Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

members are here. Here Travis, would you like to let that guy Oh, it's open. Okay. Normally it's closed.

Hello Tony. I have four o'clock. So, we will call this meeting of the plan commission for December 9, 2025 to order and let the minutes show the commission members McFaden and Burton are absent. First item of business is the approval of our minutes from our November 12th meeting. Make a motion to approve the minutes as printed. I have a motion. Second.

And I have a second. Any questions or concerns? Hearing none. All in favor of the motion say I. I. Those opposed? No. Motion passes. First item of business is a public hearing for Adam Shastine to do a minor subdivision 628 I Street into two parcels for the purpose of building two new homes. It's currently zoned R3 and each parcel will have 60 6,750 square feet. Travis.

Yeah. Um, I'm Travis Norman representing Adam Chastain. Uh, Adam's looking to develop a lot there in the northeast corner of I Street and 7th Street. He has two existing lots there uh in an addition to the city of Beford. He's wanting to take those two lots that now run east west and split them to go north south off of Seventh Street and do basically two lots. We have two existing. We're just going to two lots just orient a different direction. And both of those lots will be 75 ft wide on Seventh Street by 90 feet on High Street and 90T on the alley in the back. Okay. This being a public hearing, is there anyone here who wishes to speak for or against this? Um I think you sent letters to two adjoining property owners, the Kelly's and Adops. Have you heard anything from them? I did not did not hear anything from them. So, u we're ready for a motion on what we want to do with this. I make a motion that we approve. Make a motion for the approval.

I'll second. I have a second. Any questions or concerns? Hearing none. All in favor of the motion say I. I. Those opposed? No. The motion passes. Now, does this go to city council

Board of Works? Board of Works goes to the board of works. All right. So, the second item on our agenda is a public hearing for it's always something Jody Cobb to reconfigure L and D lots and numbers there into a minor subdivision. Um, this is located. Do I have a location on that? Am I missing it?

It's 28 28. Lot A will have will be 6,500 square ft. Lot two A will be 6,500. Lot 2B will be 5590. It's uh currently zoned as PR with a minimum So talk to us about that one, Travis.

Yes, I'd like for you to.

Yeah. So I'm representing It's always something. So they've got three tracks. So originally there was a lot 12 in this subdivision to to the city of Beford. It was just a 43x 43 foot track and that was kind of up there where the alley is on the northeast corner of this what you're looking at there on the drawings. And then he had two lots that were lots 10 and 11 in the existing subdivision that bordered along 23rd and P Street that ran east west. So, what he's looking to do is split these into three tracks, which he already has three tracks, but he's want to go to three tracks, but make the smaller track is 43x 43 a buildable track where he can use it. And like he said, we did get a variance on the lot 2B uh instead of need to be 6,000 square feet. It is at 5,500, but we did get a variance to do that.

So, this is at the corner of 23rd and P. Correct. Correct. Okay. I finally found it. All right. being a public hearing. Is there anyone here who wishes to speak for or against this? All right. Uh let's see who you sent letters to. Just one. Just one. Did you hear anything? I did not. Did not hear anything. All right. What do you want to do with item number two? And this was the uh again, was this the public hearing? Yeah, this is a public hearing. Uh, I'll make a motion to approve. All right, I have a motion.

I'll second. And we have a second. Any discussion, concerns? Hearing? None. All in favor of the motion say I. I. Those opposed, no. Motion passes. This go to the board of works also. Yes.

All right. The third one uh is a a public hearing for James Mcomes. is requesting a minor subdivision at 2800 2801 North South Pore Farm Road in two parcels. One parcel will be 1.812 acres. The other will be 656 acres or 26,000 square ft. The property now is zoned R1. Anyone? Oh, yes. Well, I'm I'm I'm James Mcomes. I'll just in case. I'm sorry. I am James M. Okay. Thank you, sir. I just I came up here just in case you had any questions. Okay. You want to tell us anything about this?

No. We're just hoping to perhaps build a home on that parcel of land for myself. Okay. We don't know for sure we're going to do it. We just want you. We just want to get You're just prepared. We'd like to find some land somewhere else. You know, you know, there's a lot of people looking for land to do things. We just didn't keep our yard. Well, thank you very much for your input there. Is there anyone else here that wants to speak for or against this? All right. Uh, you sent letters on this one. Two neighbors. Did not hear anything back from not hear anything from anyone. Okay. Uh, do we have a motion?

Motion. Have a motion from Heath. I'll second. And Steve seconds that motion. Any concerns or questions hearing? None. All in favor of the motion say I. I. Those opposed, no. Motion passes. And that go to board works. Works.

Give them something to do. All right. Um, the next item is a second hearing from Tenny Blackwell. He requests a major subdivision of track three of the Bedford development subdivision plant located on Williams Park Drive and John Williams Boulevard. And this parcel is 5.66 acres and they request to subdivide it into six lots. And this is the property right in front of Geoflow. Am I correct? Correct. Okay. Um has Missy looked at this? She has. And she's happy. Yes.

Okay. Um I mean there's there's further um storm water paperwork that will be filed with that permit application that Travis will file that I don't have. It's fairly extensive. Um but yes, city is fairly pleased with that. And what about Travis can further explain a lot of that? Travis, you want to talk to us a little bit? Yeah. You want me to go to the podium or kind of go through the plans? Do you there's been a lot of changes since the last time we spoke. I think in this right here this is it right here. Yes.

So I don't know if you guys have a full set in front of you to look at. Um quite a bit's changed obviously from the last time we had um originally we kind of showed a dead end road with a culde-sac. Well, now this is looping around from John Williams over to Williams Park and it's there's the stop light for Walmart is here. We'll be on top of Hill. There's an existing curb cut that was done with John Williams. So, the road will come through here like this now and tie in over at Williams Park. So, we'll have a good flow of traffic to kind of take the burden off of this intersection here. So, close to the intersection right there. And this is on top of the hill. So, you have good line of sight in both directions. I've seen I've looked at that and seen that. Um, do you think this is going to impact anything about traffic here of people wanting to go that way?

Definitely. And that's I'm going to this sheet too. So, we are proposing at this intersection to put a curb median in to force the traffic to go right to where they can't turn left across traffic. And that's going to be six inches tall. That's correct. So, you're going to really bump to go over it. That's right. If you hit it, you're gonna hit it. And you're going to you're going to fix it so it does not interfere with people walking or anything like that. Right. So it'll have for the sidewalks will have depressions there for curb ramps obviously so they can go across but it'll be six inches everywhere else. So it's not going to be like Starbucks. Correct. Okay.

Yeah. Well, we're trying to eliminate what would happen at Starbucks like backups here. So that's forcing everybody at least here to go right and down to the stoplight to come back. But someone coming east could go in there, couldn't? That's correct. Yeah, they could go in right here. And that's exit. You can exit either way there, too. That's correct. And that's on top of the hill where you can see both ways. Are there any worries as far as traffic coming out of that exit? Not really because it gives us pretty good clearance from where Walmart is to here. We got about 200 ft. Okay.

So, we'd have plenty of backup on the stop light there if traffic would all come out this direction. We asked you to talk to the mayor and the chief of police. It seemed like someone else. Have they looked at this? Are they happy with it? Kevin on that.

I met with the mayor, Dave Flynn, street commissioner. Uh Terry Moore, the police chief. Um Misty from utilities. Um and this we agree that this was the best option uh that we could come up with. Uh, I I applaud Travis and developers for being willing to take this road back out the other direction where there's already a a curb cut. Um, because that was a huge concern. If you go out there and look at it, there's not an actual turn lane. If you wanted to turn into Williams Park, if you were going east, there's not a turn lane there because that's all Walmart turn. So, this alleviates that. And we believe that having this come out on John Williams up here, there's a really good clear sight view from both ways. Uh alleviates a lot of traffic down here. So shy of doing traffic studies and reconfiguring a light that the city doesn't own. Um this is a good plan. What about the cave?

So on the cave we right here, this blue line is where we're putting the pipes in. So right now the pipes stop here at the head wall. We're looking to fill this area in and clean it up and extend those pipes over to this drainage ement area. So, we're going to make the drainage ement area 34 of an acre to protect the cave opening. Okay. So, with us extending the pipes, it did speed up the runoff. So, for us to slow it down, we've created the next sheet here.

Is it in there? And page four is what it looks like on the burn. Yeah. So the pipe will come across to this lot line which is the edge of the easement. So this is the cave opening here. So, we're going to do a 75 ft radius and create a foot and a half tall BM. And it will be rip wrap with 53 stone in the front of it. So, that water will come out of these pipes and hit that, slow it down, and let it filtrate through it slowly to slow the water down to what it is existing right now. Since we sped it up by extending these pipes, this will slow it down and make the runoff exactly what it is. Now,

Josh, remind me where on the old plan, where did the road stop? It stopped about right here. Okay. And then we have a little like a culde-sac here, right? Okay. Yeah. So now all the runoff from here will all come to this little Well, all the runoff anyway was coming here anyway, but with this ring around it, that's also going to protect it from sediment because they have to seep through it. And then we've created a maintenance agreement that whoever owns these five lots have to keep this clean, okay, free of debris. And we put that actually on the PL itself that we recorded, but they have to do that with the piping on lot one. Is that lot part portions of that not developable?

Well, we're going to put an easement here. So, this is the pipe. So, we're going to have 30 footies and 15 ft on each side. The city will have jurisdiction over it. Okay. But as far as anything on these private this private development will be part of the lot owners to maintain and take care of. Okay. The city will have jurisdiction over it, but they'll take care of the maintenance for it. But with that easement, they can still build on top of it. They can. Yeah.

And we did dual wall corrugated plastic pipe here because that's getting 10 feet of fill 10 to 12 feet. So we wanted to make sure it wouldn't cage and different things. So we took that into account on this. Plus if you do the corugated plastic, you know, years from now it will fail that they could come back and line it and put a new liner in it.

Any questions? All right. Anyone from the public want to jo in on this conversation? All right. No one there. We're ready for a motion.

I didn't know you said. Okay. Uh, so we have a motion what we want to do with this. I think with all the work that Misty has done with Travis and and the developers, I'm satisfied that this would be all right. I'll make a motion to uh approve the subdivision. Have a motion, I think. Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think this is Are you seconding that motion? I am seconding that motion. Okay, you're second that motion. Any further comments or discussion? All in favor say I.

I. I.

Uh, Commissioner Turpin is abstaining. The chair will vote in the affirmative. The motion passes. All right. The next item is a final hearing on the Cole Stinclair minor subdivision which is at the northwest corner of John Williams Boulevard and Bellback Road. He wishes to divide this into two parcel the parcel into two lots. They wish to divide that parcel as I said in two lots. That's just redundancy. The property is now zone B3. Travis So I'm representing Coulson player for this minor plat. So we are looking to split this into two lots. Uh but the main thing here we want to talk about just the two lots are pretty good size lots. They're 4.8 acres and 3.25. But on the south side of track two we will be changing that drainage ement. Originally we plotted this when it was Bever Development for Tom Miller. We had created a drainage easement there, but it wasn't sufficient for what's happening to the east of here and to the south of here with all the development. So, we did move that drainage easement to above the existing drainage pond that you see on that drawing and it's the dash line. So, basically the whole south half of this track would now be a drainage ement to protect the outfall of the of the pave. But we are looking to split this into two for a minor sub. All right. Do you have anything to show us here?

I can. I think it's this bunch right here. I think that's Yeah, I think it's that bunch right there. So, you see the the two tracks and right here's where the new easement line will be. So, there's an existing drainage pond here. Originally, and this was done for Tom Miller, that easement line was here. So, it didn't even cover the pond. If we move it to here now, it covers the pond area, which right here is the discharge discharge point for the cave. So that cave fills up and discharges here and goes into this pond and then through a 12in pipe underneath Backer Island. So he's going to split this between this and that back there.

Yeah. So he'll have this buildable area here, which will be a lot a pretty good building spot here. And then he'll have all this area here. This up here is all the power lines that goes through. So you still got two good buildable areas here on bellback. It's just this area here is is a very I mean it's kind of a sensitive area needs to be protected, right? Just because of the cave. So with this ement, they won't be able to build over that. No. Right. And that will be noted on the

Yeah. But we did the same thing here with the maintenance agreement like we talked about for the black wall development. Same thing. It'll be kind of maintained by a lot of owners. questions. Anyone from the public want to talk about this? Did you have any comments from people you sent letters to? I have not. Okay, we're ready for a motion. I will make a motion. We have a motion to approve. Yes. And we have a second. I'll second. All right. We have a motion and a second. Any further comments? Hearing none, all in favor of the motion say I. I. I.

And again, uh, Commissioner Turpin is abstaining and the chair votes in the affirmative. The motion passes. All right, we're now down to a final hearing for Janita. That right? Did I say it right? And Brian Norris. Um, Brian, would you care to step to the podium, please? I think I'm gonna represent them tonight. Okay. All right. If you'll come, I'd like to I'd like to get some things on the out in our our mind here.

Okay. This is already zoned as I2 which allows for right man light manufacturing manufacturing offices an auto body shop with painting a trucking or railroad terminal an open supply yard essential services accessory services exception permit for a junkyard mineral extraction sanitary landfill public utility structures, penal correction facility, private recreation, and public recreation. It's what it is now. Now, as I understand it, Travis, these are to be onebedroom units.

Um, I believe one bedroom. Yes, one bedroom. One bedroom. So the people who would occupy this would either be a single individual or a husband and wife or maybe a single individual and a child. Correct. So there's not going to be large families involved in this. Correct. Correct.

And it looks to me like they're about the same floor plans for all of them. There's a floor plan here if anybody would like to look at it at how it's laid out. This is kind of the architect's first rendering of it of what we're going to look like as far as the floor plan. So, you can see the one bedroom, living room, kitchen, bathroom, and so it's kind of like what you talked about, but it's also maybe for elderly people looking to downsize different things. A single person or a couple. Correct. Y and I understand that you have downsized this from 79 units to 65. That is correct.

And one of the big reasons for that is because you have included a retention pond that did you tell me that was 120 ft long? It's 120 ft wide by 200t long. 200 foot long. But that's all football field. Yeah. taking this from a grass lot and putting a lot of asphalt rooftops. So, we got to slow this runoff down quite a bit. So, the retention pond on this will hold fort of water all the time and then release it slowly to the northwest corner of the property. Okay. And everything will flow to kind of the center of the property through a series of drainage inlets and then go into the pond. How many units did you say? 65.

Yeah. And uh I understand there's an on-site office. That's correct. They will have an on-site office and it's shown on the site plan which should be here. So that's the existing property as it exists on its boundaries. And this is our site plan layout and the office area will be right here. So here's 39th Street. We got two entrances and exits areas. And then we got the office area right here. And then you can see all the units and they're all numbered and they're 65. Will that office be manned daily?

Sure. That would be the intentions. Yes. I do work full time this. It's my job to get a bill. Well, you got to get something for her to do it. Yeah, that's what we're trying to do here. Okay. So, so that someone will be in that office office office hours. Okay. All right. And um the question some questions have come to us. The reason I'm sure one question was uh who would do the trash on this will be a city street. This will excuse me. This will all be private. Oh, it'll be private. Yes. So, this will be a private development not turned over to the city. Okay. So, they'll take care of their own snow removal.

That's correct. They'll take care of their own mow in the yard if there's And there will be green space there, I'm sure. That's correct. Y and uh trash removal will be privately done. That's correct. All right. Um and however, the city will inspect these units yearly. Okay. Uh any any any place that has three units or more is inspected yearly by the city inspector. And uh I think all of these are three units. I think there's two back to back, isn't there? Something like that. Didn't I see that?

Yeah. Right here in this area in the middle. Back to back here. Three on one side and three on the other. That's correct. All of them will be inspected yearly by the city. Okay. Okay. Yep. And um the water flow is going to be north. It it goes to the northwest corner. That's why we put the retention pond here because all the water naturally goes this way. Yeah. I've been out and looked at this property and uh the uh on the south side. It's a little bit above the street level. The uh the dirt looks to me like there's a little space between the street and the top of the talking. Yeah. On the south side. Yeah. On the south side. So it's not like Okay.

Yeah. So, every there will be nothing go on 39th Street or any of the adjoining properties. We're going to take everything and bring it into the middle through a series of flow lines and inlets. So, it'll all come like this to here and then through a series of pipes into the retention pond. So, nothing will leave the site. And then even on our buffers around the property, anywhere we surround in a joiner, we made that buffer 25 ft. Okay? So, no building will be built within 25 ft of the property line. And then it'll be landscaped to the city's ordinance with trees. And there'll probably be street lights there. Yes. Yeah, we will be putting in some street lamps. What about sidewalks? There'll be sidewalks so everybody has access to get to the dumpster pads and to the mailbox areas.

Okay. Well, one of the questions last time was the amount of traffic. If there's 65 units and there one individual there, it's not going to be like they're going to be driving two cars out there every day or something like that. And we designed this for 175 spaces, okay? just to make sure we have plenty of spaces. Okay. I mean, technically, we only needed 130, but we went ahead and designed it for a little bit more, you know, because you just never know. Well, yeah. Mom down there. Exactly. Yeah. Um, will there be any kind of fencing around this?

There'll be now on the perimeter. I don't know. I haven't discussed that with Ryan yet. But now the retention pond there definitely will be a fence because it's going to hold water all the time. So they'll have a four four foot chain link fence all the way around it. We hear protection ter horror stories of people going into retention ponds and children and things like that in the big cities. So so the the fence is a safety net. Okay. You know for liability purposes for the developer too to have that there and in place. Last time I asked the question, do you have this? And they said, "No, we're working on is all the paperwork in to satisfy the city on water and

they have easements. I pending the approval. I mean, yeah, I talked with Air. Yeah. and they were willing to give us an easement because all the utilities, the water and sanitary will have to come across Tyler Anderson Air Masters and tie into the water on Industrial Park Drive. And the same thing with the sewer. Okay?

And there's no lift stations that will have to be involved. This is all gravity flow. And you can see that on one of the sheets how the sewer water is laid out. This is it here. So the green is the sanitary sewer layout and the blue is the water layout. You see it coming over here to industrial front drive. And actually our plan is is just tap here into this 6 in. And I would like to tap into the existing 4 in here because it'll just make a flow of the water. You know, that way everything's linked together. There's no dead ends to it. It'll flow and keep that. It'll actually help the people on 39th Street by taking the flow off of the 6 in on industrial park and transfer it there.

Okay. Any of you have any questions or Travis? Okay, this technically is still a public hearing and uh we have good memories. So, I really would not like to hear the same thing over that we heard the last time. Uh but if you're here from the public and you want to speak for or against this with new material, we'd be glad to entertain and let you do that. Yes, sir. Would you come to the podium and have you signed in, sir? Thank you. I I saw you sign in. I just checking it.

Said my memory is still good. Thank you. My name is John Vura 12 circle and I don't have any statement for or against. I made that statement last time we were here. I just had a couple of questions, follow-up questions that I'd like to ask. I don't know if I direct them to you or to you. I would say uh state your question and then other side. So, this is kind of a follow-up question. Um, all of the units are onebedroom. They're all the same size. I was just curious to know, you know, was there a target clientele for this development?

Well, we don't know. uh you know when someone wants to build a house we don't know whe they've got someone to buy that house or not. Is it a fair question?

It's a fair question but uh uh if you ask the city fathers they tell us that people are moving into Lawrence County considerable. So I would say yes. And if you look at the building that is going on out by Sherwood Oaks, uh they're filling those things up all the time. U it's amazing to me after I drive out there, my land, look at the number here. And we have a bunch of houses that went up behind Southland Church of Christ. We're filling up. uh the gentleman that put the uh uh apartments behind Johnny's sign. You drive by there and you see cars there. Uh there's another development there on 25th and Q Street kind of under the hill beside the the uh mobile home park. I noticed that there are cars there. They're filling up. So I would guess yes, but that's going to be up to the developer to worry about that. Didn't you say you're you kind of envision like seniors like 50 or 55 and over u not requirement as a requirement but that was what you envision? That's what you stated.

Yes. Last month. Yes. Oh, I didn't hear that last month. Okay. Okay. And then there was the other question. I think Byron, you asked it about section 8 and I wasn't sure what the answer of that was. Brian, can you help us with that? There's there's no way this will ever be considered a straight section house. Okay. Will not do that.

If an older we're going after the older couples, right? So, if a 60-year-old section 8 lady comes to us, wants to rent a unit off of us, she can't have anybody live with her. She has to follow certain guidelines. That's that's pretty good situation for everybody in the neighborhood and myself. So, are we going directly after that market? Absolutely not. But would we deny it? I don't I don't know why you would. So, it could be a mix. Now, there again, they're one bedroom, so you're never going to have section 8 families in there, right?

So, you got to follow section 8 guidelines. Nobody can live with that one single person. Okay. Thank you. Um, the only other question I had was, um, with regard to the construction of the town homes, um, I didn't, it's hard for me to tell from the drawing. Is it, is it possible to say a little bit about the construction? Yeah. So, there's renderings of the architectural plans that you're running. Yeah. Yeah. So, they're right here for you to look at if you want to look through here. There's the floor layout. Here's kind of the elevation. the what they look like. Okay, great. Thank you. Yeah, concrete slab. Correct.

Okay. Um and then the last question I had, a lot of the other questions have already been answered. Um have to do with signage. Are you planning to put signs up? There will be traffic signs like stop signs and different things. But as far as like the name of the apartment complex sign, that would be up to Brian what he wants to do. But not a big neon sign with advertisements.

Well, he'll have to go through Kevin and the city for that for his signage to make sure it meets their city has certain requirements on signs. Uh they're not going to put one on the side of this wall up there with, you know, they have to meet requirements. Okay. And we have had people put up one that was larger than it should be and we made them make it smaller. Okay. That's all the question.

Okay. All right. Thank you, sir. Anyone else want to speak for or against? Okay, we're ready for a motion. Do I hear a motion? May uh may I ask a question, Mr. chairman. Yes. Before the motion.

Yes. Uh a month ago, we had this uh we had the meeting and the neighbors and the public were in here. Uh Kevin, I'm just wondering, I see notices went out again. Have you gotten any more feedback uh that any of their peers have been eased by these drawings? And I will say while I'm on this subject, um we asked Mr. Norris for some detailed drawings and we got those. Thank you very much. Um this is what we we were needing, Travis. It looks like been pretty well put together. But um with that, have you had any other Kevin uh any comments from the neighbors, the public?

I've spoke to John by phone last week. Yes.

And I think we answered most of his questions last week and and then he's asked the rest of them today. Um the Knights that live to the west of this property, I think she was the first one to speak last time. Uh I talked to her yesterday. They were going to try to meet her, but they had a prior family thing and she said that she did not oppose this initially. She had a lot of questions about drainage and you know how was it going to affect her but u she there at this point they don't have any opposition to it. Uh I did speak to I don't remember the name but they live east of the uh stone mill. um they opposed it but they also hadn't seen the plan. So that's the only other conversations I've had since our last meeting.

These questions that I had those come from that was okay and and my prefacing remarks where to cover some of these items for you. Okay. I hope I covered them all. Okay. Anything else, Steve? Uh no. I was just curious. I was sort of expecting a thundering herd again. Okay, I'm still asking for a motion. I'll make a motion to approve zone. I have a motion. Do I have a second?

I'll second that. Everything we asked for a month ago I think we have has been presented to us to make a much more intelligent decision than we could right uh last time. So I will second that. Okay. I have a motion and a second. Any further questions or comments from the commission. All in favor of the motion say I. I. I. Oppose. No. The motion passes. Um now we're into new business. City council. Pardon? Where does this go? This goes to the city. Goes to city council.

Okay. It goes to the city council. And at the city council, it will not be a public hearing. Uh the public will unless you've made arrangements with the mayor prior to uh there's no conversation from the public there. It's ma mainly them hearing from us what we have done and then they move on that. So that is the next hurdle and that will be at the meeting. It's next Tuesday. Next Tuesday. Okay. 7:00. Okay. Here

Stonegate down Stonegate Drive. Okay. All right. New business at a preliminary hearing for DC DDC Wells Incorporated who is requesting to resone 1516 R Street from R2 to B1 for the purpose of using the existing building as an office space. The existing building has been used for this purpose under a variance since July 1999. Um to clarify it has been an attorney's office. Okay. and was recently purchased by DC DDC Well incorporated has three parcels there. Um, is someone here speak? Yes, sir. You are. Did you sign in?

Yes, I thought I saw you. My name is Bon Flores. I'm representing Johnson Rachel Wells. They uh own Dayton Seating. So, they're looking to move their office, just their office, we call them office girls. There's three of them, uh, to this building. and it was used by Dar Brent for over 20 years as an office space. Just looking to do the same. I think they want to add some parking to it. But I that's it. Okay. Retail or no customers or anything like that. Just host just Yeah. clients coming in to pay bills. Yeah. There is some parking on the north side of that building, isn't there? There is some gravel. Yes.

Yeah, that's where I thought. And actually there are three parcels there. I think one on the south side of it was Dodd Edington's uh um dental office for a while. I I get someone we're old enough to remember that, aren't we, sir? And yeah, I think he had an office there on the corner and then there's one that's kind of high up that faces 16 or Yeah. 16th Street. Yeah. Okay. All right. So my question would be did the variance that was existing did that go away with the sales of property?

That's correct. There actually two variances. There was one that had and there was one for an accounting office that was there briefly but both of those they vacate when the property sells. Is the chiropractor's office there? Um it's the next one. Next one over. Is that got a barrier or is that I didn't look that one up. I don't know. You have the Thomas insurancees up from that. It's on but the picture made it look like it was all across the road on our street is insurance sales. It used to be Will I

and that's R as well? It's all R. I'm I didn't look them up to see if they're all operating number variances or how that went, but I know this one did. Okay. Any other questions? Are we ready to move this to a public hearing? I'll make a motion to move it on to a public hearing. We have a motion to move it to public hearing. Second. And we have a second. Any further questions? Hearing none. All in favor say I. I. Those opposed, no. So we will see what happens at our next meeting which will be in January. Thank you. Okay.

All right. Thank you, sir. All right. The next item of business is a preliminary hearing for Belinda Hicks to reszone 1520 Clinic Drive from I2 to B1. The building on the property is currently being used as a home and she would like to use the building for her catering business. Hello, Blender. Fine. Sorry you've had to wait so long, but so there's a building currently on the property and I'm leaving it as residential, but I'm wanting to build a new kitchen in there on that. There's three acres there. Okay.

Yeah. So, I'm going to do like a 60 by 100 building. I just got an accepted offer. So, it's kind of in the beginning stages. Accepted offer to buy the property or Okay. So, you don't currently own the property? No, I did. We did a contingency that I could get those get it resoneed. Okay. Yeah. All right. You have signed paperwork. I do. I think you have copies of it. Okay. Okay. Yeah. If I didn't supply, but I do.

Okay. All right. We hesitate to redo something for someone that doesn't own the Exactly. But our history is if you have this paperwork in, which you do have, then we can move on. Okay. Okay. All right. Any questions for her? I had a hard time finding it, but uh it's kind of tucked back in. It is. It's kind of back off there. Any questions for her? You say there's a home on the property. There's a pole building and it's living quarters. Elderly gentleman. I saw the picture of the of the barn there. So,

yeah. He lives at half and half of his garage and he's going to remain to stay there. it wouldn't be quite big enough for what I need. So that's the reason I just decided to build another building. Just just curious. So there's the building there. Are you going to build back there? Is the correct? Yeah, it's all level, right? All the utilities are back there. As I understand, you're not going to open a restaurant there. You're just going to do your work there. I'm just going to do the work there. And I'm going to have a small just a very small banquet room there. Like I do a lot of things like for rotary and different groups throughout the week and like the me hauling it out it's easier for them to come to me. How big is it? You say the property uh three acres. Three. So you have plenty of room for parking.

Oh absolutely. Yeah. Okay. All right. Any questions? What do we do want to do with this? We want to move it to the public hearing. I'll make a motion to move this to a public hearing. We have a motion. I'll second that. And we have a lot of seconds. U all in favor say I. I. I and uh Commission Member Turpin cannot vote on this. He's abstaining. So the chair will vote in the affirmative. It passes and we'll see you next month. Perfect. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

Okay. Do we have any discussion? It's nice to see daylight outside when our meeting is over. Anything you want to tell us, Kevin? Wow. Well, uh I'm hearing that uh below five is coming in where Jos was. Uh they're currently in the process of remodeling that building or that suite. So I haven't been out there and see how far along they are, but yes. Okay. Anything else coming up that you know coming in that you know and can tell us? Not that I can guarantee.

Okay. Well, wheels one of these days. Well, they said December, didn't they? They've done a lot of work out there and they're advertising a lot on the media in Indiana. So, I don't think the weather is held out for them to be able to do some underground work that they need. So, that's the delay. Excuse my ignorance, but what's five below? A step above all. Would that be a good I think everything in the store is $5 or less. You want to go on an excursion? I'll take you up to one in Bloomington and let you look.

They got pretty well. They got lots of bargain. Anything else? All right. I'm ready for a motion to adjurnn. Motion to adjurnn. Have a motion. Second. And a second. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor say I. I. Those opposed? No. Okay. Some people fuss at me but you cannot uh discuss in