Library Board - Special Meeting

Thursday, 05/14/2026. And I will call to order the City of Apache Junction Library Board special meeting. Roll call, please.

Robin Barker?

Yes, here.

Judy Borey?

Here. Barbara Fitzgerald is absent. Katherine Meek? Here. Nola Perkins?

Here.

Vera Walters?

Here.

And Alexander Wyroba is also absent tonight. We have a quorum.

Okay, thank you. I'm going to combine the agenda and the minutes, unless I have an objection to putting them in a single motion. Works for me. Okay. So I would like a motion for acceptance of the agenda and acceptance of the minutes from the March twelve, twenty twenty six special meeting.

I motion that we accept the agenda and the minutes for March twelve, twenty twenty six special meeting.

Second. I second it. Thank you. Roll call, please.

Robin Barker.

Yes.

Judy Borey. Yes. Barbara Fitzgerald is absent. Catherine Meek. Yes. Nola Perkins. Yes. Vera Walters. Yes. And Alexander Wyroba is absent. The motion passes.

Thank you. All right. And we have no public, so we have no call to the public tonight. Correspondence and communications, any available? No? Okay. Moving on. I'm trying to help you out here, Nola.

That's great. Thank you.

Librarians report.

Does Nola have another event?

Nola would like to go do her water aerobics before

it gets too dark. Well, we could definitely make that happen. What time is that?

And we want to make sure it's still going to be warm enough.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, boy.

All right. Well, it's not a super long librarians report tonight, so you should be in luck. Good evening, everyone. Pam Harrison, library director, and here's our librarians report for 05/14/2026. Looking at the statistics, we've been pretty steady around 30,000 for circulation for the last two months and also around the 20 to 24,000 mark for statistics.

And the greatest thing that I found was or the most amazing, alarming thing I found was that circulation. Our statistics for patron visits in February was less than it was for March and April, which is normally our winter visitor month. So I thought that was a little alarming. In terms of programs, March was crazy numbers because of our flute festival, which brought in 1,100 people, bringing our total almost close to 5,000. But we continue to do approximately almost 200 programs a month and have some great attendance numbers, have tried some new programs for both adults and kids the last few months.

Maker Monday is a new one for adults that's been well received. Outreach did their Blue Heeler Bash again this year over at the dog Dutchman Dog Park with Parks and Rec, which was always fun. So a lot going on, Bibliobites, of course, with their programs. So we've got a lot coming up in the summer, though, and that's what I'll talk to you here in a few minutes. But first, the library reading garden.

Here's an aerial view from probably a few weeks back now. You can see the amphitheater down there just getting just being finished, these masonry right through here, the blocks. So let me just go over what has been completed so far and what is on the horizon. The construction of the seed storage shed and the greenhouse is completed. The amphitheater is completed except for the seat caps.

Concrete sidewalks and the seating pads are 90% completed. We're waiting on one more to be done. The fence panels began to be put up this week, which has been really cool to watch. Also a little sad because the fence is right here along this line here in the middle. And all this time, we've been looking at this fence way back here. So we lost some ground, but we knew that was happening. That would have been a really huge garden. So our fence panel has been going in and the gates. And the irrigation mainline was done this week with the backfills. We had lots of bulldozers and fun trucks out there this week for the kids to watch.

What's coming up soon is a lot of the fun stuff that's really going to start making it look like a real garden. The decomposed granite pathways, they started that today over by the shed in the greenhouse area. So they'll start to move south with that. There's going to be further irrigation work to get water to the raised garden beds, which haven't been laid out yet. The painting of the fence started today, as well as there's going be an anti graffiti coating on the paint.

So they're doing some welding, some grinding, lots of guys out there working on stuff. And next week is when the landscapers start. So it's gonna take three to four weeks to get the landscaping completed. So that will be all of the native plants that will be inside the garden, all of the cacti on the outside of the garden to act as a as a good barrier. Yeah, it's going to take a long time.

But it's going to look awesome seeing it go in. So we have a lot to look forward to. I've also been asked to sit on a panel of reviewers with the city's Public Arts Commission. We are going to be looking for an artist to create a design to have a sandblasting art piece put over here near the entrance exit to the garden over on the concrete pad over here, which I call the patio because it looks like a patio. So we have 33 artists that we're going to be looking at their art to see which ones we think will most match the vibe that we want to give to our garden.

So that's going to be really, really fun to do. Anybody have any questions about the garden? If you go to our website and go to Garden Construction, you can see new videos being uploaded each week. Time lapse videos takes two minutes. Really fun to watch. Everybody looks like bugs running around. Construction crews look like they're doing everything super quick. But they've been awesome. Wilming's our construction company. They've been great, keeping us informed and, making those last minute choices on changes, including everybody from our project manager for the city, myself.

We have Dave Butler from Parks helping us with and Shauna Hash helping us with a lot of irrigation aspects and some of the and a lot of the landscaping. Maggie Quinn from Public Works helping us with the facility side of things. We are going to have to do some creative roof work over here that overhangs the patio, because there's currently two downspouts that you can barely see. And they're on each end of the roof over here. You can't see the other side.

But that is going to create a big mess when it rains. Originally, we were thinking that we were going to have a rain chain, but facilities didn't think that was a great idea. So we're now working with a roofing company to develop something where the roof can be the gutter inside the roof can be sloped so the rain can go down to the south side of the roof and then dump into the riffraff down there and actually out with the rest of the water through the head walls. So it should work, but, yeah, a lot of little things to figure out that aren't really little things because they're going to make a big impact when all is said and done because we know what the rains can be like around here in the winds. So that is our garden update.

That curved wall, the one with the that going to be paved or is that gonna be planted or yeah. That that's

This paved wall over here? Uh-huh. So that's an existing wall. That'll landscape will be all underneath through there. Oh. Landscape and bollard lights. Yep. So that'll just be it won't be an area that we'll use for anything. It'll just be for looking good for plants.

It's a shame that we can't use the rainwater.

Well, maybe someday. But I mean, I guess we could if we put a barrel on the South side because there will be a downspout.

We'll one way and just catch it in a rain barrel if we happen to get any rain.

Yeah. Well, that's the other part.

Optimistic. Yeah. That would be an interesting thing to promote also.

Yeah. Think it's Conserving. Yeah.

I actually have one at my house, and it has a a rain chain that goes down, and it keeps getting then it has a spigot down at the bottom so we can empty it and use it.

Yeah. That's the next thing is figuring out how to get it back in the garden. Yeah. Yep. So the the substantial completion date is scheduled for May 22. And then June 22 is the when they I can't remember the words, but like the really substantial completion date. But so we're getting there really, really quickly.

What is that date?

June 20 June 22. Yeah. But then there'll be probably some punch list items and stuff. So I don't expect we actually having the doors open to go out there for the public until probably July. And then nobody will want to go out unless

And do a ribbon cutting?

Between the nine and 10:00 morning hour. We are planning to do a ribbon cutting opening, but not until October. We'll let you know when that is.

Let some of the growth get established, etcetera, before people are milling through it.

Yep. Yep, exactly. Nice cooler weather as well. Yeah, we'll do some activities, so we're starting to plan that now. I will let you know the date that is chosen.

Wow. That's gonna be grand. A grand opening.

So we have a great theme this year for summarizing that kids and families alike are going to love Unearth a Story with a dinosaur dinosaur theme. We have, of course, lots events planned because you know how our programming staff is. They just can't plan enough. The first thing we have planned is actually a after hour kickoff party for teens and adults. It's called the Jurassic Open. And a mini golf company is coming in with its own attendant, and they're gonna set up mini golf in the library stacks.

Oh my.

So they'll be I'm told there'll be a golf attire runway. So if you have really nice golf attire and would like to show that off, you could be on the runway. Mocktails and appetizers, and that'll be from six to 8PM on May 29, which I believe is a Thursday. The following week, we'll start with the programs for kids. Dinosaur Experience, it's going to have live dinosaurs on June 1.

And it's the Independence Day cork wall art using paint corks and cardboard to create a patriotic art piece will be one of the featured adult programs. Twain's will reduce, reuse, and recycleosaurus by creating a dinosaur from recycled materials. And there will be a dino cooking camp on Wednesday afternoons to make dinosaur themed shaped treats. I wonder who's doing that program. So those are just some of the highlights.

We have our brochure currently out, just came out this week, of all the summer events. And this is all, of course, in addition to our normal events, which we hold throughout the year. Well, most of them. Story times were stalled until August. Actually, September, I believe they take August off for a break to regain their breath after summer reading.

And of course, we'll have our book fair at the end where everybody from littles to teens can choose a free book from the Scholastic Book Fair, which will be July '18. They get one free book up to $13 which is always a lot of fun for the kids to pick out their book. And this is all of the different sponsors and partners that we have this year, providing prizes, support, and so forth. But it's pretty similar to last year. Texas Roadhouse, the Rubber Ducks, Culver's, Raisin Cane's for the prizes.

Of course, our AJ Pool pass or the MGC pass. Barrow's, I believe, is new this year with a mini pizza for the teens, raisin can, lemonade, all the healthy stuff. And then

And Blue Bell.

And Blue Bell. Yeah. Forgot about Blue Bell. Yeah. Yeah. Forgot about Blue Bell. Blue Bell is giving out free ice cream, I believe, at the kickoff for the live dinosaur event, I believe it is. So lots to see and lots to do. We expect it to be a really busy and productive summer. We're excited to have the dinosaurs. And make sure you're watching your social media for some fun videos that were just recorded today to come out soon. Right, Sansy? Yep. Yep. America two fifty.

So I'm sure you've heard about the American two fifty activities that is going on across the nation. Of course, the city has its own initiative. Library did receive a $4,000 grant to do a lot of the programming, which is great. And one of the things that they really wanted to do was have an eagle come to the library. So that dream came true last week when we had two I believe it was two bald eagles. No, was two owls. Did you miss it, Vera? Yeah. Dang it.

Two owls.

Two owls.

One

Were you there? Yes. Okay. Good. Okay. One was a small owl. I'm not sure what that one was called. Screech owl. Screech owl. Okay. I don't have pictures of all of them. And then the eagle. Did you get your picture taken with the eagle?

No, I didn't.

Beautiful. So at Liberty Wildlife, they always do a really great job presenting. And they're very active and animated in their presentations for us. Another activity that we did is what was called tile painting. And I should have gotten a final picture because it is now up on the wall in the opal room. But there were little canvas tiles. They were about this big. Catherine knows because she made one. And they were painted red, white, or blue. And everyone was encouraged at several events.

Even I came here to a council meeting to try to coax people to try their hand at writing something patriotic or inspiring or drawing a picture. We had a lot of events where people could decorate them in the way they wanted. And then when you put all of them together, I believe it was 325 of these red, white, and blue tiles, it creates a flag. And the flag is now hanging up in the opal room with all of these inspirational messages and pictures and lovely things. And I've failed to give you a picture, but come by and look in the opal room because it is very nice.

Other events that we have going on for the semi quincentennial that's what that's called, two fifty years the signing of the Declaration of Independence was a red, white, and blue barbecue. Didn't anybody make that last week? Just Alexandra, who's not here tonight. I went to this. It was on Monday night, and local pit boss from Dutchman's Country Barbecue, Sean O'Neil, MasterChef season seven champion, who is owner of Dutchman's Country Barbecue, came in and brought in two briskets, one fully cooked, ready to eat, and one totally raw, ready to prepare.

So he showed us in great detail how to trim your brisket properly, the different points, the flat and the point of the brisket, how to cut it correctly, how to smoke it, how to rest it, wrap it. You name it, he knew it. And then, of course, everyone had tons of questions. And afterward, we all got samples, which was the highlight of the night. We also had custom oven mitts and aprons made for all the attendees.

They were all allowed to pick one and have a saying of their choice on the written on it from our Cricut machine. So we had some pretty neat things that people wanted to put on there. And then there was a make your own spice rub station, so a bunch of different spices that you can mix together to make your spice rub for your brisket. So yeah, we want to thank you again to Sean O'Neil and James from his restaurant for coming. And it was the most men in a library program that I've ever seen. It was spectacular. So it was a really great time.

To do more of that kind of thing.

Yep. Exactly.

Those dudes in. Yeah. Maybe Father's Day coming up.

And a couple other America two fifty styled events we have coming up. Wednesday, June 10 at 10AM, we're doing what we call America Waves. We're inviting the community to join together to create a celebratory sea of red, white, and blue. Meet at Complex Park by the library or wave from home and tag us on social media, and you can pick up your flag, mini flag, from the library beginning May 26. I understand there's going to be red, white, and blue bomb popsicles at this event.

The Complex Park is the one that is between or kind of in front of MGC and to the south of us. So we expect, of course, a lot of city employees to be there since that it's at 10:00 in the morning. But, yeah, we hope to have a lot of participation in that as we wave our flags together.

And you want us to wear red, white, and blue?

I'm sorry?

You want us to wear red or white Well,

of or whatever?

Yeah. It's not required, but it is. Yeah. I'm sure it's recommended. Yeah. That's a good idea. Another event going on June 15, 05:30 to 7PM, is another one of our let's talk, presentations from Shane Krauser, who did our last one earlier this year. This one is gonna be on the Declaration of Independence, and it's a family program to explore the Declaration of Independence and talk about how it changed the world. So if you're interested in Declaration of Independence or learning more about it or

Was that what I received the last time you

had changed? Last time, it was the Constitution. So this time, he's going to actually talk about the declaration.

GREEN: is so good.

JULIETTE He is good. He's great. Yeah. He is a local author, speaker, expert on a lot of America historia. And then I believe our last event for America Two Fifty, at least for the library, is the America two fifty celebration, which is on Monday, June 29, five to 06:30PM.

So we're gonna be celebrating at the library with a living museum experience, a national treasure scavenger hunt, crafts, and activities for all ages. So everyone's invited to come to that. And then, of course, it'll be July 4, and one of our staff is going to Washington, DC for that. So that's going be definitely an event to remember. I'm sure it's going to be crazy down there. All right. And that is the end of the librarians report. Thank you.

Woah. Questions, comments other than the fact that I'm loud. Yeah.

Lot going on.

Yes. Yes. Always busy. Do we have any old business? New. And moving right along. New business. We have two things to look at.

Oh we don't have the we

have the

library standards to look over and the library reading garden standards policy to look at?

So the library standards that you approved library standards of acceptable behavior, that's just a final copy. Some of you asked to see the final copy of that from being approved at the last meeting along with the facility use policy and form. But it's also handy possibly to look at when you're referencing the new reading guarding standards of acceptable behavior that I'm proposing for tonight. Tonight.

All right. Then we move on to the library reading guardian

standards. Okay. So up on your screen and in front of you, you should have a sheet that is the the Reading Garden Standards of Acceptable Behavior. This was something that I said we had been working on at the last meeting. Vera had inquired about it as well.

We wanted to make this a pretty short, brief, but succinct policy. And of course, we're starting it off with saying that all of our other standards for inside the building from the normal library standards of acceptable behavior will apply within the garden so that we don't have to repeat all of those because that is such a long policy document. However, there are a couple in the garden policy that I I do put in there just because the fact that it's an outdoor space. We wanna make sure that those things are highlighted, such as service animals. We're not gonna be allowing pets in the reading garden.

Of course, we're, you know, even though it's outside, that won't be an acceptable thing. Dutchman dog parks right across the street. The same with smoking and vaping. We're outside, but we're still not going to allow that in the garden. That can happen outside the building. But I'll just start from the top. And if you have questions about things along the way, that's fine, or you can wait till the end.

Do you have an extra copy of that?

Think so. I did one. I don't have one either.

It's not at the back of your

It's on the back of your It should

be on the back of your

So the first paperclip packet, it should be at the end.

Where? It was just right behind the

Right behind the monthly report.

It was hiding. I don't have it.

It does. There's one. Thank you.

Did everybody locate it? Yeah? Okay. So we've got four different areas or topic areas for this policy. The first being use of the outdoor space, use of space.

Garden seating is for short term use. Prolonged use may be restricted at staff discretion to ensure access for all. We have always been a library that allows people to come in and stay the day, whatever their circumstances might be. But since the garden is going to really be a special place and it is not doesn't have a ton of seating, we don't want it to be monopolized by any one person at all. It should be a place where you can go out and read for a while.

You can enjoy the garden. You can do a program, but not a place to monopolize a bench or a picnic table out there for the whole day. So we didn't put any time frames on this because we wanted to be at staff discretion, but that is one thing that is quite different from our normal library building policy is the seating. The second one is in our normal library behaviors policy about keeping personal belongings with you. But we added on to that that we don't want people pulling over extra chairs, extra tables, blocking the walkways.

This is a limited space. There's only so many places you can go out there. So we want patrons to limit what they're bringing out there. And of course, that'll also be at the discretion of our security staff at the library. The amphitheater, we want to make sure that it's only used for seating.

It's not a place to go lay down and take a nap or anything else that people might think of using it for. The greenhouse and the shed, those will be locked unless the gardener, volunteer gardeners are out there or staff is out there. So we shouldn't have any problems with people using the insides for any purposes. But the greenhouse does have a small patio in front of it, a concrete patio, and we don't want that to be used as a seating, lounging, or sheltering area. Food is one that we kind of went back and forth with a little bit, but we do have our family courtyard, which is off the youth area currently, which has been out there for fifteen, twenty years at this point.

Food is permitted out there. We have never had any issues with food in that area. We're hoping that this is not that the garden is going to have any issues with food either. Our staff really want to eat lunch out there, which is one thing that we're like, we need to try food at least for a while. Plus, it's a garden.

We're gonna be growing food. So we would like to permit food out there at the picnic tables. If you're sitting at a bench, wanna have a snack while you're reading a book or watching the butterflies. But it is something that if it's not abided by, of course, we have the right to possibly change that for the future. There is only one trash receptacle out there.

It is a large one. But there will be additional garbage pails receptacles when you come back into the building. Behavior is pretty self explanatory. We don't want running, rough play, climbing on anything, moving furniture around. There is going to be one picnic table that doesn't really have a permanent home.

And that's a good thing because we can move it to different areas for different purposes, but we really don't want patrons moving those. We want it to staff driven. There's a water feature, which is basically a big bowl. And we don't want people, of course, using that for washing or playing, and, of course, climbing on the greenhouse or any of the structures out there or climbing the trees. So that is the behavior section.

We already did smoking in the service animals. Garden protection. Our garden beds are going to be maintained by staff and our designated garden volunteers. Only we can be planning, harvesting, or picking from those garden beds. We will have some signs out near the garden beds that say do not pick.

So hopefully that will deter anyone from trying to do that. And then we'll also don't want anybody picking, removing, or damaging any of the plants or landscaping we have there because we have a lot that have flowers. We have cacti. A lot of different things that, we wanna keep in place. And then the garden tools and the supplies, obviously, are for authorized use only for our volunteers and our staff, and those will be stored behind black doors in our garden storage shed.

And then lastly, the safety and security, we want we need people to stay out of the drainage areas and culverts. There is, the everything that is drainage related is outside the fence area, so, it should not be an issue, but it's another thing that we, of course, want to put in our policy. And then, phone numbers you can call for our library security, and for, Apache Junction Police Department if it's after hours in case anything looks awry around the garden. And as I said before, the garden can only be accessed from the inside the building. There's no, entryway, from the outside.

The gates are just for egress with the panic bars. So we don't expect to have any issues with that. So does anybody have comments, questions, concerns?

I have one comment that I hope would not be necessary, but perhaps it should be. Service animals are permitted in the garden, but you must pick up after your animal.

Correct. I and I could definitely add that. And my

I would hope it's not necessary.

Yeah, I mean, I guess I always think about service animals being in the library and you know it's not a service animal when it eliminates in the library. But if it's outside, it thinks it's outside. So, yeah, what do you guys think about that?

It's a good thought. Poop bags. Yeah.

Well, if you put too many poop bags out there, they're gonna go. They're gonna take

You don't wanna encourage it.

No. I don't wanna provide it.

No. No. Not not for there. Especially, you're not talking about a long term stay there. You're talking about relatively short term. And as an owner of an animal, I would know that my animal probably needed to go, and I should take it to the appropriate place.

Yeah. Yeah. But we really don't want it urinating out there where No.

Or you're growing food? Yeah.

I left a leg on the food. Right?

I I

had one question, and I don't know whether it's even logical. Do we have chairs in the library that a person could say pick up and take out to sit in the patio on?

I mean, yeah.

I kind of wondered if maybe one of

them added

that to that paragraph I

like that.

Really big that

I like that.

Should they not move those chairs but do not bring chairs?

Yeah. I like that idea too because we have that with our study rooms, not to bring furniture in or out. And if our budget gets passed this year, I do have some new furniture that will be outside the windows for the garden in the budget. So I definitely don't want those going outside. So where would you want that I under think it

would go with the use of space 1.2. It seems the logical place for it. Not only should they not be moving chairs, etcetera, out there, but don't bring any furniture out

Okay.

Or take it in for that matter.

Well, I'd rather than bring it in and take it out.

Yeah. But

true. True. Do we wanna wordsmith this now, or do you want me to come up with something for for

next month? Wanna make that a separate one because the the keep personal belongings with you is separate from the do not use extra chairs table, etcetera. It seems like keep personal belongings with you, library staff may limit belongings at their discretion if one thing.

Okay.

And that do not use extra chairs or bring them out is another. Okay.

I like that too.

I agree.

Okay. So I can make that a 1.3 and then, move 1.3, four, and five to four, five, and six?

Yeah. Okay.

I'm gonna make a comment that may be a little inappropriate. But the behavior running, rough play, and climbing are not permitted. But children are allowed in the garden area. Now when I attended the Liberty Wildlife presentation, this was for all ages. But in my opinion, and I may be old fashioned, the children distracted from the presentation by moving around, speaking out of turn, and being so loud that sometimes you couldn't hear the presenter.

And I would hate to see this in the garden, which is supposed to be a peaceful place for people to be.

So children should be accompanied by adults. And Well, I don't know where the adults were. But if you have the running and so forth in there also, then perhaps that will you don't want to make it so restrictive. There's got to be that balance between making it too restrictive and having it the Wild West.

But it's not a playground.

What

It's a about disruptive behavior will not be accepted or allowed?

You need a definition of disruptive What you call disruptive and what a parent might call disruptive are two different things.

She does have a point.

Yes. That's where you've got staff discretion. Need to be very specific on those things. Just a thought. I think it's a good thought. Mhmm.

I think we should give the staff a lot of discretion in in that regard. Sure.

But we don't want kids running from the castle Out the door. Out the door, through the garden, back in the door, back to the castle. I think it was a it's a legitimate point. Mhmm.

So what are you thinking, Vera?

I'm thinking there should be a distinction between a garden and a playground.

K. What did you originally say?

Wanted a playground. That's another thing. If if that's the purpose of having the garden is for kids to come out there and play.

Somebody said something about children need to be supervised at all times, and and then we got talking about disruptive behavior. So

That in itself should do it. And then you've got your staff discretion too.

So would that be under behavior, Robin, in your eyes? Do you want to say that aloud to me? Or somebody? Do all want to wordsmith it together?

Well, you have at the beginning that the garden is a space for quiet enjoyment Mhmm. Learning and community.

It's not a playground.

Okay. We can even say that the the garden is not a playground. Children need to be supervised at all times.

That works. Perfect. That's good. That's very good. I think if you have water features too, that kids, if they're not supervised, that the temptation of a water feature

It's too

especially in the warm weather. It's I too much.

I know. Some people are like, I what are you

think there's a lot of ways that kids could get in trouble if they're

not Oh, yeah. If there's not somebody, then staff can't be expected to keep an eye on everybody So out there has to be somebody that's supervising them. Yeah.

So there will I did tell you there will be security cameras out there that security can see. But of course, security is not always at their desk. They're doing their rounds.

And it only takes a minute for a kid to drown.

Is water

features out there. Yeah.

And you've got

Well, soon this is a good start, we may want to look at it and see how it works if if there are any issues that we have not thought of.

Correct.

You know,

I did plan on

Definitely. We can come back to her because we can't anticipate. I mean, you've anticipated so much that one little quirky thing that nobody thought, nobody would do that.

They do. They do. Yeah.

I did plan on making a sign that an abbreviated version of this into a sign. But I can definitely hold off on that. And then just for the first couple months, just provide the policy. Can have it maybe made into like a poster size and like put somewhere near, you know, I don't want it like taped to the glass or anything over there, but somewhere over near the garden entrance so that people Yeah. Know

going in if it's right on the wall inside.

Exactly. Yeah. That way people can read it, know it, and then, like you said, if more things come up or we wanna revise it, I don't wanna have a permanent sign that I have redo. No. No. Because

Yeah. We gotta try it out.

Exactly. I know. Because who we because we don't know what's gonna happen. No. Something that I never even thought of

Yeah.

Is going to happen.

I can't believe it.

And people are gonna look at me and say, what

did you do? It's just clever.

Maybe sometimes either a staff person or a volunteer could just walk through the garden. They don't have to reprimand anyone. They don't have to say a thing. Just observe.

Well, we do have if you check out at the service desk, you know that we have two people. The person that's front and center is what we call the service desk person. So they have to stay there because we always have to have at least one person there. The other person we call a roamer. So they can stay at the desk. But if it's not busy, they're supposed to be roaming around, seeing if people need help, filling up displays, doing stuff like that. So they will be the ones that can roam through the garden, and have that extra set of eyes for security. So, yeah, that's definitely a great idea.

It'll be interesting to to see what what we never thought of.

That word interesting. We use that word for everything. It's gonna be interesting.

Yeah. I think you did a really good job anticipating, but we'll see.

I know. Well, this has been a work in progress for probably six months because, you know, as you think of something, write it down. And staff, of course, had some input as well. But like I said, I don't want it to be like a three page document either because no one's going read it. No one's going to

Yeah. It's like those big signs that have no swimming, no fishing, no you know, next to one of those ponds.

Right. And they're Yeah. Huge. Mhmm. Nobody Nobody reads it.

You may see the no swimming maybe because that's what you were planning on doing. You know?

But, you know, you have a lot of kids that get dropped off at the library for hours and hours, and they're gonna be without an adult. They're going to be there without an adult.

And they're going to have to not go out there. It's for their own safety.

Well, just changed that to if you recall from the last meeting that we increased the age to 12.

Yeah. We kind of addressed that.

Yeah. So that's helpful. But yeah.

Is there a drinking fountain out there? Will there be a drinking fountain out there in the garden? No.

There is a drinking fountain nearby in the kids area between the bathrooms. But there, yeah, there isn't one out there, or won't be one out there.

Anything else? I think you've done an excellent job. Thank you.

Thank you.

We look forward to it.

Okay. I will add those extra those extra

Thoughts.

Yeah, I'm not sure what to call them. Add those. And do we have to vote on this for No. Because we're going to come back to redo it after we've been open for a few months. Okay. Sounds great.

This is a trial. Trial.

Yep. I like it. I'm sure there'll be lots of revisions.

And anything else for the garden? I'm so excited about this. I am so excited to see this happen. I truly am. I killed my hens and chicks. I'm the only person in the world that kills hens and chicks. Everybody else says that they're the easiest plants in the world. Nobody can kill them. I killed them.

I'm sorry. Well, you can come to a gardening workshop.

I I you know, what I did grow, though, was a hydrangea, which is not supposed to grow here.

Oh, my hydrangea was beautiful. And then it nobody covered it. I was gone, of course, during the winter. And they didn't cover it when those cold days, the nights that we had. And it died. But it's trying to come back.

Oh, that's good.

But I can certifiably kill a silk platter. Okay.

Okay. I have I'm in good company. Do we have any requests for future agenda items?

Just more status on the garden as it

goes along. Definitely. Keep us up to date. Alright. In that case, anything for the good of the organization, ladies? Alright. Then I will adjourn the meeting at seven, what, eighteen, and we're done.