Fiscal Court - Regular Meeting

We will come to order. It is 9 AM.

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My IT guy is screaming, live, live. So welcome everyone to the August 25th, 2026, 9 a.m. Volcano Fiscal Court meeting. I ask that you all silence your phones or put them away during the meeting. And we will start our meeting today with our invocation by Magistrate Harmon.

Father, we thank you this morning for a time we could meet together and take care of the county's business, which is not about the county. It's about the people, people that live here we grew up with. We come to know. Father, we thank you for this time to do an honor unto you. What we do, let us say the things that glorify you and lift you up. And Lord, we pray for our community. We pray for all of our employees. And Lord, we pray especially for the rest of you today. that you be with him and his family as they heal from a great loss. Father, we love you. We thank you most of all for Jesus. In his name I pray. Amen. Amen.

Thank you, Master Harmon. Appreciate that. You're going to stay, aren't you? All right. This morning we have the honor of the Honorable Sheriff Taylor Bottom to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance. And your certificate will be forthcoming. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you very much. Appreciate your service. No picture? We don't have a picture. Thank you. You know how to spell my last name? Oh, next, starting next meeting, we will be back to our regular pledge with the students, and so we'll be back to normal by then, hopefully. All right, we have prior meeting minutes from August the 11th. I hope everyone's had an opportunity to review them, and I will ask for a motion to approve. I make a motion. Maastricht-Boger, second. Metric Sleeper, any discussion or comments on the prior meeting minutes? I looked over them, but I don't always catch everything, so. Everybody good? All right. All those in favor of the motion to approve the prior meeting minutes, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed nay? Motion carries. Thank you. Next, we have our budget transfers. Ms. Shannon?

I have a budget transfer of $8,268.10. Okay.

I move we approve the budget transfers.

Mr. Gay, is there a second?

Second.

Mr. Harmon, any discussion on budget transfers? Seeing none, all those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Motion carries. Cash transfers?

Okay.

I have a cash transfer. It's actually, we closed one of our CDs and transferred that to the interest bearing account. That was $331,099.55. And I have a transfer from the interest bearing to the general fund, $300,000. From the general fund to the jail, $75,000. From general fund to EMS, $75,000. From general fund to complete fund, $10,000.

Okay. Motion to approve cash transfers?

Make motion.

Measure. Cullen? Second. Second by Magistrate Ellis. Any discussion? Okay. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Motion carries. Thank you, ma'am. Next, we'll approve our bills.

Ms. Elena? Good morning. Good morning.

Good morning.

All right. Your all still packet totals $208,924.33. We need to add quarterly pest control to R&R's pest control business.

That's 670.

That includes the government services center, the new Stewart's Lane, both properties. It's got quite a few buildings in there. And the lowest payment for $75.56. Bringing your grant total to $209.39.89. Motion approved. Second.

I have a motion by Magistrate Hellman, a second by Magistrate Gay to approve the bills. Any discussion? There are a couple of, I believe, allocations. One is the helping hands for $3,000 on page two. And we did some painting at the Craig Cain building on page five. And we also had a payment to BFW Engineering for the TAP grant on page one. That's all that I had to recognize. Any other comments, questions on the bills? Okay. All those in favor of approving the bills, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed nay? Okay. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. All right. We have no old business, so we'll jump right into our new business. And we have a Extension District Director.

Jay, that spins Parker.

All right, all right, good deal. Got our board chair.

This is Spencer Gwinn, District Board Chair. Good morning everyone. Good morning. I appreciate you having us out here. It's hard to sit in a meeting and not feel like I'm supposed to vote along with you guys. Just go ahead and say hi. I'm here on behalf of the Boyle County Extension Board. I sit in as chair of that board and I'm here to report the property tax rate for 2026. So this year, what the board has elected to do is to set the real property tax rate at 0.079%. And the tangible personal property is 0.0951. Both of those classes are actually a reduction from where we were last year. We were able to do that for two years in a row to lower the tax burden and still conduct the business that we do for our community. So that's what we have for you today. And just to give you an idea for reference, last year that real number was 0.08. So we reduced it by 0.001. And then personal property was 0.0986. So that's just perspective there. Right. And those rates were the compensating rate.

Yeah. Okay. Is there a motion to approve the extension board tax rates? So moved. Mr. Ellis, seconded by Mr. Boehner. Any discussion? I will announce that I serve on that board and I did abstain from the motion made that night at the board meeting just so there wouldn't be any conflict of interest with tax rates and us being the county tax.

Did I see something on the animal auction coming up with kids?

Yes, I think that's September 13th.

Folks, if you've never been, please come. That's a lot of fun. Careful, don't raise your hand. September 10th. 5 o'clock.

All right. All those in favor of the motion to approve the Extension District tax rates for 2026 signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed nay? Motion carries.

Oh, and those of you who weren't in Lexington last week, A priest spoke to us, and he told us about an auction that he went to. And when they said $8, he raised his hand. And all of a sudden, he was spending $30,000 for two different animals. So if you come, be careful. Thank you, Jay. Thank you, Spencer.

Good to see you all. Have a great day. All right, moving forward, we have Volcano Library Director Colleen Stanley. Good morning.

Good morning. Welcome. Good morning.

Okay, we'll pass it around. That's okay. Thank you. Good morning, everybody.

Good morning. I have with me Linda Ross, who is the President of the District Board, and Michael Adams, who is the Director of the Story Center. Just to let you know who else is with me. As with the extension, I'm here to present the tax rates for this year. The library board elected on the 13th of August to take the compensating rates for the library which was 6.7 for real property and 7.31 for personal property and a post motor vehicle which is fixed at 3.5. So I have lots of other things to say, but that's the...

Okay. You want us to go ahead and take care of business first and then let you talk?

All right.

I need a motion to approve the Bull County Public Library taxing rates for 2026. I make a motion. Mr. Bowden, is there a second? Second. Mr.

Gay, any discussion? I know they do a whole lot in my little city that never was done before, and these ladies have really both helped me a lot, so I appreciate it.

They do a lot. If you watch Facebook, it is constant. There's always something going on at the library. All right. Any other discussion or comments?

I'd just like to thank you all for the vision of history that is in your large... display case, the Daughters of the American Revolution in honor of our 250th have a wonderful display there and I hope everybody will come by and take a look at it. It's a beautiful exhibit.

Right across from the circulation desk. Yes, yes. That was Peggy Ellis. It was beautiful.

Yeah, it's beautiful. Really neat. All right, all those in favor of approving the Volcano Library texting district tax rates for 2026, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed nay?

So you can see from the numbers here things are going well at the library. It's always hard to kind of reduce it to a format that's easy to digest. But visits are up, total visits are up. I think one of the biggest things that surprised me when I saw this were the two figures about programs attended at the library and programs attended in the community. They are nearly equal. In fact, the in the community is larger than the in the library amount, which is pretty amazing. That is largely due to both the Story Center and Outreach Department, which is small and mighty. So I'm very appreciative of them and all of the staff. Of course, our circulation continues to go up. The metric between physical and electronic is beginning to shift. So electronic does pull ahead of physical, but physical is very healthy. So we're grateful for all of that. So if you have any particular questions about that handout, I'm happy to answer them. I have other things to say though. So we're very excited about our work in Parable and Junction. We have unique partnerships because these partnerships were able to help those communities forward the things that they are interested in rather than what just what we might want to do. So we want to do what is best for them. So I want to report that we recently applied for the Hudson Ellis grant to be able to purchase books for the collection in Parable. It looks like they are, I'm not exactly sure where they are in the process, but it looks like they're on track for the spring or summer of next year. Is that what you think too? Yeah. That's what I think as far as I know. So I'm excited about that. And I know Junxin is right, we've been doing a lot of work with you all, but your community center project is a little bit in a different spot. Yes. But we're ready when you're ready. So we're very excited about that. We've also done a lot of cool programming out in the community, and I want to let you know that that art and nature programming painting program that takes place at the Wildlife Refuge, we're going to do that again in September with David Farmer. So that's September 19th if you're interested in that. The Story Center has been really great in engaging folks in remembering, recording, creating, and telling their stories across the county. So we're really, really proud of Maggie and the work of her team, and they've gone just everywhere. I mean, I can't think of a place I haven't been. I've spent a lot of time in the schools and working with other organizations, so we're very excited about that. We partner with both school systems, and we're very happy about that. That produced a large participation in our summer reading program, which as you know, helps with retention and overall achievement, student achievement, so we're really excited about that. I'm trying to keep it simple. One really exciting thing that happened recently is the library participates and helps lead the Boyle County Imagination Library group. And this recently, within the last two or three weeks, we got notified by the state that we've entered the 65% club, which means that we have over 65% enrollment of eligible kids in our county, which is really, really amazing. And that is a total group effort. That is not just the library, but that's just everybody who's invested in early childhood. And so to go along with that, I was able to participate this past year in the Governor's Office of Early Childhood program that was focused on early literacy with a whole bunch of people from Boyle and from Mercer who work together, our groups. And as a result of that, we identified early, early literacy from zero to two as a target for the whole community, which is the most difficult, honestly, because those kids are not involved in programs. They're often in homes, et cetera, et cetera, so it makes it more challenging. But the library is going to be doing program called baby steps which will be a four-week concentrated program for parents or caregivers with kids that age and then a monthly program for several and then we'll do another four-week intensive so each four-week intensive will have like a meal and lots of learning and community partners and things that we can give them we've received a grant from a local resident who's very supportive of early childhood and she gave us money to be able to do this, so we're very excited about that. We'll be starting this year. We also have started programming for, or leaned into programming for other audiences such as Our All Abilities Club, which is for adults with disabilities and also for teens, which we've been leaning into gradually, the outreach department, applied for and received a Lois Lenski grant, which is, again, a collection grant that they're going to use to buy books for middle schools, specifically, because we're going to support the big population while their library is under renovation. And it will be on the bookmobile in Sweetreads for anyone. I just wanted to say thank you for all the ways that you help us to do this work, and we're very appreciative of it. And we want to continue to strengthen the community and cultivate community of readers and expand access across the county. So if there are ways that you'd like us to do something particular, I hope you'll let us know.

Is there any news on the Story Center as it's about going forward?

It's our year to work on that. We are working on it. I don't have anything I can specifically report right now, but we're still really happy to be in Grayson's and grateful for the opportunity to be there, and it's a great location for the community and for us. Do you want to say anything?

My mother and my sister and I and my husband, John, go to the monthly meetings. My mother was sick this month, and I didn't get to go, but I've got it back. that we took real live flowers and we took hammers and you have 30 people in the room hammering and hitting these wet flowers and it made this cutest thing. Jeff said I ruined it. I put my name on it at the bottom. I thought, I want my name on it. Then I made a little pinch pot, a little thing for bees. I've made so many things and so many different people in the room. It's not one set of people, it's all of us and it's really been, it's been a wonderful night.

Well that's a good, that's a good facility.

Yeah, once our community center gets going, that'll really be good. Do you want to touch on the new project about the recipes? Maybe Maggie wants to talk about that.

So we have held history harvests in the past and our first history harvest was on family recipes where we encouraged members of the public to bring in your recipes and tell us stories about them because we know so much about recipes is about kind of the history behind them rather than the actual ingredients on the list. And right now we're partnering with Center College with Beth Morgan, the archivist there. And she has, it's called Cooking Up Community. And so it kind of continues that recipe harvest, that recipe history harvest rather. And she'll be putting it into a book this fall.

And people can bring in recipes to the Story Center and have them scanned.

Okay.

That was a genealogical society. That was a genealogical society. And the judge and I were there. That was fascinating.

So thank you. Thank you both. We appreciate all the work that you all do for our community.

We're very grateful for it.

Thanks so much. Appreciate you being here.

Thank you all so much. We appreciate it.

You all have a great day. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Next up, we have Great American Brass Band Festival Director, Michael Peros.

Greetings. Good morning. Greetings. Good morning. good to see you all today yeah we have been clay a couple of other board members myself judge bottom has been involved we've had a couple small meetings involved the city was involved representatives the mayor and Earl coffee have been a couple of meetings smaller personal meetings about some of the funding troubles that the brass band festival has had and as of this year because largely due to the rain. So we've had some major bills that we need help covered. And I'm here today to request our allocation upfront. instead of requesting in quarters in order to help pay this year's festival bills. And so we can start planning for next year. But right now we've got quite a few expenses to cover and most of it would have been covered on our own money. But with all the rain chances, we made a fraction of what we normally do. in terms of revenue for from the event itself we typically bring in somewhere in the range of about 30,000 in fundraising at the event itself and we lost at least 25 of that and all that can be due to you know if it didn't rain there was a heavy chance of rain and counting attendance we were down by on Thursday and Friday alone a couple at least a couple thousand folks and then Saturday of course we lost we lost approximately six or seven hours of programming and we were able to adjust and salvage some of the event for the rest of the day on Saturday but obviously with the complete monsoon it was it was a difficult position to be in Losing all that time losing all that programming and then you know ramming and then you know in the second half of the day people still came out but obviously it's not the numbers that that we're used to having and so we were left in a very difficult position and this came after a Dip in some sponsorships that were unexpected and happened fairly last minute for us and that was a difficult development for us as well we were able to exceed our former sponsorship budget by $40,000 or $50,000 every year in the last few years based on going out to get a few more majors. And we weren't able to secure that money this year after conversations of potential and even close to, hey, we're going to be able to commit to this money. And then just those conversations not panning through for us, unfortunately. you know i explained to um judge bottom the mayor as well that that most of our money that we spend most of our expenses are accounted by december and so the budget that we set we we base it on the prior year's numbers what we think is realistic and our budgeting process was very sound based on the numbers that we had achieved three years in a row and we were going off of those same numbers and not increasing actually in budget at all and with the loss of two sponsors we got we lost approximately 45 000 and that that's been difficult for us as you can imagine so um I'm here today to ask for the funding allocation for 2027's event up front to cover the 2026 bills and then obviously that remains leaves another question of what's going to happen for 27 which i think is part of our discussion today um and you know i'm here to answer any any questions that you may have in terms of money in terms of um what we plan on moving forward um and and just as some other background information you know i All of our hotels are filled up that weekend. If you drive by, the parking lots are completely full. People came for the event. The rooms are booked. I stayed in our newest hotel, actually, which was very nice, very nice state, but completely full. And so I think our benefactors here are tourism as well as all of our restaurants downtown. Copper and Oak was filled front to back. on Thursday night, even with food trucks on the parking lot. So there's a lot of opportunity with the Brass Band Festival that we continue to bring in, and it's evidenced by, again, the hotels that are coming in. With a free event, it's not always easy to keep track of attendance. But one of the numbers, a set of data we were able to collect this year was by a physical map, where people come in, they place their pins on the U.S. map of where they're from, and we had 130 pins placed on that map for last year. Obviously that's not everybody that's there, but of the 130 people that participated in that map, only 22 of those pins were from Kentucky. So we're bringing in a lot of folks from a lot of different places, and we had 33 states represented. And we also had Japan and Canada represented. So people are coming here for this event. And part one of this conversation is what can we do to cover our ground for this previous year's bills? We can't control the rain. We can only make up. where we can in terms of weather and what's going to happen for next year's funding and what do we do about that. I believe that's part of our discussion today as well. Judge Bottom, I don't know how in-depth you want me to go on that subject.

Judge Bottom No, that's good. What I can tell the court, and you all make the decision, um our allocation was 25 000 and shannon you correct me if i'm wrong but uh ben's at the 65 35 year i believe we can only spend 65 of that allocation before december 31st right okay so that would be sixteen thousand two hundred fifty dollars would be uh 65 of the total right and the finance committee

Judge Bottom, that's the meeting she's referring to and the city manager and Mayor Atkins and some others from the city and we agreed that in principle obviously it's a court ultimately decision but our recommendation was that we do fund the 65% which isn't quite half of the amount due and the city had agreed to pick up that other difference of

Or 35%, basically.

Yeah, picking that up to make the Grass Band Festival whole with their debts and then set us on a stage to move forward. And one of the things, and we still need to figure out that moving forward plan. One of the things I was suggesting and would continue to suggest is that we come up with a, hopefully a two or three year plan with the idea that we're going, you know, like a lot of events, you know, events have lifespans and we hope that this hasn't run its lifespan, but I do think we need to continue to support our signature, our community signature event, which does do a lot for the community and has done a lot for the community. But at the same time, put some serious goals and objectives on it that need to be accomplished and met in that time period. Or I just don't think we can continue to go forever. But I think that I'm optimistic that we can accomplish what we want to do, given some support and time range.

My two elder colleagues have heard this probably five out of my nearly eight years in the court. And you've heard this. And we could, if you follow through with me and go see the president of Center and get out to those folks who have done extraordinarily well with an outstanding education. And how many people have ever decided, Well, that's free. I don't think I'll go. $100? Well, that's kind of attractive. So we get 100 Center College graduates to give $100 apiece to register for next year's Great American Brass Band Festival by you and I and others going with more clout than I would have with the President of the Center. That could be just a slam dunk for $10,000 right there or more because I think more would come. The hotels would be happy, the restaurants would be happy. I have been saying this since we had an EDP and no one has ever followed through. No one. And I've offered time and time again to go with you or whomever you want to dedicate, to go and talk to the president. I mean there are so many attractive things to the long term. I had to think, as you talked, what's going to make it attractive financially for me to say that one of those 100 people is going to invest in something here. And it hit me that it would be more attractive for them to come, charge them $100, then say, hey, it's going to be free, come. Let's do that this time because you've only got four more months to put up with me.

You have my phone number.

I don't want to hear any impediments to it. My gosh, I'll help you administer it and I'm a lousy administrator. That's true.

But I hope you see the difficulty. I don't see the difficulty at all.

None. If you don't mind, I can put a little paint on the picture for you just to help share some of the perspective that I have on it. is that once we start registering, we can't register some people, not everybody.

I disagree with that. I think what he's saying is that ask them for donations. I think that's the simple thing. That's what he's saying. Getting in, not ticketing the event, but actually going out to Center, asking for their alumni list, and possibly sending an electronic emailer to them with the donation link saying you enjoyed it while you were here you know all these years you know would you consider donating fifty hundred dollars that's kind of what what he's getting through on that i have heard it for many years and so and i think it's a good idea i think it's a good idea um but um i i do want to i do have a couple questions so do you Do you mind if I jump in? I'm done. Okay, cool. I'm done. Thank you. So I've looked at the website, and Clay and I actually had a good conversation on my way out to the Governor's Local Issues Conference about this, and so just trying to figure out because, you know, it is a, you know, I'm always going to preach economic development. And so it is one of those things where if you can tie, you know, your tours for economic development in, you know, Brad Thomas talked about this years ago, where if you can bring, you know, some of these, especially, you know, when you're talking about international people over during a time like this and you can kind of showcase what our town does, it's a great event for that. But looking at the website, it looks like you had, what, about 12 to 14 different bands that were coming here, maybe more?

Approximately 16. 16, okay. It's usually 16 to 18.

And how many play multiple bands? uh shows is it they normally play one show and they're kind of done or depends on the year most of them play one and they're finished although i do some with a few groups utilize one or two slots i did see like there was a couple that you know looking at the programming so is there the ability to maybe have less bands come in and maybe have them play multiple days because if they're here using the hotels that's just you know extra people using hotels that we're paying for you know you're paying for 16 bands instead of eight or ten or whatever I guess what I'm trying to do is trying to get the costs down. How do we kind of get the costs down? Because that's what we really need to do in order to be able to move forward. And I'm not saying forever, but kind of utilize the capital you have and use it wisely. Because if you're asking for our $25,000 and you're asking for the city's $25,000, well not only do we have to come up with an extra $25,000 each for next year's show, We also have to supplement that $45,000 that you lost this year as well because the sponsors just fell through. You had the $30,000 for the main stage and then you also had the $15,000 whatever that put us behind. So not only are we going to have to come up with $25,000 now and then another $25,000, but now the city and the county have to try to come up with another $45,000 total. So is there a way to maybe have the bands play multiple days and and how many of those bands are people that are coming in i mean do these bands have a large following um which is why we're you know and if so do we realistically think that you know they're bringing in that many people to to follow them here or or do we do we kind of maybe come down on and stop worrying about the bigger names maybe have one or two big names and then try to want to say fluff but just kind of have some brass band have some music i mean i love the idea that you guys have done over the last couple years where you're having brass bands you're also having still music that's being played you know by um by you know that people recognize the music and actually do want to get up and dance and stuff like that i think that's great um at the end of the day though The county and the cities are funding this event. And I really want to make sure we kind of get back to this is a community first event. These kind of events are meant to bring in tourism, but it's also I think the main driver of it should be that it's an opportunity for our community to come together. You know, we're a small town, we're growing, and so, you know, you have less of these events where people kind of, you know, get together. This is an opportunity where you're like, hey, I haven't seen this person forever, saw them at the Brass Band Festival, it's great catching up with them kind of stuff. That's what I really want to get to. Since we're paying for this festival, I really want to kind of get something to where the We're catering to get people out, and yes, we want to bring in those big name bands to kind of bring in some tourism, but let's get our community out first, you know, kind of thing. That's my little rant there.

If I address the hotel in terms of our expense, right now we're only able to hire so many bands outside of a three-hour driving range. Most of them play, turn around, go home. So we're not... we're not actually spending that much on hotels at this time.

I knew it was an issue before trying to find places for them. And then with the hotels too, that reminded me of one other thing. That was also the same weekend as Governor Scholars, right? Yes. So there was probably a good amount of people that were in the hotels for Governor Scholars too. And I think that was a fantastic idea to try to put it on there with them to kind of get those families here and give them something to do while they're here as well.

Leslie Bilby from Centers on our Board, and she said the reviews were very high from the kids and from program leaders as well. And so, you know, again, with the rain, we only saw a small handful of them out, although those same kids that came out to hear the music were also volunteering, which was really nice. Yes.

Jamie will tell you, he's been preaching for a couple years too, and I think we need to have a contingency plan on what to do with the rain. Several of us loved the idea of going The parking garage several years ago was a fantastic idea. So, I mean, I think that's, but those are the kind of contingencies we really need to kind of figure out too. Because, you know, if you plan a, this was not the same time you had Brass Band last, I mean the year before, right? But the rain follows Brassman. You know, you can have the middle of July and a drought, and it's going to rain.

It's going to rain.

It stopped the drought for the rest of the year.

It sure did.

So this is the schedule now.

It used to be the first weekend in June. So now are we back? Is this going to be the normal schedule moving forward?

We're trying to follow GSP. And so they're typically the last-ish weekend of June. And so that's what we're looking at moving forward for the following year.

Which isn't a bad idea because the first week, we can go away. It's like, okay, we did that in school. We're going away.

We had a holiday. And last weekend of May was difficult too because you're just after the holiday. We're more of a weekend holiday. And, you know, I want to speak to some of the bands you talked about, social media followings. They have, you know, some of these groups have 100,000, 120,000 followers, which obviously, you know, it's no pop star of the day who's going to have absorbent amounts of followers. But it is high for the niche. And some of the groups that we could bring in have 500,000 followers. but we can't afford those. And for reference, our highest band that we spend on is $15,000. Our production budget is higher than our music budget right now, just because that's what it costs to...

So you're saying you have $15,000 that goes to one performer that plays at one time? Depends on the year.

For this past year, yes. For prior years, I've done two performances. But that's also just one group versus, hey, I've got ten free groups or whatever. And I'm working on those, but obviously, you know, they can only do so much.

Were they like the headliner band?

That was the headliner, right. But most of them are five plus or minus. Usually under five. What's that? And some free. Eddie Montgomery was $40,000 for that perspective.

But we also got money, a grant. That was not just specifically from the county ponied up that $40,000. That was part of the America 250 money that we got.

Which we planned a year ago. And then the sponsors, as far as sponsors, the city and the county know for perspective usually it's in that like forty to fifty thousand dollar range between the two of you we've got ninety five hundred thousand dollars in sponsors elsewhere and so as much money as that is and extremely helpful we are reaching as far as we can to get money we are trying to be as resourceful as we can I mean I have worked diligently to create partnerships that write checks for $30,000 we just didn't have that this year and then one of you know that other sponsor we were looking at they had sponsored five years in a row and even mentioned an increase hey we think an increase is possible here we'll get back to you we'll get back to you and then months and months on and Change of hand in the leadership for the marketing and then that that fell through. So that's the difficulty. I think if without without the loss of sponsors and the rain, I wouldn't be having this conversation. But because of those two difficulties, it doesn't downplay what the event has brought in all the years prior to this, especially since COVID. know we're getting 10 to 15 or 15 to 20 000 people across the three days and thursday night alone last year was 2500 folks and that was a small amount of money we spent very little on that and still brought in and that's community members right friday night is 5 000 and then saturday over the course of the day you've got anywhere 10 000 plus or minus so you know people are coming out for it and and and It's difficult having that rain because, again, even with a loss of sponsors, we wouldn't be having even the same kind of competition.

Yeah, so I think this highlights the need to continue to work together with city, county, the Brass Band Festival to come up with this plan because it's cost savings, it's funding. It also, the other thing that's fascinating to me, which I definitely do not understand how it works, But Convention and Visitors Bureau, Chambers, and others, you know, we can track data now so much better than we ever could. And that's one of the things that we've talked about is we need some more time and then an opportunity to really develop the numbers that the Brass Band Festival is generating. And I would like to see us do that on a lot of events in the community, including sports tourism, and all the things that go on in this community to be able to track the numbers that are actually being generated. We can track how many people come to the bike, what are we supposed to call it? Trails.

Bike trails.

To the bike trails, to the skate park. Mountain bike trails. To the skate park, to pickleball. There's ways to track all of that. How many people come to center college swim meets or center college football games? That's fascinating to me. I have no idea how it works. I just know, my phone knows wherever I am. And you know, when I go into a new city, it starts immediately giving me new city stuff or a new country. It starts giving me new country stuff. So there's ways way above my head. But so these are the type of things though, that I really think we need to put our plan together, set a timeframe, you know, that we can't indefinitely fund this if we're not getting the return on the investment that the community needs. But if we are, then I think we can continue to move forward.

All right, so, Magistrate Clinton.

I was just going to say, it got me to thinking with what Magistrate Ellis said and what Magistrate Cullen said. The Center College alumni idea, and he says people like to come and get caught up. Maybe you could, I don't know if showcase is the right word, or spotlight, or highlight some event in conjunction with it. brass band that would bring these alumni folks back and they would pay to be a part of that would help fund it.

There is a way to take that money.

Thank you. Yeah because we talked about this at the meeting the other day but I do feel like to me one of the things and this goes back to the point Matthew Cohen's making in our community part of it is I feel like this has long been our community's homecoming event. Because there are people that have grown up since 1990 knowing nothing but going to the Brass Band Festival and having the Brass Band Festival as part of the community. And so I think we do need to do a better job of spotlighting that. Come home, see your family, your friends that you've been separated from. This is the time to come home to do that.

Revisit your alma mater. And I think with the artistic changes that we've made and the music changes we've made, the word is spreading more and more amongst the community again they're not going to pay attention to the community is not going to pay attention to our marketing when hey we know what it is we get it but but those changes have been there and now it's getting the community to recognize hey this is something different than what you're used to saying there is some of the old that you're used to saying which has to be there but there is this new wave as you you've mentioned there's music that people recognize and and dance to and understand and and can feel like a part of it.

I can't take credit from that. That was Robert Wagner several years ago. We were sitting at the table, and he kind of knows. I mean, he's been in the music business forever, and so he's like, you know, we can get some music people, you know, little younger people who would recognize. They'll get up and dance and kind of bring it to them. We also, and I'm guessing this is probably something maybe for the board and for you to understand that you always want to think about growing and how do we make it bigger and better. And if we look at past festivals that we've had in this community, sometimes when you start making them too big and too better, then they go away. You know, we look at the barbecue festival, which, you know, it was one of my favorites, you know, it's a great festival, you know, and it just got so big to a point that it kind of, you know, it was too much, you know, especially when you can't control things like COVID or whatever, which we understand. But, you know, we used to have an air show in this community that a lot of you probably don't know about, you know, and And it was great. And then, you know, you get a lot of people are like, oh, we're going to make it bigger and better. And then the next thing you know, it's gone. And so I think you really kind of have to focus on like, okay, you know, are we reaching too far? And maybe we scale back a little bit to kind of like, you know, where we know it really worked and go from there.

And I think where it used to work, that's where the decline happened. because people got used to that same show. If you talk to Terry Crowley, he's been on since 1990. He said it was the same show for 25 or 30 years. And then, That's where you see your attendance start to decline. And then what also happened was, okay, well, we took our expenses and we just slashed the music budget down, slashed the music budget down, and then lower quality groups started coming in. You get more free groups, and as great as free groups are, they don't make your heart sing like something, like a group that really understands how to perform and the good quality that it actually provides. And on top of that, the following, the social media following. I mean, Brass Against We still had hundreds of people out for grass against, even though it was pouring soaking rain and that was community members as well. And so, you know, I think we're on the right track and I don't, you know, what I'm reaching for now is to get to a place where it's big enough for enough people. but not to where we outgrow ourselves, outspend ourselves. And right now I've got the music where I want it for now until we're able to make that next step. But right now we've got to cover what's happening here. And again, we've been able to cover our own expenses for the last several years with increased sponsorships. And we saw a huge $7,000 jump in donations last year. which was massive for us, and we were expecting that same kind of jump this year, you know, with higher social media followers, more people coming in. And so whether it's the community or people coming in, what we're focused on is how do we make this as widely attended as possible. And that directly relates to the money that we're able to bring in for the following year. So we want the community interested, obviously. We want them to be able to come in. And we need some of that marketing to help support efforts now because we have this great product but our marketing budget is staying extremely small for an event our size it's just he spent a few thousand dollars this past year and you know three thousand of that went to a social media manager which he did a fantastic job And that's very necessary in the world we're in, especially when these bands have social media followings and presence. When you have community-based bands that don't really have a social media following, that's not as important to you. But when you have bands that have 100,000, 150,000 followers, they want that social media to look right so that they can repost it. And as soon as they engage We get a huge influx of followers. We've increased our Instagram followers alone by several thousand just since 2023 when we started to really pursue the social media side of things. And that is a way for us to continue to track in a free festival what we're able to do and accomplish. i think that moving forward we need to reach further with our marketing and be able to you know as as mr k spoke about but geofencing and using services that reach our phones immediately and and pull these ads and hey you're entering boyle county this is what and boyle county is on every single piece of our marketing out there gamble boyle county come to center college this is where it is And this is the dates and it's there every year. So it continues to be. The more people we can reach with marketing and the more budget we can get for that, the better off we're going to be.

What's your hope? Are you trying to pull people in from more than three hours away? Because you mentioned that about the bands are more than three hours away. We live in a society where we actually have the ability to look at the weather and track it and make a decision probably the day before whether we're going to go and do something based on the weather. We can see that. And I think a lot of people, if you're trying to grab them from too far away, you're going to fall short based on weather. Because people are like, I'm not going to travel all that way. There's a good chance it could rain or whatever. So you've got to be really careful about how far out you're trying to go and how far out you're trying to attract people. um coming from hawaii california all the way those are ones you can't count on those are ones that you hope to come you really got to hammer in you know maybe that three hours is kind of your that's your niche is that uh that those are the people that you really should be going after and you know it's great to have the stories about people coming from japan or whatever but you know if it's if it's raining they may not they may not make it that far although you know if they're coming from that far they've they've probably already made travel plans yeah but way in advance yeah and their flights and what they're i mean i can tell you from experience it's easy to cancel now than it has been in the past you know sure you're not going to waste you know money to come out but the ask that you're giving us right now just to put it in dollars is essentially it almost feels like you're asking for a total of about a hundred thousand dollars between 2026 show and 2027 show. Because that's the reality. Because we've already given you the $25,000 from last year, I think it was, right? And now you're asking for another, you know, as much as we can give this year, which will probably end up being $25,000 after December 31st. Right. I see that we will probably be giving you that. So that's $50,000 is what we're going to end up spending for 2026. And we haven't even talked about, yeah, because we gave you $25,000. already from last year that it was supposed to go for 2026, right? Right. Right.

Right. I see.

Sorry. I had to get all 25, 26 fiscal year.

Yeah. So you, the 26 show, we gave you 25 already out of last year's budget. And now for this year's budget, we're going to give you 25 essentially for the 26 show as well to catch up, to catch up. Now we need to try it. Now we need to scratch our heads and figure out, okay, what are we going to do about 27th show? And so, um, and we don't, You don't know about your main sponsors or anything like that, so they'll probably be pushed to come to us again to maybe fund that amount. So that's what I'm saying. That's where we kind of get to the $100,000 for these two shows. And so that's almost the asset we need to save. Clay?

I was just going to say when you were talking about three hours away or whatever, I think those are all the people that knew it was raining and didn't come out. So if you looked out there, you probably were seeing the people that had already booked their hotels, made travel plans, and then they were like, alright, we're here, we're going to go out and make the best of it. And everybody that was going to drive that lives here and in the community were like, heck no, stay at home. So I think that we are, you know, we get those people that are close, it's just for the most part because they live here. It's easier for them. I mean, that's where we're at.

And without, you know, with our best frame plan currently, in terms of logistics especially, is Norton Center. Because you try to hold it outside as long as you can, and then you go, okay, we gotta get inside or whatever. But there's a cost for that. But there's a cost for that. And that's- Maybe only because I was the president.

Yeah, sure. Jason brought up the parking garage, and that obviously in coordination with the city, Tony Gray was great. And honestly, I can't remember if I was president or he was vice president, but one way or the other. The person who really came up with that idea was Head of Bag and Brass. She's awesome. She's a genius. She's beautiful, kind, compassionate, much smarter than her husband who was trying to put all that together. That was me. But Jason's right. That went off without a hitch. I mean, that was great. of advanced planning.

Right.

So I just, Jason said, I mean, I think it is something to pursue. It's like just an automatic, this is, we know what we're doing.

And those Bayou groups, those are smaller, right? And you can fit those, but when you get to Saturday, you got 30 to 60 in one group times six or so that I'm planning. And the rest of them are smaller and can fit. And, you know, we, the bands that were, we were definitely paying on Saturday, they all played. we made sure that happened and that's a success because those are the ones we were going to have to spend money on anyway they booked their flights you know they got themselves there they we have to pay them right for for all their travel all their time and well that's just something that the board the committee is going to have to come up sure and figure out you know what do we do if it ranks right and where do we go and how do we do all and i'm open to the To the garage for sure, yeah. Just the garage.

You've got, you know, we have several schools with auditoriums in them or at least, you know, I think now that you have the different date, you know, KSD would be a good option. They've got that large gymnasium. You could, I mean, I don't know how the sound, you know. Yeah. So that's all. I'll leave that all to you. Sure, sure. But the county's perspective of we're gonna invest in this because it's good for economic development, it's good for the economy and stuff like that, we have to understand, okay, How much are we going to invest versus what we're getting in return as well? Because it's like we can't just dump a bunch of money and then get a little bit of money back through the economy.

And continue to be in the hole year after year.

Yeah, so it's kind of like one of those things that's, okay, this is maybe the next two years, kind of tighten your belts and figure some stuff out or really just power down and get some big sponsors. you know, like we talked about, you know, if we can get, you know, the Yamahas or the Sweetwaters like you were talking about, guitar centers,

know people that really benefit from from these kind of events going on that's that's really where we need to be and we need to hit the state um state visitors bureau that's that's a big one too they love music festivals i don't remember why they haven't been better to us we applied for 7 500 in grants um we received 2 500 of that that we may or may not be able to use because it has to be for a downtown event it's specifically for a kentucky based group and we It had to be after the festival in terms of the dates. It had to go for July 1 or later. And so the only way for us to use that, and it had to be in 2027.

Well, maybe, Judge, if you could see about getting the director from the state CDB in here. And our local CDB has to really get vested in this because Their funding comes directly from these hotels that you're filling up. So they have a vested interest in this as well. I agree.

And I'm all for trying to reach out, you know, Mr. Ellis, as you spoke earlier, I'm all for reaching out for donations from Center College. I'm all for that plan.

The long-term benefit of them coming back will be measurable and easily tracked.

I'm looking forward to it.

Joe Jones and Mary Smith coming and two years later investing here, it will be cause-effect direct result.

Mr. Gay?

If we haven't made a motion, I make a motion that we fund that. Thank you. Our 65% of their allocation for this fiscal year.

Okay, which will be in the amount of $16,250. And then after January 1st, you can request the remaining balance. Great. Thank you. Okay, I have a motion by Mr. Gay. Is there a second? Mr. Harmon, any more discussion on this topic? All right, seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed nay? Motion carries. Thank you all very much.

All right. It's important to know the city does not actually tie them to specific things that they have to use their funds for? No. So I believe the city, did they pass theirs last night?

I believe so, I believe so. We got that approval from Mayor Atkins at the meeting that we were all attending. And he said, go ahead and request that money. And so I'll follow up to see if we get that check.

I would think they would have to get it approved as well. I don't think Mayor can just give that. I would. It has to go to the council. So I would follow up with the council to make sure that that was approved.

I will double check on that for sure. Thank you for that note.

Thank you.

Y'all have a great day. You too so much.

Thank you. All right. Thank you.

All right. Anybody seen planning and zoning director? There she is. Good morning. Good morning.

Good. Anything printed out, but here it is. We do not. The fiscal year 2027 budget. Good deal.

I'm speaking of myself, not the rest of the course.

No, I've been told the 11 by 17s work better for plaques and everything like that. All right, so... Today we're just talking about the fiscal year 2027 budget for planning and zoning. Initially we had received $110,000 for the fiscal year 2027, $78,898 for the agency base fund, and $31,102 for a GIS analyst. But we do need an additional $21,102 for the base fund and an additional $3,898 for the GIS analyst. And it's kind of broken down into these columns in the sheets that I gave you. So I'll kind of just go column by column. the first column is fiscal year 26 budget the second column is the fiscal year 2026 budget amendment that's the budget versus the actual the middle column is the adjusted fiscal year 2026 budget amendment and so I kind of highlighted in the additional comments what each column is for the adjusted fiscal year 2026 budget amendment column this adjusts the fiscal year 26 budget amendment to show the fiscal year 25 fourth quarter contribution in fiscal year 25 rather than fiscal year 26, removes the one-time bluegrass ad charge of $52,663.75, and provides a clean comparison to the fiscal year 26 budget and budget amendment. And to kind of go into detail on that, I arrived in June of 2025 and so that fiscal year 25 fourth quarter contribution didn't get requested until I arrived so it wasn't received from us until fiscal year 26 so it kind of made our budget a little wonky so it adjusts for that and then it also adjusts for the one-time charge from the bluegrass ad for the comprehensive plan of $52,663.75. We originally budgeted, I think, $10,000 or $15,000 for that. And so that $52,000 was a big hit on us. And so that middle column adjusts for those two big ticket items and those two of questionable items and then on to the last two columns the fiscal year 27 budget without the GIS reflects increased city and county contributions to cover higher personnel office and contractual costs so this fourth column the fiscal year 2027 budget without the GIS analyst reflects a $25,000 increase in the base amount due to higher personnel costs and office costs. Additionally, planning and zoning hasn't asked for an increase in the budget in 12 years. So if we break down that cost, over the course of 12 years, it's a 33% increase from the base fund from $75,000 to $100,000. But over the course of 12 years, that would be a 2.2% average annual increase. over that period, so it's about a COLA. So, and then going on to the fifth column, the fiscal year 2027 budget with the GIS analyst. This reflects the fiscal year 2027 budget with the 25,000 base increase and a 35,000 base increase. I want to say both from the city and the county. hire a GIS analyst, which has been requested from the city and the county. So this will show the fiscal year 27 budget with that $25,000 base increase and the $35,000 increase for the GIS analyst added, including salary, wages, FICA, Medicare, and retirement costs. But any expenses for furniture, computers, or software are separate from this because in discussions with the city and county they will be provided so the city said that they would provide office space and other things like that so this reflects kind of two things an increase in the base fund and an increase for the ask for the GIS analysts I think originally we asked for fiscal court I think 135 We asked for an increase in 35,000. And after meetings with the budget review committee, we have discussed that we need an additional $25,000 for the base fund. And the budget committee has always talked about if the general operating funds gets below $40,000, which it did after that kind of big hit with the $52,663. So the budget committee has always said if the general operating funds get below that $40,000 mark, we'll ask for an increase. And it did get right around that $40,000 mark after kind of evening out and balancing our budget so that's why I'm here today to ask for okay so for the first additional cost that you talked about is that a total of thirty eight eight ninety seven sixty for the basement uh-huh it would be an additional twenty one thousand one hundred and two dollars twenty one thousand one hundred two dollars yes yeah we received seventy eight thousand $898, but we'll need a total of $100,000.

So I guess I'm confused. Is this request coming for our next budget cycle? It's this budget cycle. Well, I guess that's what's concerning to me is that we're just two months into this budget cycle and that's a lot of requests for

additional funding amendments yeah this budget um and i guess i'm concerned about why we didn't talk about this in march we timing with the audit and timing with the budget review committee um we didn't weren't able to look at the budget until we were done with the audit and so i had to ask for an additional 35 000 preemptively before meeting with the budget committee to go over the budget just timing, really, and timing on agenda items as well.

And so what is the base amount? What makes up that base amount, $25,000?

Additional personnel costs. We can go kind of like line by line to see kind of revenue versus expenditures. So the revenue for the planted fish is on the first page, and then expenditures are on the bottom half of the first page and the second page. um we have not a lot of revenue so i think going to line 15 for the land use and reporting fees we have revenue for that but we also have on line 39 38 of the expenditures the same line item because we try to essentially break even on those costs um so In short, there's not a lot of revenue coming in, but we're trying to, with the implementation of permitting systems online and enforcing the rules in the ordinance and the subdivision regulations, we're trying to increase our revenue and decrease our expenditures. But essentially that. The expenditures are getting more expensive, and the revenue is getting smaller. And what is the salary for the GIS analyst? It would be $35,000 from both the city and the county. And we estimated 50, we have just posted the GIS analysts on our website and on the American Planning Association website. So we are ranging 55 to 70,000 depending on the person's resume and credentials. So we wanted to cap that at 70,000.

$70,000 total or plus benefits?

$70,000 total, but it is already budgeted with benefits in our budget.

Well, I guess what I would suggest is I think this is going to take, I personally think I need some more time with this information. And I think we either need to put together a work session or something with our treasurer. Finance committee needs to come together and talk about it.

So when you say staff, right now it's you and Lisa. Correct. All right. So the increase in staffing is just that you and Lisa getting raises, right?

Colas and raises.

Okay.

But I will say over the course of four directors, that personnel cost has decreased with lower payments and salaries. So it has not increased. It is an increase in office space. It's an increase in... accounting services. Additionally, it was an increase in contractual services due to the fact that the county doesn't have an engineer surveyor anymore, so we have to contract that out ourselves. And additionally, that big hit with that $52,000 charge for the comprehensive plan, that is what took us to that $40,000 mark in the general operating fund. And our budget committee has always said if it gets that low, we need to ask for an increase.

I don't believe so.

I think we paid that full $52,000 charge.

We'll pull that one. Yeah.

Or at least we budgeted it. Whether it was requested might have been the question. I know you all came, not you, but Michaela came and we did. approved but whether it got requested in the budget year and asked to carry forward may have not happened. We budgeted for it too.

We budgeted $10,000 to $15,000 and it was unexpected.

I think the city and county were supposed to make up the difference. But whether you all asked for it is another thing.

So how hard are you pursuing contributions from outside of just Danville and Lowell County governments?

We do have an additional online for, we have a small cities contribution from Paraguay and Junction City.

But I mean, I guess my question is, have you been reaching out to them trying to get them to up that contribution? I mean, I know that there's a lot of growth in Junction as far as housing and stuff like that goes, which means you've got expenses, whether it's your various fees or whatever, for them to build these houses and stuff. They both have seats on the board as well. So has anyone approached them about possibly helping to cover some of this shortfall? Okay. I think that's the right thing to do as well is that we know a lot of growth is happening in conjunction. I mean, there's a lot going on out there. And so it would be right to kind of maybe approach them to say, hey, we're doing a lot of work in your neck of the woods. Can you guys... But the hard part is, like Jamie said, we've already established our budgets for the year. And so we worked really hard this year to have a good balanced budget while still having good projects going out there. So it's going to take a lot for us to be able to figure out where we can cut. We can't just keep dipping into reserves. But I would say wholeheartedly that we really need to at least ask if there's opportunities there for them to contribute more. Like we said, they've got board seats and stuff like that. And then that goes back to, and I understand everybody's in the county, but how much of this growth that you're asking us to take on is actually happening specifically in the county? Outside of the municipalities. Outside of the municipalities, how much is happening in the county? Where the county should be equally funding it. You know, if there's a heavy amount of stuff happening in Danville, you know, a lot of your expenses are coming in from Danville, where Danville receives their own taxing money. Our county taxes. Very little. But how much... of that is you understand what I'm getting at is like you know should this cost actually be equal and split I mean actually we're taking a little bit more of it according to these numbers how much are we subsidizing I guess I can't answer that question okay I would say those are some of the questions that maybe you know we we figure out and go from there because we We need to find funding sources, and we need to make sure that we're funding things appropriately.

What's the grand total ask?

I need the grand total. For the base and GS? For everything. For everything?

There's two different columns. There's what they want now, and then there's So we've got to bring it up that way.

With GIS and without GIS. Yeah. 135,000. 135,000. 135,000. With the BASE and the GIS analysis.

With BASE and GIS. Okay.

And so right now we have already received and gotten from the Boyle County Municipal Court for the fiscal year 27 an additional, well we've gotten 110,000. So we've gotten an additional increase from that BASE 75,000. But we still have a need for more based on the fact that we have gotten to that $40,000 mark, and we still need $3,898 more for that GIS analyst to ensure that.

So we budgeted $110,000, which included the GIS analyst, right? Yes, correct. But you guys have not, you guys, you're telling me that you're using that GIS salary for something else?

No. Okay. a restriction on that money that we would release those funds when somebody was hired.

It's all in the job. But we still need an additional $3,898 more for them. to cover their salary wages, FICA and Medicare and retirement, because you all do cover the planning and zoning retirement and those benefits. But because we dipped below that $40,000 mark in the general fund, we are asking for an additional $21,000 for the base fund. So we did get that increase for the GIS, but now we're coming for the base as well, so.

Okay, again, I think it's a, and it gets a little more complicated I think just being a county government election year as well. So these are all things and reasons why I think we need to just pause. I don't know if it's tabled or whatever it is.

We're back to that 65-35.

I know and so that's what we're talking about. We have funding restrictions in an election year in county governments because I guess People have done goofy things. And so we've got to, there's protections against that now. And so we've got to abide by that. So that's one of the other complicating things, I think, that we have to kind of work through and meet and talk about all of this for that reason.

But like I said, we did post that GIS analyst job on Twitter. the website and i saw that you all posted i think on facebook as well so thank you um so we are hoping to start interviews in september and get that hired yeah because well regardless we're only going to be able to give 65 yes um but we wanted to ask for that 70 000 um for the

top and make sure it's but we we may not you know use it they will need it all anyway because they're not going to pay them up front correct yeah that's correct yeah anyway yeah okay paul and tom would you guys be able to maybe coordinate something with the mayors for and see if there's something that could happen from from junction and parable to assist with some of the funding as well y'all both have great relationships with the mayor

So we're going to have to follow up on this until we can get the Finance Committee together and do a little more research. Pardon? The Finance Committee. Yeah. And so we'll figure out a date and let you know. All right.

Thank you. Thank you.

Have a good day. Thank you. All right. Next up is EMS Director Mike Rogers. Waiting patiently.

Thanks, Judge. Let me have some time on the agenda today. Several things. First one is a mutual aid agreement between us and the fire department. It's a pretty standard agreement that we've had for many years. It was kind of just interagency to work together. But this year, the fire chief sent it to the city council, and they recommended some changes. And so you see the changes in the red. Not a whole lot of changes, really. The only thing they added, and it's something that we've done over the years, is item number three is that they've replenished their medical supplies from some of the stuff that we use. And so that's... kind of a mutual aid agreement. Any questions on that?

I've seen, unfortunately, in 26 years in healthcare administration, two very unfortunate deaths. One of a baby, one of an adult. How are we covered when others join us under this in an accident and something untoward is done by one of their professionals? How are we covered?

Yeah, I mean, that's a good question. Of course, we run off our protocols. The city of Danville also has their own protocols. In here, they also have to, you know, retain their training records and all their equipment. And so, you know, our... our people, if it's a patient care error, our people would probably catch that. And so that's a good question. I really don't know the best way to answer that.

Unfortunately, not only the experiences that I know about, but just last week on the news, the wrong dose of a drug was given to a woman, I believe in Lexington, and she's now paralyzed from the waist down. Accidents happen in healthcare and delivery. That's why I want to make sure that in reciprocity, they're covered to the maximum, and we don't have the liability.

I mean, if there's something that happens, I mean, someone's going to sue everybody. It's going to be anybody that was there at the scene. So, I mean, they're going to have insurance just like we would. Maybe more.

And some of the risk mitigation is, you know, obviously we train together. You may see that on social media. The Daniel Fire Department, they run BLS response only. So they wouldn't be administering a ton of medications, one or two at the most. Our paramedics are the ones that are doing the high-level, you know, paralytics, those types of things. So they won't be involved in doing that. It's just kind of basic life support, CPR, first aid for, like, major life threats. choking, those kind of low risk maneuvers. I mean, nothing is without risk, but does that answer your question? Yeah.

Okay, so you need a motion to approve this agreement? We'll make a motion. Second by Magistrate Ellis. Any discussion on the mutual aid agreement between the fire department, Danville Fire Department, and Volcani Emergency Services? I reviewed it and I agree. Thank you. Okay, you approve? Approve. Okay. All right. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed nay? Motion carries.

The next item on the agenda are just some additional policies that we put together to be approved. I don't know if you want to go through them or just approve them all.

You want to just touch on them? Yes. Like, you know, tell us what each one is.

Yep. So we did a light duty policy. It was something that we learned in an EMS class that we took actually Mo and Steve, the HR director, went to the class and suggested that with the light duty position, you need to have a number of positions so that way you don't have 10 people on light duty because that would be a burden to the community. So we kind of made a policy to just kind of have the minimum number of positions and then kind of what outlines what those are for light duty employees. That would be a maximum of two? Yep. Okay. Go ahead and ask a question.

On that, this is not like one where someone's got a disability or the ADA provides accommodations. It's not that. On that agreement, I didn't see there's a timeline or anything like that. Do you think we should have a timeline of the maximum amount of time that someone can be on light duty or in a given calendar year, how much time, things like that? That's just a thought.

Yeah, no, that's a great point. And one thing we talked about in our committee was talking with you to see if you felt comfortable reading through these and adding these, or if we should just specifically look and ask an employment attorney to review kind of all of these high-risk policies for us. And we haven't really had that discussion, but wanted to kind of wrap you into that and see kind of what your thought on it. If you want to look at them and give your feedback, or should we just, you know,

reach out to a one that like that just specializes in like these type of policies and right um i mean probably so because i mean you know i i can give you general right suggestions like you know what i'm just have given you i mean i'll do a fiscal report on the committee did approach steve about you know reviewing some stuff with an hr attorney to make sure that we're we're uh

getting specialized eyes on it as well. So we don't want to just hold you to that. Right.

Especially some on that, you know, where the employees can date or have a relationship. I'm not up on that law. You know, so I think it would be good to have somebody that deals with that.

And that hasn't been done yet.

no we haven't that's no i almost think that like you know it's in there on the relationship thing and it says we don't have to report it if it's not you're not in a supervisory role but i kind of think that everybody should report it yeah

They probably know. Everybody knows. Some of the things that we got from that class, which was from an EMS attorney, that he only does EMS law, this is kind of the things that he suggested. So we just took a class and we threw this together. I definitely think it would be very prudent for an attorney to read all these policies. The thing we were worried about in the personal relationship one is one where you have a supervisor and a subordinate. And that can obviously cause problems, whether it's asking them for a day off or, you know, everything's fine until they break up and then it's really, so. Everything's fine until it's not.

Here's a problem I see. Say that there's two people and they're like, one's driving ambulance and the other's, you know, in the back or whatever. Something messes up or whatever. And, you know, you don't know they're in a relationship. They're going to come with each other's back, you know, on that. So I think that in any relationship that's going on there, that should be made known, you know, in writing.

Yeah, and we've done some things over the years where if we, you know, they come and say, hey, we're, you know, in a relationship, whatever that is, we would just split them up. But again, I definitely think it would make sense to have an attorney look over some of these policies.

I think Chris is bringing up a really good point, too, is that there's always a sense of seniority, even if they're both EMTs. There's always some sort of person that almost has more of a supervisor than the other. And so I think where, you know, when we originally discussed this, we didn't really catch that point, that that's probably something that we do need to make public. And we, I mean, which is going to be hard because then they're going to be worried about being separated or split up or whatever. But there's also aspects of, you know, those people might be in relationships with other people, and this is their time to get together kind of stuff. So I think that Chris' opinion on this is pretty valid.

So they do have to self-disclose that they're in a relationship.

That's what we need to put in the policy. Pursuant to that policy, only if it's supervisory or not, just in general, which I think it's good to have. We can add that. In general.

We can add that.

And then you'll need to add, like, timelines, like, okay, you need to let us know by a certain amount of time. Right, it can still be, you know. Yeah. You don't have to, like, let everybody know or whatever, but probably everybody already knows. Yeah. Well, I mean, we've gone back to the 24-hour shift, so people are spending a lot of time together. They're seeing things that naturally draw people together and form relationships and stuff like that, so. That's why, you know, it's good that Mike brought all this up to us and discussed it. You know, we have seen the news about things happening in other communities, but this made us think further. I think it's good. Okay.

I can work with you on whatever and however you want to handle it. Do you want to bring it back?

Yeah, we'll have to just receive the information today, get someone else to look at it, and then bring it back for approval.

Do we have money in the budget for a specialized person?

Well, we have services and legal. And then the paramedic sponsorship selection process?

It's something that we've done over the years. We've kind of done the same thing. It's just another policy that we thought probably needs to be put on paper to make sure that we're not favoritism.

I approve of that one. I mean, I don't feel like there's much. It's pretty laid out.

You recommend we approve this one today? Yes. Okay.

I make a motion we approve that one.

Okay. Motion by Mr. Cullen. Second. Mr. Gay. Any discussion on approving the paramedic sponsorship selection process standard operating procedures? All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed nay? Motion carries. We got that one approved, Director. All right, that's great.

All right, so I'll bring those other two back. The next thing on the agenda item is Pulse Point. And it's something that we've been working on for many years. And just as part of this, I want to kind of celebrate what we've done and what we're working on next. So in 2012, we started working with the hospital about heart attack. Okay. So there's, we're talking about two different things. There's a heart attack and then there's cardiac arrest. Heart attack is when you have a cheeseburger stuck in your coronary artery and you got to go to the hospital and they can go into a cab and get that out and clear it. And we've had a lot of success with that over the years. And Ephraim has done a great job with that. And it's pretty rare for us, for a community like ours to have a primary PCI center, which is what that is. And so we're lucky there. In 2015, we started really focusing on cardiac arrest. And that's back when I was really focusing on a lot of education at that point. And if you look in the newspaper or Google it, there was an article of me talking about how our cardiac arrest survival rate was zero that specific year. So every year we have around 70 cardiac arrests. And it happens in the United States over 350,000 times. So you're likely to see this in your community or even at Walmart or Kroger or things like that. And so that year we had 70 and zero of those patients there. That had to be devastating. That was a call to arms for us. And also dispatch. Dispatch started not long after that, started doing emergency medical dispatching, which is our first line of, someone getting CPR on the scene before we get there. And if we know they get CPR before we get there, we can double or triple their chances of survival. And so that's why it's important. And so we've been working every year since then. You've seen on Facebook, we work with Daniel Fire Department cardiac arrest. You know how the fire service has a structure fire and that's what they train for all the time. EMS, our structure fire is cardiac arrest. These are patients that are clinically dead. They have no heartbeat or or they have two different types. You know, your heart has four ventricles. If those ventricles, they start fibrillating, or if you just get out of sync, that's cardiac arrest. Now, it's caused by a bunch of different things, but that's kind of the best way to figure it out, what's going on with them. Our next step as a community is what's called pulse point. And what we see is now we get so many people back that they usually, very commonly, we always get a pulse back, very commonly get a pulse back. And what we're seeing now is they end up in the ICU with a brain injury. And it's still a success, but it's not the success. We want people home and to close to normal as possible. And that's what our passion is. PulsePoint, what it does is it basically, it's an app on your phone. And there's several different ways to go about it. But one way that I propose would, you know, this will be the whole process once we start onboarding it, would be if you're CPR certified, where you're encouraged to download the app. If someone calls 911, you're at Walmart, hey, there's someone in cardiac arrest on aisle five. It'll actually alert your phone and you'll say, hey, I'm at Walmart. And you go over there and you can administer CPR. It also has on there where AEDs are, if there's an AED in the store or not. So that way it would alert for that. And so it would be a great resource for us to get people to the scene. And what our dispatchers tell us is that a lot of times, and we've seen it, that the people that are there aren't really healthy enough to be able to do CPR very good. And so if you're at home and you've been CPR certified and your neighbor goes into cardiac arrest, well, you wouldn't know it until the ambulance shows up with an app that will say, hey, someone needs help next door. And you'd be able to use the skills that you learned within CPR. Now, it's a good app, but there's a startup cost, and we've tried to figure out a way to not add more burden to our budget. And so I actually thought it was in the packet, but I did email it out, and there's an invoice that I emailed out just a few minutes ago. But basically, it's an $18,000 startup fee, which is the bad part.

But how much was it?

$18,000. That's the initial startup fee. But Dr. Grant and his medical group, Impact Medical, is willing to put the 100% of that bill for the $18,000 for that starter cost. Now, the next thing, there's always a trick, right? After the first year, every year will be the $8,000. just to maintain the system. And so we thought... The system or the equipment or both? Just the system, the app, the licensing and the app and all that. And so, you know, ideally if the city and the county could split $4,000 each, we could help save more lives. And just to give you... In 2025, our overall survival rate is was 14.3 percent and then the the eustain survival rate and that's the patients that present and v-fib or v-tac that one we were talking about that's a 20 which is much better than zero in 2026 so far the overall is 18.4 and our eustain survival rate is 57 and we've had a lot of saves in the last two months and so What we're trying to build, it takes a lot of champions and this is kind of the next step. So I'm not really sure. I just wanted to present all that. I'm not really sure the direction you want to take. I'm sure Eric will probably want to come in at some point.

Is there a line item in your budget that would cover the $4,000?

That's not until next year. In the next fiscal year, we have time to build it. So really, it's not going to cost us anything this year.

So you're not wanting to start this now?

Well, we will start it. But the $18,000, we'll start it. And then budget time, we will budget the $4,000. It'll be $8,000 for next year.

Yeah. Gotcha.

And you can talk with the city if they want to. That's what I was about to say. Yeah, we'll talk to the city. Okay.

That sounds great. This is one of those things that when you get plugged in with Bill, so we have a tracking system like we had the other... Great, very generous offer from Dr. Grant.

We appreciate that. And that does give us time to, it sounds like this is definitely a worthwhile thing to build up your budget.

Retired nurses and doctors and a lot of people.

You go to the App Store, Apple's App Store, there's 271,000 people that have downloaded it. And it's got like a 4.8 rating as far as an app goes.

And you can have a CPR class and get people certified?

Oh, yeah. We do them all the time. And like I said, we can teach a whole entire church hands-only CPR. It depends if they want to be certified. If it's certified, it's a longer process. It's about a whole day. But if it's just hands-only CPR and stop the week, we can do that in 20 minutes. Teach 250 people how to do it. And that's the basic that made CPR a lot easier.

So I mean really if you look at that map, you know that big blue area along with that large yellow area this this is This is we talked about this a lot in our committee just trying to really how do we respond to these? Areas that are way out that you know do take time I mean You know, seconds count. And so how do we protect those people in those areas that, you know, even, you know, up northern part of my area and all the way out to the Garrett line off of 52, you know, if you can notify somebody that's out in those areas and get that CPR started or whatever it is.

I have some data on that. I'm really excited to say. The first page is just a geospatial demand map. That means we can take all of our incidents out of our electronic health software and plug it into this mapping software and it points to where all the emergencies are. These are 911 calls though. On the second page is we had to manually do this is to go through every single Every day we have a run log that the supervisor keeps up, and we just had to manually go through and count the entire month of July. And it gives you an idea of runs by districts. Now, we kind of had the idea to kind of set it up like kind of fire districts, like county fire districts. But we also wanted to make sure that we included Old Bridge, like in that area. So if we start at the top, it's Damel, it's 54%. So 54% of our runs were made in the city of Damel. Ephraim McDowell was 23%. Danville County is, the Old Bridge area is 11, so 1.59. North Point is 3%. We go there a lot, obviously. Can you pay from there or not? Some of it. Junction City is 6.52. Parable is 3%. Parksville is 2.17%. Mitchellsburg is about 1%, and then Mercer County is 0.43, and then we did a run for Lincoln County, which is 0.14. So we're going to continue to frame these numbers to help you understand. I want the public to know that in our EMS committee and in our judges meeting, we talk about this almost every time. We want to be everywhere that people want us to be or when they need us. It's just we have to also be physically responsible. And so if you have over here, there's no EMS service at all. And over here, there's a paramedic for every person in Boyle County. We want to be in the middle and be physically responsible to be effective. And so we're looking at it all the time. So hopefully these numbers help illustrate that.

I don't think it's as much fiscally responsible as in you take the data and you kind of place yourself. I mean, just because EMS building is one place, that doesn't mean that's where your providers are. You've got them stationed out all over the county based on historical data.

These numbers just backed up my request. for you all to be stationed out in different places in the county. And so I want to thank you for being stationed because I see a truck and parable almost every morning, not not ever, but almost every morning is a truck in parable during school traffic time and going to work at a high volume time. So I want to thank you for that, but these numbers just back that up, is that you've got 3% in Parable, you've got 2% in Parksville, and 1% in Mitchelsburg, and those are your farthest, besides Falkland, outlying areas. And so I just think it's important that we continue doing that and have a truck in those areas as much as we can. I know with 54% being in Danville, you can't have it there 24 hours a day, I get it.

But this is also the important conversation to keep having with Ethan McDowell, why we need to limit those runs that they keep sending us on. Because if they're utilizing two of our ambulances out of Lexington constantly, we only have one to cover the whole county at certain points of the day. And that is a conversation we're having with them. We met with them not too long ago and might continue to meet with them to try to figure this out.

What does the piece of equipment that we've got at our church and many of the churches have, what does that cost?

So the AEDs, they're automatic external defibrillators. There's one right out here. You can see the balls and aircrafts. They run from about $1,200 to about $2,000. So they're

You've offered, and I haven't followed through with you, to come and train at our church. It would be, I mean, I'm looking at, you know, just how remote some of us are, and I may start trying to encourage folks I know from several of the churches where I've spoken as a Gideon, A, to consider trying to buy one, and B, certainly with or without one, getting a CPR class centralized somewhere where you guys.

Mike and I spoke yesterday about this very thing and I said let's look for a grant where maybe we could purchase some of these AEDs and figure out some way to distribute them to people with heart conditions in remote areas. or at a community center in an area.

The City of Danville got some for all of their squad cars several years ago. They threw a grant.

That would be a good idea.

We applied through the Ephraim Riddell Foundation, EMS did, and got some for the City of Danville. And then we also got some for the Sheriff's Office from the Department of Public Health.

Would an individual, myself, run and get it at church and use it on someone without any training?

Well, I mean, you can. Ideally, there is training. To save a life.

There's a video that you can watch, but you've got to take the time to watch the video.

If you turn it on, it's going to tell you what to do. Check for pulse. And then apply pads. But you don't... It's different. You need to intentionally go look at it first, because when you're in the moment, you don't think as well as you probably would.

How do we get you guys to some of the festivals? I was just thinking about some of these, like the Forkland Festival I was thinking about. The variable comes up the week before. Anywhere that people are having booths set up, like in Junction for the Halloween parade where people can just come. Your whole thing has always been like, if I can just teach people hands-on CPR. Have you guys kind of... Have AED there? Well, an AED, but more along the lines of also the hands-on CPR as well, where instead of scheduling a class at Tom's church, you know we're going to have several hundred to a thousand people at this event come through or whatever. You know, kind of like where we have Terry and Mark set up at some, you know, block party would be a great thing.

The first and second weekend of October.

Any festival or, you know, community event.

Yeah. And then you're there if there's an event.

Especially if we're rolling out this app where you can now have something like QR code where somebody can scan the app.

That's a good way to promote that. Promote that as well.

One thing that we've tried a lot, I personally went to Lowe's one day and set up and people just they're busy and they just walk right past you gotta have something for them like you gotta have like a pen or like some kind of something to give them because otherwise they're not talking to you but now if you give them something right they're willing to do whatever we went to the bull county football games and done it there but people don't want it unless you've got something to give them they don't want to They don't want to do it.

No, I mean, we figure out from a promotional budget to get some stuff, but I think if people are there and other booths are set up, I mean, heck, even the farmer's market, you know, on Saturdays would be a good one to kind of be at as well.

Constitution Square Festival's coming up in a couple weeks.

You want to focus on the ones that are primary. You want Not to teach the CPR to everybody, because that's great, but I want to focus on the ones that hit primarily Boyle County. I think the Farmers Market is a really good idea.

Farmers Market, Falkland Festival, because you're getting Parksville, Falkland Festival, Mitchellsburg, Junction. You're getting these people that are coming. They're coming. They're going to be there. And you're going to hit people you may not hit other things. I mean, you're going to have to go to the masses.

Yeah, yeah. And we can print something out after they do the little handle of CPR, hey, download this pulse plan. Yeah.

Have some bottles of hand sanitizer or something, you know, that just goes along with medical, I mean. Yeah, good idea.

Put that on the agenda for the next U.S. Committee meeting and along with ideas for promotional money needed.

Do we need to do anything to start it this year? Can I just go ahead and set up the full-spot account?

No, you've got to work with, like Julie said, you've got to work with Bill because if there's going to be an app that the county is going to be responsible for paying in the future, we need to be. You work with Bill, I work with Eric.

Yeah. All good? Yeah. All right. Let's get with Bill. And then we'll come back to these other two once we find an attorney to review. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. As our agenda says, it is subject to change. So item 12 will be rescheduled at the next meeting. Parks and Rec Director Tommy Barton. And then item 13 will also be rescheduled once we have that.

We need to appoint me to the committee.

We're going to appoint you. Okay. That wasn't the other one. Okay. My bad. All right.

Do we have a signed agreement for the formation of the committee?

I don't think so. We don't. I don't think we do.

So we can't really appoint you until we actually have a formed committee. That was supposed to be, Earl was supposed to get us that for the last six months.

Okay, I thought we had done that.

We did our part. I don't have an executed agreement.

No, you don't have an executed agreement. Okay. Alright, well we're going to postpone that then to the next committee. Mr. Gay? You can't be appointed to a committee that's not... That's not a committee, I mean... You won't get to pay until we get you...

I think the city did their part, we did our part, but we need to get that agreement executed, the inter-local kind of...

Right. Okay, those not aware, we do not have a signed copy, or we would not have put that on the agenda. All right, so I'm going to add at this point, we have hired a new economic development president, CEO, that is present with us today, Grayson Evans. And Grayson, I'd like to have you come up and just introduce yourself to the court. I think most of us know you anyway, but, and you can just tell us a little bit about your vision for economic development going forward.

Great. Judge, thank you. I'm Grayson Evans. I am the new appointed president and CEO of the Development Corporation here in Danville. Start on Tuesday of next week, so just one week away, and I'm very excited. Judge, Minister Cullen, thank you all for the votes of confidence at the Development Corporation board meeting. Most of you all probably know that I've been over in Harrisburg, Mercer County for the last couple of years, and you know, I think that For the first time in a long time, there's been substantial industrial activity in Mercer County, and that's something that I'm very, very proud of. But I can't tell you my life story without telling you that Danville's my home, and I love it here. I came to school at Center College and got stuck and never left Kentucky. The Lord has been making a home for me for a long time.

John, there's one of your $100 donors right there.

I was sitting there squirming. This is economic development. I'm just teasing. We need to get into the wallets of the center grants. I'm one of them. Think of the leadership role you'd be playing. And so for this community, I think industrial revitalization and shaking things up, It's something that we can definitely achieve. We've got good product in the Stegall Business Park and on the EDA's property. A couple of buildings we need to fill. But this is a community that's always been the micropolitan hub for this area. We need to maintain that identity, and I think we have an opportunity to continue to grow. You've seen substantial commercial and retail development in this community. And with absolutely no disrespect intended towards anything that we've done over the last few years in economic development, I do think we've taken our eye off the ball a little bit on industry and manufacturing. So really looking forward to building relationships with all the partners that I'll need to have relationships with and better understanding what we can do to put our best foot forward to try to win a few projects over the next few years. We're looking forward to that. Happy to answer any questions that you all might have, but I'm honored and I'm excited to get started next week. Thank you so much for being here. Welcome home.

I guess one of the things they've heard me say over and over again is I don't disagree. We've got to continue to work on those big projects and we need to land some of those. But I'm a big believer that the driving force of our economic development is our mom and pop shops. And that's where our jobs are really created and I've long said I would just soon help create, help our citizens and others create these small businesses. If we can create 50 small businesses that can be sustainable, that employ two or three or four or five employees each year, that's a lot of job growth and economic development in one year.

measuring economic development can be a complicated thing in that those three or four jobs at a small business like that mean the world to those families who were here that That's their paycheck. That's their livelihood. And so, you're right, it's definitely not only about securing that 200 or 300 jobber that's coming in. It's about making sure that we, the community, have resources that are available for those folks to be able to succeed.

Right. So that whole incubation of those and how they pay their taxes, the fact that they are supposed to pay taxes, and all of that education and training that goes into people's good ideas and that you know and all of our restaurants that we have in this community at one time or another you know especially those franchises they started as a mom and pop operation that was a good idea that then became a great idea and now we all eat you know a lot of us eat at those establishments so those are the type of things I'm thinking of because I'm sure we can have some franchise worthy things that develop out of this community as well.

That's what the judge can tell you every time we're in economic development meetings talking about, you know, channeling inner Jamie of small businesses because it's much easier for us, I feel, to to help a small business turn into a next large business that's already established here, instead of trying to constantly recruit places to come here, because you start thinking, okay, well they left another place to come here, you know, there's not that kind of loyalty, but if we can, and we have examples around us of Pitman Creek, It was Lincoln County, Goose Creek, and Casey County that these small businesses just kind of exploded. And so if we can help them get to that next level, those small businesses will stay here because of the loyalty that the community has had for them. We've got a little rock quarry right over not too far from here that has kind of exploded into a much bigger group.

New industrial recruitment is always only going to be a fractional portion of the job. Real growth is easiest to secure, be it big employees who've already got or the small dealing with known quantities and known folks who have already made the investment. It's easier and it's probably better for us. Jamie, I'm promoting an event that I had no hand in putting together, but I know that the development corporation in tight partnership with the chamber has an entrepreneurship blueprint course that starts in September. It's kind of a five-week program for folks who want to start a business in Danville and Boyle County. I think it's kind of everything from where do I even begin to getting my business license and forming an LLC on down the line.

We have two community centers that are going to be coming up and one in Parable and one in Junction. And we want to use those resources to help get to the people that maybe can't come to Danville so we can put some of those classes when they get built. Sure. And put some of those things in those areas.

Set up events that can meet people where they are.

Right.

You may either not understand going back a number of years our EDP circumstances or you were being very kind. Right. And I think we'll need to meet privately because I started bothering them the year we moved here 25 years, well not 25 years ago, but soon after. And you'll hear more about that in our go around. But I'll say it now for the record. Having come from a corporation that dealt with Frankfurt on $100 million contract, I do understand confidentiality. Sure. However, The judge's predecessor sitting in here exploded when we lost an employer of over 100 because the EDP director didn't tell the judge, didn't tell the mayor, and didn't tell the gentleman who is the past statewide president of the Kentucky Association of Counties who sat right here in this seat. We've got a confidential circumstance going on and any one of those three absolutely had the personal relationships with the owner of that company that has now doubled in size over the past few years because the EDP director never told a soul. you cannot do that you have got to tell probably the judge the mayor and perhaps one or two of the folks sitting here right now who are involved on economic development committees that was a travesty and sadly it's one of many and I hope you'll stay for the go-around because I've got another one that's totally frustrating and in four months you won't have to put up with me Or no, I'll be a private citizen.

I assure you that I will do my absolute best to use sound discretion and to come to you all when the time is appropriate.

The rest of us don't know and don't need to know if the judge, the mayor, and most likely one or two in the economic sector.

I spoke with city manager last night on the same topic a little bit and my intent is to be very very collaborative with city and county certainly I don't mean to be too informal in the way that I say it but we don't want to bite the hand that feeds as an organization A and B You know, I would like you all to have the confidence and trust in me enough that we might come to you all someday and say, we've got a great opportunity and we need your help bringing incentives to bear to make this work. Or, you know.

Well, I can tell you as a member on the Economic Development Corporation how excited I was to hear. When we found out about the opening, there was a name that came right to my mind that said, man, it would be fantastic if this person would possibly apply. I wasn't on the hiring committee, didn't even know that he applied. And then when we were made privy to who was selected, I was extremely excited. I think this is going to be a great read. rejuvenation for economic development in Boyle County and just, you know, knowing Grayson's passion for this community and for economic development is just a win-win for us.

Welcome.

Thank you. We're very excited that you are here.

Are you familiar with the O'Reilly zoning problem? Have you been briefed on that? I need to be filled in. Okay. So it's something I need to bring to the court anyway, so you may be able to help me if I stumble. The R&R Donnelly building that is in the county is zoned agriculture. Now why it's never been changed, I don't know. But everything else in the industrial park is zoned industrial. So looking at potential buyers, it is owned by absent owners, the owners are not here, they have enlisted in a third party company to do the selling or whatever of the building should someone be interested. But I don't think anybody is going to be, and this is where I'll need your help, is going to be interested in a building in an industrial park that is owned agriculture. So I would have to have your all's permission to go before planning and zoning to request a zone change for that building to be re-zoned to industrial.

So question, how many acres do they have?

I don't know.

I think it's 11. I'll move it. I'll second it. Okay, now that's a little disgusting.

Okay, so we have a motion by Mr. Gay, second by Mr. Sleeper.

All right.

11 is what I'm being told.

No, no, no.

Is it the building itself? The Donnelly building is pushing 800,000 square feet under roof. So it's probably 25 acres under roof. Okay. It's on about 100 acre lot and I believe those same owners have another couple hundred acres that are connected to that property. A separate parcel. No, it's a big building.

Well now for my crazy idea of the day.

327 acres.

We need a new fairgrounds. Is there any? We have a fairground. Well, not really. They own it, don't they?

They own it. They own that property.

The fair board owns that property where it's at. I know, but that's downhill and down by the creek.

But that's what they bought for the fairground.

I know.

I know.

So let's stay on the motion.

I don't think they're going to move now.

Tom's running for the chair board. It's, well... Do you have a second? I want to show respect for it, but it's not the type of land that would really invite a lot of people down there.

I don't think they're going to move. Oh, okay. All right, any other discussion on the motion? All those in favor of... Allowing me to go before the Planning and Zoning Board and request a zone change on the R&R Valley Building from Agriculture to Industrial. Signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. All right.

Got that done. Happy to help with the material. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Looking forward to the opportunity. Thanks for being here today. Oh, don't leave.

I want you to hear the goal.

Do you have to be somewhere?

I'm okay for a little while. Okay. He's technically not on the clock with us right now. I understand that.

When you have to leave, you just...

Go ahead. All right.

All right. Watch the tape. Next up is County Administrator Julie Wagner.

Tommy Owens owns Grandson and Missile Fair, correct?

Yeah, I didn't think it was the Fairbrook one. Oh, Tommy Owens owns it? They purchased some property on Crispin Lane at one point. After that, it may be reasonable, Tom. Hey, folks.

that's an unfortunate second-hand place to have our fair okay so um as part of the pickleball project we need to engage a contract to test the surfaces the materials that they laid on the court so for eighty four hundred dollars thoroughbred design engineering and construction will test the concrete to make sure it's the proper consistency so it doesn't crack and buckle and again they'll come back and test the asphalt to ensure it's the quality that we want and this is in the budget it'll come out of the fifty thousand dollar contingency line which we knew there would be little things so i'm asking for your approval to have the judge sign this contract and You said 8,000? 8,400.

Okay, so motion by Mr. Gay, second by Mr. Bodner. Okay, any discussion? Okay, seeing none, all those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed nay? Motion made. I will sign it for court. Okay, next up, I am happy to announce and present The deed of conveyance between the Commonwealth of Kentucky, Tourism, Arts, and Heritage Cabinet, Department of Parks, to the Boyle County Fiscal Court, Danville, Kentucky, ownership of Crawford Springs Park. So moved. So we need a motion to approve. Mr. Ellis, is there a second? Second. Mr. Cullen? Second. All right, any discussion on the deed of conveyance? It will be signed after the vote is taken and then returned back to the Finance and Administration Cabinet for signatures on the state level. And then it will be returned to us for reporting.

I worked with the state and there was a couple of- And you reviewed all this? Things that I wanted and they didn't really have a description on there. So I prepared one which they approved and they copied and pasted that and there's a part on there about the consideration because it kind of looked like we were buying it how it the the old one it was it seemed as if we were paying fifty thousand dollars for it so i wanted to make sure it says this is a gift you know there's no consideration the pva has you know valued this at approximately fifty thousand dollars so they fixed that as well so i'm good i approve okay so i will read the description it's the property being conveyed

Herein being all of lot two, containing 4.1899 acres more or less, is shown by retracement and subdivision plaque titled Crawford House Property, which is attached to the deed, which was prepared by Indris Engineering and recorded on April the 12th, 2022. And that's all that I'm, is there anything else I need to? No. Okay. All right, so we have a motion and a second. Any other discussion?

Judge, first of all, thank you, Attorney Herron. This is one that I hold near and dear. I read every word. It's so critical. There are things we can and can't do, but we've got control of it. I've got to say for the record that if Harold Edwards had not pounded on me every office in Frankfort that could have had anything to do with this, starting with the parks commissioner and ending time and time again with finance and the judge as well and the Governor's right hand man, Rocky Atkins, that the judge bothered more than most people could get away with. But this is critical. The state, one after another, is either deaccessioning anyway or ignoring properties like what we have. Harold Edwards stunned the judge and me two weeks ago in a public works committee talking about the potential for this to be a park. He went down and took 14 pictures in and outside of the Boy Scout camp and I thought the roof had collapsed because of all the trees growing in and out of the whole building, but it's structurally sound and the roof is okay. There is so much that can be done with this four plus acres, including protecting not only it, but essentially having the Crawford House now in private hands, but protecting and securing it as well. It will be gated to go down to the Chaplain River because believe it or not, there were folks my age in this community that used to party down there. And other things went on down there. Mike's looking like he's guilty. But in all seriousness, this will be a park yet to be named that will be an extraordinary asset in its historic value knowing that the brass was upstairs in the Crawford House and down the hill at the river. The one flowing area of water in that part of the county was an everlasting stream out of the cliff. And while the brass was up top in the Crawford House, hundreds of troops with their horses were down there sustaining themselves for the battle. So this is just a tremendous gift for the county. And I look forward to working with everybody, including next year. We're going to take the stones from the now fallen down weighing station at the quarry at our convenience center and we're going to build and I'm going to hopefully enlist some Eagle Scout candidates to learn how to lay stone and have a beautiful wing on each side of a magnificent gate which we will have to put out for bids because I know the low end and the high end cost of these types of gates, and it would be lucky to get it for $10,000. It probably will be as much as $20,000 because it will have a computerized system where the judge or somebody else can punch a button on a computer and decide the sun goes down at 9 o'clock in the summer, it goes down at 5 o'clock in the winter, and people are in and people are out so that there are no hooligans down there like there might have been years ago. Thank you, Judge.

Thank you. We are very excited to have this back in our possession and can't wait to see what happens going forward. All right. With that being said, we have a motion and a second on the floor. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed nay? Motion carries. all right thank you joe yes thank you thank you it was a collaborative uh effort and um so we just appreciate everyone that was involved in in getting that back into county position next is the agreement for mckinney's cleaning service this is the one year rollover agreement from last year we need to include a cola of 2.7 percent What was the amount? $1,700. $1,700, okay. $1,768. Okay. So that will need to be included if you all approve. So moved.

Seconded with a call.

Okay, we have a motion by Magistrate Gay, a second by Magistrate Cullen to approve the agreement with the McKinney Cleaning Service and add a COLA of 2.7%. Any discussion? All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Motion carries. I tried to get Larry to come in here and celebrate his agreement, but he said he wouldn't want to. Let's see. I think that is all that I have. We are down to Treasurer Shannon Green.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Put the Treasurer's Monthly Settlement in your packet for you to review. acknowledgement of that.

Knowledge. Court acknowledged. Okay. Alright.

My other item is the tax rate. We need to set the tax rate for the coming property tax season.

Finance committee is met.

Finance committee met yesterday. We they said the compensating rate which is 5.5% for the property tax and the personal property tax.

So moved. Second.

I have a motion by Mr. Gray. Gray, Gray, I don't know where that came from. Gray, Grayson, maybe that came out of you. I don't know. Mr. Gray, second by Mr. Killen. Any discussion? It is not an increase. It is a decrease.

The rate goes down.

The rate goes down. All right, all those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Motion carries. Thank you, ma'am. Okay. We're up to Magistrate Reports and Magistrate Harmon. We will start with you today.

I'd be glad to start it off. I'll pass it to

This morning the Boyle County Sheriff's Office committee met it was myself and and management sleeper along with TJ Kyle and chair fun we discussed the two new deputies will be graduating and joining us soon sheriff's department's very excited because there's normally you kind of like They come in and you just release them, but now there's more training that they'll get through here. There's an eight-week period before they actually kind of go out there. So they're getting a lot of education and a lot of knowledge, familiar with everything on how it works. So we're excited that they'll be joining us as well. I'd ask them about some information on accidents. We've had a large increase of accidents along with 34 from The Garrard County line up until where Lexington Avenue and 2168 meet. And from their rough numbers, since May 1st, there's been 12 accidents in that area, specifically the Taylor Road and Old Lexington Road, most of them are rear ends. And so this further strengthens our request to the state to fix that road. give us some turn lanes, whatever we can do through there, some better mowing to help get that line of sight. So Judge and myself have been in contact with Kelly Baker from District 7, and also we've included Daniel and Amanda to help us with that. Deputies are doing well. We've got a good morale going through here, and so we're very excited with the All the work that our first responders, especially the Sheriff's Office, it's a good group of people. We're very excited that these new deputies will be adding soon and that will help get people we need out there and double up on some shifts that have always had one person on them. So we're excited. So I'll go ahead and submit that report for my motion.

Okay. Is there a second?

Second.

All those in favor signify by signing off. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Motion carries.

The Finance Committee met loosely on Monday as well. We discussed the compensating rate along with a couple other things. And it was a good meeting. And so I'll go ahead and submit that as well as a motion. All right.

second second that's your gay i have a motion in a second any discussion all those in favor signify by saying aye aye any opposed nay motion carries one thing that i had actually discussed with julie before is looking at our

website I haven't been able to find exactly what all of our tax rates are for Boyle County so if somebody comes in like hey I want to find out what my taxes are going to be you know net profits personal all this stuff and we don't have it listed so I like to ask that we go ahead and it doesn't have to be anything specific just I mean it can be on a Microsoft Word PDF whatever and just ask that the IT director be able to put that up on the website yeah I just need to put something together are you asking tax rates

specific or are you asking like if I have a hundred thousand dollar home what's my taxes going to be based on where that property is located no just just individually just just our various rates like 5.5 is the county and yeah okay if I were to pull up well we just need to make sure we update that because we don't want to neglect that and then somebody come in here and

put a date on it put a date that you did it correct yeah so you know what all the individual texting districts yeah so i i and i can send this over like i have an example for woodford county you know they have theirs where the state fire library county school health extension what the cities are, you know. That would be helpful. Very important and helpful because, you know, people get that tax bill from us every year and they're like, oh, my taxes in Boyle County are crazy. These people in Boyle County are crazy. I have to pay all this money. And then they never really look to see what the actual individual taxes are because if they saw what they pay in county taxes. It's a very small percentage. Very small percentage. You know, it's probably one of the lowest actually on there. In the state. In the state. We have one of the lowest tax rates in the state. We do, but even within our county, the library, the extension office charges more than what we charge on a lot of these things. So I think it's important for people to be able to see that and understand.

And if the advocate picks up on that, I would hope that they would say something to the effect that we have zero control to a point. But we have zero control over special taxing districts, the ones that Mr. Collin was talking about.

Now, we should put a disclaimer. Tax rates are subject to change, police contact, so and so. Well, that's a good idea, yes.

Rates are set by individual districts as well.

Thank you.

Yeah, yeah, correct.

Good idea.

Correct. I mean, you could even go above and beyond and say, okay, these rates are, you know, established at this time here or whatever. But I think it's important that we have that. You know, it helps when people are coming in to see about opening a business. What are their taxes? Are people moving here? Whatever. So, anyway, so that was just an ask. Okay. Big news I'm excited for is we've got a grand opening date for our skate park. And this is something that's, you know, I've personally been working on for several years and I'm very grateful to the court to getting the funding from last year and this year to complete this park. It's gonna be one of the nicest parks, you know, probably within 100 miles. You know, the only one close that, you know, is really gonna be as nice as Louisville's got a really big skate park, but it's outdated. It's dated, I was gonna say, it's dated. Very dated, and so, So September 19th is the grand opening. We're still working on the times. Parks and Rec will be putting out flyers and information on what's going to be there. But it would be nice if there are... The park designer and builders are working with some of their professional skateboarders to be able to come to this event, which would be kind of cool. I think they've got a couple people coming up from Florida at this point that are going to come. And we're going to be cooking out and stuff like that. So it's going to be a great day for the skate park. And this was a good collaboration between the county and the city. We're splitting this one 50-50. And so it's good. Hopefully the old ramps that have been there for 20 years are going to be put to use somewhere else too. Yeah. Anyway, so that's all I have. I think we all know who we want to close in memory today, but Judge, I'll let you make that announcement.

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Mr. Gay.

I don't have anything. As you all know, I appreciate your patience when I've been traveling out and about a lot, keeping up the best I can. I did wear my Kentucky blue in honor and memory of the person we'll close in honor of today that I want to issue my sincere condolences to our county attorney and her family.

Yes, absolutely. Thank you. Welcome back and thankful you had safe travels. Thank you.

Last week attended the Governor's Local Issues Conference along with Magistrate Cullinan, Magistrate Ellis and some of the court staff. I was really pleased to go into a session with the Kentucky Workforce System and Reentry Program and Director Aaron Poynter, first thing he talked about was our Boyle County Detention Rise Program success and the partnership that we have there and very successful we talked about the OSHA 10 CPR and forklift operator certification our county inmates are going to be receiving and just really really cool you know kind of I love the loss from Boyle County so but anyway I believe the graduation ceremony is this evening six o'clock six o'clock at the detention center yes everyone's invited special cake all right that's it all right thank you measure sleeper thanks for down

Thank you. First of all, Ann Sleeve has been so nice to me even before I ran for office and I've always kept up with her birthday. There's a new feature on Facebook that is absolutely stunning. After they show you how many people have responded, they show just people who have looked at a post. I put a post on a week, ten days ago about Mayor Sleet's birthday and 164 people responded nicely. 6,600 people must have opened it with a smile, which is really indicative of the wonderful lady that she is and everybody wanted to at least acknowledge her birthday. Did you say 6,600? 6,600 people. Wow. Probably mainly Boyle County, but she was known all over the state as mayor. So that was very delighting to see that people do care for her every bit as much as we do. I've said enough at this point about Crawford Park and just so excited to have that land back, Judge. Thank you. Yes. Um, and, uh, Mr. Zaper mentioned Rise tonight, so, uh, let's all rise to the occasion, because that is a critical program and getting great feedback. Um, mentioning Kelly Baker, not only did Kelly take care of Perryville Road when the weeds got a bit too high, but he's committed to do it again before our festival in October. And when we were driving back from Louisville the other day, um, I know blindfolded how to get off the highway and get back home, but the tree covering that exit was so huge that I contacted Kelly, and within a day he reported that he'd contacted his colleague in whatever district that is, and that tree's going to be trimmed if not cut down because, especially at night, but anybody traveling, coming to Danville, Boyle County, Harrodsburg, historically, You can't see it in the daytime to get off. So that's just one of the kind of things that we can all do contributing things across the state. This is why I wanted you to be here. And my heart goes out talking about John K. Wood. He took me under his wing within I know it was three years, probably two, because I was bothering people in here to death, having spent my whole career in Frankfort and Washington, and I wanted to see what the city and the county were doing governmentally. And he said, well, with your crazy interests, why don't you start coming to the EDP meetings? I've always said we need a plaque in that sitting area, just across from where you check out books, because every the EDP meeting that I started to go to 23 or 24 years ago, he wanted to debrief with me on what went on. Well, before meeting, I told John that Mark Lane Collins sent me to Japan for a month-long business study tour, all related to Toyota. I mean, This poor kid from Southend, Louisville could not believe that opportunity. The reason I bring it up, everywhere I went, people would mention two things they knew about Kentucky. And the Derby was not one of them. Kentucky Fried Chicken. And stunningly, because I was there representing health care to some degree, because we wanted the contract to Toyota. Eat from McDowell. I was so ecstatic that I tested it with John. I said, now John, I think this was 2003, so we had plenty of time to plan. I said, John, we could have, with that knowledge in Japan alone, and Germans who have contributed so much over the last 300 years to healthcare, and the Swiss who've done, and so many around the world. We in tiny little Boyle County, Kentucky could hold a World Health Congress. If you don't know every minute detail of what happened on Christmas Day, I'll hit it briefly. Jane Todd Crawford was nine months pregnant and holding. The horse doctors in South Central Kentucky, down below Columbia, almost 70 miles away, thought, wow, this is bad. We've got to get that guy, Ephraim McDowell. He, in late November, rode horseback down to a remote area outside Columbia, Kentucky. He had to cross the Green River, I think it is, on horseback, because there were no bridges, in cold weather, he got there, he sent the husband and the two boys outside the crude log cabin, and he said, this lady's not pregnant. She had a 22-pound ovarian tumor. With the exception of Caesar, the C-section that we know today, And mom died. No one had ever invaded a woman's body the way he dared to, to the point where on Christmas Day, the sermon by his own pastor was that Ephraim McDowell was of the devil to even think about touching a woman this way, to excise a 22 pound tumor. Rumored, and a physician friend of mine argues that this is not correct, but it's part of the lore, the sheriff bought a brand new rope just in case Jane Todd Crawford passed away in the surgery. Jane Todd Crawford was such an extraordinary Christian that her anesthetic was singing hymns. The surgery lasted just over an hour. His nephew assisted in the surgery. And with all of that and a longer presentation, it may have been five minutes. Uncharacteristically for me, it should have been 20. I, with John's encouragement, was put on the agenda to talk about a World Health Congress by your predecessor by many years, EDP director, And just as we lost a major employer, when the minutes came out, I said, John, did you read the minutes? There was no mention whatsoever of a World Health Congress. Well, we had over 50 people from around the world on the date of Eva McDonald's death. And by the way, he died at 58 of a burst appendix, virtually a cakewalk compared to what he had done to save the life of this woman. And we had a meeting of people from around the country, over 50 came in from out of the county, and we had a celebration of his death and some great events with all the people who traveled from around the country. And imagine what we could have on the 2020 anniversary of when we missed the 200th anniversary I will help in any way I can with former colleagues in healthcare administration, physicians, nurses, everybody can get credits for doing something like this. So we'd certainly have a lot of people from the United States. It would book way beyond to the point where we'd have to shuttle people from Harrodsburg and all the way to Lexington to get them in here. But can you imagine how we can put the world can understand who we are in Boyle County when a life-saving procedure that by now has saved millions of women's lives in the same circumstance of an ovarian tumor. So I just had to bring that up today and say we missed it on the 200th, but 2020 kind of sounds good. I mean 2027, I'm sorry, for the 220th of the surgery. But 220 years later on 20, and by the way, I did it to where we had five or six years to plan. We've got planning time. So please, It would be so easy to put that first salvo out to people, to let them get on a calendar two years out. So thank you, Judge.

You're welcome. Thank you.

Mr. Boehner. Pine Knob Trails still coming along. We're looking at the new entrance. Still need a report on that grade change from grade 9 to 10, what the HR's come up with. I want to keep looking into that. I called Josh Morgan about the EDA property, but I didn't get to talk to him yesterday. The Balloon Festival, still getting really good reports about how good the Balloon Festival was. Let's see, the 250th Committee, the last meeting is today, I believe, at 2 o'clock, and Public Works. had somebody complain about a big tree that was dangerous with the limbs over the road and the next day they took it down and so of course the constituents are saying oh good job Paula. I said I didn't do that. Yes you did. You sure did. I said they did it. So Public Works really does a good job with complaints of things that could be very dangerous. That's all I've got.

Okay. Thank you.

I think you kind of need to highlight balloon festival, what we were discussing earlier, but the brass band festival. You've got a one day event that's about seven to ten thousand people, five hours, you know, and they made the modifications needed without making it too big or whatever. It's kind of interesting to see that it's there, and with the right stuff, you can draw in the people.

It was well attended.

Yes.

And everything seemed so seamless. I mean, it just like, I know there's problems and things behind the scenes that you don't see, but from the outside looking in, it was well run.

They're looking into next year, because the Nebraska Brand Festival is an example of how it can get too much money going into it and needing outside help, but they're looking into, you know, finding ways to bring money in that won't cause, you know, that won't be as like it is right now. So they're gonna improve it.

It's gonna be good. Well, you know, it takes doing it and then looking at it and seeing what needs to be changed and what can be done differently.

I mean, Junction City Voices is only, this is their second year. Yeah, right. Junction Voices. Junction Voices. Junction Voices, yeah. It's like the pineapple. I've got to figure out which I can do. Yeah, yeah. But it's, you know, the second year doing it, they really listened to what didn't go as smoothly the first year and really just

hammered it out this year and so we've got a good example is the food trucks you know the first year there wasn't that many but now this year there was tons of food trucks and they were all busy and they all still did well yes yeah all right thank you um county attorney this uh last week was a rough week uh she'd been with me for eight years i asked richard campbell i saw him at visitation

He couldn't remember when she exactly joined his office, but she'd been there for a little bit also prior to me and as well. So it's gonna be hard to replace her. Thank you all for coming out and supporting our offices. It's gonna be a big search to find somebody that's halfway even like fill her shoes. I did go to the prosecutor's conference last week.

Chris, before you go on from Rita, at the visitation Rusty kind of crushed me because he knew I'd talk to her anytime I walked by the office and we always talked about basketball. He turned around and looked and he said, I can't believe it, the UK sports folks sent the biggest flower arrangement. When you say that she was on a first-name basis with Mark Pope, she was. She really was. She was a wonderful lady.

Very wonderful lady. But we, our office still has to move forward. So I went ahead and went to the prosecutor's conference to see if it was going to conflict with any visitation or anything like that. It was actually a good thing I went because all the staff there at the prosecutor's conference or was at the prosecutor's conference from PAC. So they were able to help me through some things with Tina to help Rusty and so forth. So it was really good. I can't tell you I remember a whole lot about the conference. I was going through my mind and still does about her death. But she will never be forgotten. Thank you guys. It's great if we can close in her honor. That's it. Okay. Susan?

If everybody could check your calendars real quick. I'm proposing a bond workshop with R.J. Palmer for September 3rd from 10 to noon. Thursday, September 3rd from 10 to noon. That suit everybody? This will be for RJ to walk us through the bonding process, set a number that we feel comfortable with, give Shannon some time to get numbers together, budget numbers.

You said 10 until 12?

10 until noon. I don't know that it will take two hours, but I think we should block that off just to be safe. And this is for the EMS building. Does that work for everybody? Yep. Okay, I'll confirm that with him. We had a meeting week before last with the architect and the engineering team to start going through the building. Do you want this? Do you want that? What kind of toilet do you want? What kind of shower do you want? And we did not make it through all sections of the building. It's quite involved, so we will be having another meeting possibly after that bonding meeting. We'll see. Pine Knob Trails, I believe we're getting close to closing on that property. There is a grant that I learned about at the Governor's Local Issue Conference for recreational trails. It is just opened, due October 30th. I would like to apply for funds to do the trailhead part of that, which would be a bathroom and signage and picnic tables and those kind of things. So I just want to let you know that I will be, with your permission, pursuing that. And that would probably be something that would be awarded next year, funding probably towards the end of next year.

Is there a match on that?

I don't think so.

I don't know. I haven't read through all the details yet, but we would certainly be able to budget for that next year. The max is $250,000. The minimum is $25,000. So... The Sheriff's Office Architectural and Engineering Design, the bids close on the 8th of September. Bid opening is the September 9th. I've only had one inquiry. So if you know any architectural engineering firms, send them my way. Parable Tap Grant is moving along. I think we'll probably start and work on that sometime towards the end of the year. The courthouse, the progress meeting is September 3rd at 9 a.m. We meet every other week to kind of discuss moving forward on the cupola. Tomorrow, starting at 8 a.m., is an acoustical testing firm coming in to start working on the sound in that room, in the circuit courtroom. So that's just a little bit of what we have going on.

Awesome. I would say that tomorrow we close on the Hokala property.

Tomorrow.

okay all right so close this out with I think measure voter mentioned the 250th committee will make it two o'clock today

On Saturday, the 29th, the Grill House in Parable will have their one-year, I guess, re-grand opening and ribbon cutting, so anybody that can attend that.

Best ribs in Kentucky.

That's right. That's right. Also, that morning, Saturday morning, the Volcano Rebel Pancake Breakfast will start at 7 o'clock, and that's at the showroom, and I believe it's $10, as far as I can remember, Saturday morning. And then on Monday, September 7th, the courthouse will be closed for Labor Day. I did not attend the GLIP conference this year, but I did work the Little Cherubs consignment sale, which was a huge success. We ended up with over $50,000. $58,000. $58,000 in sales, so that- Most ever, I think. Will be divided up.

$51,000 last year. It was a little less this year. Yeah, it was one of the best three years.

Yeah, yeah, it was a little less this year. But needless to say, it still was a pretty hefty amount. So I can't wait to meet and decide on who is going to reap the reward from all those sales. Jamie, I have just been advised off the press that we have received the signed agreement from the parks and rec new committee. Julie has said on her hot little phone over there. And so we can back up and ask for permission. Parks and Rec appointment for Mr. Gay. So we have a motion by Mr. Cullen, a second by Mr. Sleeper. Any discussion? All in favor, signify by saying aye. Any opposed, nay. Congratulations, you are the new committee appointee.

Thank you. Things have come full circle. I was the city appointee when we were doing Millennium Park 26 years ago. There you go.

Best of both worlds.

You should also note that the judge is on that committee as well.

Okay.

Thank you. So you got your work cut out.

Yeah, yeah. Okay, so I would like to ask that we adjourn in memory of Tina Cox today and just continue to remember her family, continue to remember Rusty and Charlie and Courtney and their spouses and their children as they go forward because this is a huge loss to their family as well as the courthouse family. And we'll all be grieving for some time. Tina was a very special person and She knew a lot about everything, and if she didn't, she would make you believe that she did. But we all will truly miss her and all of her UK sports antics and discussions and conversations about Kentucky Wildcats and Volcano football, two things that she really loves. Just ask that we, in your motion to adjourn, that we include, that we will be adjourning in victory of Pentecost. I make a motion. Mr. Cullen, seconded by Mr. Ellis. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Motion carried.