Planning Board - Regular Meeting

All right, great.

Welcome. This is the May 21st, 2026 meeting of the Go Planning Board. Sandy Crystal, I'm Acting Chair, standing in for Don Berube, the Chair.

Chris Nikolopoulos, Light Program.

Matt Monahan filling in for Carrie.

Casey DiStefano for Hopkilling Road.

Michael Lawton III, Asa Drive. Jonathan Petrangelo V, Whittier Drive.

Kristen Hayden to Colonial Terrace.

Okay. All right. We have a very full agenda and a number of variety of projects. I wanted to suggest that we take the Eversource Energy Project. It's an urgent replacement of a couple of polls. So if you want, is the board okay with that?

Yeah.

Okay.

That's a way to speed up your night, huh?

Yeah, it is. Thank you so much, and we'll be quick for everybody else. As quick as possible, everybody. Appreciate the glory.

Thank you. Does anyone need plans? That could be pretty consistent with other projects that you've seen. Yes, sir? Lindsay Tower with GCA. Kurt Nelson with Eversource Energy. Here for a clinical use permit for upcoming pole replacements. Just two pole replacements along the C196 and one on the Q171 transmission lines. These poles were identified during routine inspections that they need to be replaced as soon as possible. It's due to obvious pole splitting and wood rot that's on the interior of the poles. So not quite an emergency, but need to be replaced much sooner than later. It does require temporary impacts in the wetlands conservation overlay district, and that is for access and work pad matting to the wetlands, and consistent with prior scopes that you've seen for routine replacements.

Can you show the map?

Okay.

Can you show the map?

Do you want the GIS map?

Do you know the map that Eversource provided?

Which one?

It's the...

You can see Eversource will utilize temporary timber matting consistent with past projects. And so GZA will have an environmental scientist out on site during construction. So it should be a quick turnaround project.

How long do you expect? So I would expect just a couple of days work. Oh, this is continued, so we decided that it was completion. Application number four, square feet of temporary wetland impact in 2,883 square feet of temporary wetland. Completed this first. Oh, well, I thought we did complete this last time, which is... Any comments? Okay, I'll close the public hearing.

There are no other findings from the Conservation Commission, it looks like?

The Conservation Commission did not provide comments. I mean, they intentionally did not provide comments.

Okay.

Okay. Didn't help.

So I'm just a little confused from the staff side of things. I thought this was a new application. I didn't think this was a continued one. We have the two from Orenco Plaza that were continued, but this was a new application this month. From what I understand. It is a new application. No, it is.

It is new. Okay. I'm sorry. All right. Then we need a motion to say that it's complete.

I'll make a motion that 403-26

Okay. Just doing things a little out of order. It's cool. You know what? Just because I took it out of order and it said continued on any other applications.

It's a big agenda, that's for sure.

All right.

Any other comments from the rest of the board? If not, I'll make a motion to approve COP 403-26. Second.

All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Oh, yeah. And we went through that it's the, we have enough regular people to vote. Yeah, I'm not voting. As long as Chris doesn't. Right. Okay. Any opposed?

She didn't.

She didn't. She didn't.

Okay. It's a lot of work.

Okay. We're okay. Did you guys, I think, just... Oh, go through, yes.

We also need to do the findings of fact, right? Yes.

Yes.

The proposed activity is to replace infrastructure, which is necessary for keeping up the power supply. It also, there are actions taken to minimize degradation to the wetland resources and wetland buffers. Activity also minimizes environmental impacts of budding downstream properties

and our regulations, our ordinance.

So I make those findings a fact. Okay.

So I want to second that.

Second.

All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Is that okay? You're all set? Okay.

All righty. Thank you so much for your time. Appreciate it.

Thank you.

Okay, now we'll go back to the front. First, the public hearing is for application 202-26, 1494-3A, LLC, site plan for two proposed contractor bay buildings, 180,400 square feet and 13,990 square feet at Morocco Plaza. And this, we held, there was a joint conservation commission planning board site walk held last Monday. This past Monday. It's been a long week.

All right, good evening, both planning board members of the board. My name is Jason Hill again with TF Moran. Just here to update you on the project. We, as Sandy's mentioned, had a site walk on Monday. It was productive. I recall a few of you were at the walk. In conclusion, and you can go through the measures, but the Conservation Commission recommended a couple of conditions. Support the conditional use permit for the site plans I went through that last month so I can review any details that you may need but essentially Agreed to Restore the so we have a temper some small impact associated with the outlet of a detention system And we've agreed to provide restoration plantings in those areas to mitigate the effects of the impacts. So essentially we'll be planting some grasses and some native shrubs at the outlet and a small area adjacent to the existing driveway, which is also, the driveway happens to encroach in the buffer, so we'd be supplementing what's there with those restoration plantings. Otherwise, the third-party review is prepared, completed, We've responded for stormwater and it was pretty simple comments. I think it was five or six that we've addressed. The result of that is I had to change one pipe, upsize it by one, you know, small amount. So there's no plan changes to the I that, you know, there's no observable change to the plan presented other than the restoration plantings that we're committing to make. And finally, I submitted a waiver. for cover over a small of the segment of pipe at the bottom for the new drainage system. The town has a four foot minimum cover. It's actually in the subdivision regulations, but because of the elevation of the wetlands, which sets the elevation of our detention pond, so there'd be a couple of short segments of pipe that have less than the four feet of cover. And as such, which is common, we encounter in New Hampshire because of ground conditions on a lot of projects. So we are just going to insulate those segments of pipe to account for frost. And so that's the update. And so we'd like to hopefully get it approved tonight so we can begin working towards breaking ground. Thank you.

Do you have information, more specific information, about the restoration plantings or what kind of seed mix you use?

Well, I would propose, and I'm not a landscape architect, but I think the proximity of the wetlands, I would probably use a New England wet restoration mix. That's what we typically do in situations like this. So that's the grass mix I'd use, which includes some, you know, seedlings. And then I was going to supplement that with... maybe some dogwood or highbush or something, blueberry, and maybe just maybe one other small container shrub. But that's typical for what we'd be looking to do there, yeah.

Okay. So as part of some of the changes that you've made to the drainage report, it looks like you've upsized some pipes. Did that change your pre- and post-close? No. Everything's okay?

I think we had one or two pipes that went from a 15 to an 18.

It's hard to see on this tiny little plant.

I'm sorry. Is that how we submitted it to you?

Probably not.

I can't really see the language, unfortunately. I'm sorry about that.

No, it's not your fault.

Anybody else have any questions? And I think we may have had a public hearing.

I got a quick one. And Jay, I know you sent your, you addressed the responses that Jeff had. So Carrie did leave me some notes on a few things. And that was the one thing she had said is awaiting third party review. So you guys received it. You did your response back. Does the board want to have him, Jeff, take one last quick look at it? They were pretty simple.

Yes.

He actually has it now. He does. Yeah, we responded like last Friday. I got the comments maybe last Thursday. We responded last Friday. Okay. And I checked in with him last night.

So I don't suspect there to be any... We can make it a condition.

Absolutely.

That all the comments are addressed.

We have no problem with that whatsoever. Okay.

Perfect.

Yeah, it looks... Yeah, because I think they're in your packet, everybody. And there's only one, two... There's only about nine of them and they look... Pretty straightforward.

I'll open it to the public now. So this is the 1494 Route 3 ALC La Rocca Plaza site plan. We also have the CUP, right? That's what I was thinking. Maybe we should... although Jason addressed some of the wetland CUP.

You could do both of them together, but just make sure you do the findings of fact as well so that they track separately.

All right, well, let me, I'll just... open the public hearing for the site plan application for this project and we have the wetland conditional use permit as well for I have the number in front of me for the impact in the wetland buffer only.

Oh, yeah.

CUP 402-26. Yes, thank you.

The application number? Yeah. Yeah, the site plan was 202-26 and the CUP was 402-26.

402-26, right. So does anybody have any? No comments from the public?

So there's two waiver requests, am I correct? One for the parking and one for the connection with the proposed improvements for Section 7.02.B, drainage.

That's the depth to the pipe, is that, or is that just...

It's the, yeah, it's the...

Three feet approximately, maybe just under as it transitions from four plus to roughly three feet. Most of the network has the four feet and it's just at the lowest reach that enters into the pond where the site flattens out at the bottom of the hill.

So under the driveway, does it have less than the 4 feet? Yes. Under the pavement?

Yeah, it has about 3 feet. But the pipes are, you know, the ADS stuff, so they can support the loads at as shallow of steps as even 15 inches. So there's no concern about loading on them. There's no concern about frost action. And we're just minimizing, it would require a wetland impact to outlet everything, so it's out of those combinations.

An effort to minimize impacts.

Yeah.

Okay. And where, I know you gave the packet that, does it have the Conservation Commission comments in it? Oh, you can see it. The special page, I can't print it out. This one here. That's the second one. All right, thank you. Yes, that was the condition of ferry requiring the restoration and the vegetation vegetation of impacts and reduction or elimination of maintainable and areas one areas within the wetland buffer So that's the area Jason to the driveway. Is there anything added for the removal of the invasive species plants?

To the plan I haven't updated the plan to include the final restoration plantings that I'll submit to Carrie, but I'll have a note that shows what we looked at in the field, that has to be any invasives that are encountered shall be removed and disposed of properly. So we will definitely do that.

Yeah, it was mostly bittersweet. Was it all bittersweet on the ground, too? And the olive. Wasn't there the olive? Autumn olive, yes. Yeah, autumn olive.

This was a continuum, so we already, I think we already did the, on this one, we did do the regional impact and the complete. For both applications. Yes. Okay, cool. And then we did the site walk. That's what we did.

Site walk post, well, you guys did the site walk. And it would just be. Right.

And then no regional impact. Right.

And I would just add, when somebody makes a motion, just make sure to just cite the conditions, the new ones that were added to it after the findings are back.

The only other thing, I think we addressed this, but I just want to go through it again, was the concern from the fire chief on the Second building. Oh, the proximity, then around the whole thing, was that the last? Yeah. I know we talked about it a little bit, but did we resolve that concern with the response? Because I think the intent was it wasn't going to be. I'm sorry. The owner said that he wasn't going to have anything hazardous in there, right?

Yeah, so we're not planning to store any regulated Or hazardous materials as part of this in that second plan use And we did as part of the set. I submitted the city to town the town fire truck template turning movement plan that shows that he can Circulate the site and exit the site So that's a part of the submittal package that it was provided to the town We could make that condition That verifies that.

No storage regulated materials. I can't remember. Are you referring to that building in a certain way other than by the square feet?

The spec flex. Yeah, the flex industrial. Is that what you're referring to?

Well, it was the one... One-story flex space, 3990 square feet.

Yeah, that's the upper building, yep.

Okay, you need to, yeah, so there are the two waivers.

Two waivers.

That's the parking.

I've got three conditions with the, species. Am I missing anything there? So the three conditions that I have would be the condition for the restoration and revegetation of the temporary impacts and the reduction or elimination of the maintained lawn areas in the wetland buffer. The second condition would be final review of our third-party engineer of the responses in the third condition would be the um no um no storage no storage in the flex industrial building the second building um yeah i said that could be as in

potentially in quantities of larger than 100 gallon containers or whatever is the overriding zoning cutoff. Because if he has a small oil, someone to have a small oil that you buy from Lowe's for, like, a lawnmower or something like that. It could be considered hazardous. I think that should be specified that there has to be large quantities.

Yeah, we have our aquifer protection ordinance has quantities, and I can't remember...

The line cuts kind of through the site. I don't think we're actually developing in the district, but I think it's... The building itself isn't on the site. The woods, yeah.

Oh, okay.

I guess we're generally okay with that condition about hazardous materials not being stored inside the building.

Do you think five gallons would be appropriate? For some reason, that pops into my head.

Right.

Could you say like... Yeah, I mean, I'm not really a big fan of that storing stuff, but yeah, somebody might have like a lot more gas can or diesel.

Just incidental product that they use for their business.

Like no bulk storage, like 55-gallon drums or something like that.

Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. That's all. Bulk storage.

There won't be enough fuel load there. That small quantity, not enough fuel load.

I want to see if there's a reference, Sandy, to it.

Yeah, the aquifer protection.

Yeah, I'm trying to grab it so I can just do a word search.

Five gallons. Well, they talk about regulated substances and five gallons of more must be stored in a certain way. So I'd say five gallons.

The way that I'll word it is no added bulk storage of hazardous material greater than five gallon container in flexible space.

A little bit.

That should be fine.

Then I guess also with the seed mix, if we can kind of specify that New England restoration mix.

Yes. Yep.

Sometimes we've had folks come in and suggest other mixes that have non-native stuff in them. Absolutely.

Just the waivers first. So make a motion for the waiver requested for the parking and also the waiver requested for the two-foot cover overall pipe as stated in Regulation Section 7.02.B.

All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Do you want me to do the next one too?

Yep.

You went through them all in your head once. You already had it down once.

So, I'm going to do both of them together. With the conditional use as well. Sure. All right. So, for... application 202-26 and the associated conditional use permit 402-26 make a motion to approve based on the following conditions the first being a final review by our third party engineer of the responses and The second condition regarding no added bulk storage of hazardous materials greater than five gallon containers in the flex industrial building. The third condition being the requiring of restoration and revegetation of the temporary impacts and the reduction or elimination of the maintained lawn areas within the wetland buffer utilizing New England restoration mix And lastly, adding the note of proper removal of any invasive species during

I second. I want to just mention that in that restoration that there are also added plantings as was described

Excuse me? Was it the blueberry and the...

It was blueberry, dogwood, and yeah. And I think you were thinking that there's probably a third one or something as well. All right. Second. Okay. Yeah. All those in favor of the conditions say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. And then I'll do the approval. Well, oh, so were you doing the approval with those conditions? Yes. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, that's who I ordered it.

Okay. All right, yeah, findings of fact.

So with respect to the waivers, I'd say the findings of fact is that due to the site constraints and the seasonal high groundwater table and the adjacent wetland elevations that the two foot cover floor equivalent is sufficient Finding a fact for the parking. Basically, this is an addition to existing building space that's there, and they're limited on space sizes. So the requirement of 60 spaces doesn't make sense for that space. So that's addressing the two waivers. As far as the use, I would say that the use for the space is adequate for the location of the project.

The mixed use district?

Yes, mixed use district.

Second. All those in favor of the findings effect? Aye. Aye. Opposed? All right. I think you're all set. Thank you.

Appreciate it. Nice to see you out. No, I just, I'm a note taker, so I don't know.

Next on the agenda, application number 502-26, Timothy Paulson, proposed lot line adjustment, location 68 and 76 Woodhill Road.

So my name is Tim Polson, 68 Woodhill Road, presenting our application for a lot line adjustment with our neighbor Gretchen DePass, 76 Woodhill Road, lot 4A and 4. Looking to annex approximately 4.57 acres from lot 4 into lot 4A. No change of use anticipated, no closed modifications to the property, just a land annexation is what we're looking to do with Gretchen.

So the first thing we need to do is decide if the application is complete, and I know that there are So were any additional waivers submitted, Matt? Because I see that there are two on the subdivision checklist requirements.

Yeah, so I was going to say, I think we got nine waivers in. I don't think you sent in any additional ones after that.

I received the letter, I think, on Friday that you had prepared. So I didn't know if I needed to respond to that before this meeting or not.

So the big one, just really quick, that I saw on there is there's a checklist item that talks about the right-of-way stuff. And it's weird because if you look at the way that front property line is, You like can't do the additional, you know, so if you look at the survey and just zoom in the bottom left hand corner, you can see we're right there. That's the right away with and you can kind of see where it's about 100 feet wide, where it says variable width to the left, but then it gets into here, and at first glance, it's like, okay, maybe that does require the land donation to the town. But if you carry that line over, you can kind of see, it's like right on top of the building. But, and I think this is to answer your question, Sandy, it's basically to figure out if we need this waiver request or not. But if you go down, can you just scroll down a little, Will? you'll see right there it says permanent right-of-way easement, and it's got a book and page. So presumably that right-of-way easement recognizes the constraint there, and that's probably why it's read as permanent. So I think... I guess I would ask, do you know what that deed says?

So I know a little bit about it. So our house is 1830s-ish, house across the street. The two houses across the street are same era. I believe it was historically a 66-foot right-of-way between our house and the house right across the street. In 1989, when the land around us, Gretchen's land, was subdivided off of our parcel, seven feet were deeded to the town in a permanent right-of-way easement. 80 feet of right away if you took something on the other side as well, which I'll say would put you into the living room of our neighbor across the street, which is crazy for both sides of the road.

Yeah. So I mean, I think with that, for your benefit, it would probably be better to have a waiver request in on that item. Because I mean, man, that's

I'll be honest, it didn't occur to me to need to put in a request for that, but I agree. If that's needed, I certainly.

Okay, and then the other item was, and it was noted that it could be a condition of approval of the FEMA flood status.

Yeah, you can just throw the, there's like a book and page, a book and page, yeah, got diesel. A panel. A map and a panel, yeah, thank you. The FEMA maps will tell you whatever.

Yep, I saw, I spoke with our surveyor and we can get that added, that's not a problem. We can we can certainly add that add that note to the to the plan I think there were three or there were four other notes on the next page as well as far as checklist requirements Receive a copy of the second document indicating the lots will be flagged for inspection that's a checklist item and what that used to be like a

I've been at the Planning Commission 20 years, and Bill Klubben, taking a name out of the past, he used to have literally a separate sheet saying, we will flag it for inspection. that's like what's stuck in my head from bill club and time. Um, so I mean, honestly, it's a question. Do you guys really need it? Um, completeness is all about, is there enough information to make an informed decision? Um, so I mean, Yeah, I think that is probably not a big deal for that one Now if he was doing like a huge site plan I mean you see with the layout of the corners of the building are in relation that it's a different story But we're talking about a lot line adjustment here Adding adding more land to the lot that's Kind of restricted right, right. Yep. I

All right. Um, data listing.

Yeah, that's just the stats about the lot and stuff that can easily be a condition.

So, and just to clarify that, I guess the, uh, when I, when I looked up that specific section that I thought that talked about listing the butters, which, uh, works at the. Yeah, so I wasn't sure what needed to be included because all the immediate abutters to both parcels are included. We do include a lot area table. And then I do have a waiver in for some of the other criteria that's typically in that lot data table as far as slopes greater than 25%. So obviously there's a waiver in for that. So if the waiver's not approved, then obviously that would be what you needed.

Yeah, hold on. Let me just cross-reference what you got there really quick just to double check. So that is, the data listing, 38. So yeah, so it's got land, area of land subdivided, number of lots. So I just want to throw out, I was doing like literally 11 reviews in four days. So let me see. So area of land subdivided. Yep. So you got acres, you got square footage. It looks nice.

It's just dangerous. Yeah, it's what proof before and after after the adjustment between the two the two parcels.

Yeah Yep. Yeah, you got your butters around the thing around the law the number of lots you're yeah, you're creating zero The length of streets. Yeah, I think I agree with you. Those are in a you're not doing any new streets So they probably scratch down on them Yeah Yeah

operational brief it's just a project narrative again you know my thought was that i my interpretation was that was for major subdivisions only and with it being a lot line adjustment i i didn't think that certainly could do that if needed but uh i mean that that was yeah it's yeah it's a basic lot line adjustment so yeah i personally don't think an operational brief is necessary right yeah yep

And then the lot table. Yeah, you mentioned that it could be a condition of approval, which... What is the lot table exactly?

So that's a different... I may have gotten ahead of myself on the...

There's a lot area table on it.

I mean, there's a data listing one. Yeah, I don't know if the checklist is asking for the same thing twice, but I think if he's got 38 covered, then he's got 45 covered, too. Right, yes.

And then my last question is, you had talked about it being flagged for inspection. What kind of inspection is that exactly?

What that used to be was, like, there would be, like, the flags, like, subdivisions, like, you know, four or more or whatever. They typically drop the flags at the corners, like, literally a stake with a flag. Corners of buildings on site plans would be done or, you know, parking areas. way bigger than what he's doing.

Are there bounds out there today?

Yeah, so the bounds around the existing properties are flagged. The iron rods for the new lot line have not been set yet because we don't want to get ahead of anything. Yes, exactly. So as far as the... The new lot line that is not currently flagged, I can tell you, there's a logging road on the right side of the property that follows the stone wall.

That's what that long piece is.

Yes. And then basically it comes to the tree line and then her horse paddock. There's that weird curve you can see in it. That's eight foot offset from the horse paddock.

So if you get approval tonight, you anticipate that you would be going out and setting bounds for that? Yes. Not tonight, but yes. Yeah, but if you get the approval this evening, that would be... That would be perfect. That's a condition. Oh, sure.

Yeah.

That's all. Okay.

They don't set bounds for other subdivisions before it's approved.

You got to go out there. Come on. Come on.

Get on it. Okay. So with that flagging requirement, I think the intent... At least from Carrie was that it was for if you guys decided to do a site site walk. Yeah, you would see that. Yeah, that's exactly.

Okay. Thank you.

Yep.

Yeah, we've often asked that during the meeting when the site walk is scheduled.

Actually, you know what? As a, for instance, do you remember last time I was filling in, there was a, it was, I can't remember what the name of the site was, but they had to go under the bridge, like the I-93 bridge, and it was off to the left. And we did a site walk, and they literally had the thing, like, flagged out. Who was a surveyor?

Was that the Amber Bow? That must be down the road, yeah. I'm thinking Amber Bow.

It was Amber Bow, yes.

Yeah, the beginning of it.

And it was way in the woods and he literally went and he dropped it. Not anymore. Parking lots now. Is it? Black buildings. But that's exactly, yeah.

Yeah, we usually, that's usually been arranged before we do a site walk type of thing. Okay. So I guess we're still trying to figure out whether it's complete enough to accept it.

So I think the one thing, the one statement that you made that would be beneficial to Tim was that he might want to come back and request a waiver for that easement or deed of easement.

Or for substandard right-of-way, I think is the... Yeah, the nature of that easement substandard right-of-way.

I think that... So will we not accept it for completeness then until we receive that or how do you go about that?

You know what you could do? You could do DRI tonight. You could continue it pending that waiver next month. Those are kind of the choices I would say. And Yeah, if it were me, I would want that waiver. Absolutely. So, yeah, so I would recommend, you know, just continue it to next month for that waiver request. And, you know, you can do, like I said, you can put in a general impact tonight if you wanted to do that. If what? Regional impact. Regional impact.

Oh, regional impact. Okay. You can still do that if it's not complete? Yeah?

Mm-hmm.

Okay. I make a motion that just has no regional impact. I'll second it.

Any comments? All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. And so I guess we need a motion to continue.

I'd like a motion to continue application 502-26 to the next planning board meeting, which is on... June 8th.

Is it June 18th? Oh, I'm not sure. Let me see.

It's June 18th. June 18th.

All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed?

Okay.

All right. Thank you.

Okay, next application.

is application number 503-25, J.E. Belanger, Land Surveying, POLC, proposed lot line adjustment, location 163, Hooksett Turnpike, map 2, block 4, right here.

You jumped over it. 50426, the conditional use permit.

Oh, okay. It's 503-25 and there are two. Oh, okay. Put the same thing. It's the same property.

There's a lot line adjustment and a wetland CEP. Okay. Sorry.

Look at this.

because it's such a small thing, you never see it.

Yeah, it also fits in that corner. It's much easier to sit over here. The screen's really far away. Yeah. All right, do you want to?

Jump in. Thank you for having us. My name is Jacques Belanger. I'm the surveyor that prepared this. The owner is my son, Taylor Belanger. What we have is we're doing a lot of adjustment in the town of Belanger. Taylor owned a lot in Hopkinton that at one point incorporated the lot 21 in Bowdoin, New Hampshire. A previous owner let it go for back taxes. Taylor bought the property and we've met with the selectmen and dealt with them, come up with an arrangement to buy a portion of the land. The reason that portion's important is there's septic systems on it when it was the previous owner. The backyard is part of it. So it's kind of part of the lot. This likely didn't want to part with the whole thing, so we cut the lot on adjustment. So there is one thing that's different between the plans, a couple of things, between the plans I've given you and what's up on the screen. After we prepared this plan, the town had done a voluntary merger. We had talked about it and I totally slipped my mind on it. It's that rectangle lot identified as 2420. The town merged the two of those together into 21. I believe they did that because the lot line adjustment would have created a lot without any frontage for lot 21. So both town lots just merged them together. The paved turnaround for the end of the maintenance part of Hobson Turnpike that Bo takes care of is on that track. We did do a site walk the Conservation Commission to go over the CUP application and also mislabeled the setback buffer. The 50-foot is actually a 75-foot. So that pretty much encumbers everything that Taylor was getting is going to be inside that CUP, that buffer, because of 75-foot. Even the point that goes out, one side overlaps with the other. So pretty much the entire thing is encapsulated by the buffer. I met with the Conservation Commission on Monday, I think it was Monday, and talked about the application. And they came with the agreement that there's a chicken shed, a chicken coop, excuse me, a climbing structure, and a small shed. And because the small shed was as close as it was to the wetlands, they'd like to see that removed, so agreed to remove the shed. And also because everything is pretty much lawn and everything is incumbent by buffer, instead of putting the plackets up at the buffer, we can actually mount it on a metal fence post at the wetland flag locations. So a little more durable than just the plackets nailed on a tree. We've got proposing five pounds to be set around it. And I think that's about it. That's the entire thing.

I guess we need to make, accept the application as complete or refused.

Second.

Any discussion on that? Right. Well, like they said, the registry of dealers doesn't want, doesn't accept.

On the contours? Yeah. So really quick on that. Yeah. I mean, they don't, it's technically on the checklist, but like I said, the registry won't take it with contours. You've actually got one. I didn't have those. Oh, you do.

You're right.

Oh my gosh. There we go. You nailed it. So we're good. There was a question about the well. Also, the well was missing. It actually wasn't. It's. In front of the garage, it's actually in the right of way. This lot is really... There's a lot jammed into this.

It's an interesting conundrum.

It's taking seven years to get here.

We did not vote.

We did not vote, right? That's what I thought.

There is a motion and there is a second.

Right, for completeness. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay. One of the, I know what the Conservation Commission had suggested, but I think that given that normally in a new situation, there'd be a 75-foot buffer, that it would be good to establish some buffer in at least some of the areas that you have a little more room. And so I was thinking, the back line that's parallel to the road, like opposite the leach field there. Sure, but then 46. You could not worry about the buffer at that corner, which is narrow. I agree with moving the shed as mentioned, but then pick up and do as you go around the curve, re-establish a buffer, and I think you have, you showed extent of lawn at the back. So there is existing buffer.

Well, it overlaps. The 75 would overlap from one side to the other. There's just not enough dry land.

Right, but you could mark the buffer at the edge of the lawn, right?

You just want to put placards there? I mean, they wouldn't be to 75 foot.

Right. It's less than 75 feet. Yeah, I'm not looking to get 75 feet.

A couple of placards around.

I would just say, especially, you know, because that area is not developed, I think that that would be marked. You know, the other thing is that we talk to you as the landowner now, but our decision carries on to subsequent landowners. So I'm thinking of, okay, so the next person that gets that, that purchases that land or whatever, you know, what are they going to see or understand sort of goes with it. So, and with some of that buffer area, I wasn't thinking of 75 feet. I was thinking of, you know, 10 feet, 15 feet.

I mean, I'm not sure how much you can do in

Those areas, the area opposite the week field, obviously, we don't want to get into the grading of the reach field and stuff just at our discretion. Well, I guess maybe maybe, you know, do you have a thought about a distance that. right now it's kind of he has cut some of the pines back that kind of grew up more wispy and we talked about that when I was like pile those up and I'm thinking more about shrub type of things then because I know you had talked about cutting trees and my thought is well if you cut trees there should be some good vegetative cover and so shrubs would be fine you probably move Just let it go. Well, you could let it go natural. I mean, the other thing is just not mow, but it would be good to mark the area.

All right. Well, what I could do is I could put some out there. We'll set the bounds. We'll throw some plackets out. We'll show you where they are on the plan, I guess, and you can decide if that's going to be adequate. And if you want a few more, we'll go put a couple more on.

Well, I think it's also the distance, not just the number.

Yeah, but I mean the range, separation.

What are you picturing in your head?

Yeah, I guess we need directions.

This is 60 feet. This is 60 feet here. So if you do 10, that gives them 50 feet. If you do 20, I feel like it's getting a little narrow. Right, we're right.

So I'd say 10 feet along that line parallel to the road.

From the rear line forward 10 feet?

I'm sorry? Yes.

From the rear line forward 10 feet? Okay, sure.

Yes, forward 10 feet, right, from the rear line.

And then maintain the existing edge of lawn on the remainder of the property.

Right, I think the area that's sort of behind the shed as it curves to go, I think it's south that we're looking at, that there should be some increasing buffer over there. I know that there are some probably large tree stumps that... that are existing, and I would just say if you can plan around it and mark it. Anything else from anybody? I see one of the checklist items is the FEMA floodplain.

I've added that. I've added the note. It's kind of a fuzzy floodplain. Everything that's not wetland is in the floodplain, and it pretty much stops at the boundary of the uplands. I did add the panel in the note six. And it's a panel that came into effect actually last year.

Right. It was just, we voted on it at a town meeting.

It's not on that plan.

Okay.

Not the one on the screen.

Yeah, it's on this one, yeah. Right, right. So do you show the flood?

I didn't show the line. It's just too much of a jumbled mess. I understand. It's with the boundary line, wetlands line, tree line, lawn line. It's just one more.

I don't know, too, if, like, the registry, like, they don't like lines on top of lines, so they probably would have an issue with it. Yeah, especially Merrimack.

Rochester's worse. Rockingham, excuse me.

What have we done so far?

Well, we've done the completeness.

I need to open the public hearing, actually. All right, let me open the public hearing on two numbers here, sorry. Application 503-25, proposed lot line adjustment. And actually we have the... After the fact, Wetland CUP 405-26. Anybody here provide any comment?

Yes, I'm Greg Coates. I live at 8 Sullivan Drive, across the creek from this property. I'm just curious. I'm not familiar with this. The acquisition of that land is for what purpose?

So I can speak to the Select Board's view of that. The Select Board of Bow Much like the town of Hopkinton received this land, both parcels of land through tax deeds. The town of Hopkinton had a house on it and ultimately sold that property. Taylor asked the town of Bow to do the same and to sell us the remaining lot. The selectmen were happy to provide the curtilage around the house so that he could have a meaningful yard, but didn't want to give up all of that space that was now part of Bowe's open space. And so the select board made an arrangement, agreement with Taylor to kind of provide him the reasonable space around the house, but to preserve the vast majority of the space for open space in the town of Bowe.

So most of that area being acquired is not developable?

The area that we're selling to him? No. I would say the whole thing.

It's, you know, all within the 75-foot wetland buffer. Yeah.

All right. Well, that satisfies any concern I might have had, so I'd encourage you to improve it. Thank you. All right. Thank you.

My question, because I live next door to him.

Oh, you want to stand up and give us your name?

It's Michael Milano at 6 Sullivan Drive, but my leach field goes directly with his, where his swimming pool also would be affected by any particular new drainage. Is there a new drainage system actually being put in? A new leach field or anything to that nature that would actually flood that area? No. Okay. I'm satisfied. It's coming out.

Low area.

I want to see a nice beautiful pool sink into the ground.

All right. Any more comments?

So I was just going to ask about the Hopkinton side of things. Have you guys...

I guess you've talked to Karen quite a bit about this.

It's been going on like seven years. So yeah, her and I have been in touch quite a bit on it throughout the years.

I guess, do you talk to them about going to a public hearing? She's well aware of it. I don't know if we have to go to the planning board or not. I think you might. I think there's an informational thing probably just to keep them on top of it. I think there's supposed to be a note on here too that the lot won't be developed or anything.

Speaking of the registry, yeah.

Yeah, plus we're also on the town line with Bob Hopkinton. But just as clarification, the town of Hopkinton never took it for taxes. I'm sorry, I misunderstood. No, no, they, uh, they...

They kind of dropped the taxes to zero and let the lady ride it out. Oh. So she had it, there was a ton of liens on it, so I bought it technically from the banks.

I apologize for misstating that.

That's fine. You didn't think they would have. Yeah.

Tax-free, huh? Okay. Um... So, um...

in the application 503-25 does not have a regional impact, because I'm pretty sure we have to do that.

But they do need to go potentially see Hoppington, right? Because it has...

So does it have impact? Yeah, I mean...

So if Hoppington... So all regional impact results in is really another month, right? So you would get feedback from the town, and I would think if you guys were already getting on the agenda with those guys and talking to them, I mean, it's all about facilitating communication. Like, it doesn't actually cause...

We're not doing anything that's going to be a traffic issue.

Yeah, and I think it could be reasonable to say, as long as you guys are getting on the agenda, talking to them, and getting them to review, and you can deal with that in a condition, right? That you go before the Hopkins Planning Board and address that.

That's one of the recommended conditionals, right, is approval from Hockington Planning Board.

Yeah. I will make the motion that 503-25 does not have regional impact so long as we add the condition of having communication with Hockington.

I'll second that. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Uh, next.

Do, um, approval? Is it the only thing, the only condition is the removal of the shed and the weapons that you want?

Yeah, yeah, I guess the conditions, yeah.

So, I, I did have one quick question. Um, The impact fee note, did that get? I need to add that. So there is that additional condition of approvals, checklist item 48, for locating the impact fee note as well.

Yeah, well, oh, that's right. Yeah, I see several. So, yeah, we already have some. Let's see. So we all sit on the checklist items, I think.

Yeah. Okay. I mean, that well location, but it's, he says, in that. It's in front of the garage. Yeah, it's right in the driveway, so, and it's on there now, so.

Okay, the FEMA map and panel is referenced.

Okay. Since the Board of Selectmen will need to approve the land transfer and sign the plan. Right, well that's, yeah, that's part of the approval.

Potential conditions for approval. Right.

I believe he's got a, you've got a purchase in place in the water. Virtual sales already signed.

There we have it. Yep, by David Stack and myself. Okay.

The only thing though, I think the, as long as the Selectmen, I if they need to sign a plan to either way.

Yeah, it says the potential conditions for approval to sign a plan on the town's behalf. It says or the town manager, but...

You guys already have a purchase and sales? Yes. So I know David and myself.

Okay.

Okay. So that kind of goes with it.

We'll have to sign a plan. The plan was supposed to be signed. So we'll have to actually sign a plan as well.

I think we authorized David to sign anything for the town already.

So he signed the purchase and sales. And as long as he signs the plans to show the transfer, it should take care of it.

Just remove the first part of that sentence. Yep. The land transfer. Okay.

The only other thing I'm trying to figure out is how to describe the buffer.

Were we not doing that at the edge of lawn or did that get moved?

Well, in some areas we're adding some additional buffer where there's more space.

I would say placing a placard along the edge of, that would be the westbound? There's the southeast. Or southeastbound?

Yeah, it's upside down.

Okay. So the southeastbound. wrapping around the edge of the property where the existing shed is, and then along the edge of the lawn.

Right, but we had decided on like the 10-foot buffer in the one place, but around the corner, it wouldn't be 10 feet because it's pretty narrow there.

Yeah, is that not what I just said? So a 10-foot buffer would be along that edge. And then along where the existing shed is, it's going to be removed. And then along the back edge of the line.

And then kind of reestablish.

So did you want the 10 feet? You don't want the 10 feet here, do you, right?

No.

And it was just here. So you would have it for 146. 10 foot off. 10 foot off. So for the 146.4 feet.

And it sweeps around where the old shed was, kind of along the tree line. As close as we can to that tree line is kind of what I was thinking.

I'm just not sure how to describe where the shed is. The rest is pretty straightforward, though. Nobody wants to do this one, sorry guys. So I make a motion to approve the application 50325 and what's the CUP number? 405-26. 405-26. The following conditions that the impact keynote be added to the plans. that the wetland buffer be re-established from the southeast bound of the property, 10 feet in front of the back property line for 146.04 feet, and for the remaining of the property that the buffer placards will be placed along the edge of the lawn. Also that the shed will be removed one too wasn't there yeah the signing of the plan and that the plan will be signed by the town manager on behalf of the town and professional stamps and signatures on the final plan and professional stamps and signatures on the final plan and do we have approval by the hop into plan and approval of the hop from the hopping complaining book there you go

Thank you.

Now we need to do findings. Oh.

Almost there.

Almost there.

Well, half an acre. Well, you've been doing it for seven years. All right.

I mean, the first thing is it's a lot on adjustment rates, so.

Do we want to say to address some pre-existing conditions?

that no additional development is anticipated, that the wetland buffers will be reestablished as stated.

Sounds good. Second.

All those in favor of planning to pack? Aye. Any opposed?

Okay.

Thank you. Appreciate it.

To the swamp.

So where are we down on the list? We're at number seven. Seven. Seven. Because these two are together.

Okay, I don't know what you're looking at.

You're on a different list. Oh, I'm looking at the real agenda. Oh, there's an actual, I don't even know where that is.

I'm not going to look. 206-26? What's that? 206-26. Yes. So the next... The next item on the agenda is application 206-26, Naval McKenzie. Is there anyone here for that proposed site plan modification to change 2,600 square feet of existing warehouse space to be used as an automotive spray paint booth? Nobody's here for that one?

It's the 206-26.

Yes. 161 River Road? No? 161 River Road, yeah.

So what do you do with that?

You're not here?

I know the applicant did ask, I think just before Kerry left us, whether or not he needed to be here, and he was told yes, but...

So what do you do in that situation? Continue to the next...

But it's very limited on the information. I mean, you give us, like, cut sheets of a spray booth. Yep, and that's it an automotive spray booth.

It wasn't completed and rescheduled for next week without work or next month.

Yeah, continue it.

Yeah, I'll make a motion to find it not complete and continue it until June.

So you'd actually want to separate it. You'd just want to continue it. If you deem it incomplete, you've got to cite what he's missing.

Attendance.

I'm going to make a motion to continue this until next month.

Okay.

I second.

Pending him comment, right?

Yeah. Okay.

All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed?

This will speed the meeting.

Okay, next item on the agenda, Keir Sargebo, Landfill LLC, application number 205-26, proposed site plan for the construction of a 1.76 megawatt alternative current ground-mounted solar photovoltaic array on the former Woodrock Hill Road landfill. creating roughly 8,900 square feet of block coverage. And then there's also application number 404-26, the proposed wetland conditional use permit to impact approximately 800 square feet of wetland buffer for the installation of portions of the ground-mounted solar array.

Hi, all. I'm Alex Young from Kearsarge Energy. I'll just start off by introing the project. As some of you were here for Monday night, we met with the Conservation Commission. The project was awarded as part of a competitive RFP with the gravel pit, along with the schools, a few schools here, the Memorial School in particular, which we're also looking to construct this year. That'll just be a rooftop array. The RFP was issued in 2023 and awarded to Keir Sarge. And we've since developed the project with the utility, Unitil. We have the interconnection services agreement for the project, which is a big milestone in the solar world. Basically gives us permission to begin construction once permitting is complete and outlines the cost for the project. And so in addition to that, We began the permitting process. We began the state permitting, including the alteration of terrain and type 1b. We've worked with the school district in particular. We've worked with Dwayne Ford as he's managing, obviously, the Memorial School, the lot to the southeast you see there. We originally had poles along White Rock Hill Road that came right into the entrance, where it was the most economically feasible to directly access the landfill with the solar. After some discussion, we relocated it to give a more visually appealing and You know out of the way pull location back to the northeast there along the outskirt of that parking lot to avoid because we don't want to take any parking spaces we want it to be. You kind of out of the way and that's typically the how these operate they're very low maintenance. We may need a bucket truck to come by once every quarter to service parts or whatever it may be, but it's a pickup truck and we have someone on staff who can handle that. In addition, We own about 15 to 16 landfill projects in New England, 70 megawatts worth. And for context, this one's 1.7 megawatt AC. So substantial volume. We are operating the Manchester landfill project right now. We're also operating or we are developing in construction the Concord landfill just up the way. So we've got a local presence here and we've got several other projects just down the road in New Hampshire.

With that being said Rob if you want to take it away Yeah, I can add I mean Alex mentioned that we've got two des permits pending the type 1b which is the solid waste permit application because this is Proposed to be constructed on the cap landfill and then the alteration the terrain permit which is required if you're disturbing hundred thousand square feet or more I can't are you familiar with how these are constructed on landfills? I can go into a little more detail

Usually gabion baskets, right, like rocks or no?

So that's one type. That's what's happening at Concord. It's usually, excuse me, their precast concrete block or a gabion basket, which is a wire cage, and then it's filled with stone. But either way, the foundations are sized. Everything sits above grade, so they have to be leveled, and the surface of the landfill is usually not level. So what they do is put gravel down, level that, and then put the foundation down on that. There's two foundations per rack. And then they build the rack up and put the modules on that. So, excuse me, everything again is above ground. We need to show DES that we're not going to compromise the integrity of the cap. So the foundations are above ground. The conduit's all above ground. Anything that's within the limits of the cap, which if you go back to the site plan, I can show it here, but I can barely see it, so I assume you can't either. But it Perimeter swale here. It's a solid sort of thick, excuse me, dashed ray line. That's the limit of the cap based on historic information. So it essentially follows this perimeter drainage swale, which is a rock-lined swale that goes around the landfill.

What are you proposing for stormwater treatment?

So because it's a landfill, we do a conservative model that each block is added impervious, but it's a membrane cap. So you could make the argument the landfill itself is already impervious. So the drainage, the way these are designed is you have topsoil, you have a sand drainage layer, and then you have a low permeability layer. The idea is to keep the landfill gas in the landfill and prevent rainwater from going down Picking up some of the contaminants and creating leachate that could cause groundwater issues So the same same amount of water is falling on the landfill. So it's we run the analysis to show that the existing Infrastructure can manage that added impervious runoff, but it's basically the same we've done more than 50 of these projects in New England and we've never had a situation where we've had to make improvements or add capacity to a drainage basin.

How big is this compared to Concord? Because I drive by the Concord one quite regularly and so just for scope in my own head.

I can't remember offhand. I mean, this one is two DC, right?

Yeah, this one's 2.4 DC. Concord's somewhere just under seven, I think.

So like a third of the size?

Yeah, it's just based off that that's a big landfill. It's just square footage. Yeah. And I would also add, we've worked at the town's council, Eric Mayer. We have an executed lease with the town, which will outline decommissioning and all those aspects of the project.

And this was brought to town vote and approved?

Correct. I believe it was 2024 or 2025. I'll double check that, but I was at that meeting.

Three meetings ago, two years. Yeah. Two years and a couple months.

Yep. was approved along with the gravel pit in Memorial School.

I know one of the questions that came up or some questions that came up at the Conservation Commission meeting was that the wetland buffer being shown, you know, being shown it's 150 feet on the prime wetland and smaller on the non-prime wetland, but It wasn't clearly shown on the maps. And I think there was also a description of some other tree cutting near that south side that wasn't apparent. I know that the Conservation Commission had hoped to have a site walk on it to take a look at that.

Yeah, so I just walked the site today before I came here. It's all flagged. We had a delineation done a couple months ago. So there are flaggings out there. I walked back to the prime wetland, which is also flagged. And we'd be more than happy to schedule that site walk.

Yeah, I guess also it would be good to see a plan where those... You know, the prime wetlands are measured out with a buffer.

I have updated plans. I can hand these out if you want. I have it here, too, but again, it's hard to see.

Rob added coloring, too. It's great.

Yes, I use markers a lot. Set of color highlighters.

So the project will provide a multitude of benefits in that the lease revenue, pilot revenue, tax revenue, and then electricity bill savings from discounted net metering credits through the state's group net metering program. Those will equate to about $50,000 in year one. And, you know, this project could have an initial term of 20 years and could operate as long as 30. So...

I can walk you through these colors if you want. The blue is the prime wetland boundary and then the pinkish red is the 150 foot buffer from that prime wetland boundary. The sort of thinner reddish line is the other wetland boundary and then the green line is the 75 foot buffer. So I know when we were talking to the Conservation Commission the other night, one of the questions came up about potential disturbance within the 150 foot buffer. So I guess this is a question if we need to request a waiver for it. But going through the DES process, there are two types of turtles that are endangered at the site. So they're requiring that we put a turtle protection barrier in. And because the limit of the landfill, which again is that sort of dashed thick gray line that pretty much runs within that rock line drainage swale, because a portion of that on the north side of the site is within that 150 foot prime wetland buffer,

guess we would need to request a variance to put that turtle protection barrier that's that's actually part of that would be part of the wetland conditional use permit okay so I guess I don't know whether it needs to be modified or the request or whether the plans are good enough to use for that revised you know kind of

Yeah, I mean, I think throwing the, where's, in relation to some of these other lines on the plane you just passed out, where would that turtle?

It's the SF line. It's still, it's a dark line. Oh, I see it, yeah.

SF, yeah, yeah.

So there's an LOW line that sort of runs between the green buffer. It's just to the south of that. It's a soap fence that kind of curves around.

Oh, right, right, right.

All right, so the soap fence. Is it SB? The other, what's that?

SB?

SF. SB is sediment barrier. I know there's a lot going on here, but.

Yeah, where's the SF then?

One of the key things to the soap fence.

Oh, let's see, here's SF.

The turtle protection barrier has to be trenched in, so we can't really bring it any further south because we'd be within the limits of the landfill cap, and you can't trench on the landfill cap.

Get that by that can, right here. Right. Did you see that?

Turtles climb fences too. I'm not sure how bland names that are spotted are, but I know. Yeah, so there would be a silt fence.

So, yeah, I'm sure you've seen a silt fence, right? Black fabric, woven fabric, and it's trenched in so that they can't dig underneath it.

Yeah, yeah. It's a permanent silt fence, though? No, no, just during construction. Just during construction is the concern?

To keep them out. And we have to keep a wildlife gap in the fence so that they can walk up it.

Like the turtles. So on that up there, which is the SF1? SF, yeah, correct. Oh, yeah, yeah, right. See where 3.5 is? Go that way, and you can see the SF.

Yeah, it sort of parallels that orange low.

That's limit of work, yeah.

Limit of work, right, okay. Along. I mean along that area. Would folks be interested in having a site walk?

No.

All right, Chris.

And I guess the description of where the trees would be removed.

Yeah, I think One of the benefits of the sidewalk is it's gonna be a select few of the larger pines that will be shading the array obviously if there are pines that are located to the south of the array where you're going to get most of your sunlight, that's going to have a large impact on production. So it's just a few select pines along that western boundary there.

And you can mark those for a site walk or something? Yeah. OK. Did the conservation commission already request a site walk? Yes, they did. I mean, they've requested, we didn't schedule one, but we said that, yeah, they did say that, what, you have the comments, I don't have the comments.

What's the height of the trains? The array. Oh, the panels themselves, the base of them are typically about three feet off the ground, and, you know, they're six feet tall, but they're at an angle, so they're really only... Eight, nine feet off the ground.

I was more talking about the height between the ground level. Is the intent to minimize vegetation in between the rows? Is there a vegetation management plan?

Yeah, we typically mow. Obviously, we don't want the grass to grow up. That's why I'm asking that. Yeah.

I'm familiar with solar array construction, not this small. I'm used to the huge ones, the utility scale. I'm curious, what's the plan? with that vegetation management, like how often you have to access the site for that? Or what's your typical?

We typically mow in the spring and then later in the summer to manage vegetation. So it's usually twice, sometimes three times a year.

Do we accept this as complete?

Yeah, there's some checklist things and there are a couple minor departments. At the back, after my memo, there's the department head stuff. There's just a couple from the fire and highway department.

Yeah, there's one question from the highway department head about the number of poles needed for that. being nine, whether that could be reduced. I'm assuming that there's probably a standard regulation of it. You're asking how many polls? The department head for us asked about reducing the number of poles from the nine that were...

Yes, so it's our goal to reduce them as much as possible as well. We're held to that number because of Unitil. They need to have, they can't tie up their equipment. Like, for example, there's a meter pole. and a reposal pole, they couldn't combine those. In a perfect world, we would like to reduce that as well, but I think in order to fit the equipment on those poles, we'd have to have that many. And so that's basically the minimum we could hit.

I don't understand the fire chief's question, though. So Knox Box? Oh, Knox Box. That's a typical condition. When I read it, I was like, Knox Road's not even...

It's like, whatever, right?

It's just a way to allow them access if someone from Keir Sarge isn't there to open it.

Yeah, okay.

Got that. Which is pretty typical.

I have another general question. Like, so I asked the question about the maintenance of the vegetation, but maintenance, the smaller based off of having, like, do you have a lot of,

replacements that you have to go out into the field like from either hail damage or those types of situations or what does it look like for typically no we haven't really experienced hail damage these have a typically have a glass layer with a thick thick layer over them and that they can handle that type of damage um

Uh, so outside of vegetation management, you have very minimal, very minimal.

We may have, um, an inverter that's underperforming and we have an electrician in house that can go out and fix that the day of. We obviously want the project running optimally because the more produces, the better we do. So, you know, we're quick to respond to these things.

I'm curious, when you go do the AOT, a lot of times you have to have a maintenance agreement and put your maintenance plan in there. But you don't have any stormwater treatment areas, obviously. Are you still required to put in a maintenance plan with that for the maintenance of the growth? Is that part of the AOT that you've submitted?

Yeah, I believe we submitted just a general O&M plan, which includes all the ground maintenance. Which includes the mowing, the standard maintenance of it. Mowing, things like that.

Yes, okay.

Basically anything, correct me if I'm wrong, but Keir Syrus would be responsible for anything within the fenced line. Maintain.

That's for the lease, yep.

I think all the checklist items are... to address to consider complete?

So let me see here. I think I didn't have very many on the checklist side of things.

Copyright marks?

Yeah, I saw like in the very bottom no copyright stuff or to just put a note saying it's okay to reproduce it for for the purpose of meetings and stuff like that was that a weston and samson copyright note uh yeah it was on the bottom on the plans that i was looking at it was on the bottom right on like every page uh yeah no i i think i can speak for the company that you can It's, yeah. I mean, I think if he's here, it's in the minutes. To me, that's gross. They can't remove it from the copy.

You know, you made the wrong call, right?

You have to call the lawyer on that one.

It can't be removed from the copy.

Yep. Any other things? Soil delineations.

Did you use soil delineations for your AOT?

Soil delineations, no, because it's a landfill.

Mm-hmm.

So for a non-landfill site, we would hire a soil scientist to do the full study and the mapping, but you can't do that for a landfill because they're not allowed to check the soils on the cap.

So I think the split the difference could be to just drop the county soil map.

Yes, I was going to say, yeah, just do the soil map, go on UFDS web soil survey or whatever.

already done that for the AOT department, so that might be an easy option for them.

Is there any other, I don't see any other checklist items to accept, to affect accepting it, right?

No, the last thing I had was on the regs. It talks about monumentation every 500 feet. on the survey and i know in the past sometimes they would ask for additional monuments to be placed um it's town property right in the end um so i don't know if the town really wants to do that um you're going to be fencing in the area and if you look at the plans you can see how far away it is from the boundaries so we're not into like you know crossing the boundary. So I would just kind of, if it's okay to get a waiver request for that one, I would think maybe.

Oh, it mentions the locusts on the tax, it says on tax maps.

Yeah, so the way the reg read, the regs read, it says you're supposed to do a locust, I think it's one in a thousand on top of the tax maps. If you guys really want it, you can come throw it on as a condition.

Okay, shall we open the public hearing? Oh, complete, yes, thank you. Okay. Make a motion.

So in order to accept it as complete, do you have to list those things as waivers for completeness?

Or is that later, as conditions for completeness? You could still just do them as conditions.

So I make a motion to accept application 205-26 as complete.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Any opposed?

And just to be clear, we're opening the public hearing for both, but I think we only referenced the 205-26 before. Okay. Yes, we are opening the public hearing for both.

both 205 dish 26 and 404 dish 26 the wetland CUP Open the public hearing and if there any comments Yes Your name first That's right behind this thing here I

Is this going to be, are the units on this going to be the size in the Concord, like the ones in Concord?

The panels?

Yeah.

Yeah, there'll be some.

And the stand and stuff like that?

The baskets that are basically supporting them, you're asking? Yeah. Yeah, I think we're doing, yeah.

Well, they're hideous looking, first of all, okay? That's going to be wonderful to look at that every time I open, when I look through my back window. Also, there's a stream that goes through the wetlands down in the back of our house, and is that going to be affected by anything at all? We've had a lot of water problems there at various times. Now, you said something about I didn't really quite get it, but some moisture or something coming down from those units or something? Or drainage?

I think what I said was the same amount of rain that falls on the cap, whether the panels are there or not. So there won't be any increase in runoff. Or no impact to the stream.

Well, what area of the wetlands are you going to take?

Well, what are you gonna do? So it's basically the opposite side of where you are. It's right along Falcon Way. Oh, Falcon Way, oh, okay.

What else was I gonna say? And yes, how many trees, or what is the swath of land, the trees that you're going to take down? That's another thing I wanna know.

It would be on the other side, on the Falcon Way side, away from where you live, and it would likely be less than a quarter of an acre. It would just be a select few pines.

Yeah, but where? On the right side, the left side?

Falcon Way side.

Only on Falcon Way? Are you sure?

Yes.

And also, you know, this is going to affect all the animals that are back there. and multiple vegetation, you're gonna just destroy all that. And is there going to be any noise from this? I heard there's a humming noise from this kind of thing.

It's imperceptible at the property boundaries. So you shouldn't hear anything from where you are.

If we do? The standard in terms of hertz is about the same as what you'd hear from a fridge, running a fridge in your house. So it's very minimal noise level.

I wouldn't believe this kind of thing. Is there any way to cut the size down? Why did you have to make such a big one? Why didn't you pick a ball field to use? I mean, there's a million, Bo has a million ball fields. Could you use one of those?

I think it was the goal of the town, the select board, and then ultimately the town voters that approved this to generate renewable power on sites that were underutilized.

Yes, that's a wonderful thought.

A cap of a dump is a perfect unutilized site.

Yes, but it had beautiful grass on it. Animals walked over it. It was a very nice looking place, I think, with trees around it. and now you're gonna destroy all that and you're gonna have metal things there. I think the concept of them is great, but why did you have to pick this place With people, you know, all the other places that I've seen driving by or whatever are in places where there is not a lot of residential people around. They're usually pretty barren places around, but no, you have to stick it right in front of, right in the middle of residential areas.

With all due respect, this is, on the school property, there's just a couple of houses.

Evangeline has a lot of houses. There's like 26 houses in that area. It goes right by the property.

But there shouldn't be any, from what is being described, there isn't any cutting of trees on the side between the landfill and Pines and Bow.

Well, yeah, but there are trees. Yeah, there are. They're just trees, a lot of trees on that side.

Right, I'm saying that they won't be cut. They won't be cut on that side. All right.

And where is the concrete boundary going to go? Is that going to be... Right along the water the little stream of water.

No, no, we were I thought we said we didn't need to put it's like the these Yeah, you're talking about the sediment area.

It's time. Yeah.

Yeah.

So yeah Barry announced That you don't want the bounds for the property boundary. Are you talking about the sediment barrier? What is this?

I Thought you talked about it this right this one. I

Oh, that's existing. There's an existing rock foundation.

You're not going to build something like concrete something?

Well, yeah, I'm Deb Campelia. I live on 9 Evangeline and I... I'm sorry, what is the name? Deb Campelia. Camp EOIA. And I live in 9 Evangelion. I access the woods behind my house a lot. And I actually access up onto the landfill with my dog. And I think it's a beautiful area. And I'm all for solar energy. Any alternative energy will do for me. And I am comfortable with the fact that you're not disturbing any of the vegetation and the trees along there. And it seems like the best you can do. Yeah, that's it. Well, you won't be seeing them. I don't feel like you're going to be seeing too much either.

Oh, no, yeah, you can see right through there. Well, maybe we can put a few trees in.

Well, I don't know, but you've got to prioritize what's good for most and all.

Well, like I said, there's a lot of other...

there are the two other places in town. I know. Sewer is going on. One is on top of the building. Right, right. And one is by the gravel pit. So that will be out of the way.

Right, but this is like, you know, this is my home. And I mean, this is like all the people didn't want the thing, the tower there. I mean, the cell tower built because it was all near their house, near their property. It's the same thing. We built that though. Well, I know, but I mean, you know, that was the big to-do. I understand.

Well, we'll schedule a site walk.

Would you like this in your backyard?

It might not be an issue. We'll schedule a site walk. Yes, I'd like to go to that. Yes, the public is invited, and, you know, we can take a look at what the existing vegetation is in general, and then the area that they'll be where they'll be cutting a few trees.

Additionally, I'm pleased that you have the Conservation Commission. That sets my mind a lot at ease, seeing those wetlands. I have seen the Blanding turtle. The blending turtle, but anyways.

I suggest you take photos of it and submit it to Fish and Game when you see it. I did.

Oh, good. Terrific. Maybe that was his picture.

Was it as big as in the picture?

Yeah, it was huge. I was so impressed. Yeah, they're cool.

Sandy tells me they climb fences.

That's exactly how they get up So how about we schedule a site walk? Do you want to do it in conjunction with the commission?

May it close the public hearing.

Oh, yes. I'll close the public hearing now. Thank you.

It takes a village here, huh?

Word.

Okay, so, um, yeah, so scheduling a public hearing.

You have to wait to do it with the conservation committee. Uh, yeah, um...

Right, I guess I... The possibility would do it before the Conservation Commission meeting.

Which is on a Tuesday, correct?

Which is on a Monday, the 15th.

So do it, yeah, so do it before that.

Right.

What time do you meet for a conservation meeting?

We meet at 7. 5.30. 5.30. June 15th?

Yeah. We do this for the last week. 530? Six.

We did six, but it was easy access areas. This is maybe a little more involved.

All right, site walk.

I'll make a motion.

Oh, there wasn't enough people, that's right.

For a site walk on Monday, June 15th at 530.