City Council - Regular Meeting

Good evening. I'd like to call a meeting to order tonight. It's Tuesday, February 17th, 2026. And if you join me with the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Now, Pastor M. Martin from the First Baptist Church will lead us in prayer.

Amen. Let us pray. Father, we want to start off this by just saying thank you for another beautiful day that you have given us and another opportunity to serve you in this city. Lord, we thank you for the city of Augusta. We thank you for all the people and all these leaders that we have here today. We thank you for the safety and the provision that you have given us for so so long. Lord, we thank you also just for these leaders. Every time we have these council meetings, want to say thank you for them because they are taking that def difficult call to leadership seriously and we thank you for that. Lord, we just pray for just your discernment over any decisions that are being made here. We ask your blessing over our city and our people here. We ask your blessing over these leaders. And just we welcome you into this space. And ultimately, Lord, the thing that we are the most thankful for is that there is a way of salvation through Jesus Christ who died on the cross and rose again. and he's made a way for any and all to find forgiveness, Lord. So, we thank you so much for that. But once again, we welcome you into this place and time and we love you in your name I pray. Amen.

Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you, pastor. That brings us for to our first itin which is the approval of the minutes from the previous meeting. Council, I move for the approval of the minutes of the February 2nd, 2026 city council meeting. Second. Second. Got a motion and a second. All those in favor say I. I.

Any opposed? Motion carries. Now we'll move down to our appropriation ordinance number two. Review it and approve it. Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve the ordinance number two appropriation ordinance number two dated February 11, 2026. Second. Got a motion and a second. All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Now, I'd like to uh call Jamie Barton up as she's going to tell us about our 250th anniversary commemoration celebrations that are coming up.

My name is Jamie Martin and I'm here representing the Augusta Celebrate Center. along here this evening to share some events with within the committee are members from different organizations around the city in order to make sure we able within the community. The committee was initially broken down into six areas of focus. veterans, youth, businesses downtown, the ministerial alliance, historical and arts. From there, we begin planning the events that will take place. In your folders that you've been given, you'll find the following information. A list of the committee members, a letter being sent um from the committee to businesses, individuals, and organizations, a tenative calendar of events, and flyers for several of the events that have already been planned. Next to me is one of the historical panels that the Augusta Historical Museum has been working on to tell um a little bit about Augusta's history. At this time they have five panels ready for display and they have five more in the works. The Daughters of the American Revolution are going to work with the museum uh to showcase Kansas pioneer patriots um as well in August. June is a loaded month full of lots of events, but one I really want to highlight are the American Revolutionary who will come to the theater for three nights in the last weekend of June. And on Saturday, June 28th, to tie it all together, we're going to host an evening church service for all community members to attend our focus, not only this, but others as well. As we all know, getting the word out to

our community about events has proven to be difficult over the last few years. And we know that the majority of news gets posted on social media, but other than that, we're limited to sharing events and flyers with this community. So, we're not asking the city for funding for events, but we are asking the city to help us two different ways. First, the committee is requesting that the city help us spread the word by sharing the utility bill for all the households to see similar to what is done with the trash collection. And second, the Daughters of the American Revolution would like to put together the option for citizens to purchase veterans banners that Ohio and V would be in charge of sales, collecting the information and the veterans about the veterans and then ordering the banners as well. However, we would need the city to take them, take them down, and store them. The suggestion is to have the banners hung for two years and then given to the family at the end of the two years. So banners will be displayed during November. We as a committee are committed to spreading the word of all events focused on celebrating America and welcome members, organizations and businesses to join us as we celebrate this special time for our country. As you can see, this committee has been busy playing to make the celebration of America's 250 250th birthday a success within our community and we hope that the council will join us in spreading this information to our community.

Jamie, can we pause you for a minute? Yeah, seems we have some audio trouble. Um, can you lean forward really close to the mic and see if we can get it to come through? Can you speak a little bit louder? That mic's not picking up. Make sure it's on. Make sure it's plugged in. There you go. It's on now. Okay. She hit it with her. Do we start again? Hit some highlights.

Okay. Um, so the in the folders that you have in front of you, you've seen the flyers, the tentative calendar of events, the letter that's going to be sent to businesses. And so next to me is the historical panel um that the Augusta Historical Museum's been working on um to celebrate some of Augusta's history. And they're going to partner with the D um in order to have um some of Kansas his historical patriots um as well when those come to us in August. Um June is a huge month for uh this committee with a lot of events happening at that time. And one of the events that we want to highlight are the revolutionary reenactors. Uh they will come the last week of June and on Sunday, June 28th to tie it all together. Uh we'll host an evening church service for all community members to attend, which we believe will gather folks from not only this community but other communities as well. Um the question that we have for you is we know that getting the information out to community members is is difficult and uh one of the requests that we have is that um we want the committee or excuse me the committee is requesting that the city help us spread the word by sharing a calendar of events in the utility bill for all Augusta households to see similar to what is done with the trash collection. And second, the Daughters of the American Revolution would like to put together the option for citizens to purchase veterans banners that would be hung on Ohio and maybe even Seventh Street depending on the interest in those banners. The D would be in charge of sales, collecting information about the veterans, ordering and ordering those banners. However, we would need the city to hang them, take them down, and uh store them for us. And the suggestion has been that those would those would go for 2 years. and after two years they would be given to the family. Um and then the banners would be displayed during November and May.

Any questions? I don't have any I don't have any questions, Jamie. I just commend the effort and organization. This is tremendous. So well done. Thanks. Got a great a great committee. As you can see, the folks that are listed um that are part of this committee are they range all throughout the city and that was the goal. We wanted to have a lot of input from a lot of different people. Where where can people see the um poster contest rules?

So, those are going to be uh sent out to uh the schools um and then we will also post them online. Um, but that's another thing that we're we're discussing. So, those that co that poster contest um is not just going to be for uh children in the Augusta schools, but it could be for parochial schools or um anyone that's homeschooled as well um that lives in the Augusta area. Okay.

So, the the goal to get those out would be specifically going out to the schools, but we would try and find um another route as well to get those out. of course posting online um with a specific a kind of more detailed banner and then we are working on a website um that potentially we can have up and running with some of these items on there as well. Are you going to send home this calendar of events with the kids? Yeah. So, I think that um it's something we'd like to see, but the question that we're posing is that that does go out um because we know that not all households in Augusta um have students in,

right? a homesooled family, so I it's hard, but at least you would reach as many families as you could. And I know that these events are amazing. Like families are going to want to go, but they're going to want to put them on their calendar early. And you'll notice the kids fest flyer in there as well. Um that KidsFest flyer is going to go home to all of the schools as well. It's going to be something that we're going to work with the businesses on. And then what we will do is um with those uh the businesses we'll set up around the rec center at the perimeter of the gym and families will be invited to come in from that time to do activities and games and things so that way we can kind of incorporate the youth as well. That's really cool. Yeah.

I have a question for staff about the mailing out of uh the information with the utility bills. Is that possible? And do you need an action from us to authorize that?

Yeah, it's possible. I I I can't remember if we developed a policy for that or not. Normally, we've kept it related to city business. In this case, you could look at it and say the city is partnering. If if you'd like to to say the city is partnering on the event. Um I just spoke with Erica. for the the onepage mailer of what's going out as a calendar probably be about $400 $450 something in that range. Um you have four you have 4,000ish utility bills about 9 cents a piece. So that that would be your cost for it. Um generally we haven't like if it's a pancake feed or other things that are out there we don't use the utility mailer for that. So we don't get in inundated with those sort of things. But in this case, if you're looking at as like a communitywide initiative, a communitywide uh calendar that the city is partnering on to ensure that the events go off, I I think that would be a suitable use.

Council, what do you guys think? I think that's fine. Yeah, I think that'd be a suitable use. I would make that mo I would make the motion to authorize city staff to include a flyer of the calendar of events and hang the banners and to hang the banners as requested. Second. Okay, I have a motion and a second. All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries.

Thank you. Um and just one more thing about the calendar. We and of course we'll work with um the city um on that calendar. Um and if we do end up getting a website, we'd like to include um a QR code or something to that website so it could direct people to see all of the events and and as you can tell on that calendar there there are not specific times yet on that, but we're working on that right now. So, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you, Jamie. Do you uh have a proclamation, Mr. Mayor?

So, I have a proclamation before me and it's pretty lengthy. So I'm going to read just parts of it. So now, therefore, be it proclaimed by the mayor and the city council of the city of Augusta, Kansas, that the city hereby recognize and supports Augusta Celebrates America 250 and encourages residents, organizations, businesses, and visitors to participate in activities and events leading up to the 250th anniversary of the United States in 2026. Be it further proclaimed that the city of Augusta affirms its commitment to honoring America's history, celebrating civic pride, and sharing Augusta's story as part of the American experience. Thank you very much, J.

Thank you. We appreciate you.

It's a once in 250 year event. So awesome.

I'll be here for the next Okay. Now, I would call for other visitors that are here that aren't on the agenda already, but I don't think there are any. It's good you had good representation of the committee here, Jamie. So, thank you gentlemen and ladies for helping. Okay. Our first item of business then is the citywide alley cleanup initiative presentation. Staff.

Yes. Uh mayor and council, as indicated on the staff report, there's no action item from this. Uh we just wanted to take an opportunity to showcase the work that some of our employees have been uh doing to tackle a problem that I think we've all recognized for a long time. uh we don't often get to showcase the the work that they're doing, but we thought it'd be a great opportunity. Our code enforcement officer, Tanner Thomas, he he helped put this program together and has been working through it, pulling in other employees as he can to to kind of assist, but we wanted to just showcase the work that he's doing to try to improve our community. And so, uh with that, Tanner, if you want to walk us through what you've been working on.

Uh good evening, Mayor and Council. So, just a brief overview of kind of what's transpired. So, last year, my first year being the code enforcement officer, I did receive several complaints about alleys throughout the town. Um, I know specifically along the Ohio corridor, we have se uh homes on the west side of Ohio that their mail service runs through the alleyways. So, USPS has an issue with it. You know, we have an issue with it. So, I tried a couple of different enforcement practices last year. door hangers, which is our typical, you know, first kind of um initiation with somebody. I knocked on doors, I left flyers, and then ultimately sending certified mail to try to get that enforcement um procedure going. And we really didn't have any luck. So then I started digging in. Currently, we have 6 and 12 miles of alleyways um within the corporate city limits, which equates to about 16 acres of land. And then when you start looking at the numbers of houses, it was going to cost $10,000 just to send certified mail to the houses in violation. Um, and then after that abatement, you're looking at a thousand plus dollars an acre to actually have a contractor come and clear them out. Um, and historically, we don't get paid back for a lot of those abatements until tax season rolls around and we get paid back on taxes. So, with city staff performing the one-time cleanup, uh, it's estimated $6,500. I think we're doing a little bit better than that right now. parks has worked with us and provided all the tools. So really our expense right now is just fuel and manh hours. Um right now we've done about six working days and we've cleared over a mile. So we're about a sixth of the way through and a week of work. So it's it's going pretty well. Um and as you can see on the pictures here, so this was a picture I took last summer. So this is a typical city of Augusta alley and in grow season. Um the issue is our alleys hold a lot of our in infrastructure, sewer mains, power lines, water lines. So when we have a service call out, say power goes out and the linemen have to go out there. If they're having to clear alleys

and clear trees to even get service equipment back there and people back there to fix the problem, it just takes, you know, more time than just being able to drive back there and do the job they need to do. So this is, you know, kind of our first step. We're going to be more proactive in it going into this next year once we get cleaned up. It's it's much easier to look down an alley and say, "I've got one or two people instead of 50 people that need, you know, talk to or worked with." So, that's the goal is to get them drivable, get them cleaned up, get them back to a place where homeowners can, you know, it's not as overwhelming as this. They can have a kind of a fresh slate to start and pick back up on their own. I think there's one more picture at the very end that'll show just kind of how much it's in the power lines. So, this is just regular these sucker trees. I mean, that's a year maybe two of growth. Those sucker trees grow super fast and that's already in all of those power lines. So, we're really trying to get them out of the lines, get it cleaned up, and hopefully solve some outage problems while we're at it.

Yes. Yeah. And if I can add on, I know the electric department is also kind of going through an initiative of clearing out the tall trees and the lines as well. Um, and then code enforcement and parks are kind of tacking onto that to get some of the stuff on the ground more. And um, cuz when those line they go in to clear the trees, they're clearing them at a really high level. And so we wanted a way to partner to be able to clean up the whole alley so we have a visible improvement for everyone.

And uh mayor and council, what what I would say is um that there's there's the rules, the regulations, the laws that you have in place and what they say. And then you have like the the practical application and the impact and the concerns that arise from trying to enforce that. And in this case, your laws make the adjoining property owners responsible. Ultimately, we want them taking responsibility and maintaining that. In some cases, uh the alleyways have gotten really out of hand, but they've gotten out of hand to the point that they impact a lot of other aspects of our operations, as Hanner said, impact uh the mail delivery, other things of uh of that nature. And we've tried to give our team some freedom to ultimately get to the outcome of abatement. And in this case, through some of their analysis, what they've determined, at least as a starting point is it seems like if the goal is abatement, that us trying to take the lead on on some kind of initial work is cheaper than us going about just trying to enforce through our normal procedures. And so we were willing to support the effort and encourage them if that hopefully um that doesn't become something that we have to sustain over and over and over. But if we could couple this with the information efforts and working with those adjoining property owners um after and they become aware of their responsibility but we've given them a cleaner slate to start with. Uh I think it was a worthwhile program to try and uh you lay out the analysis like that it makes it it makes sense if the goal is abatement at least as an initial practice. So I appreciate uh the the hard work the creative thinking just to try something and ultimately we'll we'll see we'll see how it goes.

And that was the goal was to get it back to baseline. Um we recognize that it can be really overwhelming when you look at these alleys. it's overwhelming to try and figure out where to start. Um, and to have the resources to be able to tackle that. Um, so the goal is to get it to baseline and then ramp up the the enforcement side um to keep it under control a lot better than maybe we have in the past. That's the hope and the plan. So So after we clean it up, then we'll be more of a stickler on the enforcement. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Tanner, nice job. Thank you.

Yeah, it looks great. Um Josh and Cammy, from that vantage point, is has there been any discussion to provide Well, let me back up to ask for local service providers that might be partners in this work. That could be a list of resources that the city could leave homeowners after they've done this work. so that if if citizens either are unable to they've got resources available to them that they could call on an ongoing basis. Has there been any conversation around any?

So the so the thought is like we have a landlord list if you're moving to town and you're trying to find a home. If um a a lawn service or a yard service or yard maintenance list that hey if you're looking for help and you can't do it we're able to hand is am I understand something similar to that? Yes. Yeah. Um, I I don't know that we've come up with that idea, but like it doesn't it doesn't hurt my feelings in any way.

I'm saying you put it out as a request for not request for proposal, but a request for that type of if they seek to advertise themselves as such, they can put their names on that list, right? I know the city's not proactively placing people on the landlord list. That list I think is uh dinosaur as far as some of the accuracy of the information on there and we'll want to balance that in some way so the city isn't necessarily like actively promoting any particular businesses. So we can brainstorm around that a little bit and and see if we can come up conceptually with some ideas.

But that was one thought I had. The second thought I had was could we also have in that same discussion if a homeowner has the ability to maybe go out there and do some routine maintenance as far as cutting down but maybe lacks the ability to haul off, could there be some partnership where they could contact the city for a nominal fee or something that includes that service? So don't have to solve it here, but that's if your hope is to have increased participation, you got to get to the root cause of what caused maybe some of the lack of participation. Y

do the trash people pick up trash in the alleys anymore? It's all out on the street. It's curbside collection. You can use the automated system. I mean, you'll have alleyways downtown for the commercial pickups, but in the residential areas, it's pretty uncommon, if it's out there at all. Great. Is there something to vote on here? Because it No, no, no. This is just information. We wanted to showcase the work and Okay. Again, it's a little bit different approach to abatement that that's kind of focused on outcome rather than process. and we just wanted to highlight something that we were trying. Y thanks. Thank you, Tamara. Thank you.

That's wonderful. Appreciate it. Appreciate the effort.

Okay. Item number two, an ordinance number 2261, amendment to city code 8-207 regarding noxious weeds. Staff,

we'll turn it to Tanner Thomas. Good evening, mayor and council. Uh, so tonight I'll be presenting you with a proposed amendment to the noxious weed code, chapter 8, article 2, section 7. Um, so a bit of background. Uh, last year we received a complaint for binding weed growing from a neighboring property into another adjoining backyard. Um, we investigated it at that time. Our current code, it's in the weed code. Our current abatement process is if it's over 8 in, we send them a violation letter. They either cut it, if not, then we abatement mow it. Um, for noxious weeds, there's nothing specifically in city code saying our enforcement procedures. So, at that time, I sent letters to all abuing property owners just making them aware of the noxious weed complaint, treatment methods, and stuff like that. Then we go to I went to the state statute. It's a state ran program and then it's operated at county level. So, Butler County has a county weed supervisor that reports to the state and they deal with broadspectctrum spring of agriculture land. um stuff like that. When I spoke to them about enforcement within the cities, the county weed supervisor was adamant on he wasn't going to come out here and do anything. Um and that's just solely on liability, the liability of spraying chemicals. The state has recommend recommendations of chemicals to use for certain noxious weeds. The issue we ran into um with the control methods for this specific bindw weed was it can harm animals. It can harm other vegetation. Um and a background on that Kansas the Kansas oldest standing noxious weed is bineweed. It's been on the noxious weed list for over 100 years. Its roots grow 20 feet deep. You're not really going to get rid of it um anytime soon and in an easy process. Uh the county weed supervisor also told me, and this is state statute as well, that they're only required to spray one time per year. So

if we go out and do an abatement spray once in the spring and it grows back, that's all we're required to do. So we really didn't have a good process going through. And I think with the noxious weeds, you know, following the state statute, we run ourselves into a lot of liability with the chemical spraying. It's not just, you know, going and mowing somebody's grass. I think it opens us up to a lot. Um, so I looked up at other municipalities around our area. Witchaw's removed the KSA language completely from their code. They just uh list noxious weeds as fire hazard or that could harbor animals and they mow it over 12 in. Um, city of Kichi has noxious weed language. They just enforcement mode just like we do. And then city of Derby removed their KSA reference as well. So they just abatement mow. Um, so that would be our recommendation is to keep with, you know, what we're doing currently. If grasses, weeds are over eight inches, then we abatement mow them at that point. But like I said, with what we ran into last year, I think with the noxious weeds, we'd be best to stay out of spraying on residential areas.

This is just trying to bring our code up to how we're administering that program. Um, and it was the instance we had that Tanner was talking about really was there was other vegetation around, there were trees, there were animals. Um, so we just felt like that was an huge liability for the city to take on. We weren't sure of the ramifications of putting that that treatment down. Um, and then we worry about, you know, if there's children and they're playing out in the yard. Um, so it just became really gray area for us that opened us up to a lot of liability. Um, so we would rather administer that part of it just like we would grass um and not be responsible for going out and applying any chemicals to someone's personal property.

Mr. May I make a motion to approve orders number 2261 admitting chapter 8 article 2 of the city of Augusta code by removing section 8-207 noxious weeds. Second. Got a motion and a second. Any questions? I got one. Um on section B somewhere on there it was talking about some noxious weeds list. Are those all the noxious weeds that you're Yes. So that's what's referenced in our code currently is the list of noxious weeds and that comes from the state. No, those are the only ones you're covering then. Correct. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions?

All those in favor mayor have Erica call the role. Martin, yes. Licker, yes. Bailey, yes. Richardson, yes. Davis, yes. Wedi, yes. Mark. Yes. Motion carries. Thank you. Thanks, Tanner. Thank you, Tanner. Okay. Item three is a utility easement dedication at 2340 Greyhound Drive. Staff. Yes. We will turn it over to Sam Cooper, city planner.

Thank you, mayor and councel. Uh so what we have before us tonight um we have been working with um the school district regarding their plans and development at Ewalt Elementary. During that process we identified a uh sewer line uh that was running essentially from the edge of their uh western property line towards the building. Um there was a section uh you can see in the blue there uh that is an existing 20 foot by 20 foot uh utility easement. Um after discussion with um wastewater uh it was determined that it might be a good idea to get some uh easement protection over the rest of the line there uh to ensure that the city can protect uh infrastructure and prevent further development that would make protection of that infrastructure challenging. Um, a lot of this, uh, green area here, um, is going to be, uh, underneath the existing, um, parking lot. Um, and I think that's more or less. This

this is in front of EW Elementary, correct? Correct. On the western edge. Yeah, it's right between the school and the admin building. Okay. So, there's a line pretty much from the admin side of the street that goes underneath the road um to service the school. So, if I'm understanding correctly, Sam, the area in blue, we already have an easement. We're asking for that to be extended to cover the area in green, or is it Am I misunderstanding? Let me see the colors again. Make sure I say that correctly. The blue is what currently exists. Uh that was on uh the original plat. Um, the green section is currently unprotected by easement

and that's why we're requesting it. Correct. Okay.

Any questions, guys? Has there been any dialogue with the school board, school district that's been anything other than supportive of this? No, the school was pretty quick to say, "Yeah, you were okay with it." Great. Yeah. I mean, we've been working with their engineering and architectural firms that they've hired for the projects. And then for this easement, it requires a superintendent signature as well. So, great. Yeah. I make a motion to approve the utility easement dedication at 2340 Greyhound Drive as legal as legally described in exhibit A of the utility easement dedication instrument. Second.

We have a motion and a second. All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Item four, street lights and country hill subdivision. discussion staff.

Yes. Uh mayor and council, this item is a followup coming from a previous direction from the council to do some investigation into the street lighting uh issue that was raised by residents in the Country Hill subdivision primarily along Arnold Drive. So uh the first part of it is just going to let you know what did staff do to investigate and then uh we can open up discussion for different options of approaching the solution. Um so we don't have a particular recommendation. We have some thoughts on it but uh let us walk you through first what we found and then we can open up the discussion from there. So uh our staff went out and actually drove the subdivision. Um, initially, even in my own head, I I was thinking that it was a much more widespread scenario. I thought the whole subdivision had decorative lighting. Um, but actually it's only about an 800 ft stretch along Arnold Drive. And so, historically, it appears that maybe the subdivision was built in phases. Um, maybe that was just a showcase area or maybe they started down that path and then changed their minds. I'm not I'm not really sure what happened with that, but in the remainder of the Country Hill subdivision that's platted, you have an existing uh street lighting network that meets a city standard. It's a wood it's a wood pole um with overhead wiring. So, as soon as you get past that first 800 ft and then in all the other locations, it's already a city standard network. So, the only thing that we're talking about um is right there along Arnold Drive and I think the lights alternate sides and I believe there were five total fixtures. Uh these are from Google Earth. These aren't from in person. So, it's likely that they're in even worse condition because Google Earth is going to be a little bit outdated. But you can see

they're they're very faded. Some of them are tilted leaning. Some of them have broken pieces. uh several of them the wiring it looks like it's either cut or completely disconnected at the bottom and they've just been non-functioning for a long time. So uh that's that's what we're talking about is that 800 ft stretch. We pulled the uh the covenants for Country Hills as we had talked about before and shared with you. Uh we looked at similar uh similar covenants for um Nebler Edition and Nebler Edition had specific wording that was in their covenants that spoke to the street lighting and said that uh the members of the HOA are being charged part of their assessment fee in order to maintain the decorative lighting. So that's what we were looking for in the covenants from Country Hills to see if there was anything that explicit that spoke to it in that way. Uh because one of the things that we're discussing is is responsibility essentially. Who maintains that? And in all of the other years that they've been asking, we we have told them the same answer and how we've treated all of the other subdivisions is that the decorative lighting is that's a choice by the developers by the HOA initially and that's a responsibility for you to maintain. In one subdivision, it is very explicit in their covenants. In this one, there isn't any language that speaks to it at all. It doesn't mention street lights as far as we can find it. We did multiple searches, could not even find the reference term. Uh simply spoke to maintenance of the common areas. That that's all it said in the covenant. So you don't have uh easy explicit language to point to to clarify the responsibility the way that you did with uh nebler. Again, once you get past this 800 ft, it init it immediately switches to the standard street lighting, which is the wood poles, uh, with alternating depending on location, some overhead,

some underground wiring. Um, so we asked staff to do some analysis for us on different options. We don't feel like maintaining trying to maintain the existing poles makes a lot of sense for for several reasons. one, we don't we the city don't do any maintenance on decorative lights elsewhere. We don't replace them. We're not updating them. Um, also the cost is likely comparable if if not maybe more expensive depending on the fixtures you go with. If you were going to replace them, these are in bad enough condition that keeping them in place and trying to make them functional probably isn't the best choice anyway. Um, but if you were going to replace them and try to match that aesthetic, it's probably similar cost, if not more expensive, than going with the city standard lighting that exists elsewhere in the subdivision. Uh, so I do have updated numbers for you. So, we are working off of preliminary estimates. When I put the staff report together, we do have some better estimates tonight. Um the option two is match what's in the remainder of the subdivision with the wooden pole street lights. Um our staff has said that based on the standard spacing we have elsewhere, they would go back with four rather than matching the five decorative lights that are out there. And uh the updated costs that we have for that and the way that we're putting this together is utilizing the cost estimates that we have prepared for the new subdivisions. uh that are that are going in. Um we have an updated cost that the staff report says 15,000. Uh this says 7300 is the estimate. Um that's for the uh the wooden lighting wooden poles with the above ground wiring. Uh the option

three is we're not recommending primarily for cost but also um because we we we have different standards for different locations. So option three goes back with a metal pole that is a a a kind of blackish color that matches what's along Ohio Street. But the only places where we've been installing that is the main arterial street along Ohio. We haven't been doing that in neighborhoods. the neighborhoods have the wooden poles. Um, so if you wanted to upgrade to that, then that cost rises considerably. We're not recommending that, but if you're asking what are city standards, we have two different kind of standard lights that that we're using, the wooden poles primarily in the residential areas and then on the main commercial stretches, the the metal pole lighting. And that's similar to what they have in their uh in the entryway. there is a black metal pole that is in their entryway. We're not recommending that that go into the subdivision. We're recommending the wooden poles. So th those are the three options uh for the replacement. But then the question becomes and this is where uh we have to weigh in and council has to weigh in um who is responsible for the replacement. Again, everything that we've told the HOA for the past nine or 10 years, however long that's been non-functioning is upholding what we've done with the other subdivisions. Your decorative lights are your responsibility. So, you can look at this and say it's essentially a new install. It's a small install of only four lights, but you can say it's a new install. And if you're doing a new subdivision that has four lights installed in it, then then that is paid for by the subdivision. That's paid for by the developer or by special assessments. Um you could say that the

city will assist with that. We'll participate at some level. Uh you could say that we're going to do it and then uh HOA, do you happen to have the money on hand to pay for it and then we'll call it good and maintain it from there forward? Um or you could say that it's entirely their responsibility. Uh there that that's kind of where we stand at this moment. Uh we have a cost estimate, but you have to decide responsibility um for consistency. Uh staff staff doesn't particularly like the idea of us just assuming those costs. What that means essentially is just all other if it comes out of the electric utility, all other rate payers are just picking up those costs to add them back in. Um we think it would make sense for for the benefiting properties to be participating in that. Um if they could participate in all of it, that would be fantastic. The the second level option would be some kind of cost partnership with them. Again, staff is coming at it how we would with all of the other subdivisions and for consistency and and saying that we think that cost should be borne by them in some way. You can leave it up to the HOA decide if they think that means the HOA or all of the properties can pick it up or if only the 10 adjoining homes that are impacted uh would want to participate in cost, maybe you leave that up to them. Um there's a lot of options on the table that that's just what we discussed. But what we're asking for some feedback or a thought from you all is just how do you feel about um either absorbing those costs, partnering with them or saying that here's your costs. We will replace it and maintain it going forward like the rest of the system. You all tell us how you're going to pay for it. Um there's those are some of the options that are on the table and you may not have to resolve it tonight, but we were

instructed to bring you back options of of how you could approach the issue. So with that, I'll open it up for any questions you might have. Josh, did you say that through a lot of those sections in the neighborhoods the uh the power lines were overhead? Mhm. Okay.

In fact, I'll take you to Arnold Street right here. The lighting stops right when you get to this tree line, which is kind of the edge of the common property. And then on the uh on the opposite side of the tree line, you immediately get into the wooden pole lighting that has uh some of the overhead connection elsewhere. It's underground. So I don't may it may have just been done for convenience alternating one way or the other. Um if if this was um run through an engineering, we would have designed to benefit they would have looked at a benefit district and said, "Well, these street lights benefit the first 10 homes 100%." But there's other people driving down the street that that benefits because they they need the lighting so they can reach their house. So, it would be a widespread area, I think, to split the costs.

Yeah, I agree. Just kind of off that, we're the president of our HOA and and from an HOA perspective, it's hard to say you have to pay, but you can't because then it gets real tricky when the pool breaks and I don't use the pool. So, no, I don't want to pay for the pool because I don't use it, but I had to pay for their street light. So I think probably they're going to want the majority of the neighborhood that pays those dues to chip in for that.

You also my understanding and this is maybe just specific to each subdivision and each HOA is just how they handle it differently. I mean I I have heard that that in terms of dues paying that um maybe this HOA is not mandatory that it it may be uh that just if you choose to participate then you get access to those things. In that case that's a very different scenario than other HOAs where they're all paying their fees and and it's kind of mandatory for being in it. And if it's that sort of situation, then maybe they don't have a a good reserve of any kind. I don't know, but that's a possibility. Yeah.

And Josh, to your point, um I a member of that HOA, but it is Arnold is weird because it was built before Country Hills was built out. And so a portion of if you are on Arnold or on I think there's one culde-sac off of there, it's optional to be part of the HOA. I think the majority of the homes where those lights are is part of the HOA and a couple of them are public spaces, but it's potential that some of those property owners may not actually even be part of the HOA with a light in their front yard. Uhhuh. Yeah. So then it's interesting of if they could even hold them accountable.

So this is if you go about 400 ft past where the decorative lights stop, you can see the city standard lighting that exists. And then if you back up to the other side of the tree line, that's where you'll see the decorative light post. Oh, right there. Well, Josh, can we go ahead and can we u

present that to them? Present that to them as far as what the cost is and things. Let them decide how they're going to do their HOA, how they're going to run it themselves. Well, and that was that was the question is I I'm fine presenting it, but I wanted to know if if we the city had a position when we go back to them in terms of how those costs would be shared. So, we feel good about the costs. Are we going back to them saying that we're partnering with you? Are we going back to them saying the city's absorbing? Are we going back to them saying these are your costs? We're willing to install it and then take them uh take responsibility from there forward like the rest of the system. So that that's what's good for me to know when we approach them. So we're very clear in in what our position is.

But can we not make a decision based on what they give us the information we the feedback we get from them? Make a decision then. Yeah. It doesn't it doesn't have to be specific to um are you saying just here's all the options. What are you guys thinking or are you saying that? Right. Right. then we make a decision based off of that because because if they if they're going to they're going to take it among their HOA people and stuff and they're going to divide it up or something.

But but is the question of the logistics of how they split it or is it are are we asking them whether they think this city should participate and cover the cost? Are you recommending we go back and say we're saying these are your costs. You tell us how you might want to split them up or are we going back saying all of these options are the table. How would you like us to cover it? Which which direction I guess are we? Well, I guess if you give them the option, they're going to take the the cheapest way out of it. That would be my assumption. They're going to say, "City, please cover it."

And we wouldn't install We wouldn't be able to install them either until the city, you know, got the revenue for it. So, how they split it up and what they how they get their cash, we're not a party to that. we would be waiting for them to be able to pay for it before we went to install. And then that's probably and I think that's fair

is that there's going to be inflation in the cost the longer that they wait and those estimates are going to need to be updated again. But I think they made their position clear at the previous meeting that they were looking for the city to install the lights or maintain these ones or replace them. Their position was it was a city function. How much of the this and you probably said this how much of that amount is the lights compared to the or is that strictly the lights that's not even installation? That is all that is the materials the use of our equipment and our labor the 7000.

So we have updated numbers. So again those are preliminary estimate. The updated number for total project installed is 7300. off of this estimate, it's roughly 1,400 of that is equipment and labor for the install. The remainder is the uh the poles, the conduit, or not the conduit, but the cable,

um all of that. So, so a little under 1,400 for our labor and equipment. The rest of it is purchasing the materials to do the install. So Josh, a point of clarity when Kip is asking that or you're asking that we take this back, we're taking this back to whom exactly?

HOA. So to the HOA that so is it is it the HOA and then if yes the HOA that we've just identified does not have 100% participation from its residents or or well well right or even oversight or legal jurisdiction to enforce over that's that's that I think you can take an option back to them, but I I don't know that they sit in a decision-making position for all that may participate in that.

It what it I think what it does So, as I'm understanding it, and I don't know this for sure, but I assume the two folks that came are representative members of the HOA. I don't know if that's the case or not. So, maybe maybe that would be a matter of of verification. is like, "Are you speaking on behalf of the HOA or are you simply residents that live up here?" So, we need some The man was the woman Kim was, "We're speaking on our own behalf." Okay. Um, so what it what it could do, again, as in the Nebler edition example, the relationship between the city and the HOA is spelled out in your covenants. In this case, you're lacking that explicit

language, but still the entity

that you we would be speaking with is the HOA. In a lot of other circumstances, um there is HOA property that is along this stretch. It's not all private homes. So, the HOA property is right here. And I believe there's one light that services or is adjacent. And actually there may be two lights, one here and one there that are adjacent to that property. So they're at least a stakeholder if you're looking at it as individual uh responsibility. Um it could be something that we notify all 10 of those. I I think maybe you do both. Maybe we send something that's specifically to the HOA and then also send the notifications just to those 10 homes and say this is what has been requested of us. Here's our numbers. Um we'd encourage you all to talk about it

and and let us know your thoughts on how how you might want to proceed with this. This is what was asked of us. Um, we're saying that if this is what we're saying, we still believe this is your cost, but here is what the cost would be to upgrade it. Um, you all can talk either as an HOA or adjoining property owners and let us know how that might be handled and then we can all move on from this exercise we've been stuck in for nine or 10 years. Yeah, that that's one approach

and and that and that seems to me at least a viable alternative compared to like notifying every single individual property in the HOA because the rest of the properties already are serviced by city infrastructure by a standardized lighting. these 10 homes and HOA common area are not. So, we're notifying the HOA at least for the common area. We're notifying those other homes because they are the specific beneficiaries and then maybe encourage them to have a discussion on how that might get handled. Thoughts? There is to muddy the waters even more. There is a method for establishing like a special assessment that benefit district again um to just those 10 property owners where the city took the lead on establishing that $7,000 as a special assessment on their property taxes. Um but they would have those property owners would have an opportunity to protest that. Um, so that's not like a guarantee that that improvement would be done. But if the city ever wanted to make any sort of infrastructure improvement, which this could be classified as that. Um, we could initiate those special assessments and apply it to those properties as well rather than them using the HOA, but like I said, they'll be able to protest it and um if it could fail if those property owners didn't agree to the improvement. Oh, I think we ought to contact the HOA. Go back to him, the guy that came here. Tell him what we got. Let them let them feed. He can talk to the people that are in their HOA and their that are along there and let them come back and feed us back with information. If we if we if the waters are muddied and things like

that, then we can take another approach. But this way, it puts it back in their hands, lets them come back and tell us what they've got, what they want to do. They may want gas lights put in. You never know. Gas lights. Any other thoughts, council? No, I'm with Kimp on that. I think we just kind of have to roll it up to them and hand it back to the HOA and say, "This is what the cost would be if we're going to do this, you know, and then get feedback from them." You might be right. they might not have any money set aside and then it's a different conversation though,

right? That that's the way I feel. I'm with Kip. Uh um the fact that it's a you choose whether or not you join HOA makes no difference to me. I don't, you know, other people use that. We'll end up getting charged if we pay for it and they don't ever go down that road, you know. So, I'd rather see the HOA pay for it. You know, the danger in us paying for it and not asking them to pay for it is every other subdivision will go, "Hey, you guys did that."

Every HOA what that HOA is all about.

I mean, and we do run into it. not street lights, but you think of these monument signs that are in front of these subdivisions. Um, and it's great when the HOA is established and the neighborhood is brand new and then 30 years later the sign is crumbling. The HOA has been dissolved because HOAs, they can just vote to dissolve themselves. Um, and then there's no one maintaining those signs. So, who does that fall to? it really falls to the property owner then who has that sign on their property. Um, but when they bought that property, there was an HOA to maintain that. So, we run into it with other other types of infrastructure. Um, it's not just the street lights. And you really are setting a precedence for how we will handle different cases like this in the future.

That particular right light right there, I know that property owner had to replace that himself. pay for that cost. So I I do think Josh that if we take it back to the HOA with that number, I do think a helpful part of that information would be if specials were implemented to pay for that, what that schedule would look like. so they could have an idea of what that could look like over time. Okay.

Would you want to put a time limit on the special like five years or I think that's um I think the answer is yes. I don't know what that number is. I don't know what ordinances or regulations permit from specials on allowing cost to be spread out over how long? Specials can be spread for 20 years. 20 years seems unreasonable for something. I mean, yes, but legal the legal answer is 20 years. Four years.

It's not all that unheard of though. You'll see tax records where specials are $7.50 50 cents on a lot of properties in Butler County where they're spreading it out just to be affordable.

If we were to go that route, there will be legal fees involved. Um so this cost will increase with the administrative and legal fees. Yeah. interest and I guess we tell the HOA that I mean they'll just have to understand that if they want to go with specials they're going to have to pay for those fees but that way you're going back with all the options they get to make an informed decision. Absolutely. Oh man. Do you feel like you have a direction that away discussion or do you want

So what I'm understanding is is we're going back to the HOA saying these are the the cost estimates that we have prepared. Um our ultimate goal the outcome is to standardize all of that. This standardizes it for your area. Um have your discussion and let us know uh how how you would how you're going to pay for it. how you would pay for it, how would you how you would participate and then we can pick up the discussion from there. Yep. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Moving on. Number five, supplemental agreement number three to agreement number 808-23,

the Red Bed Trail Bridge over US 54. Staff.

Yes. Mayor and council, I I I've been chuckling a little bit at these supplemental agreements as they've been coming through from the state. So, this is related to the bridge over the highway and as we all knew going into that project, it is our bridge and I I feel like we have now had three supplemental agreements that that speak to it being our bridge and uh and we understand that. uh fir first one was you know you have to you're you have to watch the embankments and watch for erosion and my position is understood it's our bridge and then this I don't even remember what the second one was but it was some element of the ongoing maintenance we're like yes understood it's our bridge this one is similar to that if you have snow removal or other operations that go on on the sidewalk you're responsible for that understood it's our bridge um so that that's how I'm looking at all these supplementals uh so far you can look at the specific language um in it but as I'm reading it it's just saying that you are responsible for individual aspects of the maintenance and operation and every other time we've looked at it that's what we've said understood it's our bridge um so that's that's how I see this one as well if you have any questions let me know uh but they are specifically speaking I think to uh to the embankments again just paying attention and making sure that those stay in good condition that you do inspections on them. We had already talked about that. We had already talked about the need of having our engineer uh look at it on a regular basis and uh we we have talked about uh the maintenance and upkeep on it if we had to do snow removal, other things like that. So, uh, again, Kot, I don't know how many more of these they're going to send our way, but all three of them that I've seen so far have been in this vein of, yes, we're responsible for the bridge. So, let me know if you have any questions.

Like a motion to approve supplemental agreement number three, agreement number 01823. Second. Got a motion and a second. Any other questions? All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? I. Motion carries. Item number six, high-risk urban roads grant agreement. Staff.

Yes. Mayor and council, our street superintendent was not available, so I'll go ahead and take this item for him. Um, this is a grant opportunity. I think it's a newer program or at least it's newer to us. Um we have responsibility for the uh the signage that exists along our roadways and and along our intersections and there's a bunch of federal regulations that apply to it and uh that speak to the uh the retroreflectivity the the size the scale all of these different things that go along with signage. Um, in this case, this program has been created for specific intersections that are viewed as higher risk. And, uh, we put together kind of a preliminary application just just to test it out. And, uh, our application essentially was improved for three intersections that we were looking at. Belmont and Kuster, Williams and Kuster, and 12th in Dearbornne. And I believe that the graphics are shown on the subsequent pages what the grant would be assisting with. So it's it's new signage that essentially um updates those intersections. Um we would be responsible for these costs if we weren't getting a grant. In this case, we were able to secure funding through a grant program to tackle three intersections that we feel like need to be updated. And uh the equivalent if we were to pay for this on our own is about $7 or $8,000. So the grant is covering about $7 or $8,000 of cost for the poles, the signs themselves. Um so just eliminate some of our costs if we were making these updates on our own and then uh we can evaluate the program and if it makes sense, maybe there's other intersections in town that are worthwhile exploring. Uh but anyway, we were we were trying it out. we were successful in the application. And so if you're supportive, um this would allow

us to move forward in executing the uh the agreement and uh getting those intersections updated, having that cost paid for. Uh we still have our installation cost, which is basically our labor, and we're responsible for installing that, but the grant is covering the materials, the signage, the poles. So, with that, I'll turn it over to you for consideration. Any ideas, council, questions? Do you have any estimates what that labor our cost would be close to? Any any idea?

I mean, it's not new cost because you're already paying your people, if that makes sense. You're already paying them hourly. They're just saying that during these hours they're going to be doing this project compared to something else. All right. Uh I move for the approval of the HRUR grant agreement with the Kansas Department of Transportation and authorize Mayor Rawlings to execute all associated documents. Second. Got a motion and a second. All those in favor say I. I.

Any opposed? Motion carries. Okay, let's move down to matters from and for council. And the first one is uh staff's got a report on discussing naming rights for the Red Bud Trail Bridge.

Yes. U mayor and council, this is a conversation we had a long time ago, but we we didn't really put together um organize our our thoughts around it to actually launch a program. But what's happened is multiple asks have been made of us and uh some of them of of considerable consequence and so we probably need to be discussing this and and come to some sort of conclusion on it. Uh one of those I believe I shared with you in a city manager update email a while back. I believe there was a state senator that that had a recommendation that the bridge be named after uh I I don't remember who the individual was, but I believe it was someone that had an association both with KOT and maybe even with with Arty at one point, but I think the naming was specifically related to uh the work that they had done for KOT. And I believe that individual had passed away. the state senator had reached out to a variety of entities before it made it down to the city and and as those supplemental agreements say it's it's our bridge. We're responsible for the bridge. Um so the ask uh went through the state initially because a lot of bridges are named through the state program and there's a specific policy and process for how that's done. Uh when they found out it wasn't a state bridge, they talked to the county and then the county routed them to us. So, uh, I provided a response and my response was that I don't have an answer for them necessarily. It would need to be discussed with our council because ultimately it belongs to the city and they would need to decide how they want to do the naming or no naming. Um, so that was the first ask and that that came uh a couple months ago I think. The second opportunity that's come up, as you know, we have a partnership with Arty, that is the nonprofit group that uh we have a memorandum of understanding with to try to get the remainder of the trail built out in between the bridges.

And uh they've been doing a a fundraising effort to get their funding to uh to finish up that buildout. And uh there is an anonymous donor that reached out to them and made an offer to them, but it was related to the naming rights on the bridge. And it was basically that I I will I will provide $100,000 towards your buildout, but I want to be able to name the bridge. Um obviously, it's not Arty's bridge, it's the city's bridge. And ultimately that's kind of in the vein of what we were looking at of trying to secure funding to help get the rest of the trail built out by doing something like that. It's just we didn't run any kind of process for it. It's just an opportunity that popped up because someone reached out to RD and said I'm willing to do that. So, um I'm presenting it to you because we need to figure out how to have the conversation and make a decision so that we can provide answers to those folks. Um if we want to have some sort of process where people have opportunities to make pitches like that. Uh I think examples would be like uh on a big scale the entrust bank arena, smaller scale maybe like the capfed amphitheater in Andover. I think that they had processes um that that said, "Hey, we're we're open to naming rights. Here's how that would work." And then entities had opportunities to participate. Um that could be an avenue. Or if you think that that that avenue may not pan out as well as as an offer that's on the table, we could potentially start working with RD and that donor and see what their terms would be and if and if we like that, just move forward in that way. Um but but we have to figure out how to have the conversation and come to a conclusion. So I I at least wanted to point out uh some of the ask or

suggestions that are on the table. Uh one of them has uh funding attached to it that could help build out the rest of the trail. Uh the other is more of like an inmemoriam thing. Um, I just I want to open up the conversation, see how you feel about that, and let's figure out how we can get to the point of making some decisions on how and if we're going to do naming on the bridges. Josh, have we talked already on the possibility of opening this up for other funding opportunities?

I did initially um before they started their current fundraising, we had brainstormed the idea of of naming rights process on the bridge as a method of fundraising. So, we had talked about it initially, just didn't get anything actually in place and agreed upon. And just through the normal course of their fundraising efforts, someone reached out and said, "I'm willing to do this." And and that that number was substantial enough that they're like, "Hey, Josh, what do you think about it? We need to talk about that." So, I'm bringing it to you kind of on a cold call ask or a cold call donation that says, "Hey, um, if I can name it, I'll give you this." Um I don't know all the terms u but that's that's an option that's on the table. So yes it was discussed but nothing formalized.

I think we ought to develop a a process similar to what Andover used maybe for their amphitheater. Agreed. And uh we definitely would want to know what they want to put on that bridge. We wouldn't want something vulgar, you know. Yeah.

Like I see it's either set up a a special meeting for that or work session or something or part of our strategic retreat to have something like that put in there so that we can decide what we wanted to put in it and uh then that they fall within that then fine. If they don't then I'm kind of with the mayor. I don't I don't like leaving it open. Too many things can be put on there.

Well, I think we should have we could do it and just have the right of refusal on the name any

Yeah, you you can structure it however you want to. Um there's a variety of different ways that that I've seen. Uh sometimes naming rights and you can look at it uh how however you want, but sometimes naming rights are permanent. Sometimes there's time limits attached to them. So that's why you see arenas get renamed. So like interest bank arena probably has a contract that says it will be named Interest Bank Arena for the next 15 or 20 years for this established fee. Uh, and sometimes that fee is an all upfront sort of thing. Sometimes it's 500,000, but you're paying 50,000 a year for the naming rights. So, there's lots of different models for how that can happen. And so, I'll try to find examples of it. Um, I'll try to I don't know how Andover did theirs. Um, I'll have to I'll have to get some details, but um, I believe that that's governed by a contract that they have with with CAPFed, but I'll I'll have to get a little bit more info for you. Sounds good.

I would agree. So the the initial response because we want to we want to provide some sort of answer back to that donor is that um we we are interested. We'll we'll consider it but we are going to have a process by which it's done and we would encourage you to to submit through the process. Yeah. Does that sound like the direction that you want to go? Sounds good to me. Okay. With that, Mr. Martin, do you have anything tonight? I have two items. Okay, Mr. Mayor.

Interestingly enough about this alley discussion we had earlier. There's an alley between Helen and Lick Lighter from Summit to Harrington about not quite in the middle of it, but pretty darn close to the middle of it. Um, it runs north and south. It's from Summit to Huntington. Somebody had some sewer work done, maybe had a new line put in or something. And they left a huge mound in the middle of the alleyway. And I was asked if we as a city could that people travel it, I guess, going to a hair salon and uh garages back on the back alley entrance. Anyway, I uh told them I would bring it to the staff and see what they could come up with. It's between Summit and Harrington, and it's Helen or the North and South.

It's about the 1200 block, I think.

I didn't get that part written down, but you can see it distinctly. It's a the plumbers didn't put the dirt back down in the hole or it's it's uh an irritant to the neighbors there. Secondly, um I had some concerned citizens call me in the 1000 block of Lulu Money where the curve is where Lulu turns into money, money turns into Lulu. There's a swerve in there and I guess there's been quite a bit of fast traffic and some of the residents are having trouble even getting out on the street because they worry about the traffic coming through there so fast and um I just that's all I have m Thank you.

Nothing tonight. Nothing. Um, I have something I want to ask. During the play park build, we had some people donate money. And what brought it up was Josh was talking about the interest bank thing. We had some people donate money, but it was going to be doled out so much a year for the next three or five years. Just check on that and see how that's coming.

They emailed me about it and I I failed to follow up. We did actually. It's going to the community foundation. So, it hasn't hit our coffers here yet, but I have confirmed that they are making their annual payments to the to there. And so, as long as those payments are coming through, we want to keep that account open. The intention had been to close it, but since those annual payments are going to them, still remain open. Thank you, Kip.

I just wanted to, I guess, say thanks to our city employees. Um, you know, like our department of safety and things. We've had many or several house fires and things lately. Had several things that the department of safety, the officers and things have been working on and things. Um I know you've been doing a lot of work down there with the concrete and stuff getting the thing for the colarium ready and things. So, thank you for that. And and uh the street department things. Everybody's been working really hard and stuff. I just want them to know we appreciate them a lot and stuff and all that they do and stuff. So, just um just thank you. to the city our city employees.

I just and it could go Josh or Cammy doesn't make a difference. So was my understanding when the Kate thing was it Friday? One of one of the big things they were talking about was wayf finding signs. So the the one that was privately purchased that says city hall on it is that one that we're going to before we bring it to council. That one right there, that's the one. Um, are we gonna actually install that shortly to kind of see how it looks? And um, look at visibility of it and so on and so forth. She said it on her desk.

Yeah, I he did sit it on my desk. Um, I've had the street department in a few times to look at it. They came in again today and verified that the brackets would be able to work on the type of poles that we have. So, they were going to swing by either tomorrow or sometime this week to get it and get it installed. But I did want to bring it this evening just in case um someone wanted it displayed so you can see it before it goes up up. Thank you. That's all I got. Nothing. Mr. Mayor, nothing. Sir, you want to dismiss us? Make a motion to adjurnn. Second.

Got a motion and a second to adjurnn. All those in favor say I. I. I. Thank you.