Vob Committee & Council - Regular Meeting

Okay.

You're getting it from both sides. I'm trying to figure out how this is supposed to be at home. You want to put your dad in one, but I'm thinking you two guys.

Pickle and everything else.

We're live. Don't turn it off. It's past 6 o'clock. Yeah, but turn it off. This is all we got here. Yeah. We can go, right? Yep. Foreman. McCurry is absent.

Can I get a motion to approve the minutes of June 8th, 2026?

We don't have a quorum.

We don't, no, we might not get it. So, we're going to see the visitors already before we do that anyway. So the goal is that 2026 keeps spending within the preparations, but we're going to find out here in a minute whether or not that's happening or not.

Okay, so the reconciliation, we had a bank and book balance of $2,542,945.78. Outstanding checks of $30,000, and of course, water and sewer receipts, deposit and transit of $1,745. No adjusting factors, so therefore, That's it for the reconciliation. Unless you have a question. Moving on to the checklist register. Last month was a rough month. We spent a quarter of a million dollars last month. 752,000 or 753,000. Um, The big one was on page four of $186,000 for the payment, semi-annual payment for the sewer plant. We have two years left on that. That's a big payment, $186,000 every six months. But like I said, we have two years left on that. Let's see, two next year, one more left, four more payments. Some notable expenditures also that hit us last month was Joseph Tree Service for 22, that was for the urban forestry grant, which we're getting in the process of getting reimbursed for. we're talking to the state so two three weeks you know that's good i mean i turned that form in last month so so it's been four weeks now that's good uh henry brothers general that's that was for the uh deposit on the fixing up the cemetery sign out basel that comes out of the that comes out of the 13,000 for a new mower. And on the last page, 27,000 to utilities. That should be the final payment on the water tower.

How much is that payment per year?

Well, the first five years, it was 69,000 a year. Then the last five years is anywhere from 20,000 to 30,000. That should be paid off. That was a deal that Terry worked out where we didn't have the money and the company agreed to take payments. Because that was a $400,000 project. Those are some of the bigger ones. I don't know if you have any questions for any others. But I was kind of shocked. That's That's the most I spent one month since I've been here. And I was just flabbergasted.

Since 2008.

No, I'm talking about ever. I mean, the most I think we've ever spent was maybe a little over $600,000 with the sewer plant payment. But this year, a quarter of a million. I was like, whew. That's the metrics. $1,940 on the Star Ohio interest. Collected $108,900 from income tax last month. 50% is the threshold. As you can see, a couple funds need to work on slowing down some stuff. We're meeting our revenue targets in the general fund, and I look at the list. We're meeting our revenue targets everywhere. Everything's coming in the way it should be. And then, of course, the appropriation report there with the general fund and street fund and water fund. Sewer of the pool.

Okay.

Did you talk to her? Okay. Nope, not right now.

There's two mausoleums. You can't say mausoleums. We're not allowed to say mausoleums.

We're not allowed to use all the mausoleums.

Yeah.

I mean, that money's just going to be there for years.

Yep. Is there anything we can use it? If something...

So why don't we contract that out? I was going to say, wouldn't it be cheaper to contract that out? You can't tell me that municipal employees are cheaper than some... Contract the money now and keep the municipal employees to do stuff for them.

Put it out for bid. We can put it out for bid this fall. Yeah, well, for next year. For next year. That's what I'm saying. All of a sudden, are you talking about that? I mean, the schools contracted theirs out for the same reason.

They learned by seeing what other school districts are doing that you can't have government employees. Well, we can contract everything out there. The grass. The snow. Well, I mean, there's just certain things. If there's 10 people in the phone book that do it, they probably do it cheaper than government employees do. They probably do it better. We can do that. Yeah. All of August, you might get mowed once in August. You don't have to pay if you do it when you hire it out.

I'm looking at the fact, how many people got on the mowing crew? Four? Three.

Some of those other guys help out.

Yeah, all the park all the parks all the cemeteries No, no, we took up we took it over in 2018 yep 2018.

It's not a bad idea to get a quote on that. We'll get a quote on it next year.

Yeah, we'll investigate it. They also mow all the facilities, like the wastewater plant.

Yeah, the wastewater plant. There is. If we took that out of that cemetery, that would be better for them anyway. Honestly, it would probably be cheaper if we subbed out more.

I was afraid that we'd have all this equipment, and then like, oh, no. It's not going to waste. It won't go to waste.

Here's a question for you. Did you buy a new mower for Descent Cemetery?

Mr. Bidler said he had nothing to say, but he's changed his mind. He'd like to speak. From past experience, okay, 1970, 71, 72, I was a clerk in the village of Baltimore, and we had a board of public affairs. Now, these two items that you're paying off, what was that?

Something to do with the water department? You mean the sewer plant?

Oh, the water tower. The water tower. No, that one's water, one's sewer. Yeah, the mill paid for that, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, we are. We are.

Absolutely.

Yeah, but yeah, I know.

I know. Yes, that's correct. We'll have to raise the rate because the sewer debt won't be on there anymore. When we will do that, nothing's going to change where nobody's going to get. So right now it's on the bill as a separate line item as a sewer debt. We're not allowed to charge for sewer debt if we don't have any sewer debt. Take that off the bill.

We should probably know at least within the next... We should know in the next month or two what needs to happen at the wastewater treatment plant, so we'll know.

Yep. It's our largest fund.

Yeah, but it goes to the general whatever portion. It goes to the general fund.

But if we contract that out, didn't we just buy a mower specifically? No. Cemetery? No. No? Okay. It was time to rotate out the mower. Okay, okay.

It was time to rotate out the mower.

Only a portion of that money was used to buy that mower because it's used everywhere else. So a little bit came out of here, a little bit came out of here, a little bit to pay off that mower.

about dotting every I and crossing every T when it comes to how that money's spent. We should do it responsibly.

It is a good idea to get a price to contract it out since we have that money to do that. I agree. But I would tell you that that money would be better spent fixing up the mausoleum when you're

or running a new water line all the way out to the cemetery and all the way back through town.

I suggested to Brian that we rename all of the cemeteries Basel Memorial Park.

Basel North, Basel West. Johnson Park can become Basel Park.

Basel Memorial Park.

So we've stopped thinking about how we can access that money. Yeah, you Yeah.

I'll make a motion to approve it.

All in favor.

Okay, the finance meeting is scheduled for the second Monday in August, August 10 at 6pm.

Motion to adjourn. Service Committee. Are you ready, Brian? Nope.

I'm still writing.

NOW I'M READY. ALL RIGHT. SOURCE COMMITTEE, JULY 13, 2026. CAN I GET A ROLL CALL?

PHILLIPS? HERE. FOREMAN? YES. MCCLEAN?

YES. EVERYBODY IS HERE EXCEPT FOR DEBBIE SHOFNER AND BRANDY MCCREARY. Anybody from the peanut gallery back there want to talk?

Service?

Service committee? You got an agenda? Yes, we do. All right.

Wait a minute.

Can we get approval for the – Can't.

Wait a minute. Yeah, we can. Yeah, we can.

Approval for the minutes, June 8th, 2026. I'll make a motion to approve the – Oh, we can do that? Yep. Okay. I'll second.

Okay, McLean.

Okay, 2026 goals. McLean. Yes. And you abstain. 2026 goals, five-year plan for streets, five-year plan for WTP, five-year plan for WWTP. Five-year plan for storm in I and I. Replacement of water lines 50 years or older. Village Alley sent over by rules. Both have been reviewed. Pending decision. Round one of Village Alley review west of Basel Street. Round two of Village Alley review east of Basel Street. Reports, Village Department.

Yeah, a few things I wanted to update you all regarding departments. First, with the water treatment plant, we did receive the OPWC agreement at the end of last week. That is signed and fully executed. Just to kind of give you perspective, it's actually we're ahead of the timeline for the Gordon Avenue project. Gordon. Yeah, that's the last time we got OPWC. Our timeline is ahead of that. We're ahead of where we were at on the Gordon project. I'm sorry, Matt. No, no, you're good. The Rome side water line replacement project V3 is moving this on the same timeline as the OPWC. It just kind of worked out that way. So we did see oops tickets today, got pulled, got requested by V3 for the surveys. New wells, we received conditional approval for the new test wells. We'll be putting the docks together, finishing that up, and then we'll get those out. Wastewater treatment plant, Vizia Sewer, continues to be on site. This has been a tough project with them, but they have been making good progress. I mean, they've been making progress in getting the... Storm sewer on the east side, camera'd as well as cleaned out in several areas. Nothing too dramatically discovered yet, but there have been a lot of spaces where they've had to clean out, so that's been good and will help with our I&I. V3 will take the data that Busy Sewer submits, and they've been submitting on a weekly basis, Plug that into their report and that's a big part of our next reporting phase with the EPA and the DFFO. Guys at the plant finished up the sludge removal from two of the five bags which have been completed. The other three bags just have to take time to kind of seep out before they can get those solids out of there. The Jacobs study is on time and budget. They plan a council presentation the last The last meeting in August so that's been that's been going that's been going well streets you should received in your council packet just an just an overview of what they've been doing. One of the significant projects that they took on the last couple weeks was replacing a storm drop and line over behind 224 North High Street. This has been a storm drop and line that's been plugged for some time, causing some erosion over there and flooding for the neighbors. Tim and the crew got that finished up. The owner is finishing up a pool project, a pool install, and once that's installed, they'll come back through and they'll pave that portion of the alley. And just a couple miscellaneous things. You might have noticed that the opera house doors were supposed to begin and end today. The doors themselves are in, but the locking mechanism did not match up properly. I think they sent the wrong locking mechanism, I think is what it is. So that's going to be a two- or three-day wait, but we'll get that done this week, hopefully. It does look good. I think it is.

Yeah, they're still here. It looks really, really nice.

Yeah, and they save that in one piece.

So the opera house is planning on doing something, mounting it inside to display it, which is pretty cool.

Those guys have been doing a good job. Pool revenue, this is good news. All this is good news, I think, but the pool revenue is up $15,000 a month. So we've sold a lot more pool memberships. Concessions has been doing great. The daily gate has been up. We added swim lessons this year and that's about $2,500 for swim lessons. So the pool's doing better. I was going to say great. We'll say better. So they've been doing a good job over there. And then Brian already mentioned this, but we submitted to ODNR for reimbursement for the urban forestry grant. As we get a little bit further through summer, the tree commission will submit to me a list of tree plantings. We'll get two or three quotes on those, and then we submit those to ODNR for approval, and then we'll do planting sometime later this fall.

I'm busy, Sue. Yeah. Yes.

No. And mostly that is connected with, well, it's connected with the, it's trying to figure out what the I&I situation is. And the wastewater treatment plant in V3's suspicioning is, is that a lot of that is coming from out east. And so the reason for focusing on just this out east section is to try to identify if their suspicions are true.

We received one, but they're going to get an invoice from us.

they took out one of our reflectors they did up there around holder road so they'll be getting a nice little invoice from me for that for eighteen thousand dollars um what were they doing over here on monroe street last week uh same thing is that was that okay yep they've they've been they've been just kind of chunking off pieces yeah what's considered east side Yeah, well, we've been largely talking out by the flower shop is where they believe a lot of it is. East of Maine.

And a little bit of this over here. Yeah. That it?

Yeah.

Okay. Park and Recreation Board.

Yeah.

yep so we have so yeah so gravers is in contract for the pavilion um once it's in well tim will make sure that all the stuff's plumbed in for the the bathroom but then the concrete will go down and finish that project out guys will finish out the inside of the bathrooms uh spires is supposed to be giving me a call here any day now uh sometime this week next about coming out and doing the half mile walking path that'll connect the pavilion with Gordon Avenue and it will just it'll follow the perimeter of the east side of that park all that's a part of the grant proposal and then the last two really the last two remaining things we have to do is some kind of a playground and then some like then some like yeah paving the paving the parking lot with some picnic tables and the trash receptacles and stuff like that but the pavilion was the big piece

a mess and now the parking lot that we put in over there is a godsend for the pool and for the for the ball diamonds because there's an extra 70 spots over there that was a tough vote that was a tough vote was it close well it's like it's like nobody wanted to buy it but everybody thought and that was just not going to work out. I'm just saying, the trees are huge and beautiful, and none of our other parks have big trees in them. I mean, you can't buy mature trees like that. I just feel like that is like... That's where the park ought to be, instead of over here in the big, empty field that we use. At least they would move the festival into the shade. I just feel like it's... That's true. The more I look at it, the more I'm like, that was a good buy. Yeah. I mean, it really was. That's why I say it's tough, though. It's like the last thing we needed was another park.

Right. But it was a

Was there any plans to have like any kind of drinking fountains at the park?

There was nothing like that in the Grand. Okay.

I didn't know if that was.

It wouldn't take a lot of people on the outside of the bathroom. No, it wouldn't. Because you're going to have water there anyway. Yep.

Or maybe those filling stations.

The Merrill Place is my sponsor.

Yeah, maybe put one on the outside of the pool so it's more localized. I'll look into it.

It's always locked up, can't get to it.

Right. It's just a water refilling station, right? Yeah. Well, we're downtown restoration committee.

There's no report. Well, we covered that in doors.

Okay, the doors. I used to listen to them all the time. Any old business?

Yeah, I got a question. On the goals, the village alleys, do you want me to remove that?

I mean, we really... Well, here, we're going to do some alleys this year. We bought that machine.

I'm talking about going through all the...

I don't care. I mean, have we done it? I think it did. I think the problem that inspired it went away.

Yes, the problem that inspired it went away. And we weren't really going to solve that because reasonable people weren't being reasonable.

And have we done any alleys at all this year?

We are planning on doing the alley that runs parallel with Basel Street. It's in really bad shape. And it's not just an alley, it's a street. Yeah, it's like heterodox. That little one that has the V shape? Yeah. We've patched it and patched it, repaired it and repaired it, and so that's on the agenda to get paved this year.

Is that a street?

Which is actually the street.

This will be our first one, are we?

Well, they're going to do that one, and they're going to do the one they just tore up by fixing the water. That one will be done as well.

And look, it all depends on how much money we have for asphalt.

If we don't have any more money, that will determine it. Say, do we ever do anything with the one there where the trash truck was tearing it up by hiding levers? No, it's gravel. that part that part may have just gotten uh you know what i'll double check on that it's been so long i don't want to say yeah we haven't got any complaints about it no

no and i think it's because they've been going up they've been doing what's right what they're supposed to do yeah but we've never used this equipment before though yeah we used it we used it late last year uh on maple street oh we bought the we bought the equipment this year well we bought the equipment to do the job the way it really needs to be done

They were just kind of...

And we got a good deal on that, right?

The equipment? Yes.

Yeah, that's equipment we need because to pay, Spire to pay that versus us, it's a lot cheaper. It has great gravel to it. Right. Yeah, and it does great gravel as well. Oh, it does that too.

Okay. So basically we can remove alleys. Yes.

Yes.

Any old business?

That was my old business.

Okay. Any new business?

anytime the village leases property or sells property, there's a certain process that the village has to go through, meaning they have to advertise, they have to contract with the highest bidder. I'm exploring whether there's an exception available in this situation since it's a long-term lease and there are the buildings, whether there are any fire code issues at all because of the size of the buildings, and whether there are any other utilities that have to be extended to the building.

The documents you forwarded to me were helpful, but of course they're just rough, real rough drawings and everything.

No engineer's plans or surveying locations for the building, that sort of thing. And I'm a little confused. I can get with you on this, but I'm a little confused because the drawings, some show one building, some show two buildings. would do any way they could okay so these are all different options proposals so the bottom line is he's still working on it i know they're anxious to have a response from us from the village sooner rather than later because of financing and all that sort of things yeah the bank's kind of waiting to see what yeah yeah yeah i hope to have some answers by the next council It's complicated. Lots of issues there. So anyway. Yeah, there's some restrictions on the actual park itself. Well, yeah, Rick, but I didn't see anything that prevents this type of improvement. I mean, it indicates that the village has the right to maintain the property.

And from what I can see, documentation,

Um, and when they accepted it, it hadn't been annexed into the village yet, but that was completed also. Um, so the, um, yeah, there, I don't, I've heard that comment before that the, the bequest, because it was, uh,

Do you have something else for me?

well i don't know that that's ultimately true i don't think that's ultimately true i think it was a it was a cited reason but i think there was there was a there was a lot more going on okay I talked to him, but it may have just gotten something lost.

They need to trim it a little better maybe.

But I'll talk to him tomorrow about that.

What are we talking about? I'm sorry.

It was a concern about the quality of mowing in the village.

Because they used to do it, complain to everyone because she's not doing it anymore. She only wanted to work the days that she wanted to work.

No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, that is.

Okay, well, that might be fine, but I've seen it firsthand, and I'm not taking what Peggy told me. or told anybody else about how it looks. Go look at all parts.

it's too much information five points five swipes off of the fence and left the rest where the golf

that indicates that the village agrees to maintain and improve the property forever, improve the property, doesn't get any definition on that, forever as a free public park. So one of the concerns that I'm looking into is okay, if this group is proposing to uniforms, bats, umpires, so they're paying for the service of the small,

I think we did have an assembly block where they charged $5 for parking and they weren't distinguishing between people using the park and people attending. They are now. Okay.

And because I sent people out there.

And they're not the only ones that have had that issue go on. I encountered it at other ballparks.

Yeah, we sent people.

But that was my concern. And then the front, up along Fruit and Fraud, or Green Gourmet, whatever you want to call it.

You're not allowed to call them that immediately. Where is it? Green Gourmet.

Creative Foods.

The box shop. The box shop. Out along the sidewalk, the rocks.

Aren't we needed? The signs, aren't we needed? The little park there.

Grass is growing. Boat Park. Boat Park. Boat Park. B-O-P-E. Boat Park.

Boat Park.

And then... You really will miss it. When you turn in...

On Water Street.

Water Street. Is that little benches?

It was an Eagle Scouts project one year, I think, wasn't it?

That's where Boat Park is.

And actually, you'll see people sitting there eating lunch sometimes, believe it or not. I walk my dogs.

Sometimes they want to just hang around there.

A failed bench. Yeah. Just saying. Yeah.

A lady who used to work out here would go out there for eight or lunch out there every day.

I've seen people sit there and eat lunch.

All right.

We'll get it done. Do we do an update on the east side here in service, or that way we don't even have to worry about it in council? Yeah, we got the time. We got the time. On our agreement. On what's going on with the east side projects to try to update that. I mean, this is service. We can do it here and not have to do it in council.

Not the development, right? Or the development agreement. Would we do that in executive session?

Everything else is proceeding fine?

Everything else is going well. CTL has been doing a good job of being on site. That's the one inspecting the... Yeah, they do Liberty Ridge, they do Fairfield, Missouri.

The only thing that I'd like to add to that is we need to make a list. What's the paper people send us? Needs. Needs. All those places out there that we take care of, the signed agreements, we need to annex them.

able to proceed with annexing the loaner property or is that having to wait for the game plan is to do all of those so the holdout

And we're kind of holding off on that until things have been developed.

But what I'm saying, like needs and SACS and all that, if they're getting our water and our sewer, they should be annexed in.

Right. And some of those property owners actually have reached out to me and indicated that they're willing. Yes.

Because it's not that much, but there's some tax dollars out there. Yeah, I mean, him hauling around on these agreements is costing us revenue. Yeah, we should just.

Yeah, but there's a strategy to it because for an expedited annexation, we have to show that the property that currently borders on the village corporation limits is at least 5% of the total circumference of the property to be annexed. So we need those parts. I'm not as concerned about that annexation as I am on the 5% rule further beats because the property that's currently owned, the acreage that's currently owned by Act Investments, by my calculations, and I haven't got confirmation yet from a surveyor, for annexation, but that opens up other issues.

across from the corner, they need to annex with us. We'd get that gas. Yeah, but we have to go in stages.

It has to be contiguous and it's not yet. But the indecision out there is costing us rent and they need to get off the dime and get it done. Well, I think we've got that kind of figured out.

Well, we are taking a couple baby steps forward.

Are we looking at anything? Was it canal? ways, cross the tracks, going in that general direction.

No one out there has expressed any interest in wanting to annex, and it's really a property owner-driven decision.

Oh, well, I mean, one of the property owners asked me about it. The first property out. If they're continuous, they could annex. He said he's interested. Flannery.

What's the last name? Flannery. Wouldn't we have to run water and sewer out there?

Well, that one property is already up. We've serviced one property.

Oh, you know what? We have water that goes all the way out there.

We have a Cherry Lane project.

We have a water shutoff valve at Cherry Lane. Yeah, the first one. As soon as you cross the tracks. They just have to express interest in annexing to the village.

If you send me his contact information or give it to me, I'll look into it and gladly reach out to him.

I'll send it to you. I'll send it to your email. Is that okay?

Yeah, yeah, that's fine.

And I don't want a cold call, and so if you can give him a heads up. Oh, that's right. I will. I will. I'd be happy to talk to him.

I'll contact him first. I got you. I got you. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, if there's nothing else, next meeting, second Monday of August, August 10th at 6.30, or a meeting following the conclusion of the finance committee. Can I get a motion to adjourn?

The forum makes a motion to adjourn.

I'll second it. All in favor?

Aye.

as we forgive those who trespass against us. It is not a temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, the power, and the glory forever.

Okay, Brian, can we get a roll call, please?

Carroll? Yes. Foreman? Present. McCurry's absent. McLean? Yes, here. Phillips? Here. Schauffler's absent.

Can I get an approval for the minutes of June 22nd?

The foreman makes a motion. We approve the minutes as... Soon to be amended by Phil McLean. Never mind, I take my back. Phil, take it.

I make a motion to amend the minutes that change the sponsor on the ordinance involving the transportation of prisoners to Phillips as the sponsor.

Do you second?

I'll second.

Do we need to vote on that?

Yep. That's Phillips, not Philip.

Can we get a roll call on that, please?

Okay. Oh, that was to amend it. Yes. So, yeah. McLean? Yes. And Phillips? Yes. Foreman? Yes. Carroll? Yes. Now we need a motion to approve the amended amendments.

Make a motion we approve it. As amended? Yes. Foreman seconds.

Any discussion? Can we get a roll call on that, please, Brian?

Phillips? Yes. Foreman? Yes. McLean? Yes. Carroll? Yes. There we go.

Can we get an approval for this evening's agenda, please?

Foreman makes a motion we approve the agenda as presented. I'll second.

Can we get a roll call on that, please, Brian?

Foreman? Yes. Phillips? Yes. Carroll? Yes. McLean?

Yes.

Okay.

We're going to move right into the visitors. Are there any visitors that would like to speak this evening?

Yes. Julie? Oh, wait. John Daft.

Hi, I'm John Daft, and I'm here to annoy you. I wanted to talk about... Say that again? Could you turn the mic on? It's on. The light's not on. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. Test one, two. Test one, two. I want to talk about zoning. I think that Ordinance 2026-22, abolishing the coverage requirements, is a bad move. And while I understand that sometimes zoning can prevent people from doing what they would wish with their property, I think it is a break and a check, and I think it's there for a purpose. I know it stinks when you're on the wrong side of that, but seeking a variance and going through that process is what zoning is supposed to do. I think it's a good thing. So I would wonder, are there other options to abolishing that lot coverage requirement? Could it be different for R3 as it is for R2 or something to that effect? Could the numbers be changed, percentages? Or could there be other options for people that are in that zoning or compromised situations?

I would think that'd be something that we'd have to discuss, but I'm sure that we're all open to different options.

Gray areas and muddy waters. These are my thoughts and ramblings. I also want to say, and I don't have my thoughts very well put together, but again, I'm again the Alt Park cooperation with the Little League folks with their building. And I can't exactly tell you why. My first response is, not in my front yard or my parents' front yard. That's a big honking building. But there's something about that partnership and that lease that just doesn't quite, I don't know. And I can't articulate it right. But I guess, do you open the doors then? Can other people purchase their way into the parks? I remember hearing at some point somebody had an idea about putting overseas containers in Johnson Park and doing food service out of them and a partnership like that. And I guess when this was asked of me, I kind of felt the same way. I'm like, well, I don't know. It sounds weird. Now, that's a for-profit kind of thing, and it would be a service. But I don't know. Again, I think it's an interesting... I'd ask you to do your diligence. Again, the folks at the park are joyous and lovely, and I'm not against little leaguers or little kids or any part of that.

Well, they're really not buying their way in with this village. Right on. They're not buying a piece of property to put that building there. They're looking to... They're just wanting a no different lease than what they've got now.

For the ball fields.

With the ball fields. Right. That would be... basically secure their interest for the next 20 or 30 years that we can't, once the building's paid off. The council couldn't say, all right, we're moving our maintenance department out there.

You're out of here. Well, but it is a lease for years, right? So that would be. They're under a lease per year, correct?

Per year.

Per year.

So they just want to be able to secure their investment. With a 30-year lease. A 20-year, yeah.

Right. correct that the village couldn't come in new council whatever and say you're out here i i get it and again my first reaction on this is just where they where those gentlemen told me they want to build a building i'm like man just move it further back in there but i get that's where the parking is that's where it's closer for infrastructure etc i understand their location when you get a little bit of time meet me we can meet over there and i can show you what

I think that you're thinking you're going to see it more than what you really will. That's what they said.

Well, and we could require screening. I mean, you can plant trees and screen it so you can't see anything.

We can say, okay, yeah, if you're going to do this, you're going to have to do this, this, and this also.

I would encourage you to meet Jamie over there because he's heading this up. And look at what they're talking about.

Yeah. I'll just show you what they want. Or I can probably even send you what I've got on my phone.

When we want to be good neighbors, John, I think you know that. No, I know.

I know it's all with the right energy. And it's all, you know.

We want to be good neighbors, that's for sure.

There's some of it that doesn't sit right, but that's all.

I think once you get all the information, I mean, not everybody has all, I mean, I don't even have it all, but I've got enough that I've sent to Jeff to try to, it kind of makes sense. I just need the reality part of it, whether it does really make sense or not.

Right on. Well, and then, again, it's on down the road.

You know, other things that need to be done out there that they're talking, you know, they would like to try to get an access to 158 somehow or another. They don't know how they can. That has been talked about. Part of it goes all the way to 158.

Yeah, it does. It was a state last time. Yeah, it is a state, like a turn lane and everything else.

Oh, okay. Yeah, and then what happens to that building at the end of that lease? I mean, it is going to turn into a village property, I would guess, or it's going to be on the shoulders of the village. Right. Things to consider.

Yep.

Thank you. We can lease it to them at that point.

someone else so I'm Julie Ward and I live on Elmwood Drive and the reason I'm here is that I received a code violation on its code violation six one eight point zero one Nuance dangerous and vicious dogs and hearing and I was wondering why I received this and I understand that the village has interpreted the ordinance to exclude electronic fences as a containment system and I was wondering why the village has excluded electronic One reason was we had an incident on Market Street if I'm not mistaken there was electric fence the dog ran through it and bit a child and okay so that that's part of the reason maybe chief you could speak to that well that's it was brought up in council and council decided that that was not a containment system so so I've I've had mine first nine years and I've had my dog that was for six years Now, there was multiple complaints. However, I sent in my email and I received from Matt that there are no written police complaints. I have three officers, because I live right by the park, go by my place six, seven times a day because I'm right there by the park. Um, I live right next to Kimmerer. I ran across from Mike and this, I can tell you, you're welcome to go over. I will tell you, the dog does not live on the property. The picture that I received from the chief was a picture of my dog on my property. Yes. I had the great big dog. And, um, I just, She is an adult, and that is her dog. And I just, it is, it may not seem like a deal to put him on a leash, but it is. It is because he lets him out a lot. Him running him on a line is a deal for caregivers and for her. And I'm just, you know, I'm, it's something that we've had. My particular one shocks for an additional 45 minutes. And so I know some of them, you know, you power through one at a time. So I will tell you, minus it continues. And he does... Anything that your dog... I've received one complaint. So I guess we'll have to talk about it because we don't all know not everybody knows it and try to figure it out We want to be accommodating but by the same thing It's an ordinance ins ordinance, but that doesn't mean that We can't Fairview. Elmwood and Park.

Okay, okay, okay.

Everybody knows Charlotte.

My grandparents' old house. I walk by your house all the time and...

I can attest. It's hard to separate the responsible dog owners that have that type of system and the irresponsible ones that have that type of system. And you can't write an ordinance to account for both. It's really hard.

I mean, I can say that also I know that I've had people in my yard that they have a fence and, you know, the gate closet got left over. Oh, yeah. And I understand. And I do. And I completely understand. And I'm not here to cause problems.

No, we can talk about this. This is something we can talk about. Absolutely. Yeah. we'll take it okay let's go into village administrative reports I really don't have anything I had I just noticed that the door on the Opera House looks very nice We're going to talk about some other things here toward the end in our executive session that we'll talk about. Matt, do you have anything?

I don't have anything to add to my report.

Matt, or excuse me, Brian, do you have a fiscal meeting? I have nothing. Yes, sir. Mr. Solicitor?

Yes, sir. Foreman makes a motion that we go ahead. Second. Yeah. Foreman. Yes. Yes. Phillips. Yes.

Let's just go right into Village Council and Committee reports.

Yes, Mayor, Finance Committee met tonight. Everyone that is here now was there then, so I don't think there's anything really there to rehash. Our next meeting will be August 10th at 6 p.m. Service Committee.

Yes, we met. We didn't talk about a whole lot, but our next meeting will be August 10th.

Yes, sir. Safety Committee.

They haven't met since the last meeting, but it's two weeks from now.

Yep, two weeks from now. And rules is, I assume, the same thing.

Yep.

Public safety reports. Chief, do you have anything?

Nothing, Dad.

Okay. How about you?

Anything on the Basel Joint Fire Department? No meeting tomorrow night or Thursday night.

Thursday night. Okay. Village committees and commission, planning and zoning. They met last week. I think there was a couple people that were heard and they took care of them. tree commission other than getting reimbursed for the trees that we planted. I don't think there's, there's no, no records there. Records commission.

We met on June 25th.

Yes.

So, um, we, we just, um, we just went through the Darcy too, and we're going to schedule another meeting after the audit.

yes he received his variance as well as mr. woods yep yep thank you yep with that we'll go tonight I'm sorry the trick of who trims the trees in town

mean so he does but if it's village trees right yeah do they yeah yeah so it's up to homeowner to yeah yes um elmwood uh eastbound from uh mill if you pull up that stop sign there's it's not a big deal i mean except you can't see

If they're in the right of way, our people do it, right? Yeah. If they're blocking the signage, our people do it.

The limb's hanging out where you can't really see. You've got to pull farther up. Oh, yeah, you shouldn't have to do that. Yeah.

Eastbound Elmwood and?

158. Oh, okay. Yeah, from Mill, eastbound from Mill. And that stop sign right there, and it's the house that sits there in the corner. Because if they've got cars parked there, even if they don't have cars parked there, you've got to pull farther out. Okay.

I'll call the guys.

I see traffic coming southbound.

Actually, I mean, dead trees around town are kind of a problem, too.

Oh, I'm sorry.

There's a dead tree that is probably going to hit something I own, and it's not going to be covered by insurance because it's been dead for years.

Where is it at?

It's north and west of my property line on a rental property.

It's on the property owners? It's on the property.

But I was going to take it down, but I'm afraid I'm going to damage the other adjacent property owner's fence in the process, and he doesn't get along with me anyway.

This is your personal residence?

Yeah.

Something that we can have Tim look at. Maybe have the tree company come out.

Usually the homeowner is responsible when it's on their private property.

We usually send them a letter to call the village within a certain number of days to give a plan. Sometimes what we'll do is we'll cut them down. If they're dead, we usually don't mess with them, but we can assess their property taxes.

If it was something I could get rid of without damaging somebody else's property, I would, but I just don't like it.

reimburse us okay I'll drive out tomorrow is it easily seen from the street very yes it is all right with that said we'll go into motion there are no first readings there are four second readings just say they can all go to a third reading The first one is Resolution 2026-19, a resolution authorizing the village administrator to request an amended certification to enforce the Ohio Building Code within the village of Baltimore and Fairfield County. This is sponsored by Mr. Carroll. I'm just going to go right down and read them if nobody has any questions.

What does the sponsor want to do?

okay yes the next ordinance is ordinance 2026-20 ordinance to amend chapter 12 title 4 zoning code

Appendix E, site development checklist plan for development projects and impact fees of the Baltimore codified ordinances to delete references to impact fees. The sponsor on this is Mr. McLean.

Yes, Mr. Mayor. This is pretty much just a cleanup effort. Since we no longer do the impact fees, it's rather obsolete. So this can go on to the next reading.

Yes, sir. Okay, next one is Ordinance 2026-21, an ordinance authorizing the mayor to enter into a contract with Fairfield County for housing prisoners to the Fairfield County Jail and the declaration of emergency, but we didn't do that. Mr. Phillips is the sponsor on that.

Yeah, it's just if we send anybody down there, we're going to be in a contract with them.

The last one is ordinance 2026-22 an ordinance to amend certain portions of part 12 planning and zoning code of Baltimore in order to delete the maximum lot coverage requirements. That's Mr. Foreman as a sponsor.

I'm not going to waste time preaching to the choir on this one, but we at the very least need to change it so that these small property owners aren't so negatively impacted because it isn't right for people at Holder Road to be able to have 27,000 square feet of employment, which is two and a half times the size of my lot. And I can't add an outbuilding because I'm already that close to my limit.

That's just not right.

Which we just did.

We just ran through planning and zoning again. It's got to be a super majority, right?

That's correct. It shouldn't even stand up to a court ruling on it, honestly, because it's proper. But, you know, I'm reasonable that this ordinance is not reasonable.

Regarding this, a public hearing has been scheduled for them in two weeks. Two weeks we're going to have the rules and the safety meetings, and then we'll also have a public hearing. What time?

six forty six forty five probably prepared to address it into there are no third readings are new table ordinances anybody have any old like to discuss that said is there any new business i'd like to uh... further consideration for the electronic fence uh...

Maybe we should bring it up to talk about it more. If I need to propose an ordinance, then maybe that's what I need to do. But I think we should discuss maybe making some modifications to that instead of a flat rule of electric fences, maybe a three-strike rule or a one-strike rule even. You mean three kids get bit? No, spotted outside of the electric fence that it failed to contain.

That dog had never been out before.

That dog could, if there was a fence there, the dog could have jumped the fence.

It has to go to safety. Yeah.

Okay, then I make a motion that we send this to safety.

Okay.

Okay. With that said. No second. Oh. Oh.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, former second head.

Yeah. I don't think there's a motion. We're just sending, we're just, that's something. He made a motion. Oh, okay, okay. Oh, okay. Okay. McLean sent to safety. Foreman seconded.

How long ago was it the kid got bit? Not true. But not by?

Not by that fence, no. No. Okay, okay. No one ever said that. Brian, are you going to do a roll call?

Yeah, I'm going to do a roll call. McLean?

Yes. Foreman? Yes. Phillips? Yes.

You guys got anything else?

You can still make it for a wheel of fortune.

We're afraid you're going to have a good idea, that's all.

Good evening, Andrew. Is Jeff Harris joining us or not?

I'm not sure that Brian shut off the recording.

everything off. Oh, 755. Re-entering at 755. From executive session?

McLean seconds.

Get a roll call on that, please, Brian.

All in favor? All in favor. How's that? Okay. Meetings adjourned at 755.

Thank you.