City Council - Regular Meeting

Mayor and the Board of Aldermen. Today is Thursday, August 13th. Roll call to determine a quorum.

Ms. Angela Tappan, District A. Here. Mr. Peter Doty, District B.

Here.

Mr. James Green, District C. Here. Mr. Darren Green, District D. Present. And Mr. Kyle Block, District E. Here. All five are present. We have a quorum.

Thank you. We will have the invocation. We'll ask Bishop Charles Bradford to deliver the invocation and then the Pledge of Allegiance.

We have to follow up. We thank you for this week tonight, Lord. You open every heart and every mind, Lord. I look forward to seeing you back. of our leaders in this way that you were going to do. So give us a mindset to make the proper decisions of living for our America on vacation, living for our community as we go forward. We just thank you for all you have done. Most of all, we thank you for what you're going to do. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen.

Amen.

Amen. Amen.

At this time, we'll have a request of any city council members or agenda modifications. I do have one to add resolution 26-2141 and the item 13A. Any other requests from the council? We do have another one.

I also have a question to expand the agenda. I'm not sure how long. And the agenda schedule, I have a special call meeting for next week. There are some items on the agenda that we need to take care of.

Can I get a motion to expand the agenda? That would be next Thursday.

Yes.

What time? 530.

We're there.

Next. This motion on the board expanded.

Yeah.

I'll make that motion.

All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. We're at number four for announcements and recognitions by the mayor and the council. I have one. I want to thank everyone for assisting in my backpack giveaway. We hosted in District A, which was a landmark event. I appreciate everybody from the council and the community that assisted. Mr. Green, thank you for being boots on the ground. I appreciate you.

I'd like to uh give the city a fyi fyi there are a lot of projects going on in the city especially in my district um there's a lot of public works uh projects that are being that are taking place a couple of them are regarding uh street reshapes bridge retailers and i would just like to caution the public that when we get close to these areas, these areas have been blocked out for a reason. And I would ask the public to make sure that we're not going inside. If you don't live in that area and that road is blocked out, just ask for you to be careful in that area and if you can, bypass it so we don't have to worry about tearing up the road signs, the blocked off signs. And there's some of that going on in the city where signs have been put up but they did not now push down or whatever. So, uh, we pay attention, be more cautious surrounding those areas.

Thank you, Councilman Doty. Anyone else? Number five, public comments as related to any matter on the agenda.

Good evening, councilor and mayor of 14. My name is Charles Bradford, 13 and 20 South Washington Street. I had a couple comments on the agenda here. Item number 7A, 8C, and number 9. I'll start with, excuse me, I'll start with the financial committee on the bills and claims report. I noticed that we might have an increase in grantees. I just wondered what anybody's saying, maybe, why Mr. John's fee has been so much increased. I think it was $7,700 maybe, something like that.

Mr. Johnson, would you like to answer that?

It's not an interesting question, sister. Well, let me make it to the public that Mr. John fees have been extended from 4800 to some 75 plus 8,000. I mean, $8,000 per month. And I just want to have the city council approve that. Let me move on. Thank you, Mr. John. I put it in each month. It's detailed. I put it in each month. It's detailed. sorry that's another detailed invoice tomorrow oh yeah i understand understand um well that'll be discussed with the city we won't get into that just wanted me to get to my attention uh hc calling for him this is thorny he's not here yet i don't i don't think i see any department here well that's you know reserved because that was a Don't have to take me to the end. And I don't see it in Mr. Rogers. Just in case you do come in, I'd like to reserve it to address that. If you do come in late, you know, we don't see it on the agenda. We just want to reserve it. We'll go down to number nine. Action on order and resolution in the previous minutes. Approve. I mean, the approval of order 264287. The ordinance established a solar panel administration project and standards. Again, in this community, why would we entertain this? I think we made it clear that the community did not want solar panels no more inside the city limit. Why would we even be considering adopting an ordinance to set standards? I mean, know we i believe this matters in court uh this matter have been discussed and i don't i'm just making suggestions that the council doesn't even entertain this particular request to do this because the support matter it's a community matter and we are concerned and we don't want it why put it in the community why discuss it i mean I don't know who keep putting it back on the agenda. I don't know who's gonna do the makeup of the agenda, but here it appears again. I can tell you the last time, and I just found it's a necessary waste of resources of this community to continue to entertain what the community do not know.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Anyone else have any comment? consent and approval of previous minutes. We have none. Are they just not prepared or will this be next week?

Again, There was some confusion with regards to the meeting that you noticed that you didn't get an agenda from the customer that was usually against the agenda. There was an impression that this regular meeting was going to be funny. So kind of threw everything off the schedule. That's why you don't see department heads here. That's why you didn't get a packet when you got it. typically we would get it. So I thought that was the confusion of whether or not this meeting was actually supposed to be rescheduled for the 20th. So that's the reason why we have some discrepancies in what you're used to. And on behalf of the administration, we apologize for any inconvenience that may have brought to council and members of the public.

Thank you.

i'm saying i'm not sure i'm not sure the genesis of how that came about um but it did i'm just you know putting the information out there i'm not sure like i said genesis of it you know it was contemplation i mean we have it right now

supposed to be scheduled for the tournament?

That's my understanding that just like the previous meeting that got rescheduled, this meeting was going to be rescheduled as well. That's just my understanding. Again, I wasn't in any discussion to force this. That was just an impression that I got because other people had it. Again, that led to the package not coming out, being completed, getting it to you ahead of time. That's what I was trying to figure out. Yeah, I know there was dialogue, you know, way past the last meeting because there was talk about rescheduling the previous meeting and this meeting, but I'm not sure the logistics of it. In all honesty and actuality, the meeting

Discussion should have never been had about canceling this meeting. That's the reality. Doesn't matter who's able to be here, who's not able to be here. If the charter says that we're supposed to have a meeting, that means we should have a meeting. If we're going to reschedule, reschedule any meeting, that means we need to do it in a meeting session, in an open session, so the public will understand from the very beginning Again, there should have been no confusion because some of us were not aware that a meeting was even being talked about for the 20th. The meeting today should have stood as was according to the calendar and according to the charter. I know there was some talk out there about the meeting being rescheduled to the 20th, but for legal reasons, that couldn't happen. So besides that, there should have been should have been no confusion about the meeting that did happen. And so we have to move on from that. But, you know, going further, you know, that's a lesson we can learn and have in our hip pocket. The meeting's by charter. If we don't vote to reschedule it inside the meeting, then it has to go forward. Thank you. Mr. J.

Green, point of information.

In our last meeting, the problem is we talked about this at the end of the meeting, but we was in a discussion. If you go back and look at the meeting, I'll say it specifically. Everybody was in a hurry to leave because it was late. I said, hey, we got to do a resolution. But everybody was in a hurry. Nobody said anything. So we got to do a resolution if we're going to move the meeting. Nobody stated anything. So this is where we're at. because we represent the people. You don't have to get in a herd. We don't come in for a show. You don't worry about how long we'll be here. You got to do things prop and order. When we left here, we didn't do a resolution. We should have done a resolution. So we actually talked about it at the meeting. It was an open forum meeting. We were at the council meeting. We spoke about it, but everybody was like, Ready to go, and nobody really was focusing in on it towards the end of the meeting, because it was a long drawn out meeting. And if you go back and look at the meeting, we discussed it at the end of the meeting. Everybody was counting like an agreement on it, but we never did anything formal.

Thank you. Number seven, consideration and action on reports of committee appointed of the governing body. A, finance committee report, Mr. Jay Green.

Um, it seemed to be some problem with, you know, find it to be further. It was some, it was the Dodie. He was moving into a few things, a few things that y'all had a question and then turn it here.

Now, what I'd like to do is table the minutes or in the building plan for the meeting. for the July monthly bills and claims. There are some issues that need to be discussed at another meeting time. I make a motion that we do not accept the monthly bill behind that and we table it to a future, a special court meeting.

We actually don't really accept the meetings. you know, talk about the discrepancy or whatever we want to discuss, because actually we don't have to reject or table it because we're not mandated to accept it anyway. It's just a formality. But what I was hoping to do as chairman, because there was some issues that needed to be continually discussed that we ran over in our finance meeting. So I was giving you a chance to address your concern.

Okay. Well, if we look at the bill, the monthly bill, are a couple of issues on there that I think need more clarity on. One of them is the city attorney's pay and prosecuting attorney. The issue with that would be, as far as I'm concerned, is that I think that should have come by the council. According to what I'm reading in the law, it says that the mayor does not have unilateral authority to decide to pay the city attorney the other funds, the additional funds. That should have been, because again, not only do you have a problem with the payment, you have a problem with what item in the budget it came from. The information I got, it came from item 94. Item 94 in the general budget on the administrative side. Well, if I look at item 94, line item 94 on the budget, this is our current budget. It says Medicare expenses $12,000. So I know we got to put it in Medicaid expenses. That was the information I was given when I asked that, that it was pulled from line item, specifically line item 94. And that cannot be the case. So there is an issue.

with where the money came from to do that the only question i have i mean that's the budget question yeah when you first find out what do you mean where the where the extra funds were being paid from i'm asking what line item what budget you're talking about or national no this year's budget this is budget It should be out of special service. I don't. Yeah, but somebody told me something.

Right, right. That's the information I was given legally that it was coming from my 94. So I think professional services are there, but that's not what I was talking. So I have to go back to the information I'm given with.

that can be uh confirmed with the bills and claims with this with the invoice because that's not a medical experience i don't know of course and i'm not i'm not quick i'm not even speaking on that i'm just telling you that professional services is what is being that that's the funding that that comes out of now what line item it is you have to budget you can tell me what line item it is on what page so somebody gave you something

Okay. If you, it's page 416, and this is the current fiscal year's budget. Professional services is at $140,000.

That number, I think, should be in discrepancy as well, because when we did a work-up of the budget, it was changed. If it wasn't, I don't know if you remember. I don't remember, but that's what I'm saying. This is an issue that we need to revisit. Until we get full clarification on it, then I think the minutes should be accepted, the minutes from the finance that should be taken. Well, since we're here.

professional service, then line. Who all was paid on that particular line?

Uh, professional service, you have me, you have Joan, you have, uh, M5, uh, I think it's...

So, can you tell me that, Kate, can you tell me the standard rate for all three of them? I can't tell you. I don't know. You can just give me the monthly standard rate for each one of them. The answer is $4,000 monthly for the city clerk, which is $48,000. $4,000 for the budget and policy, which is $48,000.

THE SPECIAL ADVISOR TO THE MAIL ORDER, CHIEF OF STAFF, WOULD HAVE BEEN, HIS RATE IS $33.54 A MONTH. SO THAT ROUNDS OUT TO ABOUT $120,000. NO. CHIEF OF STAFF. ALL THREE OF THOSE SHIPPING HERE AT $120,000.

what is the in the budget 140 because i because i'm running so you got two two of those names 48 000 a piece because 48

And you do 20 times 30. That gives you your rate.

So yeah, that's running.

The other issue is if it was paid out of professional services out of that line, since I have a copy of the budget, should that number have changed or do we have to wait? because this is the living, breathing document, right?

Yeah, it will change if the projection when we get to Q1 just about to change. Just because the change outtracks the budget, that's the decision we have to make. Because if we get to Q1, there's more than 25% when we have to change.

Okay, thank you a lot. That's why I have a question. If it's being paid out of the $140,000, when will that number show up at each check?

When we do Q1, because Q1 is the first quarter. So the baseline would be 25% expended in other categories. And then we make adjustments, just like we did the other ones. We use that as the... engaged to assess whether or not we need to either reduce that capital or increase it.

Okay. If money is being paid out of this particular line item for the last three or four months, then again, we've exhausted the $140,000 already.

if the current trend goes from 52 weeks. That's the reason why you do, that's why they recommend you do budget revisions while we do affordably budget revisions, because that number is going to jump out of, you're going to go to each category, everything on 25 cents. It's like we did the first time. You question every line item that's exceeded budget, except for the ones like, I remember you had a question we had, I think it would be insurance. We pay all that at one time. So it was 90% because we paid it. So those line items you kind of set to the side because that's not what Brock gave. So you'll see that when we do Q1. Everyone, like I explained to you before, whenever we do Q1, Q2, Q3, or whatever, Whatever that target is at the top, anything that's over there, that's what you should draw your attention to. That's the reason why we're doing it. So when I give it to you, you can look at it. And the first thing you do is if at the top it's at 25%, you go down each line and you make a note. Which one's on 25% in Q1? And then you figure out, okay, what's driving it? And those are the questions that you develop. And we'll look at it.

and we'll be able to judge that's why we're going that's why we're not going to blow the budget up because we're going to look at it more times i understand but i think one of the consequences making is trying to fix a situation instead of waiting to keep one because we are saying that it's going According to the numbers that we have, because we only budget for $140,000, just our base salaries, it was equal to $136,000. So that's a little wiggle room with $4,000 a year. So you're looking at now an increase to the amount of $4,000, it's going to be an issue.

Not necessarily.

But you have to put it for some work. Not if you don't approve. But then how do you, okay. So if you don't approve it, then how do we get paid?

There's always that that's outside.

That's even better, even better. Because now, because now, because according to the facts that Mr. Douglas just gave, the work has been done. So someone had to approve it if you haven't come before the board. Because think about how else would the work be performed if it wasn't approved. And then if it was approved, I understand the work being done. But now at that moment, that's when this board get involved because we have to be, we still have to learn money. we have to agree or we have to move money somewhere else to cover the improvement that wasn't made by the board. I'm not saying you're right or wrong. It's not a good question. No, no, no. I was right. Councilman J.

Green? Point of information was done. You stated

chief of step when he was calling out those budgetary numbers yeah uh what would you you say chief of staff was what how much was they it's 33 people a month okay well that's right having some clarification so cheaper step is a permanent position not an outsourced position so somebody to be chief of step they would have to be I'm just saying what you was reading on there, I see that also. That's a question for the administration. I'm asking Mr. Smith.

I disagree. That's not a budgetary question, so I don't have an answer for you, boss. Titles and staff and level, that's not something that's in my purview. I was just asking, maybe it was a type. It could have been, because I don't ever recall anybody being referenced in any meeting as a chief of staff. And that's just my recall, and I don't mean anything. I don't remember anybody being referred to as chief of staff.

Can you read those categories in the budget?

Oh, the category in the budget is for family service. I'm telling you that. Great.

Who are we paying in professional services now?

myself uh myself mr jones if i we still do we have a yes you all three because i could i mean i mean i know we were addressing this long ago we also kind of just effected if i'm not mistaken that attorney doing extra work now so i'm assuming i'm assuming this would have to be extra work

According to the contracts that was brought before the council, Mr. Mayor's position was contracted as not Mr. Mayor himself, but his company, M5 to provide chief of staff services to the city. That's what that contract said.

okay well that is the decision of the council is not to accept the building claims for the month of july um 7b will be planning and zoning committee

Thank you, Debbie Rogers, planning and zoning president. First item we had on our agenda is the front porch garden and gifts. That's at 111 East Madison. It's the side where Steve's jewelry is, but it's back towards the police jury office. She's going to open up a shop there to sell little gifts, candles, jewelry, things like that. So it was approved by right. Our next item was Butler Substitutions. It's an online business. It's all digital, no personal sales, and it's a recipe sales. People provide recipes to this lady, and then she sells them online. next item is gin root properties 1220 south washington street it's just going to be an open space for parties like birthday parties anniversaries and things like that okay this is a special use permit um well Let me address the question that Mr. Bradford had. If they submitted their application after our last meeting, which was the 20th, it will be at our next meeting. So it's kind of bad for some people because if they do it like a day after our meeting, you've got to wait 30 days before your application is heard. So it may be that there's . All right, this is a special use permit and it was voted to send to the city council for either approval or decline. Shannon Walker, it's 212 Terrace Street. I'm sorry, 212 Terrace Street. She wants, there's like a concrete slab where a house burned, but it's been completely torn down and it's just a slab there. Well, she has a brother who is homeless and she wants to put an RV there and for him to live in. Right now, the RV only has a generator. but if he's allowed to move there, they're going to get an electrical pole and water and all that to hook up so that he can run it on electricity instead of the generator. She said she did check with the neighbors that live next door and the neighbors were okay with that being there. But it is an RV, it's not a mobile home. So, anyway, that's something that the city council needs to either.

What was the report of the recommendation?

Yeah, it was a recommendation that we send it to the city council.

Did you recommend to approve or disagree?

We neither one.

You have to make one of those.

Okay.

Yeah. Recommend it or not. Okay.

So only my point of information. OK. So when is your next meeting?

Miss Rogers Monday, Monday, yes ma'am.

So we will have results on Thursdays meeting. Yes ma'am.

And you said the neighbors did not have anything.

Yes, sir.

Mr Doty, thank you for your presentation today. Uh, I'm wondering why we don't have. Yes, this is not, you know, regarding you have to be. Yeah, I understand.

I explained that earlier. This is a fusion. You didn't get your package in time that you usually give with the information.

So we'll have it for them.

Yeah, I mean, um, well if they meet Monday, It probably is.

I'm talking about the information she had back ago.

Yeah, but they got to revisit it. So it's going to be different. So there's no need to give it to you.

You had to revisit how many? All of them? Just one. The rest should come to us. Thank you. So if we vote on Monday night, then we could present it at your next meeting next week. I heard.

Any other questions for Ms. Rogers?

Thank you, Ms. Rogers. Thank you.

7C Quality Assurance Panel, Mr. D. Green.

Yes, we're working on a way of procedure for people to watch our attention. Very serious things are going to place. I will not share right now, it's paramount, but once we establish a way to deal with the complaints with City Attorney Mr. Jones, we will call a special meeting and we will came upon telling something that I left that we have to address soon. If I get more information, I'll let the council.

Thank you, Ms. D. Graydon. 7D, Historical District Board, Ms. D. Tubbs. I'll come to you, Seth.

We're still working on what I talked about last month, which is an amendment to ordinance pertaining to alcohol in the historic district so we're still kind of working on that and i will um probably give it with uh devon about some aspects of that mr doughty has one question for you mr can you remind us what the uh what the uh for this year

refer to what needs to change with the ordinance.

Okay, I wouldn't expect him to speak.

Just a brief moment.

But as it stands right now, there's nothing in the ordinance. All the ordinance says is that restaurants and alcohol are allowed within the historic district. There's no guidelines whatsoever on the sale of alcohol, or if there's somebody that just wants to open a bar, there's no guidelines that says he can't in the historic district. Our position is that the historic district, and most especially the square, needs to remain a family-friendly atmosphere. And any businesses located within that historic district needs to, there needs to be specific guidelines to exactly what can be served in the whatever historic district, which is the square, round, match up in the block. completely around.

So, are there alcohol in the historic district? Yes, they're at the restaurant. At the restaurant. And so, have you and your people, have y'all looked at, I know you say there is no specific thing in the ordinance now, do you have a presentation

Or what you would like to yes, we're working on that and we're looking at, we, we looked at the city of Hammonds historic district guidelines. And also, I believe we see, because we had a special call meeting Monday night. Or Tuesday night, I can't remember what today is. As well as. Covington, we're looking at historic district guidelines. and as they pertain to the sale of alcohol, the sale of everything, you know, exactly what is allowed inside their industrial industry. So we're hoping to possibly model it by something that's already done. We don't want to recreate the wheel and have to go out and do all that. So we're looking at a couple of other ones to see, we like this and this one, we like this and this one, and kind of put it together. to be able to present. Jay Green. Mr. Jay Green.

Go ahead. I have a question for you. Sure.

Those laws you referred to, that was in the conception of the historic, when was the historic district established?

Instead, if you have that, you have the. It was.

Don't worry about this.

I have been on this for at least 20 years and it was probably five or six years before.

So this is what you referred to as the original law. It's always been like that. That's been amended when.

We became a Main Street town. And please don't hold me exactly to this because I'm trying to think and I'm 57 years old. So when we established the Main Street project here, that is when, about that time, that is when the historical district came in around the same time.

Okay. It's not a gadget question. I was leading. I'm going somewhere because I want to know. The laws you read in the ordinance, that was when it was first established. That's all I'm asking. Yes.

It's the original ordinance. Yes.

That's what I'll do. So you've been on it 20 years. Yes, sir. And there have been, that call has been, have y'all have any, besides that restaurant up there now, have y'all denied anyone else the right to?

We've never denied anyone anything. We don't have that power.

No, I'm just saying when y'all been historical district, you know, uh, recommend or whatever. So it's always been, they have always been able to say, you just try to get another ordinance to proactive before, because we do have Sarah.

Okay. And historically they have been retail, the restaurant, he teased as a restaurant. other than those two historically it's been rejected and so as we do have empty buildings and um you know how it comes up well what about if somebody wants to do this what about if somebody wants to do that we're trying to be proactive to say you know we want the area to stay family friendly and um along with the concept of what the historic district means

Anybody else?

We should have something for you.

Thank you so much. Number eight. Bachelor of City Police Department. Chief Reed. i'm looking at i don't see any department chief chief williams hc code enforcement officer lee thornton d public works assistant director karen thompson e city clerk miss clark i know she was here does she know too much I'm here. Well, I know this meeting was posted. I know it's in confusion, but this meeting was posted.

I know nobody else can answer why nobody is here or nobody is not here. That's not for any of us to do. We've had and we've asked for these officials, department heads, to be present at council meetings. That's been the way that we've made it, because there's still business and there's still questions and answers that need to be had inside the meeting. And if we don't have them here to answer that, then I pose the question, you know, what do we have in the meeting for? because that's very vital part of why we have these meetings. And this is in response, all of this is in response to the public need. This is about the city of Bastion. So I'm just going to go and say that because there are no department heads here, that begs the question, why? And nobody can answer that. So that's a question for the administration. And again, I want to go on record to state that in our future meetings that department heads need to be present. If they are department head and they are listed on this form, they need to be present. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Weldon. I'm in agreement. And City Attorney, Mr. Jones.

Mr. D. Green kind of gave some of the update that we're working on with Quality Assurance, working with some process forms, resolutions to come out of there. We've also worked forward with dealing, we had a We had a training back in July with the police department when it relates to their legal updates and their enforcement. And issues like that report Friday and everything else. So they're able to do lunch with it. It's able to update them on all the legal aspects of necessary to also satisfy. Okay. Yeah. Mr. Jake.

Mr. Joe, I know it's on down on the, on the list, but he was supposed to, did you check? He was going to get back with me on that moratorium consecutive moratorium.

Yeah.

Yes. Uh, since we're at the city attorney, uh, can you tell me, uh, Since DEQ came in and shut this project down here, the building up on Main Street, is that project back in progression? Is it back in work?

That's not in my department. That's going to be the Federation of Public Works or wherever that's at. That's not in the city. That would be a legal issue. The legal issue came up, the resolution of that legal issue,

Again, we have a problem because we don't have anybody here to answer the question.

What did DEQ do again? DEQ shut the work down on this project. When? It's been about a month ago or so. You're talking about the project by 113, 1000? because it has invested in it and you got to be certified when it deal with it's best to say when it's

Who are more consecutive buildings or something you got to. Something you got to be certified, so therefore they came in. And it didn't have a. Qualifications or whatever, and they just shut the project down. For the notes, I don't know where we stand at.

Yeah, that was that's the more deal with the contractor than us. That was that was the. The library that was doing it that hit contracts.

So in a situation like this, if I understand that we had somebody contract out to do the job, how do the payment work at that moment? Contract works paid on performance.

So paid on completion. So until completion.

Oh. Mr. Duggan. Mr. DeGreen, there's already been two payments on the work. building, two $2,500 payments for Ms. Hawkins. She's the one that put it on the building. After that, that's kind of around the time the building shut down. Maybe around after that second payment. So again, I only ask the question because we're at the legal part. And if DEQ shut it down, then I'm thinking that it's now become a legal issue. So he's saying that it's more administrative stuff. Yeah, the legal aspect of the contract.

It's kind of because they're performing the work that's whatever it takes to get them legal or qualified. I don't know where they're at with their issue. I know on our side, whether they started back up or not or when they plan on.

But the city would have some liability in that way, would they not?

The DEQ did come in and shut the project down. The site was tested. It was cleared. An engineer went out and did a report on cost estimate to finish demolishing the building. And that's what I know to date. I don't know anything else other than that. DEQ came in. They shut it down. Contractors reviewed the site, the site has been cleared by DEQ and the engineer came in to assess what the cost would be to finish demolishing the site. I believe that information has been provided to the administration.

I don't have it. Mr. Long. That would be on the contract, not on the city. be sent to the contract.

I'm not sure the information that you got, but there's never been. That's the distinction I was trying to make. historically it was our project and that's positive standpoint that's one of the trade-offs of outsourcing certain things um you shield yourself from that bills and again you don't divert city human resources to take care of certain things so it's catch 22 on because a lot of times it's an increased cost but you get the benefit of production a lot of bills okay any other questions

eight G policy and Mr. Smith members only brief.

We are in the process and I'll submit that to you probably Monday to do the closeout queue for budget. We don't make it available for inspection, probably Monday, Tuesday, but we're going to advertise the official journal Thursday. We're going to count the 10 days from Thursday to be inspected prior to that day. Just a little FYI on the budget. Mr. Green, D. Green, I can report to you that those concerns you had with those projections from Q3 on forward, they came in right within that standard deviation. Probably a little bit better than the standard deviation because the standard deviation is 5% up or down. the net was around a little less than 3%. And then I went back and did it from Q2, and it was off maybe 0.3%. So I'm confident, because again, my projection models are based on historical data. And again, that snapshot does give a good indication. So moving forward, I know your concerns, because again, I ran it again, and had I done it again, it would have been almost a little bit over half percent more. So you got 0.3 to a half percent. So you got a negligible amount of the difference it would have been. And the only reason why it's being advertised is because there was a caveat that came in that I'm going to have to revisit because there was some reason why our work has come. came in an unusual skewed way, which wasn't anticipated. And that's the only line item that was out of the ordinary that wasn't captured by those projections. And I'm going to talk to the insurance company to figure out what that was. But you'll be glad to know that we're going to have almost a half million dollar surplus in this budget. balance sheet that's going to be attached to q4 so the numbers are pretty straightforward you're having i'm going to try to get it out to you tomorrow but don't hold me to that for monday um and we're going to do for all three budgets even though they're within that five percent variance um and they're not necessarily need to be advertised but since we advertised the general fund Because we're going to pay for the cost. So we might as well put them all out there for everybody to see.

OK. Mr. Jay Green, you had a question?

Yes. Mr. Smith, if you're a policy person that we need to talk about, let's go back to the investors. I spoke with you once before about when they talked to the state inspector when they came out and they did the inspection, it was like, man, you and Ms. John want to discuss so much but i think the best policy the best practice going forward is to reach out to the state and see because if it's i think it was two or more was connected you had to have an inspector in the um in the downtown area so don't quote me on what i'm saying is for asbestos or a contract for asbestos. So before we go sourcing it out, outsourcing it, work on it, let's make sure that we don't be in compliance with state rules and regulations.

Yeah, and that's what we are moving forward because the engineer not only did that project but did some other projects that we'll put that information out there to you. That particular project was unique in the sense that it presented a safety hazard So, again, I think you're leading to the two papers that were made initially. One of those papers was to secure that site to make sure it was safe. So, I mean, that was a discussion that came up before. So, and Ms. Green, you're correct. That's what we're going to do. I mean, we have engineers. We're going to use our engineers. But the only other thing about that is that the engineers are not going to expect good luck. It's the best. But you're always going to have to take the age and when there's a building. in one of the reports they did uh cost them a demolition and they noted that possibility uh as best as abatement because of the edge of the building they gave a quote on which is bring it down and take everything off but the caveat is that as best this price doesn't uh include abatement and he said a year or two i just can't i don't have it in front of me he said any building built

I certainly got to get it. You have to just assume that it might be in that report. I'm not sure.

But yeah, that's moving forward because a lot of projects, especially the diggers, will consult with the engineer before we even contract it out.

So generally, it's a good understanding. That building has been expanded.

By DEQ for the best. I mean, no, it has flagged, but it's been contracted by a qualified party to do an inspection. Yes, it has been. DEQ wouldn't have let anybody out there. Yes, I'm not sure if it has. That was part of this question.

You know, I have the project reconvened and restarted. We met on the contract and met on the state guidelines. And I would assume that it would be restart. Possibilities. Right. Okay.

Thank you.

There's nothing preventive about it.

Right.

So I had something else. Oh, no, I talked about doing this on the agenda and explaining. No point of information.

Go ahead.

I take care of your work. You said it's a mix-up. Nobody's here. So I don't know what's in your heart. I don't know why they're not here. Let me finish. I take care of your work. So I think going forward, it's essential that we as council members get to speak to the department head directly. Find out, not as a gotcha question, but just find out exactly where we are on certain projects. And what do we as council members, what can we do, you know, for us financial wise, see to their need. If we don't meet, if we never meet, then how can we assist a department's need until when we come back up to the budget and when we do our quarterly budget? If we haven't met with you all year and then you come and say you're short at that time and you've never came to a meeting and addressed the council and and stated what you really needed and what you need to run your department, that's what department heads are for, to run a department. That's right now. I go back to the chief of staff. I was saying the chief of staff is a full-time position. It's not a part-time. So the way it's written up in the contract, I know the way it's written up in the contract, of operations. You kind of run the city in the absence of the mayor or whoever. Now anybody know the term of chief of staff? You don't know the term of chief of staff? Then maybe you probably, I'm not gonna say it, but you get my point. So we need departments here because I got a lot of questions about public works and I don't need to be talking to second hand. so I can a person directly so only second hand because you know if you don't have department is it all stops with America that's why you surround yourself with comes to people so you won't have to just do it all you don't have to micromanage when you get it comes to people around and that's what I'm saying if you If you without department days, then we're failing the city. And we're not going to be able to ask questions because I'm telling you what's going to happen. If you don't have department days, we're going to get answers. Then we're going to address you, but America. Somebody's got to answer the question. So it's not a gotcha question. If you have department days, you need to be at the meeting. And it's called accountability. You don't duck accountability. You can't get praised all the time. You're going to have good days and bad days, but it's called transparent, open, honest, and trying to do the work for the city of Bastrop. So I think you're worried that it will mix up this time. So I'll see what you're going to say next month.

The only thing I would say is I spoke in regards to this meeting and this meeting only, and that's just me. uh given my opinion or reason why things are different than tradition packets didn't go out when they traditionally go out because of that people are not here possibly because of that misunderstanding which is unique to this meeting now i can't speak to uh other parties presence in regards to means i just know i don't think i've been

Since we're on the budget, we talked about line 483. Now the law firm, I think, received their final payment in July. My question is, environmental court was created through resolution or ordinance. So should it be abolished the same morning?

That's a legal question. officer i think still within the ordinances that the city council adopted so that position could be revived at any time mr jones could speak today with regards to the hearing officer in the environment in court and the activity that was uh proposed to go before the environmental court now being diverted to city court to speak to that procedure and process, I can't.

Okay, Mr. Jones.

What was the question?

In regards to the environment report, since it was adopted through a resolution or ordinance, and I know right now it's on hold, I shouldn't say abolished. Should we pass another resolution or ordinance? In fact, putting it on hold?

No, I mean, it's purely just There's no mandate to do what's just an option.

Mr. Doty? Since we're not going to use that option of the environmental court anymore, have any cases been brought to city court or how long is it going to take? from us not using environmental court to get these cases to a city court?

Well, I don't want to hot check Mr. Rick Smith's policy and budget time for that, but if you want to call him to that discussion.

Which one? What I'm asking is, If we're not going to do the environmental court, and we have said that we want to bring this to city court, then that means the legal attorney, the prosecuting attorney is going to have to stop and there is going to be some work that the prosecuting attorney has to do inside of the city court with those

say is that we in a budget policy area, if you want to suspend property, we'll go back to the city attorney. We can suspend it. Because I addressed Madam Clerk's original budget question. Right, right. And it's just kind of more on that.

Can I get a motion to suspend Robert Ruth's award?

I'll make that motion.

I say.

All in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Before you do anything, you're done with my statement.

We're done with you. Thank you. Mr. Jones? Yes.

Listen, again, none of these, none of what we discussed is anything about a gotcha. All of this is about the city, business, and being transparent with you. Listen, I can understand if a certain topic does not apply to your area. That's probably good to express that. But if we're talking about bringing these cases to city court, who's going to be in the city court representing the city? The city attorney would be in the city court representing the city as it always is. Right. Right. So again, then you would have Park in there, right? Correct. Correct. OK. I was just referring to the fact that it's all Mr. Schmitz. I didn't want to get out of the problem. OK. All right. I can accept that. But again, I just, you know, there's things.

100%. It's somebody from the city attorney's office. will be that whether it's myself or another city attorney, that somebody will be.

I just wanted to make sure that we got that understanding again because everything we say and do here, the public needs to understand and everything needs to be clarified to the letter of the law or whatever it is we're talking about. There needs to be no misunderstandings about what we say or do or who's responsible for a certain error. And again, nothing we say Is it that I've got you? Or, you know, trying to embarrass somebody? There are always going to be some hard questions that come forward. That goes with the territory. So again, you know, I appreciate the fact that, you know, we had to go outside Robert's Rules of Order. But again, I understand the distinction between the policy and the legal But again, let me ask this question and it may not be, I hope that you can give me an answer. If you are not able to provide, I'll just say the prosecuting attorney, if you're not able to provide services, do we, and who would be able to step in? Right.

To these right or on the phone prosecute correct? So, so. Mr. Smith services, or as the contract city attorney over dedicated, but contracts dedicated policy, but. also allows him, any person who transact with the city attorney, can transact in all those businesses. Now, it'd be outside the scope of what his compensation contract is, and then that would be a separate issue. But as a city attorney, the broad title of official duties as a city attorney cover all aspects.

Last question. If I go back to the contract and what the contract state, are we sure 100% sure that contract states that he is the city attorney?

He was your minutes. Confirm me. I'm just asking, of course, contract says I know what his confirmation environment. So you say it's possible that contract could be given from within the minutes the contract spells out the legal work because he was confirmed as the city attorney with his contract compensation scope work to be that he was going through performing policy budget aspects of that work the legal work so my duties and responsibilities were dictated by the contract not just because the way you read the charter the mayor duties and responsibilities

Mine is specific based on my contract. So technically, I can do that, but I would have to modify my contract because I don't have a blanket authorization like Mr. Jones and Mr. Peer.

The reason why he brought up about minutes, and that would mean that the actual minutes are different from what the contract.

No, no. I didn't say that. No, no, no, no. It's one of the same is that my duties are not broadly interpreted as a charter. Mine is more specific based on my contract. So because my contract with government, because y'all gave the authority to execute a contract with me, even though the confirmation process came through, it's just my duties and prospects were limited by my contract. I don't have the open-ended charter duties and responsibilities. Because technically, there's no prosecutor or civil attorney. The mayor assigns the duties of the city attorney, whether it's civil or it's criminal.

So his is just assigned to policy and everything. It's narrow.

My duties are narrowed to my contract as opposed to The general authority is given to see the terms of the chart.

Well, see, that is that big question. Because he brought it up about minutes. If the minutes don't reflect what's in that country.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no there was, he's not obligated by contract to do those duties, but he has the ability to, if it was necessary to do them, we'd have to then at that point there'd be an issue of compensation or it's outside. He's not by contract to perform those, but he can if necessary. That's the idea behind it, whatever you do.

And the idea behind it was to have a the city attorney. And again, I don't have the broad charter duties. Mine are limited to the country. And that's not designed.

Right.

It's limited to the school.

It's limited to the school. One more question. Mr. Chandler. I'm glad we have this discussion. When I say about the department heads, we need the department heads here So Attorney Jones is the city attorney, not just administration attorney. He's the city attorney. He's our all-out attorney, right? He works for the city of Bastrop. And last I checked, we bought a city. So my thing about it is this is where the problem is coming. This is what needs to be said. The problem is attorneys don't do a lot. a lot the problem that we started to see this happening is when we don't have a department who has often pushed us most of the time attorney general he's basically that's when i actually chief of staff i was asking this for a reason he by default he's taking on the role of a chief of staff for administration, and that's not fair to the city council because he represents us also. How can you act as a chief of staff when you represent all of us? It's like, you know, you're being our office reporter, but then on defense, you're their defense reporter. So it's kind of... It's a weird job because I've worked in every department head, every employee, every council member. That's why I say the administration needs, that's why I'm telling you, Each person, just when you say you don't want to step on Mr. Rickey, what I'm saying is if the department was here, you would have to step on by the tone because they would speak for the administration. And then when there's a discrepancy of something that's contrary to the law, then we both can refer to you. But if you bring in a problem to us as a chief of staff, when I say something, it look like Why was it bringing Hardin with the attorney? But in retrospect, you really is operating outside of this scope. You really don't transition over to a chief of staff. That's bringing a little like the me and you always be having problems because when I don't agree with some of the administration, you bring it to me and then I'm going to give you my rebuttal.

It's because I end up having general knowledge. I have knowledge of a lot of

A lot of people got knowledge, but that's what I'm talking about. When you get people around, everybody needs to kind of like, we need to kind of get in our lane so there won't be no problem. Because right now, it creates a problem like the last time when you and I were going back and forth, I got home and I was like, now why would I be talking to the attorney and he'll pretend he pretended to represent me, but I think he just represented the administration. So, it's not fair for you to bring things that Don't be controversy. Don't go create. I ain't gonna say controversy. Well, you know, there may be some problems and we all gonna rely on you, but how can I, how can I, let me put it a little simple. How can I argue with the person that the attorney that is representing them and that has written it up? You bringing a problem to me and we supposed to solve a problem, but you the attorney and you done written it up.

supposed to go on there when it comes to that particular thing right yeah how many times we got an internet or previous administrations i got that change or something that i probably have to acknowledge of that i don't need to be the first to probably touch this a lot i think that's where

we're gonna think we need all our uh let's log out let's bring like when you talk we need these departments he is here right so we're gonna have these problems all the hours

charter charter says that the mayor that is the original daughter i think it's like a specific one there is parks and he can he can if the counselor he can i'll get specific you don't have to read it i got i got i got all that if you cannot you write in the operation but we control the purse right so you get cute if you want to yeah it's it it gets down to If you ask them legally, can you mandate their shoulder? The Charter be cute and they gonna get other approach, but it's kind of awesome. It's always give and take everywhere. Y'all have powers.

This is a question.

Not related. Is that reason why we don't have any populated here right now? Were they instructed not to be here? They can't answer that question.

Okay. All right.

Nine. We'll move to section nine. Unfinished bid action on ordinances or resolutions introduced at previous meetings. Nine A. Approve ordinance 26-4287 an ordinance establishing a solar farm administration requirements and standards all in favor any opposed 9b approve ordinance 26-4294 It's an ordinance to authorize an act of sale by the city of Bastrop to sell adjudicated property described as parcel 01-105-00C-0004B. It's a lot, 14 foot lot, five and five wide, 30 foot lot, four blocks of Volk Street, Paradise Farms. in the state of the vision. Um, the set lot set the plate 21-5-35 in accordance with L. A. R. S. 472202 and authorized the mayor of Bastrop to sign on necessary documents and to address their matters relative there to the municipal address on this one is 18 commerce I see the buyer's blank. Do we have a motion to approve this? I'd like to make a motion to approve. 26-42-94. All right. All right. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? All right. Thank you. Go ahead.

We have a point of information. Are these the same ones that were on the agenda last time? These are the exact ones. Could we consolidate them? Yes. Okay. All right. All right.

Well, nine, if there's any peculiar. All right. Can I just say the resolution?

Can I just say the ordinance?

Yes. You have to read the whole description.

Okay. All right, we're going to move to approve Ordinance 26-4295. Mr. Jones.

The ordinance authorizing an act to sell by the City of Nevada to adjudicate the property structure possible 00604 slash 00 slash 00009 lot 9 sufficient for a 1.3 acre tract for the Johnson State Platte. Book 1 page 166 in accordance with Louisiana 5-47-22-202 that say and to authorize the Mayor, all documents into address their matters. All in favor? Any opposed? 9D, approve ordinance 26-4296, Mr. Jones.

Motion is to authorize an act to vote to be passed.

1, page 71, North 2.2, 242.91 feet on the West line of the more street North 8 degrees West 61.28 feet on the West line more streets. thus run west 166.8 feet to the east line of McPhee Street, thus run north with the E line of McPhee Street to the west line of the 50 foot from the center of the Missouri Pacific Railroad track and the south line of the Gillis Trail. to sign all necessary documents and address their matters relative thereto. Can I get a motion? I'd like to make a motion to approve ordinance number 26-4296.

All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. 9E, approve ordinance

26-4297, Mr. Jones.

An ordinance to authorize an active sale by the City of New Nashville to sell the adjudicated property described as parcel 00504-000-000C, colon, zero coordinates of the West Madison Avenue A lot in section 42-21-5E, 80 foot times 100 foot, described as beginning at 162. one of the Greenberry's St. John edition per flat in the material book, 48 page 345, thus west along the Point Pleasant Road, 80 feet south, 100 feet east, 80 feet north, 100 feet to the point of beginning being part of the same property acquired by these vendors former BJ Greenberry, as per Book 48, page 116. And, of course, was going to be in our Right of Statute 37.2202, that second, to authorize the mayor of the Batchelor to sign all necessary documents and to address the matters relative thereto.

Can I get a motion, please?

Second.

Thank you. All in favor?

Aye.

Any opposed? Thank you. All ordinances have passed.

I want to make a motion to put it on for me.

some of these we just went on this some of these don't have a buyer well that was taken out um again we were putting this up on the fly y'all have the information in one of your packets i just didn't have it to put the names on there that's not required that's fyi for your information for the council but i did put that information in one of your pack that had everybody i think mr dodie had pointed out there was an error that the name was done twice when we were putting it out to get it out on time i told mr jones just take it out uh i think the city council already has that information i couldn't put my hands on mine but that's not required i already have it so that's the reason why i was taking

Trying to make it simple. Because remember last time, they didn't vote on it because what the buyer's doing on it. You keep saying this, that you put it on there before. Anytime you put it before, put the buyer on there. So if they want to pay, we can pass it and so on. I'm trying to stop arguing. Because if you don't have it on there again, I didn't really pay attention. I paid attention, but I didn't really want to just be the bearer of bad news. Because I'll give you a starting order. You don't have to fire me next time.

I'm not voting for it. I understand, but I don't think that's why I didn't pass because I think Mr. Doty pointed out who the buyer was because he had the form. It was just wrong on the agenda. So you had that information, so I don't think that's why I didn't fail. But duly noted, Mr. Green.

I want to take it back. I tried to broker something. I think I'm on the council. I'm telling you, The buyer was not on the last time. That was one of the reasons that I don't know. I'm just speaking for me. I'm not sure.

Well, I think it's probably a great idea because then you can make it personal. You see a lot of people in the past, we never put the buyer name on it. So now when you have a buyer name, it can become personal. People can say that you didn't vote because it was me.

Well, I think matter of fact, I think Councilman Locke had a request. I know we put it on there because Mr. Doty pointed out that it was wrong because one of the names was listed twice. And I said, Mr. Doty, go to your packet. And he was like, OK, that's the other name. So they were there for your request. We made sure. It's just when I went back and added it, I typed the name twice.

We want the buyer information on there.

Again, the buyers were listed in last month's package. If they were not, all of them were not on the action agenda itself, but they attached the copies with every fire on it. It was in the packet. It was in the packet. Mr. Long?

I think the person I asked, I didn't ask for his name. I asked for the address of the property.

He did. I guess I missed both. Somebody asked for the name.

I didn't ask for the name. I just wanted you to know the address of the property.

My question would be, and this is for the ones that, this is for the ones that want to know what's the purpose of you knowing who bought it. There's not a question for us. There's a question for, because Councilman Green and Councilman Dodis did, they want the buyer's name there. So the question. You can't tell me. I'm trying to. But what I'm saying in the past, we never, because it's not even important. The buyer's not important at all. See, now we get to put a buyer's name and then we get to stand over it. It can make it seem like it's perfect. because the process is going to be processed regardless who it is so then when you get the time name to it then you get the phone whichever which way that's why I can say hey they voted me because it was me and that can create a whole another can of worms just me because if we don't sell it, we don't sell it regardless, regardless of who it is. So it don't, that's why I asked in the past. Ms. Angela been here and Ms. Block been involved and then us three have, we never put the buyer name down because I asked, why I said I didn't put it. One information.

One information. It don't matter. If you sell city property, all I got to do is go ask. Right. So what you're saying, if I want to know, property belongs to before I vote on it. All I got to do is ask. But you're not exiting the property. You're not exiting the property. You're exiting the buyer. No, no, no. You missed the point. If I want to know who's buying the property, all I got to do is ask. Because if they're buying the property, it's public property, and we're going through a third party, they can tell me who it is. It's no big secret.

No, it's not true.

Yeah.

It's not true at all. It's not true at all. It's not true.

Mr. Doty? If they do that, it's not true. If you put the name on there, it won't be no problem. But if you don't put it on there, it ain't no problem. Mr. Doty's name.

Mr. Doty? For clarification, Mr. Dickery, I was going to say for putting the name on there, what I am for is the process going forward, whether you have a name on there or not. We're going to go back with the lawsuit. What is the lawsuit? You don't see it. I'm saying, what is the lawsuit? If the law is not specific as to where the name had to be mentioned, then if it comes without a name, then we go ahead and do what we got to do because we can't hold this stuff up, keep holding this stuff up for reasons unknown. We got to go forward.

on the floor because when you the law states you've got the process the process of all the detail you need even when somebody started the judicature process to this point it's they you can't call an ex who because it is redemption period for them which means they got to come take the own when i'm in news but i was names there i never understood why we why you guys wanted the names to be there because here's why i say that because the couple times that people is voting though it was amazing like it was personal i don't think so if it was personal we wouldn't have everybody everybody know one of these names yeah but if it was personal we wouldn't have proved it this time but that's what i'm saying that's what i kind of see the world i'm saying okay

the address.

Well, point of information. So why not just do this thing? When you sell it, don't put no name on it then.

If you're going to be a known dog now, why put an A to it? Because you got to tie with

Deeds have the deed. You just said don't put a name on here before we vote. I'm just saying after we vote and they get ready to register, it's going to be registered to somebody. Is that true?

I think it's true.

What was the purpose of the name being there? You spoke and said you didn't call the county. I'm telling you, it do me no justice by putting that in there.

You didn't like me. I'm one person. I got my own opinion, and I pay for open and transparency.

Number 10, action on proposed new resolutions. A, resolution 26-2140 is a resolution to declare surplus property from disposal.

I'm going to ask that this be tabled until the September's meeting. I need to make an amendment to this resolution because we have to present it for sale before we dispose of it. And that was a step that I thought we could circumvent because the value of this was less than stated in the statute. But I consulted with Attorney Jones. to follow this step. So I'm asking members that we just take this to the next, to the September record.

Okay.

Can I get a second? Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? All right. The next one is, let's see, 11, planning and zoning business. Any unfinished matters that we have not discussed?

oh thank you um 12 discussion items items for discussion only which would be 13 i have a lot of pages 13 a would be resolution 26 21 41 which is the resolution it's a resolution authorizing the mayor to execute and submit any and all documents

the Delta Regional Authority DRA for the community infrastructure funding in 2026, I mean fund, 2026 funding. Real quick, members, this is a project that we're trying to get funding for. It is a project, go to page two of the resolution and look at the first two paragraphs. We're seeking funding through DRA. for the 2026 federal award program cycle for the changes and improvement project. It's on Cooper Lake Road to Saturday Drive. The cost of this project is lower than half a million dollars. In this application, the city is going to put up $50,000 in matching funds. The project application deadline is coming up, and this is one submitted application to engineers, prepared the report, updated. This was a project that the engineer presented a scope of work and the cost back in December. We just updated it so we can submit it for this application process.

I move that we submit the application.

I'll second. All in favor? Aye. Roll call. Roll call, please.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes.

Thank you. All right. Our second agenda modification is for our special call meeting next week on Thursday, August 20th.

2026 at 530. Can I get a motion?

Can I get a second?

All right.

All in favor? Any opposed?

So, in care of this. All right, our next 1 is the request for speak items. I don't think any of the speakers are here. 15, a quick question. I don't know.

15 is speaker on both of them.

Two different things, I had a light beam and all that.

Okay, I have a question. Mr. Jones, the request for the number 15 speed lines, is there any way we can place that back above the top of the agenda? Yeah, so correct.

Yeah, there can always be a question. The chairperson puts the agenda together. Right, right. This is a . I just do it as the chairperson chooses to do it. And sometimes I'll put them up there and I'll put it if it's a meeting or something like that, I'll put it up there if we have some issues. But I can sort of try to put them higher on the agenda.

And the only reason why I ask, again, it's important that you get public input And some reason again, you know, last two hours and they have a chance to speak and make sure that we give them an opportunity to come and speak.

16. Can I get a motion to adjourn? So I make the motion. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Meeting adjourned.