Planning Board - Regular Meeting

Today is the 15th of December, 2025. We do have a public hearing. Uh so could you all stand for the pledge and could you lead us in the pledge of allegiance, please? Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay. to take the attendance please. Patrick present

present Matt Espazito and Richy. Do we have a quorum? Yes. Okay. I'm required to read the statement into the record. Uh the planning board shall the right to rely on any information that is presented by the applicant. If any such information is later found to be inaccurate or incorrect, the planning board may determine that any approvals, building permits, or other actions previously granted in connection with the application are no and void. Okay. Uh, who's here on behalf of the applicant? Public hearing. Go ahead. Read 2517A.

Yes. For tracker design, applicant proposes to demolish an existing 7,000 foot singlestory building to create additional parking area as well as an interior alterations to an existing 18,471 ft three-story office building. All in connection with a change of use from office to medical office along with associated site. Okay, very good. Thank you very much. Rachel, please state your name and address for the record. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Rachel Shelfo Farrell Fritz PC 100 Motor Parkway New York for the applicant. Okay. It's nice to be here this evening.

Always good to see you here. It's been a bit uh but uh the the commissioner did uh issue a memorandum regarding uh this application dated the 8th of December 2025. Have you had the opportunity to review this uh with u with your client? And are there any issues, any concerns? anything you'd like to bring to our attention regarding this memo and in particularly the conditions and the covenants and restrictions?

Uh not with respect to the memo and the conditions and covenants and restrictions sir but there is one item that we do want to address with the board tonight. Um the which I will get to but I'm happy to say it right at the beginning. Um I do not think that um we have a concern with respect to um highway engineering's requirement of a 7- foot sidewalk at the end of the culde-sac of Fuller Avenue. Um we raised it with Highway Engineering and they didn't want to budge from that requirement. Um we feel that there's a number of issues with that sidewalk there that it could encourage hanging out at the end of a very quiet street that exists now without incident. It would require the removal of two very mature trees. Um that would impact the screening. Um it could impact drainage at the ends of the block as we would then be doing a pretty seven foot wide is a pretty substantial width sidewalk. So all that is green at the end now would end up being concreted over. So um I had

So we'll go through that with the site. I don't mean to cut you off. No, no, you're fine. But I just want We have some small guests with us. We have some younger guests with us. They're coming to their first zoning meeting at a very early age. It's kind of like close this portion of this regarding the meal. So you're uh the applicant has no objections to any of the covenants and restrictions. Correct. Okay. Please proceed.

First I just want to introduce our team. Um William D. Kundiff who is the chief operating officer of total orthopedics and sports medicine. Bill is also a professor of healthc care administration at Mallaloy College and Rockville Center. Uh Marty Katzman who is general counsel for total orthopedics and sports medicine. And then we have our talented designers Tom Petraa and Elizabeth Aligretta from Petraa Design and Engineering in Smithtown. They will assist um as needed this evening. Um, so as stated, the subject property is located at 300 and 346 Sunrise Highway, south side of Sunrise, west of Golding Avenue in West Babylon, identified on the tax map as district 100, section 156, block 4, lots one and 3.1. The property is located in an EB business zoning district. Um, 300 Sunrise Highway is a very familiar uh building in the community. It was the home of Liebore for many years. Um, and that will be the future home of Total Orthopedics and Sports Medicine. The smaller office building currently located at 346 Sunrise Highway, West Babylon, is proposed to be demolished and the parking lot area will be expanded uh to accommodate this use leading to the site being overparked for the proposed use. Just to tell you a little bit about Total Orthopedics and Sports Medicine. Um it is a first class operation. They are a team of fellowship trained orthopedic specialists providing advanced patient centered orthopedics care and pain management partnered with physical therapy uh to provide complete patient care services at one location. They provide complete continuity of care for their patients and they have

existing sites in Sioset, Masipiqua, East Meadow and in Deer Park at 21101 Deer Park Avenue. So they are already a member of the town of Babylon business community. U West Babylon will be a brand new location for this use. Um, and just to kind of go into an overview of the site plan, as stated, they propose to demolish the existing 7,000 square foot singlestory building to create an additional parking area and interior alterations are proposed for the 300 building, which is an existing 18,471T 3 office building, all in connection with changing the use from office to medical office along with associated site improvements. Um, so to simply stated, uh, the western side of the site where the 300 building is located essentially is going to remain as is except for the addition of a handicap entrance, um, excuse me, a handicapped ramp to allow for accessible um, entrance to the building. Who's ever working the remote is spot on right now. Um, that is the one change on the 300 side. And then the uh other side of the building, the eastern side, is where the de the demo and redevelopment will occur uh to give us a new parking lot for this use. Um because of the demolition of the 346 building and increased parking area, the site will be overparked with 130 spaces being required and 120 spaces being proposed. So there's a there's a three space surplus on the site. Um based on the type of medical use, orthopedics and physical therapy, 12 handicapped accessible spaces are required and will be provided in closest proximity to the main entrance of the

building as is required. At planning suggestion, the western curb cut will be one way into the site only. All of the other departmental comments have been addressed in connection with the site plan review. Uh, we are asking for relief on the one item I mentioned earlier, sir. We do not want to put a sidewalk at the dead ends of Fuller Avenue. Um, as far as the proposed use of the building, simply stated, the building will be as follows. First floor orthopedics, second floor PT and third floor physician offices and conference conference room space. Um in terms of site um there will be site security here um on a 360 basis 247 access. Um just to get back to the sidewalk concern um we did ask highway engineering for reconsideration of the 7 foot wide sidewalk at the dead end of Fuller. Uh the sidewalk is proposed on the culde-sac. Uh I think it creates a good spot for hanging out where that's really not happening now. It's sort of a quiet dead end. Tree removal will be required. Um and I that will decrease the visual buffer which is pretty nicely buffered right now. Um so in some the drainage issue I raised earlier better to have some green space than to have a 7 foot wide concrete going around the culac. um the sidewalk wouldn't quite connect all the way. So, it wouldn't necessarily have a continuity of sidewalk going down to Fuller Avenue. Um for all of those reasons, we don't think the sidewalk works. What we would like to do here is plant additional trees and shrubs inside the property line uh for additional buffering, denser planting to

further screen the site for the residents of Fuller Avenue. Um I did get to speak to a few of the residents before the hearing and they also share the concern about the um sidewalk. So I had told the planner on this job, Nunzio Russo, that because we weren't able to um come to an agreement with the highway engineering department that would it be okay to present to you all tonight and then hear from the community um to see what they would like to happen there. And um hopefully hopefully you know the board could then sort of uh give some direction. Do any of the board members have any questions at this board members?

Can you go back to Okay, let's just go to this Fuller Avenue here. Matt, if you could pull up the satellite photo so we could see where the Yeah. Where where does the Okay. So the curve question. All right. Thank you. That's good. Those two are good.

Yeah, it's pretty much the same. I was just going to say, are ours any better, Liz? Um, well, that that's beautiful, but this is better. This is better. Okay. Um, is there a plan for the fence or what what your plan is for? We're at the property line. I'm sorry. The fence is to remain. Okay.

Liz, why don't you come up here? So, if the board has any further questions, this is Elizabeth Aligreta um from Paka and she uh she has been working on these plans for the last eight months or so. If you're going to be coming up here and addressing the board, please state your name and address for the record. Elizabeth Aligreta uh with Petroa Design and Engineering and it's 199 East Main Street, Smithtown, New York, 11787. Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth? I do. Please proceed. You can describe what we're looking at there if you want.

We got to get you to earn your face. Um so like the photos that you have up on the screen also um at the end of this culdeac there's a

two large uh mature trees that would have to come out to install this 7 foot fence. We're proposing to install I'm follow a seven foot sidewalk. Um, we're proposing to put more taller buffer trees on our side of the fence uh to further dampen any noise or any view of the existing building. Um, just because like Rachel had said, it's just it doesn't make sense. This is a sidewalk to nowhere. Um, it's not going to connect with any existing sidewalks because our property line uh stops shy of the neighbors um driveways. So, we wouldn't even be connected there. And uh the res pull up the satellite photo of Okay, there we go. All right. So,

yeah. So, we might just make it on that side, but that side we would our property line goes to the the wood fence. Goes to the fence. That's weird. I guess your question about the highway department. Well, I know what they would ask, but obviously they have. Is this a requirement as part of their code?

So, it is I don't think it's part of their code. However, sir, I think it is part of their requirements and specifications. And I know having worked closely with them, they they pretty much um abide by their conditions and specifications unless perhaps like another town agency or like the board were to say, "Well, we heard from the applicant." And I'm not going to assume that the neighbors agree. Um, but say say you you were able to go back to them and say, "Well, the community and the applicant both presented why this doesn't make sense in this limited case." I know it's going to make sense in a lot of cases, but I just don't think it makes sense in this one.

Fair enough. Any questions? Uh, the project site is located near uh Freshwater Wetland. Did the applicant obtain a letter of no jurisdiction or an or a New York State DEC permit? We did. We received a letter of non-jurisdiction which was submitted to the town for the record for the official record. And Greg is shaking his head. Yes. For the record. You want to stick that record?

Um that is correct. The applicant did receive the letter of no jurisdiction which was dated on July of 2025. Um for the applicant, I have a follow-up question. Can you show on the site plan where the 100 foot um no disturbance buffer zone is? Uh that dash line kind of near the hand uh to the right. Oh, that's the the actual wetland. And then that line, yes, that is the 100 foot line. Sorry.

So, um to Mr. Axiola's question that uh information was previously on the plans that we had submitted.

Just a question about the handicap the handicap ramp and the handicap spaces. Um I see a new handicap ramp on the side the building. Yes. Um but I see most of the spaces on the front which is to the main entrance. Is the main entrance handicap accessible also?

Yes, it is. This was just to make the second um the secondary entrance also handicap accessible. That's why that was being added. But the main entrance is the one that you Matt is pointing to right now which is uh which is facing eastward and that's why you see that line of handicap spaces there as well as in the beginning of that row of parking that is across from the building entrance. You're welcome. Any other questions? Thank you.

Is there anybody uh who's attending that would like to address the board regarding this application? Come on up.

We're going to need you to fill out this But this is up you. Yeah, but you don't have to do it right now. Just do it after you speak. So, please state your name and address for the record. My name is Kristen Lavin and I reside at 8 Fuller Avenue in West Babylon. I do swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth. I do. Please proceed. Um, my concerns are the same that were um mentioned earlier regarding the sidewalk. My home is actually the was just seen in those pictures. Um, let's go to the satellite. Sure. Where's your home?

Right there where the uh the mouse is. Yeah. I actually had visited town hall and had the opportunity to look the plans over before tonight's meeting. Um Matt was kind enough to explain everything to me and that's where I saw the sidewalk plans. Um everything that was said earlier, I just wanted to reiterate. Um, I think it's um I I totally understand why in a number of circumstances that rule makes sense to install a sidewalk like when they put in stop and shop, you need a sidewalk there because pedestrians will be there. Um, in this case it's a sidewalk to nowhere. That was a great line. Um, we do have drainage issues. The street slopes down. Um, so at the end of the block there'll be more water after rainfall. I can only imagine it would be worse after a 7 foot block of cement was installed. Um there's otherwise, you know, everything that they said the trees would have to be removed. Um more people would certainly I think it would encourage people to be hanging out at the end of a block that currently they don't. Um my uh my house is actually the reason why there's the the child with autism sign there. My daughter has autism. Um it's really wonderful uh particularly for her for us to live in the home that we do um under the conditions that we're able to live um on our block. So uh I would just like for the grass to stay there if possible, the trees to stay there if possible. Um yeah, it just doesn't seem necessary. Seems sort of like a waste of money. And um yeah, that's pretty much it.

Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Is there anyone else that would like to address the board regarding this application? No. Okay. Um, any question? So, my first question is, do we know who is responsible for the piece of property with the greenage on the culde-sac side before your fence?

So, that would be part of our property, right? the right of way between the um where is do you want to just clarify the exact location of the property line? Well, my understanding is that would be our responsibility. Yeah. So, um our fence is just inside of our property line right now. Um so typically between your property line and the street becomes that you absorb that your responsibility for that. Um there is no other owner right there.

Would you have any objections if we actually did put some more trees or plantings on that side too since you're not changing the fence? Yeah. No objection. All right. And then two, you said that there's a location in Deer Park. If I recall, that location, we've had a lot of issues with parking uh and people extending. There's not enough parking as is, and so cars overflow into areas that are not parking. So, how is that going to be resolved here? Because it's a mess up in Deer Park. Hold on. You got to come up here so I can swear you also fill out that card. We'll do

that. When you're finished, bring that back. Sir, please state your name and address for the record. William Kundiff. I'm with Total Orthopedics, 115 Eene Way, Sioset, New York 11791. Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth? I do. Okay, please proceed.

The question regarding parking deer park, that is not our own facility. That is a multi-tenant facility. I believe it's also three stories. Um, we have maybe 25% of total occupancy. So some of those parking issues do not relate just to ourselves but the other tenants in the facility. We are aware of it quite honestly on a regular basis. I speak to our facility manager. I speak to our facility staff and our doctors and we attempt to dedicate parking to our physicians first and our patients and then the staff are instructed to park in the local area where where parking is available. Not to make an excuse but we we've directed that and we speak with building ownership uh as often as we can. They've got me on a hotline. Appreciate it. No problem.

Okay, Rachel, based on your experience, as you mentioned, there's you have additional parking above and beyond what's required. Yes.

Yes, Mr. Chairman, that's what I was just going to say. We are overparked here. Um, so I feel that, you know, when I got brought into this application, it wasn't at the beginning of the process and I was able to look at what they were trying to do and the removal of a building that is empty to make more parking for another building that's there now to be successful and thrive, to not be another white elephant building in West Babylon. We have enough of those, right? So, we want our sites to be productive. And th this to me was just a planning home run with the demo of a building that is not in use, making more parking for the building that's to remain to be a successful and thriving property within the town.

Yes, because as you point out, that is always a concern and Dan, thank you for bringing that up because I was thinking about that same situation in Deer Park. Okay. Um, any other questions? I just have one last um, question if I may. Um, I know not all the residents wanted to speak, but they were kind of all in agreement when I spoke to them informally. So, just for the record, do you guys agree with no sidewalk? Hold on. Hold on. Uh, firstly, you're not the commissioner anymore,

but but secondly, the chairman runs this meeting. So, but may I ask that question of our guests? I think it would be helpful because they since they agreed with me and what I said, I think they don't feel the need to come up, but I think it's important for you to know how they feel. Sure. Well, tell them come on up. Anybody else want? Does everybody here agree with the recommendation uh made which is to not have a have a sidewalk and not culde-sac? Could you raise your hand if you agree? All right. How many people we have? One, two, three. Keep them up. What about the baby? Does the baby agree also? Baby agrees, too. And

every the daughter. Okay, there she is. All right. All right. I think we've got everybody in 10. I count to 10. That's close enough. Okay. Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate it. Thank you all for coming. We really appreciate it. Thank you. All right. So, before you leave, I'm going to A motion from the board to close the hearing and reserve decision. Uh let's see. Motion by Dan. Close the hearing. Second by Ed. Second. All in favor?

The hearing is now closed. The decision has been reserved in order for us to uh review the feedback here and and uh and to discuss the issue of uh of the sidewalk and work session. So the the record will remain open for written comments to follow up on the status of the application or to submit additional written comments. You can contact the planning department a number of different ways in person. Planet is located on the west wing of town hall. Application documents and plans are available for inspection between the hours of 900 a.m. and 4 pm or by phone 631-9573103 or by email planning comments at townof babliny.gov. Thank you very much.

Thank you everyone. Happy holidays.

Thank you. Did we get everybody to fill out? Okay, we do have a second public hearing. Uh, thank you all for coming. Let's get to our second public hearing. Could you call the hearing, please?

Top 2416A t trap realy applicant is proposing interior alterations and site improvements for a change of use to an existing 4,116 square foot building for a physical therapy and chiropractic office. Okay. Uh, sir, could you please state your name and address for the record? Yes, for the record, M. Mr. Chairman, Mark Garbrandt, the law firm, Da Cretson, Garbrandt, 692 South Willwood Avenue here in Linen Nurse. Good evening. Okay, please proceed. Um, Jud, Judge, I'm sorry, Mr. Halpern, I believe that there

Oh, okay. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm getting a little ahead of myself. All right. Uh, the planning commissioner did release a memorandum regarding this application dated December the 8th, 2025. There are a series of uh conditions and covenants and restrictions. Uh have you had the opportunity to review these with your client? Yes, I have. Are there any issues, any concerns? Anything that you'd like to bring to the boards? None. And I've specifically gone over the covenants and restrictions which are to be recorded and to follow the land.

And you have and you have no objections to the covenants and restrictions. Okay. Well, again, I I represent TRAP Realy LLC in connection with their proposed interior alterations and site improvements to change the use of the premises from offices to physical therapy and chiropractic office. Um, appearing with me tonight for answer any questions you might have. Um, starting on the on the left there, that's that is um Joseé Ramos. who was the expediter and and point man on this this application. And sitting next to him is Kevin J. Peterman. He's a professional engineer uh with LK McClean Associates in Engineering. He was the projects engineer. Uh and last but certainly not least is is Dr. Thomas Francis Dao who's a member of TRAP Realy LLC and he's also the owner of Suffach uh Physical Therapy and Chiropractic. um which will be entering these premises to operate their business hopefully. And they also has presently four offices, one in Comarmac, one in Islandia, uh one in Port Jefferson Station, and one on Route 110 in Melville. That is not in the town of Babylon, however, um but it is in Huntington. Um that's a much larger uh site than we have here. Um, this building is um, well, let me just say this. It's 10,000 square feet up in in Huntington. And we expect the people from Melville to remain in Melville, and the people south will hopefully be coming to our physical facility here. The premises are located at 751 Broadway in Amityville. Um, the tax map is 100 16426. It's located at the northeast corner of

Broadway and Natalie Avenue. Um the premises are zoned E business Business and have a total lot area of 14,739 square ft or just over a third of an acre. Um the footprint of the existing building has an approximately 223 square ft and a gross floor area of approximately 4,116 square ft. The street frontage on Broadway uh runs the length of a curve 127.16 feet and on Natalie it's 105.90 ft. The adjacent parcels to the south and to the east of us are also zoned e business. Uh the property to the east and immediately behind us is presently used as a realtor's office. Uh to the north of us lies the Greyborn Multiple Residence Complex and um the southern portion of their parking lot is immediately north of ours. On the southern side of Natalie on the same side of of Route 110, a um a new wing stop has recently opened. And then directly west of us and on the other side of Route 110 is an ultra gas station. Um, my client purchased the uh the property uh which I understand has a certificate of occupancy for offices in the spring of 2023. I believe that the building prior to that um was being occupied by the 1199 Service Employees International Union as offices, but it's been vacant for some time now. Um I was introduced to Dr. Dao in December of 2023 by his father Thomas Edward Dao uh who at the time was taking the lead on this application. But unfortunately Dr. Dao rather suddenly passed away in March of 2024 uh bringing this uh project to a halt. You know that being said my client is

had some time to regroup now and is anxiously and hopefully looking to move forward with opening up a new location. As I said, we're proposing a number of side improvements and interior alterations uh with respect to the interior. Um it's a split level and the upper level will be used for medical offices and the lower level will be utilized for storage use only. Um the plans reflect that the upper level has a rather uh open area with uh as you can see there are a number of uh treatment areas located on the north side of the building. Most of those are going to be screened off with curtains. There no uh permanent fixtures between the rooms. And then in the center that you could see there's a lot of chiropractic and adjustment tables located in the middle. Um the downstairs, as I said, is going to be used for storage of equipment such as durable med medical equipment. Um the design also includes a lift or a small elevator if you will um for people when they come in on at the ground level that will take them up um to the main floor uh where there will be uh four employees. We anticipate a chiropractor, physical therapist, uh a receptionist, and and some other aid. At the present time, um there's no billing that's done on site, which obiates the need for uh additional p personnel. Um, as to the site improvements, you can see that um, there are two uh, exits and entrances, or as I should say, there's an exit entrance on Route 110, which is going to remain, and we've actually uh, our plans proposed the widening of the entrance way on Natalie Avenue to allow for both

ingress and egress. Um you know there I should also point out there is a traffic signal at the intersection of Natalie and Broadway. Um both of these egresses are going to have um stop signs uh as you exit the premises. The um the three existing drainage structures will remain. Uh the existing gravel and dirt parking lot which uh you'll see there today is going to be replaced with asphalt pavement. Uh the cement sidewalk in front of and on the south side of the building is going to be replaced. Um we have the required 21 parking spaces. So no parking variances or any other variances are required in connection with this application. Um we have the required four ADA parking stalls uh which located on the south side of the building um which will be properly marked and signed. Um and the the entrance to the facility is on the uh the west side of the building right on the the lower part right where the handicap is. So it's obviously easily accessible for people who need to. Um the proposed enclosed dumpster is going to be located on the the southeast side of the property. Um the construction details uh C11 if we have that. Okay. So they they show that they show there how the the garbage truck will enter the premises from Natalie and how it will leave onto Route 110. Um this was found acceptable to IMEG who

performed the traffic state review on this application. Uh incidentally they also found that the application will not generate enough traffic to warrant a traffic study. Um premises are presently hooked up to sewers. Uh, no New York no work is proposed in the New York State rideofway on Route 110. So, no New York State Department of Transportation approvals are required. Um, the building is is going to have a new Ephus exterior. Um, I believe we have a color rendering of that. Yes. Okay. That's that's what we intend for it to look like.

That's a bad joke. I uh I was there the other day to take a look at it once more and it's many times

and uh and yes, you're quite right. Um lastly, I believe we've developed a very handsome landscape uh plan uh which is going to among other things on the north side there. You're going to see uh 20 various evergreens along the uh the north side of the the vinyl fence uh which vinyl fence is to remain and there's also an existing vinyl fence on the east side of the property which is going to remain as well. Um and then on the the south side we have 40 laurel purple Laapes, I think I pronounced that correctly, which are ground covers which are going to be along the south side, west of the curb cut. And then another 46 of those are going to be um on the east side of the curb cut with ornamental and white flowering dogwoods. Um uh I believe that my client's application is not going to eliminate an eyesore, but it's going to beautify this property something well beyond I can remember seeing having grown up in Amityville and not seeing anything um pleasant in a long time. So I'll leave it open for questions at this point.

Um and I do just want to confirm this is strictly interior alterations. Nothing exterior. Yeah. No. Well, just that what I the site plan. Yeah. No, nothing else. Nothing else. And the northern exit going out onto 110. I I recognize you have stop signs at both of the entrance and exits. What about a no left turn or right turn only? Well, you can't make a left turn there. So, I know that. Well, that's gonna that'll be a good one, but I mean Yeah. I mean, if it's if it's something that you want to see there,

everybody's going to want to try to get over to the gas station, you know, the new uh chicken place that's coming in across the street. I know that there's a little divide sometime. I'm sorry. Where where are you suggesting this? Just at that northern exit on 110. On 110. So, they're not going to make it. Yeah. Well, there is a light there. So, anybody who's coming out on Natalie, Natalie, I'm sorry. The light is on Natalie. Right. Right. So, you you're talking about the chicken place that's across the street from us. That's why not the wing stop. There's going to be another one on the west side of the street. Okay.

I just feel that it's sometimes pretty important to be specific and no left turn or right turn only.

Okay. Hold on. Mr. Hamos, come on. You have to come up here, but

please state your name and address for the record. Jose Ramos, 43 Parkway Boulevard, Ron Con, New York, 11779. Ramos, don't leave here without filling out one of these. Yes, sir. Okay. Would you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth? Nothing but the truth? Yes, sir, I do. Um, would it be acceptable if at the stop sign there was also a no left turn sign underneath it attached to that? Of course, wherever you feel that it's appropriate and that it's visible. Okay. Thank you. You can always whisper that into your coun.

Thank you. Um, so looking at the site plan looks very nice. My concern is with the handicap parking the uh just south of where the refuge is, there's two parking stalls. Yeah. Uh, yes. Quite frankly, if someone was to back up, I mean, I understand numbers and engineers all go by their numbers, but in all reality, if someone were to back up out of that handicap stall and there was a large vehicle parked there, they're not going to be able to get out. Was there any discussion on moving the uh handicaps to the uh facing 110 as posted in that location? I' I'd have to confer with them whether or not there was I

sure Kevin Peterman from LK McClean Associates 437 South Country Road Haven, New York. I do. Um, we did think about the best use of the site and the best layout of the site. The way that the natural grade worked, it made sense to locate the ADA stalls in this area. But if the board's preference was to locate them on the other side, I'm sure we could find a way to make that happen. This made the most sense for the grading. It was the most optimal for earthwork. Uh, as you know, the grading for the ADA stalls has to be relatively flat, less than 2% actually. Um, so this made the most sense, but again, if the board would prefer to see those stalls located on the other side, I'm sure we can find a way to make that happen.

Matt, can you raise that a little bit? Yeah. Well, wouldn't there isn't there more space backing up where they're presently located than would be on on the left side?

That is correct. There is more backup space, but I understand uh Dan's concern may be that eastern most ADA stall as that as that backs out. Um, you know, we did put a vehicle uh movement diagram into that spot in particular because it was something that we flagged as well and a vehicle wouldn't have a problem. Assuming every vehicle parked in this parking lot was a standard size vehicle, there would be no issues. But if you get a 29 foot long or 30 foot long, you know, extra long pickup, you know, maybe you might see an issue there. But, um, looking at standard vehicles, which is how, you know, we design all of our sites, there was no issues,

of course. And can you tell me what uh the basement will be used for? Storage. Just storage. That's all it's going to be used for. Storage. What type of storage? Of medical equipment. And what type of medical equipment?

Wheelchairs. Um orthopedic uh pieces that you know the clients need. Um we understand that it's limited to and our hand our parking is based upon that is used for storage only. Um so we that's that's what we intend to use it for. I I think I also want to part point out as far as parking talking with Dr. Dao today I found something very interesting and apparently when I was speaking with Kevin about it as well he's working with another operation Dr. Dallas that uses Uber service for people to come. And obviously, you think about it, you need physical therapy. I know I had my knee replaced. There's no way. Somebody has to get me there, you know. And I, you know, we know we're dealing with people physical therapy either or the chiropractic care. Nobody wants to walk anywhere. You know, you want to park on on site or he uses this Uber service which they pay for. They sign up and that's how people come to the office.

I'm doing pretty well right now. Thank you. Physical therapy. Oh, I've done mine physical therapy. It was a while ago. Excuse me, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I I just had a quick question. Um, for the record, how many parking stalls are required and how many do you have? We have 21. We need 21. Okay. So, it it perfectly meets it. Yes, perfectly meets it. Yes. Very good. Thank you. Excuse me, Mr. Chairman. Yes.

I have a question. Uh Mr. Garbrand, can you take a look at um um diagram in C11 and um point out if the parking stalls um that are depicted on C11 are being encroached upon by the turning radius or the road um by the side of the building there, as you can see. You see the stall closest to the road? It doesn't seem to be fully depicted there. I'm sorry, I'm having trouble following the stall closest to the road.

There were two to the driveway in effect for the turnaround when when the garbage truck will be leaving. Um they're right there. It seems like uh what happened to the rest of that parking stall? So the way we modeled this auto turn um we just did it once. If we were to do it again, I guess we wouldn't have showed it interfering with that parking stall. Um so if the board would prefer to see a a vehicle turning diagram that doesn't overlap that parking stall, we can certainly provide. Yeah, that would be great. Thank you. What time does the uh garbage disposal come to trash?

It's a great question. we assumed off peak but I can't answer that on the record. Excuse me one second.

Dr. Dr. Dao indicates on his other locations they they come either before hours or after hours but not during hours. And again, our hours will be um Monday through Friday, 9 to 7 and on Saturday from 9 to 1 p.m. I should have mentioned that. All right. Any other questions? Is there anyone from the public that would like to address the board? Seeing any I will request a motion from the board to close the hearing and reserve decision. Okay. Who asked the best question? Dan. Motion by Dan. Motion by second by second.

All in favor?

The public hearing has now been closed. The decision has been reserved in order for us to review the feedback to receive uh any responses to any open site plan issues. The record will remain open for written comments. to follow up on the status of the application or submit any written comments. You can contact the planning department number of ways in person. Uh planning is located on the west wing of town hall. Application documents and plans are available for inspection between the hours of 9 a.m. and 400 p.m. or via phone 631-9573103 or by email planning comments town of Bablinny.gov. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Have a good night.

Okay. Uh that concludes our two public hearings. We will now uh go into our work session.