Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Wednesday, August 12, 2026

The Planning Commission approved a two-year extension for The Aurora Highlands Site Plan No. 21 subdivision plat and a conditional use for an Accessory Dwelling Unit on Havana Street. They also recommended approval to City Council for a comprehensive plan amendment to designate a commercial hub place type and approved a site plan amendment with a sign adjustment for the Applegreen at Aurora fueling station.

About this meeting

Government Body
Planning Commission
Meeting Type
Planning Commission
Location
Aurora, CO
Meeting Date
August 12, 2026

Transcript

193 sections

0:03 – 0:40Speaker 6

we are recording all right uh chair start when you please great thanks brandon uh we are just a tad bit early but i think that's acceptable good evening everyone it is wednesday the 12th of august 2026. I now call this regularly scheduled virtual meeting of the Aurora Planning and Zoning Commission to order. I now call the role of commissioners. Commissioner Jacek. Present. Commissioner Bush. Present. Commissioner Becker.

0:41Speaker 5

Commissioner Banco.

0:43Speaker 5

Commissioner Riley.

0:46Mike Riley

I am present.

0:49Speaker 5

Commissioner Hogan.

0:51 – 1:14Speaker 6

Present. And Commissioner Walz is also present. We've established a voting quorum with seven members present. The Pledge of Allegiance will not be said tonight as this meeting is virtual. We'll move on to the minutes from the 29th of July. Everyone received a draft of those minutes, so do you all have an opportunity to read them? Are there any amendments or corrections to the minutes? Commissioner Riley.

1:14 – 1:29Mike Riley

Non-substantive. Page 45, my name is misspelled twice. And then that paragraph, the first paragraph about Aurora Public Schools, there's a sentence that should be started off with a capital. but again, non-substantive.

1:30 – 5:29Speaker 6

That's the sentence with the slash and then the- Slash relying, right. Yeah. Non-substantive. Are there any substantive amendments or changes to the minutes? Okay. Seeing none, the chair moves to approve the minutes as presented without objection, barring any non-substantive changes. Is there a second? I so second. Thank you, Commissioner Bush. It's been moved and seconded to approve the minutes as presented without objection. Is there any discussion on the motion? Without discussion, is there any objection? Without objection, the minutes will be approved and we will direct staff to make those non-substantive spelling and or grammatical changes. Tonight, we have four items of general business, items eight A through D. The chair moves to approve the agenda as presented without objection. Is there a second? Commissioner Banka, thank you. It's been moved and seconded to approve the agenda as presented without objection. Is there any discussion on motion? Is there any objection? Seeing none, the agenda will be adopted. I'll now read a summary of our policies and procedures for this evening's meeting. Please make sure your home or computer microphone is on view unless you're speaking. The Planning and Zoning Commission meeting is a quasi-judicial hearing. There's no swearing in of those who will give testimony, but it is presumed that all parties are telling the truth. When addressing the commission as an applicant or their representative, please state your first and last name as well as the organization that you're representing. And you may additionally state if you are an Aurora resident. If you are addressing the commission as a member of the general public for public testimony, please state your first and last name and if you are an Aurora resident. For each agenda item, there will be an initial presentation by city staff. Afterward, commissioners may ask questions of staff. Discussion of agenda items by commissioners will be conducted only following a motion and a second. Following the staff presentation, the applicant or their representative may choose to make a presentation or answer questions. The applicant will have 10 minutes for their presentation. Commissioners may ask questions of the applicant. Members of the public that have signed up to speak will each have three minutes to speak on the agenda item during this public comment period. It is asked that only new information be presented. The same arguments should not be repeated. Commissioners may ask questions of the public following their comments. After public comments, the applicant will have five minutes to address any public comments. Commissioners may ask questions of the applicant. The chair will ensure all commissioners have no further questions of the applicant or staff. The chair will then call for the question. After a motion has been made and seconded, the commissioners will then discuss the case amongst themselves. After the discussion, the chair will call the question. Commissioners are finders of fact and will vote based on their evaluation of the evidence presented as compared to Code Section 146. All rulings by the Planning and Zoning Commission are normally final. Exceptions are zoning map amendments, zoning code amendments, and comprehensive plan amendments that need City Council approval. Decisions by the Commission can be appealed to City Council by presenting a written appeal to the City Manager within 10 calendar days of the public hearing. City Council also has the discretion to call up any case whether an appeal has been made or not. Notices for this virtual meeting were published, posted to the City website, and the development projects were posted with signs on the properties. Notices were also mailed to adjacent landowners per city requirements. As an additional note for this virtual meeting, the Commission asks that any applicant or applicant representative please turn on their camera, if able, when speaking or presenting to the Commission. Okay, and without a consent agenda, this evening's first case is agenda item 8A, which is the Aurora Highlands Site Plan number 21. First recording for the minutes, Commissioner site visits for agenda item 8A. Becker, Bush, Jachik, Bank of Hogan, Riley, and Walls. Okay, agenda item 8A, the Aurora Highlands Site Plan number 21 subdivision plat extension, which is located in Ward 2. Our case manager this evening is Debbie Bickmeyer, applicant Century Communities. Debbie, the floor is yours.

5:33 – 6:37Speaker 11

Good evening. My apologies. I think I lost my share. No, it did not. One moment, please. I apologize. It's not letting me toggle down. I have this problem every time I present to you. You'd think I'd figure it out. I thought I did. Thank you.

6:37 – 6:53Speaker 12

It won't let me toggle back. I had to turn, I toggled it down so that I could turn my camera on and it will not, it's not letting me do anything.

6:59 – 7:26Speaker 7

Okay. I was gonna be quick. Okay, maybe now we're back. I see your presentation.

7:28Speaker 13

Go to the next slide.

7:30Speaker 12

It is not on my screen. I am seeing the QR code.

7:35Speaker 13

Okay, that's what we see too.

7:37Speaker 12

Yes, it will not let me advance to the next slide.

7:53Speaker 8

Right now, nothing's being shared.

7:55Speaker 11

I'm aware. Thank you. One moment. Thank you.

8:12Speaker 12

I've got it on, it will not advance.

8:17Speaker 13

So there's more than one way to share. Do you have your PowerPoint in front of you, like as if you were on your desktop?

8:30 – 8:43Speaker 13

And then if you look in the upper right-hand corner, there's a button that says Present in Teams, and sometimes that'll work. In addition to like, going the way through through the teams.

8:47Speaker 12

My, my computer is frozen. I'm in the presentation correctly. It is just not allowing me to advance.

8:53Speaker 13

So, okay. Where's your presentation located in the files and I'll maybe present it. Or I'll, I'll show it.

9:02Speaker 12

I was going to say, if.

9:04 – 9:37Speaker 6

it would be permitted for me to i think i need to restart um could we advance to item 8b and while i get my computer restarted my apologies for the inconvenience uh susan or a member of staff uh can we verify that uh the applicant the representative and any members of the public that might testify on if we have anyone signed up i see daniel's with us um Is anyone signed up to speak on 8B? I want to make sure that they're present before we advance to 8B.

9:38Speaker 9

No, there is no one signed up for that.

9:41 – 10:10Speaker 6

Great. Do any commissioners have objections to returning to 8A after Agenda Item 8B? We'll proceed to Agenda Item 8B, which is the Aurora Places Comp Plan Amendment for Place Type Designation in Ward 5. We do have a specific area for this one. I will record for the minute site visits by commissioners. Becker, Bush, Banker, Hogan, Riley and Walls. Okay, Daniel, the floor is yours.

10:11 – 14:23Speaker 3

Thank you. For the record, I'm Daniel Krasnowski. I'm the interim long range planning manager for the city of Aurora. This item is an amendment to the city's comprehensive plan. The applicant is the city of Aurora, and I'm representing the city in this case. This is a rather unusual specific case. As you see, month after month, meeting after meeting, we often use a place type designation in our comprehensive plan to identify or project land use and development patterns for various parts of the city. We designate a place type to all property within the city limits, as well as all unincorporated property within our planning and annexation boundary. The one exception to that is we do not assign a place type designation to property within other cities' jurisdictions. The property I question tonight is about an 18-acre parcel That was until very recently incorporated in the city of Centennial, which is why it does not have a place type designation. See, if Centennial and the property owner work through a de annexation process, so that property is no longer in the city, meaning it's unincorporated and what I'm bringing forward tonight. is a recommendation to provide a place type designation to this unincorporated property to be consistent with how we use the comp plan and place types throughout the city. I'll put a screen here of the property. Like I said, this is about 18 acre parcel located north of Arapahoe Road. west of Olathe Street, adjacent to Regis Jesuit High School, which is the owner of the property, the subject site. It's also adjacent to the shopping center or Rappaport Crossing, which has King Soopers Movie Theater. Many of you are familiar with that. Staff's recommendation is to assign a place type designation of commercial hub to this parcel. The property owner has shared with us that they do intend to submit an annexation application to come into the City of Aurora for this property. Um, that's not what's on the agenda tonight. Um, the really the extent to this is just the comprehensive plan amendments to provide that place type designation, which will in turn direct staff and help shape our recommendation of any sort of future zoning, additional zoning. If they do come forward with a annexation agreements. The. Criteria for approval and process for approval for comp plan amendments are listed in your staff report. As always, it does require a public hearing at the Planning and Zoning Commission. It also is requesting a recommendation that must be approved by at least two-third majority of the Planning and Zoning Commission. At that point, we will move forward to a city council public hearing for final adoption of the comprehensive plan amendment. Any sort of annexation agreement, initial zoning would come under separate process. The Planning and Zoning Commission would see that initial zoning just as you do with all annexations. So that would come under a future agenda item if that were to move through or when that moves through. I'm happy to answer any questions. There may be a representative of the property owner here to answer questions about the plans for that property. But like I said, this is a comp plan amendment only on tonight's agenda.

14:25 – 14:44Speaker 6

Great. Thank you, Daniel. And just for the commission's benefit, for evidence of the hearing, this is PDF page 120. You will find the conformance with the code criteria. So allowing all commissioners and members to view that. It's printed page 116, PDF page 120.

14:45Speaker 5

Any questions for staff or the applicant? or the property owner, I should say.

14:52Speaker 6

Okay. And Susan, just double checking, we still don't have anyone signed up to speak on 8B.

14:58Speaker 9

I misspoke earlier, Chair. Diana Rael is here for this particular project.

15:07Speaker 6

Okay. Before we go to Diana, Commissioner Hogan, did you have a question for staff?

15:11 – 15:32Speaker 15

I do have a question. Daniel, did you happen to post this property? Because I looked all over for the yellow sign, and I found one, a fallen sign that was a city of centennial sign, oddly enough. But did this not require a posting per our preamble?

15:33 – 16:08Speaker 3

It does not. Section 5.2 of the UDO defines what applications and what hearings require notice, posting, mailings. The Comprehensive Plan Amendment does not require mailings and posting. Any sort of future annexation or initial zoning would, however, require those types of notifications. Because this is just a comp plan amendment, kind of a special case. We don't do property owner postings or property postings for this type of application.

16:09Speaker 11

Okay, thank you.

16:10Speaker 5

Okay, further questions for staff?

16:15Speaker 6

Okay, Susan, do you want to assist and help our public testimony get unmuted and make sure that they're with us?

16:29 – 18:31Speaker 2

Hi all, I'm Diana Rael, Norris Design. I am really just available to answer questions on this. I will just give a little color. I'm with Norris Design, 1101 Bannock Street, Denver, Colorado, 80204. And I sit on the board of trustees at Regis Jesuit High School. I chair the Planning and Major Projects Committee. We've been in talks with Aurora now for over a year now. including the mayor and city council members about the disconnection with Centennial and annexation to Aurora. By way of background, the main campus of Regis Jesuit High School is in the city of Aurora. And our desire is to have the full campus, including the 18 acres subject property to be added to that, to be included and annexed to the city of Aurora. The first step here tonight is this comprehensive plan amendment in order to allow us to annex to Aurora. So we have built seven tennis courts on that property to date and plan to add additional recreational amenities for the campus, including turf athletic fields and a potential indoor field house, all of that is TBD at this point from a timing standpoint. This is the first step though in that process. Well, I should back up. The first step was to disconnect from Centennial, which we spent about a year doing. We have a very thorough disconnection agreement. We've met with neighbors, adjacent neighbors that are in the city of Centennial and all of those items have been sort of stacked up and approved. And so here we are, first step in Aurora's process is the comprehensive plan amendment. So I'm available to answer any questions that you may have, but appreciate your consideration of this matter.

18:34 – 19:02Speaker 6

Great. Thank you, Diana. Any questions for Dan? Okay, I do have one question, and I'm making an assumption, Daniel. This question's for you. Directly to the west, kind of there at Arapahoe and Parker, that King Soopers, the theater, that parcel in, yeah, exactly, in red, that's all commercial hub place type as well? You're muted, Daniel.

19:04Speaker 3

Sorry. Yes, the shopping center and the school campus are both the same designation as staff has recommended.

19:11Speaker 6

Okay, great, thank you. Further questions for staff before we close the public hearing?

19:18 – 19:32Speaker 5

Seeing none, I'll close this portion of the public hearing and entertain a motion on agenda item 8B. Commissioner Hogan. Either or. Commissioner Hogan, you're muted.

19:33Speaker 6

Did you have a question, Commissioner Bush?

19:35Melvin Bush

Yes. Did we get any people from the public? There was another name.

19:45Speaker 6

Yeah, I think that was who Susan had recorded, but let's double check. Susan, are you with us again?

19:53Speaker 9

Yes, and there are no other public signed up for this particular agenda.

20:02Speaker 6

Okay, great. Thank you, and thank you for checking, Commissioner Bush. I appreciate it. Commissioner Hogan, go ahead.

20:08 – 20:55Speaker 15

On item 8B, Aurora Places Comprehensive Plan Amendment. Based upon the staff recommendation, the presentation, and the discussion at this evening's public hearing, I move to recommend approval to the City of Aurora Council of the amendment to the Aurora Places Comprehensive Plan to assign a place type designation to commercial hub because the proposal complies with the criteria in Code Section 5.4.1 and the provisions in Code Section 5.4.1 of the Unified Development Ordinance.

20:57 – 21:32Speaker 6

Thank you, Commissioner Hogan. It's been moved to approve Agenda Item 8B. Is there a second? Commissioner Benka? Thank you. It's been moved and seconded to approve 8B. I'll open the floor for discussion. I'll just start off and say that I think that this makes a lot of sense, especially since the commercial hub place type is directly adjacent to this parcel, and it makes a more contiguous property in connecting the full campus of Regis. So I fully support changing the place type or adopting the place type to commercial hub. Further discussion on the adoption of AB.

21:32Speaker 5

Okay, seeing none, I'll call the roll. Commissioner Jacek. Approve. Commissioner Bush.

21:42Speaker 5

Commissioner Becker.

21:45Speaker 5

Commissioner Becker.

21:47Speaker 5

Commissioner Riley. I approve.

21:49 – 22:05Speaker 6

Commissioner Hogan. Approve. Commissioner Walz also votes to approve. Agenda item 8B is approved with seven votes. We've met the two-thirds threshold, so this will be forwarded to City Council with our recommendation. Thank you, Commissioner.

22:05Speaker 5

Debbie, are we ready to go?

22:08Speaker 12

I really hope so, yes.

22:11 – 22:37Speaker 6

That makes seven of us, eight of us. Go ahead. We will return now to Agenda Item 8B, the Aurora Highlands Site Plan Number 21, Subdivision Platte Extension, located in Ward 2. Our case manager this evening is Debbie Bickmeyer, the applicant, Century Communities. We have previously recorded for the minutes Commissioner site visits. We will have this stand still for Agenda Item 8A. Debbie, take it away.

22:41Speaker 1

There we go.

22:51Speaker 11

There. Are we, are you viewing?

22:55 – 23:10Speaker 7

We are not. Brandon, were you able to get the presentation?

23:10Speaker 6

Oh, wait. There we go. We see your note view. I need to change your presentation mode.

23:37Speaker 7

Okay, I'll make an executive decision. Brandon, do you have the presentation available?

23:42Speaker 12

It will not come up for me. Yeah.

23:54Speaker 7

Now, I'm not going to build it. Let's see.

24:04Speaker 5

Okay, is that you?

24:07Speaker 6

We're seeing the aerial map?

24:09Speaker 12

That is correct. I just have to scroll backwards. There we go.

24:12Speaker 6

All right. Take it away, Debbie. Thank you.

24:15 – 29:28Speaker 12

My apologies. Good evening. I am Debbie Bickmeyer, and I will be presenting item 8A this evening. The applicant, Century Communities, is requesting approval of a two-year extension of a subdivision plat for 178 lots on 34.4 acres. The site is zoned medium density residential R2 and is designated emerging neighborhood place type. The site is located in Northeast Aurora, north of 26th Avenue and east of E470. It is within the Aurora Highlands Master Plan Community, which is the yellow area in this map, and is bounded by 48th Avenue to the north and 26th Avenue to the south. This is a recent aerial of the subject property, which is outlined in yellow. It is more specifically located east of Highlands Creek Parkway. And let me get this to go on that one. This is Highlands Creek Parkway. and north of East 32nd Avenue. The site is the second phase of development proposed by Century Communities. Phase one is located immediately to the west of this site. The site will be surrounded by residential development to the south and the west, and it will be bounded by Aurora Highlands Parkway to the north and northeast. This is an overview of the Aurora Highlands subdivision filing number 21 plat as approved. The plaque which defines the lot work of the approved site plan includes 82 front loaded single family detached residential lots and 96 lots on motor courts. The extension request relates to time only no changes will be made to the plat. So items that were, excuse me, the application history of this starts with the administrative approval of the site plan, as I said, for 178 lots on 34.4 acres, which was approved administratively on April 12th, 2023. The site plan approval is valid for five years from that date. The subdivision plat was approved After technical review on August 16th, 2024, an applicant has one year from the date of approval to record a subdivision plat. In August 2025, the applicant requested a one-year approval to the subdivision plat, which was granted by the planning director per code section 146-5.3.14.C. However, it may not exceed a period of one year. This is the applicant's second request for an extension. Therefore, it is subject to approval by the Planning and Zoning Commission for time not to exceed two years for good cause shown. Some of the items that were discussed during review, the applicant's request was referred out to all city staff reviewers to determine what would be required if the extension was granted. The requirements per lane development stipulate that the applicant must meet the current subdivision plat checklist and meet current regulations at the time of recordation. They will be required to submit prior to recordation to confirm that all of those findings and requirements have been met. Also required is the applicant will need to submit and make a new civil plan submittal and they will be required to meet the most current design standards and roadway manual criteria at that time. And then these other stipulation was that until the time of development occurs on this site that the applicant must ensure that it is stabilized with overgrowth so that they don't get run off. um. And the final thing is the applicant was made aware that the site plan approval will expire in five years, which occurs on April 12th, 2028. So for these reasons, staff recommends the planning and zoning approve per code section 146-5.3.14.C, one additional extension of validity for a time not to exceed two years for the reasons stated in the staff report and in this presentation. I'm available for questions. That concludes my presentation and the applicant does have a presentation to share as well.

29:29Speaker 6

Great. Thank you, Debbie.

29:31Speaker 5

We'll open the floor for questions from the Commission for staff. Okay. Seeing none, we will go to the applicant's presentation.

29:41Speaker 6

You'll have 10 minutes to present. Please state your name for the record, and you may optionally state if you're an Aurora resident.

29:49 – 38:11Speaker 20

Good evening, Commissioners. This is Cindy Myers. Can everyone hear me okay? All right. Thank you very much. Normally, I would tell you all that I am very pleased to be in front of the Planning Commission and very excited to be here. Unfortunately, in this case, I am not because I don't have a good story to tell. I think as most people are aware and I'm actually going to share something a little different first. Can everybody see my screen OK? So this is a one page out of a very detailed 82 page long study done by John Burns, who if for, I apologize. I did not give my address or the other, and you did give me instructions. My address is 8390 East Crescent Parkway, Greenwood Village, 80111. And I am an Aurora resident. So anyway, I will pick up where I was. I apologize about that. So the slide that I'm showing you, again, is from John Burns. John Burns does extensive market research and reports on the state of things in the home building industry. And the one thing that you can see that I've highlighted there is that this July was the worst for sales since 2011. that's not a happy story to tell. And I will go back over to my presentation, but I just wanted to very briefly tell you, even since my presentation and the information on my presentation, it's gotten a little bit worse than what it was. So we are very excited. Century Communities is the ninth largest home builder in the nation. We are third in Colorado and we are very committed to the Aurora communities. We have three different communities that we're currently building in and we have one and out in Southeast Aurora that's getting out of the ground and we're doing some infrastructure for a school site that is there. So unfortunately, what has happened and I'm trying to get my thing to advance, sorry. There we go. Debbie already went through all the history on this project and so I won't repeat that for you. What I do wanna talk about is that we currently have in filing 17 of Aurora Highlands, which is the project that's immediately adjacent to filing 21, we still have 45 lots left to sell. That at our current rate that is in the market, which is similar to everybody else in the market, would mean we still have 22 months worth of lots left in that market. We also have additional lots within Windler and within the Painted Prairie community that are 205 lots in Windler and 175 lots in Painted Prairie. With even significant price reductions and incentives and trying to manage our business, home sales have fallen significantly since 2022. The largest slowing period was last year, and pursuant to a lot of analysis, again, done by John Burns and other folks in the market, it's not looking to be a whole bunch better for the remainder of this year. So, as you can see, we've got a lot of reds and a lot of going down. If anybody needs me to zoom in on anything, please let me know. This is just some more information that is, again, showing the market conditions and more data. Again, as you can see, April of this year was very bad. It's been very slow. It's been slowly declining. There are a lot of market. There are a lot of product out in the Aurora Highlands communities. And I know I'm going sort of quickly, because I don't want to, but if anybody has any questions, I'm happy to answer them. We are requesting this, because this project was originally a part of the mast overlock grading that was done in Aurora Highlands early on. if we were to build this right now, we would have a lot of infrastructure that would sit there and not be utilized and not be built on for a period of time. With that being said, if we built that infrastructure and then the over-excavation, which if everyone knows, is a method to mitigate the expanding soils, if it dries out over the time that those lots sit there, we would have to go back in and redo them and that presents problems to the infrastructure and potential damage to infrastructure if it's installed prior to having that over X operation done. We just strongly believe that we're trying to manage all the lots that we have in this general sub market area. We are building certain types of units in Windler. We're building a little bit different types of units over in Payne and Prairie. And then we have in Aurora Highlands, our largest segment of the product that we're offering in Aurora. And that is the segment that is a little tougher to sell these days just because affordability is so important to home buyers, particularly with the rates. So we're just trying to make sure that we don't put money and infrastructure and everything else in the ground and have it deteriorate while it's waiting to be built on. We'd rather have it fresh and new and viable when we do start building on it. The other issue that comes up with this is that it doesn't make sense. And the reason we're asking for the extension of the plot is that we intend to build the plat as it is when the time is appropriate. We don't anticipate doing any changes. We certainly agree with making sure we're up to the current standards for the construction documents at the time that we do move forward. But if we were to basically throw away the approval of the plat and have to start back over, that's just more money that has to be put in that gets passed on to an eventual homeowner that we'd rather not do. We'd rather try to keep things as affordable as possible and just build the things when they're needed and not way out in advance. So I don't have anything else to go through. Oh, I have one more file. Debbie already walked through the approval criteria, the conditions of the approval, and I don't have anything else if anybody has any Questions of me, I'm happy to answer.

38:15Speaker 6

Thank you for your presentation, Cindy. Questions from the commission for the applicant?

38:23Speaker 7

Commissioner Banca.

38:28Speaker 11

I don't have a question for her, but I will.

38:32Speaker 6

Is it a question for staff?

38:35 – 38:47Speaker 14

No, I just wanted to confirm. what she's saying, because I just pulled stats for single-family residential, and the market's been rather bleak. That's all.

38:48Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you, Commissioner. Questions for the applicant or staff? Commissioner Hogan.

38:56 – 39:29Speaker 15

Thank you very much, Cindy, for your presentation. Sometimes bad news has to be delivered so we know the current condition. That being said, and correct me if I'm incorrect, it sounds like this is not only happening for century communities, but other home builders surrounding you. Is that correct? So it's not, you're not the only kid on the block that's having issues right now. Is that correct?

39:30 – 40:00Speaker 20

You are 100% correct. I know that there have been other builders in other communities that have chosen not to move forward on projects. They just said we're not going to build as opposed to Century is saying we do want to build, we just want to build at the right time. But yes, there are definitely others that have just walked away from projects.

40:02 – 40:32Speaker 15

And my next question is, let's say we did not grant this and you went, you were forced to go forward and then you couldn't complete the project. So you would be, for instance, 10% invested in this, which in my mind could be worse if you were not able to complete the project, but had initiated some infrastructure. Is that correct?

40:35 – 42:29Speaker 20

So there, there are two options. If you chose not to grant this one is that, um, we would choose to go ahead if we choose to go ahead and build it, which is not likely, um, the plot would expire. And then at some point we would have to come back through the process and all the money that we have invested in doing the entitlements, which, um, as I'm sure you guys are aware is, is not a, a small amount of money. Um, because you've got all the engineering and all the, you know, those kinds of things, all that would have to be redone. And then we would, instead of just maybe being updated, it'd have to be redone and go through the whole process again. And that's just more money that would be added to the eventual cost of a home for the home buyers. So the two options we would have is to let the plot expire and not move forward. or to move forward and have potential damage or infrastructure sitting there that is not being used. And I will tell you that roadways and that kind of stuff are intended to be driven on and to have certain weights and everything else. And when you have roads that, I apologize, my light automatically goes off. I don't move enough. If you have roadways that just sit, they don't have traffic on them and you don't have those kind of things, they tend to have problems because they don't have the weight keeping them down and keeping them in place where they need to be and those kind of things. You see roads deteriorate pretty quickly if they don't have the traffic that's anticipated for it. It's never really a good idea to install infrastructure just to have it set. Same thing with

42:30 – 43:14Speaker 22

water systems you don't want to have water systems sit and have them be stale and and that kind of thing so yep that was my point exactly thank you cindy certainly commissioner becker uh you're muted commissioner oh sorry thank you so much um just all the technical difficulties tonight um quick question just for staff uh this is my first um kind of project. I'm a little rusty when it comes to these kind of extensions. How many extensions can be given? Is there like a three limit on an extension or is it just is it contingent on the project?

43:14 – 43:51Speaker 12

Based on this section that you are seeing that is up on the screen right now. The planning director can grant one extension not to exceed a year and then planning convention can approve one extension not to exceed two years and that's it. Joenne McGerr, Ecology, Thank you, and then, and then they have the choice of letting it. Joenne McGerr, Ecology, expire or actually proceeding to record the action of the plat once the plat is recorded. Joenne McGerr, Ecology, it's for lack of can't think of the correct word it's vested it does not it does not expire at that point.

43:51Speaker 7

Joenne McGerr, Ecology, Thank you, that answer your question.

43:55Speaker 5

Kjell Anderson , City of Boulder OSMP, Further questions for the applicant or staff.

44:01 – 44:18Speaker 6

Okay, Susan, do we have any members of the public sign up to speak on 2A? Oh, sorry, 8A? Chair, we do not. Okay, final opportunity for questions. Seeing none, I'll close this portion of the public hearing and entertain a motion on agenda item 8A.

44:19 – 45:25Speaker 17

This is Commissioner Shachek. With regard to agenda item 8A, A, subdivision plan extension. Based on the staff recommendation, the presentation and discussion at this evening's public hearing, I move to approve the subdivision plan extension because the applicant has provided just cause for code section 146-5.3.14.C of the UDO and because the applicant shall comply with the following. The subdivision plat will meet the requirement of the subdivision plat checklist at the time of recordation. The applicant will be required to conform with city standards and the roadway manual criteria at the same time of civil plan review. The extension will not impact the delivery of required services or utilities for other development and the site will be stabilized during the plat extension period.

45:27 – 45:44Speaker 6

Great. Thank you, Commissioner Jacek. It's been moved to approve agenda item 8A. Is there a second? Commissioner Becker, thank you. It's been moved and seconded to approve 8A. I'll open up the floor for discussion. Commissioner Hogan.

45:45 – 46:26Speaker 15

Chair Wallace, I am going to support this for the reasons stated. I do believe that trying to do something where you know will not be successful is not only a black eye to a home builder, but a black eye to a community and to an approval process. I also think that this is reasonable and I believe in this day and age to add unneeded costs to a home that will be delivered to a resident when we could grant an extension is silly. So I will be supporting this.

46:27 – 47:44Speaker 6

Thank you, Commissioner Hogan. I would like to add, I think I have sort of a split, I guess, feeling or understanding of this agenda item. I will support it because I'm a strong believer in developers right to use their land and right to develop it when conditions are favorable. but I wanna caution the applicant. You've just made yourselves a gigantic target for most of the policy makers in the state of Colorado that are on a massive push for affordable housing and more inventory to be added to the market. And you're essentially coming to the city of Aurora and asking the planning commission to grant an extension. And you were very careful not to say any of this, but you said we've reduced price a little bit, but there's a lot of supply. And so we can't sell our homes at the profit amount that we want to make, so we're not going to build them. It's not a great statement, and I would just say be prepared for that backlash when policymakers latch on to builders starting to reduce their plans that we've already approved and already moved forward, but now because it's a buyer's market, it's no longer favorable for development. That's a double-edged sword there, so just caution. But I will be supporting this particular agenda item. I do believe that an extension is in order, but it's not a great look.

47:44 – 48:26Speaker 14

century homes or the aurora islands uh commissioner benka um i would just like to um ditto what becky said and um i know the market is very difficult i do the stats that go out to the media for adams and arapahoe county and aurora and um the market is very difficult um We are in a period where we're losing jobs. We have a net out migration and interest rates are higher than what they've been the last few years. So, you know, I applaud them for doing an extension and trying to do the right thing at the right time.

48:26Speaker 6

Commissioner Riley.

48:29 – 48:59Mike Riley

Thank you. I live very near the area and I was concerned about the final erosion control stabilization plan. I just want to make sure that that still will be put into effect in concert with Aurora Water, because again, a lot of these open areas right now are, well, when we get rain, they erode and they wind up on the streets or along the side with sediment. So I want to make sure that the grading and the stabilization continues.

49:00Speaker 6

Thank you, Commissioner Riley.

49:02Speaker 5

Further discussion on the approval of 8A? Seeing none, I'll call the roll. Commissioner Jachek? Approve. Commissioner Bush.

49:13Speaker 5

Commissioner Becker. Approve. Commissioner Benka. Approve. Commissioner Riley.

49:22Speaker 6

Commissioner Hogan. Approve. And Commissioner Walz also votes to approve. Agenda item 8A is approved.

49:31Speaker 7

Thank you for your time, Commissioners.

49:34 – 50:02Speaker 6

Thank you, Cindy. We'll go to agenda item 8C. which is the Havana Street ADU. Recording for the minutes, commissioner site visits. Becker, Busch, Jacek, Benka, Hogan, Riley, and Walz. Okay, agenda item eight C, the caption. The Havana Street ADU conditional use located in ward one. Our case manager this evening is Stacy Wassinger, the applicant Manuel Casas Salcedo. Stacy, the floor is yours.

50:03 – 56:12Speaker 21

Thank you commissioners. Good evening commissioners. My name is Stacey Wassinger. I'm here to present the staff report for this item. The request is a conditional use approval for an accessory dwelling unit in the original Aurora R1 zone with one condition recommended from staff to essentially adhere to the site plan as presented here when they move to building permits. no adjustments are requested with this with this conditional use here's the vicinity map showing the subject site it's between 23rd and 22nd avenue on north havana street here's a close-up aerial showing the existing conditions on site there is a single family dwelling and then a current existing detached garage which is the subject of this conditional use request and as well as a existing driveway off of the alley here. Here's the zoning map showing that the majority of the zoning in the area is that MUOA R1. There is some original Aurora medium density directly to the east of the site, and then parks and open space for the Moorhead Recreation Center to the north side of 23rd Avenue. Here are a couple of the site photos showing the existing garage. This is In conformance, not conformance, it does match the materials of the existing house as well. It's built with the brick and similar materials, and that is not proposed to change except for the removal of the garage door and the addition of a window and a door. Here's a photo of the existing front single family residence from Havana Street. Uh, here's the bird's eye view from Google maps kind of showing the, the layout of the site that you can see. It's the same, you know, same, or a little bit shorter of height in the back with this existing garage. That's proposed to be converted a driveway that is wide enough to accommodate the off street parking requirements for these both the single family residents and the. Um, as well as on street parking along Havana street for guest parking potentially. Eight adjacent property owners and 22 registered neighborhood organizations were notified. A neighborhood meeting was not held. There were two comments received that are in the packet as Exhibit D, both from neighborhood organizations. One expressed no objection to the request. The other expressed some concern about EDUs in general and their impact on neighborhoods and density for the area. the issues that were discussed through the conditional use permit review we're building in site design and then meeting those use specific standards in the UDO for ADUs here's the layout proposed again no building is being constructed they're proposing to convert the existing detached garage to an ADU here you'll see they have due DO HAVE TWO PARKING STALLS FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS AND ONE PARKING STALL FOR THE ADU WHICH IS REQUIRED BY CODE. THEY HAVE ADEQUATE BACKYARD SPACE FOR BOTH THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS AND THE ADU HERE. THESE ARE THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS. THE SOUTH AND EAST ELEVATIONS ARE NOT REALLY PROPOSED TO BE MODIFIED. THE NORTH ELEVATION WHICH IS WHERE THE Existing garage store is where that garage store would be removed in a window and and, um, closed off with the window being placed there and then the West elevation, um, adding a window as well. And this is proposed to be a 2 bedroom 1 bath approximately 530 square feet. So, the use specific standards here are met as described in the staff report. Um, the. Going back one thing here, I do want to mention that the existing site setback is legal nonconforming, so it can continue to exist even though it is legal nonconforming. There would be any expansion or additions to this building would have to meet current code though. And so this is the conditional use criteria essentially that is complying with all the applicable standards in the comprehensive plan. and that the impacts to the existing or surrounding neighborhood and infrastructure and public improvements are not expected to be detrimental to those other tenants or occupants. So the approval criteria notes this request, uh complies with the aurora places comprehensive plan and will have minimal impact because it is utilizing the existing structure no additional driveway cuts or anything that might have increased the intent additional intensity of that that use um or sorry not increase in height or size and the existing driveway can accommodate all of the required off-street parking and it does provide an additional housing opportunity. So with that, the staff findings are that staff recommends approval on agenda item 8C with one condition that the building permits submittals for the ADU must be consistent with the proposed plan and elevations. With that, I will conclude my presentation and the owner applicant is also present to answer any questions the Commission may have.

56:13Speaker 6

Great, thank you for the presentation, Stacey.

56:15 – 56:28Speaker 5

I'll open the floor for questions from the commission for staff or the applicant. Okay, seeing none, Susan, do we have any members of the public sign up to speak on 8C?

56:29 – 56:41Speaker 6

Chair, we do not. Okay, final opportunity for questions. Seeing none, we will close this portion of the public hearing and I'll entertain a motion on agenda item 8C.

56:45Speaker 5

everyone looks at the screen to see if someone else is going to move before them.

56:53 – 58:08Melvin Bush

Commissioner Bush. Yes, Chair. I would like to make a motion on Agenda Item 8C, Conditional Use for Accessory Dwelling Unit in a Mixed Use Original Aurora Lower Density Residential District. Based on the staff recommendation, and presentation and discussions at this evening's public hearing, I move to approve with one condition, the conditional use of the accessory dwelling unit in mixed-use original Aurora Lower Density Residential District. Because of the proposal complies with the requirements of Code section 146-5.4.3.8.3 of the Unified Development Ordinance, the reasons stated in the staff report approval is to be subject to the following condition building permits submittals for the adu must be consistent with the proposal plan and elevations great thank you commissioner bush it's been moved to approve agenda item 8c is their second thank you commissioner riley it's been moved and seconded to approve 8c i'll open the floor for discussion

58:12Speaker 5

Commissioner Becker.

58:13 – 58:37Speaker 22

I just want to say like it's really great to see this kind of these kind of developments coming through, especially because you usually with accessory dwelling units, it's. I'm going to be voting to approve this obviously, because I just think it's a creative use of the space. I usually see a garage going up and it's nice to see it just being utilized as it as it is in a way, so I I love the creativity that comes with this.

58:40 – 58:51Speaker 5

Thank you, Commissioner Becker. Further discussion on 8C? Okay, seeing none, I'll call the roll. Commissioner Jacek? Approve. Commissioner Bush?

58:52Speaker 5

Commissioner Becker? Approve. Commissioner Banka? Approve. Commissioner Riley?

58:59Speaker 5

Commissioner Hogan?

59:02 – 59:36Speaker 6

Approve. And Commissioner Walz also votes to approve. Agenda item 8C is approved. Seven votes. Hey, agenda item 8D, which is the Apple Green at Aurora and B amendment number one, site plan. Amendment with adjustment in Ward 2. Recording for the minutes. Commissioner site visits. Becker, Bush, Jachik, Banka, Hogan, Riley, and Walls. Okay, agenda item 8D. Our case manager this evening is Eric Gates. The app, again, is Petro Gas Group Limited. Eric, the floor is yours.

59:38Speaker 5

Great. Thank you, Chair. I'll just share my screen real quick here.

59:44 – 1:03:02Speaker 19

So as you mentioned, this is a proposal for the Apple Green at Aurora Northbound Amendment number one, a site plan amendment and sign adjustment. And after my presentation, any questions that you might have for me, the applicant's team is here and available and I will hand the floor over to them. So the applicant Petrograss Group is requesting approval of a site plan amendment for a motor vehicle fueling station and mixed retail uses with an adjustment from section 146-410-5E to allow for a three foot tall, almost 240 square foot double sided multi-tenant monument sign. So here's a general vicinity map of the area. As you can see, this site is right adjacent to E470. And in fact, this site has been previously approved. That's why it's an amendment to the existing plan. It was approved last year. And the site is a, this used to be the E470 toll area site. The whole building is being redeveloped for a gas station and some retail as well. And all the access, Here's an overhead of the site. You can see some work is already being done here. Adjacent to the site is the future Aspen Business Park development, which is intended to be warehousing distribution. There's also RV Aurora RV parking for Aurora over here across the E-470 and then unincorporated Arapahoe County to the south. Right now immediately adjacent is Solar Field. So here's the zoning for the area. As you can see, the site is split between the APZ and the AD Zone District. That was more relevant when this was originally getting approved. The APZ does not allow fuel, fueling uses. So all the fueling uses are within the AD zone district. But yeah, so the site is mostly AD with a little bit of APZ. Like I said, to the south is unincorporated Arapahoe County. And then a little further away, you have the Murphy Creek Plan Development District and some parks and open space as well further away. So here's a photo of the site looking directly east towards the site along E470. As you can see, construction is already underway for the existing approved site plan. And then here is a view from the site as you're coming up north on E470. I included two views of the site, and I'll explain it a little more as we get into it. But generally, I wanted to give you an idea of where the off ramp for this site begins and how much time you know, from that off ramp to a sign that's about, you know, where the barrier is, what that distance is.

1:03:02Speaker 8

That'll be relevant in a minute here. Okay.

1:03:10 – 1:03:30Speaker 19

So notice of this approval was sent to five adjacent property owners and 12 registered neighborhood organizations. And notice, sign notice was placed on site and mailings were sent out as well. No comments were received during staff review or following the notice for this hearing. So a neighborhood meeting was not held.

1:03:36 – 1:08:50Speaker 19

So some of the issues that staff discussed during review was the justification for that sign adjustment and then the other layout changes that were proposed. So getting into the sign adjustment, the sign adjustment is the main reason why this project is coming in front of the Planning Commission here today. In our code, that section, in that code section 410.5E, that allows for developments that have multiple tenants to have a multi-tenant sign. This is in addition to their regular signage allowances. But that sign in the code is 100 square feet and 14 feet high. The applicant is proposing a sign closer to 240 square feet and 30 feet high. The reason for this is largely due to the location of the site. As I mentioned earlier, this site is immediately adjacent to E470. It is intended for drivers on E470, and there is no public access to the site other than on E470. So the sign, this is a very unique site, the sign needs to be functional for E470 drivers. And so the reason the sign is so large is because E470 is a 75 mile an hour roadway. The sign needs to be big enough to be seen by drivers driving up E470, see the sign, and then make a decision to get off if they wish in a safe manner. So having the sign big increases visibility for those drivers who are going upwards of 75 miles an hour. In addition, the site is relatively isolated. There are going to be no other businesses that get access directly off of E-470. the whole county so the visual effects and impact on adjacent property owners is very minimal as well so getting into the other site changes as I mentioned the main reason this is coming is for the sign adjustment all of the other changes to the site normally would be administratively approvable by staff it's just really that sign adjustment that requires a hearing But I do want to share the other changes proposed so that you have some context for the site and as a reminder for what is going on here. So this is the original site plan and I just pulled this page from the plan set. So this red lined area is not all of the changes. Some of the other changes are pointed out on other sheets, which are also in the packet. But just to quickly go through the other changes. Originally, there was some diesel fueling proposed towards the south side of the site that has been removed and replaced with parking. Some of the EV charging spaces have been reorganized. There's no loss in parking or handicapped spaces with that change. then it's not really shown on this seat but originally there was a on-site wastewater treatment facility proposed up here that has since been removed the applicant is able to get utility access from the cities into existing utilities so that treatment plant is being removed as well and then there are a variety of smaller changes I believe a fire hydrant has been moved changes to the trash enclosure as well. Staff has reviewed these changes and they do comply with code standards. So in review and in compliance with the City of Aurora zoning code, major adjustments, criteria approval, the sign is placed so that it is adjacent to and directed toward E470. It's not near any adjacent development street or pedestrian facilities. There's no previous conditions of approval applied by the Planning and Zoning Commission or City Council that would be violated by the approval of this adjustment. And the amount of additional signage is needed to provide meaningful visibility for a site with limited access, only available from a high-speed right-of-way, and will not significantly impact the visual character of surrounding areas. And so based on the findings of staff and compliance with the appropriate sections of the UDO, staff recommends approval for item 8D site plan amendment and sign adjustment to allow for a 30 foot tall 239.3 square foot double sided multi tenured monument sign with one condition, that being the resolution of all outstanding technical issues prior to recordation of the site plan and issuance of any building permits. That is all I have. I'm happy to answer any questions of the commission. Otherwise, I will hand it over to the applicant.

1:08:51Speaker 6

Great. Thank you, Eric. Open the floor for questions from the commission for staff. Commissioner Riley.

1:08:57 – 1:09:22Mike Riley

Thank you. I'm I guess fairly new to planning zoning, so I wasn't around when this initial site plan was done. Is it expected that there will be more of these sites along E470, and what coordination has to be done with the state in order to facilitate a project like this occurring?

1:09:23 – 1:09:40Speaker 19

Gotcha. So the applicant may be able to give a little more insight into that, but I would say at this time we don't anticipate more of these sites popping up, at least in the near future. This original, the original approval, which was administrative, I believe it was administrative,

1:09:43 – 1:10:15Speaker 15

that was a reuse of the existing toll booth site and the site is leased from e470 directly okay thank you uh commissioner hogan eric you mentioned this a couple times but i just want to confirm there is not there is no access to this site from gun club is that correct even though they have what appears to be like a maintenance road in there?

1:10:15Speaker 19

Yeah, there's no public access. So as you mentioned, there is a maintenance road that will connect, you know, fire would have access as well to that, but there's no public access.

1:10:26 – 1:10:47Speaker 15

Commissioner Walz, may I ask one more question, please? And I have made my apologies if I missed this in the packet. Is this an electronic message board, an EMB sign, other than showing time and temperature? Like, can there be a free flow of messages on this?

1:10:48Speaker 19

No. The only electronic changeable message would be, you know, fuel pricing, I believe.

1:10:58Speaker 11

Can you confirm that?

1:11:00 – 1:11:11Speaker 19

Yeah. So there is no electronic messaging. I would need to double check with the applicant if they're showing fuel pricing. But as far as, you know, changeable copy that would qualify for electronic message board, no.

1:11:13Speaker 5

Thank you. Further questions for staff?

1:11:18Speaker 6

Okay, we will go to the applicant presentation. Please state your name for the record, and you may optionally state if you are an Aurora resident. You'll have 10 minutes to present.

1:11:40 – 1:16:52Speaker 16

Sorry, just took a second. This is Roger Wilson. I am a Arvada resident, 13688 West 59th Place, and I'm happy to say it's raining here. So as far as our presentation, are you going to run through the presentation, Eric? And I'll just kind of point for moving from slide to slide. Okay. Yeah, just tell me when to move. I really don't have a lot to add to what you've already done. I thank you very much for the presentation. Basically, we just put together a quick one. We did this for you guys to be able to visualize. If you would slide to the second slide, that would be great. This is just kind of an agenda of what we're going to do, talk about the variance. He already covered all that. I don't think we need to go into depth into that. If you would slide to the next one. This is a letter from E-470. giving approval for the monument and for the process that we're going through. And Chuck Wise with E470 is in attendance, or he was, I saw him on the list. If we could go to the next one. I'll answer your question that you had asked, Eric, and it was the fact that the gas price changers do change. Additionally, they have changers on the bottom, and that is for EV chargers. So they're going to tell you how many EV chargers they have and how many are available as you're driving by if you want to pull in and charge your vehicle. If we can go to the next one. I'm doing this fairly fast. I know you guys, this has been a long meeting. I want to get through it as quick as we can. The M that's on the bottom shows the setback. We're set back 20 feet from both corners. We moved it to the south end of the facility so that you have the greatest opportunity to see the display. Our biggest point, if you would slide to the next one, it just shows a little close-up of that. Our biggest point of reference here is safety. We want to ensure that you have the greatest opportunity to make the exit. And with multi-lanes and the speeds that we're talking about, standard codes don't address the speeds. And they say 75, but if you've been on there, it's even more than that. And it's kind of scary when you're sitting on the side of the road. But When you're going at 75, you have a limited opportunity, and it's a little over 1,200 feet, to make a safe egress to get off of the road. And that's what we're addressing by moving to the south end and by having this at the height and size that we have so you are afforded the opportunity to exit. If we could go to the next slide. This is a visual. He already covered that, so I don't really need to show this. If we go to the next one. This is actually a flagging that we did. So it gives you a perspective drawing. If you look at the one on the left, you can see the top of the sign and that is at the 30 foot height. And you can see that this is pretty busy. So we're trying to get your attention and show you that you need to get over to get to the egress to get into the facility as soon as possible. We moved up to 600 feet and you can see, I wish we had taken this more, current because we have the building behind it, and you could see that too, but this was taken a while back. If we could go to the next slide. This is our major problem, and there's nothing we can do to address it. It's blockage of the sign when you're in the road. There's really nothing we can do. This was taken from Google Maps. We were trying to grab the attention of where we were at. If we could go to the next one. This is just some calculations that show you the 1,212 feet that you need at the speed that we're at at 75 miles an hour. If you were at 55, you would have just shy of 900 feet. And at 45, you have 727 feet. That's the minimum distance from which the sign needs to be legible so you can provide adequate time to exit. If we would go to the next one. That's pretty much a calculation. They have huge calculations of 800 square feet. That's by CDOT and their calculation for how big they make their signs. Obviously, we're smaller than that, but they don't even go past 55 because the regs were at 55 when they did their studies. I think that is the end of what we had there. If you go to the next one. That's just saying thank you, 30 foot. We put 250. They do allow for a calculation of eight contiguous lines, and he has it at 239, and that's what we'll be using as our calculation. And I appreciate that, and I am open to any questions that you may have. We do have an owner's rep and some other people. If you have any other questions, I think they're open to that as well.

1:16:54Speaker 5

Great, thank you for the presentation, Roger. I'll open the floor for questions from the commission. Commissioner Hogan.

1:17:03Speaker 15

This may be a question for the owner's rep. Are you allowing overnight parking at your station?

1:17:12Speaker 1

Hi, this is Corey McGarry. I'm the vice president of construction for Applegreen. There will be no overnight parking allowed at the facilities, no.

1:17:22 – 1:17:34Speaker 5

Thank you. Further questions from the commission for the applicant? Okay. Susan, do we have any members of the public signed up to speak on 8D?

1:17:35Speaker 9

Chair, we do not.

1:17:37Speaker 6

Okay. I'll close this portion of the public hearing and entertain a motion on agenda item 8D.

1:17:51 – 1:18:25Speaker 22

Go ahead. Commissioner Becker. I will entertain a motion for agenda item 8D, site plan amendment with adjustment. Based on the staff recommendation, the presentation, and the discussion at this evening's public hearing, I move to approve with one condition the site plan amendment with an adjustment for multi-tenant monument sign because it complies with the requirements of code section 146-5.4.4.D.3 of the UDO for the reasons stated in the staff report.

1:18:26 – 1:20:06Speaker 6

Great. Thank you, Commissioner Becker. It's been moved to approve agenda item 8D. Is there a second? Thank you, Commissioner Benke. It's been moved and seconded to approve 8D. I'll open the floor for discussion on the motion. I'll start us off. I think that this makes a lot of sense. I drove all around the area as well as taking 470 to try and see what it would potentially look like. And I absolutely agree. And I think if there was the ability to add more signs further down, like political campaign style with billboards, that might be something to look into and easement leasing or something like that. But I think that this is absolutely necessary. It's really hard. And I was purposefully going, we'll say 75 for the record in the left lane, And the picture scenario happened to me. For the majority of it, there was a semi truck in the middle lane and I was blocked. And when I did finally see it, there was like a lot and there's no way I could have made it. So I think that this sign, this adjustment request and amendment are in order and I could support this. And I also wanted to add a thank you to the developers. the Apple Green Group. I think it was just about a year ago that this came before us, as we saw on the site plan. And I remember the extensive discussion about EV infrastructure and capability with those chargers. And I'm very happy to see the updated site plan, the plans for EV charging. Thank you so much for taking the comments from a hearing a year ago and implementing those as requested. So that's much appreciated.

1:20:07 – 1:20:29Speaker 5

Further discussion on 8D? I'll call the roll commissioner check. Approve commissioner bush. Approve commissioner becker. Approve commissioner banka. Approve commissioner reilly. I approve commissioner hogan.

1:20:31Speaker 5

And commissioner walls also votes to approve agenda item eight d is approved with seven votes.

1:20:39Speaker 6

Okay, Susan, do we have any members of the public Senate to speak on non-agenda items?

1:20:43Speaker 9

Chair Walz, we do not.

1:20:45 – 1:20:56Speaker 6

Okay, we will move into comments by commissioners. Any miscellaneous items of business or announcements by commissioners?

1:20:57Speaker 5

Commissioner Riley.

1:20:59 – 1:21:12Mike Riley

Thank you. So at boards of commission, we had great support from staff, and that's always welcome to have the to answer people there with us. So I want to commend staff for being there and thank you for bringing out my yellow sign.

1:21:16 – 1:21:58Speaker 6

For those of you that don't know what Commissioner Riley is talking about, we have a posting notice sign that staff specifically brought and proudly displayed on Commissioner Riley's behalf. So it was prominently displayed behind our tables. Yeah, I'd like to add on and thank Commissioner Hogan and Commissioner Riley for volunteering and for being there representing the Planning Commission and also Commissioner Benka. She had double duty between CABC, I believe, and Planning Commission. So thank you three commissioners for taking your time out of your evening during dinner time to do that. Much appreciated. Commissioner Hogan or Commissioner Benka was next, I think.

1:22:00 – 1:22:28Speaker 14

It's me. I have a question. I'm just curious, and maybe staff does or doesn't know, but are you seeing other builders that are coming forward wanting extensions given the current market conditions that we have? Or is that, do you not know that yet? I would, what Century did does not surprise me given the market.

1:22:30 – 1:22:58Speaker 10

but anyway i was just curious if you're seeing that from other home builders this is janine rustad director of planning and business development and brandon can confirm i believe i've signed about three or four of the planning director one year extensions in the past month or so yeah thank you i would also add um you know we

1:22:59 – 1:23:16Speaker 13

We do have some approaches where they do record it and just build it out slowly. So instead of building seven blocks at a time, they're going to build one block at a time. So we do see both approaches out there.

1:23:18Speaker 14

Got it. I was just curious. I will just say it's tough out there right now. I'm glad I'm not selling a house and I'm a realtor.

1:23:31Speaker 5

Thanks, Commissioner. I should say my nose. Okay, Commissioner Hogan.

1:23:37 – 1:25:13Speaker 15

A couple of things. Just to help me, because I sincerely look for the yellow signs, and I swear to God I drove around for an eternity looking at this particular agenda. And blessings to Commissioner Riley and to Susan Schapel for helping guide me through these. My point being, if there is something that does not have to be posted, because I am used to looking at public notification, if you just let me know, it's like schools, I don't expect to see a yellow sign because for now they don't have to put them there. But like on the Aurora places, I do understand that that wasn't required, but because of the preamble that we have in this meeting and because I'm looking for a yellow sign. If you just let us know in the agenda, no public notification required or something to that effect. So that's number one. Number two, the Aurora Sentinel has an article talking about the socioeconomic support of moving forward on impact permits. Where are we with that? And does that come back to Planning Commission or what's the, just kind of catch me up on where we are with that discussion. Do you know what I'm talking about?

1:25:14 – 1:25:33Speaker 6

My recollection, just only because I chair the Business Advisory Board, the Business Advisory Board received community feedback, hosted a town hall, then it Passed from there to council process, and it's already been was Monday night. Correct? It was. Yeah, reintroduced for 1st reading on Monday night. So it's in councils.

1:25:34Speaker 15

Arena at this point, so it does not come back to us at all. Is that correct?

1:25:41Speaker 6

Unless there are changes or they refer back to us. Is that correct? Director?

1:25:47 – 1:26:08Speaker 10

you are correct that this is changes to licensing not to zoning so licensing is also uh the responsible party for implementing this and then my last question is what's the update on harmony park or harmony places is that dead in the water what's the deal i

1:26:11 – 1:26:25Speaker 6

Only to get an answer basically on status. We're not going to discuss any merits or substance of the case, but I believe I haven't seen it come up on the agenda. So, I mean, Brandon, Janine, you can correct me, but I think it's still in process figuring out what to do next.

1:26:28Speaker 13

Are you referring to the all-in-one proposal? Yeah. Yeah, there's no status change from last meeting. Okay. Thank you.

1:26:41Speaker 5

Any comments, discussion, announcements? Commissioner Riley.

1:26:46 – 1:27:08Mike Riley

Thank you again. So to Commissioner Hogan's point about public notices, in the Sentinel, the Aurora Places Comprehensive Plan Amendment was listed as a public notice. And if a sign wasn't required, then why did they have to publish a notice of public hearing in the Sentinel? I'm just curious.

1:27:12 – 1:27:39Speaker 13

Chair, through you, Brandon Camerata, Planning and Development. So, as a comp plan, a comprehensive plan amendment has different set of notice regulations, and it does include a notice in a newspaper. It does not include a signposting. More often than not, you know, comp plan amendments are less site specific, but they have the same notice requirements.

1:27:41Mike Riley

And I appreciate that education. Thank you.

1:27:46 – 1:28:10Speaker 6

Further comments, questions, concerns, announcements? Just like to add, thank you to all the commissioners. This was a tour of Aurora, this agenda. It was like Ward 1 to Ward 6 and Ward 2, Wards 3 and 4 feel left out, certainly. But thank you guys for all those that did site visits. It was quite the tour. We will now go to our Planning Division Manager report. Brandon, the floor is yours.

1:28:12 – 1:29:43Speaker 13

Thank you, Chairman Walz. Administrative decisions since our last meeting, I believe just one, and that would be to the U-Haul facility that currently exists on Abilene, maybe two blocks north of ILIF. And they're doing an expansion to the back of their site for, I believe, another multi-story self-storage enclosed storage area there. In terms of any other updates, I already mentioned no status change for the all-in-one. I'm sure you all are hearing things about data centers and we're waiting for our instructions and we'll be working on those instructions from City Council that manifested on Monday as it relates to how to approach any additional regulation for data centers. And obviously, most of you may have perceived that there was a Timeline associated with that. And so we'll, we'll do our best to adhere to that, um, as anything that relates to a amendment, obviously, by by code and statute has to come to you all 1st. So we will do our best to keep you updated on the process of those things and and see how it goes.

1:29:46Speaker 8

That's my report for today.

1:29:50Speaker 7

Great. Thank you, Brandon. Questions for Brandon? Becky, are you sure?

1:30:01Speaker 6

All right. Thank you. Good job, Brandon.

1:30:04Speaker 5

Thank you, Brandon. We'll go to our city attorney report. Lina, you're up.

1:30:12Speaker 11

No report this evening, Chair.

1:30:14Speaker 5

Great. Questions for Lina? Okay, thank you guys.

1:30:20 – 1:30:31Speaker 6

Final opportunity for any announcements before we adjourn? Seeing none, I move that we adjourn this evening's meeting. Do I have a second? Commissioner Riley, thank you. Have a great evening, everyone. Take care, everybody.

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