Water Utilities Community Facilities District - Regular Meeting

The Apache Junction Water District special meeting of 05/06/2025 to order and request that all cell phones be maintained on silent. Roll call.

Chairperson Wilson?

Here.

Vice Chairperson Schroeder.

Here.

Board member Cross.

Here.

Board member Heck.

Here.

Board member Johnson.

Here.

Board member Nesser. Present. Board member Saller. Here. You have a quorum, your honor.

Thank you. Excuse me. Approval of minutes for the 04/15/2025. Do I have a motion for approval of minutes?

Mr. Chair. Yes. I move that the meeting minutes of 04/15/2025 be approved. Second.

Moved and seconded. Roll call.

Board Member Cross.

Yes.

Board Member Heck.

Yes.

Board Member Johnson. Yes. Vice Chairperson Schroeder. Yes. Board Member Nesser.

Yes.

Board member Saller?

Yes.

Chairperson Wilson?

Yes.

Motion passed.

Discussion on proposed district budget for fiscal year twenty twenty five-twenty twenty six to include proposed rates, fees, changes applicable during the fiscal year twenty twenty five-twenty six, and classification and compensation plan for district employees. Mike.

Good evening, Chairman Wilson, a member of the board. Just we're going to go over proposed 2026 budget, proposed rates and fees and charges that will be changing or proposed to change next year, our classification and compensation plan, and then our budget schedule review of what will be tentative budget and final budget. Giving you guys some history here on our budget, where we were in 2023, 2024, total budget during that year here, roughly between our sources and uses, was $8,400,000 that we spent after our audit. We budgeted in 'twenty four, 'twenty five, which is our current year, roughly $13,800,000 And currently, we're projected to spend $9,000,000 of that. We're proposing a budget next year.

We're already carrying over a few projects that we did not get finished this year that I'll explain to you guys here in a little bit. But we're proposing a $15,700,000 budget. Some of those fees will be coming from our water resource acquisition fee and then also our system connection fee as part of that, because we are expanding some of our plant sites that development has paid for to take care of their source of supplies. So we'll go into little more detail here in a little bit. Currently, our Fund 62, which is our Water Resource Acquisition or no, sorry, System Connection Fee Fund, we have roughly $5,400,000 excuse me.

And then also on our Water Resource Acquisition Fee, and this is to purchase additional water supplies in the future, we have roughly $11,000,000 in that bank account. We continue to grow so that when we have that birdie system that we need to pay for, those extra water supplies that we need to go out and purchase, we keep that fund going, and then we'll eventually purchase some of those. Currently, as you can see here, we're only spending $334,000 of that money, and that's the final payment of the non- Indian agricultural water that we've been paying for the last five years. Some of the major items that we're looking at for next year's proposed budget is purchase two new vehicles to constantly rotate out our existing ones for service trucks. The same things with midsize truck.

One is actually smaller than a midsize truck, but purchasing two of those. And then also a tracko and trailer to do some of the new mains. We're getting in larger mains. Instead of the 812s, we're going sixteen, twenty four, and even 30 inches mains. So we need bigger equipment as we've been developing our system with our new development to the south. So we're looking at purchasing additional equipment here. Any questions on our equipment?

Yes.

Do you routinely do your own trenching, or do we often hire that out?

So if it's in a subdivision, we would hire that out. But these are routinely form repairs that we have to do out there for service lines or if a main break happens, that we'd have to do that. We also have small projects that the district will do themselves to put main lines in. As we train our employees, we're trying to get them more fit on how to inspect some of the mains out there and actually install them themselves so that we kind of practice that. So that's why we have the equipment to do all that.

Yeah, because I do know a track hoe can rip through our caliche so much DAY: more efficiently than the standard backhoe.

A night

and day difference.

We learned that one here at City Hall about three years ago. We had a backhoe ours up here. We couldn't get through it, So we ended up leasing a trackhoe for a week. And we went through it in a week rather than the three weeks we spent with the backhoe that we couldn't get through it. So we're getting bigger equipment for some of the conditions that are out there also.

Okay. Thank you.

Any other questions? Yes.

Mike, can you go back to the budget? Sure. So just a question for maybe to help me understand. On the uses of the operating that's the operating expense, right? And the uses? Correct. So it's the 2020 this year's budget was $5,900,000 The NEXUS has projected up $2,900,000 of projected. Sorry,

we're going one year.

Yeah, right there. Right here. So that's a lot less. Then we push the number for next year up to that number. Is there a reason why that would have been so low? I would have to

look at that. Those are the projected numbers. We had $5,900,000 in there. I'm not sure why our projection is so low there for the year. We need to take a look at that, to be honest with you.

Okay. That just seems way

Got you. Yeah. It looks out of place here, like you're saying. Let me take a look, and I will report back to on our next meeting. Especially, Mike, since the year before, you're at 4.6. It sums up.

Right. Exactly. Exactly. That's why it seems like it is too it's an outlier. It looks like an outlier or you guys were incredibly efficient.

Or you had a lot of people quit. Yeah. Because That didn't happen. That

did not happen. So yeah, research, and I'll get back to you on that number for sure.

Yeah. Good to find.

Thanks. Any other questions on this?

Anyone else? Seeing none.

Some capital projects for next year. We started this year on our design of our new office we're working with Public Works on, on their campus, a Public Works yard currently. We put money in the budget next year of $2,750,000 either to purchase additional lands, to start construction, to get through our design phase. We're doing a master plan for the Public Works yard currently, splitting the cost with them as part of this project. So there'll be all kinds of ancillary items as part of that, a building for our customer service here.

Some of our maintenance workers were currently in a warehouse that they made an office in, so we're actually making some facilities for our field staff as part of this, but we'll be working with the Public Works Department and the city to build more of a campus down there with the police department and a few other divisions that you guys will be hearing about through the city budget also. They also have money planned in their budget as part of this. We're also looking at installing a 12 inches waterline under US60 at Goldfield. Goldview Subdivision went in probably about two or three years ago. We're all looking at another development there, a multifamily home just south of Goldview Subdivision, possibly a gas station.

But currently, we do not have a link under the US60, so this would be a tie that we'd be tying those together. And we're using system connection fees to pay for that link so that we can help with water quality and loop it through that system there. Also, right here, under Highway 60 at Idaho, we currently have a 12 inches transmission line that we move water from our plant up to our Booster one on 16th Avenue. We're looking at replacing that and adding a distribution line under that also, again, helping our system circulation as we get new development to the north. These new subdivisions keep coming in.

And we have to the south, we need to be able to move that water around. So again, using our system connection fees to upsize those pipes or actually tie those pipes together so we can move water north and south of the freeway. Currently, we only have two connections across the freeway, one at Tomahawk and one at Cortez. And we did have a Cortez main break about fifteen years ago, so we were down to one connection crossing US60. So we want to make sure that we can get our supplies, be able to move water in different directions there.

Real quick question on that. Are you going to have to shut down the Goldfield in Idaho when you do that?

We'll shut down probably one lane. We'll have a contractor. The plan is right now, ADOT will allow us not to bore, is to open trench set underneath the bridge there on those locations. Sometimes they'll allow you to do that. Other times, they'll make us bore that entire length of their right of way. And boring prices are not cheap, so that's why these are expensive projects. But all that's concrete underneath those bridges, so hopefully we can open cut that. We'll still have to put casing on, so if we do have a main break, the water actually comes out outside the freeway, not under the bridges, so there's nothing going on and cause an issue with the freeway. A few more projects. Purchased 2,000,000 gallon treatment train, five, at Supercision Area Water Plant.

So currently, we built our first two MGD plant originally back in 2014. The developer paid to increase that to 4,000,000 gallons a day. And now we're moving forward, going from four to 10,000,000 gallons a day here in the next thirty months. A developer will be paying for four MGD of that six, so we'll be paying for our two MGD treatment train. So we have that for our supplies as these new developments are coming in to the north.

This is not for supercision, but this is for some of the other small infill projects we have as we build that up. We have a major commercial development come in or retail come in. We have those water supplies available for them as they come in as part of that. We're also looking at upgrading our booster pump station at Water Campus 2 and redoing the existing one there, again, using some of our system connection fees that development has paid for and replacing some of those booster pumps as they've reached the end of their useful life. We do in this year's budget, we had to drill a new superstition vist as well.

We are still working on that process, so we push those funds into next year. So you see that there in this one. And then about a month ago, you guys approved to the water purification trailer. We're obviously not going to get it all built here in this fiscal year, so we pushed some of those funds out until next fiscal year. But we'll be coming back to get approval in next fiscal year from you guys on those. Any questions on some of our major projects we have going on?

MGD stands for?

Million gallons a day. Sorry.

Thank you. Many. Lot of people might not know that. Many. Might be listening. That's many.

2,000,000 gallons a day. So that's roughly about 4,000 service connections, residential service connections.

Anyone else? Okay. Thank you.

Okay. Some of the expenditures, this is part of that part Councilmember Heck was asking me on some of the costs that we have going on. If we have 180,000 to our Salt River project for the Verde sedimentation project we've been working on. This is part of the study. We've spent $400,000 over the last four years with them.

We're making our last payment on the fourth year on that one. Due to those increases we talked about a couple months ago, there's roughly another $8,000,000 We owe $180,000,000 for the next two years, so we'll have two more payments. So this will be five of six totaling of those payments that we'll be making. As I mentioned earlier, we do have our last payment of 334,000 for our non Indian agricultural water that we financed with CAP five years ago, so that will be the final payment of that one. This is the maintenance fee for operations and maintenance of the CAP.

It's roughly $1,400,000 for our roughly 3,000 acre feet of CAP water we have today, so we have to pay these fees as we get that delivered. And then our capital fee is also $390,000 per year for our capital fee. So kind of give you a little history here on CAP fees. They used to be cheap roughly about ten to fifteen years ago. And as it's become a precious resource and the drought has continued, as you can see, these fees have almost doubled in the last ten years, going from our operations maintenance fee from roughly $150 to over $300 an acre foot as we get that delivered to us.

The capital fee also went from roughly $20 an acre foot, and now we're looking at almost $60 per acre foot for those capital fees. And it's just those resources are getting more finite and there's not as much water as being delivered. So less water in the canal being delivered here means higher prices to pay for all those pumps and maintenance on that canal to handle all that. So that's what kind of keeps raising those rates as we move forward. Any questions on those?

Yes, Mr. Chair. I have a question back regarding one of the projects, the Brody River sedimentation project. So the study is going to take six years. Yes. MICHAEL So when you get to the end of six years, that's when we 'll find out what the cost will be to actually remove all that sedimentation?

GREGORY So this is well, they're still going through the process with the federal government to determine if it's that project or if it's raising the dam. We're assuming it's going to be raising the dam at this point Oh, and then doing some that's

this or was it the Horseshoe Reservoir? What was

the So it's part of the Horseshoe Reservoir. It's part of the Verde system. So you have a Horseshoe Reservoir that's part of it. And then you have Bartlett Dam, which is the next dam downstream So from that's where the sedimentation is in Horseshoe. They looked at removing all that sedimentation, what the costs were for that and what they would do with all the fill. How much would it be and where would they move it to and what those costs would be? Or would it be cheaper to raise the Bartlett Dam and leave those there and leave Horseshoe as a sedimentation place where it could settle out and it wouldn't fill in Bartlett? And then come up with a process. If it does fill up Horseshoe, how can they flush it through Bartlett at the same time? So they're looking at several scenarios.

You know, we have to do this with the federal government of no action at all, or, you know, here's three different options that we have. Consensus right now is looking at raising Bartlett, but it's still the federal government's recommendation in the end what we do. So we're looking this is actually a study that we're working on is the raising of Bartlett Dam as part of that, to get through that process to see what the total cost of that dam would be as part of the process.

So that would be six years. We'll determine that. And then the actual work, presuming it gets approved, will be probably

Correct.

Five, ten years?

We're looking at, right now, what they're estimating is 2034 the dam would possibly be complete. So nine years out.

Okay.

A long process going through the government process. Like, as you're aware, we've been in it almost over four years now. Another two just in designing, and construction will take another seven years after that.

Thanks. Okay,

you. Okay, moving on to our rates. So we currently have a base rate. This base rate pays for chemicals, electric, and water. So roughly I'm sorry, I'll take that back. The base rate is based on your maintenance of your facilities, of all your pipes underground and taking care of all that. So this base rate never goes away. We're always going to have this, so we need to keep that steady. We're currently at $31.53 As you can see, as we compare to other cities across the board here, we're, on average, slightly above average. We're looking at increasing this rate.

We're proposing to increase it to $33.11 currently. Gilbert has some higher rates. Arizona Water Company is right in Brewera. Mesa is pretty close to us. Buckeye's about the same water rates, and then some other ones have a little bit lower. Florence is near us also. So we're proposing a 5% base rate increase to people living inside the city limits, no change to their consumption rate, and then no change to the tiers. What I'm talking about on tiers is zero to four thousand is our lowest tier. It's $3 per thousand. The next tier is 5 per thousand.

The next tier is $6.5 per thousand, roughly. So we have these tiers that go up. So we're at 0 to $4,000 4,000 to $10 and then $10,000 and above. So we have these tier rates to promote water conservation. So the higher water use you have, the more money you pay for that water so that you will use less water.

So we're trying to reduce those as part of our fees. For a customer in the County Island, we're recommending a base rate increase of 5% and a consumption rate of 5% and then no change to the tiers also on them. What does this look like overall? So if you're in the district currently, if you are an average customer using 7,500 gallons per month, currently, water bill is roughly $73.25 Proposed new rate, we're raising this base rate by $1.58 No change to our consumption if you use $7,500 so your water bill would be $75 so roughly an increase of $1.75 per month to your water bill or 2.3% overall increase to your water bill. Comparing it to somebody who lives in the county, currently their base rate is $32.48 proposing to raise it 5% to $34.1 which is $1.62 On the consumption rate, if you use 7,500 gallons, you would be bumped up by $2.39 so roughly an increase of $4.00 point dollars if you lived in a county island.

So roughly a 4.8% increase. So if you're comparing city versus county, same amount of water usage, roughly, if you lived in the city, you'd be paying $75 for your water bill. If you live in the county, you'd be paying $90.49 for your water bill for using 7,500 gallons. Do we have any questions on that?

Yes.

Why does the county people get punished?

Because they are receiving a service that has city services that help support us. So if you live in a county island, you get charged more for your water supplies in that county island. So eventually, as most cities do, they a lot of their support, even police, water, they come they stop by there, and they leave because that's not really in the city limits. So they're using public funding to fund things that live in the county. Here, we're going to be using the county's money or the people that live in the county to fund

themselves. Thank you.

Okay. Thank you.

Next one is our residential system connection fees for a single family currently. So if you're building a new home as these developments are to the south, your connection fee currently would be $7,760 We're looking at an increase of 1.8%, so it's a consumer price index. We're looking to raise it. The price to construction over the last five years just keeps continually growing and growing. You know, our our price for our plant back in the day was roughly I think we paid $14,000,000 for a plant.

When they expanded it to MGD, we spent $30,000,000. So price of that construction keeps going up and this is what the system connection pays for either building this plant, adding more production, adding another well, adding bigger pipes to go on freeways so that we can serve these new developments as they come in. So down south in Blossom Rock and Radiance, they get charged different fees because they are paying for their treatment train. Those are the two that we talked about earlier. They're building their own storage.

They're building their own booster pump stations. So they don't pay for the capital infrastructure. They're only paying for the buildings, the equipment that we purchase, the vehicles that we drive to support those services down south. So they have a much lower system connection fee based on this. And this was done from a study from Tischler and Beiss two years ago on where our system connection fees came from and where our water resource acquisition fees came from. Again, it's roughly a 1.8% increase. I just

have a question. What are how do our rates compare to other cities for a connection fee? Because, you know, that fee is just to have a meter set, essentially. Still have to pay a contractor to come in, put a tapping sleeve on, or do you provide the tapping sleeve and the meter, and then a contractor connects from the meter to the house?

So it's two different scenarios. So we do have those fees that are part of our rate structure. This is the bulk of them. So you have a system connection fee and a water resource acquisition fee. It's roughly about 12,000 to $13,000 And then if they're adjacent to a main, you'll pay to install that. It's roughly another 1,500 or $2,000 to get that installed. So it's roughly around $14,000 currently to get a service installed if you're adjacent to the main.

And that's just two from the main to the meter?

That's correct.

$13,000

Yes, sir.

Wow. So last time, last year when we looked into this, I think we were on the higher end. We were either number two or three on what our impact fees for cities or water resources.

We're way on the high end.

I can get those numbers for you, and I think we looked at this last week. You asked the same question.

Yeah. I I would love to see what our competitive cities are charging for the same service. Okay. Because it's just man, I mean, we don't live in a rich community. We live in a moderately income and Again, none

of these fees affect our existing customers. This is all new development.

I understand. But, you know, there's a lot of people that would like to put a rental on their property and to tap in and bring another meter in for that rental. It makes it very cost prohibitive.

I agree. So let's get that the chart. You're you're

on Yes.

So the if you had a a a resident in Apache Junction, obviously, on well water or they were hauling water and they wanted then to get connect with Apache Junction Water, they would have to pay these. Yes, sir. Okay. So what does it say it doesn't affect the current customer DAY: base? Everybody's the water,

so they wouldn't need to have a connection when they

Correct. You already have a connection, so you're not going to have to pay. These are system connection fees. So if you're a new customer, if you have a vacant lot and you're acting as a developer, just like Brookfield or any other lot that's out there that's coming in that is not building infrastructure, you know, We're paying $2,000,000 for a 2,000,000 gallon a day treatment train. We're paying $2,000,000 for a well. We're paying $800,000 for a line to go under US-sixty. Where do those costs come from? Our existing ratepayers are already getting water. These new customers need to pay for that. And this is the infrastructure behind that, this is how we pay for it. Rather than charging our existing customer and raising their rates, so they have to pay for additional infrastructure that they're already getting water from.

One last question. So if you're saying that it's here, it shows that it's a $7,900 connection fee. That's truly not the accurate answer, because you said it's $13,000 when you put in the tapping sleeve, the trench to the main, and the meter, and everything. So why aren't we just showing that it's a $13,000 approximate fee?

Because there are different buckets that these have to go in, and the money has to be spent accordingly. I can't spend this to maintain a main break. This specific money for system connection fees has to be to either upsize a main for new development, build additional capacity for booster pumps, building additional storage for new customers, building more treatment capacity. I can only use these funds for that. I cannot use it to maintain things. So that's why there's a different fee for this. We'll talk about water resource acquisition fees. There's a different fee for that. I can only use that to purchase additional water supplies. And then, finally, we have now our 61 account, which is our operation and maintenance account.

So would that would be the $2,000 roughly to go out there and install it, is that fee has to be paid for that. So we have different buckets that these have to go to and only be spent in specific ways. That's why I have it spread out this way. We can give you a price if you'd like it at our next meeting to show you what a total price would be for a new customer. You guys would love to

see that. You.

I don't

know if time is flying that fast, but it seems like every time I turn around, you guys are raising the rates. When was the last time that you went from one year to the next and not raised the rates?

Since I have been here, we have not. We've always taken an approach of a minimum rate increase. As you guys probably noticed I don't know if you've seen Gilbert's rate increases they did not do this. So in the last year, they raised their rates 100%. And guess how many people were in their meeting that day? Thousands. We did this twenty years ago, chairman. And we had the same we raised, I think, at that time, like 14% or 15%. We had people showing up in here all the time. So we took this conservative approach of roughly 2% a year, slowly making increases, so it's a less impact at one time of $1 or $2 here, just to slowly keep up with these things that are happening out there. So that was what our consultants recommended, and that's what we've been doing for the last fifteen years.

So you were just mentioning that the different rates for different things, that money has to go to particular things. Correct. Correct. Which rate does the money go towards I'm going to bring it up again building a trailer for a demo or even building a new facility? Where is that coming from? Which one of these rates do you get to pull from that to build the things you want to build?

JAMES Okay. So a couple of different things. So system connection fees. So that would be to build our office that comes out of here for infrastructure for existing customers as we grow. These new customers have to pay to keep up the level of service that we currently have. So that would be a portion that they would be for. The trailer is additional water supplies. So we could pull it out either water acquisition fees, because if we're looking at trying to get more water supplies in the future using advanced water purification, or system connection fees, because it's another place of production in the future. So we could pull it out of that bucket also. Could be for our existing customers, right?

For a drought contingency plan, if CAP cuts back 100% in five years, where are we going get water from? So we could probably pull from all buckets for advanced water purification. And what was the third one that you were asking on?

No, I just had the two scenarios. But I was just curious because I didn't realize that when you have all the different you have proposed rate increase of, what, the 3% or 2% here. Now it's 1.8 And then I think there was one right before that of the 1.8 I didn't realize that you had to that particular rate increase had to go towards a particular thing. So I was just curious of which one of these buckets pays for the luxuries, let's say, and the flashy lights. Was just curious. That's all. Okay.

New offices.

Oh, I don't doubt it. Okay.

Any other questions on that?

No one else?

So the next one we had is water resource acquisition fee. This one went from we're looking at an increase, again, 1.8%, so roughly going from $3,660 to $3,840 Again, some of these costs are out of our control. As Chairman Wilson said in the past, we purchased our 1,000 acre feet of CAP water back in 2012 for roughly $3,000,000 for 1,000 acre feet. Today, that would be $30,000,000 So price of water is still not going down. This is why we have to raise these prices to go out and purchase that next bucket.

I wish the price of water went down, but it doesn't these days. It's just continuing going up. And if we don't charge any of these fees, we're not going to have water, so development would stop here in Apache Junction. So we have to have a way to purchase that water. Any other questions on our rate or proposed currently?

Don't see any.

Proposed classification and compensation, we are recommending or proposing the same as the city, a one step increase for all employees. It's roughly 2.5%. And then there's an increase, a 4.5% increase on the average health insurance that will be shared between the district and the employees. That's not 4% of their salaries. That's 4% increase of their premiums for the insurance.

Any questions on any part of that so far? Last portion is to schedule our upcoming events here. Our tentative budget is scheduled for 05/20/2025, at six p. M. Here in the city council chambers at 300 East Superstition Boulevard, Fetch Junction, Arizona, 85119, and then a final budget on 06/17/2025 at 6PM at 300 East Superstition Boulevard, Apache Junction, Arizona, 85119.

Okay. District manager's report.

I have no report, your

honor. District director's report. Mike.

Chairman Wilson, just an update. We had board member Johnson at our event, the Water Festival. A quick recap for the rest of the board and Chairman Wilson that was there. We had four schools that showed up, all three schools here in Apache Junction and one from Superior. We had eight classes, roughly two hundred fourth grade students, and over 40 volunteers that came out to train the fourth grade students here in the community about water conservation, the watershed, the water cycle, and groundwater modeling. So great event. Had a great time out there. The fire district showed up. Cooled off the kids at the end of the day. But again, just teaching the kids here in Apache Junction and Superior about water conservation and how we can handle it here in Arizona.

So a great event. A lot of people, lot of volunteers. Really appreciate it. Council members and board members that were out there. So thank you.

Some updates on the Colorado River. This is Lake Powell, so our upper lake. As you can see here, we're back to where we were in 2024, roughly lost about 3%. So we have about 24,000,000 acre feet here in Lake Powell. During this time, we fill Lake Powell typically from our water our snow and melt comes off, and then we're draining into Lake Mead most of the time during the summer.

Hopefully this comes up, but it's been an average year, so it'll be slightly up. I'm going to imagine we're going to be still below this red and green line, which was 'twenty three and 'twenty four. Lake Mead we dumped from Lake Powell to Lake Mead in 2023 or 2024. We moved up slightly. We're still reducing our average there, roughly at 36% last year, and now we're at 33% roughly this year at 25,000,000 acre feet in that reservoir.

So still declining. The elevation is ten sixty here, roughly. And if you remember, I believe it's ten seventy is when we start getting into Tier one or ten sixty five, where it's a Tier one reduction. So we lost some of our NIA water the last couple of years, so we're in that Tier one reduction right now. If we get into higher tiers, the more reductions we receive and it's based on elevation of the reservoirs.

An update on the Salt River system. Currently, don't receive any water from them, but it's been, again, a dry year. As you can see, the total system here on the Salt River project is 68%. A year ago, we were at 93%. So not much rainfall and snow here in Arizona either. So not a great year. So hopefully we can get better rains, better monsoon here in August, and more snow next year to start replenishing some of reservoirs out there. Otherwise, again, price of water is going to continue to grow. My last slide for today is to kind of give you guys an update we're at on water production. I thought this was interesting here.

As you can see, this is the last ten years back before 2023. We're cruising along using basically almost the same amount of water each year, so don't have any really major projects to deal with increasing production, increasing storage, increasing booster pumps. And then all of a sudden in 2023, we have our big development to the south, Supercision Vistas. A couple of other smaller developments are happening. And all a sudden, our water demands are growing.

We go from 55,000,000 gallons per year up to about almost 65,000,000 gallons a year in 2023. And also in 2024, we're going from 60 up to almost 70. And now we're almost in 2025. And as you can see, we're making another jump. And as this continues, I would imagine this is going to be somewhere up here, about $80,000,000 in a year. So this is the need for all that infrastructure that we're putting in out there that we're trying to get ahead of now as these developments come in so we can manage that.

Mike? Yes. How much of that is actually from construction trucks wetting the ground down, etcetera, etcetera, as they put the development in?

MICHAEL So zero. This is all domestic water. Currently, we're providing raw CAP water, to that development to the south. So they're not using it for construction. There may be some small developments that use potable water, but most of our construction water down south, almost all of that is from raw CAP water, so it's not accounted for in this.

Thank you.

Any other questions tonight?

No one else see any.

All right. Thank you.

District treasurer's report.

And

since there's nothing else, I will adjourn this meeting. Thank you.