Transportation Commission - Regular Meeting

Was no audio. Ah, okay. Alright. So roll call to repeat. Commissioner Kaileman?

Here.

Commissioner Rupun? Okay. Commissioner Ting? Present. Commissioner Welsher? Here. Commissioner Williams? Here. Commissioner McGill? Here. It's not on here. Okay. Did I get everybody? Yes. Okay. Good. So we definitely have a quorum and ready to move. And this would be a good time. We have for the first time, deputy mayor Dave Hamilton with us, and I'm gonna put you on the spot and have you give a quick rundown of yourself, and then we'll go around the room and introduce ourselves. So go ahead.

Hello, everybody. Nice to be here with you. It's my first meeting, as you all know. I've been on the council for a little over two years. I was previously a liaison to the parks board, and I got an upgrade and moved over here to transportation. I'm not sure you'll consider it an upgrade, but hopefully. So I've been in Bellevue for fifty years. Got six kids. They all grew up basically here. Spent my career in transportation, and I retired from that at the '23 and started this in '24. I'm really excited to spend Thursdays once a month with all of you and seeing you around here and there and look forward to the work and getting to know y'all.

And what kind of transportation?

I was in medical logistics.

Medical logistics. Of patients or supplies?

Supplies. Sometimes parts of patients. But

Parts of patients.

Generally, supplies. But it could have been anything. It depended on the client. So organizations like Kaiser Permanente and UW Medical.

Okay.

Okay. Alright. Yeah. Excellent. Alright. Well, nice to meet you. Thank

you. Same to you.

And how about we can we'll start going around the room. You wanna go next?

Oh, I'm sorry. Well, this is just for

Just a minute introduction, so David. Yes.

Yeah. So I'm Anthony Welch. I've been on the commission since, I think, it was September or August was my first meeting. And I've lived in Bellevue since 1998 and grew up in West Seattle and involved have done a plethora of sort of foreign policy related government investment infrastructure projects overseas, over the last two decades, and then also am active in sort of Seattle area real estate.

Excellent. Questioner Ting?

Hi. My name is Albert Ting. I was born in Seattle. I lived in Bellevue the majority of my life. I've been on the commission for about seven years now, so it's been quite a while. And I find transportation to be one of the key issues that impact the residents of Bellevue. So I've been very happy to serve on the commission, and I look forward to working with you.

Hi, Dave. I'm Drew McGill. I've been on the commission since 2023. Retired from Boeing a few years ago. Yeah. It's also a transportation, I guess. Right? So it's this is a great commission. I'm really glad to be a part of it. Glad that you're a part of it too. Yep.

Yeah. Nice to meet you. I'm Karen. Retired also. Has spent my career doing engineering technology type roles, some with transportation, some with design, depending on on the role. I've been in Bellevue twenty four years or so, and I've been on the commission maybe about six or so. Yeah. Nice to meet you.

And I'm Kaye I'm Kaye Williams. I've been on the commission for a little over six months, middle of the year last year. I've lived in Bellevue for about forty years. Well, not always in Bellevue, but on the East Side, various places. I live in Lakemont now, so represent that community in a sense. I worked for Microsoft for many years and really enjoy interesting technical, complex problem solving, and there's a lot of that in this commission.

Hi. Nice to meet you, Susanna Keilman. I am a Bellevue resident for about three years now and going into my second year with the Transportation Commission. My only experience working with transportation is, during my time as medic in the air force and similar to what you're doing, medical logistics, but starting off with no roads, building roads with the army corps of engineers. And then in the civilian world, I do r and d for biotech. Nice to meet you.

I'm always impressed when I hear people go around the room and we just hear what expertise and experience we have in here. So it's very, very cool. So alright. Let's move on to the approval of agenda. It's in front of everybody. Do I have a motion to approve the agenda for tonight?

So moved.

Is there a second? I'll second. Is there any amendment suggestion? K. Approved as is. Let's move on to oral and written communications. Kevin has forwarded to us all of the written communication as he always does up until right before the meeting. Oral communication tonight, we have the usual. People have three minutes to speak. Kevin will keep track of the time. We have both. We might have some people online. I think I'm sure we have a few people here in the room. We'll try to go in the order of when the people had signed up. So with that said, Kevin, could you please call on the folks in the order, please?

We have two people signed up so far. Steve Fantel is remote, and Alex Zimmerman is present. Steve, I see that you're in. I will unmute you, and you will have three minutes. Okay. Go ahead.

Welcome, Steve.

Hi. Thank you, and good evening. I'm Steve Faddle, a thirty plus year Bellevue resident and Bellevue bicyclist. When I volunteered with the city of Bellevue transportation planning group in 2019, I was tasked with putting together a list of low cost, high impact, rapid implementation, bike safety improvement projects. Now fast forward seven years, while a few of these items have been addressed, the majority remain only as wishes despite their alignment with established safety initiatives like Vision Zero and safe routes to school.

When I have engaged staff directly on projects that I have a vested interest in, they've generally shown a lack of interest or have referenced large capital projects to be executed many years from now. They also cite the lack of a small discretionary budget pool for just these types of low cost, high impact, rapid rapid implementation projects. It's unacceptable if these types of projects can only be implemented as the result of a serious injury, fatality, or a subsequent lawsuit. The handouts that, Kevin provided for you describe three such projects that I have personally taken the time to document. Each involves locations where bike safety issues exist, each requires only simple pavement markings or signage to achieve their goal, and each requires minimal planning and resource expenditures to complete.

I realize that this commission cannot direct budget decisions within the transportation department or in the city as a whole, but I hope that by raising this issue, the commissioners can provide feedback to the council and staff of the need to provide a means to address these small yet important projects in a timely manner and for safety's sake. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Thank you very much. Okay. Next one.

Next is Alex.

Here. Welcome.

My name, Alec. My name Alec Zimmerman, and I am I live in Bellevue for forty years. And I'm president of Stand Up America almost for twenty years. Yeah. And I come to you because I think in what is you doing is me is qualifying like dirty Nazi bastard. And I explained to you why. First, you never show people faces. This is absolutely a deotic situation because I speak every week seven, ten times. And everybody, when I speak from the comedy over at all, they show faces. The only one who don't show faces.

This is very interesting because new deputy mayor Hamilton approves this. So he looked to me like a dirty Nazi bastard because when you don't show faces, it's supposed to be motivation. Why? What is your motivation? Because you are Nazi. Oh, bastards. Second, twelve year ago, consul stopping us first amendment freedom of speech. Is this all incomparable? Only because but Alex Zimmerman come and speak for thirty years, so they tired from me. Yeah.

Yeah. I understand. So right now, it's what they did to eliminate the 10 people. Guys, my question very simple. When I only one bad man for forty year in Bellevue, why 150,000 idiot cannot speak? Can you explain to me? Tori Minitin 10 is a pure violation of constitution, First Amendment, freedom of speech. Why you did this? Yeah. Yeah. You see? Deputy murderer, is she very quiet? Why? Why you did this like a Nazi bastard? It's number two.

Number three, guys. We have a deputy murderer, Mohammed, but is Iranian Muslim, anti Semite, and Bandita terrorist. So last week, week ago, yeah, you you counseling people talking about human right for Iranian. I understand human right for what Iranian. I understand this. What is I don't have my human right? Like a Jew, like support Israel, and like support Trump. Why you give me trespasses? Why you prosecute me seven times? For two year, you give me 20 traffic ticket.

What is going on? Where is my human right? Look him, deputy mayor Hamilton. Very quiet. Why he so very quiet? Are he a freaking Nazi? Are he a fascist? Or he's a idiot? Why is he quiet? Everything what is I talking is all we were Trump. We were new America. We were revolutions. And pour in the dewater. Thank you very much.

Okay. Thank you. Kevin, do we have anybody else that are signed up either virtually or else in the house?

Signed up. There are people in the house, and there's people in the audience that may wanna speak.

Is there anybody here who would like a time to speak?

Yes. But it only per it's pertaining to the Sound Transit train.

Well, come on up. If it's transportation related, we'll come on up and please state your name, and we'll get you in the record. And we'll start the clock.

John Tuscornia. I know some people here, some from the past. The question is what we're here today is to discuss the sound from the sound transit train when it goes over the East Channel Bridge about what's going on to mitigate the low rumbling sound. And that's the, question I'd like your help with and your suggestions on how we can solve that. And, also, the train's been running in the middle of night. It was running at three in the morning last night, which is not really good for the neighbors. So I just wanna put those out for future discussions during today's meeting. Thank you very much.

Okay. Thank you. Is there anybody else in the audience or online who would like to speak tonight? Nope. And no hands raised? Okay. Alright. Thank you all. Moving on now to communications from city council boards and commissions. So first, again, we'll we'll welcome to Dave. Did you have a a small presentation or discussion we'd go through? Alright. Go for it.

Thank you. I know you're gonna be looking at your bylaws, later tonight and just might wanna draw your attention at some point to the communications section and section a communications with counsel. So something to take a look at it at some point. So just throwing that out there since you're thinking about it. A few update items for you.

We had the council retreat at the February, which we do annually. So we took a look at the year ahead, and we reviewed our council vision, looked at the Grand Connection, vision, and we were lucky to have, director Singulakis and, others from transportation join us at the retreat, which is somewhat unusual, but was, of course, welcome. So just kind of an indication that this is gonna be a big year for transportation in the city. So flag that for you. We opened Fire Station 10 over on a hundred and twelfth and twelfth, which was really a really good event and tremendous work done by the city and building and standing it up.

The It's Your City communication is out. It's available online. I think everybody gets it in the mail as well. So just drawing your attention to that. The Sound Transit updates are coming to council next week.

So, you know, I always encourage you to, you know, watch the council meetings or join us or provide any feedback that you might have, but just flagging that as well. And then I think everyone is well aware that on the twenty eighth, the, Cross Lake connection opens up. So, lots of things going on around the city, to celebrate that. So it should be interesting and fun and maybe a better option for you, Kevin, when the weather's not great to get back and forth. Pretty convenient.

Just wanted to take maybe a couple extra minutes tonight to go over some of this the stuff that came out of the council retreat, and we really focused on boards and commissions this year. It's been kind of building, but you'll find that the council's gonna continue to focus on that and work on it and maybe standardize some of the processes for how we interact and for how we, bring on new board and commission members. So at least my process and it's pretty well open to council members to conduct it in a way that they prefer, but my process is gonna be really collaborative. And this does go on. There's a number of ways to do it, and I think they're all, good ways.

But mine is gonna include everybody on the commission in some role or another. And then as we kinda move up the process and and look at the list, it 'll certainly involve the chair and vice chair in the interviews as well. But really looking to kinda standardize it and make sure that everyone who's interested has a chance to express that interest and be involved going forward. So just wanna throw that out to you. And then too, just to kinda mention, and some of this was new to some of the council members at the retreat, so I thought it might be worth mentioning a few of the things, in council rules as it relates to boards and commissions.

And, I think right at the beginning, looking at the purpose of the boards and commissions is to advise the council, prepare issues for council's review, consideration, and final decision, and provide representation of a cross section of the public when advising council so that council may entertain a full range of public perspective in making their decisions. I'm gonna put some of this together just in a memo. It's in the, council guidebook, so it it's available to everyone. But I just wanted to mention a few things tonight. So that's just kind of the basic part of it.

My role here is to be a conduit for communication between the commission and the council, provide guidance, to the commission, within the direction of the council, provide the commission with a big picture, including issues where there's likely controversy or where members need awareness. The number of other things too I won't touch on, obviously, I don't vote. You know, I'm not a member of the commission. And I'll be here likely at every meeting, but the council rule is to attend at least quarterly. So you may find that there are some meetings where I may come in and give an update, and that'll be the end of it.

Some meetings where where I may not be here, but always available whenever needed. And then as far as it relates to kinda expectations of the commission, I just think a few things to kinda think about. And I I know that you're aware of these, but it just seemed like coming out of the retreat and this being my first meeting, it was worth mentioning a few. But, obviously, sifting through policy issues to narrow the decision points for council, provide a synopsis of the cross section of the public's perspective. You you know, obviously, you gained that in some of the amazing perspective you got here tonight, some of the less amazing perspective you got here.

Being out in the community, lots of opportunities to kinda get that information, synthesize it, give it to counsel, communicate it to counsel. The bylaws call for quarterly, something to think about. I can assure you that everything that comes from all the boards and commissions, counsel looks at very carefully, weights it very heavily, very interested in it. So it's not just a report that comes across our desks, but it's something that we really look closely at. And you've great stat we were really lucky in the city to have great staff, and the boards and commissions have a lot of experience with our top staff.

But, you know, their some of their main goals, main roles are preparing meeting agendas, annotated agendas, meeting minutes, and ford inform board and commission members regarding the issues, provide technical information, provide information and tools to the border or commission in this case so that members can do their jobs effectively, have a clarity of role, including a clear understanding that the staff member works for the city manager or designee and does not take direction from the board or commission. And, the staff, of course, understands that the the commission may come to a recommendation that does not, reflect that of the staff member. So those are a few things. I think, again, these are things we wanna take a look at, maybe make some changes to. But for now, these are the kind of our main guiding principles in working with boards and commissions, and I I'll provide, a little more detailed information going forward.

So that is pretty much my report. I'm happy to answer any questions if anybody has them.

Go ahead.

For the gentleman that showed up today and made a comment on sound transit, what is the best practice to ensure that feedback gets back to the right people and so that he can follow-up specifically to ensure that it's heard and to see what actions are taken?

Mhmm. Kevin is the the best the best one to answer that question, and most of that kind of information and and those kinds of requests would flow through the staff.

Thank you, deputy mayor. You're you're absolutely correct. And I would just also remind that this commission that, you have no role with respect to transit agencies or any other, other governmental agency. Our our role is to advise the the city council. Staff has taken note of the issue that was brought forward. And if if you know, since Sound Transit is providing a briefing to the council, that may be an opportunity there to to further, flesh that out. But I I will move that comment to the appropriate staff in the transportation department.

K. Next week The council meeting might be just the perfect time to, have comments like that, presented. So we'll have, you know, the our council meetings start off just the same way, basically. So there's the public comment period, and that that would be a really good thing for anyone to bring to the council meeting.

Other questions? Go ahead.

One thing that I think is great is when we have new liaisons come over to the different commissions and boards, that we have a cross pollination of ideas and best practices. So to the extent that you've seen things work really well in your old commission on parks, I would appreciate it if you were able to let us know, give us ideas, those sort of things. Because I think being able to develop not only a standardized practice among the commissioners is good, but also having a sharing of ideas in terms of what are the best practices and how we should run our commission. I think one of the interesting items, for example, is how do we act upon feedback from the public? What is the appropriate venue for that?

What is the most effective way to stay within our lane, yet still be the most effective in representing the public's opinion.

Mhmm. Yeah. I mean, it's, I think, always good to have just a general knowledge of kind of where the public is on various issues. I think communicating to counsel regularly is a really helpful way to do that. And then I think too relying on staff to help make those, connections is the good way to go.

I think really, being prepared for the meetings, attending the meetings, just really being on top of, what's coming to you in your council meetings, that, of course, is the best place to start. Make sure you're on it. And then I think, generally, at least the practice on the parks board and really the practice of the council is to rely on our staff for a lot of these follow ups, though. You all have email addresses at the city, and, yeah, I'm sure you get emails from time to time from community members. And that also too is information that you can help kinda channel to the right place.

Kevin is the one who can really answer those questions kind of in the moment. I have a lot of those questions all the time. I'm actually was just emailing out in the lobby. It's like I got an email. I'm like, alright. Who do I send this to? I emailed someone to find out who I send it to. So it can be a little bit tricky, and it kinda depends on the situation. But a good basic knowledge and funneling through staff, I think, is is a great way to go about it.

Other questions? Go ahead.

Yeah. I love the idea about maybe more of a maybe it's formal. Maybe it's less formal quarterly communication between the council and the transportation commission. Sometimes we've gotten pulled in, but usually it's because we're presenting something and we didn't have that sort of regular communication. I think that would be really helpful, and I'm looking forward to any ideas you have on that based on your experience.

Yeah.

Yeah. And it is the practice I mean, all the boards and commissions have the same bylaws. I think that's part of the process that's going on tonight to make sure they're all the same. Parks sends a quarterly communications to council. It comes in our meeting packet, so we see it there.

And I think that's something too that Kevin could help facilitate. Parks' board, staff liaison prepares that communication, works with the chair and vice chair to fine tune it, but provides just a little bit of an update about what's occurred in the previous quarter. And I think it's really helpful too because, you know, we all get busy, and sometimes I'll I'll learn a lot more about transportation by being here, but I'm not gonna learn as much about parks because I'm not there. So to have this regular communication keeps the information current and keeps us all on the same page. So I I think it's really helpful.

And council members, we read all this stuff. I mean, we talk about it, and so it it really is helpful. It's it's worth the effort because we will pay attention to it.

Okay. Go ahead.

Just to let you know and to follow-up on that, the the the city clerk's office is working on a standardization, a template for communications to boards and commissions. So communications from the boards and commissions to the council so that we're all providing sort of the same level of of information in a timely manner for council.

Okay. Excellent. Yeah. At the beginning of when you were up tonight, you'd mentioned referred to the bylaws and specifically communication between the council and commissions. Is there anything in particular you wanted to highlight or just in general pay attention to that section of the bylaws?

I think it's just a really good practice, and I think boards and commissions have just kept for whatever reason, it's a practice that just hasn't been kept up with, and it's one that I've found was really, helpful at Parks. And, two, I think, you know, it really kinda honors the work that you all do, and I think that's one of the most important parts of it. So just something that, you know, for whatever reason, just hadn't been kept up with. And I I think it's really helpful for a lot of reasons.

Okay. Perfect. Any other questions, thoughts? No? Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you for your time. Alright. Do we have any reports from any of the commissioners? I've got one. The and I'm not what's the right name? Happy hour reception of all the commission's awards night recognition event. There you go. If my memory is correct, last year was the first time that it had happened since the pandemic. And I went last year, and it was a really good event too because I know we always talk about other commissions and that it's a good event, casual, just to learn a little bit more about what's happening in other commissions and across the council, kind of an informal hour or two spent with people. People. So if you can go, I think it's it's worth the time. So okay. Staff reports. Kevin.

K. That was going to be one of my staff reports.

Stole your thunder.

So I I have a couple others. One is that you will probably notice that you received a complete PDF packet for of your agenda. So it was all in in one document that you could scroll through. So we in response to a request, we we did that. So let me know how that works out for you. If you if you like that, we will continue to do that as a regular deliverable to you on agenda packet time.

Kevin, quick sorry. I know I I requested it. Thank you very much, but I missed where it was. Was it

Oh, I sent it as an attachment to the email message that I sent you.

K.

And you have it in your packet or on your desk as well. Okay.

Thank you.

Alright.

So it's coming up to commission election time. And what what we typically do is accept nominations in the April, May time frame and and make a selection in June so that person will serve the rest of 2026 through June 2027. So, again, it's it's about that time, so be thinking about who you would like to have serve as chair and vice chair going forward. I'll accept formal nominations at the May meeting, and then we'll we'll vote in June. K?

The one item of substance in your packet is about the 2026 comprehensive plan amendments. On November 25, the council unanimously approved two of your recommendations. Recommendations. One was for the transportation facilities plan, and one was for the mobility implementation plan. As a result of the council adoption of those two plans, there is some some minor inconsistencies between those plans and the comprehensive plan.

And therefore, on Tuesday night, council voted unanimously to direct staff and the commissions to work to reconcile those those inconsistencies. Couple of the inconsistencies are in the transportation element with respect to the transportation facilities plan. Remember, it went from a twelve year to a twenty year plan. The comp plan says twelve years, so we have to change that to twenty years. Okay?

And in the mobility implementation plan, it incorporated all the components of the pedestrian and bicycle transportation plan. So where the comprehensive plan refers to the pet bike plan, it will now refer to the mobility implementation plan. K? So there's one policy with respect to that and several locations within the narrative of the transportation element that, some some language adjustments will need to be made. Those adjustments I showed you in your packet, and they're on your desk right now, we don't need to discuss them tonight if you unless you have any questions, but we'll I'll bring them back to you in May for approval and a transmittal to the planning commission.

And, of course, the planning commission is the ultimate deliverable of comprehensive plan amendments to the council. So you're the first touch on those transportation policies, and we'll discuss those in May.

Yeah. If I could go back one topic on the elections. For because I'm gonna be missing the May meeting, can I send an email to you beforehand with respect, or does it have to wait until the May time frame?

You have already submitted

That's why I didn't know if it was legitimate, though, if it was acceptable.

Okay. Consider consider your nomination on the record.

Okay. Alright. That's what I wanted to make sure. Okay. Perfect. Alright.

Yeah. Just a question, generally, Kevin, on the comp plan. And we've had this, kind of discussion discussion before. But where the comp plan refers to the MIP, that gives the flexibility to change the MIP. The comp plan is typically changed no more than once per year. Right? But the MIP could be changed at any time. Right? So I'm trying to understand how and I know that's been historically there. I'm just trying to maybe you could reiterate how that works.

So if we change the MIP, it has to go to the council for approval. Right? But does it does it bypass the planning commission in that scenario? Okay.

Yes. The only time well, for for amendments to the mobility implementation plan, that they would be directed to you to do that work from and then your report your deliverable would be directly back to the council. The it's it's not a planning commission issue. To the extent that any policy issues emerge from working with the MIP, then that would go to the planning commission as a as a as the the the the what's the right word? Conduit.

The conduit from from the transportation commission to the council for comprehensive plan amendments. But I I you know, the the comp plan is is generic enough in its referral to the MIP that if you amend portions of the MIP, it wouldn't necessarily require an amendment to the comprehensive plan.

And just to follow-up on that, the revision to the MIP, can that be instigated by the commission, or does that have to come from the council?

It would be directed to you as part of your work program from the council. So we would work together to identify the issues with the MIP that we wanted to address. Staff and the commission would bring those to the council for their concurrence to direct the commission to do that work.

Thanks for the clarification.

Go ahead. Just a question on terminology. So when we talk about policy so, clearly, the the comp plan contains the policies. Do each of the supporting documents contain policies, or do they follow a different terminology?

In the past, the the, like, the the pedestrian bicycle transportation plan, for instance, had policies within it. Since the pedestrian bicycle transportation plan is gone now, there those policies are gone with it. The the the trajectory of of these these mobility these modal plans is to not have policies within them. It's to it's really for implementation of ex of policy in the comprehensive plan that these documents are intended to do. So there was an intention way back when to call it the mobility implementation plan because it is the in is the

It's a manifestation of policy.

It's the tool that takes you from policy to paint on the ground or concrete on the ground. It tells you, where the the performance targets are not meeting where the performance is not meeting the targets and then project concepts to address those issues.

Is that just a general best practice slash guideline, or is that actually the way that we're supposed to be across all commissions and boards thinking about the definition of policy? I would say that that's the

that that is the best practice Okay. To not have policy within the mo the modal plans.

Okay. So that's it for staff reports. Moving on to item number six, public hearing. We don't have one tonight, so that's a quick topic. And moving on to into our study session. So we do have the latest agenda maybe that we've ever had, at least in my time here at least, and it is going through the 2026, bylaws amendments. We did review these in our last meeting, and Heather is here again tonight. She's the assistant, city attorney, and she will be seeking approval. So we are looking for an action here tonight on the required amendments for the transportation bylaws. So welcome, Heather.

Turn the mic on this time. Good evening, chair Stash, deputy chair and commissioners. So as mentioned, I am here to follow-up on my presentation of the amendments to the bylaws that we presented at the last meeting. There are three substantive changes. The first is a change to the term limits.

So commissioners and board members would be limited to two terms. And after that, we'd have to have a two year period before serving on any other board or commission. The second change is an extension of the period of exclusion from sixty days to a hundred and eighty days, and then there are also substantive clarifications of the appeal process that would come with a period of exclusion. So as mentioned, I presented these in the last meeting. And in accordance with the bylaws, I am here to present them for your final vote and action at your meeting.

Do we have any questions from anybody? Pretty straightforward from the last meeting. Any questions in the in the room? Alright. Sounds like we've got a motion on the table for approval. I'll make a motion to approve. Is there a second?

Seconded.

Yes, sir. Any disagreement? K. Passes unanimously. Could not have been easier. Thank you for all your work on it. Amazingly, that gets us through our study session for tonight. Study sessions. Approval of minutes. I can't believe we're here. This is the shortest meeting ever. Do I have a motion to approve the minutes from the last the February 12 meeting?

I move to approve the minutes from the February 12 meeting.

I'll second.

Is there any disagreement? Wow. It's almost beer time. Okay. Passes unanimously. Okay. Unfinished business. As far as I know, there isn't any. Anybody else have any? Any new business? No. Wow. Alright. Commission calendar. Kevin, you're up.

The calendar takes a month off in April. We come back in in May for a few agenda items. One is the the the comprehensive plan amendments. The other is nominations for chair and vice chair. And I I forget what my other ones are because I lost my page. So that one so that one, Mike. Oh oh, Christy. Christy's coming back with a public hearing and seeking your direction on the transportation improvement program.

Got it.

How could I forget?

K. Alright. Anybody have anything to add to the calendar? Strangers? Okay. Are there any objections to adjourning this meeting? Wow. We are adjourned. Unbelievable.