Billings County Commission - Regular Meeting

Morning everyone. March 3rd commission meeting. Um we will um go over the uh minutes of last month. Um is there any additions or corrections? Steve is absent today. So, I don't see anything. Do you I'll make a motion to accept them. I'll second. Second. All those in favor say I.

I. Motion carries. The agenda. We have a few things. We're going to have an MLOU with the siren um however you say that out of Bismar. the the the networking uh technology department. I guess we have to add Scorio lease uh North Dakota DOT resolution and the Department of Trust Lands instead of one easement there's three easements. Anything else, Mara?

Cuz there three things cuz we're doing that lease. There's also the signing for the HF fund. Yep. I got that for DOT. Oh, okay. Is that okay? Yep, that's it. Was there something uh Juliana with that came on there? It's on there, too. Okay, that's all included. All right. So, anything else, Jared or anybody? Okay. Uh we need a motion to accept the amended um agenda. So, move.

I'll second. All in favor say I. I. Motion carries. Okay. Okay. And we do not have anybody for the comment period. Okay. Um we'll move forward with a um department reports. Um who uh wants to be first or Dale? I don't have anything. Everything's good. Everything good. Just just have this. Okay. Grand first. got stuff already. Oh,

I really don't have anything. Here's Dean's report. They are at a conference for Western State Sheriff and I'll probably attest to we continue to plan for the the event this summer. Seems like we have calls and meetings daily on on that and things moving forward. Okay. Any questions? Nope. Looks like we had a busy month though.

Thank you. Okay. So, Grant Good. All righty. Lean Okay, Kyle. Uh, so first that uhou, do you want to discuss that now or is that being held separately? You can do it. We can do it in your report. Yeah, cuz we just got to make a motion, right?

Yep. So, so yeah, that's basically to secure the courthouse for a siren site for the new radio system. um to fill the communication gap down in the valley. Uh as it reads, they'll um obviously supply all the equipment. We will have to do um the power and then um like any antenna mounts, anything physical to the building, we have to do ourselves, which is understandable. So,

so they're ready to sign also. I mean they they've already Yep. So as you see they they have it written up as temporary. Um we are still working for a plan for a permanent fix um to hopefully retain this equipment that they do bring in to keep everything up and running beyond. But as far as I could get them to go is a temporary deal at the moment. So, but they are going to be working on a permanent solution and and the dates are um for how long? A month or so? It needs to be until September 30th.

Yep. In place and fully operational by May 15, meaning testing's done, everything's done, and then Yeah. And then they'd be pulling it out by the end of September. Okay. As of now. Okay. Any questions? We need a motion. Y Okay. Yep. So, we'll need a motion to um do this memorandum of understanding. Um do you have it up? Sarin siteou.

Okay. Um well, I'll make the motion to uh to enter into this contract. Jared, is there anything? No, I've reviewed it. Uh the AG's office has reviewed it. Um they gave their input and the suggestions were made. Okay. So this is the final version. Okay. We have a motion. Is there a second? I'll second. Second. Any discussion? All those in favor say I. I. I. Motion carries. Um other than that, sign it later. Um yeah, I didn't sign yet. Oh, because too much things to sign.

Okay.

The community meeting obviously was held um regarding library opening. You guys were in attendance. Um we did hold our fire department elections. So officers are in place. Just one change up in Fairfield. Uh the new rebuild grass unit that you guys assisted with purchasing last fall is um finished and back. So that'll be in service here hopefully within the next week. Uh what else? Some of the support groups we have going for the event opening. Um unified commandsman meeting, joint information, traffic and transportation, security and safety, health and medical and uh there'll be probably a few more formed as we move forward. So um so far everything there is uh fallen into place and then uh yeah like 30 some control burns for the month. So and three so

okay any questions for me think we're good. Thank you Juliana. I guess if you want to do that clerk funding agreement right now. Yes, I would because I have a couple questions on that thing. Um where is it at here? It's in your It's in this pile then? It should be in your packet. Yeah. So what does it essentially mean or so that we're going to apply for money or we're going to get this money?

The state gives the clip of court offices. We're considered a contract county with the state and so they give us a percentage of it's a formula case load citations stuff like that. So it's not a lot of money but they do give it to us every year if we so opt to do that. We have historically done that. So it's nothing nothing new. Okay. So have we received money from them before? Yes. Okay. They pay it monthly to the county. They pay a portion of the salary and benefits. Um I think it's.16.

Okay. And then we have to have this signed by um April 1st, right? So I'll just have to respond to the um Supreme Court and let them know that you guys want to enter into the funding agreement. Then they send the actual documentation for you guys to sign at the meeting. Okay. All right. So, do we need the motion now or after we get the paperwork? Um, well, we can't I think if you guys are generally okay with it, then we just would give them direction that you want to move forward with it and then you'll have a motion when the when the funding paperwork comes back if that's

Yeah, the the letter indicated we just have to send them a letter in response stating that we will take the state funding for the 27 to 29 benium and then no resolution or anything else, just a are stating yes. Oh. So then you'll just give them an email. Yeah. We've always just sent them an email that says yes, we want to move forward. So only a motion just to state that we're um going to enter into this. Correct. You can make a motion.

Well, I mean I'll make the motion if that's what we got to do. I I don't think you need to. If you just give me direction to send an email back saying you guys are interested in moving forward, then once we get the paper, then you get the paperwork and then you'll make the motion. Yep. Okay, that sounds good. Anything else? Juliana. N um who else? Katie, you you had a good report for us. She always had a good one.

Basically, everything's in that write up for the report, but to summarize it, there's a pickup that you'll get an invoice for today that we purchased for the 2026 season. Um, the weed board made a motion to buy that last summer and we started looking after the first of the year. And um we are currently hiring. We've hired two employees so far for the 2026 season and then we're looking for a couple more applicants. We have several returning from last year which is nice. And then we're also working with the Roosevelt Presidential Library on revising their weed control plan. They wanted to add some additional chemicals to that. So we're working with William Locker with Nutrient Egg Solutions on revising some of that contract to suit the needs of the library. That's basically all I had. We'll be working on that new pickup the month of March to get it all geared up for summer. Hopefully, it's ready to go by April 1st.

Okay. Do you have any questions? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Okay, Kyle. Morning, commissioners. We're right on track for where we have been in the past years. So, it's nothing out of the ordinary there. Um, you might know about the rural health transformation project. Um, President Trump gave a lot of money out to the states to help rural um, medicine. And so those grants were supposed to be coming out the beginning of March. There's been a setback at the state and so we don't know if and when those grants will be coming out and what they'll be used for. Um we have been contacted by um several representatives to come up with a wish list. Uh the only problem with this grant is we have to have the cash up front and then we'll get paid on the back side. And so um whatever comes out we'll bring back to you guys and and we can go from there. Some of the things that we've been looking at is a community paramedic program partnering with Southwest District Health like we did back in what 2015 2016. Um there's also talk about equipment grants um ambulance grants and stuff like that. So we'll see where this pans out but I think the state has a billion dollars this year 500,000 something like that to get rid of. So and it has to be used by the end of the year. The cash has to be expended by the end of the year in order to get it. And so it's through a a process of

Yeah. So they have they're supposed to have I have to be careful how I word this since it's a public meeting, right? The state has to have a process of how the grants are going to be rolled out. Um the health department hasn't yet received notice from the finance department of how that's going to happen or what truly can be utilized for these grants. And so we're kind of in a holding pattern again. um if we stay in this holding pattern and the grants finally get released, you know, June and July, we're going to have to be quick on the gun to get our application in and to get the funding approved for that. So, just to keep you updated on that. Um I sit on the EMS task force for the governor's office. U we're currently working on different funding options, recruitment and retention. Um and a lot of our goal is on volunteerism. Um stuff that comes out of our group then goes to the emergency response services committee on the legislature. Um Greg Hessle actually serves on that board. We had a study performed by PWWW who has done stuff for Billings County in the past. Um if you read the newspapers in the last week that shows that EMS loses its money on every call about $500 and so we went back and looked at our billing processes and I would like your approval to improve our mileage and our BLS intermediate charges. So currently we're charging $1875 for a loaded mile and then we charge $875 for just a BLS call. When you look at billing for EMS, it's kind of all over the board. The general rule of thumb is to be at or above what Blue Trust Blue Shield is. And so those are the two that we are not. And so I'd recommend that we move to $25 for the loaded mile and we move to $1,100 for um BLS intermediate charge. How much for the second one?

1,100,00.

So, does this mean when you're doing something in our district, Billings County, Bellefield, you know, or or for beach or someone else? So it EMS billing is is quite an animal in itself

and so we only bill for patients that we actually transport and so um I shouldn't say that if we do a treat and no transport um say we have a diabetic and we give glucose or something unseen we do bill for that type of stuff. Um if it's a simple refusal we don't. Um, so when we get called out, if it's a BLS call, basic life support call where the EMT is going to handle it. There's really no additional care involved, they get charged the 875 plus the mileage to the hospital. So if it's 100 miles to the hospital, it's it's the 1875 * 100 plus the 875. And so there's one, two, three, four, five, six different rates that we charge on top of the mileage rate. So depending on how the call goes and the medications that we give and if there two or more medications kind of escalates the call um rate at that point in time.

Okay. So raising these will help will we get uh this is just got to come out of the Billings County ambulance fund or how are we this this is what gets build to the patient. Okay. And so just because it gets build to the patient doesn't mean that's what we're going to collect. Collect it.

And so I would say currently we're probably around the 46 47% of what we bill out is what we're getting back in reimbursements. U we have no choice. It is whatever the insurance companies want to pay us is basically what we get paid. Um we have made agreements with Blue Cross Blue Shield on some of these rates and so the major carriers are are pretty easy to deal with. Medicare, Medicaid is where we you're not gonna do it. You're gonna if they give you a dollar, you're going to say thank you and you're going to move on to the next call. And so, uh, that's kind of where the emergency services response services committee and the subc cabinet, we're kind of working with trying to change state rule to make sure that at least the state funding is up to par. Federal is a whole different animal that's going to have to be changed on the federal level. There is a lot of motion going on right now in EMS. Northakota is not the only one that's suffering. Every state is suffering with EMS. So hopefully we can see some motion being changed. The American Ambulance Association is really pushing forward to change how this process works. Um but currently it is what it is.

And getting back to what I said about the county. So you said 46% whatever it is. Does the county have to help the budget, your budget when when you don't get this money back? So my budget comes out of the general fund and then nothing that we collect goes back into our budget. It all goes back into the general fund. Same with all the grants and all that. Right. Yeah, it does. It all just goes right back. So if if if it would happen to go down to 35, it would just come out of the general fund to help make it balance. Okay.

So if you look at your um that revenue sheet that I gave you guys, the 5-year revenue sheet, it actually shows on there what the county brings in for uh EMS services. And that's those are the billable dollars. Um it's about right in the middle of the first page there. This one here, the one pager. Yep. So, it's right in the middle. Oh, yeah. Okay, there we go. Colony of emergency. Yep. Nope. Nope. Sorry. Oh, that big.

Yep. Under EMS services, insurance, and private reimbursements. So, that's for the 5 years. Well, I think it's a good deal. That's all we can do is up it a little bit. I mean, what would they pay? What I mean, we can't control the other part. Yeah, we're having to kick in quite a bit of money here. So,

so do we uh to move forward with this? Is this all legal to do this? Yep. So, um, I have I have an email from our billing agency basically saying exactly what I said. We want to be at or above the rates of the major carriers, and we're either at or a little bit above those rates.

Um, these other rates we've been at since 20 2019, I think when Mitch and I took over, we raised rates to the current rates. And so, these are the only two that are now out of whack. Well, I'm sorry. Yeah, I am. Jared, is that everything? Everybody's okay. We need a motion on it. I don't know that you with your rates with the state. I don't know how that agreement goes.

There's nothing with the state. Rates are set in house. So it be sent I would say you guys are making do you have a full rate sheet? So I think if you guys approve what's written what's presented that would make it simpler for all the rates. Yeah cuz I think it's been a long time since they've been approved to begin with. So, I don't see anything wrong with us making a motion, I guess, if you need one. Yeah. Okay.

So, increasing the rate just helps overall recovery. You said 46 47%. So, that's not going to change the percentage of what we is not going to change it. But if if if the rate goes from 875 to 1100, you end up recovering 47% of 1,100 instead of theoretically. Mhm.

Depends on how many Medicare Medicaid patients we have because Medicare Medicaid are only going to pay, you know, we could bill $4,000 in Medicare and Medicaid could say, "No, we're only paying you five." We could bill $10,000 and they're still going to say, "We're going to pay you five. I make a motion to approve the increase rate for the EMS as presented. I'll second. Any more discussion? So, you're going to put that in there to have the numbers in there. Okay. All in favor say I. I. I. Motion carries.

That's all I have unless you guys have any questions. Okay. Thank you. Which one is this? Okay. Do you want to do your stuff now between the two of you or however you want to do it? Okay. Did you guys get a hand out? Yep. I did get ready. You do have their bros. I got another copy here too if you don't want to go search. I saw it here. Yeah, it's somewhere in here.

Well, good morning commission. Um Patrick had asked that I do a more frequent presentation to you guys just kind of keep you guys in loop of what we're working on for you. Um we were not successful on the flex bone results for Easter road chair use path that would take it from soy creek to the bully pulpit entrance. However, we still have a grant application out there right now for transportation alternatives funds where the DOT and federal highway would pay for 80% of the construction costs of that project. Um, you guys will be responsible for the preliminary engineering and the construction engineering and any associated rideway costs for that project. Still waiting on those results, but anticipate those probably coming out in May. That's about what came out for last year's uh design projects we have right now for you. um East River Road Share use Path. Um that we did have it out for bid. Um we were not successful in obtaining temporary easements on that project. Um we had a revise um where the shared use path ultimately ended up and we will be rebidding that through the DOT in May. Um and then the next four projects um those are carry over from 22 and 23. um they're shovel ready. Um it's just waiting on the go ahead to obtain and procure right away on those projects. Um essentially where we're at on those projects. But I did attach the associated costs that the county would be responsible for kind of on all of these projects and justformational piece right there. And then a map is located as well where all these projects are located. Anticipated construction just from Rose Engineering this year would be the East River Road use path maybe to Northakota DOT. And

that's essentially what I have for you guys. Do you guys have any questions? So the shared use path phase one is good to go. Yep. That's gonna be bidding in May, right? Yeah. And that's from end of Madora here all the way up to the Soy Creek State Park entrance. Yeah. And then cuz we were granted that flex fund. You were granted flex fund dollars which paid for the preliminary engineering on that. So the phase we're at right now um in full.

When it comes to construction, you guys are responsible for 20% of the construction cost. And then you are also responsible for the construction engineering. Um I estimated those dollar amounts in here which would be a total of 636,000. And where's that number at? It's the highlighted one. Oh, there. Okay, I see. I thought that was um phase two. No, that is just phase one right there. the dollar um I see the overall estimated construction cost I believe that would be around $2 million for that whole entire project. So

okay yeah cuz we got the grant or whatever for the year for $175,000 or something right? Yes. Yeah. Okay. You guys have been submitting reimbursement requests for that. So I think we got one more to go. Okay. In phase two, we just have to do more resubmitting and get things Yeah. better organized.

And that that's a discussion piece probably, I don't know, today or in the future. But if you guys did want to proceed with doing that project without federal dollars, without grants, um that's an avenue we could go. However, I do think it's a project ultimately in the future that will be successful in obtaining flex funds and transportation alternatives funds, which are big chunks of money. So, granted that we were successful in the first round. Yeah, the first round. It's just we missed that this two-year gap for the flex funding. I think they had I don't know $500 million in requests and only gave out 160 million for flex funding.

Well, yeah, once we get this done too, you know, so the first phase. So, Yep.

Okay. Okay. That sounds good. Thank you. Yep. So, the crews have been hauling the stock piles. Um, hauling on 39th, set 7th, 49th, 135th. Um, they started on the covering the library trail that was built. I got about halfway done before it thaw it out. Thawing culverts and working on equipment. I did hire a guy for district two. He started last week Monday. We held an LTAP OSHA 10 class in Fairfield for the crew that were new that hadn't been through OSHA 10 before training. The 724 was delivered to District 3. The three Kenworth trucks were delivered. One and went to district three, two went to District 2 on Beaver Creek Road. The trees along the edge of the road there that were starting to overhang and cause problems. I have a tree crew out there removing them right now. They've been working on that.

Is that on the west side of the river? Yes. Yeah. Yep. On Beaver Creek Road there out north. Um, and then the guardrail federal hip project 3D got the bid at 788,60648 and the resolution signed to that. Need a motion for that to approve that resolution. And that was something that was um awarded back before I started there. Guard rails leading up to the bridges for safety.

Mhm. That was awarded 422. Yeah. I was I remember when it got awarded. So why did it just now get the the state finally had the funds. Okay. That's it's been ready to go for 2 years now. The engineering side of it. the state finally had the funds to do it. So So you're saying we need a motion on this resolution to accept it, right? To move forward with the project. It was bid through the DOT. Yeah. So then you're ready.

The state needs a motion from you guys, too. Okay. And then then they would give the money out and then you're ready to start doing it. Yep. Okay. Well, I'll make a motion to uh go ahead with this resolution.

Do we have a second? I second it. Okay, we have a second. Any more discussion on it? What was the the name of the awardee? Yeah, it says it there. Three of these special things. Okay. All right. All those in favor say I. I. Motion carries. Then put that in the signing pile here. And then there's the overgage lease that we need to sign with Kate, Kaen, and Braden. Okay. Is that for Scoria? Yes. How much is that? How many yards?

20 25,000 is all that's there. Is that right? All of the place. Yep. Yep. And they just want it all. They're willing to let us crush it all out. It's not a partial project. We don't have to be that. No, we can get quotes on it. It should be under the amount. I just want to see it. Did you see it yet, J? I think that's the one we That's the one you put together. Yes. Okay.

Okay. So, we'll need a motion for the Scorio lease. I make a motion. Okay. We have a motion. I'll second it. Is there any more discussion? H how soon would you be ready to crush there? I got a call for bids yet. Oh, you haven't done any of that yet? I not bids, but quotes. I haven't done any of that yet. Um, we'll see how the bid process goes today and we'll probably contact a couple of them guys and go from there, right?

Okay. All right. Do we you made a motion? I seconded. All those in favor say I. I. I. Motion carries in that pile there. Hopefully we can do it. It'd be nice to have a story in that area of the county for us district one. Yep. And trying to get things moving along, you know, Shery Pit, too, or whatever up there, right? Yep. That needs to be done yet, too. Kubis Kubis

but the overies were really involved because yeah and working on the Kubis lease they're willing to sign but with the um line item in there that states they're responsible to make sure that they own the minerals. They want to do a title search just to double check so there's no question. And he said that should take about 3 weeks to a month and then they have it signed. Okay. So and then we can get working on bidding it. Okay. Um the new trucks are the Kenworths are here. The other ones are they here yet?

They are built. They are waiting to be delivered to Dickinson and then they'll they got to put fenders on them. Like any truck you order, you got to put fenders on them and then one of them gets a wet kit also. So they should be here in the next couple weeks I would say. Is that in on the bid where we have to pay extra for that wet kit fenders? That's extra. That was extra on the can. That's

the fenders that they come with don't hold up. So we put some on there. Heavier duty or something. Okay. Something that won't get tore up as quick on the gravel roads. Just a couple minor things. Where are we at with the moors? View MOS. Check into the moors and see. I've been looking around. The one thing right now is my budget is spent on that line item. Um, you might have to make an amendment on that. We'll see. But you mean I'm purchasing new equipment, right? On my equipment line item that's spent. Okay. In between the six trucks and the two loaders.

Okay. So, I've been kind of looking around. I've visiting with other counties. They're running Shulties. Um, just getting quotes from a couple different dealers on the Shty to see where you're going to get your best price. Mhm. But that's what they're saying is lasting. So, yeah. Yeah. And they're last quote I got on those with a side hitch so it'll you can run on the road and run they're looking at like mid70s for those 70.

Yeah. Yeah. Mid70s. So they're a chunk of change. Um but they're still safer though. That's just a better deal. Yeah. Well and they won't work on all all roads I'm afraid. But we'd like to try a couple of them and see. So, or maybe get one for each district. I'll bring back quotes and we can go over that and possibly amend that line item if we have to.

Okay. Well, I think we we're going to have to amend the line item. And there's maybe a couple other items. Can we get a new updated list? Cuz you know, now the list you gave me and I don't know where it's at in my pile. uh of of of your when you're going to replace things. Okay. You know what I'm saying? You had Yeah. So now things have been replaced and now we need to Yep. I can update it. Sure. And POS the way things are going. I'm going to have to accelerate that list a little bit.

Sure. just with um some of the repairs we've had on equipment and on trucks, I'm going to have to roll them over a little sooner than I originally anticipated. So, the annual budget line is going to have to go up. So, no, that's that's fine. That's fine. One one thing I'd like to add, and I'm sure you're looking at it, but can you get rid of that 2007 motor in District One? That's scheduled for next year, is it? Yep, it is. It's on the list. It's been on the list.

There's been problems with that when I was there and it should have been gone. And I mean, they're down to, you look at three district three, not comparing, but they got new loaders. Two does and district one has one and that 2007 that you basically can't even set out when it's cold because it's not going to start. No. And that was on the list for this year until we had a big maintenance item on the one and three. We had to change things up. That's fine. I just It is on the list, you know, and I'll get an updated list for you. Yeah. So you can see kind of the line of thinking. Okay. And then our meeting uh with uh Golden Valley

Golden Valley. Yeah. Okay. I believe that's the third year. Yeah, that's the RFP. Yeah. Okay. And I'm assuming we'll be checking into RFPs and looking them over before then on the 20th. I think they have to be turned in by Yeah. Okay. So, we might have a special meeting in between. I believe that was just or just interviews maybe. I believe it was Pete, myself, Rory, and Jim who was originally appointed to Y look into that project. Mhm. between the 20th and the 30th. Yeah. And then come with a

Then come with one. Yeah. On on for 30th. Yeah. But everybody will get the RFP or the application. Yeah. Okay. That one will be on the 20th. Yeah. Well, they're due on the 20th. In between the 20th and 30th, we'll have to set a date. Gotcha. Okay. So, okay, sounds good. Thank you. Then if you got nobody else got another questions. Oh, I think we're good. Thank you.

So, we can start in with um you guys want to go 5 minutes early for the library? You're you're scheduled for 9:45. I don't think we have any or Marcia, do you have something or Jared, I guess. Um, no, just I was going to mention the the RFPs and the upcoming meetings on that. Um, sorry.

I guess that's kind of the extent of it. Um, I think next month we want to go through the handbook and touch on some uh questions, concerns that the department head meeting um, yielded stuff that's been on the radar for a while. um drug testing, overtime, uh snow days, things like that for for next month once we get through um effectively March here with the the Buffalo Gap expansion meetings and and road stuff.

Okay. Marsha.

Well, I provided you my reports and next meeting when we start going through budget related items, then we'll get deeper into that. I just wanted you to have some information prior to those discussions and then you can ask questions. Um, I have a question. But yeah, we can I see that we are in um we're on uh what do you call it? Um can't think of where we're at online. the YouTube

YouTube thing. So, my question is is I don't remember us uh I don't remember us talking about it, but I don't always remember anything and then everything, but shouldn't that have been in the resolution on January 1? Because we the resolution says that we're going to put our minutes in the paper,

right? So for the recordings for when people request the recordings that's why I put them there cuz to send them it takes up so much space that I can't send them through email if that makes sense. So when they request I haven't published it anywhere or you know put that out on the website or anything. It's just for when people request the meeting minutes or the recording of the meeting.

That's where I send them to watch it. Okay. So, can we do that on our own website? That's my one of my instead of doing it out in the public. I think it's so it's they're both public but well they are but you'd have to log in to get to the like we looked at it like the website you you have to have it digitized first before you can actually put it on the website the Billings County website like it would be like if you put it on the website it would be basically linking back to the YouTube I mean right why would you have to use YouTube though

because YouTube is the is digital. That's how you create the digital platform for it to be put on the internet. So, it has to be on MP4. So, then we have to create it within this site because you can't just I can't just take that recording and plug it into the computer and put it on our website. It doesn't work that way. So, you have to create an MP4 file and then put it on like a what's the other one? There's YouTube, there's there's a bunch of different websites that you can use to create those. But

okay, could it be on teams or I mean we we limited teams because we didn't want everybody coming in? I I feel that it's going out to the world. I mean, somebody in South America can be looking at YouTube. somebody from South America isn't going to come and look at our minutes on Bill County website. I just use that as an example. You know what I mean? So when people like Lori Elliott or you know anybody anybody requests it's open record. Yeah. Those to them that was the problem is it was taking so long and they were kicking back from their emails and from

various sites. So I put them on the YouTube page. So then they can go there if they call me request to review the the minutes or the recording that's where they can hear it. So if we want to put a link to that on our website for people to go to that, that's fine. But to put them actually on the website, I don't think that that's a possibility.

No. And the website has like file size limitations too on what you can upload. Well, can't you upgrade the website or I don't understand all this stuff, you know? I'm kind of green on anything computer that's saying you just can't put a file on the website for the recording. I mean, we link on the website to YouTube. That's what most counties do and that's what um the Civic Plus platform that they use for website. That's what um they they have in their instruction. So, was zoning on there, too? No. No. We don't record.

I know. We don't record it. I don't. So, how was it in the past? We didn't record until Mike decided to record at one point. So, yeah, like 21, 22 or somewhere. And so they weren't I mean unless they were requested to be listened to they weren't until

recent events they haven't been requested like the um short stuff and things like that. So then people were requesting the recordings. So when I send them I was sending them cuz I couldn't send them through the ND gov. So when they called I'd have to send them through a Gmail account. So then that got to be such a large file that then they wanted me to pay and it was my personal Gmail account that I was sending them through because I didn't want to create a separate county account. So I mean this is good. We got to talk about it. But

I didn't find out about that that was on YouTube until last week. And so that's why I was it YouTube. Yeah. Um, so do we have to record? What do you mean? Like before this all happened, she said there was no recording. So, do we have to Oh, well, I'm just asking. Yeah, the motion was made to do that. And I would like to revisit that too in a way. Um, when you said back when Mike did it, didn't we put a stipulation of how long the recordings would be kept? So, at that point, I can't remember. Have to look back.

But, I mean, to me, I've talked to a couple other counties about recordings and stuff, and they just put them on a database, and they're saved forever. So, I'm hoping that that's what we're doing if if we're going to record. So, I have them. I mean, they're they're all saved. They're saved, but And so, if the county has them, then they're open record. Mhm.

If you don't want to record, then you don't have anything to provide for an open records request. So, and that's, you know, whatever you guys decide to do. You don't have to create something to provide to the public, but if you do, it is open to the public. Well, it is all open to the public. Yeah. You come to the meeting, come down and read this. Yeah. Or you could record it yourself and put it on whatever. I mean it's it's uh I just wanted some explanation and so I um

YouTube is a a universal platform you know that I know the city of Dickinson uploads you know they have a link I believe on the city's website that just takes you right into YouTube. Um, City of Dickinson has has their own YouTube page um for completeness and and the ability to go back and review. Um, I found the recordings helpful. I reviewed last month's in preparation to double check the minutes. Um, it's helpful. Um, are they automatically uploaded, Marcia? Just just when just when people when people request it, then you would upload it. Correct. So, it's not a it's not a monthly thing. If nobody requests a recording,

I have one person that requests every month. Okay. So, sure. Well, I can understand the ease of it. I I see that. I I think if we're going to do it, I still feel that we should maybe have the link at the Billings County website to get there. I think it would be less um so it doesn't look like it's something separate from the county. I understand that.

That's where I'm just coming from, but I'm just one person. I I feel that it that we're letting um I guess whatever social media, I'm not on any of it. So, it's hard to for me to understand it all. Right. So YouTube the, you know, I didn't put it on the the website and I didn't put it on the Facebook page because it wasn't something that I was promoting, if that makes sense. It was just a way for me to provide it to somebody that they get it. So if it was on the website, then they wouldn't even have to call or if they did, you just tell them.

Well, they don't have, you know, like the one I get an email every month, so I provide it, but But now that they know if it's going to be there, they wouldn't just go there and they wouldn't have to call then. I would rather see that because then you have to go to Billings County to get it in a way. Is it is that possible? So I don't think I can make it restricted except for through that link cuz it's still a website, you know, it's

um so it's a just like our our agendas and minutes so people can subscribe to them on our website. Um so when they do that they automatically get an email that says this is ready for you to review. So they can look at the agenda, look at the minutes. But for the um for the YouTube, YouTube itself has a subscription link. So people if they go on it, they can say, "Oh yeah, every time an upload comes, I want to be notified of it." It doesn't it's not a I guess it's not out there, you know, promoting it or advertising it to anybody. It's just the person that subscribed to it gets a notification.

So you have to pay to subscribe. No, no, no. But they have to subscribe. If Okay. Just like with our minutes, they can go to the website and they can see it, but unless they if they subscribe, then they get a notification that it that a new one is there. Just like our agenda and minutes. But there's no way for me to block access to that. So the ones that ask for it now on YouTube, they don't ask you because they got the they got that link so they can go on it after. So they can go on it every month after the meeting.

I mean, it takes me a couple days. When I when I get there, I get it up, right? So it might be a day or two before you get it up. Whatever. Yeah. Right. is putting it on web page a good thing, bad, something good, bad, or whatever. I I don't

just from what my understanding is, like as Stacy indicated, the website itself, you still have to have a medium to to play it. Um, and so YouTube is just that the medium in which to to listen to it. So I suppose there could be a link that you could click on on the website that but then it would take you right back to YouTube. It's as Marcia said, there's two or three others, but they're not nearly as universal or popular. Um, you know, just for for streaming purposes. That's my own personal knowledge, not a not a a legal take. But I I don't have any issue with it being uploaded that way for them to be published. It is a public record. Um yeah, cuz if it's published in the paper, it's public record and and we make a resolution toward that. Correct.

That's in January. Yeah. for the minutes, they have to be published in the in the newspaper. And I mean, this is essentially the minutes. It's it's just recorded minutes. Yeah.

Well, I'm fine with being able to make it simpler and easier, but I uh I just feel that it should be on there in a way on our web and then I guess it directs you to there, I guess. But The only problem I foresee, and I'm not a web developer, I'm not sure who in house works with the website, but um to to recreate the website on a monthly basis with a link, that might be difficult. So Stacy and I So the link would go it would be one link to that page

from the website, but then the YouTube page would be the one that would have to be updated regardless. Yeah. And I'm pretty sure the platform I'd have to take a look at it because we haven't uploaded the actual videos yet. But just like how we we set up the meeting date on the calendar and then to post the agenda, to post the minutes, it's just a couple clicks of a mouse. And then I'm pretty sure Civic Plus has a way to just put that link in there as well. So it's just, you know, when you upload the agenda and you upload the the minutes, it would just be another couple clicks.

So there could be a direct link, but I'm envisioning, you know, on a monthly basis where it says, you know, February 4th or March 2nd. We wouldn't need Could you do something like that? So it just takes you right there. Yeah. So we have that already for our meeting minutes and the agenda. So if you clicked on that, it would it would be another spot right there that says Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's a way to like have it on like where the minutes are stored. So it' be like if there's a little box to click on for minutes or the box to click on for the agenda, then there would be a box to click on

probably. But I'd have to check and make sure just to see how that works. But yeah, it's it's definitely doable and it is fairly universal as was already stated. you know, a lot of cities and counties are going that direction, you know, just because it's it saves time in house, you know, as opposed to trying to upload links that get lost and and it's a space. I mean the the size of these files are so big that that's the problem is that you know when somebody requests it you know and we don't want to give everybody a flash drive because those are not cheap

and then we don't want to use somebody's flash drive that isn't working for the county to upload stuff because that can corrupt computers here. So that's where all of this comes from. Yeah. So YouTube is the one that houses houses the file and then the links are are nothing on our website. Like we're not taking up space on our own website for the link. Okay. And there's no cost to it. Yeah. Well, that's good. Well, I think um are you okay with it? I'm fine with it, but

do you I guess or Steve or maybe look into it? Yeah, let's let's wait a month and let Steve have some feedback on it and maybe you guys try to um if you like one way better than another or whatever. Yeah. Doesn't matter to me. But if they're, you know, if they're public, we want to make them public. Mhm. If they're if they're if you guys choose not to do it, then we'll delete them and or delete, you know, not put them up. So, whichever way you want to do it. And if we delete them and not put them up, nobody could ask for it. Right. Right. If you choose not to record Oh, record. Yeah. Right.

Okay. Well, we'll revisit it with some more information and then Steve will be here too hopefully. So, okay. That's my questions, I guess. So, now we'll move into your 15 minutes. You ready? Yep. Okay. Sorry about that. All good. I want to share with you guys a draft of our alcohol management and safety plan. It is in draft form. Um, obviously curious to your feedback um through this session. Marsha, did you have the power?

I am working on getting That's fine, too.

I'm going to get it, I think. No, that's totally fine. I wanted to center most of the discussion today on the outdoors as I think that's where the majority of the questions were from last time. And so wanted to talk a little bit about why for the outdoors um where specifically and really like what is our safety plan around that to manage those areas. But obviously if there's questions on indoors or retail sales or anything like that, I can answer questions as well. Can you go to the second slide for me? Perfect.

So, Ken right here has done an incredible job over the last 5 years designing an experience out there that isn't just an indoor museum. You know, we like to say that there's 2 to four hours of experience inside, but there's also 2 to four hours of experience outside. We believe that Theodore Roosevelt wanted um our guests to explore the Badlands and really learn about the the acres that we have up there just as much as he wanted to tell the story of of him and his legacy. And so part of that and and how that kind of touches on the alcohol piece is that we have hired an incredible um executive chef named Candace Stock. Candace Stock is an indigenous woman um from the state of North Dakota who has curated and um created this incredible u menu based on the land, based on foraging off the land. Uh it's not chicken fingers and French fries and pizza. Um it is bison, it is local produce. Um it is an experience that tells a story about um what we have built and and the bad lands in North Dakota as a whole. And so, you know, I think I the experience that I want you to picture is being able to come up to the site um get a picnic basket um with a can of wine or a beer or something like that and take that out onto the boardwalk um to set up one of our many picnic tables out there and enjoy time with family or friends. I think an important piece to note is that um we'll be selling single service items out of the cafe that you would take out there. The boardwalk as a whole is almost a mile long. And so if you came in and purchased a picnic basket and and a a glass or a can of wine and you take it out there to have a second serving, you're going to walk a mile back. You're going to get and then come back. And so it is not conducive to overconumption in that sense, but it is conducive to

truly being out there being on the landscape and enjoying the bad lands. Next slide. Um, and along with that, we put together in in the plan in in your hands there, but also up here, we put together a pretty robust plan on how to manage um alcohol and and create a safe environment. It's important that you know that we have a uh security team uh who's doing hourly patrols around the site um anytime that we're open. There will be times where we have 24-hour security as well, but that's really dictated by the artifacts that we have on site. And so, anytime that there are people there that we are operating as a business, we will have a security team who is out there roaming. We will also have ground staff, maintenance staff um in and around the area. Again, focusing on, you know, the roof and the boardwalk here, but we plan to have lots of employees who are circulating around the area. stuff like mandatory ID checks, zero tolerance for over service, um no outside alcohol are all things that we've taken um as a part of our plan. Um I want to reiterate that the team that we have created has a lot of experience. Our chef um has has operated and owned catering businesses her entire life. Um myself, I have operated um inexperienced businesses like this. The last place I I oversaw had a hotel, a golf course, a ski area, and 110 acres with an alcohol license throughout the property. We take that responsibility very seriously um and are putting together a plan that um ultimately keeps us in compliance and and keeps the community safe. Next slide. Go to the map. Here's a map of the areas that we're hoping to license for alcohol consumption. Obviously, the building, both the east

and the west side. Um, and then the boardwalk as a whole. We'd be putting in measures to ensure that people are not leaving through the mate or through the parking lot with any alcohol that they purchased on site. Next slide. some of the different components that I talked about on the boardwalk um that I think are conducive to experiences whether it is a a wedding party or a family or whatever it may be. Um we have lots of picnic tables throughout the overlooks um picnic areas and then the grass areas for programming again groups events um or just general experiences. slide. Here's a shot of kind of the exterior of the cafe. So, the cafe is on the left side there, kind of on the curve coming through the middle of the the photo. Um, there is some I think I have a better picture of it next, but there is some outdoor seating just outside of the cafe there. There's some renderings as well just sitting outside of the cafe. So, question right away here. All of this area, go back there. Doesn't matter. But there's looks like there's um picnic tables over here.

Y and over here. Yep. Okay.

That's right on the outside of the the two sides of the building. It's probably our highest traffic area. Place that we hope people will sit down in and relax and enjoy the scenery. Let's go through the different locations indoors as well that we'd be permitting alcohol, different events, experiences, programming, etc.

Yeah. So, you won't get to go into every exhibit with alcohol? No. A lot of our artifacts uh dictate that there's no food and beverage within a certain area. Did you see this? So, where would the main um or is it the only place that you could buy alcohol?

The main place where we would um sell alcohol is out of the restaurant uh which is in kind of that bottom center area right there. We would also and are applying for retail sales out of the or out of the store which is um kind of on the top there. Um that would be sealed alcohol that is sold and not to be opened on the premises. And then uh there would be occasions where we would have a wedding or an event or a program that we would use a popup bar within uh the licensed area to dispense alcohol. the temporary gallery over on the west side, kind of the big triangular space in the middle, um, is probably one of our largest event spaces, um, that we would host dinners, celebrations, etc. So it would be a place where we would turn into a dinner seating and and serve alcohol there. I think the last bit I would share um let's see if there's any more questions is that we've tried to develop a program uh that has a high level of security sophistication and and and careful consideration of consumption. Um, we've often been compared to the golf course

um as a similar experience. Obviously, it differs, but we believe that through the security, through the ground staff, and through the alcohol management plan, we really built um a process that will keep people safe and and go above and beyond the experience at the golf course to manage alcohol consumption. So, what is I don't know. What does our golf course offer? Do we How's that work with Do they You can go out and I assume what he's saying. You can go out,

right, on the whole golf course and you can go on. So, there's a golf cart that comes around, right? And you can purchase liquor as you go around the course. I'm not a golfer. Most most golf courses. Yeah. I'm not a golfer either, but I have been out there. But and then they have a shack out there too, right? Because we approved it in zone.

Yeah. Yeah. The one thing that's a little different from a golf course the loop of the library is that you pay to be on the golf course. Like the library loop will be open to everybody. Like there isn't any t you know you're not being ticketed to go walk around the the library grounds. You're only ticketed to be inside the library. You're not ticketed to be outside of the library. Whereas the golf course like random people just can't go on the golf course. And do they have uh security out there? They have at the library. I found No, no, no. Go first.

Go first. They have rangers that go around and monitor, but I don't think that they have specific security. I don't know.

So, I'll be honest with you. Last meeting there was most of us commissioners, I believe, and even the sheriff, you know, we even made a motion. I guess I was expecting to have somebody come back from the library and do a perimeter right around the library for the liquor license. So when this got presented now I'm kind of I'm not all in favor of it. I'll be honest, but did you Steve Steve made a

Well, yeah. Steve isn't here, but he he's he wrote a little letter stating that um he's not in favor of um outside on the loop just just within we've all kind of maybe talked about that day of 100 ft outside the building or 200 feet, whatever the the dimensions are going to come up to be. And so that's what he um uh he he wanted it to be restricted within the building, porch, patio um and not out on the 93 acres, but that's just his, you know, will the boardwalk be monitored by roving staff and there's going to be sufficient garbage receptacles around the the onem track.

So something happens, our sheriff's department still gets called, right? I mean, cuz that's what I gathered from our sheriff last meeting. He doesn't want He thinks he'll be overwhelmingly um you mentioned control measures to keep things on the grounds. There are no control measures that are going to be able to keep somebody from running up the Ma swinging into your restaurant, grabbing a beer, and then going back out on the Mave. Are you going to have a person at that gate 24/7 to

to keep prevent that or prevent somebody going into your off sale or into your gift shop and buying a six-pack and then going out onto the onto the grounds and consuming there? You say you have control measures, but what are those control measures and how how are they going to work? I don't see how that's going to work.

So to answer your question first, our team will be trained to ultimately be the first responders and we will manage any situation that we can in house. Then we would use the sheriff um for anything outside of our capabilities. We've just hired a team member who spent 20 years in security and comes with a a really great set of credentials to train and implement a strong team there. To answer your question, I think we will have a roaming team there and if we were to set up an event style situation out there and we would absolutely put teams around there at the entrance. But it for me it feels very similar to the golf course where there are plenty of points of exit around the golf course and there are nobody um out there ensuring that people aren't leaving or bringing their own alcohol. So I think it feels pretty similar. Well, and if someone wanted to leave the M hey trail, that's all forest service land because your land is right. I mean, those horse riders, whatever, they they they have insulated packs on their saddles and so I don't think we can they can even stop them from going back out there, can they?

We would ask people not to leave our property with with alcohol. You would there's no way preventing it. No, but but there's no measures that are going to prevent it, right? And and there wouldn't be anything illegal about it either. Illegal. No safety standpoint. Yeah. So, like a hypothetical, um, for off-sale purposes, if if there was a a bulk six-pack of TRPL branded alcohol, how would it be enforced to prevent somebody from buying a a six-pack or or larger and then taking that throughout the premises?

Yeah. So, it' be sealed to be communicated at the point of sale. Um, and just like anything else, as we're doing our rounds, if we see alcohol that is not being sold by us or that um, items from the gift shop, we would intercept that individual and ask them to leave and confiscate the alcohol.

Is it anticipated that you'll have um, you know, is it all going to be specialty alcohol? So, if somebody has a recognized can of Bud Light, that wouldn't be something that is going to be sold on premises. It's all TR related bourbon or or something of those sort. And honestly, it's an incredibly small amount right now. We're looking at at one vendor for one half. So, you have there's time you're going to have doings probably a lot up there. Um, isn't it how it is now is when something special event like the amphitheater when that band comes in on Monday, they ask for a special permit to have liquor. So is it that can't you do that like if if it was restricted around the building and then you have any kind of doings and you just ask for a special permit and then you can have the liquor outside of that. I mean um am I saying I mean you don't have to

because I mean it would be a $25 permit. So the special event permits are for anything that isn't within a licensed area. So, just like um if they have a wedding or they had the event, you know, the band and they allowed them to go over to the mezzanine area, so then they special permitted. So, they could get a special permit and have that liquor go out on the

we can, but we are an event center and and events will be and programming is what we do. And so to go out and get a special permit every single time that we do that becomes prohibited. There will be multiple programs and events each week. Hopefully. Yeah. Just from my perspective, I think if if they're going to have more of a limited scope of offering, I think that is probably better than a full open bar of five or six different types of alcohol where people may tend to, you know, over consume or otherwise. Just my two cents. Why would you have Well, the only reason to me is um bulk sale or what do you call that?

Off sale. Off sale. So, if you had off sale and you bought a six-pack, is that to go home with you, take it, put it in your bag as a memorabilia of of the library? Is that more what that's in? Cuz if you bought a six-pack and put it in your basket that you're saying and then went out on the loop, I guess you could potentially drink your six-pack out there. On-site consumption would only be sold from the restaurant.

Okay. But you can take one drink and put it in your basket like you could one can of pop. Let's just say from the restaurant. Yeah. For sure. And then you would walk out to one of those tables and well there and then um have your lunch and have your one drink.

Yep. I think I read in there somewhere where there would be a six-month review. on this application or something. I don't remember if I read it. This one we're up annually, right? And we won't start selling until obviously July 1st. And so I would assume that Yeah, that would that would be the six months, right? So they'd have to reapply in in November, December time period like every every year

applicant I guess I still feel that if the golf cars can do this, then why can't the library do the same thing. Um, that's just one of my thoughts. Um, cuz how can we limit have one and limit another? I I don't know how we can do that. And

you did get all your um applications into the state, correct? Has that been they're waiting for the county to approve?

Yeah. I'll be honest, I'm not fully on board with it yet. I was just expecting to come back and what we talked about last meeting. We all agreed on one way and we didn't have the motion go through. We killed it. I know that Steve is more or less against it and um because of his letter and um you're unsure and if I made a motion there would have to be a second but um cuz I I'm okay with it because I feel that you're going to be responsible of of the whole thing. So, um, so we're going to need a motion. Is that right?

Can we table it? Is that gonna um be okay with you guys to table it so that get a little more input the sheriff isn't here and then this you our other commissioner isn't here and so I think it's good enough reason. So,

and then just as a clarification for for Dean for when he comes back to would um if it were approved, would you guys be willing to give um notice of all the special events um as like if you said per week there's going to be x number of special events, would you be able to notify? Um would would that notice come through permits though?

Right. But if they if if they if they did approve the full, would they still be willing to at least notify um of any events? think it would make sense to to work out something with the sheriff's department to say, "Hey, events that have more than X people or events that have these parameters, we have a lot of things from very simple um speaker series all the way to large events like the grand opening." So, the answer is yes. And I would just want to work out what those parameters are so we can ensure that we report the right items and not every single thing that we're doing. And I'm just thinking for like a a wedding or you know the larger larger events

or like the the first through the fourth is going to for sure going to be your one of your big events definitely. And you'd want to apply for it to go out the whole thing. Is that what we're talking about? Right. That too. Yeah. Yeah. What What about that simple event? I'm here with my wife and I want to go out on my anniversary in the middle of the week or any day. We would love to have that ability to do that. Yeah. And I'm not talking about I'm just saying if the if they approve the the full liquid.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. For getting a permit every time there'll be it's going to be such an amazing destination point to be able to participate in and experience and this would be one of the ways that it would be for me an intimate setting to be able to do that. And I see that I guess I was looking at more of a bigger event, you know, wedding, you know, um you and your wife want to do it and invite everybody to go do it, you know, a bigger event to to do it, but um you know, it's hard to I know visiting a while back with the sheriff's side of it and all that and the support of that side and they're you're kind of like caught in the middle right now and I didn't expect this. So, and when I'm undecided on something, I will decon make the motion. I will not second it today. So,

I just think if we could table it one month, and I think we all agree, we're going to give you the the the license for it in and around 100 ft or whatever. Um, we deem this this whatever. Can you pull backwards, Marca? On on kind of the picture of the where they were going to sell alcohol, you know, inside the building or what was it couple bath? I mean, I think you're going to get that no problem. Or even outside, but it's so Yeah, I know outside the building, too. 100 ft, 200 feet, whatever it takes.

You'd have to, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It would be hard, but I mean, would you pass the building or dispatching of the building with the ability to consume out there and then any selling of the alcohol out on the boardwalk, we would revisit next month? That makes sense. Yeah. And that's why I said what I said, too. So, I'm fine with that.

Mhm. I'm thinking Steve is too because his letter mostly reflects on the 93 acres too large of an area. He says he has restricted I mean so we can you could use the building and porch patio area whatever around. I'd be on favor with that. We did make that we just did not. So you'd be able to purchase in the cafe and then take out onto the boardwalk to consume. You just wouldn't be able to set up a bar on the boardwalk is what you're saying, right?

Or take it out there on the boardwalk. You know, the boardwalk meaning the big circle.

I think our hope with what Ken was talking about is to ultimately grab something from there and then walk out to consume on one of the picnic tables around the the boardwalk. But to get a second drink, you would have to walk all the way back into the cafe, right? So it would ultimately at this point prohibit a popup bar that would go on around the boardwalk of that style. Well, and that would be included in the 93 acres and you know, even one drink. But uh you want to make a motion of some sort?

Well, I wouldn't make it what we just talked about last month. um restricted within the building and the building premises 100 ft or whatever because that picture there is wherever you have those picnic tables out patio area that's porch area that's right around the building on the top of the building around the building. Yeah. Is there anything in here anywhere that says you can't take it to your parking lot open container? Was that written?

Well, I think what we've applied for are those two areas there, the red and the green. And so that would say, hey, outside of that area, we would we all know you're not going to, but yeah, we would set up signage and obviously patrols and all the things necessary. Okay. I would say if we kick it to next month, please let us know um the items that you think would be valuable for us to produce. It makes you feel more comfortable.

Okay. Well, you're going to do that motion just around the building. Yeah. And then you bring something back again next month or you work with the sheriff's on the if you're you know um I'm not sold on that. I just but I'm not going to rule it out. I he's got to be in favor of that too along with other ones. So So do you want to table it or do you want a motion made? I'd like to probably table it. The whole thing. The whole thing right now I think would be better than unless you needed that motion or that deal for that building. No, we have time. Okay.

Just a lot easier than to redo stuff next month and go. Yeah. And add to it and then Yeah. Yeah. So, it would be better to do it all at once. I I agree with that also. So, thank you very much. Thank you both. Okay, we're at 10:30. Are we going to take a break or what's next? Zoning. Zoning won't take too long. Zoning. Okay. The next thing on the agend. Okay. So yeah, let's just do you and then we'll um have a 15 minute. If you can do it in 15 minutes, yeah, I'll be okay. I'll be ready.

And so for zoning, we we didn't have any applications on the agenda and um but we did approve two um ordinances that will come before you guys. there wasn't enough weeks between our zoning meeting and this meeting to have like the required twoe publication in the paper for the final public hearing. And so um I talked to Marcia and we'll put the final hearing on for the flood plane management ordinance and then the updates that we did to the campground ordinance following the special meeting on March 30th. and the flood plane management ordinance. I did send the draft to the state water commission and then they sent it off to FEMA and we gotten our um report back saying that you know FEMA doesn't have any comments that we would have to like make adjustments for. So everything is good to go um for that. And then the campground ordinance was updated um just to do some modifications for uh like a new camping style called glamping which is like fancy tents with real furniture and some have bathroom facilities, some don't but there was just a minor modification to our existing campground regulations. And so that would be on the agenda for um March 30th. And so these are the copies that you guys can take home. And then the official review would be the March 30th. Um, and then for the flood plane ordinance there, it's colorcoded like the state had a model ordinance. That's basically you you just copy what the state has. And then so anything with green is fill in the blanks and anything with yellow are pieces that I added which are are fairly minor. There's a couple of extra definitions um in there and then a couple of points

for clarification. But yeah, there wasn't any comments and the state is good with the ordinance revisions and FEMA's good with ordinance revisions and so that'll that'll be it. And then we had one ARW application for RTC networks. They're installing a fiber line along Chatau Road going up to the top of the hill um for um the library infrastructure. So it's funny they wouldn't had that done before. Yeah, I think they were somebody missed that step. Which which number is this?

Um, this one is ARW 26-3. Yeah. So, they're going from the bottom of the hill to like around the top of the hill. It's kind of hard to see. Then over to the library. Yep. Well, it's over to the top of like the foundation, the existing vault. Okay. Like it ends here like right before like Jaden Terrace is over here. Okay. So it goes from bottom of the hill to the the top of the hill to the top and P that one with no conditions.

Okay. Is you okay with this? I'll make a motion to to accept the 26 2026-3 with RTC.

Um, first I'll second it when you call for it. Yep. That's We have a second. All in favor say I. I. I. Motion carries. And then on March 18th, there will be a meeting with the counties and the Forest Service and the Grazing Association for Travel Management. It's just one country and that's just one. Yeah. So Dean is Dean is our guy for that meeting. Otherwise, we'd have to post it as like special meeting, but but travel management has been under Dean's review. So So we got Thank you. Yep. Yeah.

Okay. And that goes from 2 to 4 and that'll be here at the courthouse, I think. Yep. Anything else? Well, that's pretty pretty short. True. That's the thing is I there's been Well, our our our zoning agenda for for next month for March, I had to use letter or legal size paper instead of letter size paper. So, we got a few more things on the agenda for for March by the Yeah. Okay. But then these two items we're going to address at our special meeting on the 30th, like probably the special meeting. Yeah. So you'll adjourn the joint special meeting and then have a All right. Right. Cuz we have to have it done by April or May 1st. Like March 31st.

Yeah. All right. So we're cutting it kind of close, but that there was like some misinterpretation. I always thought it was like June like May 31st, but then somebody's like, "No, it's not May 31st. It's March 31st." Okay. Okay. We we have time. Vimma has already reviewed our stuff and we're we'll be good to go. All right. We'll have a short break.

Sure. Yeah. Everything is good. Yeah. Yeah. Did you get the message from that? No. Have too much left. Anyway, I thought for all their papers everybody handing in. It's going to be longer. Yeah, I did.

Thanks for the update. No one She wasn't recording. I think my ice be on Saturday and pull up and the whole north shore is just open water all the way along the north shore and then comes in all open water and I was like how much do I want to fish today? I was like,

"No, I drilled holes. I was still on the slow shore. It was still six, seven inches." Okay. So, I fished the Southshore on Saturday and then Sunday I caught about a dozen again. Okay. And then Sunday I took Brad and he's like, "We're not fishing in this." I was like, "It's still funny." The paddle will look out. As the day went on, the water kept creeping closer and closer closer. It's like it's still 5 in of ice. It's just water on top. We're fine. Still might just pull away. We'll be fine. Today and tomorrow you see that perch that was caught up in Devil's Lake 2.99. Yeah.

Big mother and not even a North Dakota person. I don't but I that's not a true anymore. I don't care. These are the only things that you didn't see. These are We had one trust lands um easement, but now we have three and they're all for prior projects that were done up on by TR Road. So, it's just the final No, that's fine. I I had asked Olivia if that ever came up in a P&Z meeting or something or otherwise cuz I wasn't sure what those were either. No, it was for a road project. Yeah. And Stacy looked for them and they were Yeah, it was a lot of paper this month.

Yeah. Oh, I was going to give you one of these, too. This is what I gave the guys to explain.

We're done with the month. These are all the county funds. So, it explains, you know, what's road bridge money, what's general fun money, special funds, and the trust funds, and the federal restricted funds. Okay? And then what was budgeted for the general fund? So what was in reserve as of the end of the year and then these are the revenue and expenditures from the last five years. So at the end it gives and that's just for the general fund. So it's just the top but it's a good explan explanatory. So it shows like the revenues for the last 5 years and the expenditures for the last 5 years. So we're about a million June 22nd

about a million over every year in June. Yeah. A million over on expenditure. Yep. Versus revenue. But then on June 22nd I'll be Yeah, I was just trying to figure out how to get everything down in one place that's just easy to understand. Yeah, she was 29. She did like 80. And then I don't think I sent you this, but this is just the You did send that. Yep. Standard standard stuff. The statue. Okay. It works.

She'll be good with a YouTube page. I saw it up on Dean's computer earlier and I was like, he probably has an issue with it. But I don't know how else to provide that. I visited with Olivia, you know, and you know, it's just it's standard stuff and a lot of counties do it, you know. Yeah. So I, you know, with with things like that, I kind of take under an assumption. That's my job. So I put it out. Olivia concurs that you know if there was an issue if they don't want it then you know a vote would take it down but there's no issue with

publishing it and I get why it's done you know then yeah actually it's a news guy that wants it every month sure I think if they stop doing that then that's going to cause drama no it's helpful I mean to go for me to listen and and cuz regardless I would still have to record it for my use for creating the minutes and then I could right after but either way no that's fine now I want to like break down and I understand but then he had his record video too and I'm like I'm not

providing that because that is ridiculously difficult to a lot larger file sizes video.

Yeah, it's really neat. And then there was like no screen, you know, down instrument. Okay. That was Get some more juice, I guess. So, where was wasn't there like a whiskey that was by the white? Maybe someone said she buried it still up there with all the whiskey. But I wonder

160 a quarter. But then in the bad lands, could they get more? There's a bunch of those are 320. Hold on. Let me get the history books. I'll just do some research for us. Well, every time I find a piece of metal in the middle of nowhere, I don't really whiskey. Oh, that's what they called her up by uh up by tail picnic. There's a rumor that she would had a still up there. Do you know her last name? I do not. Let me go look up.

Let me look up Jim. Hey, see if he's a nerd notebook as a moon. L I O L E O. Yeah, that's it. Mr. Mrs. Norma, Mr. and Mrs. Paul, and Skyler. Skyler. S c h u that's sky. That's not Skyler. There's no R on it. I had some Skyler. That's S C H U Y L E.

Well, the legal document I that's the Well, he isn't the That's not the one. It was his wife's sister's husband was I got was born in Cleveland in 1831. It open, right? So, who's going to be here? And you're supposed to be here.

Yeah. So, these are all the bids that have been received. Okay. But we have to wait till 11 because that's when it's published. So they can potentially still turn them in. How many do we have? Looks like we have a few. Yeah, we have a few. Well, there's one that I'm not sure if it's a bid for this project to four. Mhm. Yeah, this one says bid and close, but it doesn't say what bids and close. So, I wasn't sure if they were contractor rate sheets cuz they actually turned it in like right after the meeting last month. So, it could be for something else. But California is deceased. Alice is deceased.

Is there something that we could do before 11:00 that pledges? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. We can get all my stuff out of the way. then that way we uh it just helps at the end. Yep. So, we'll call the meeting back to order and then we'll do what you got there. Okay. I've got resolution 2026-13. I did send this to you guys in email. Y

um it's just the pledges as of December 31st of 2025. Um Choice Financial is overpled. Um, is overpledged and First State Bank of Galva are overpled by their 110% requirement. Okay. So, I just need a motion to approve the pledge report as presented. And that one will need a signature, too. All right. You can put it in your signature pile if you want. I'll just sign it. That one's easier. Well, um, I'll make a motion to accept the pledges. Is there a second? A second. Second. Any discussion? Um, all in favor say I. I. I. Motion carries.

Which was it? 13. I just said it, but

2026 13. Okay. And then the only other items we do not need to do the grant fund transfer um because the amounts that were over should have been taken out of the actual uh department budgets. So we made a transfer within the budgets not um that wasn't outside of their expenditures if that makes any sense to you guys. So, we don't need to make a transfer. It's just at a zero balance as of the end of the year. And you can see that on your treasur's cash report.

The only other items are we have three um easements for the department of trust lands and these are all for road projects that were previously previously done. um one in section 21 of 141101, the grazing association, and it was a realignment um on that state land road. Correct. Yeah. Where where's that at down south or? No, up north.

Up north on Okay. I looked at it project a while back. And then the other one, the surface le is Billy Richard. Um that is section 41 1391 100 construction project that's going on right now. Okay. That's right by his house. By

Jade's house. Oh, they gave me two copies of this here. two copies. And then let me just double check and make sure this isn't the same one. Okay. So, one of the easements was already on is what I had put on the agenda because that one was emailed to me. The other ones were mailed in the mail. So, it's only two easements that need approval for both for the tr department of trust lands.

Holy smokes. Notoriize. Okay. Do you want to look at them all? No. No. Me. So, Anna will have to come in and notoriize for you. Okay. So, we need a motion to accept them both at the same time. Yep. Okay. I'll make that motion.

Okay. I'll second it. All in favor say I. I. Motion carries. Okay. Yeah, that is it. Unless you guys have any questions that you wanted to go over with the reports that I gave you, but otherwise we can do that next month as well. Well, this multicolored page here.

Yeah, let's, you know, cuz we got five. I mean, Andrew has to be here cuz otherwise we're kind of done with everything, right? We don't have any more on the agenda. Nope. We got through it all. Okay. So, I got another one here. I think I thought I would, but maybe. Oh, I think that is it. Um, no, it's right here. No, I guess not. I thought And I gave Jared mine, so you Okay, I'll just go over this quick with you guys here. Okay, so these are all the county funds. Um, so every month I give you the county treasures report, the cash report that shows well the balance sheet along with Oh, that one this one here.

Yep. Okay. Um, so this is the same thing as that. I'm just breaking it down so that you're aware of, you know, where the funds are and what they can be used for. So the county general fund is in the gray. Um, that cash balance, this is as of the end of 2025. Okay,

so going into 2026. So budgeted, you can see on the bottom in the general fund next to the gray, we had budgeted $8.5 million for the county general. Um, so that left a reserve of $2 million, which was more than we anticipated because when we budget, we budgeted in June and July and so we don't know that, you know, the budgets aren't going to be totally spent at the end of the year. Yeah. Okay. So if budgets had been totally spent by the end of 2025, that reserve would have been 500,000, if that makes sense. And now it's two two million. 2 million is what's in reserve if everybody stays within their budgets this year?

Does it take? Yeah. Correct. So here's one of my questions. Does this money that's left over at the end of the year go into the get moved over or does it just stay in the general fund? It stays in the general fund. Okay. So this this here the green one on the bottom maintenance operating and maintenance does that ever grow? The operating and maintenance fund the only items the only thing that goes into that fund is interest earned on our bank accounts. So it's just and that was 67 670 there were 670 I saw that so that gets added to that

that doesn't go to the general fund unless we need it so that the operating and maintenance reserve the green one can be used to offset the expenditures of any other fund that the county has. So generally except road bridge because we it could be used. Well, it could be. That's true. If if road bridge had no money, it could be transferred there and it has been you know years and years ago when we didn't have those funds.

Um so the road and bridge funds are all the blue right there. So the road and bridge fund has about $10.5 million that is you know monies that are received on taxes and oil and gas etc etc. The federal restricted is on the bottom. So that's that 41.5 million. There is a little bit of that that's pilm that could be used for other purposes. It's not very much. is I mean we're at about 39 million in bank headones alone in that fund. Okay. The orange funds are all um they're called special funds. So they're county directed dollars to these different entities. So for the weed board, for the library, you guys can decide if you're going to allow them to levy up to their max amount that that they want to. Okay. So um for weed for instance, the weed board can only levy four mills.

State control. That's state control. They can only levy four mills. So the amount that they can bring in is like $90,000. Um so a lot of every year we budget an operating and maintenance reserve transfer into the wheat fund to cover their budget. Um, operating and maintenance can be used for um, you know, if we if you chose not to levy for any of these dollars, you could use operating and maintenance fund to, you know, budget for them. Our so low that right we we I Yeah, ours are very low. They are,

but those are special funds. So those are controlled by you guys. Um, so you can make the determination on those. Um they all well they some of them have their own board. Document preservation is money that the recorder rece or the clerk court receives on marriage licenses and things and so they use that they can only use that for purchasing appointment or things like that in their in their office. Okay. Um I'll just get down so I can do a quick the all in red those are trust funds. So, those are funds that the county holds for other entities. We have no control over um what they levy except for the fact that we have to make sure they're within their legal um levying authority. So, they turn in their budgets to us. We receive the tax dollars and we send them out to them every month. So, we don't, you know, we don't budget for them or anything. We just send them their money that they levy for. Okay. So, um, out of that, so that's the total of the $73 million that the county has just to make it.

Yeah. Well, that that that helps, too. Yeah. And that matches this over here. Yep. And balance sheets a little bit. The treasur's cash report and the month the monthly balance. No, it should be right. No, it's not. It's different. But that don't matter. Which one? This one here. Oh, it matches the treasures cash report cuz this was the end of the year. This is the one that it matches actually. Yeah, I'm just That was the end of the year. This is the end of February. There you go. Now it matches. Yep. Yep. Yes, it does. It better. It better. Yeah.

And then these other sheets that I gave you um is the revenues and the expenditures for the last 5 years. So 21 through 25. Since we just completed 25, I thought it'd be a good thing to pull out now. Yeah. So, if you look at the bottom line on each um

on the expenditures and on the revenues, this is the general fund only. So, for last year, uh we were about a million dollars over, a little over a million dollars over what we brought in in revenue. So, that's where we're at every year. So, that's why this balance gets eaten down and why I get concerned. So, just to keep an eye on that. Um, you know, you do have the operating and maintenance reserve and you do have revenues that come in, but as oil and gas revenues go down, that's going to be a bigger bigger problem. No, oil went up $10 just this week, right? But you never know. You never know how long it's going to stay.

So, for this revenue sheet, this shows you all the revenues that go into the county general fund for the last 5 years. So you can see um especially like um when I was showing you the EMS ones earlier, you can see a big um increase that we got in the last 3 years cuz for the two years before that we didn't receive anything

is the governmental reimbursements. So those are the amounts we get from Stark County, uh city of billing or city of Billings, city of Bellefield, uh city of cellart and city of Madora. So that's why, you know, that's half a million dollars a year of revenue that we didn't have previously. So I think that the ambulance pretty much takes care of itself.

Yeah, they they do good. So, but if you know as you go through those, if you have any questions on specific expenditures or specific revenues, there are all sorts of reports that I can pull for you guys whenever you need them. I can email them to you and provide that. Okay. Okay. Well, it's 11:01 or two. So, Pat and Pat and Andy, I guess we better start our thing on time. Our bid opening.

I'm going to have you open the bids since I'm move out of the way. Okay. I printed some sheets for the morning.

Thank you. Yeah, the state's attorney can always open bids, too, if you want. I trust you. Sure. Yeah. This would be the bid opening for the 2026 Tim Arbur's pit. So, on this one, it's a crushed in 60,000 yards of gravel. That's nice. You got to open it. Yeah. Don't steal it. That's my favorite one.

No, I wouldn't dare. Huh? I laugh about the state's attorney opening the bids because Jrovolt would never come to the meetings, but that's the only thing he would come is to open bids.

Yep. So, in this one, there was no addendums. Um, so Fisher, they have their bond and their contractor license. So the first bid would be Fisher sand and gravel and their total is $352,15040. So 352150.40 4 Z. So I think Wyrick just mailed theirs. So probably got more inside. Yeah. So they have their bid bond and they got their license. We'll open this one. Okay, this one's for wire reconstruction and they're at 359 7 I think it's 70 or 750 359750.

Yeah, that's what the M. Okay. So, this one, next one we're going to look at canopic pit management. And they have their license and their bid bond. So their bid is 377750. 0 3 377750 dropped off. We'll check if it's inside. What's inside? They may have couple envelopes, too. Contractor license.

So this is total total control inc has a contractor's license insurance trucking rates or is that just a contractor sheet? Okay, then that wasn't a bid for that. This must be for for us parade sheets is what it looks like. But I didn't know cuz it came in sealed bid. That is not Is that what Bronco brought? It might be the same thing too. Just check and see. Okay, we'll check it. This may also be same thing.

But it says it enclosed, so I didn't know if it was this. Yeah. Yep. Okay, this says, "Thank you for the opportunity to submit our annual rate sheets for 2026 construction." And then it has a separate envelope probably contractor rate sheets. It says, "Yeah, and that doesn't need to be sealed." So that's fine. So it looks like that's where we put that out every January.

Contractors determine. So that was the three bids and I think was it Fisher? I don't know what Fisher had the lowest. Okay. 352, 359, and 377. Yeah. So you had three pretty good bids there. Um um I guess what I'd like to do is take them back and review the numbers. Um a lot of times uh you know if we're you know Fiser they've done a lot of crushing there reputable contractor. Um you're fine reviewing the numbers and worrying upon contingency of the numbers checking out and then my Pat's review. Um that's what we've done a lot of times.

Mhm. And then what we would do is follow it up with a notice of award. So I would then send notice of award along with the bid tabs. We can email the Marsha and then if you just want to go in and sign them and then we'll get them to back to the contractor to start preparing the contracts for the project. So So usually what we've done is um awarding the bid contingent upon the mathematics being approved by KG. upon the the review and require.

Okay, I'll make that motion. Is there a second? I second. And that goes to Fiser. Any other discussion? All in favor say I. I. I. Motion carries. Thank you guys. Um, I guess I didn't know if you wanted to just update on any of the other projects really or or not here. But I think you handed in a paper, didn't you? Yeah, I did. And

I know Pat said he went over the HIPP stuff, so that got bid and you guys approved that um at the DOT. Oh, there's a chip seal. Yeah, there's really not not a lot of updates.

Anyway, so we did submit our environmental document to the Forest Service on 15th Street to have them start reviewing it. Now, let's see how long that takes them to look at that. Okay. Yeah. Otherwise, yeah, we'll get the bids and we'll get them back. So, then I'll reach out to Fisher to kind of see when they want to start.

Mhm. Hopefully sooner than later. I just would like to get that ball rolling there so that we have material for this this summer even, you know. Yeah. Hopefully it's a nice early spring project. I'll make sure to leave that here. If you guys got any questions for me here, anything? No, I think we're good. Hopefully, you're turning in something at the uh March 20th, right? Right.

Yeah. Well, we're looking at that hard. Okay. I think we're good then. Yep. Thank you. Yep. Okay. Well, thank you very much. Neil, is he coming? Neil is, but he may be sitting outside. Sorry. And I just wanted you guys to know because you don't usually look at the revenues until the next meeting minutes um that Pat did turn in a check for $8,99.96.

Sounds good. Thank you. Check and see if he's hear anything on the school board want to build a new school or anything? Nothing. I just heard a little blurp this week, but they're uh they're filling up over there. The way I understand. Well, they need a school. They needed a school when I left there.

What are you talking about? Bel school. Oh, the speestus and all that stuff. I mean, that school was just I mean, well, I think it would have worked out, but they kind of got in with saltart. There was kind of some friction, you know, but you know, hopefully we can they can work it out. Yeah, it's going to take ever get those modular classrooms like each got like a couple of them during the school. Is there one back behind back there? There might be one or two. I don't remember.

I know it was full when our kids went over there. You bring in more information for us. I'll bring you another boss bill. Oh, office supplies cuz I think we're waiting or we're going to call it. Well, we're going to wait for Bill

cuz that's the only thing left going. So, we may as well signing our start signing our stuff, I guess. Let me get my mess picked up here. This is one additional one that was turned in.

It needs to be additional. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. He was in here the other day and Anna reminded him, so I don't know if he just had something come up, but he didn't call. So,

he shows up. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's how it is. I'll call you guys in if he shows up. Oh, there was one thing I was going to show. Like I just looked at Oh, like this is what intermedia for the Yeah. Okay. So, it's like super easy. Just copy paste.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was just going to show you this like on the county website for the agendas like this is just a screenshot of what we use for the agenda postings and so we put the name of the meeting here and then right underneath um and then we uploaded the agendas which is just adding a file but if we wanted to have the link to the video on YouTube then it's just copy pasting right here and then it's or not the video but the recording the minutes yeah the minutes are still the same thing. You just upload the agenda and then farther down on the page it says upload minutes and then you just hit button. So it's it's a very doable thing. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. And you want copies of those ements too, right? Um the easements I think get recorded. Then we get the copies of them. I'm pretty sure. Okay. Yeah. I hear her. I don't remember him being this high uh with EMS $30,000 of collections.

Well, sometimes it depends on when they send them out because Metro Billing does the billing for us for those cuz it's confidential information. So, we don't get all that. And I'm very grateful that we don't have to do the billing for those guys. Mhm. Actually, it's DCI now that does collections for them, but and they don't pursue them. No. No. They'll send another letter and then that's it pretty much. Well, I see that there's one on here that was return check NSF, too. Yep. That happens a lot.

I had uh it was back in January where end of December I had settled a case and we knew that there was an ambulance bill. It was out of Bismar but uh it had been 2 and a half plus years or something and we still had the ambulance bill. I sent them a letter initially saying we'll pay it once we settle it. Um they hadn't heard anything. Well, then I contacted them. They said, "Oh, no. That went to collections." I said, "Well, we have the money now. We'll pay it." Um, you know, we'll pay cuz DCI takes a percentage, you know, like 40% if they don't have a judgment. Anyways, needless to say, she called me back within an hour and they hadn't done anything on it in two years. So, was still the amount that was on the invoice and dated. So, Yep. And so for somebody if they didn't pay the medical bill, like that type of a medical bill, does that because I I know there's some medical that can't go on credit reports, but would an ambulance bill, would that go on a credit report or is that exempt, too?

Um, it very well could. I suppose if there's a judgment maybe. Yeah, hospital leans are don't believe we just look at these calls. Yeah, we look at those. He did initial the revenues though, right? Well, you know, he has to initial sign. Okay. Y but we don't initial these. They're just

Okay. You're way ahead of me. What the heck? What are you doing? Or what am I doing? Holy smokes. It's the first time this room's been empty before the actual end of a meeting in a long time.

Mhm. Well, we'll give them until 11:30 and then we're just going to adjourn then. Oh. Del County Historical. They're having their annual meeting here, right? In a week or something, I see.

I think so. Yeah. I keep expecting them to say we need to be on the agenda to fix the old courthouse, but I'm hoping that doesn't come up for a long time. Yeah, we fixed a couple things since I've been here. The roof, you know, something that had to be fixed, but

yeah, but it sounds like the basement has been full of water and stuff like that. So, get you guys a copy of the M. There's the motions from today. This one is completely done. Do I have to sign the minutes every month?

So, we haven't had that. Um, we've kind of done a batch of them at a certain point. Should we assign all of them? Y cuz then we upload them all at the same time to the Arca Search like the deal. But yeah, if you want to do it every month, we can. Otherwise, we can do them all at once. See, I'm I'm on the Badlands human services. I seen that there and I sign there and I signed for the zoning and so then they always give it to you every month. But

yeah, ours often something gets changed or we, you know, correct something. So, I hate to bring nice stuff to have them signed, but now if I sign here, do I have to sign this thing? No. Mhm. Not for that one. No. Okay. So, those I want to look at these two. Three. Let that there. We're done too, right? No, you have to initialize, don't you? No, he doesn't have to initial. He just signs them back or that I sign. Did you? That was the first ones that I worked on cuz she gave them to me from over there.

And then we're going to keep these in here cuz Steve had said he would come in sometime and and look through them and Okay. Signed. So, we're good here. Yeah.

You know, as far as what Bill wanted to bring up, I don't know if it was anything formal. it was more of a he wanted something done about um the veterans memorial for the 250th. So whether it's putting something on Facebook for it or on our website, which I don't have a problem doing, and I had asked them to work with um the veteran service officer and the American Legion um if they wanted to do something in particular, but we can we could put up on our uh Facebook page or the website something showing all the names that are on it. um and a picture, you know, if you wanted they wanted a separate page on the website. So, and that's not I mean that's something Stacy and I can do at any time. Well, I think that would be appropriate to do that for like the July meeting or something or you know what I mean and it would be recognizing them folks those

and I told them you know again at you know maybe during Veterans Day or during Memorial Day or you know at some point Memorial Day would probably be the best. Um yep that might be better than the fourth. Yeah. Okay. So, I'll work with Stacy and we can get something together and then present it to you guys for these got to be notoriized. Yep. But these don't. Nope. I think we'll just adjourn then. Okay. We'll get a motion to adjourn the uh meeting today. So move second meeting adjourned.

And I gave you the minute or the motions before that, but That's okay. Hey, Anna. I don't make copies of all these for you. He's getting to them.