Architectural Review Board - Regular Meeting

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Adieu. Thank you. Very well. So we go to the first item.

The village of Ball Harbor received an architectural review board application for the development of a new two-story single-family home located at 175 Camden Drive. The property previously received two approvals by the ARB that were never acted upon. Now it's being brought back to ARB with completely new design and a new architect. And also I received written confirmation that all they acknowledged and they accept the 18 conditions listed on the memo. And it's my opinion that the proposed new two-story single-family home for 175 Camden Drive follows the village appearance code and zoning ordinances, and the village planning and zoning consultant and the Parks and Public Spaces Department has reviewed the plans and concurred that the plans comply.

Very well. The applicant is ready to present. Who's presenting? Yeah. Yes, so architect. Yeah, so you would have to step up and state your name and make your presentation.

I'm Bob Tuthill, the architect. And here's our sample board that Tony's putting up. Do I control it with this? Okay. So this is just the original survey showing the street trees, which I believe are coconuts still at the perimeter that we're maintaining in place. This is our architectural site plan showing the dimensions from all the various locations. The intent, obviously, was to capture being on a corner. We had a lot of property, but there's some pretty good setbacks. Trying to site the property, we're putting the pool in a good location where it gets sun, but it's also not right on a neighbor's property from a side yard or a rear yard. and still trying to orient the house towards the pool and the outdoor living space, taking advantage of the green space that is in the front and then the air space that's on the two street sides. When you look up to the sky and beyond, you'll see more just space than you'll see houses directly in your view. So that's really the orientation to see that we place the pool pretty much in the elbow on that right-hand side of the property. This is a blow-up of the floor plan. I don't know if you really get into the layouts, but you can see the living spaces are oriented towards the right-hand side, the lower right-hand side, towards the pool and the exterior. On the perimeter that is adjacent to side neighbors is basically bedroom spaces. Second floor, it's basically the same concept. We have a secondary master that's on the right-hand side at the bottom that's facing the pool with its own terrace. So that's basically set back even a further distance than the terrace, being that the terrace is on the setback. These are CAD-like. Elevation's pretty cartoonish or generic, but it's just to give the orientation of the building itself, really showing the fenestrations. I think the renderings do it a little bit more justice. We sort of developed in a 3D program called SketchUp where we were able to move it around and see it from all angles, and that's really kind of the best way to see the home. We have the entrance where you see the vertical fins near the center of the upper elevation. That's really the entrance courtyard, I'll call it. And then the pool area is on the right-hand side of that. From a security point of view, that's secure and walled off. The other elevation is... Trying to think of the angle of this.

Tony, you know what?

That's right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. The house is at an angle and that's what makes it sort of interesting to kind of see. I think we might have five elevations here. And this is the one that's to the neighbor that we were just speaking with and on the other side. And then this, the one at the bottom is on the other street side as well, the north elevation. And we have that you'll see coming further landscaped in and obscured the garage. And that's sort of what we did on our elevation here where we're straight on. We did an outline of the vegetation that you'll see coming up on the landscape architects plan. And we worked with staff to make sure that we got this right. We had a little bit of time doing it, but we just wanted to make sure. And we did look at it in three dimensions, too, as it moves around so that we obscured the garage completely from the street. Here's just some renderings, some 3D renderings, a couple of the views. And here's the required, just neighbors, properties, adjacent neighbors in the area. And here's the property itself. The house had been demolished, and it's vacant lot at this point. And here's the landscape architect's plan. And here, as you can see with the circles, It's pretty densely vegetated. Part of what we're doing is trying to get a warm contemporary but warm tropical feel to it. And that's sort of if I'm going to give it a design language, that would be it. And here's with the color. And I think you can see the amount of green space we have is quite a bit. And here's just the tree disposition plan for things that are relocated or removed. Here's the typical sections. And here's the landscape architect's elevation showing the landscaping. I sort of love the palette being that there's coconut trees in the neighborhood, just really coming back to an old tropical feeling with the landscape design. And I believe he's showing these all at planted levels, elevations, then just some blow ups and sections, then a list of his landscape material. And I think this might, what is this? Oh, this is civil plan. He's a civil engineer that we've been using recently. He used to be on Fort Lauderdale's staff in their engineering department.

He's very good and very thorough.

Very well. That concludes your presentation?

Yes, sir. Any questions, I'm definitely available.

Yes, thank you. So we'll have a board interaction here. Who wants to start? Want to see the landscaping? Any comments on the landscape?

I did have one question. If you put it back to the site plan. Sure. So the guest arrival and parking is going to be on the southwest corner. It looks like you have a lawn panel there and a front door or a walkway coming from the street. By the garage. By the garage, yeah. Okay.

There's also space on the other side of the front door.

You want to go to the landscape site plan? Yes.

Okay.

So you have a formal entry from the plan south. I assume that's south, right? That's correct. Okay, so on the bottom, you have the formal entry and arrival, and then you have day-to-day arrival on the top right. Okay. Is that just a regular lawn panel within there? I'm trying to understand why not enclose that, capture that within the lawn? The bottom left side, there's a lawn panel that's outside of the perimeter wall and outside the line.

We envision putting a permeable surface there where the grass could go through, so you could have guests park there temporarily. Sorry, I'm Tony Mbasey, the owner of 175 Camden. But the entrance will usually be the garage entrance, but just for guests. The whole Balcross is, I think it's three cars wide, so you use street parking also.

I think the landscape around the garage really effectively screens the garage. It does. I think that was the intention. I think so.

I have no issue with that. It's really the size that they specify if it goes in big enough to screen it.

There's a minor entry on the side there.

Yeah, really no comments.

No, okay. Okay. Want to make some comments? Any questions?

I'm new to the board. There you go. No, I think you guys did a great job with the landscape plan here. I know the corner very well, and the only comment I would have had is make sure that there's sufficient landscaping surrounding the property, but I think you guys did a great job. It's a beautiful home.

Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Gomez?

I think the house is going to blend well with the neighborhood. Just know, you know, it's pretty much – it's not something that's going to stand out. I think it's well done. It respects the site. I'm concerned or wondering what are some of the materials that you're proposing for the garage door? You have a lot of these panels that look like – I don't know what they are. I'm wondering what you're using.

This is a wood product. It's engineered. It's produced in Germany. What they do is they go through a process where they break down the cell structure, stabilize it so it doesn't warp and twist. Being that we're on the north side, we're not going to have a lot of exposure from the sun, from UV. There's a finish that goes over it that actually is very durable. Real good guarantee, but unlike the other wood products that we've been bit by in my career, we try to stay away from them. We love the look of real wood, but it's got to be engineered to where it's stable.

It's going to be cladding the garage door? That's right. You're going to be cladding it with it?

Is it one of the materials here on the board?

It's the bottom one there on the bottom right.

absorb the chemical that they put in it so you don't get termites and everything else. It is very, very durable.

And what's the louver material that you're showing?

More than likely, it's going to be a synthetic. I'm showing you wood, but it's being wood-like. And it's, you know, I have a photograph in another house that we did, and it's basically horizontal trellis slats, like a louver, so it gives you a filtered view and some privacy. If you look at the, let me see if I switch to that. Yeah, to one of the elevations.

You have that on the master bedroom suite? Yeah.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Oh.

In my opinion, what's going to make this house is the materials that you're showing. So I hope that at the end, you don't value engineer the adding that you're proposing. Absolutely not. That's what's going to make it if all that material doesn't go on it. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. It's exciting. We'll have cypress in the roof soffits. You know, we'll have likely either shellstone or a travertine as the, you know, the outside coverage of the stone. And the roofing? The white stucco. The roofing will be a concrete tile.

Okay.

A nice borel concrete tile, you know, flat. I want one more thing. My neighbor to the west, Ira Lulchuk's here, he brought up something last night to me, so I just want to address it. You probably want to get up and say something, but The top elevation there, above the garage is where a lot of our mechanicals are. They're below that parapet wall. And you have ACs, generator, and some pool equipment. So I told him we're going to screen this high lip, you know, more fully so you can't see through. And his bedroom faces or is close to the street on that side also. So he's concerned about the noise. So I'd like to put more palm trees there and probably put some sound absorbing panels inside of that parapet wall just to... Addresses concerns, yeah. He's a good neighbor.

Is there a guideline for the parapet wall? Can it be a little higher just enough to cover the equipment? And you're looking at probably a foot or so that you need to raise it.

But it's at the second floor level. It's not going to exceed the maximum height of the house.

But in order for that to be visible, are the parapets – can the parapet be five feet? It could be five feet.

It all depends on the equipment that he purchases. Depending on the manufacturer, depending on – Yeah.

That's actually the intent. And, like, we do want – We don't want it to be so high that it's being oppressive. It's a massive wall. But we're trying to get that line of sight. And we have the equipment. We're actually getting in the process of inspecting the equipment. We're doing pancake units for the air conditioning units. And they're actually mounted on the side wall of the house itself, which puts it further back away from the neighbor's property because it's actually attached to the wall of the house. But still, the parapet wants to be where it blocks it off. And I think to your point, we're right about over four feet as it is now.

You will be over four feet. By the time you put your stands, you will be a little bit...

Right. So you're both. Sheet A4 is showing the parapet at about 42 inches. So if you take it to five feet, I think that'll help, you know, the acoustics as well.

My one concern would be the windows. I don't want to put it higher than the windows because then it's a little funky from inside looking out.

So the bottom of that window, Tony, that probably is a bathroom window. It gets you close to five feet, but you have to sort of calibrate that. Because I think that's the best thing for acoustics, right? It's like solid masonry. Planting is nice because it kind of softens that more, but it's not going to contain the sound.

There's 17 feet between our house and the property line on that side. There's an additional 10 on his, so it's pretty far away.

Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, to go back to comments made by other members, I think the architecture is nice and soft, and I think it's the contemporary look that Tony has been looking for for this site. The site does have this sort of three-sided corner thing, and the landscape really adds to the softness. So I think the landscape architect did a good job in that sense. And to me, the most important exhibits are the renderings. You know, you've got two renderings that really speak well to the softness of the architecture. The material palette is very soft and elegant. Thank you. And I think, Mr. Tuff, you've been perfecting this language, so you've done a great job. Congratulations. It's taken a while. So, I mean, I think, again, the landscaping does its job and the house is, it is a quiet architecture that is sort of, you know, contextual to the neighbors. But it does elevate it, you know, in the contemporary language. With the terraces, the pool, I mean, the pool environment, the pool placement is fantastic. So, with that said, should we open it? Well, is there a public comment?

I'm going to add one more thing before you jump to public comment. It's a discretionary thing, but I'm looking at these and looking at the landscape plan. When you started talking about the louver, I imagine some of that is for the privacy from within that primary bedroom. The purpose of the louver is to provide the privacy for that corner, which is on two frontages, basically. So I'm wondering if it's a preference thing. So right now I've seen the landscape is tropical, but it is not providing really much privacy for that corner. So the views from lower, if you could put some taller understory trees that are like a fine leaf, like a... was it a stopper tree or something like that, it would probably actually enhance the experience within that space so you feel more like you're in a room in that pool space and you have a lot of space there. The idea is to close it off totally. I would encourage them to come in with some mid-story trees. So essentially surrounding on the three sides of the pool, the left, bottom, and right side of the pool. It's not really going to amend their design much because most of this is palm trees that's at a higher elevation, and that gets that tropical feel. You have a tropical understory. But having trees that kind of create a backdrop, they create walls on three sides of that room, so to speak, and that would give you a lot more privacy to that primary suite.

Can you put those elevations back for the landscape artists?

I think I'm going to. I think the elevations are in this way. So you see on the right, or on the bottom one, how it's so much more filtered. You can see the structure behind, but it's not totally obscured, but it is really hidden. I agree with you. And you look on the top one, you see on the right side where that primary suite is, you have like a formal hedge, and then you have canopy up over the top with the palm trees, I think doing some other... trees in that middle layer. Right now, this looks like you'd be standing across the street and maybe in the house across the street to get this exact view. Standing in the street or driving down the street, once you put that tree, that corner of the house would be... We'll do a collusia hedge where I want the hedge to grow to 12 feet also. Yeah. So it should be... So that would achieve it. Okay. Just friendly recommendation there if you want more privacy. Yeah. Thank you.

Very well. Public comments?

One person would like to speak, but before that, I put on your desk, there's an email from Nika Logan on where she has comments on all three items. It's on record. You can choose to read them or not.

Okay, so Nika Logan has comments on this house. This is 175, Kendham.

It's your prerogative, so...

Would you, each of you have it, if there's anything in the comment that you have any concerns or? This is a very interactive neighbor that cares a lot about the community and provides these comments. So she is saying that the house needs extensive landscaping, which I think we tend to agree here that the landscaping is good. And then that was a friendly suggestion to add a layer of trees, which I think will enhance the experience inside that pool deck area. Does she not like the design of the house? Is that what she's saying?

for her to provide such extensive comments on how they're reacting.

Okay, got it. She's concerned about not having enough parking for her seven bedrooms.

And, you know, I guess you have to... She's commenting as Nika Logan, not the president. If you want. Sure. Yeah, so the comments are... As a resident, yeah.

Comments were handed to Mr. Mbesi for the record. It seems like she likes the material palette. She's just concerned about if they're going to weather well.

Cypress is the best.

Yeah, I think based on the presentation on materiality, I think durability should be good.

We discussed the parking. We didn't discuss trash cans. I assume it was on the north side or on the top side of the plan by the drive. Trash cans.

Yes. I thought that should be on the plan here somewhere.

Yeah, there's always a concern about where you're putting the trash bins. I think it should be on the side of the garage wall there.

Right on the side of the garage? There's a note.

There's a note there?

Yeah. The white door on the outside of the garage door.

Oh, that's nicely screened.

All right.

She's asking about the mailbox.

It's on the front door.

She's suggesting that it should be in one of the columns. She wouldn't be a consultant? Yeah, I've always thought that she has architectural aspirations. Where is the electrical connection in the future? Is moving everything to the street side? The plan should exist at the time of building to accommodate that. Where would the transformer go? Transformer already noted on the side plan.

Is there a transformer? Where are you bringing service? That's our question. Where are you putting the electrical service?

The transformer is actually between my property and Iris.

Ariel?

So there's a transformer that feeds... That's where the new plan said it was going to be. I think there's new transformers coming in. The new transformer is supposed to go right between our two properties, I believe.

I don't see that in the civil plan yet, right? Suggest your civil engineer do some research on that and anticipate the transformer location for you. I think that would be a good thing to do. It's not in the civil, that's mainly a drainage plan. Site setback, pebbles also. No, when I turn the page.

She's got two more bullets on the back side.

She's got two more paragraphs. So, yeah, she's commenting on the materiality and some concerns about materials getting dirty. and also their resiliency for hurricane winds. Again, very caring neighbor, and you've got these comments, so consider them as appropriate for your project. So we have a neighbor here. Would you like to stand up to the podium, state your name, and state your case?

IRL truck 169 Camden Drive, living right next door to the property. Certainly aesthetically, we think the house looks beautiful, will help the neighborhood. But our concern is, when I looked at the plans, is the equipment for the house for AC units, the whole house generator, the pool pump, the pool heater are above the garage. to us seems like it's almost right outside our bedroom window. So we are concerned about potential noise. I mean, all I could do is, you know, take a little picture of my house and show this. So this is where our bedroom window is. So I don't know exactly the relationship, but all that equipment right outside our window, we were concerned about that. I know Tony brought that up and mentioned, you know, they would try and do something to appease the noise. I don't know what's available to do that. So that is our only concern.

So I think we spoke to that a little bit, but just to continue the conversation and maybe ease some of your concerns there, the parapet ball will reflect the sound back. Now, whether or not it bounces around in the space, it's like light. It bounces around. It's going to go ideally up. One of the other things... Anything that diffuses the light, landscape does this very well, or a textured surface actually scatters the sound and muffles it. So the wall will definitely redirect the sound, but if it subsequently bounces off the wall of the house, it's just moving up and out. But the landscape, if there's a concern there, they can put in larger or more dense foliage, and that will just reflect the sound and diffuse the sound. There's some manufactured products that do the same, and I don't think you have to be so elaborate with that.

We spoke earlier, and we're a good distance.

It's a good size, oversized two-car garage, and the garage itself is about the width of where I am to the wall over here. Then you have the property setback on this side and then his setback. And I believe he's not quite in line with this. So geographically, the equipment is where the screen is, because that's where we have the air conditioning equipment. And then you're where the wall is in the other room over here, if you see there. So we're a good distance away. We're, as you mentioned, open to the sky. The best thing you can do is have it open to the sky because the sound is going to make its way up. The sound doesn't go down unless it's reflected off the horizontal surface at the top. So I think they're all going to be good things, but just for Tony wants to be a real good neighbor, so we're going to go ahead and share a landscape plan with him. We're going to try to get his house what it is because he doesn't want to have this finished and have a bad situation for you.

So you have four condensing units, a generator, and also you have pool equipment up there. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, it's always best when there's a concern like this to actually draw his window and make sure he understands the adjacency and all these things, and also perhaps to provide the acoustical qualities of these units. We do know that certain specifications are noisier than others, you know, so be aware of that. You know, I think that you've got two condensing units that are adjacent to the windows of your bedroom. It's not the master. It's one of the secondary suites. So noise is going to get through those windows as well. So you just have to be careful because you're creating noise for yourself as well. So, you know, I think that's always a complexity because it is resilient to raise it and have it in the second level. Ideally, if it was flat roof house, then you have it up in the roof and the noise is even more isolated. But that's not the style that you're working with. So I think this is a good option. Vibration, you know, you're over the garage, you know, all these things, right? So I think, you know, you just maintain an open channel of communication with Mr. Mbesi. You know how to find him, right?

Quite well. All right. Thank you.

Thank you. All right. So any additional commentaries from the board? Okay. Somebody wants to present a motion?

And I'm sorry, before you present the motion, if you can just add that proffered condition and just specify, I think that would be helpful for the record, if indeed that paraprofet wall is going to change.

Yeah, so I think for the record, you know, the owner and the architect have represented that they want to race it as much as possible. I suggest that five feet is somewhere between, you know, 42 inches and 16 inches right now. There's a concern about the windows, and I think it wouldn't hurt to race those windows a little bit, you know, the bottom of the window to kind of conform to that higher parapet. So...

I agree. I think the parapet, if we're going to make it a condition, it should line up with the top of the equipment. I think the windows, right now your windows are really, you're not getting much of a view out of those windows. So if you could raise them a little bit and raise the parapet enough, I think it's not going to hurt you. Yep. Your bedroom, if anything, some of those bedrooms are looking directly at the units. So it's not a bad deal if you're able to accommodate your neighbor with that one.

I think it can.

We haven't spoken about this before.

We raise those windows when we put these on the wall. It's got to be on the record.

In the process of design, we had those windows lower at one time. And then when we actually got the equipment and we saw the height and put it, we needed some height to be able to put it on the wall and not be able to see them as well. And with that, but we had, it was sort of like the appendix. It was left over from what we had before when the windows weren't lower, Tony. So I think we're going to be okay. My only fear was, does it look aesthetically too bulky? And that was my only fear. But I think it's reasonable to think that we can raise it to some height between 42 and 60. If it never works, that hides the equipment.

Raise the parapet to match the height of the equipment or allow for an 18-inch.

Yeah, if we can say that, you guys are okay with that, and I think that's going to help your neighbor as well. It's not a problem.

Yeah, I mean, typically this equipment could be up to 6 feet, so we've got to be careful. One second. Some of this equipment sometimes could be as high as 6 feet. So, I mean, to condition it to be as high as the equipment, that kind of leaves it to be by the wall.

I would say at least, at a minimum, let's say 5 feet. 60 inches. 60 inches.

I prefer not to say 60 inches because the equipment is probably going to be about 3 1⁄2 to 4 feet. All I'm saying is a maximum of five feet. You don't have to. If it's higher than the equipment.

You get a piece of equipment that's higher than five feet. You're going to be only five feet. I would say a maximum of five feet. A parapet higher than the equipment.

Maximum of five feet. Right. Okay.

Yeah, and I think that will also work with the generator because those generators, you know, because they're also on a pad and they get elevated a bit as well. Five feet should be plenty. So that's a condition. So somebody wants to.

I would then motion to approve with the condition that we increase the height of the parapet wall to a max of five feet sufficient to exceed the height of the equipment.

That's profit by the applicant.

Yes. Applicant has agreed. And then your landscape suggestion was just a friendly condition. Okay. Plus the comments from...

I just have one comment on that. The generator is probably never going to be turned on unless, you know, the electricity goes out. So if that condition is all the equipment, we should probably carve out the generator. The generator is bigger than the rest of the equipment. That's where they're going to be turned on unless it's a situation, emergency, power's out, electricity's out. Okay.

Okay.

All right, great. AC equipment is going to be the largest otherwise?

Yeah.

There you go.

Yeah, and it's set back enough so, you know, line of sight and all that, you should be screening that generator. But, you know, those generators are always a challenge. All right, so motion.

And the staff comments.

Yeah, of course. All of building officials' conditions and review from zoning and building department. You've read those, you accept those, no concerns? Yes. Okay. Very well.

Do I have to amend my motion to include those conditions? Yes. Okay. So I motion to approve with the aforementioned regarding the equipment, excluding the generator, and further conditions as provided by the city.

Very well.

A second.

A second. Motion to second. Okay. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All right. We've got four votes out of four members here today.

Thank you very much, guys. See you soon, Bessie. Thank you. Good to see you. Thank you. Thank you for your presentation. Keep it these comments.

See that house going up?

Yes.

All right. So we have 131 Ballcross Drive. Next applicant is at 131 Ballcross Drive, ARB 2024-0021. State your name for the record.

Hi, my name is Boutros Benara, the architect for this project. Happy to present this to you guys. So I'm here with my client and this project located at 131 Bellcross is a walk you through. Currently an existing one story house that is slated to be demolished. for this new two-story single-family residence. And I just wanted to pause at this image here. And basically the concept or the strategy for this house is, as you can see, it is two-story in nature. Because it is along the front setback, we wanted to do strategies to kind of minimize the visual impact. So we kind of see it as like a three-tiered facade, where the lower tier would be this volume entirely cladded in a limestone that you can see here. Then on top of that, this element that is a rounded element that kind of hovers over and wraps all the way around to the other side, which we'll see. And that's in a fluted stucco. And then finally, stepped back from that is the second story volume that will be all cladded in the garapa wood that we see here. And to the lower two images, you can kind of see that the fluted stucco and the garapa works really well together. And towards the rear of the property, we wanted to orient it further to the front setback so we can really embrace outdoor Florida living with this project. So giving way to a lot of space to the rear yard and also what we call like this breezeway that you'll have like outdoor kitchen living and yeah, outdoor living, kitchen and dining under this breezeway with this element you can see in this other image. So essentially, that's the concept of the project. And in terms of the main entry, we wanted to create this almost like a seamless driveway with this material. So it does function as a driveway, but reads as landscape. And you enter into this carport portal, which would be like the main entry to the house. And again, in this volume, in this moment, you'll see that there's two planters, that we put planters in different areas to kind of like help soften up the mass. And really the intent was trying to, how do you minimize these two-story structures that are right on the front setback? So this kind of makes the house seem and perceive a lot more modest, as much modest as we can make it. So on the ground floor, you have your common areas, kitchen, living, dining, and the breezeway towards the top is just the bedrooms. And then this image can kind of show you where you would have the carport, your entry, and then towards the rear, the pool off to the side, and you get to enjoy this nice open yard. Bedrooms up top, simple roof plan. Here you can see the elevations that reinforce the renderings. And here's just like the material palette. So again, going with the garapa wood, the fluted stucco, this shellstone that we have. There's very few moments of smooth stucco, but it is there. And then the permeable driveway.

We skipped the building officials report, correct? Sorry about that.

So let us listen to the report and then we'll... We received the written confirmation that they acknowledge the 18 conditions and are in agreeance with them. It's my opinion that the proposed new two-story single-family home for 131 Ballacross Drive follows the Village Appearance Code and zoning ordinances and the Village Planning and Zoning Consultant and the Parks and Public Spaces Department has reviewed the plans and concur that they comply. Not a problem.

Very well. You're familiar with the report? Yes. Okay. Any concerns there? No. Any questions? Okay. Are you completed with your presentation?

I'll kind of just end off here real quickly. Just gives you a view to the rear of the house showing, you know, again, reinforcing that outdoor living. And in terms of landscape, you know, having this, like, welcoming landscape in the front and then densely vegetated around the perimeter as well. And I'll just end on this slide.

Okay.

Thank you.

All right. Thank you for your presentation. We'll open it to board comments and questions.

Can we go to the floor plans? Yes.

This is the first floor plan.

So it's a space in the back. Is that a parking space or is that just a carved space out of the back of the house?

I'll go to the site plan, which you can see in the top, it's just a carport. So there is no garage. Okay.

So you're accommodating two cars, one in a carport and one open to the sky, right? Correct. The one that's at the carport is partially exposed as well.

Say that again?

The one inside the carport, that car, is not totally covered, right?

So it's entirely covered? You just, you had an overhead line. You had an overhead canopy there. Correct, yes. It's entirely covered.

Yeah, I see that. You have a continuous canopy.

Let me go to the floor plan. Sure. You're going to have to help me out because I can't figure this house out. Where is the main entrance?

So the idea is that coming under this portal, you take these couple steps up, and that first door there is your entrance. So you enter into the kitchen area. So you go through the back through the kitchen. Correct, yeah.

There should be a pointer on that.

Yeah, there is. Let's see. Oh, there we go. Here we go. So you would, the idea is that you come through this area and then you can come around, which, you know, you could technically either use this main door or the sliders as well as an entry to the house.

To the second floor?

Sure. So then as you come up the stairs in this area, then you have the master bedroom and then three other bedrooms off to the north side.

What was behind the decision to deprioritize the prominence of the entry?

So, I mean, if we go to this image here to Right. I mean, traditionally, your entry, especially how we're doing it now, is lifting. You have to lift the house to the 10 NGVD, and then you have these, like, stairs that come right up to it. With this, if you push it all the way back, you kind of eliminate the idea of, like, this traditional front entry where you would go around the house, right? Especially since the whole idea is, like, embracing outdoor living, right?

You have a full rendering of the front? Yes. Of that position?

Okay.

Who's the owner of the house? You're going to live with him? Yes. Oh, you are? Okay.

Just for the record, he's also the next door neighbor. Okay. It's a lot that the house is condemned because it got on fire. It got burned down, so he purchased that. And he brought his new house like two and a half years ago, and then last year he brought, in addition to the second floor of the house of two bedrooms, and now this separate single-family home next to his property.

Okay. So is this going to serve as like a... Primary home for someone or a guest?

So my parents are elderly, obviously.

So the goal is for it to be... State your name for the record.

Oh, Eitan Zimmerman. I'm the owner of 131 and the house next door. We tailored it very specifically. So when I built my first house next door... I guess you learn a lot when you design a house. You know what you use, what you don't use, and you have a lot of things you would have done differently. we really sat down and kind of designed this whole thing. How it would look, you know, how it would look properly in the community and how I would want to use it. So for my parents, you know, for example, those steps, the further back you go on the property, the steps in the front of the house, for example, now that everything's a 10 NGBD, we have... an X amount that you have to climb in order to get to the 10 foot finished floor elevation. This helps a little bit by eliminating a step as you put the steps back instead of the steps being more forward because the property is now higher. My dad, in my house, has a hard time getting up. Like, just, it's four steps or five steps, I think, of my house to the landing, just because you have the crown of the road, you have to go up the driveway, the driveway's sloped, so you're trying to get there, and then from there. This eliminates that a little bit. My dad kind of trips up the driveway. Like, this solves some of those issues. And I'm just effectively planning for that as best as I can. I think the privacy and coming in from the side is really nice. My house has a very prominent front door. It's almost too prominent, if you will. It's all glass, all front. It's very different. It's very different. And I think this probably would work a lot better. It's just preference at the end of the day while trying to keep it with the neighborhood, make sure that it's a good addition as opposed to the burnt out house that's currently there.

Let me – so I tell you, the renderings I think are not doing justice to the house. I think the massing of the house, it's special. I think it's narrow. The geometry, I think it's very well done. I like that. So I'm trying to see through the rendering because I'm imagining something different. The rendering is showing very, very solid wall, whatever, but I think the massing, that's why I wanted to see the floor plans because I think it's very well composed. I didn't think it was for an elderly couple because, I mean, you have a driveway that has some material that I would have a hard time.

With the permeability, even though we built the house small, meaning we're not near lot coverage, like we kept the house small. But we have a hard time with driveway material.

That material, I don't think it's good for the elderly or handicapped or anything like that.

It's a grass paper, right? That's a grass paper? Yeah, it's a grass paper.

They're very difficult to walk on. And the other thing is I see that you've provided an elevator. But then the first five feet or whatever you're going up in steps, you don't have any.

That's a problem in Florida for sure. We deal with a lot of houses that you have an elevator inside the house, but the guy's got to get to the 10 feet to get to the elevator, right? He parks his car in the garage. The garage has to turn into the house from the street. So you've turned in at the crown of the road effectively, and then you have to get to the point where you can take an elevator up.

No, I understand. I think there are ways of dealing with it. We've done it. My firm has done it. So I know I'm concerned because you're saying you have your parents and the better you can design the house for your parents, the better it would be for them right at the end of the day. There are ways of dealing with that. So it's like, you know, you're telling me your parents, but I wish maybe you gave a little more thought to your parents requirement or needs. But look, at the end of the day, I feel comfortable. I like the house. I like the composition. I like, you know, maybe the delicate columns might not be in proportion with the massing from the way I see it. It's a very nice, you know, very delicate. The ones in the rear? In the rear, yeah. You know, they're nice. They're, you know, very nicely designed. I don't think they're very proportionate, but, you know, it gives a good feeling to the house. I must say, at least you're consistent.

We had thin columns in my other house, and it was the same comment, that they were too thin.

Did I say that?

Someone said it. And we made them more substantial, and it looked better. It was right. They were too delicate, like you said. We had the same comment.

Those are 8x8? Is that what they are?

Eight by eight? Eight by eight? They look small. So they'd really be like a nine and a half.

Because usually something like that, eight by eight, sustaining all that with the concrete coverage that you need to have on the steel, you typically end up with like a 10 by 10 at least. Something like that.

It's going to be something like that.

So you'll gain a couple of inches, which I think will help the fragility. You know, maybe 12 would be more. But, yeah, I mean, I was going to say something about that, but, you know, I think your language is a language of sort of minimal politeness and fragility, so it's kind of the language you're speaking, and we hate to impose on that too much. But, yeah, they do appear to be a little about to snap, right, Jose? Yeah. But you're not going to have a party upstairs. Your parents aren't going to be dancing up there, I would think. I don't know. You never know. I don't think so. But, yeah, it's a nice gesture for your parents, by the way. But that transition, you know, from the street through the driveway into that elevated area, which I've heard 10 feet several times, but I kind of see 9 point something here in the…

I'm sorry, it is actually 9.67.

9.67, yeah. Somehow this is so diluted resolution-wise that I cannot read the numbers, which is a consistent frustration that I have with Revit printing sometimes because Revit is so difficult to calibrate the line weight, you know, like we used to do in AutoCAD in the old days, right? So... It is an interesting problem because, you know, I experience it with my own mother all the time when I try to help her transition from, you know, steps and all that. And I give her the option sometimes, hey, there's a ramp and there's steps. What do you want to do? And typically she says, the ramp. So you have an opportunity here if you were to lose sort of the carport aspect of this sort of condition and extend that as a mini ramp, right? It doesn't have to be ADA slow, but, you know, Typically, elderly folks kind of prefer a ramp than to have to go through steps. Depends on how they start to have issues with perception of depth and things like that, right? So that's a possibility. I could see a nice little ramp sort of, you know, extending itself to kind of receive you and then you ramp up and you transition to the elevated terrace. But yeah, I think in a house like this, right, you need to be sensitive about those transitions. And I think that starts to drive some of these solutions. Because you're still, you're showing here two ricers in the floor plan, but then there's a site plan that shows a bunch of ricers. I think it's your civil, is it your civil site plan that is showing a lot more ricers In the front part? So there is not just a few steps. I mean, that's significant. That is, for an elderly person, that's an experience, okay? That is significant. And then you're transitioning down again. I guess what you're trying to do is put fill on the site and have to elevate the site.

It's not just that. The problem, for example, in my current house, which has the steps in the front, is it's very open. It's almost floating. You have floating steps, so you have landscape on the left where you can fall. There's no handrail. You have the same on the right. There's a handrail, obviously, but it's very open at the front of the house. This puts it in a much more contained area, which makes it easier for my dad specifically to be able to walk up. He has a much easier time walking up a flight of stairs inside a house where there's walls on both sides than he can walking in the front of my house that has effectively landscape on one side and landings, if that makes sense.

So I'm going to ask the building official something that is really not that related specifically to this project. It's more about sort of the context of Ball Harbor. Has the city obtained any kind of information from anyone, specifically maybe NOAA or the county, on what kind of wave quest or storm search event occurred? elevation with this part of the harbor experience you know because everybody's kind of planning for like 10 feet nine nine point something feet but if there's a true you know category five storm storm search has anybody modeled what that represents to to to the city

The county EOC has a model basically with a storm surge over category five is basically above the street level at least 10 feet.

10 feet. 10 feet. So that means that a house like this potentially could have five feet of water, you know, from its lower elevation.

That's at a worst-case scenario at a Category 5 with a high tide at a... Right, worst-case scenario. Yeah, worst-case scenario. Which could happen, right? Which could happen, unfortunately. Am I creating too much trouble here? Natural disaster. Yeah.

After a disaster. Questions like this lead to trouble.

But FEMA's map requires it. The base flood is at eight. So we have the base flood plus one plus the conversion factor that it's the 9.67. So that's why we push that. If they want to go above, there's other houses that they've gone above. At 12, at 11, that's recommended, but it's not required.

Right, so I think you and I have had this conversation. So I think overall we're under-designing for the potentiality of these storm events, right, which is unfortunate, right, because this is just one example.

Yeah, countywide.

Yeah, but this is a coastal city.

Nobody's held to that model that the city that the county does to be able to, that's how they evacuate municipalities, that these areas have to be evacuated because of that possible storm surge.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I'm sure, I mean, Ball Harbor gets evacuated before a storm, right? So it's an evacuation zone, so your parents wouldn't be in the house. It's not a life-saving... My dad would probably stay and see what happens.

He'd probably stay. I'll live to see...

so that's always a concern but you know it's a little comment that you know i'd like to have discussion with the board about because you know i know that the the city changes ordinance that allows you to elevate you know the ground level now the formulation change uh about three years ago i think but i see architects not really pushing the limit right because again there are these concerns nobody wants to elevate more than what they have to right

I think, unless my understanding is wrong, I mean, I would elevate. So there's a challenge of accessibility, right? If you elevate too much, there's more steps. For me, it's not a problem. For elderly, it could be. You're also capped at a max height for the structure itself. So when you start going above your 9.67, you're shrinking significantly. your ceiling height internally. So if we go to 12 feet, right, which would be more challenging to access, then I'm losing three more feet, two and a half more feet of ceiling height within the structure, right? And that might not be a big deal, but there's a lot of negatives that go along with it. Maybe the people that do it would be much, would be more content, you know, if there is a storm surge of 10 feet, they'd be happy that there are 12. But we have to, you know, I have to try to weigh everything. Like my parents right now are at seven and a half feet.

Right. No, this is better.

This is two feet higher, and they're on the water in Keystone.

So it's probably worse. Well, it's a general comment, and we have proven it because, you know, we've got active projects in the island that, you know, conforming to all these regulations and elevating. You know, like I have a house that's about 12 or 13 feet at the lower level, and it's better than 10, better than, you know, some minimums. That's all right. Because, you know, the Florida Building Code is not adequate, is not adequate for this type of event, I think, even though it says, you know, FEMA plus one. We know that the FEMA maps are changing as well and advancing and so on. But the concern overall, you know, for us, you know, as a board here serving this community, is to keep on pushing the idea of a real simulation of storm surge impact on these islands because it really informs some of these decisions and some of these valuable decisions. And we're looking at houses sometimes here that are 15,000, 20,000 feet in square footage. This is a very modest, beautiful home for your parents. But, yeah, it impacts insurability in the future. Insurance companies are going to be looking at where are you with this and what's the risk and what's the cost to insure this, right? So that becomes an issue. But back to the basics, we have public comments, right?

So we have – Yeah, I just want to add a couple things and bring this home. You have a great son, so I hope I can build a home for my parents one day next door. I think it's also important – this house is very, very similar to his existing structure next door. So if you put his large structure in one lot, smaller structure on another lot – It looks great. I wish the rest of the board can see your other home as well because they definitely complement each other well. They complement each other very well.

It's currently under construction.

And then also, let's take into consideration, this is probably going to be one of the last homes built, not maximized for lot coverage in the neighborhood. Everybody's trying to build these oversized homes. I'm doing one as well. So it's very refreshing that you're not maximizing the structure. You're maximizing the green space. So I think that with your existing home and this home next to it, it's going to look very nice.

I appreciate that. I mean, it's a financial, you know, it's not something, I'm a developer, like real estate. I'm undertaking a very expensive project without maximizing any, you know, you could go 7,000 feet, something like that, and I'm not. What's the square footage of the house now? 30. 3,500. 3,500. Yeah.

It's very, very modest. Very well. Okay. Understood. Could I read some of the comments from the neighbor here? Yeah.

She's not here, though.

So, of course, she loves this. What a pleasant surprise to see an architect that actually has included grass in their plan in a home that has not taken up the entire property.

She gave you something. There you go.

I found the plans difficult to read. So, yeah, I second that motion. And I have that problem in my office all the time with rabbits and all these things that are technical. Wood in South Florida does not tend to weather well, so she's concerned about the material palette, you know, and we all struggle with that. So I'm sure you have a solution to that.

We've done really well with the garappa and a marine grade. It's treated with a marine grade protector. Is that a hardwood? I'm sorry?

Is that a hardwood? Yeah, super high.

Yeah, so it's a hardwood. It's Brazilian, it's very... Brazilian hardwood, and it's treated, so it should be very, very well. It'll be there for a century or so. You'll have water problems before that wood deteriorates. We are example along the ball bay where the wood has not been maintained, so it's just relating to the fact that sometimes these woods, depending on the exposure to the sun, they also weather badly. If you have a four-bedroom home, there should be five cars. So she's thinking you don't have enough parking, and then it kind of flows over to the neighborhood, which I think is a concern here in Bell Harbor. in general because most of these houses don't have enough parking. I don't know what happens when somebody has to party. Of course, your parents are not going to party too much, but I don't know. Perhaps they'll party. Where are the trash cans? So the trash can issue and, of course, the mailbox. There should be a plan for a transformer, so the transformer issue is a concern always in these projects. The pool invades the rear setback where also you may have some kind of setback invasion. But, you know, I think that this conforms with all the zoning criteria as the building official has reported. So everything conforms with village regulations. And with that said, should we put a motion forward on this?

Everyone's looking at me.

don't know why i'm looking at you maybe i should look at jose over here i i can't say you know that i i'm really uh pleased to see this house because it's out of the box compared to everything that we've seen so far today i think architecturally uh you really you know the form is very minimalist i i think i i i I can't stand the renderings because they're not showing what I think is the design. I think the design is much better than the renderings. I think you need to take a look at those columns. I don't know if they're made out of what material they're going to be.

The concrete was stucco, no?

It looks like they want to be something else because, you know, they're a separate element from the house. They don't look like it's part of the house. It's like intentionally. Again, you know, the proportion of that rendering is not what you have on the front elevation. The front elevation is wider. If you were to get that proportion, I think, you know, you look at that and you look at the work of Louis Kahn and You know, how it's narrow and you're kind of opening into a big space. I mean, it's really special, that space. But it's not really well rendered. I don't think it's well rendered. But so I, you know. I really like the house. Little details, I think you need to, in my firm, we're having an issue with a terrace similar to that. How do we drain it? And the client, obviously, like your client here, probably is not going to want to see the little pipes outside. So how do you drain this and still maintain it? that beautiful clean design is that going to be a pipe that you're going to run inside this lab you seem to have about i don't know 18 inches you're showing a space so maybe you know you do internal drain because later on it's going to look terrible when you build this beautiful minimalist clean elevator it's just it's in this lab So, you know, those are the little details when a house is such a minimal, clean design. You have to think of all those little details because at the end, you'll be in shock. You won't be able to find, well, how do I drain this?

Well, it'll ruin the finesse of the design.

It'll ruin the cleanness of the house.

On that note, I'm sorry. very big on all of those things. So even I don't even allow the electrical panels to have conduits that nothing drives me more crazy than a brand new house with an electrical panel and the conduit comes up from the ground. Like you can see the conduit when it's been built into the structure. Same thing with the drainage and the plumbing. It all goes inside.

You don't want to see it. I see the intent of the architect and I think that...

When I see the section, he has a section here that shows that there's some depth there to recess the drainage. But then how you bring it down becomes an issue because you've got very slinger columns and I get engineers to put pipes inside these columns all the time but the column has to be you know like in a case like this like 14 by 14 or something like that in order for the pipe not to uh affect the structural integrity so there's a little bit of um design development there of course um and then another concern is the equipment you got mechanical equipment on the second floor on on the terrace you know just being covered by a very polite railing and i i suspect that that that mechanical equipment may be seen

More than what you care the way we're using very specific mechanical equipment. They were talking a lot about it And you know, I mean, it's very low to the ground. There's train makes a lot of different equipment that is specialty for that They're not big square condensers that are this high there. They're like this and they sit against the wall You know three feet max. We just used them in another project. They're very quiet. All right, they look very nice like there's There are solutions for all that. It would cost a little bit more, but it's part of what we're doing.

Yeah, because that certainly would be unpleasant to see that, but you got that covered. So you got a good collaboration with your architect, and I like the loyalty to a sensible, talented architect. So, yeah, so I think… What's the roofing?

What's the roofing material? The barrel tile.

He's got Spanish barrel tile, I think, is what he showed in the mood board there. Yeah, he's got it on the rendering. And that's a tone.

I mean, this looks a little whiter because he's got dust on it. Right. But this is it.

Yeah, yeah. Okay, great. Any further questions or recommendations?

Regarding the treatment of the water coming off the canopy, coming off the big canopy, you have that huge lanai, that huge covered area. And I think it's such a shame in our climate that we don't celebrate the water. The rain events here, it's a thing. It's a big thing. Experience and being out in that space, I would imagine. It will be used with as deep as it is, and you'll have a lot of rain cover. So being out and experience, like, the torrential downpour is, I think, a cool experience that our architecture doesn't celebrate. Well, and normally it's like, put it in a pipe, make it make it kind of go away. But you see in like the southwest architecture, they have the canards, which are these long extended scuppers, basically, that project the water out away from the building so you don't have the mildew. But if that's treated in a way where there's a garden or some place below that's designed to receive a deluge of water, it becomes like a feature. So in a rain event, you have like a rain garden. Because a lot of it seemed kind of like Japanese, like bonsai effect in Japan. even the architecture and some of the spaces in the front so i think something like that would be a cool experience for that lanai and a rain event to just sit there and watch volumes of water fall in a space that's made to receive it interesting it's a good idea so friendly recommendation there okay should we entertain a motion

I move to approve with the conditions by the building official.

Any additional conditions from the board?

I don't have any additional condition to add to the motion.

You don't want to elevate this to 15 feet or anything like that?

I'll leave that up to you. Just kidding.

Just kidding. He's a developer. He knows what he's doing.

If I get five more feet of ceiling height and an outdoor elevator, I guess.

That's the resiliency challenge. Everyone wants taller buildings in their communities. But then again, you know, storm surge and climate change is happening. So you put out the motion. Is there a second? Second. Okay. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye.

Congratulations. Thank you.

Thank you. Great presentation.

Pay attention to the detail because it's a nice really thing. We'll be in charge. Thank you.

You can do it on the record, though. Oh, this is... On the record, recuse yourself.

You can stay.

You can be in the comfort of your chair here. I have to recuse myself. The next project is from my firm, so I'll leave you...

Thank you, Mr. Gomez. All right, so I guess we should start with the building official report. Yes, a little restroom break. Okay.

to the Hotel Congo Hotel.

Yes, so, you know, storm surge simulation, you know. You go to Amsterdam?

My house is, I think, the base elevation is pretty high. Yeah. The worst that we've had in the existing house was... It was bad earlier last year.

Yeah, but look at that. Look at that image there. Imagine a category five storm coming through there.

It's a game changer.

It's a game changer. Yes.

But it'll happen, and then we'll change the code. Back in business. Okay.

Very well. So the applicant for 102.95 Collins Avenue, Benison Gomez Architects, Mr. Gomez, who sits on the board, has stepped down to have his firm make this presentation. Go ahead and state your name. Oh, wait a second. We're going to do the building official report first, as it should be.

Basically, the village received an architectural review board application for the proposed exterior yard amenities and renovations on the oceanfront and the existing multifamily condominium of residence at 1 Bar Harbor, located at 10295 Collins Avenue. I received written confirmation that they acknowledge the eight conditions and are in agreeance with them. And it's my opinion that proposed existing renovation and yard amenities for the 102-95 Collins Avenue building follows the village appearance code and zoning ordinances. The village planning and zoning consultant and parks and public space department has reviewed the plans and concur that they comply. Thank you.

Pretty well. The applicant, state your name and make your presentation, please.

My name is Elvis Benton. Our office is at 8101 Biscayne Boulevard.

Is the mic working?

I'm not sure. Check room. Got to get more intimate with it. Okay. Name is Elvis Benton, and our office is at 8101 Biscayne Boulevard. And here is the interior designer, so I'm going to let him present. Good afternoon, everybody.

I am Peter Higney with Higney International. Pleasure to be here. Thank you, Peter. Thank you.

Yeah, the property is located at 102.95 Collins Avenue, and basically the scope is the improvement of the existing amenities. It's at 300 plus units, so it's good to improve the amenities within the area that is existing. So this is our aerial views of the property. So to have... better understanding. This is the existing pool and basically concentrated on the north portion of the property. The existing pool, the deck, and the landscape area. Same here, another views of an existing condition. Here is the comparison between the existing and the proposed. And we have a couple of data related to the paved area, the water area, and the landscape. So you can see that those numbers are not jumping that much. It's a minor variation from the existing. Even though, as you can see, the south portion, we are proposing a new pool and expanding the deck area. This is another diagram that shows we are meeting the landscape requirement for the entire lot. Now we can see the renderings. This is the proposed overall design of the area. This is a view from the northeast corner. Another view here of the proposed design. And we're going to go in depth about the materials later on the presentation. This is a new architectural feature that we're bringing to connect the ground level and the second level. This is a monumental stair. It's a point of interest that we're bringing to the property. It's a concrete stair with planting. More views. This is the south portion where the new pool deck is and the new pool. This is the new pool proposed to the south portion of the amenity. This is another view from the north portion looking to the existing pool and the bar that is in the middle connecting the south portion and the north portion. A view of the bar that is in the middle of the two sections. So it has a shared structure, an aluminum shared structure. So at the area of the scope, so you can see here is the, this is the site plan where you can see the entire property. And the area in red is the existing amenity of the building, of the hotel condo building. So this is where all the scope is happening. A close-up of the existing condition. So you have the north portion that you're going to see compared with the proposed. It's not changing much. And the south portion where we are adding the new pool. This is the proposed, the same. It's within the same footprint of the existing amenities. So now you can see that on the north is the same pool, the same footprint. just adding a spot. And to the east of the existing pool, you're going to see that we are adding another barn just to be able to put more furniture. In the middle is located the bar connecting the north and south portion. It's an ideal location for the bar. So on the south is where the paved area is being expanded a little bit, and we are adding the pool. So this is a close-up of the north section of the proposed. It's the same shape for the pool. We are not touching the pool except adding on the north corner the new spa. More area for furniture in the middle section is just a closer look to the bar area with outdoor seating area. And on the south portion is the extended deck with the furniture layout and the pool. Everything is surrounded by landscape and the hedge of landscape to provide some kind of privacy to that area. This is just elements based on the shop drawings for the shaded structure on top of the bar. Same, this is more detail for the stair. It's a concrete stair with a planter. So to have a green look and soft lines. It's a sculptural piece we want to bring as an architectural feature connecting the deck to the second level. This is rendering. And I think we get to the point where the interior design can go over the materials, so the papers, the material for the stair, and overall throughout all the proposed concepts.

Thank you. The design element is more evolutionary than revolutionary here. We're not modifying the existing pool itself and the area directly around it is not really modifying to a great extent other than providing additional space for chaise lounges. The floor paver that we're selecting for this particular area is a shellstone. It's a coral reef shellstone, 24 by 24, and it's a brushed shellstone. And we also have a porcelain floor tile, which will exist in the southern area the extended area with the pool. And if you want, we could, yeah, thank you very much. The other additions that we've proposed is to create more shade for the existing F&B area. So we've designed a pergola, which will be constructed of aluminum and with aluminum top. The cladding on it will be an epi-Brazilian wood, so it'll be durable and long-living. There's a good image of it right there. And architecturally, it's following the lines of the pool that is already a beautiful pool to keep. Inside, we have an island bar. And on the front of the island bar, the cladding is a porcelain green tile with a decked-on top. We can go to the reception if you would like. In the reception, we have a floor basket weave tile with a eucalyptus 3D tile on the wall with a slim stone synthetic front for the reception desk. And on the left-hand side, we have a lofa 3D tile, which is constructive porcelain as well. From the roof, we have full grass hanging down, along with some pin lighting to highlight the area during the evenings. We can move on to the next slide.

I think that's the end of the presentation.

I've provided the materials here today, and if you have questions, I'm open to answering anything that you might be thinking of.

Okay. Quick question. Did you not present something in the same project a few months ago?

Yeah, it was a property to the south.

Oh, so it's a separate property, not the same property.

They have like a lease agreement to use that portion. Gotcha. But it's by its own. I see, I see. It's the addition of the seven or six.

Does it look like a similar area, so it's adjacent to it? It's very close, yeah.

Yeah, if you go to the overall floor plan, it's to the south. Okay. Yes, yeah, understood. Okay. Okay.

All right. Well, board comments?

What is the material between the existing chase lounge rows on the existing pool to the north? I'm sorry, I stepped up. What is the existing material in the walkways adjacent to the chase lounge rows?

Oh, so that is also the... That is the basket weave sandstone that we have. So this is an example of the sandstone here. It's a little bit smaller than what we'll actually wind up with. Probably the proportion of it will be a little bit larger than this simply because we find that getting this level is an arduous task. So we'll probably go with a slightly larger one. But this is also, this is the majority of the space here, which I think is somewhere around 7,000 or 6,000, 7,000 square feet. And it's a brush, so taking into consideration the wet coefficient.

Slip coefficient, yeah. But you show green in this plan down here. Is that synthetic turf or is that turf?

Yes, so in this portion here, this is a great image to look at. And I also want to highlight that we've changed the dimensions of the second pool to a rectangular design, which is not represented here. So I wanted to make sure that we pointed that out to you today. And within it, it has a sun shelf. The tile that we're proposing to use for the pool is this tile here, which is a valley tile, which It's a porcelain tile that comes from Ceramica Mayor.

That's going inside the pool?

Yes. And to your question at hand, we are doing a piece. Thank you very much. We're doing a synthetic grass in this particular area here. There is already a synthetic grass here and here on the property. So when I say it's more evolutionary, it's simply to make this flex space more functional for the hotel.

Got it. Just a few follow-up points. And I'm sure you've already done this and may have placed the sandstone at prior projects. There's a project that was done in Sunny Isles, and there was probably the same amount of tile used in this project, and it was an absolute disaster just because the coefficient of friction, as you mentioned, the tile is very slippery. So... I would just say make sure that the tile has slip resistancy and it's tested prior to that large application. And I'm sure you've studied the materials.

We did, and thank you for providing that.

So is there any additional landscaping? Because this property is right next to the PRA. It's the first property, right? There's high-volume traffic that goes along the east side of the property along the walking path. Have you thought about increasing any landscaping in that area to just shield the property, more privacy?

Within the property, there is a good bit of landscaping already. And Our goal is to have a minimal impact and we're going to reposition what exists already

Okay. I have to disclose that I have a Zoom meeting at 3 that I'm going to be late for because it's already almost 3.

Otherwise, beautiful project.

Great job. So could we do a motion? Oh, wait a second. We need to do public comments, right? Yes. Let's see.

I think our main concern is the turtles. Are you increasing any lighting on the property? Or you mentioned you're just repurposing the existing footprint, right?

Requirements that have to be met.

Yeah, they've got to comply with that. Right. That's a DEP issue. Okay. But otherwise, architect did a good job. So thank you for that. Okay. Motions?

Motion to approve.

Is there a second?

No comments.

Okay. Beautiful project. Very elegant. It's consistent. It's evolutionary. Good job. Good job. Good work. So we have three votes. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. You got three votes out of three members here. That's what you needed, right? Because Mr. Gomez had to step out. So good job, Mr. Gomez.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thank you. Okay. So let me just quickly say that the... We can do the, so that you can leave early. At the next meeting, we'll appoint the chair for the next coming couple years or whatever. Okay. And also we can do the calendar when we have all five members present.

Okay, perfect. Perfect.

And just for the record, you can open and close for public comment.

Yes. So when it comes to a close.

Well, just, well, you can open public comment and then close it.

So we have general public comments. Oh, I got it.

Okay. So let's open it and we'll close it because there's no further comments from public. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

All right.

Thank you.

Are you going to do your zoom here? Yes.