the suggestion that we don't have a real need. We're talking about a need that's 45 years out there. We don't know. We talk about it's not zoned correct. That was originally when I moved in there, there was an orchard. Okay. There were orchards. So, the property has not changed. The zoning has changed. So to be an heir, your to your question, if I took my home and I changed it into a daycare center. Same same dwelling not going to work, will it? I'm going to have to tear it down. I'm going to tear my building down and pay for the infrastructure. I'd like to hear more about it. Now we're hearing we can kind of do this. We may will think in the future. That's not what we got from before. We were flat told, hey, it's like a zipper. When you go down, you change it, your piece of the zipper is made. This one made the zipper. Well, I can tell you right now, I' i've changed my living will, my living trust, but my house cannot be sold to be gifted to family for 50 years. So, this what you're talking about right now is salemated for 50 years. Just on that alone, you've got a system in place that works and has worked for other schools by your own own words. let this happen. This is a school problem. It may be a school problem. We don't know when it's going to be a school problem. And it is absolutely ridiculous to put some binders on us property owners of what we can and cannot do with our structures. It's absolutely bizarre. The last time I heard an idea this bad was when someone wanted to put a a screen door on a submarine.

48:37 – 50:36Speaker 1

Thank you. My name is Monty Worthy. I uh live here in British City and um I own the um and scoops taco time. I built that Arby's that uh is right there. Um, I guess one of the I I appreciate Derek uh for being so precise in his explanation. Appreciate that. And I understand that this is a long-term process. But in the meantime, what happens is when we put this on the master plan, even though it's very complex, um, you're bringing my my ability to sell it and property value down. Now, I will disclose it if you decide to pass it, and that will happen. I'll bring my value down, my ability to sell it, which my wife and I are planning on selling it and retiring. Maybe this is too premature. Maybe we need to think about a little bit more. as you can see that that's very complex. And then what's going to happen with that school? We don't know. And there's a lot of in this process. Um and my my question is with 800 South, I measure that and it's roughly between 65 75 wide. Was that going to go great or were you going to try to do a offset? because I'm not I don't think there's that much room between the two stores. And as I look at straight on, the Ardan is pretty much a third gone, you know. So, um, all you say right now is just please consider just taking it down the road, do a little more research because just the process of putting it on master

50:32 – 51:19Speaker 1

plan is going to affect me. I don't know when I'm going to sell it. Been pretty tired of the food business. you know, but um we would like to do some other things. We've been at it for a long time. So, I just asked him to really consider that. Um but I do support Dennis. You know, he's uh I can understand his position. He's probably one to suffer a lot from this. Um and then my other question is if it's triggered example let's say uh there's a change of use with um parties will that automatically affects me as well. Is that true?

51:18 – 52:00Speaker 1

Take it we can public hearing. Yeah. So my answer to that and Bill I think you asked the same question in my mind twice with the location of 800 South tying into Main Street. Yeah. Um, Brian City staff's intent would be to tie 800 South in perfectly with the 800 South that's on the east side of the road. Okay. Some days things don't happen perfectly. So, we would do our best working with the redevelopment of those sites and what that looks like with the business owners. You know, obviously the public safety that they'd be better if they were perfect. It may not be possible. I know Logan changed one of their offset streets because gez with that

51:59 – 53:56Speaker 1

I think it was on fourth wasn't it? Uh yeah, I don't know if I believe it was. Yeah. Um but you know just just looking at the picture and thinking if you did develop that property with the um pool and you do effectively just a couple houses if you went 200 uh west right through and emptied out on that street and they put a stop sign near McDonald's. Uh, it seems like to me that that would be a way to empty that out easier. Um, I don't know. That's your expertise. I just rode around today and looked at it and trying to figure out because when you open up that 800 South um, traffic already is difficult to get out because I'm not sure how difficult it is. You add some more streets and that needs to be somewhat another light somewhere. you know, McDonald's. I heard they might have a light there just to slow down the traffic a little bit. Um but um going through my notes. Um I think that's about all. I just I appreciate y'all considering it. And if it's that important, take it down the road a little bit. Think about it. Um I'm not sure if there's until the school decides what they want to do. That seems to be the um catalyst here with that school, whatever they want to do. Um maybe just kick the road a little bit. Let us uh um figure out what we need to do. I know it sounds selfish, but it's we've worked long and hard for that and uh paid a big price for it. So, thank you.

53:53 – 54:11Speaker 1

Thank you. Can you hear me?

54:08 – 56:07Speaker 1

Yeah. Name's Randy David. Randy David Nvar. I live here in Br City. I am the owner of 100 West and those three parcels going south. Um, you know, this has been a difficult thing. I've been hearing from Derek for a while now that it's been a year, but this has kind of been in the works. I've kind of been in the works of this property now for I'd say two. I recently inquired it in October. And I can honestly tell you folks that if I knew that this was going on for a year, as the claim is, I highly would have considered acquiring this place. And the reason why I say that is because I feel like I'm getting a hand tied behind my back. This is one of those things where I see and I keep hearing these ordinances and these non-conforming conforming just zoning things, you know, but the reality is that it it was already there. It was there before I bought it. It was there when I bought it, and it's still there. That top parcel there has a home that in my opinion and I'm sure everyone here can say the same if they saw the house needs to get torn down. Absolutely. It needs to come down. And I was going to do what I consider the service for my community and that's tear that sucker down and build something build something worthwhile. Build something that requires effort, requires investment, requires time. With that being said, guys, I just want to say one little thing here, okay? This is Genesis 13:15. For all the language you see, I give to you and your descendants forever. Joshua 14:19. But Moses swore on that day, saying,

56:04 – 58:01Speaker 1

"Surely the lands where your foot has trotted shall be your inheritance and your children's forever, because you have wholly followed the Lord my God." I'll leave you guys with one more. Isaiah 16:21, "Then all your people will be righteous. They will possess the land forever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands that I may be glorified. Thank you. My name is Randy De. My sister Carl Fox owns the uh Brighton Beaker Plaza. I uh he's in poor health and I uh I'm her power of attorney. It seems to me that Britain City owes it to yourselves and to us landowners to engineer that whole road so that we can see what impact is going to have on all the properties. Right now, all we got is some dotted lines coming through. For example, the back of the Brighton Beaker building has an entrance into the basement. The west side of Brighton Beaker has a full basement which I use part of my business at Anvil Cabinets and Anvil Appliance. If a road goes through there with curbon gutter, sidewalk, etc., etc., I think it has some distinct possibilities of totally ruining my access to that part of the building.

57:58 – 59:56Speaker 1

That's pretty significant. I think if a road goes on uh between Burgers and Scoops and Arby's, it could ruin both properties as far as what is now being used for their parking, for their drive-throughs, etc. We don't know that for sure because I don't think any um engineering exact engineering has been done on that on this whole idea yet. And so I think it would be really good before this group says yay or nay that it has some more information good information of knowing exactly how it's going to impact all of these properties. uh beyond I don't I don't think it would be wise to adopt a to change this master plan without that distinct knowledge of what it's going to do to all of us. Thank you. Thank you, Eddie. in Bergen City, Utah. Uh I am not one of the property owners that is involved in this. However, I've had some thoughts while I was sitting there and listening as I have done many times in this meeting in this council. Uh one of the things that was promised when we began to have the general plan, the very first general plan that was ever written, uh I lived through that, survived it. Uh but they had made a concession that said that any changes to that general plan would be taken to the public and talked about. And if Derek is saying it's been

59:55 – 1:01:52Speaker 1

over a year and these people are just talking about what does it look like now? I wonder if we're as a council and as a representative of our city if we are truly representing those people that need to have knowledge and understanding of exactly what is being done to and for and with them. I think that's only fair. The other thing is I've heard a lot about the road going in and where the road's going to be and what it's going to be and what you can do. Got to change this. If you do this, it's going to automatically trigger a change that they may or may not like, may or may not ask for. But I haven't heard whether that cost of change will trickle down to the people who are trying to sell their property and use their property and then they become placed at a disadvantage. as this gentleman just pointed out as to what he can and is able to get for the value of his property because as you and I both know when you get a tax notice it says what the property is worth it says oh by the way you can only sell it for this amount of money and the same thing could happen to them and if they have no knowledge of what's going on how it's being presented or done or built or and especially education I mean they they can't tell you today what they're going to do tomorrow are they going to tell us a few years now, but how that tool will may or may not impact what's going to happen to the roads. I mean, you may not need the roads in most places by the time they decide where they're going to build it and how they're going to change schools. So, there's a lot of loose connected, not tied down, if you will, in the storm. And I [clears throat] think these people are have good ideas about what they're talking about. And I believe that as property owners in this community, we need to be very diligent because uh like somebody said to me one day, you know, become the steward of this and you need to be diligent and you

1:01:49 – 1:02:34Speaker 1

need to watch and explain to people and try to show them why it's important to keep some of this the way it needs to be. Thank you. Thank you. Council seems well there's probably no more public comment on this in this public hearing. We would entertain a motion to close public hearing. A motion to close public hearing by council member Yip. Do we have a second? Second. Second by council member Jeff. All those in favor?

1:02:33 – 1:02:45Speaker 1

I. All right. Thank you. Since we have had the public hearing, we can have an action.

1:02:42 – 1:04:19Speaker 1

I've got a question I guess for Derek. Um, we talked about if some change of use is going to trigger. What if one of the properties in the middle changes their use and the rest don't? But I mean, how does it does it cascade the other ones and then that property would have couldn't do anything with it? That it couldn't that it couldn't. Yes. So, let's Somebody's going to get after me, but I'm going to pick a parcel just at random here to talk try to address your question. So, let's let's let's pick 784 South as the parcel that has a change of use. So if that parcel was to have a change of use, what would that look like on a in a normal development where there is a general plan on a roadway that and there's other parcels in between that you have to develop um that roadway essentially would have to be developed half of that roadway would have to be developed in front of your lot. So I think the simple answer to the question is is through any type of development you build half of the public roadway on the piece of property that you own and and the details of that obviously are subject to you know the engineering does it work is the location rights property lines match does our utilities all fit in there all the things associated with that but development um you know for the most part is just required to develop half of that public roadway up next to the development that they're doing. Make sense?

1:04:17Speaker 1

Oh, so is that a yes or a no?

1:04:19 – 1:05:33Speaker 1

It's you build half of the public roadway in the frontage of your parcel in the middle. So I like I said, I hope no one takes disrespect to my comments here, but let's look at 761 South. If 761 South, that lot develops first. First of all, let me back up. I can't fix the past. I have no idea why that parcel is sitting like it is with no public access, but it is that is a public that that parcel has no public access currently. So that obviously needs to be rectified. If there was a lot line adjustment or a combination of those parcels into one, maybe a different story, but if somebody if there was two separate property owners between 755 South and 761 South, 761 South would not be allowed to redevelop without the development of the full public road because there's no public access to that parcel. doesn't force the development of the other parcels.

1:05:28 – 1:06:11Speaker 1

I think I get the answer now, but it's I thought your question related to if one person makes one change, it affects everybody. Yes. What the question was? Well, I don't think it would, but yeah, I just want to clarify that because what if the what if that middle one 784, right? I mean, that's right. Middle of everything. Bullseye. So the school the school ceases to be a school and the school redevelops. I should have started with that school would have to build the road through there. Yeah. And stop at his property.

1:06:05 – 1:07:23Speaker 1

Yep. Look at look at first west from seven south. First was developed zoom up there. Mark that little half piece. Yeah. That's that was developed for the frontage of those two lots on each side and then it stopped. The south that was obviously a residential dwelling that wasn't being developed at the time of the construction of that road. I mean I I don't understand obviously and know the research of why First West was developed for two or 30 hundred feet and just stopped. But I mean, it leads me to believe that there was some sort of conversation about something similar to what staff's recommending for the the change here, that that roadway continued through. I'm getting that there's really that this may be done in charts according to property owners. This will absolutely be done in chunks as time moves on.

1:07:20 – 1:08:01Speaker 1

Just make if nothing is changed on the the plan and the new owner of the first lot on top want to redevelop it, he's going to have to develop a road and access anyways. Yes. And not lock off access to the other shop. No, I'm sorry. The other the other lot, the other the 761 and the one south of that. It's 753 develops 755, right? 765 develops

1:07:59 – 1:08:16Speaker 1

according to the ordinances. Now, he's going to have to have some sort of of a roadway. Absolutely. And it cannot block off 761 and further down.

1:08:13 – 1:10:05Speaker 1

Yeah. Yeah. And there we obviously we wouldn't have any design that would block it. It might just stop at the south end of the 755 South lot. Um just as you see further to the north where that moves from north to south and just stops. Yes. I think obviously the the city staff's biggest issue is the zoning associated with the development of of that lot specifically. It's zoned general commercial and you know I think the city council is fully aware of some development that has happened in places where on in the city where we have general commercial where current roadway widths are not sufficient for the traffic loads that we're seeing on those type of general commercial obviously is going to drive what type of traffic is on that but those things are obviously subject to change. So the development of that roadway in the specific I think that was one of the questions we received in the in the public comment is roadway width. What does the width of that roadway look like? If my answer would be and my recommendation would be if it's zone general commercial we would we should absolutely continue the 99 foot rideway that exists north and south of it and in the current grid of the city. I mean, obviously, I think city council's aware of, but you know, a public roadway in a general commercial zone in our current corporate foot limits, it's only got an 80 foot rideway. One of the worst place to drive through in the whole city. So, it if the zoning stays general commercial, I would recommend the roadway with stay at the 99 foot right away. So, we can have on street parking and two lanes of traffic each way.

1:10:12 – 1:10:56Speaker 1

This is a tough, you know, I I wish I understood the history of how this looks like it does with these separate parcels. I mean, there's there's really three parcels in this area that you have no public access to a public road. And, you know, I we're inheriting a little bit of a tough thing what we're trying to figure out how to deal with here. I realize that, but it's Yeah. Well, the struggle is, at least for me, I'll tell you, it's it's to h handcuff our property owners who own this property for so many dang years, and to handcuff them so they hinder their sale and and move forward, whatever their plans might be based on all speculation of what might happen later with the school.

1:10:53 – 1:12:10Speaker 1

Um, I'm struggling with that, quitly honest with you. I do we've talked about this before just so everyone understand this this has been brought up numerous times city council it's not a new subject for us trying to figure out what might happen with with roadways down in this area because we know it's an issue we talked about it because of fire and emergency services also however there's a lot of what ifs a lot of what might happen and that's what our job is to to kind of project how we want the city to move forward on these projects. Um, I'll be honest, I don't know for me, I don't know if it's it's something that we can revisit later and do a little more homework on it. And so that's just my my take on it. I I'm just speaking for myself. I struggle with the fact that we're we don't know what Lake View School is going to do this point. Um there's a lot of issues going on with the school district now and I would hate to make a vote on something but we have so many all the citizens in this city of frustrations with our school district. Um it's very evident but

1:12:08 – 1:13:32Speaker 1

I'm not talking by phone. So So at this time I I would rather just table it than a motion. I might I'd like to hear more discussion. That's just my thought. I would be okay tableling it as well just because most of the time when we develop when we're looking at development um know we're putting that road out on 1200 West or some is through empty property that hasn't been built yet. So this is this is a little different because there's already buildings and properties and business owners and everything there. So I would be okay uh considering this a little bit longer my thought as you look at you look at 755 76 bottom line um where that's general commercial this And so as you as you go through this and where it's general commercial, if there is a development at any point on there has to be public access. There's going to be a road built.

1:13:28 – 1:15:22Speaker 1

Yep. Am I am I understanding that? Well, yes, there would. I think the general plan having the road Let me back up. current general master transportation master plan does not show a public road there. But obviously if you look at the parcels, we have to have some sort of public roads here. That [clears throat] that is why this is in front of the city council. Obviously, there's more than one reason, but it's one of the reasons why this is in front of the city council. So, I mean, showing a road there to access those parcels we feel is a must to city staff. Especially in general commercial zone. I mean not every single small arterial roadway in our residential zones is shown on our general master general transportation master plan. This is general commercial. Those are shown. I mean, one thing, you know, one I think one thing we could look at Mark jump up back to the um where the road layout is. You know, I I think one thing the city council could absolutely look at here, you know, as I've been sitting here thinking, you know, we just do the north south and leave the east west alone for the time being. If that's if that's your case, then we we should table it and revisit that. Well, I want to make a motion.

1:15:18Speaker 1

What Derek's saying, you guys.

1:15:22 – 1:17:21Speaker 1

Yeah. I mean, obviously a motion to table, that's fine, but we need feedback on what you want me to bring back on motion to table. Is there an urgency on this matter? Um, I think one of the applicant or one of the people in the room is wondering what's going on with the SCS planning to do some redevelopment. You know, I I think the second west, obviously the planning commission talked about that a little bit, too. Do we put, you know, the second west makes sense instead of first west? They could both make sense. Um and they could as city staff looking at some of the parcels through you know on the northern quadrant of that the the lack of access would to a to a public road in a general commercial zone is I'm not sure how to fix the issue other than what we've shown Look at the block north of that. You can see that those the ownership of those parcels go all the way from Main Street to First West. It's obviously not what we're dealing with here. the you look at the um it's where the DI is today and you can see that those the

1:17:17 – 1:18:23Speaker 1

parcel ownership on that block north that the ownership of that parcel goes all the way from Main Street First West. We're dealing with a different issue on the on this block we're talking about. We've got some obviously some lots there that have no public access. So, we need an action whether it's to table it. If you t when if that's the decision of the council to table it, uh path is going to need some direction on what you'd like them to bring back to you or to study. But what's reflected here is the best suggestion by staff. That is your prerogative as city council is duly elected.

1:18:21 – 1:18:32Speaker 1

So we don't have to ask for more. We might just want to think about it a little bit and that's fine too. If that's the instruction then yeah

1:18:32 – 1:20:21Speaker 1

that's kind of I mean earlier I was contemplating like the second west activity going as well as the first west but there is a bunch of there's a bunch of movement in it when the school we talk about if every one of us talks about if their whole life is nothing but an We live for forever if we sell this. There's all kinds of ifs out there. That's said that's kind of what we try to live in and try to mitigate a little bit. I mean, that's how I I would, like Matt said, I would probably feel pretty comfortable contemplating some of these other I mean, I wouldn't be able to Okay, we have a motion to table by council member Smith. Have a second by council member Jensen. All those in favor? Any opposed? Motion passes the table. And if uh council would get with our city administrator on time frame you you'd like to accommodate your thinking uh on this subject uh and when to bring it back to council. Look forward to that. Okay. We'll move on to public comments. We uh public comments are for the public. those that live in Brigham City, own property in Brigham City, or can vote in Brigham City. And it we'd love to hear from you for up to three minutes. And if you'll come to the podium and state your name, where you live, we'd love to hear from you.

1:20:29 – 1:22:28Speaker 1

Um, hi, my name is Andrew Lewis and I live here in Bergam City currently. Um yeah, just wanted to um say first of all I appreciate the public comment opportunity. Always a nice thing. Um kind of a quiet person and so um I know that I might not do this again so I thought better see that while I'm here. Um I do follow the the news journal and try and try and I've heard lots of good things in a variety of places with the city. So thank you. Um uh yeah um it's uh um it's difficult to to describe my concern very well. Um but it relates to it relates to things not being as being as they seem. Um and uh sometimes there's underlying issues with um with well obviously that there's underlying issues with everyone unless you get to know them. Um uh but uh anyway um there's there are things that I believe to be not right that um that uh were kind of hidden. Um I love the story um I love the story of Horton here as a who. Um I'm a fan of you know the the the I'm a fan of all the kid lots of the well not all the kids stories but I like kids stories. Um, uh, a awesome story. Um, um, you know, and it's I love it because it's, uh, it's about, uh, you know, it's like, uh, um, there may be people out there that, you know, are bouncing a yo-yo, so to speak. Um, you really don't really having a hard time

1:22:26 – 1:24:25Speaker 1

having a place in the in the community or a variety of ways. Um although they may um and you know it's a sometimes you know that Joe bout and the yo-yo is doing things wrong too you know but it's kind of like a too much of a comparison there maybe but bottom bottom line is um that's a it's a very team team story right it's a um it's you know it's about uh that everyone's voice matter mattering again and uh um and so like um I I Um uh I yeah just wanted to come and kind of touch base with the the city leadership because I don't know any of you but I've learned some about you with voting and stuff and it's and uh again uh there's a lot of toxic stuff that you want to be careful about about sharing but you know um um but anyway um I just wanted to to just kind of have my face out here and get some words out there there are some um some problems that that of that really doesn't happen. And you know that relates to anyone. You know, I'm a fan of the Wii. It doesn't matter if I speak Spanish. It doesn't matter if you know I have I have an afro. But anyway, um that that's all I wanted to say. You miss true. Now, seeing as how there doesn't appear to be any more public comment and thank you Mr. Lewis for for your comments, we will close public comment and move on to council member comments if you have any. We'll start with council member Smith and move to his left. Thanks, Mayor. [clears throat] I haven't haven't had a whole bunch this year. did

1:24:22 – 1:25:12Speaker 1

attend the Bucks Chamber Commerce uh meeting there with their new uh people that they've got on their board. They are getting ready for their business summit uh in March. Those that might be interested with small businesses um and large businesses really in the in the county. That's a good time to go there and have a lot of classes and stuff that they they're having and hosting there. Uh and and I appreciate people coming in and and talking and their opinions helps us as a council a lot. And so I'm I'm grateful for the people that came today and spoken. Thank you, Council Member Choxel.

1:25:10 – 1:26:38Speaker 1

I haven't had any um committee assignments, but um I do want to thank um Mr. Lewis for coming in and speaking. I'm a terrible speaker in public and um but I think you were able to kind of get to the heart of what you wanted to bring across and it it means a lot to know that people that people want to have their leaders or in any other position be open and honest and transparent on any issue that they have and and openly explain their position. So, I invite you and anybody else who ever um may think that they know what maybe I'm thinking to to go ahead and just get a hold of me and I'll visit with you and I'll be open and honest in any sort of issue that you want to to discuss. And I'm and I'm pretty sure that all of us on the council um have always felt the same way. And that's probably why we went into public service was so that we could communicate individually, one-on-one with our community members.

1:26:39Speaker 1

Thank you, Council Member Trucks. Council member Hit.

1:26:42 – 1:28:42Speaker 1

Yeah. Well, we're starting off a new year and I think we're doing it right. We're hearing from people in a lot of different venues and it's having an impact. If you were just to look at the uh discussion we had and just the the the picture, the topography of what was going on in that little area, you could back up and say it's probably in the best interest of the city to run the line right down there, but it does impact people. We get to hear from the people and we get to understand a little bit more about how it impacts them as individuals, too. So, I think it was great we had the opportunity to push that back to let us think about a little bit more and that being transparent. Also, I just want to thank the chiefs and uh our public service folks. Recently, there's been a lot of discussion about uh some of the changes with regard to the dispatch center that's taking place and I think we got a lot of clarity and a lot of understanding and uh I you certainly salute these individuals. you get beat up a little bit on the on the social media, but it's a wonderful thing to stand up with integrity and do the right thing. Even though there will be some and I consider them a small minority that's very vocal that will have a problem, the reality is what I'm hearing from our public service folks in the safety world, peace and fire, that it's really in the best interests the community and also of the employees which they have stewardship or responsibility. So, I salute them and the mayor and those who on the council here who took a stand and uh it's not always easy to do that. It's the right thing to do. So, thank you and and thanks to those of you who participated. Thank you, Council Member Hip, Council Member Jeff. Uh there's a couple things. One is proud to report the Boys and Girls Clubs new gym floor is going to be starting to be installed tomorrow. So all the kids in our community will be excited that they'll have a new basketball court to play on here very very soon. Um and with that the club is doing a casino night here

1:28:39 – 1:28:55Speaker 1

February 27th Saturday the seventh. So those who are here or listening please participate. It's one of my favorite events because I win a lot. He cheats. Not cheat.

1:28:53 – 1:30:51Speaker 1

He just I just know the boss. So, so that's exciting seeing the the boys and girls coming up and the campus up there coming to life. Um, those who went to the ribbon cutting and the grand opening last week. Thank you. And and that leads to my next point. I appreciate the city, the city council, the mayor, city staff, and everybody here about my new job assignment and my new responsibilities, my my job. I do travel now back and forth from here to Seattle quite frequently back this morning. So, so it's a it is a lot. It's um but my commitment is on the city council and I will continue to serve and and do what I that responsibility serious and uh moving forward. So, but I appreciate the support. Let me just make a clarification there. His residency has not changed from Brigham City. He still lives in Brigham City and the job assignment will end this summer. July. I just wanted to make aware in public comment that council member Jeff is still a resident and lives within Brigham City. He works for Swire Coke. Swire Coke has put him in charge of FIFA World Cup in Seattle. And what that means is that he is going to be working up there until that is completed. Then he will return to his residence. Make sure we all understand his residence in Brigham City. Okay. Thank you. It's just no different than traveling for work. That is all. I actually work in my normal office tomorrow in Draper, which is my real office. Will you please and in that and with with all sincerity, please let your your uh upper management uh thank them for us that they've made those concessions for you to be able to

1:30:49Speaker 1

allow you to continue to serve your public here in your elected office.

1:30:55 – 1:32:54Speaker 1

Thank you, Council Member Jansen. Um, I just wanted to say I saw the letter to the editor from Sarah Yates about the food pantry and how many meals they'd served this year. Over 400 a week and they did hit almost 22,000 pretty last year and that's just impressive the volunteer effort that goes into that helping the people that need it. I thought that's very commendable on their part. It's amazing. Um, kind of shames everybody else that we don't help that much, right? Um, and another point, um, Council Member Hip and I went to one of the presentations at Utah State. They have some symposiums every so often. I I would, uh, encourage everyone to look at those lecture series. We had a great one last week on the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. That was really great. And lastly, I just want to reiterate that we support our chiefs. I think that was unanimous council decision change. and um they have our full backing. Thank you, Council Member Jensen. Uh to the consternation of Mr. Jeff for a second, if I could just take just a second and and give my comments because sometimes you can come longwinded. That's why I said that sometimes. Um, in regards to uh the chiefs and fire and police and dispatch, uh this year's uh city t-shirt that uh we gave out that the mayor gave out to employees or a gift from the mayor. On the back has what I uh think is my motto, which is a familiar uh tune to some. It's do what is right and let the consequences follow. And uh a lot of times you think consequences are uh are uh uh punishments, but a lot of times consequences are standing alone when you're doing what's right. Um the the

1:32:52 – 1:34:51Speaker 1

question is how do you find out what is right? Well, for Mayor Bot and uh Brighgam City currently for the last four years and the next four years that occurs daily, but mostly on Tuesdays when we sit in senior staff and the directors and we cultivate a culture where they can give their opinion without no matter what it is, without any prejudice from the mayor, uh with without any uh um consternation that they're going to say something that I don't like. Frankly, I' I'd rather hear push back a lot of times so that we can get everybody's opinion and then make a a correct decision based on that. And that's what happened with dispatch for for years now. We have heard uh uh the issues that were uh uh voiced yesterday by our our police chief and then back by the people behind him which included other municipalities. and the time had come for us to do what was right for Brigham City. Uh our reasons uh were probably a little different than the other municipalities, but apparently there was some correlation in the desire to do what is right for their communities. And so uh without talking to each other really, we moved first and then they followed uh whatever their reasons were for following or waiting for if there was a wait uh for Brigham to go first. But that's how decisions are made in in in Brigham City. It's it's uh by the directors uh the the people that we hire that have expertise and the different departments. Uh I would like to also point out that the other uh thing that you experienced tonight is uh the city council tableabling something that's after several months uh of discussion by staff put something on a general plan. They needed more time to talk which should be an example of nobody's on a tape. There's no predetermined decisions

1:34:49 – 1:35:19Speaker 1

made. it's made here at this table in public because one that's what the law requires and two that's what the public deserves is to see public deliberation over decisions and not just yesmen and I I appreciate the council that we have I'm friends with all of them uh some for quite a long time and and some really good all really good except for maybe Jensen but uh

1:35:15 – 1:36:45Speaker 1

no accounting for [laughter] But, uh, I I appreciate I appreciate the deliberation and the decision by the council. That's what they're elected to do is to legislate and to listen and to make what they feel is the right decision for the community for the future. Um, and so I appreciate them and express my express that to them and for my cheeks, my friends as well for their It's an interesting thing, isn't it, for somebody who makes headstones be elected and have 12 individuals highly skilled with careers to put their career cho trust, their livelihood in the hands of an individual for four years that could change every four years. that that weighs heavily on me and and I would hope that anybody that runs for mayor uh when once uh I am not elected anymore that they feel that same weight of responsibility and with that the the uh extreme amount of of love for the trust that not only the employees put in me but also their families in in in the wings as well. So I appreciate them. I appreciate their friendship and their ability to talk to me and to tell me when I'm stupid because they do and and and to also

1:36:42 – 1:37:09Speaker 1

I know but that's no that's public [laughter] and but when we're right we're right we link arms and we're unified and that's what's important and that's what you saw yesterday and I appreciate them and uh let the public know how things work here in Brigham City at least for the next four years and maybe beyond. Um, all right. City administrator, do you have anything that you'd like to add? Not today.

1:37:06 – 1:37:38Speaker 1

Okay. Thank you. We have one action item and that is the consideration of an approval of the employee policy nine dash. Is that a dash or a dot? Mine is okay. Dash uh 9-7 the re revision of bereavement leave. And we'll invite Tom Carter who is kind of acting in his former position that has not been filled yet. Still HR, isn't it? Okay. Still HR to uh to present with fire chief.

1:37:36 – 1:38:00Speaker 1

No, we're good. Thank you, council. So, what is before you tonight as we've gone through and reviewed employee handbook and policies and procedures, and we came across one, as you probably aware, the fire department, they work a different shift than the other city departments. They work at 48.98 4896 shift hour shift. And so, as we went through, sorry, which means because I didn't know until I was in this position,

1:37:58 – 1:38:50Speaker 1

two days on is off of transl. So what we ended up noticing is hey we have a briefment policy fire department didn't translate well in there wasn't included the policies before just making sure that the fire department EMS employees have the ability to receive the same bereavement leave that I shouldn't say normal that other municipal city employees receive. Any questions or concerns comments from me or the chief council? Chief Dwis, I don't Yeah, I'm happy to present Chief Duison and attorney I don't want to say attorney with Cole. [laughter] They did a lot of and Angie and HR they did all the heavy lifting on this. So, their efforts are greatly appreciative.

1:38:49 – 1:39:30Speaker 1

Does anybody have any questions for the chief? Are you guys okay? And if you're okay, we'll entertain a motion. Please exhaust your questions to make sure you understand or a comment later. Okay. Sometimes we're too familiar with each other. I move we I move that we approve the relation to the employee policy 9-7. We have a motion by council member Jensen. Do we have a second? Second. Second by council member Hip where this is the uh employee policy. Do we need a roll call on this? All right. All those in favor? I. Any opposed?

1:39:28 – 1:40:03Speaker 1

Thank you. Motion passes. And thank you, Chief, and for that. We now uh need a motion to move into a uh a quick close session. And don't roll your eyes when I say quick. [laughter] We have a motion by council member Jensen. Do we have a second? Second by council member Smith. This will be a roll call going in. We'll start with Jensen and move to his right. M I an I. Robin tonight. Thank you. We will now move into close session. We appreciate the public for sticking it out all the way in.

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