Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone #1 - Regular Meeting

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I'm the executive director of the Borger Chamber of Commerce. I'm so excited to be part of this community. I've been here about seven years, and I love seeing the growth.

Whether you're a current business owner, downtown dreamer, or somebody with a great idea, you deserve a seat at the table.

My job is to help with any zoning questions or building safety questions that may or may not require a permit.

I'm here to help you with any of your water service needs, such as turning on and off service, any billing questions you may have. We're there to help you navigate all of those systems to help you get involved in your business or promote it.

complimentary services for branding, for marketing, for social media, for their website design.

Our goal with this event is to make you feel like you have a whole team of professionals right behind you wanting to make your dreams happen.

We're here to help you with any zoning or building.

Welcome to the 12 o'clock July 29 tears meeting. At this time we will stand for the pledge in prayer by hopefully Robert Bradley.

Would you do it Robert? Sure.

Thank you.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

The Father will come and thank you for this day, Lord. We thank you for your many wonderful blessings you've restored for us. Lord, we pray that you bless this meeting and have it to be what you want it to be. We come praying that not any flesh be glorified. And Lord, we just want to thank you for all that you do, all that you've done, all that you're going to do. Continue to bless Garrett and his leadership and all of the administrative staff. Lord, we pray that you bless each person on this board. We pray that you go with us today. You stand by us and never ever leave us. In Jesus' name we pray. We thank you, God. Amen.

Amen.

and at this time we'll have any questions or comments from any citizens and I don't see any so we'll move on to the consent agenda consider and take appropriate action on the minutes of the regular meeting of April 1st 2026 questions or comments if not I'll entertain a motion I'll make the motion to approve I'll second And all in favor? And it passes. And then moving on to item number six, review, discuss, and take appropriate action on recommendations to the city council for amendment to the fiscal year 2026 tiers number one budget. Mr. Spradlin.

So I'm going to talk about these next two items together. And you've got the PowerPoint in front of you, and it'll be up on the board. In case you have any questions, this should be pretty quick. Unlike most of the budgets that we all deal with with our agencies, this is like seven line items and not just a whole lot. So right now, just in 2026, so we had a total revenue so far this year into the tiers of $236,044. It's a little over adopted because we actually, we took a, well, received a grant, Deidre and Nicole put in a grant with the Emerald Area Foundation for some downtown improvement that we put into this fund to make sure they would be restricted to the downtown area. So that was an additional $17,500 outside of the tax increment. We also had almost $30,000 in interest this year from the fund balance that was in there. I don't think we need to do an amendment. We adopted an expenditures of $154,366. We talked about maybe needing to do an amendment last year or last meeting because we weren't for sure how many momentum grants that we might get. Right now what's come in is three and they're both asking for under what was plugged into the budget as a placeholder. So right now I don't think we need to do an amendment. for the fiscal twenty six budget because with those were expecting a hundred thirteen thousand nine hundred eleven dollars total expenditures which is under the hundred fifty four thousand dollars so based on that we anticipate on ending this fiscal year with the fund balance in the tax increment fund of six hundred eight thousand two hundred and forty six dollars we have received a certified values now so the twenty twenty keep in mind we It's so funny when we talk to this because the tax year is always a year behind the fiscal year. So we're working in fiscal 27 as the new budget, but that's for tax year 26. Our current budget is fiscal 26, working with tax year 25. So in tax year 25, the tiers increment was $12.7 million. This year, the tax increment is $13.85 million. So that's the amount of appraised value above tax. the amount, the base value we established when the tiers was adopted. And so you've got some more detail on this sheet that's in front of you if you want the detail. So that's about a 14.17% increase in the property value in the tiers. the estimated payments right now are based on if the entities adopt their same current rate. I anticipate that to change. That's why you see that the estimated revenue is $224,480, but you see what's in the proposed budget in front of you is $162,368 in proposed revenues because depending on what the appraised values were for the other and what the final M&O tax rate is adopted will impact that money. So generally we always weigh, underestimate, try to conservative with revenue and then if we need to amend it or adjust it later uh we can but that's what we're looking at for next year so it's budgeted at 162 but you're it could if everybody adopts their current same tax rate okay uh it's it will be well If the school district and the county adopt the same tax rate, the city's rate, I have updated the city's rate, which is what is proposed in the proposed budget that the council will get next week. So the city's rate's probably pretty close. The school district and the county could go down. I've seen what my certified value, excuse me, I've seen what the city's certified values are. I don't know what the certified value, because ours went down just a little bit. And that might, because, you know, the state adopted that new business property tax exemption for all the businesses in the last legislative session. This is the first year that that hit. So that's shrunk in some of the, and this is not me saying it's good or bad. This is just me telling you what it is. So a lot of times that's impacted the appraised values. I do just want to remind, as we start talking about this and we start talking about budget, is, you know, that value is factored into the tax rate calculation. So, you know, it's not, If we didn't have the tiers, our no new revenue rate would be driven down a little bit. So that revenue that we have to pay into the tiers for the city and the county is factored into that rate. So if we, the rate will be, for us, the rate is, to fund that, the rate is like 0.003 cents. So the county would be even smaller than that because the county's appraised value is like six times the city's. So it does impact the rate a little bit. And I just kind of like reminding the boards and everything that the money is factored in there. So this isn't taking money away from anything else. And so it's allowing us to take the value increased in the zone and then reinvest that money back into the zone, hopefully trying to get the zone better. I also want to point out that on the school district side, this goes into the state's funding formula. So the school district actually ends up a little better than the rest of us because the tiers increment and the amount they pay in there goes, they get a survey in April and everything with the school district is always more complicated than it is with the tax and entities because of the Robin Hood and the way that the compression, all that stuff works. But the tiers increment goes into that compression formula and normally the vast majority of a school district's payment is covered. It increases the state's reimbursement. So it's actually money coming from the state and not taking so much money away from the actual school's operating budget. So just as the tier's growing and we're starting to see a little more revenue hit, I think it's important to explain where that money's coming from and that it should not be impacting any other services. If we didn't have the tiers, your tax rate would be going down and that increment or the school would be getting less money from the state.

Okay, that makes sense.

You get the tax rate, M&O rate for border ISD at 7192. I think that was the 2024 tax rate, if I'm not mistaken. And I mean, I think we're currently sitting at a 0.66 M&O rate. And I would anticipate that to be lower next year.

And that's why the budget amounts now. So when I was trying to find your actual rate, I found like four different rates. So I wasn't 100% sure why it is, which is why the budget amount is way lower. Because one that I found, because like the county, the county doesn't have the record of your final rate because it did go to the Vader last year. So there's a big opening in that where that normally is. And when I send these out, I give the tax entity, you know, I'm not calculating the county's portion. I just say, hey, here's the increment. It's up to y'all to figure out what it will be based on what your final rate is. And then we invoice based on what your final rate is. Yeah, I'm just looking at it from a budget perspective.

Yeah, yeah. That's all it is. I think it's high.

Yeah, because what we billed the ISD last year was 83, which would be closer to that. That's what was billed last year, the $86,798. Okay. But, you know. You know, school districts are, I mean, all that's. Yes, sir. But, yeah, but that's, I expected that, which is why the budget's about $60,000 under what the, because I don't want to, we're not inferring or trying to influence what any of the entities do with their tax rate outside of what their operating is. So that's why I've left extra budget in there because, you know, we definitely see this as a good support for the, the area and the impact, I don't want it to, I don't want to make any assumptions or force people to feel like they have to do anything. But I did just, WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY HOW IT IMPACTS THE TAX RATE. SO THAT'S WHEN WE GET TO THAT, THAT KIND OF LEADS INTO THE BUDGET. SO WE'RE BUDGETING REVENUE OF 174, 368. THAT INCLUDES THE INTEREST. INTEREST IS BUDGETED PRETTY CONSERVATIVELY TOO BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IDEALLY WE'D LOVE TO GET MORE GRANT APPLICATIONS AND PROBABLY SPEND SOME MORE OF THAT MONEY NEXT YEAR. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'RE SPENDING SOME. AND IF WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S EASIER JUST TO AMEND UPWARDS. We've budgeted $600,000 in expenses next year. This is what we're proposing and this is open for discussion and this is what we need the board feedback from. Right now we're allotting, the staff has allotted $450,000 of that to the economic incentives. That would be the downtown momentum grant. A hundred thousand in public-private partnerships. There's nothing necessarily identified for that yet. It's just kind of in there in case something does come up. And then we added $50,000 to public infrastructure projects. We'd like to maybe buy some new trash cans and benches and tables and things to go downtown with that $50,000. If you've been to an event lately, our few trash cans get... FILLED UP PRETTY GOOD. BUT IF WE SPEND ALL OF THAT, THAT WOULD BE $425,000 MORE THAN WE HAVE IN REVENUE, BUT THAT WOULD LEAVE AN ENDING FUND BALANCE OF $182,614. SO THAT WOULD GIVE US ABOUT $180,000 FOR UNANTICIPATED THINGS OR SOMETHING ELSE. AND THAT'S ASSUMING WE SPEND ALL OF THAT. I THINK IT'S PRETTY AGGRESSIVE FOR US TO SPEND ALL OF THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT COMES UP NEXT YEAR. That is, this sheet is kind of the detail of the budget. You can see the different revenues and how everything is built out over the last couple years. We have not, up until this year, we have not spent any money in the tiers. We talked a little bit about that last time with the downtown momentum grant, you know, just now coming up. But thoughts on those distributions or?

I mean, it's a good starting point to kind of get us to the baseline.

in the first full year of being everybody's kind of okay with the distribution you know nobody doesn't want trash cans or this point i have no idea what it's probably because i missed the last meeting what you'll get a little more of that uh and what that does and what it's forward but yeah you're going to get a good dose of that in the coming items

So, Garrett, so are you, I mean, so really on item six, we aren't going to take any action because you said there is not going to be an amendment?

No, we don't need it.

Okay, so.

Yeah, so item six, technically, would be no amendment. Item seven is just a recommendation to the council that you like, that you support this distribution. included in the budget which is that 450 and all that yeah we can always go down if you want to i mean if you the other way of doing that is not budgeting a negative and if we get more grant applications making you do an amendment you know making the council amend it later in the year uh the downtown as it's set now you know anything over fifty thousand dollars has to go in front of the council for secondary approval Anyway, anything less than $50,000, this board can approve independently.

This is a good baseline. And like you said, we can always move it around and amend it as we learn what.

I mean, I don't think there'll ever be $450,000. I mean, we don't know. I mean, if we get a series of roofs or something, because downtown needs roofing, that might happen.

I will say they came in cheaper than I was afraid they were going to be. So, but like I said, to me, the really only discussion is do you want to budget a negative to spend down the fund balance, which we know we have, or do you want to budget the equal amount and then amend if we want to go negative? I don't.

I like it because, I mean, if we do get some grants, because, I mean, I know Nicole and Deidre are working on getting multiple roof bids to save money. And, I mean, if they need to be done at the same time, if they put grants in.

From a staff perspective, there is some benefit to knowing what the maximum limit is, you know, so that if you get a whole lot of applications, we can be realistic with the applicants and say, hey, You know, we've only got $450,000 budgeted this year. You're the 12th grant. If those add up to $800,000, somebody's not going to get something.

And that's going to leave $180,000 in fund balance. In the bank. And then next year, we'll probably add about that same amount. So it's going to be built back up. But I don't know. Anyone else have a key?

I just may need some more, like, maybe grounding.

Okay.

Yeah, the doubt, so the... I mean, I just, from a budget perspective, and not knowing, so that's why I'm asking maybe for a little bit of explanation of how this works fully, because I'm just not used to an improvement of budget saying, hey, We approve a spend, a potential spend of expenditure of $450,000, but we don't know what it's for.

Okay.

So the $450,000 in the economic incentives is tied to the downtown momentum grant. That's the grant. So the basic criteria of that is it's for downtown buildings. It has to be an improvement to the building. So the thinking is that way, regardless of who owns it, we're improving the building for... going up. It includes roof, like roof replacements, vent hoods, or life safety compliance. For the things that we hear, like what we're hearing from downtown businesses is roofs are one of the biggest expenses. Code compliance, if they're looking to reactivate a new one, so that's sprinkler fire suppression, vent hood for food service, ADA compliance to upgrade bathrooms, things like that. The thing with that grant is there is everything has to come in front of this board so we can take the applications but staff can't approve anything without it coming and that specific grant being presented to this board and approving and can you tell him a little about how much they have i mean they actually the the building owners have to they have they have to put something in it as well

You know, like maybe on electrical, maybe fiber.

There's a little bit of a match required. The biggest difference is we're not giving the money to the actual individual business owner. It's set up to get to pay directly to the vendor that's doing the work so that we can make sure that the work gets done.

Have you been here since the inception of the tears?

So I was put on the board. He replaced. The first meeting was in April. I was gone for a funeral. My deal is, do we know that?

What do we have in front of us right now that we know? The $113,000 that you're going to consider later in this meeting.

I think the main thing to understand on this, I'm preaching to the choir, I think. I'm not saying you're ignorant or anything, so just take this for a grain of salt. I'm not trying to mansplain or anything. The tiers money coming in, you know, we're not budgeting this amount, taking it from the taxpayers. It's coming into this zone anyway because of the increase in the property value. So we're not budgeting something on top of, you know, we're not budgeting a surplus to take from the taxpayers. We're budgeting... Money that's coming into this tier zone that the improvements from the property tax values in this zone are going directly to that. So it's money already coming in. It's not extra taxable value or anything like that that we're adding to the budget. We're just utilizing that money. That's going to be there and it is 1 of those things that I think you can't really. You have to anticipate using it, but you don't know what it's going to be for until they apply for those. Because we could use all 600,000 on curbs and gutters if we decided to. I mean, just improvements in this. But we're trying to give the building owner's incentives to, you know, and this, so it's not, I don't know if that helps on the clarity on some of that, that it's not extra money we're taking.

Yeah, in 2018 when we created the zone, we froze the tax value at that point. So the $55 million is what the value of the zone was in 2018. So as the value increases, the increment, the tax revenue off of that increment then is given to this fund as a dedicated revenue stream to improve the zone. And so the underlying philosophy behind tears and tiffs is that by reinvesting back into the zone, we're gonna increase property growth more than we would if we wouldn't have been able to reinvest back into it. So the hope is that if we hadn't started the tiers over the 30 years, the property value would have, I'm just picking random numbers, would have increased by 30%. But by turning around and investing some of that money over 30 years, it's now increased by 80%. And at the end of the 30 years, that full tax value now goes back to all of the property taxing entities. And we make the extra tax revenue off of the 70% increase versus the 30% increase if we hadn't reinvested back into the zone. The benefit of is it's also a way, so the zone, it's pretty much taxes paid in the zone. So the zone is what's contributing into the TIF fund. So it's their property tax that's just been allocated to be reinvested in the zone. So when we do like a grant, like the Downtown Momentum grant, being able to give incentives to improve their building, it's really us using money from the zone to improve their buildings as part of their own money. But then hopefully as we improve it, we grow the value up.

That will pay back later as building owners.

When our appraisal goes up.

Circle of taxes.

That's the duality.

And two, why we came up with the Main Street Momentum Grant is me and Deidre did a lot of on-the-ground research of talking with building owners, talking with business owners on what their issues were. And one of the main things we see a lot with the EDC grants is those are all reimbursement. So if you don't have, you know, the 200, $300,000 to put in, you're not really qualifying for those grants. So that's kind of why we did the direct pay to vendor part of this. And then that way, no matter what business is going in there, whether it's now or 10 years from now, we're actually able to save the building itself. So we have historic preservation and then also it just keeps the business in there going for however long they can go, and then it will benefit whatever future business goes in there.

Okay. So how did we come up with, I guess, the $450,000 anticipation?

That's just leaving, that's just a number that, so we looked at what was in the, so we had $608,000 in the fund. We were going to bring in another $174,000 in revenue and we wanted to leave a little left over. So that's all there is. So we budgeted enough to leave us $180,000 in the bank for unforeseen or to carry over to next year. So I mean, right now there is no other magic calculation to coming up with that number other than

How much we wanted to leave at the end of the year. We can definitely adjust that.

I'm just wanting to get some basis for how do we come up with the number. That's a big chunk, right? And then you're going to be left with what's our anticipated actual revenue? $174,368. So we'll do a big chunk every three years?

It could be every year.

It depends on if we spend it. So say we do spend the $450,000. I mean, right, you're not going to have that $450,000. You're going to have $174,000 of revenue next year to build on top of that, right? So it'll be, yeah, it'll be like $175,000 every year. So you're going to build it up. By us saying if we approve this, then we anticipate and want for all of that $450,000 to be spent next year. That's the expectation, right? You'll never recoup and be able to do a big – that's what I'm saying. Is that the goal? Is that the vision? Is that the mission? Is that to be one big investment next year and then we just sustain over the next few years with the revenue that we do have, keeping a minimum fund balance? Is that the goal, vision, mission? I mean, that kind of stuff?

That's the theory behind what's presented to you, but that's the question for the board.

I think the only reason that I'll tell you my thought on it is because, I mean, and maybe it is because I do know a little bit about what the girls have been doing, and I know that they are talking with the roofing company so that if they can get – Them to do like six rips because all of the roofs almost need done. I mean they're they're like running there And if they can get that at a discounted amount and not to say that it would be 450,000 But I think they just want to make sure that they would be able to do that in a thing That's kind of what I'm thinking working with Mesa roofing right now.

She's actually with Mesa roofing She's actually volunteering time To go along our Texas main street program area, which is from 3rd to 9th street on main street facing buildings and do roof assessments for us. And so she's actually going to give us a capital planning like binder. So we know which groups are like, ASAP needed to be done, or the building is going to cave in and then also provide a maintenance plan for these building owners so that we can. keep from these building these roofs getting so bad where they're going to cave in and so we'll have essentially a binder hopefully later in the next couple of months that will show us which roofs are like really needed and kind of we can prioritize and that way we figured kind of that amount because if it is coming to that where we know we need like three four roofs done at one time we can get like a lower cost at that

But that's also, that's kind of why I said what you're thinking is correct, which is why to me the decision, the decision point is you want to budget what your revenue is and then do that one off and do an adjustment if you get a big project together or do you want to, you know.

That makes sense. We could do that. Absolutely. And adjust it if that comes in that way.

I'm good with what you want to say. I just want to hear the strategy behind it. What's the thought process? Not to say that y'all haven't been doing that, right? It's like, okay, what is the strategy behind $450,000 this year, anticipating it all being spent, and then the coming years after that?

The thinking was that we'd be overloaded with requests once the money became available, and we would want to fund as many as we could. In retrospect, that's not completely been the case.

But not everybody. I mean, everybody knows about it, but everybody, I mean, it takes a year.

There is some late work to get your... Because we have quite a few requirements for them, which is a good thing.

The main thing for me, I think, I mean, when you're taking... That 450, putting it over here, but it's still at the end of it. If we adjust it, we can just leave it there for the next year and then change that projected to $300,000. So we're going to have to adjust one way or the other at some point. I think it...

I don't know, I think it's just... And everything will come back to the board. All of these grants will come to the board. So, I mean, it's, you know, it's not like, I mean, in my book, it's not like y'all just have free reign, spend $450 or 50, whatever.

Yeah, I mean... Because there's going to come a time... Now, you know, the one thing that's kind of up in the air, now I can tell you from my perspective as city manager and how I deal with the council, in theory, technically the $50,000 allocated for... right trash cans and stuff like that we could do without the board but i that that's not the intention because you know one of the things that we've got to do is we've got to or what we've talked about is trying to pick up a standard style and so you know we're going to want you all to well i mean me i go to all the i go to the downtown events and that is the one thing i hear is please get us some benches i've heard that so many times please get us some benches they really do need benches i mean we do need benches downtown And that's in the budget because of the Main Street project board's feedback and some of the things we're hearing, too. But I'm just – I want – you know, the transparency part of me is, yes, that line item technically is below the state bid threshold. And once the council adopts the budget, technically, if we wanted to spend it, we could. But I don't want – I mean, that's not – That's not the intention there, but everything else is tied to some sort of agreement or grant that has to come in front of the board. So that $100,000 for private public partnership, that would be some sort of property transaction.

Does that mean that maybe Philips would spend the same amount of money? Is that kind of what you mean by that?

It would be like if something came up that would be...

that maybe the tiers board would want to consider purchasing or it would be apartment it would be there would be a development partnership in which we'd outline what the city would fund and what the developer would find it I see and so that could be you know a business it could be the hotel it could be I mean it could be a multitude of things and like I said that's really just a placeholder too so that if somebody somebody comes and starts talking to us we can say hey we've got some funding that we can buy throughout this and we can start talking about terms and then but there again that would come back to this board and have to go through the council too so there's there's nothing everything all of these the two big line items 100 000 and the 450 are going to be tied to some other council uh board or board and or council action before the money gets spent the 50 000 we plan to bring to you but i'm just being out i mean right that makes sense I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't inform you and didn't get your permission. But in theory, you couldn't arrest me for doing that.

I don't think we're worried about that. No. Over the next three to five years, that's going to be super fluid and dynamic. Because I mean, after we get the first wave of major business owner repairs, I mean, it could flip upside down to the public infrastructure project because those things are not cheap. And so I think three to five years, I think that's going to look completely different as far as the percentage layout and the amounts.

And I have multiple businesses that I'm actively talking with that they are working on their application. I think after this meeting and them seeing the process, I think we are going to get a huge wave of applications. But like you said, there is just a lot of legwork. There's a lot of requirements that we require. I mean, we require you go see Spencer at the EDC. We require that you attend a business boot camp session. So there's all things that are scheduled out that do take time to happen. And so I think we'll see more applications after this first meeting.

In our goal with all of this, with the tiers and with what the city does through Chapter 380 agreements or other economic incentives, what the EDC offers, we're trying to make sure that our programs complement everybody so that you can possibly stack them depending on what the business and the incentive is so that we can maximize our Our return for that, you know, the tiers could do major infrastructure projects downtown. I'm not for sure that that's the best, you know, internally. And with council, we've had some discussion that that's not really what we want the tiers money to be used for. You know, there are other funding sources for street improvements and things like that. If we get a downtown grant, like we applied for a million dollars, it would have had a $25,000 match. Maybe that's what we asked the tiers for, to fund up the $25,000 match to a million dollar grant to redo Streep's Gate.

And we'll be able to apply for that every year, huh?

Yes, and we plan to. But this is very much targeted toward building owners or business owners, taking away some of the barriers to operate in a business downtown and trying to develop more business and getting back some of that. Well, the government never does anything for me.

Well, and we're not going to have a downtown if we don't stabilize these buildings at all.

On the tier zone, it's from 3rd Street to 9th Street?

It's actually all the way down Main Street and then picks up a little bit of the north side addition and then the new subdivision south of Galahad.

The Main Street program is just what's 3rd to 9th?

The tiers can do more than just the downtown district, because it was set up to possibly help incentivize housing construction and residential construction too. Yucca Estates, the Camelot streets in the tiers, we didn't use tiers. We chose to incentivize that through the city. That money will come back into the tiers because it's in the tiers, but we didn't use tiers funding for it. We had other means of doing it. But we've tried to put all the areas where it's possible to address the issues and the problems we have, both being housing and commercial central business district development.

I noticed two of the applications out of the three were off of Main Street, though. Are we going to expand that?

The tiers goes all the way to Hedgecoke. So from Hedgecoke to Harvey. And then, and it goes off. So they're in the tiers. They're not, and those are both in the downtown area zoning, but they're not in the Main Street district. So we've got technically three areas we talk about with this. We've got the Texas Historical Commission Main Street program, which is just the Main Street facing businesses. Now we are in the process of adding the post office to that for historic reasons and stuff like that. There's a reason that that, should be in there. But then the downtown area zoning is both, it includes the Deal and Weatherly Main Street alley facing businesses. So it doesn't, it includes the east side of Deal Street and the west side of Weatherly from 3rd to 10th.

I tried to find my drawings on the tier still from four or five years ago.

We can get them.

I think that's what she went to do.

Oh, it's on there.

Forget your mouse.

I think I bet Nicole went to get that. I don't know.

But Keegan, I'm all right this way, but if it makes you more comfortable doing it the way that you're talking, then either way works fine with me. So it's whatever makes you comfortable.

It's just a little bit of a different way of going about proving something.

Yeah, I think that grant world is always kind of a... Yeah. It's a...

I just like to hear kind of the...

For us, I think we really anticipated way more applicants. Yeah, I think so, too.

Well, I'm pretty sure you're about to get a lot more, or we are.

I know there's at least three to four that are pretty close to finalizing their bids. But, I mean, it is kind of like what Garrett said. We do get a lot of, well, nobody helps us, and we want to put a business here, but we can't afford a business and the building and the renovations. And we do understand that piece of it, but... but this is also bringing awareness to we are trying to help. I think it's good. We need to know that you want the help.

And I understand. That's why I said, you know, that's why I brought it out from the beginning. There are two ways to budget this. And in the other city funds, we do it both ways. There are some funds that we always budget balance because we don't want to plan on that. And then there are capital funds, which are always going to be negative because you only receive the revenue one time. But I definitely get your point. And I, You know, to me, it's one way or the other.

I think one of the big deals was that if we don't get our Main Street, I mean, really going, I mean, we just can't retain those people.

Well, the debate's not whether we want the program. It's do we budget the negative or do we not budget the negative and wait until we...

I guess that's true, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, it makes sense. I just don't know what's different between...

previous and now when money has been in the budget first so when did the momentum grant become available april that's when we approved the original intention was like with these tears it takes three to four years to start getting enough funding to even have that program so yeah it really i mean it's a brand new we haven't really had enough money to do much no i mean from an amendment standpoint right say we approve this allotment um

We see that, okay, we're getting halfway through the fiscal year. We're not moving. We're not getting applications that we thought we did. However, we've thought of some more infrastructure projects. We've thought of some more partnerships or whatever it may be, right? Even if we didn't budget that amount, we could come in during the year and say, hey, we want to do that.

Just operationally, I would say that an amendment requires an ordinance of the council. So you make the recommendation. I have no doubt the council will take it. It'll take two readings of the ordinance and then the amendment. So time-wise, there's some time in that. I'm not saying that's good or bad. I'm just letting you know. What's the fiscal year? October 1 to September.

So how are y'all going to drive the business owners to? You said you've got quite a few, right?

Yeah, we make contact with them all the time. I mean, weekly we're visiting them. The ones I've spoken to, I mean, I had, like, three of them actually text me just now and be like, we can still turn those in, right? Like, I didn't miss the deadline. So, I mean, I think they're actively working on them. There's not one.

It's a rolling cycle.

We did. When we visit them, we do encourage them. Like, if we, especially, you know, having, we had a few turned in, so we were like, we are going to call a Cheers meeting. So, it's... If you don't want to delay, now is the time.

What has turned in is I anticipate this is all we're going to do this fiscal year. We'll be into October before we get any next ones ready for approval. With what staff and everybody else has to do to get the budget adopted over the next two months, we're going to be pretty busy. I don't anticipate any more getting funded this fiscal year, but I think they'll be all lined up and ready for October.

And that's kind of why we only have our meetings when we're really needed. Because, I mean, it really isn't.

Well, I'm not wanting to burden all of y'all with a bunch of extra meetings. You know, our goal, I think, next year is, depending on what's going on, is, like, quarterly. If that, you know, plan on quarterly. And then if no applications come in. you know, push that meeting, but meeting in October. Sure.

Yeah, they can. They can apply any time during the next this upcoming fiscal year, 27 fiscal year. Yeah. And still get the work done during that fiscal year. You're not having to apply prior to the next fiscal year to get it done in the next year. It's as soon as you can get the application in. If we can start the work, we're going to do it. We're going to spend the money, improve your building. That's how it's set right now. Okay.

And we wanted to wait until a couple came in to present to you guys, like you said, so we didn't have to call a meeting for every application that came in. All right.

Sorry. No, you're good. I've held us up enough. Don't we want y'all to?

Yeah, this is what this is for. Thank you.

So right now, we're just going to table or?

There's no action on item six.

No action on item six.

So the action would be on item seven, whether you want to recommend a budget to the council either as presented or a balance. Based on discussion, I would say a balanced budget, and then I would go back and reduce it.

OK. So does anybody want to make a motion?

make a motion to um approve the recommendation as it is um i don't have the wording in front of me but um for the tiers fiscal year 2027 budget. And all in favor?

And it passes. And then moving on to executive session in compliance with Chapter 551, Texas Government Code, Open Meetings Act. Board will retire into Executive Session related to Section 551.072 for discussion regarding the purchase, exchange, lease, or value of real property in Section 551.087 for discussion regarding commercial or financial information received from a business prospect and or the deliberation to offer Sorry, the offer of a financial or other incentive to a business or prospect. Discuss lot 17-27, block 29, original town site. Discuss possible incentive related to the downtown momentum grant program, 500 Deal Street, 510 Deal Street, and 603 North Main Street.

Are we going to do that, Mike?

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We discussed the major historic significance of this building.

to this community being one of the first post offices and the next one being five ten deal street which is black dragon martial arts and and they were looking for roof repair which is my recommendation and then six oh three north main which is the chiropractic place chris prox chiropractic place which he did abstain from the that meeting Yeah, he's wanting a facade improvement.

Okay. If there's any discussion, and if not, then I'll go ahead and I guess we'll go down ABC. I think we'll go in order, yeah. So I'll entertain a motion on 10A.

I'll motion to approve 10A. All right.

Second. And all in favor? And it passes. And item 10B, at this point, we're going to table that one right now. And then on 10C, if I have a motion. Okay, wait, I need to make a motion. We need a motion on 10B. I'm a little unfamiliar with that.

I'll make a motion to table item 10B. Thank you.

I'm sorry. And all in favor? That is tabled. And then on item 10C, if anyone wants to make a motion.

Real quick, I'm sorry. What is our quorum?

Okay.

I mean, we still have a quorum with Chris abstaining from this third one.

Oh, yeah.

There's seven.

So we got four. Okay. All right. Cool.

I'm glad you asked that because I didn't.

And I'm like, Garrett usually does this stuff. I second.

And all in favor? And it passes. And I abstain just to publicize. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. I'm not good at asking those questions. And then moving on to number 11, I need a motion to adjourn.

Motion to adjourn the meeting.

All right. Second. And all in favor? And we are adjourned.