Planning Board - Regular Meeting

Thursday, November 20, 2025
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Government Body
Planning Board
Meeting Type
Planning Board
Location
Bow, NH
Meeting Date
November 20, 2025

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0:00 – 0:410

All right, I'm going to bring meeting to order. I'm Don Burby from 135 River Road. Chris Nopoulos, select wood rep, alternate Barry Mackin, community development director. Jess Duke, 50 Brown Hill Road. Ben Davis, 9 Wood Road. Keep Stephano for Hopkill Road. Levi Barry, 19 Drive. Jonathan Petrangelo, 5 Woodier Drive. Michael Lton, three drive. Sandy Crystal, one Shore View Drive. says yourself.

0:42 – 1:030

Okay. Um, how about we got haircut anyways? Nine of us, right? Let's see how many we have. Oh, yeah. We should have six. Six regulars, I think. Right. Two, three, four, five, six regulars. So, we need

1:01 – 1:510

um we'll put Ben on there. will be. All right. Um, first we're get right into public hearings. Application 50425 RSR family revokable trust of 2002. Randall and Christina Rosetti minor subdivision application to subdivide 6.3 64 acres of land into two residential lots 2.6277 acres and 3.6987 6987 acres located at 16 Hunter Drive. What do we got talking about? Come on up.

1:48 – 2:280

That easy. Good evening, uh, board members. My name is Tom Hwitt from SNH Land Services. I'm the land surveyor.

2:25 – 3:300

I'm Randall Rosetti, 16 Hunter Drive. I'm the owner. Uh what we the Rosettes are proposing tonight um is at 16 Hunter Drive which is at the end of the road there's a approximately 6.3 acre lot that they're looking to subdivide into two single family lots. Um this is a unique property in the sense that when this neighborhood was created in 1979, it was originally two lots, but it was merged in the 2000s um by a predecessor entitled to the Rosettes. Um, both lots will be served by on-site septic systems in Wells. There is currently construction going on. Uh, what shows up as lot 2-6 where Nick, who is the Rosetti's son who's here tonight, is currently building his house. The hope would be to get approved for the subdivision so that the Rosettes could move into the lot next door. U, we did receive some comments from staff. Um, some minor comments. We sent revised plans today. I do have copies of that. don't happen if you want to see it.

3:28 – 4:110

Everybody needs Okay. So, we've addressed most of those. Um we are requesting two waiverss um from section 3.02P access and section 3.02 for the fire suppression water supply. This is a street that already has more than 12 lots. Um we feel this is a unique situation because again it was originally approved with the neighborhood to be two lots and was subsequently merged. Um, the new lot, the new house would be directly across the street from an existing house. So, that's basically our presentation tonight and I'd be happy to answer any questions. Okay.

4:13 – 4:580

Was there any uh wetland delineation done for the property? There was. Tom Sakowski walked the property. There's no wetlands on the property. We can provide a letter to the board. Good to get a letter in the record. Thank you. There's a note on the plan. Oh, okay. His stamp isn't on it. So, yeah, note 11 says there's no but Okay. Yeah, it doesn't. Okay. It probably should say per um so you know on that. So, how many houses are on the street before this? I believe there's 17. 17 which I was I was just looking at the Google maps and really the road it turns off it's split. So

4:56 – 5:330

yeah from rising wood from the one road it's there's a whole lot more. Um do we have a copy of the um subdivision from 1979? I do partial of it. While he's doing that, I'll make a motion to accept the application number 504-25, the RSR family revocable trust as complete. Second. All in favor?

5:30 – 6:090

I This is the um this is I basically have the half with our subdivision on, but I can pass that. It shows the original two lots. So, what's that? I'm just going to go the opposite way.

6:13 – 6:240

Oh, I see. Right. because it's the south that they are

6:28 – 7:100

was there any comments from fire department or Yeah, I had a chat with the fire chief because I thought there you guys might rely heavily on his recommendation on this one. Um he didn't feel that there was any reason to not allow it. Um, especially because the driveway is going to be right across from another driveway already existing. So, it's not like he has to go any further to to reach someone. Um, and because there's already more than 12. If it was a new street, he said it'd be different, but it's already there. Um, it was originally planned with those two lots, not any further. So, he didn't feel like it created any additional risk.

7:07 – 7:470

Okay. Any more questions in the board before I open the public? When was the when was the 12 house map? When was that? Is it this? I'm assuming after this obviously, but it must have been I think it's been around for a long time though. I think it has been around since trying to remember from our other research from previous ones. It's been around for quite a while. But we have lots of streets with more than no secondary access. And and this lot like this the road that this street is off. is a dead end which is a lot more. So,

7:50 – 8:250

I was going to ask what is the condition of Line Hill Road? Is it passable at all? It's a class 6 road, so it's not a town road and it's in Dun Barton obviously, but uh it's I think it's more of recreational vehicles. It's not taking a car down. Yeah. That kind of thing. some level of access. Not real access like we're talking about, but fullwheel drive access. Yeah. In a real emergency situation, it would be something.

8:24 – 8:470

Yeah. It's hard to know whether they were where it goes to whether you really could get there from someplace else. Was that a class six road when this was approved or was that a like that? Yeah. For a long time.

8:55 – 9:120

Yeah. Um, this is a public area, so I'll open this to the public if anybody has any comments or questions. not being out closed to public hearing. I didn't get my little terrible That's okay.

9:15 – 10:000

Um, we had a couple of checklist items that I believe have mostly been addressed, but these new plans just came today. So, um, look like they added the buffer strip along the front. believe we would want to see that on the sides as I wasn't sure about that. We can add it, but we can add it. It's within the setback because it was class six, but I can do that. Want to see that along the sides. Um, let's see. They added in the existing and proposed driveway areas. And where is the proposed driveway?

9:57 – 10:420

If you look on the other plan, sorry. I see this driveway there. And then they also we also asked them to show the house that's currently under construction footprint of that so we can see where that falls. And I didn't look yet, but is the date of survey added? Yeah, it's node four. Okay, perfect. Nope. It it looks like the town line is swapped. Do you want to explain that? Yeah. So, basically the original um surveyor Oh, you're right. You're talking about my labeling,

10:41 – 11:120

right? Yeah. Yeah. I'll fix that. That's on me. Apologies. We want the taxes. What happens to the taxes when you do that, right? Well, they actually the notes talk about that Dun Barton would, you know, assign the sliver a number. Really? A lot number. Yeah. Maybe General. Do you want to explain that sliver just so everyone's clear?

11:10 – 11:530

Sure. So, when the um if you're I don't know if you've been to the property, but there's a stone wall that runs along Linhill Road. So the original survey in 79 that surveyor assumed that the stone wall was the town line but reading the parameulation and that's the how the towns define their step their town lines. There were actually monuments offsite that define it. So we located the monuments and held it and so that's where our town line is slightly different and so we did go in front of Dunarton in July because there is a sliver over there and I think there's a letter in the packet where they didn't have issue with it but that's why there's a sliver there. The original surveyor thought um the town line was the wall and we disagreed with that.

11:58 – 12:290

We didn't really want the property done but we wanted to be involved. I will make a motion that application 504-25 um does not have any regional impact. A second in favor that's true.

12:29 – 13:040

So your um acreage calculation does that include the Dunarton land? Yeah, if you look in um the new lot 2-8-67, excuse me, you'll see the total and then I break down what's in Bow and what's in Dun Barton. And we there was a typo in the one of the numbers at one. Yeah, we fixed that. Yep, I think Don went pointed that out to us. Yeah. What are the two?

13:07 – 13:390

So, the two waiverss are related um without there being more than 12 lots on the road. something with the waiverss. That's probably the next step. Who wants that motion?

13:41 – 14:260

I'll uh make a motion that we um approve the waiver 3.02P 02P um regarding uh no secondary access and section 3.02Q regarding fire suppression water supply since guess there's a sister in the neighborhood was that it's at the bottom of the hill. Yeah, there's one one up. So, um, again, it's something that's required when there's more than 12. Okay. So, it's it's related to the secondary access. It's okay. Secondary access.

14:24 – 14:570

But there is one down at the down on Rising Wood. Yes. At the end of Rising Wood. I'll second. I post. So, as far as potential conditions go, um I would just leave the address missing checklist items just to make sure we got all of those captured. I think we're pretty good.

14:54 – 15:390

Yep. Um and then receipt of state permits would be another a separate condition. Um the professional stamps and signatures. on the final plan, waiverss and conditions on the final plan. Um, and then the certification of the wetland scientist. Would you do that as a letter or a stamp on the plan? Whatever you prefer. Usually the stamp on the plan has a note as to how he delineated the wetlands. But since he didn't delineate any wetlands, we can get him to stamp a letter if that works or if you prefer. Yeah, I mean that's fine as long as there's some documentation that a wetland just made that and I can uh I can put more in the not as to who delineated it and when they deline or when they walked the property and that would be great.

15:37 – 16:210

Any other potential conditions from board? I think one clarification on the buffer on the side. You're talking just along Line Hill Road or are you talking Actually, usually both lots, right? Usually I just want to make sure. Yeah. No, that's a good clarification. Let me just uh Oh, for the 50 foot or you talking about the 15? It would be along Lion Hill and I also believe it would be along the back edge of that property but not in between. Let me just pull that up. Typical buffers are laid out for watch.

16:21 – 17:050

Did it show? I didn't recall in that original that you had a copy of that you passed around at that time. There wasn't any 32C. Okay. So along all existing or new streets, zoned badies and abuing established neighborhoods. That's pretty much all around the property. Yeah. So it it also Yeah. along the new streets zone. So we're not we don't have any zone boundaries. I would say ab budding established neighborhoods is I guess up to an interpretation.

17:04 – 17:390

We're good with you. I just want to make sure we show it right on the plan. And it's the it's the width of the setback. So it just means leave the trees in the setback as opposed to not just putting Yep. structures there. So it doesn't have a a huge impact on the property. Um so we would interpret the side setbacks of the overall parcel in the back but not in between the two lots. Correct. That Yeah. Okay. Correct. Does that work for everyone? Yeah. It's basically as it exists today.

17:34 – 18:190

Yeah. So around the whole outside. So there's the only state approvals is the state subdivision and then septic approval for the new lot. Is that not coming yet? I don't even know if you can even have a house design, I don't think. Okay, for the new lot. Yeah, we're we have we have no house design. We weren't sure how this going to go. before you stop.

18:24 – 19:050

I'll make a motion to if everyone Is everyone all set? I'll make a motion to conditionally approve application 504-25 with the conditions that they address the missing checklist checklist items. We have receipt of all state permits. We have professional stamps and signatures as well as owner signatures that need to be on the final plan. All waiverss that were granted and conditions of approval need to be on the final plan and a letter uh delineating that there are no wetlands on the property. I'll second. All in favor? I opposed. Okay. Thank you.

19:02 – 19:340

Findings are fact. I think for this one um uh they met our or current requirements other than the secondary access and the lot had been sub previously uh sub you know subdivide or the and our fire it had been two previous lots initially and the fire chief had no safety Yes.

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Yeah. Yes. Yes. That's that's my motion. I'll second. I All right. Thank you everybody. All right.

19:55 – 20:280

Move right along. Application number 213-25 BCG by the Bay LLC, Brown Engineering LLC. Site plan application to construction of a 9,600 ft building to include an office, warehouse, and shop in an 864 square foot dining and storage building for AMA maintenance services located at 17 Dunley Road.

20:26 – 21:300

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, good evening. Uh, Mr. Chairman, members of the board, Carrie, good to see you. Um, my name is Daran of Brown Engineering. I'm here with Jeremy Fischer, my colleague, and we're representing Brian Godzik. Um, as the chairman mentioned, this is a uh, get my materials here. This is a uh, 17 Dunley Road, 2.6 acre site in the general industrial district. Um it's overlaying by the aquaer protection district and um it's also subject to uh certain standards in the business development district ordinance. Um the site is surrounded by a a variety of commercial industrial uses including truck and auto sales and service, warehousing, storage and manufacturing. Um Brian would like to relocate within Bow. He currently is at a 18.8 8 acre site that some of you may be familiar with. Um and uh

21:28 – 23:180

um it's a it's a contractor yard for landscape maintenance business. Um they provide facilities maintenance and general contractor uh services for retail stores and commercial properties. The primary use of this site is office and dispatch of maintenance crews. There's not going to be uh customers coming and going and the likes. Um there's uh one unique feature I'd like to point out and please stop me if in any point if I've gone too long. Um is a is a brining uh building on site. And um what that does is um we've talked to Brian a little bit about this. It's um I think you may be familiar by using brine the the company's able to significantly reduce the amount of sodium chloride it puts down in the environment. Uh Brian was saying I think what used to take 10 tons to treat um in traditional methods takes about one and a half tons. Is that right? Using brining. So it's it's a way of uh it's a way of um enhancing safety and providing a significant environmental benefit. So so this Brian I can't explain all the details of its operation but we talked Brian taught us a little bit about the fact that it's fully contained. It has twoft concrete walls on each side. And he explained a lot of detail. And I said, you know, just I asked the question, can any salt go out? Will salt ever sort of travel outside of that building? And the answer is no. It's all contained. There's not there's no floor drain that causes any groundwater infiltration or anything like that. So, I just wanted to point out that kind of unique feature of the site. and then I guess again stop us if at any point but otherwise I'll turn it over to Jeremy to talk about some of the technical aspects of the site.

23:17 – 25:030

Good evening all. My name is Jeremy. I was one of the engineers on the project. So um I'll re kind of reiterate the total totality of the project. We took 2.61 acres and we're turning 38% of it into impervious being a gravel parking lot, a parking lot and the two buildings, grinding building and the main warehouse itself. Um for parking we well exceed the requirements. We require 19 based on one 10,000 square feet plus company vehicles. So we require a total of 19 and proposing 27 to kind of overkill that. Um he talked about the brining station. Um we have proposed trees to screen the building from the street for a more aesthetic feel so it can you know maintain the aesthetic nature of Bow. Um we have a lighting plan put together showing that the in with the candle feed is required by the town that it will not impact the neighbors. Um we also did a storm water management plan consisting of three ponds, one of which is a forbay to treat the treat uh to settle out all the solids followed by infiltration into the type A soils in the area. So we're we're filtering the uh the water twofold using that method. Um we designed the storm sorry we designed the ponds to meet the regulated 10 25 and 50year 24-hour storm events. Uh, one other thing I didn't mention, uh, Jeremy talked a little bit about landscaping. We did submit a waiver letter. Um, uh, with containing three waiver requests. Carrie helped us get those right. Um, they're all pertaining to the BIS business development district standards and I think all there's two different sections of the ordinance they pertain to, but they they're all landscaping related. Just wanted to add that in.

25:01 – 25:330

Appreciate that. As for certifications, we have a PE stamp on the plans. They are wetland stamp. There is no wetlands on site. And we have a surveyor stamp as well. Oh, in the septic. Did I say that? I'm not sure. No, we state approval from the sept for a septic. If you have any questions, feel free to ask us. We'll answer to the best of our ability or get you the answer as a time. appreciate my board questions off this.

25:36 – 26:290

Well, I guess um just one of the questions I had is I think the the operational description that was provided was not really very clear um because I think that brining operation, you know, where it takes place, you know, where does the salt get delivered that's used in it? I mean a whole lot of that that especially that pertains the aquifer protection um would be helpful to have. So just so I understand the brining part is basically they use salt to make a a brine. Yes. which so it's it's less that obviously there they're bringing out to instead of putting down straight salt they're putting down this brine to their customers.

26:27 – 26:550

Yeah. That's what DOT is doing on the highways. Yeah. Just like you see some ahead of storms ideally. Yeah. It's more of a pre-treat, right? Yeah. And then melts as it hits safe. Yeah. So are they are they authorized certified as part of the New Hampshire green snow program? Is this part of that? I think that's certainly one of the elements, you know, of their training. Are you are you familiar with uh Yes. Yeah.

26:53 – 27:260

I think that program has done uh had made tremendous strides into reducing the amount of just oversaltting. Um and it's I I think it's a kind of a program that could be recognized across the nation as appropriate use of salt and um kind of liability management. So, thanks. So that's part of this is is you have customers that are this snow pro is it green snow pro, right? Green snow pro. Yes.

27:24 – 28:000

Which is, you know, teaching people to expertly apply salt so that you're not over applying. In the olden days, it was just turn it up because more salt meant less ice. And there's a a line where it's an appropriate amount of salt for the road and the speed and the people. and then it provides some liability protection for those applicants who comply with and follow the certification. And so it's something um that I think we should encourage as a community and as a state and as kind of users of our course. So you are a certified provider for that?

27:59 – 28:280

We are a certified provider and the trucks are computer controlled. So as the trucks go slower, it puts down less materials. The trucks go faster, it puts down more material. It logs everything up into the web back to the office. The office can lock out the operator from changing the controls. Um, I'll make a motion to accept application number 213-25 as complete. Second. All in favor.

28:30 – 28:480

I would like to say that we need to do a sitewalk. It would be good to see the site before we, you know, uh, consider approval.

28:52 – 29:350

Um, let's go. You ready? Got my headlamp. Yeah, we should do a Saturday morning. Yeah. Um, next meetings on the December 18th, I think 18. No, we pushed that one back because of conflict, right? Or no, that's December 18th is the next meeting twice in December or no, we'll talk about that after. I'm hoping not to. December 4th is not. We'll talk about it at the end. Sorry. jumping ahead.

29:34 – 30:160

Just for the record, when she schedules this for the 18th, you're not meeting on the 4th. Got it. Is there is there a tremendous time sensitivity to this project that um I I direct that question. I was hoping to put concrete in the ground by Christmas. So, yes. Well, the 18th is before Christmas, so I only have to look it down. sand. I thought it was the same. I thought it was old sand. You know, I think we should see the site. I I think it's important to see the site ahead of time.

30:12 – 30:350

The other consideration is whether third party engineering review should be required for the storm water and drainage. Kristen Hayden couldn't make it tonight, but she did send me an email um that she felt it would warranted to do a third party review. She wanted me to share that with you.

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Um, we can we get that started in parallel to scheduling the sitewide? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, because I would try to reduce the amount of time that they're waiting. Yeah, that's going to take several weeks with the holiday. Yeah. So, what day are we shooting? Can we do the six rather than the 13? What was that? The six for the site wall. Oh, okay. Sorry. The six time. Yeah.

31:23 – 32:040

Yeah. Six works. Does that work? But time works for you though. I mean this is down the street for me so I can I mean I work till noon but I can I can leave work to come down if morning before for 10:30. Sure. It's Friday. 10:30 on the 6th. Does that work? I am not here but my son will knows the project inside and out. He will be there with everybody to Okay. Okay. December 6th, I'm sorry. Yes. Yeah. 10:30 a.m. That night.

32:08 – 32:530

Um, so back to the site in your project. Do you do regular salting also a sanding that you keep salty or is everything just a brine? We don't do any sand or salt mix at all anymore. And straight salt. If we have to, it's picked up at uh dirt doctors on 106. So, no storage for for brining. It comes in, it's right off the truck into a bucket into the machine and gone. Nice. Where does the transfer of the brine happen? Is that on the ground or like is there opportunity for spilling when it gets transferred from

32:50 – 33:320

it's all via hoses you know so there there could be a gallon or two of spillage of what's in a hose uh but typically not it what remains in the hose because of suction I think that's some of the operational aspect and location on the plan that would be helpful to have yeah the machine and will be in the building. Mhm. That's all paved over to the proposed brining and storage area. Correct. Like the I'm seeing looks like there's parking spots. There's like two next to the brine

33:30 – 34:110

storage and then there's another one, two, three, four. Looks like more on that side. All the area in front of the brining uh building is in fact paved. Okay. shading so well on our printed copies. It's the sheet that Carrie's got up. It's this one here. The shade shade of tape or gravel gravel here and is all here. What What's gravel? Square box. Oh. Oh, okay. That square box is Okay, I see. Oh, yeah. It says proposed gravel storage.

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And to be clear, it's storage of what? It's not storage of gravel. It's a gravel surface for storage of equipment and vehicles. Yeah. Depends on storage. Are we storing gravel or like it's graveled? Yes. Storage area. So, I think it has like what you have stored out in front of the building now because you're on Robinson Road now, right? Yes. Yeah.

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Do we want to vote on the third party review? Yeah. Do you want to public hearing? No. No, we haven't. Let me do that actually. Uh, so this is a public hearing. Anybody from the public came to any comments or questions or just had nothing better to do tonight? I can do um I don't see any. I'll close the public hearing. I also don't think we made a motion for regional impact yet, do we? I'll make a motion that this does not have regional impact. Second in favor.

35:15 – 35:540

Want to make I can make a motion for the sitewalk for December 6th at 10:30. And I'll also make a motion uh to do the third party review for the water um drainage. Yes, drainage is supposed to do 10 a.m. instead of 10:30. Just fine by me. That's fine. 10 a.m. on the 6. So that is my motion. Okay, I'll second. All those in favor? I

35:55 – 36:370

any other questions about this before we continue question. Sorry. Um did it would it make sense to address the waiverss tonight or I think we should at least you don't necessarily have to vote on them but I think you should at least discuss them and let them know where you're on them. Thank you. So that they can respond if necessary. And then any we'll look through everything I think so that we don't want to have to continue another meeting. We want to make sure that they know exactly what their marching orders are for for December. Thank you. So he's looking for the waiver on the bills. That's section 15.10. Is that correct?

36:35 – 37:140

Um I think that's an old There's one waiver request dated November 20th. That's the one you want to look at. We went through a few versions before we landed on this version. The November 20th one is the one that includes the three. So 1509. So looking at the landscaping plan, it's better if we start with what they did provide. Um so they have one five trees across the front on either side of the driveway. And correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the extent of the landscaping, right? Five bushes. Well, grass. Grass. Okay.

37:12 – 37:560

Yeah. Even the ponds will be grassed at some point. Maybe you identify what trees you're proposing. I think you want it to grow up. It should be It says on the says it just says coniferous evergreen. There we go. On the trees. And also evergreen bush. That's all it says. White pine and dungeon. That's what they were proposing. I'm not sure that that necessarily I I don't think we do we have roodendrrons proposed or just the trees look like the trees. So those were probably just white pines.

37:56 – 38:400

Yeah. Yeah. Those are just this Oh, wait. No, there are more right in between them. There should be a couple right big ones. Okay. I'm going to zoom in. There they are. These little guys are the So the Oh, there we go. The quantities don't line up, right? No. Table. Oh, there's one rose, one RM, KL, KL, KL, RM. Okay, so there's two RM, three mountain laurel, a two roodendrin, and five white pines. That sounds Is that what's in the chart? The chart's not great. The chart shows 663. Yeah. Um in the direction.

38:37 – 38:550

Well, unless are there elsewhere. I I didn't see the other roads. We'll we'll check that. Let's put it that way. We'll make sure our planting list lines up with what's actually shown.

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I don't see anything else. Um so, as far as what our regulations require for landscaping, the areas where I felt were deficient in required waiverss were um 15.09 09D which is the street side structures landscape strip. So that would be along the perimeter of the building itself. Um so yeah that would be a strip basically right along the front of the building. Um visible from the public right away. So I would or say just the front would be what that would require. 15.09F 09F is the side and rear landscape strips which would go along basically the side property lines

39:41 – 40:210

and then the parking landscape strip would go probably like here. It's basically any to soften the area of a parking lot. So from the road there's not a lot of like straight into parking lot you see. So here or along the driveways probably would be where those would go. Um so those are the three that they've requested waiverss from which uh you have your do you have your snow storage on one of these? Yeah it is. That's on the regular site plan. Site plan.

40:19 – 40:490

Yeah. I was the areas may add up that I was wondering with with the I don't usually see or we don't usually see a the rectangle because they usually kind of line edges with it um because it's easier to put put things there. Um are you talking about the one right next to the entrance

40:47 – 41:320

right here? So, I mean, I make a couple additional comments here. It' probably be better because of the aesthetics with what Carrie was just talking about on the the landscape in the parking area. You got the dumpster is Yeah. bright. I would suggest you put it in maybe the opposite corner. Can do. Yeah. Because even with screening, it's still a dumpster with a fence around it. So that would be one right at the end. Yeah, that would be one suggestion. Thousand dumpsters around the corner from there. Oh, we know.

41:30 – 42:060

Yeah. Without a fence around it. Without a fence around. Brand new though. Nice dumpsters. Freshly painted. And then I mean the issue I see with like that landscaping on that front edge is it's gonna impact the snow storage area. So like I I would say I'm okay with not requiring that landscaping on that front edge.

42:04 – 42:410

Can we ask the owner because you're an expert in snow removal. Um the areas that are marked on the plant is that pract is that when an engineer drew on the plant or is that practical and where you would actually put the snow? That's practical and where it's actually going to go. And and we do stack all our snow because when I get frustrated I go out and play with a loader. How dare you suggest that there would be a difference between what an engineer would practical. She she did it artfully. We have a snow removal expert right here. So,

42:56 – 43:410

yeah. Any other thoughts about the landscaping? Are you comfortable with the waivers? You don't have to necessarily vote on them today, but give them some direction. Could you could you add a a shrub or something to that edge that Carrie was pointing out on that driveway? Like I think if you did that I think let's show us to make sure we're on the same page. Yeah. Right. Talking about there's also a maintenance sign. You know the there that you could put some vegetation some flowers. Maybe we don't have to change the numbers on our chart. We just just find six more. Yeah. I I think if you do that then that should be

43:36 – 44:150

to dress up the entrance a little too. Sense just looking to see if there's anything else we should bring up. I just have a I have a general question for the owner. Are you planning is it just going to be gated that back lot? Are you gating the whole thing like you currently do off of Robinson? There will be some type of gate at the front entrance. Don't know what that will consist of at this point yet, but um there will be some type of gate to at least allow a vehicle off the road, but then there will be a gate to keep people out of there. Yeah,

44:14 – 44:580

there's just too much equipment in there. Yeah, this is minor, but the sign height um still exceeds our maximum sign height. Um if you have it marked as 10 ft and our max sign height is eight, you can bring a ground up two feet. That's probably just an error on your part. It's going to be the exact same monument sign that's on Robinson just moving over to Dunley. And I think that height is five feet. Perfect. I think it said no more than 10, but so

44:550

he meant no more than five.

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And then let me just see if there's anything else we should discuss. As far as the aquifer protection district, the use doesn't require conditional use permit or anything like that. um they are still required to meet the the performance standards of the aquifer district. Um they did provide some information about that. Um some limited but basically I was a little confused because it listed some substances ammonia sodium hypocchlorite a bunch of things and then it says none of these items will be used or stored on site during regular operation. So, I wasn't sure what that meant.

45:41 – 46:060

I'm pretty sure I found those chemicals listed either on bow regulations or on the state. And I wanted to clarify all those things that are regulated or dangerous. Okay. When you listed them, it made me think that those were the things that you had. That's a list of things you don't have. There's no depleted uranium also.

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Um, okay. So that's helpful. So there will not be any regulated substances on the site. Um the only one we run into question about I don't see it exactly here is our ordinance says things in five gallons or more. And some and often times people write we won't store anything in anything over five gallons and it's but ours says five gallons or more. So I know 5 gallon is a common container size used. So um I don't know if there are already five gallon containers of substances used might be the person that

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containers come back in five gallon size but there's it's what's left. So it could be two gallons left in a five gallallon pale or three gallons left in a five gallon pale. What type of substances would that be? uh typically latex paint, maybe soap. So, I don't think I don't believe those would be in our list of regulated substances probably. Um, do you guys want to look at the what the building is going to look like?

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Sure. A little picture. So, they Oops. Sorry. A little bigger. Sorry. Yeah, he can't wait till this thing ends. He's staring at the clock the whole time. So, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's mostly metal with stone at the bottom.

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Yes. Yes. So that meets our requirement that it not be 100% metal on the front face. So it helps break it up. I would say that those are subtle neutral colors. Yep. Looks good. There's windows. It'll fit well in a neighborhood. All right. Anything else to be discussed about ready for next time? No, I think we're pretty good. Anybody questions?

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Let me make a motion to continue. I'll make a motion to continue application 213-25. 213-25 to the December 18th. Second favor. I see six amending. Okay. Thank you.

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Thank you. Okay.

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Um just a quick master plan steering committee um update is the survey is still out there and live and we're just working on getting it into as many people's hands as possible. earlier this week. I heard just over 300 responses, so hopefully it can get some more. It just got published in the B Times this week, right? Um so hopefully that'll give it a little bump. And then we posted it on the town Facebook again this week, too. So if anybody wants to share that or like it, I know Melanie is getting into school. She came and picked up a pack of stuff from us to distribute. So, um, I know the elementary school sends out a letter on Fridays to everyone and I did see it in the high school one. So, okay.

50:39 – 51:220

Oh, good. And it went out in the recreation um, email blast, too. So, reaching as many people as possible. If anyone has any other ideas of places you haven't seen it, where it should be, let me know. I have some flyers. I have postcards. I have I have paper copies. More postcards from I have paper copies of the survey. If there's people who don't want to do it electronically, um, anyone wants to walk around and hand them out and the 55 and older communities, you're welcome to, whatever it takes. We've got stuff at the library. I still have a few of them left that I'll leave at the turkey trot next week. So, good.

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Cool. So, anyway, we can get those out. What's the next meeting? I can look. December. It's the 9th, which is Yeah, the select board meeting and I have to be there. So, I knew that was gonna happen.

51:35 – 52:150

I might have to, too. Um, so that's that. And then as far as our next meeting, we have one scheduled for the December 4th. I don't know if we need it. We seem to be in a pretty good place with zoning amendments. Um, after our last meeting, they seemed like they were ready to go. Um, Sandy and I need to get together and work on some wetlands things. Um, so I don't know if we want to just schedule a first public hearing. If we want to just add that to the meeting on the 18th and we can have a second public hearing if we need it if we make changes. But what else is on the schedule right now for the

52:14 – 52:590

So we have an Eversource conditional use permit and we'll have this one to finish up and then we have a very minor modification that Okay. It was a building you already approved. It's just going to be a little smaller. So that should be easy. But no, you have to make it. Um, so it's not a loaded loaded meeting. So do we we want to put that on the on the doc first public hearing? I think that'd be a good idea. And then we have plenty of time to schedule a second one if we need it still. And again, it gets it out of the way. Okay. before we get to crunch time

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when we get holidays. And was it the January one that got changed? That must have been when I was getting confused. Yes. Changed the January meeting. We pushed it. Yeah. So, we can use that meeting in January for a second public hearing if we need it. Yeah. But then, you know, if that snowstorms and whatever else comes up between now and town meeting, it's good to get it out of the way. So, we will not meet on the 4th. We'll send a reminder and cancel that and we'll put all that on the 18th. Sounds good. Sounds good. All right. I think all that's left are minutes.

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Yeah. I'm looking at them on my phone cuz I get they weren't I don't think they were printed. Yeah, they weren't in They weren't in your pack. No. Uh oh. If if you want to wait, we can do this. I'm so sure I have them in front of them. We'll make sure those get printed for next time as well. Next time. Next time.

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One more motion. I move that we adjourn. Second. All in favor?

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