Library Board - Regular Meeting

Hello, and welcome to the Apache Junction Parks and Recreation Commission meeting. It is six p. M. On Wednesday, April 1. Please rise and join me with the Pledge of Allegiance.

Thank you so much. And may I have roll call, please? Lamont Klepper?

Here.

Felicia Madrid? Here. Judy Borey? Here. Manny Vega?

Here.

Frank Schoenbeck?

Here.

D. L. Kine? Here. Heather Moeller? Here. Alright. Thank you. The commission may, at this time, take single action on any or all items listed as consent agenda items. These include acceptance of agenda and acceptance of minutes. Any member of the Commission may remove any item from the consent agenda for discussion and cause a separate vote on the matter later in the agenda. May I have a motion on the approval acceptance of the agenda and meeting minutes?

Madam chair, I move that the Parks and Recreation Commission accept the agenda as presented and approve the minutes from the 03/04/2026 regular meeting.

And may I have a second?

I second.

May I have roll call, please? Felicia Madrid? Yes. Judy Borey? Yes. Manny Vega?

Yes.

Frank Schoenbeck? Yes. D. Alkine? Yes. Lamont Klepper?

Yes.

Heather Moeller? Yes. And that motion passes. Thank you. And Commissioners, if you have participated in any Parks and Rec activities or I say activities was, sorry in the last month, please, now it's time to share all your fantasticalness.

I can start on this one.

I volunteered at the Itty Bitty Olympics last week, and that was a awesome event. Gary did a really good job of setting up. We had a pretty good turnout. Also, I wanna give a shout out to all the volunteers that came out during that time. I thought they did a great job of, you know, running the events, you know, getting the kids engaged. It was just a pretty fun event.

I've just been hunting the halls of the gym about three times a week. It's nice going there because I get to see you and keep an eye on the dog park and Flatirons I go back and forth, both of which always look good, really good.

Shout out. And I didn't attend any, like, official events, but I did get to see some facilities, which is really cool, seeing all the new things that are coming. So shade structures over at the dog park, complete overhaul at Supercision Shadows Park, beautiful. The shade is amazing. And what else did I see? Oh, the MGC, all the updates, the painting, and everything there. So just proud to live in this city.

And, you know, I've been into MGC to pick up all the different flyers and, you know, that are out there. So I have those on the bulletin board up at the chamber. But also the visitors love this map. Our winter visitors love the map of all the parks. And so they just didn't realize we had so many parks.

All

right. Well, thank you very much for sharing. Appreciate that. The presentation and update on projects and opportunities in parks and other service areas by Dave Butler.

Good evening, everyone. I have a few project updates tonight. As Felisa mentioned, we did, since our last meeting, install the new shade structures at the dog park. So those were in and out in about a week. So they look great. They seem to be pretty well received by everyone out there, so that's awesome. You might have noticed that the flowers at the focal point are missing a little early this year. It's been 105 degrees in March, so they just weren't going to make it much longer. So we did make a decision to go ahead and pull the annuals out. They will be bare for the next week or two, and then our summer annuals will go in.

So it just gave our team a little more time to prep the beds, make sure everything was ready for what seems like it's going to be a pretty hot summer. We do have an update on the pickleball courts. We are nearing completion. We believe May 21 is our target date to complete construction, and we will be doing some sort of ribbon cutting opening ceremony that I'm sure we'll invite all of you to to come out and open the courts with us. As soon as we have those dates, we'll get all that information out to you guys.

But as of right now, May 21 is our target date, and that could shift a few days here or there. At the rodeo grounds, we did get a date for the start of the large pavilion that's going up. April 27 is the date that we will start to put that up. I do have a couple photos I wanted to bring up. So these are just representational photos of what our structure will look like. It's not exact. Which is

next one?

Again, just another representational photo. It's the same model with some slight tweaks to ours. I did also bring a copy of the detail that I'll kind of walk you through some of the features of ours to just show what we are getting. So the overall structure is 40 by 94. It has an entry height at the this is a trellis structure that protrudes off the east side, and the entry height is about eight feet on that.

There are four big ass fans, 10 foot diameter fans underneath the main Ramada structure. There is festoon lighting that goes all the way around the perimeter and then also kind of crisscrosses in here. There's a separate detail for that I don't have, but it you you can imagine, like, bistro lighting, and that's exactly what we have out there. This is a side elevation photo, so this would be looking north south on the structure itself. So you can see the fans kind of hang down.

The support columns are very similar to the supports that are on the entry monument. So if you've been out to the rodeo this year and you saw the new entry monument at the gate, exact same idea, just on a way smaller scale. So masonry bottom with a precast concrete top. And then you can kind of see how that trellis extends out beyond the structure of the pavilion itself. This one to the right is just the east west view, so it is the easiest way to describe it would be farmhouse kind of style barn

Yeah.

Look to it. Again, it's massive. It's 101 feet overall in length. And there is a separate detail, and it's going to be really hard to point out. There's this gap that you can see right here between the two barge beams on the roof levels.

There's actually a custom infill panel that goes in there that has laser cut horseshoes all the way through it. So it's kind of just an art piece that goes on the top of the Ramada there. So like I said, this will start April 27, and it'll take about two to three weeks just to erect the structure. During that same time, we'll be installing all of the light poles, finishing up some electrical stuff. And we think that we'll be done with completely done with phase one of the Rodeo Grounds mid June of this year.

The last thing that I have for you is that you should have a copy of the tree memorial packet that we went over at our last meeting in your packets. It should have all the information that we went over last time. Just wanted to give you guys a copy of it. And if you have any questions or anything, feel free to reach out to Christie or Liz or myself, and we'd be happy to answer them for you. That is all I have for you this evening, unless you have any questions for me.

What's the trellis measure? It's 20 by what?

Just the trellis? It's about 20 feet by 47.

Okay. I see. Thanks.

Dave, did you say are there misters underneath?

There are no there's no misters. It's just lighting and the fans. Okay. Getting water to it would have been a nightmare.

But I will say those big fans do work. Oh, yeah.

Are really impressive. Yeah. They put out they're 10 feet in diameter. So if your average house, your fan in your living room is, like, four feet. So they put out a lot of air.

I mean, it's definitely an upgrade from what we have out there for, like, For the big

sure. Yes.

All right. Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Presentation, discussion, and update on upcoming events and activities by Jamie Sullivan.

Cute.

Put that on the cover somewhere.

That is cute.

So we had a busy month, and we have a busy month coming up. But I am going to keep my presentation tonight short because I am going to be inviting Jody up and having Yac present on their updates. And so I'm going to give most of my time to them. Had like I said, we had a very busy March. We started off with our sleepover with 118 participants. The wind died down enough for them to have an amazing event during the day, and then they got to feel what it felt like to sleep in a windstorm in a tent

in the

middle of

a ball field. But, all the tents were still standing in the morning, and everybody got home, so we consider that a win. We had the Blues and Brews, and we also had a new event in town, the Boots and Barbecue, that was hosted at Flatiron Park. Lots of kudos to Riley. She works with those partners and getting those folks in and keeping them happy so they'll come back and do more events with us.

We did have itty bitty Olympics, and it was unseasonably warm. And Manny got to see how we improvised at the last minute with trying to keep inflatables cool because they tend to heat up rather quickly. We did see a dip in numbers, but rightfully so based on the weather, I was still pleasantly surprised to have about 65 kids. And you combine that with their parents, and we had probably a 150 people out there. So it was a really nice morning.

A little warm. Lots of red cheeked kids, but still a great event. Similar with Dino Days, so we had Dino Days last weekend where we got to have dinosaurs out at Flatiron Park and a little bit unseasonably warm, which I will attribute to our numbers being a little bit down. But, again, we still had probably over a thousand folks out there for the two hours. And when your numbers are down like that, you get to really have an up close and personal experience with the dinosaurs, and it doesn't feel super crowded.

And everybody thinks it's a great event just because there's a little bit more space out there. But overall, it was still a fantastic event. We also had our leaping leprechauns. So as I mentioned, the month or the week of spring break, we get visitors from Ireland that come over and stake out. I am proud to say that we had the same amount of leprechauns that we started with this year, and that has never happened.

So they all safely got back, and none decided to stay. And we will be doing that again at Christmas time when the elves come to visit Silly Mountain. We also finished our last weed pull up at Silly Mountain. It's now too hot for those, but we are super appreciative of the volunteers that come out and give of their time to pull someone else's weeds and not just their own. April, we are here.

I wish I had a really good April pools fools joke to pull on you guys, but I I didn't have time to get creative. But we have Easter on Saturday. So if any of you haven't already offered to volunteer and you're like, gosh, what am I gonna do on Saturday? We would love to help you come out and count kids and, you know, put out Easter eggs and, you know, work at the bunny booth or so if you have the time and you would like to come see Chaos in its complete beautiful bliss, let me know because it it's fantastic. The event starts at nine, but we would need our volunteers there by eight or you won't get a parking spot.

If you have family or friends that are planning to attend the Easter egg hunt, please tell them to leave their house no later than 08:15. And should they leave after 08:30, send them right to the rodeo grounds because we will be shuttling to the park from the rodeo grounds for overflow parking. We have Earth Day. We have a concert. We have Art Olympics. We have April Pools Day at the end of the month. Moving into May, I'm only gonna mention, because I'll update you more. But in May, we're excited that we're offering a new event this year. So we've always had, a father daughter dance in June, and we've had our Mother's Day tea party. But we have gotten a lot of requests to have a mother son event.

So for the first time in May, we'll be offering a mother son Nerf night. Our information is already out online, so if you're interested in that or if you know somebody who would be, please let them know that we are listened and we are responding to their request. So is there any questions on any of those recreation updates?

When does the Mother's Day tea?

Every year, I say I'm

gonna do it, and I never do it in time.

I am so I I printed out a whole thing, and I forgot it. If my oh, yeah. May 9. Right?

The Saturday before Mother's Day.

And this year, it falls on May 9, and you have to buy your tickets in person at the senior services. Well, we if you get into the building, we'll help you get your ticket. But you do have to buy them in person because you're actually physically given a ticket.

You're not sold out this year yet?

As of right now, we are not. K. We will just start advertising. So I would recommend if you want to go that you go see Jody and her team next week and get your tickets. I also missed it last year because it was sold out.

We just we already had a lot of purchases today. So yeah.

What's What's the cap for capacity on Okay. Okay. What's the

We take a little over 100.

Okay.

Are there any other questions on that?

No, because you walked up.

We're all good.

Do you want me to repeat that information?

Okay, looking good.

So

Mother's Day tea is May 9. Buy your tickets at the senior center. They are $10 a ticket, and they will likely sell out very quickly. Other questions for recreation programming? Okay.

So I'm going to continue, but I'm going to turn my time over to Jodi Dutra, who is the coordinator for youth and senior services. She is bringing with her tonight our youth advisory council. And just a little history, our youth advisory council is made up of mostly all teens in the Apache Junction school boundaries, not just AJ schools, but within our school boundaries. And last year, when they all graduated, we had one remaining youth advisory council member. Jody and her team worked extremely hard, and I think we have up over 20 participating. Is that about right? We have,

yeah, like 20 signed up. And then it's, you know, depending on the events and the activities, not all 20 show up, but that's how many participants who are signed up for the program.

So tonight, her and her youth advisory council will be presenting on their year end review because as school wraps up, so is kind of their year. So Jody, I'm going to turn it over to you now.

All right. Thank you. Hi, everybody. So I'm Jody Dutra, Recreation Coordinator over Senior Services and School Age Programming. I am here tonight with our Youth Advisory Council. So they were established in 2016. For those who don't know, the purpose of the council is to give TINA voices, get them involved in the community of Apache Junction, and also to work on their, leadership development. So tonight, I'm just here to introduce them. Tonight, Nadine, Naveh, and Liz are all gonna be here presenting to you guys. And Nadine is going to come up here first.

My name is Nadine Owen, and I'm the president of the Youth Advisory Council. Our vice president is Jade. Unfortunately, she's not here with us today, but our treasurer is Liz. She is here with us today to help present. And then we have Dublin as our secretary, Leo as our public informational officer. You said just click it? Mhmm. Okay. So one of the big things that we did this year was we attended a lot of youth leadership development events. So the first one that we went to was the Arizona League of Cities and Towns, which was a bunch of not only just youth leaders, but all of the mayors and other political people from throughout the state.

And so while all the mayors were doing their own separate things, all of the teams broke out into, like, smaller groups, and we had motivational speakers. We talked to each other. Some of us even got a chance to help or to get a chance to learn how to do public speaking. And then another one we did was went to Florence Teen Leadership Symposium, and that one was just teen leaders. So for that one, it was more like collaborating collaborating with people our age about what they do for their communities, how we could help our community further, and just how we can get better at public speaking again. And then another one we did was the youth advocacy day. I'll hand the floor over to the base for that.

So for the youth advocacy day, we discussed ways we can communicate to our community to help better say our opinions on things and how to speak in front of a group of people. We also partnered with Stand Up AJ and worked on a Not My Story project where we made posters discussing mental health in a way we can improve it. And you guys have those said posters. We also did a Glendale Youth Advocacy Day where we, like I said, went over how to discuss with our community on ways we can improve as a whole and how we can talk in front of groups. And then we also did a Phoenix Youth Advocacy Day where we went to the capital of Arizona and met with two representatives to pretty much show them our posters and see if they're willing to help us in any way.

Just want

to add in real quick about their work with the posters. So you can kind of see from the picture. So Travis, he's up at the top picture leaning over the table. He was he's a third party through Stand Up AJ. He worked with the teens to help bring their images to life.

So it's kind of hard to see the detail, but the posters that, like, Liz are holding up and the boys, that is their drawings and their editions of what they wanted the posters to become. And then Travis took that back to his team to make actual posters and the flyers that you guys have now. And then as well so there's, like, the little sticker. There's bookmarks and the coloring pages, and we are also getting some bigger poster sizes of the hero one and the matrix one. And I believe as well they want to add the fire department and the police department's logos onto the HERO one, and then we can give those to them as well to keep.

Those posters are great.

I'll pass it back to Maydeen.

A big thing that we did this year was we worked with our local government to understand how our specific government here in Apache Junction works. So me personally, I interviewed Bryant Powell because we're doing this thing called the teen takeover. So I will not all of us, but, like, a lot of the board members are doing individual interviews with specific directors from different committees for the city to just to understand, like, what they do for the city and how it works. So we did those, and then we recorded the videos. They'll be posted hopefully soon.

I don't know when. But just so that not only does we understand how the city works, but so other people hopefully, other teens will understand how it works because if they're listening to people their age, maybe it'll make more sense to them. So I did the one with Bryant Powell, and then Jade, our vice president, also did one with chief Pooley. And then a few of them actually came into our meetings and helped present at our meetings. So we had Angelie and Joel come in and help present.

And then just recently, we also went to the state of the city address to listen to the mayor speak and just celebrate what we did as a city this year, not only just the Youth Advisory Council. And then our theme this year or, like, our big project of what we're trying to accomplish this year has been to help animals. So we've been partnering with the Apache Junction Animal Control. So we had, like, a few smaller donation events. We did photos with Santa Paws where people were able to bring in donations in exchange for a picture with Santa Claus for their pet or just for their family.

And then we took all those donations down to the animal shelter. And then we also did pup cups and hot cocoa for a story walk earlier on in the year. And then for our big event, we're doing a pause and donate April 24 from five to 7PM at the Dutchman Dog Park. So people are encouraged to bring a donation. There's gonna be activities and games, maybe food trucks. We don't know about that yet. And then in exchange for the donations, they can either have, like, a family picture with the Bluey sisters or, like, a picture with their animals just because in, like, Bluey's a dog, like, the dog event, and, like Mhmm. It encourages the littler kids to come too because a lot of little kids like Bluey. So be sure to be there.

Hi. My name's Elizabeth Lukens, and I am currently the treasurer of part of the Youth Advisory Council. I just want to talk a little bit about what we do for the community. Currently we have over four fifty eight hours both this year and last year as a whole group. I personally, it was earlier mentioned, the weed pulls.

I have personally done over five of those since I live right in like the Silly Mountain Park area, so I can just bike my way there. But those really help the community. We've also done mud runs. We've set up a booth at Mad Science Night, Halloween Festival. And we've also done numerous Christmas events last year. So yeah. I'll be passing it back to Nadine.

Okay. Thank you so much for listening to our presentation. I hope you guys learned a little bit about what we did this year. Not only did we partner a lot with Parks and Rec to help them, we also partnered with the animal shelter, with the police department, like, a little bit. We got a tour. We did an interview with them, and just with a bunch of different directors for the city. So if you have any questions, feel more than free to ask them right now, or else you guys are always welcome to reach out to Jody. And be sure to follow us on Instagram so you can learn more about what upcoming events that we have, such as the

what was it called? The pause one?

Pause and donate. Sorry. Mhmm. That's gonna come up this month, April 24 from five to seven. Any questions?

Guys are awesome.

You have a question?

For the dog event, do you

need a dog?

You're more than welcome to bring a dog, but you don't have to.

K. Perfect.

It's more like a family event, how Parks and Rec always has events. So it'll be like a family event, like there's gonna be games and activities there. But then we're also gonna have dogs there because, like, it's a dog park, you can bring your dog. You can make a donation. You can get a picture with Louie.

On the pause event, I also had a question. What kind of donations are you guys looking for?

So it's basically whatever the animal shelter needs. I know they always need bleach, dog food, dog toys, old blankets, old towels, anything like that. I know they probably have it posted on their Instagram, like, directly what they need, but just anything really. You can also donate cash if you have no like, if you don't have an idea of what to donate.

And we're we're gonna post we have, like, an exact list from Kennedy of things that they need the most. So, like, laundry detergent was one of them. So we'll post that, and then we can share it to email out to you guys as well, like, whole list if you're wanting to donate.

Do you have a how do how do you interact with fellow students as part of the youth advisory?

With, like, fellow students through our city or through the state?

Through the city. Through right here in town. I mean, how are you received by your fellow students?

We've seen a lot of, like, fellow students at the events. So, like, the holiday events, the trunk or treats. We saw a bunch of people there, also in the mad science event. So those are more, like, where we're helping volunteer. But I'd say for the ones, like, we're doing, like, the stand up AJ, we're helping make the posters. Hopefully, once we get them on a larger scale, like, can be at the school or something like that, like, around town at the library. So fellow students can help see those. And then we also do like, I know Jody and Kelsey help go to the schools to recruit more people for YACC. So that's how I found out about it actually, is because they came to my school during lunch.

Thank you.

So you recruit year round. It's not necessarily at the beginning of the school semester. Perfect.

You answered one of my questions, which was where can we learn about everything you guys are doing, which is Instagram. So thank you for taking care of that. And then the other question I had, what's your age range and are there qualifications to join yet?

The age range, I'm it was supposed to be, like, just high schoolers, but I know this year, not not as many high schoolers wanted to join. So there's a few like, majority are middle schoolers this year. So it's eight through 12. Oh, it has? I thought last year was all all high schoolers. It was all. Oh.

They can be eight through 12.

Oh, okay. Okay. But yeah. And then for qualifications, I know we had to get was it like letters of recommendation? We had to like write a short essay about like why we wanted to be in it. There's like a packet.

Yeah. There's just like an application, volunteer application, professional statement to sign, and some essay questions to fill out. Okay. And like she said, yeah, eighth through twelfth grade, they either have to reside in Apache Junction or go to school in Apache Junction.

I just want oh.

Really quickly, you can also look on our website. So the Youth Advisory Council has their own section where the application can be found, all of the details. It doesn't have every program because, again, they spend time marketing and doing that in places where they're going to be, not necessarily websites. But you can find a lot of information there.

And I just want to make a comment that you guys are really inspiring. Think it's amazing what you're doing and contributing to our city. I just very

pleased Does that mean you're going be there at the Pause and Donate event?

I have to check my schedule. And my girls would love to. They would absolutely. Have two Any daughters, so

other questions? Okay. Thank you guys for listening.

Thank you for being here.

Thank you. You.

Thank you, guys.

Thank you, Jody and Youth Advisory Council for giving up your time tonight. I know it's can be a little bit nervous, but thank you guys so much for coming. Yes.

So

Thank you. Thank you, guys.

Thank you.

And I turn my time over.

I'm done. Right. Thank you very much. Next, we're going to have some old business, the presentation discussion on the Parks and Recreation Fee Study by Riley Keane.

Good evening. So I am bringing back to you discussion again about our fee study. A lot of what you see in the presentation will be the same. You guys did ask us to bring back some more information, so that is in here. So just, again, the background, we have to do this every five years by state law, and it includes our program memberships, reservation, and equipment fees.

Just a reminder of our market cities and then the income per capita. Again, just a brief reminder for you. Our recreation center and aquatic passes, I'll just remind you how it works. So it shows our price now, our benchmark average, and then on the bottom or on these sorry. On these ones, five of our benchmark cities have recreation and pools combined, and so that's why some prices are a little bit higher than what you would see ours because ours are not combined.

Our recreation aquatic center facility rentals. So you got to see this last time. Our program fees. So this is one that you guys asked me to bring back a little bit more information for you. So at the top, you will see the benchmark average and then our ranges for our classes.

And then at the bottom, you had asked about adult sports programs and what each of our programs cost. So you'll see at the bottom that our current price and what each of these programs would cost somebody. And then, again, golf is $5, but they also pay a greens fee directly to the golf course, which is why it is $5 to us. Any questions on the adult sports programs? Because that is a new one for you guys this time.

Okay. Oh, was there a question?

Okay.

On adult sports league, it says benchmark is 300 to $4.45, and you have like 5, which would be the golf.

Would that be the golf? Yes. Okay. So that $5 is because we have to, be able to include our $5 golf league. So that's why that one is, lower Okay. For us.

And, yes, just remember, the middle column is what other cities pay. They just probably don't have a small program, a league fee like we do. So as Riley said, we had to make ours as small as we could to accommodate that.

And the five market cities that have the combined

Which ones are they? They are off the top of my head. Sorry. Queen Creek, Avondale, Marana Maricopa. Maricopa. And I it's either Buckeye or Goodyear.

I We can get that information for you.

I would have to look at my spreadsheet to see which ones. Our park rental fees, so these are the same ones that you saw last time. But you did ask for me to bring oh, I'm sorry. One more slide. And then our rodeo and event center, just a reminder, our comparator cities for these are different than the ones we use for everything else because not every city has a rodeo and event center.

So that's why we listed which ones don't have them that we looked at. The other hard part about rodeo grounds and event centers, no one center is the same. So comparing is very difficult. So we tried our very best to try to find similar amenities if we could.

Yeah, that's what I was going to say. There's not really one direct, like, close comparison, is there?

There's not. Payson is similar.

What are the different because I was wondering now. What are some of the it doesn't have to be technical, just off the top of your head is fine. But what are some of the differences between a patch junction and Payson?

So Payson's is just an arena. They do have some open area around it. We have much larger open space than they do. They have more bleachers than we do right now, so they have ability to seat more people than well, actually, I can't tell you if it's more or the same as us, but they have bleachers kind of all around their facility. But we have that theirs is really just an arena with a little bit of open space for food trucks vendors. Ours, we have that whole extra open space. I don't want to guess,

but I

would say ours is bigger. Our whole area is bigger than just their arena that they have. Okay. And then Queen Creek is double our size. They're a vent center. I have not been to Tucson Cave Creek or Hila Bend to see what the differences are. We've looked at aerial shots if they have them. But again, none of them are the same.

And all of these that you looked at are city owned?

No. Some of them are privately owned. Payson Okay. Is city owned. Queen Creek is city owned. Tucson, I believe, is city owned. It's either Cave Creek or Gila Bend that a group owns it. It's not owned by the city.

Yes. Okay. Oh, okay. Nonprofit. You are on.

Sorry. I wasn't on. Oh. I would also just mention, though, so while they are different, they're not that different as far as what people are renting. It might be a big space, but we also break ours up into multiple spaces. So our arena and their arena

Are very similar.

Are probably the same ish. It's that we have other spaces that people can rent and expand. We have 20 acres. I don't know what theirs would be, but it's also broken up into different spaces. It's just some facilities have things that have a cover over the whole arena. So Queen Creek has multiple spaces. It's really hard to say compare apples to apples, because some are out with no cover, others are underneath a ramada. So they're just all very, very different.

Yeah, like Queen Creek is fully covered, right?

One of theirs.

Yeah, not all of their arenas are. They have multiple arenas.

So they have two covered arenas, and they have four that are not covered.

And then you can see on here the very first one is Rodeo Park Arena. Really, it's like Rodeo Park Arena or the multi use area. Each of those is only $8 to rent the whole thing. Nobody else probably has one that doesn't come with light. You know what mean? You're paying for lights. Is that kind of the difference in this? Because then the next one is Rodeo Park Arena with lights.

Yeah. So Payson, it's with light. Like, there's not a separate fee. You pay this amount for lights.

No matter what. It's just one of what.

If we don't turn the lights on, it's $8 an hour. Once we turn those lights on, it goes to $17 And it mirrors how we do our sports fields. So our sports fields are the same way. So if you're renting our sports field without lights, it is cheaper. Once we turn the lights on, then that price goes up to pay for the lights that you're using. Makes

sense. Yeah.

So this slide is the one you did ask me to bring back kind of our usage of our areas for rentals. Dog Park is one of our most rented spaces. Mhmm. And then you can see we broke it up by the amenities. So we have dog parks, small ramadas, large ramadas, our open spaces, softball and baseball fields, soccer and football fields, sports courts, our aquatic centers, and then our classrooms at the MGC and the rodeo grounds.

And so external reservations, so these are ones that we got that were paid for. Somebody came in, reserved them. Total bookings is the total amount that it was booked. So if we have an event, obviously we're not that's going be an internal reservation. It's not that external. So I wanted to be able to show you what's it being rented for, and then also how often is it used. So our sports programs use our softball fields, but we don't pay that for that, but that they're still being used. So that's why I wanted to show you guys the external reservations along with the total booking, so you saw how much our facilities are being used.

So somebody who wants to rent a softball field for a team that's not aligned with the city program at all, is that how that works?

Yes. So that would be an external.

They have a company picnic and they want to use a softball field? Mhmm. Thank you.

You're welcome. And also, these are just reservations, so it doesn't count when somebody just wants to come use our facilities for active use. So if you have five people and you wanna go hit balls on our softball field, you don't have to reserve it to do that. You're welcome to go out there and use it. You wanna come first come, first serve. You have 24 people. You wanna come use the Ramada? You're welcome to do that. So this isn't total use of our parks. It's just what's booked and what is structured use of those facilities.

And then the next one, so you had kind of been asked a breakdown of our revenue. So what brings in the revenues and how that kind of falls? So you'll see on here, the multi gen center is our biggest revenue with fees. So you'll see that that that's the big one, and we knew that one. It's open every day, but Sunday, three hundred and sixty five days a year.

So that one is going to have the most amount. And then everything else kinda just falls within there. Aquatics, even though it's open a couple months a year, it still brings in a good amount of revenue for us. Facility rentals is our next biggest one. And when we say facility rentals, it's all of the ones that you just saw that we rent out. This also includes equipment. So facility rentals, any equipment also falls in that facility rental number.

With the MGC, like my case, I get my membership paid by SilverSneakers. And when that happens, do they pay the membership fee for a year once I sign up, or do they pay by each visit?

So they each so they we have three. They're SilverSneakers, Silver and Fit, and Renew Active. Each of them pay differently depending on the program. So SilverSneakers, they will pay us up $10 per visit up to don't quote me that it's actually $10 but the example of they pay us a certain amount per visit up to x amount of visits. So if you come 15 times and their limit was 20, they're going to pay us for your 15 visits with whatever dollar amount that is. And each all three of them is a different way they pay us. But we do pay monthly, so JJ submits a report to them after the end of the month, and then they pay us the next month for all those visits.

So for you, Frank, particular, it's really important that you swipe your card every time you come because that's how we report.

I never miss it.

Some of the contracts are based on per visit. Some of them are based on per month. But we don't it's equitable to what other people pay as well.

Thank you.

Any other questions on the revenues?

The seniors, that's really a slim one.

It is. So that really is a donation asked for when they take the van. A contribution.

That one? Or is that for the program? The learn It's both.

Or the food?

Nope. So we don't run the food program. We contract with CAA.

The grant donations.

Yes. The van we do. The van does.

Not the

the food. So when our riders use the van service, we allow them to leave a little bit of money if they can. But obviously, it is very, very little. And this is also the, leisure time program, which is only $20 for six months. And it just allows them to participate, like, in a walking club or a very few programs that we have a small charge for.

A lot of our special interest programs that are also all ages or adults, those are in that special interest number. So the senior number you're seeing is just really their donation to being able to use the van or being able to participate in that very specific program. And that is very, very nominal. This is not surprising to us at all.

Any other questions? The other thing you asked me to bring back was some example costs for events. So I have three different examples for you. This would be if Lost Dutchman days were to pay fees. They are a city partnered event, so their fees are waived.

These are just kind of shown as example costs for you guys. So if somebody wanted to come in and do a Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday type event at the rodeo grounds, this is what they would pay for and how much it would cost. And I broke it down by facilities and equipment, so you could kind of see the difference. Some people bring in their own tables and chairs. Some people use ours. Some people have their own water truck. Some people want ours. So it's just, an example of things that somebody might request.

And then just keep in mind, like Riley said, these are, like, the facility rental fees. So Yeah. PD contributes a ton of manpower. Parks and Rec contributes a lot of manpower that's more associated with the partnership of this event, not necessarily what we would do for any entity that was just renting the facility. So just kinda keep that in mind.

Yeah.

And porta potties and and trash pickup and all of that?

So porta potties and trash pickup and light tower rentals, that is all on the group to do. That is for our own events. Obviously, we pay those costs. Mhmm. We don't have light towers for people to rent, so they have to rent their own. We don't have porta potties for people to rent. They have to rent their own. So again, those costs are going to be will add to what it would cost for them to run an event. This is really what it costs to rent our facility and our equipment.

That's good to know.

Any questions on this one? I have two more examples for you to look at. I'll hold my question. No problem. So I did the Blues and Brews.

So again, this is a city partnered event. So we waive the facility and equipment rental fees. But if somebody were to have just a one day concert at Flatiron, so this is at Flatiron Park, with the facilities and equipment that we have, this is what it would cost them to run that event. And then the other one is a three day music festival with a Monday through Thursday setup time, so they need that whole Mhmm. Week before to set up for their festival.

That is, again, the facilities and the equipment at the rodeo grounds that they use. This is the price that they would pay to have a three day music festival with PrEP before.

One other thing to keep in mind. Riley, is it would it be accurate that these are all the nonprofit rates?

Yes. These are all nonprofit.

Everything we're doing is that we show you is the nonprofit rate because that's the main one that we compare to by market. And then in our fee policy in the code, we charge more for a nonresident if a private person was renting a facility. We charge more if a commercial entity, so a for profit entity was, gonna be utilizing the facility.

And sorry. I misspoke. Blues and Brews, technically, if we were to charge them, it is ran by a for profit entity. So the prices that you see there, they are for profit.

Very good. Okay.

Sorry. That one is a for profit. Your three day music festival and your last Dutchman days would be a nonprofit or resident, if a private resident was

it is still Blues and Brew is still a city partner event?

It is still a city partner event. So they don't pay these fees. These would just if a for profit business wanted to come have a one day concert at Flatiron, that is what they would pay.

So have a question for you.

Yes.

The open space, the $12, so the $1.44, so does that mean, like, Flatiron is, like, in 12 grids?

No. How does that work? So open space, the grass at the park is $12 an hour to rent the entire grass at Flatiron Park. Oh. It's 12 the $12 right there is $12 an hour. Okay. So they're paying that per hour that they're there.

And that's open to anyone to rent, right? Yep. Okay.

Flatiron is we own it. So any for profit oh, sorry, nonprofit, nonresident, anybody can rent that space to have an event there. Some of our other parks are on BLM land, so there is other stipulations that go along with being on the BLM lease.

One of the questions I had was when looking at the Rodeo Event Center current amenities or the tractor water truck operator. The benchmark average is forty to four hundred, and then ours is our current fee is 55. Did you look into why that the range on that the benchmark is so vast?

So, again, we picked our, for our price, we looked at how much it is Sorry. For so we you have to have a CDL. You have to have a CDL to drive the water truck.

Is somebody else trying to do that? Will you do it and not

me? Sorry.

So it is a CDL to drive the water truck. So we looked at what our specialists, what we pay our specialists an hour to come drive that water truck, and then what the water would be. And so that's how we came up with our fee.

So we

took what it cost for us to drive the water truck so that we're making sure we're making our money. We're not losing money by paying that staff to come in to drive that water truck. The benchmark average 40 to 400. They could have larger water trucks. They could have multiple people coming in. Again, it's hard to know They kept four arenas. Yeah, they kept four arenas that they're watering. They could have And

it could also be just like a daily so there's just so many factors in general. And to do an average would skew this substantially.

Yeah.

So there's just so many different reasons.

Yeah. But that's why you see our fee as what it is. Okay. And that's how we when we did the fee, that's how we figured it out.

Okay. So this is for that also leads to something else. So the operator, it's you're getting an operator. This is never for them? No. Nobody yeah. This is Nope. We You have to pay us

We do not allow non city employees to drive our vehicles. And then, again, the water truck, it takes a CDL to drive.

So not, I can't drive

that water

truck. Liz can't get in the water truck. So it really takes a specialized person to be able to drive it.

Yeah. Was like, she can get in and wait.

Yeah. Drive those vehicles.

Okay.

Dave wouldn't want any of us in those vehicles anyway.

Riley, on the the the camping for the RVs?

Yes.

Is do we only do we plan to have that only during events, or do we plan to open that up during nonevent time?

The dry camp fee or the RV spaces?

Either one. Either one.

So we have talked that during events, obviously, the event promoter is gonna decide. So if they're gonna use the RV spaces, that's another fee they're gonna pay. But we talked about when we don't have events there, it's a great way for us to be able to bring in revenue if we decide to go that way.

Are we gonna have an on-site manager?

We will not. We have park rangers on that are on until midnight. Our guys are there Monday through Friday. We have staff Saturday. We have a park attendant on Saturday, Sunday. Queen Creek has set it up to where they don't have to have somebody. So we would do research into, are we gonna allow this? We're not just gonna say, yep. Everybody come to camp. We would definitely have processes and research. Yeah.

We wanna be cautious with it.

Yes. And how to do that. And we even talked about during marathon, people are looking for places to stay that are close.

Yeah.

And so we use the outside for parking, the parking lots for parking, but is that a good way for us to bring in revenue to let people come camp inside the gates? So it is a good opportunity for us to find a new source of revenue, but it wouldn't just be automatic, hey, everybody can camp. We will definitely have a process, stipulations, guidelines, all of that.

Yeah. Bluegrass Festival, that was some camping then. Right?

Yep. So the Bluegrass Festival allows camping in the parking lot. And so, again, when there's a major event going on and they're renting the whole facility, that's up to them if they're allowing camping or not. It's just when we don't have those big events, it's something for us to consider if we want to allow people to pay the fee and come camp. Yeah.

And what area would they be camping in?

So the RV space so for the RV spaces, they're along the fence line. The dry camp fee, we can allow them to park anywhere we have parking with that fee.

Okay.

So we could decide we want it behind the bleachers on the one side. That's where camping can be when there's not events out there. So we can decide those places where we want

And will this be for like vans, RVs only? Or will there be like because the Lost Dutchman Marathon, maybe somebody wants to tent camp. Is that going to be a thing?

So again, when we decide those, if that's something we want to pursue, then we can have those discussions about what are the stipulations. It has to

be an RV, or it

has to be you have to have a tent. You can't just come camp in your car. We'll have those stipulations.

Well, and then on top of it, I'm assuming the Marathon would you guys would work with the Marathon to make sure although there's no amenities, maybe there are porta potties nearby for those areas, if that's something that

And so again, the rodeo grounds does have bathrooms.

So you might have make that accessible.

Yep, so we could open those bathrooms up and let people use them if we decide we want to go that route. And then other people so like Bluegrass Festival, they put porta potties near their campsite where they're allowing people to camp.

Okay. Okay.

Is there any other questions? So our next steps

I did have one, sorry. The portable stalls so we have the portable stalls, right? Renting. Is the benchmark, are all of them portable or are they fixed stalls? Do you know that?

So Queen Creek's are both. Have portable and fixed stalls. I'd have to look at my spreadsheet to see what other cities had. I know there's a couple other cities that had stalls, but I'd have to see if they were portable or permanent. But they all are very similar to what our portable stalls are.

And then with that, our portable stalls because they're portable, doesn't mean they're not always up? Are they always up or do we take them up and down, up and down?

So we actually just purchased stalls during phase one of construction and we have not put them up, they have not been up yet.

Okay.

So they're brand new to us.

And then the plan moving forward, will they stay up for like a season or what?

We actually haven't made that decision. Okay. We'd work both with the Los Angeles Committee if we decided to make them semi permanent. Yes. But we have not made those decisions yet.

Okay. Good to know. Thank you.

And kind of that's the idea anyways, so that way we can move them around. So every event is different, and if they don't need them in a certain way, we don't want them to be in the way of a lot of the other events. So, again, as we start to get into that phase where we're done with construction and have more events that might be using them, we'll be able to kind of work through what those look like.

Yeah. It's all exciting. Yeah. All the new things.

So our next step. So tonight, I brought back to you your questions. Hopefully, we answered some of them. We're here to hear your feedback. If you have comments, concerns, stuff you want us to look at. In the summer, I will bring our recommendations, get your final approval, and then take them to council to get council's approval. They do have to be approved by council also. Once those steps kind of happen, then we will set a public hearing date and adoption. And then in 2027, we are hoping the new fees would go into effect.

So next meeting you would provide the proposed fee increases?

Yes. So next meet either next meeting or the June meeting. So it just kinda depends

on how

things fall.

Please take into consideration what's going on right now in the the world as far as economic times and that we we are looking at probably something very uncertain like we haven't looked at for a while. So I think if What

do you mean by that? So can you explain I what you

think raising fees right now has to be done taking a careful look at our economy. What's going on in the world is a big picture because we are part of that big picture, and it's gonna affect us. Yep. It's gonna affect the people in our community. One thing that really is outstanding in this report, the fee study, is how far under we are compared to the the benchmarks.

Right.

So I feel that gives us some room to move. Mhmm. I'm wondering, are we are we feeling pressure from the city council as far as fee increases?

Nope. So as we shared in the beginning, we have to do this market study every five years, and it's Oh, I think it's We have to do it. So we want to look at all of our fees, see where they compare. As Riley had shared, or maybe Jamie in one of the very first presentations, we do also have growing costs. Fees only bring in a very small percentage of how we pay for operating and building and maintaining parks. I think was it 5%?

Yes.

5%. So again, there's all kinds of other ways people are paying for it. So we talked about that we will look at what are our costs, what are the things that maybe we're really far underneath, and it doesn't affect the average person. We might decide not to change them at all in certain areas. Sometimes we just adjust them to make it so that way other things can fall into a range better or things like that.

There are fees that are brand new, though, that we don't have in place that have to be put into place. Otherwise, we won't be able to recoup any of our rodeo grounds costs. So that'll be up to you guys. So we'll bring to you guys a suggestion, and it will look like that. And Frank, I think you guys did an awesome job last go around where we really talked through, do we really want pool fees to go up a dollar? Or should it be less? You know what I mean? So those will be the next discussion point, and we'll definitely keep in mind. That's also why we share that market data. We're one of the lowest

Absolutely.

Income communities in that list. So we will keep that in mind, too. Our goal isn't to make it be Mesa's cost or Queen Creek's cost. It's to make it City Of Apache Junction. Right.

Well, and it has you know, when we did this five years ago, we didn't raise much. We didn't raise much at all. And it's been so it's been ten years since we really made across the board any kind of major fee increase. And you think of our our costs of providing the service in the last ten years, I don't have to tell you that's Right. So I it makes sense that we need to do something. I'm just asking that we be very careful because, things are pretty shaky right now for a lot And of I I know that we've we've done such an outstanding job for families in this community. Mhmm. I have a lot of faith that we'll continue to do that.

We're going to talk about how we also help with that here in one of the other agenda items. But point well taken, and we'll definitely take that into consideration. What else?

Any other questions, concerns, feedback?

Just comments. The thing that sticks out to me is and the reason I wanted to see those like, the examples of park Events. Example costs for events, yeah, is because you want to look at it from both sides. The city, are we benefiting and are we covering our overhead and all those things, right? But also, to an event producer, how many tickets might they have to sell in order to just break even and then beyond that, what's their profit?

Right? So that's kind of where I was coming from with those ideas of just wanting to know what's a ballpark and is it attractive to someone who's trying to produce an event to utilize us? I mean, we have amenities that we can't charge for views of the superstitions, the views around the rodeo center, things like that. And then the other thing was just we have some new amenities to consider, which is something don't know if did we have new amenities at the last fee study?

No, I don't think we had

Probably.

We had new fees. We went from only nonprofit only Nonprofit.

Yeah, we did nonprofit.

Nonresident. Only had resident rates. Actually, we held one rate. Everybody paid the same rate. So last fee study, we really focused on bringing in that non resident resident for profit rate for our facilities.

Yes.

We decided not to do it for programs and other things. But that was the biggest change that we had five years ago when we did this fee study.

Yeah, which I think is a great move because of our little county islands where people still feel they are a city. You know, they live here in AJ. They claim it, but yet they may not have an address that is literally in the city. So I think For that's

programs? Yes. But for facilities, they pay a non resident.

Yeah. But the programs are so Yeah. So I think that's, you know

And just also, remember that in one of your previous packets, we gave you the item that showed the rates that changed. So you could actually see what it was ten years ago. Whatever was in black was the old stuff. Red was what we recommended is what went into the public hearing and got changed in 2021. So you can see in that document that I had emailed out to you guys when when we changed things. So the last changes in red, the fees have been all the black fees have been the same, previous to that.

Well, and We were going through COVID too. You know, we were going through

a lot. Mean, we struggle. Were just Yeah. We were still coming out of COVID learning all Mhmm. All of that. So

Yeah. And then please don't forget that our nonprofit youth serving agencies, part of the code, says that they have a different rate as long as they follow certain criteria, which is, they have to have a certain percentage of residents. They have to be an all volunteer board. They have to be a five zero one c three. I don't know if there's other things. No cuts, I think. Something like that.

You have to let everybody play. Right. You can't cut.

And so they only pay 25%

Okay.

Of the nonprofit fee. So if a fee is $10, they pay $2.50. So just kind of, again, keep those kinds of things in mind.

Okay.

Good. We try to find ways to make it very affordable for our youth.

Well, thanks for bringing us all this information. Lots of good things in there.

Any other questions, comments, feedback?

I had a quick comment to you. I think, you know, everybody brings up a really good point on, you know, the state of the economy and, you know, our baseline versus, like, other cities. I think there's definitely, you know, an area of opportunity for us to, you know, make up some ground, I think, where we sit even though we have a smaller population, lower median income, etcetera. And then the other thing I'm looking at is to once we make these for a future meeting, once we make these changes into effect, know, we'd love to see, like, a plan to increase participation with sports, with events, you know, membership at MGC. Like, we'd love to see a plan of, like, how we increase numbers in in all those areas.

Yeah. That would be a good thing. Jamie can certainly share in one of our future meetings. We've had done a lot of, new stuff that JJ has and his team have come up with for increasing memberships. And I think maybe in a end of fiscal year kind of thing, Jamie could share the change and some of those things that that might be a result of the things we've already done. And if there's other suggestions for the future, you know, we'd love for you to weigh in.

A couple of points is also remember our programming has a range. So we are able to be able to adjust a little bit with those ranges. So if we really wanted to stay to the market with offering a karate class or be competitive to bring in that contract instructor. So we do have a little bit that's not so set. So whereas we might have been paying $20 a student, we do have the liberty to increase that to $25 if that's what we needed to do.

And then I will speak to kind of the growing of the programs. There are some that we definitely want to and need to, but you will see, like Easter, you will not see that heavily advertised simply because take we can't really increase, you know, double fold or even we're we're managing what we have, and we're very proud of that. So some things, if you're just like, wow, that's really great, but I don't see it out there a whole lot, there might be a reason for that, and I'm happy to and sometimes they get missed. Sometimes I'm Yeah. At my staff saying, this is a really great program.

Where was the advertising on it? Dino Day is another one. You don't see it heavily advertised because that parks. It's really a good event at 2,000 people. It would not be a great event at 3,000 people. So just kind of keep those little things in mind.

Our community knows to expect certain things now. And so they're the ones really showing up for those things. Things. But what was I going to ask? I don't remember.

Lost That's it.

Too bad. Bad so sad.

The window of questions has ended.

A parent loved one that many questions when the computer went black. It was a sign. So there we go.

We've moved on from just

Anything else?

I think that's it. Thank you very much. Riley, I appreciate that great work. Okay. Next, we have some new business, a presentation and discussion on the Parks and Recreation Scholarship Program by Jamie Sullivan.

So we'll there is not a whole lot to review, but I do want you guys to be aware of how the scholarship program works and how we operate it. So our scholarship funds are largely made up of funds contributed from Lost Dutchman Marathon. There might be some years where we can say that it is solely Lost Dutchman Marathon funding. However, we have had other agencies donate. We've had businesses donate, and we've had individuals donate.

Sometimes it's like, I have 25 extra dollars this month, and I would like it to give to your scholarship program. Our programs that qualify for the scholarship program, we will scholarship 50% of youth programs that have a fee over $15. One of the reasons for that is when we were scholarshiping for programs that were $5, $8, we had a very high no show attendance. And so we kind of decided this was a good threshold for us. We will 100% scholarship swim lessons.

The pool and memberships are discounted at a 100% for youth. And we do have some, events and programs that the fees are waived on the back. Like, it's free because of the donation of Lost Dutchman Marathon. So Mud Run, youth participants can participate in that program for free that event for free. In order to qualify, there is a form that you need to fill out because everything is done by a form.

But, anybody 17 years of age or younger, they need to reside in the Apache Junction School District. So in the in the zoning for that includes Gold Canyon. They do need to have a financial need, and proof of that is any of those listed, they can bring in and attach that to their form. The application process is pretty simple. They fill out the form.

They bring it in. We can take those requests any time during the year, but they are good through December 31, and they are good for one year. After that, the applicant has to reapply. Then we award the funds. So depending on who is working, almost any supervisor can review the the form and see that they meet the need, and we can approve it right then and there. And on the

back

end, their red their family account is then funded to be able to take from those funds to be able to register. We are getting these funds back into our budget. This is not the city just waiving fees or comping fees. It is based on the gracious donations of the Lost Dutchman Marathon to be able to fully fund it revenue wise for us. If there isn't a supervisor that can make that decision, they might have to wait twenty four business twenty four hours business hours.

If they come in on a Saturday, they might not know until Monday that they do qualify. And that that's really the gist of the program. We do try to get the word out. We've done social media posts. We have a really good relationship with our customers who come in.

It can be very awkward and insensitive to say to somebody, oh, do you need scholarship? We have this. So you kind of have to find a way if somebody seems to be like, oh, that's really expensive, or we can't afford. So we try to be very just diligent of how we approach that. But we used almost about $10,000 in funds last year between about $6,500 in programming, and then the remainder of that was used towards special events and waiving some of those back end fees.

Have we ever had a shortfall where we've had a say to people we can't afford?

No. Not as long as I can remember

Thank you.

Or have been in my position or the position before that or the position before that.

Just a couple of years.

Yeah. Now that's a different fund. So like if you don't use it, you don't lose it. Like it's separate.

So yes, it is a completely scholarship fund. And if we so I will let me go back to the youth membership at the Multigen Center. So, it's a monthly membership, and the youth can be scholarship at a 100%, but they do have to use that membership eight times within that, month to be able to renew Because we do wanna make sure that the funds are actually being used because once they're distributed, we don't get them back simply because they didn't use it. If we had somebody who continually registered for programs and then were no shows, then we would be having conversations of you're in jeopardy of losing these funds because once you've used it, then they're no longer available to somebody else. We don't see that very often.

Most of the times, it's with the youth memberships at the multi gen center, and it's because because the kids get overactive or they're busy or they go on vacation. Again, we work with these families. We have mulligans. We get them back on track because we want them in the center.

Yeah. Does it cover things like the spring break and fall break?

It covers anything that is payable to the city of Apache Junction, which is everything we your green well, they wouldn't the golf wouldn't qualify because it's for it's not for adults. But yes. So again, it's that $15 threshold. So if you're registering for an $8 art class, you're going to pay the full $8 But if you're registering your kids for summer camp and it's $75 we're going to scholarship 50% of that. Nice.

And one more question. Have we ever done, like, considered or done information, like a small flyer for the school?

We have not done one specifically that we have on hand all the time. We might have one seasonally. We've put it in the summer brochure. That seems to be when it's utilized the most. That is our highest month is April and May when people are registering for all of those summer programs. But it wouldn't be a bad idea to be able to have something that we can say, here's some information on our scholarship program if you need it or if someone else may need it.

Yeah. I just think it's helpful to have it in print somewhere. So does it get put in the Citizen or no?

It does. It has. Yeah.

Okay.

The new one just came out today. I should have brought some. I can't believe I forgot.

So Jamie also just now is working with Larry to get it on the website as well. That, again, we think that fewer people probably go to the website. But having it in multiple places we do several social media posts whenever it's seasonal, and that seems to get the word out as well. But great ideas.

Just one more thing. If someone say you were talking about how someone's not if they don't utilize it, which is a small number of people, is that a month to month or year to year decision you're making?

No. So once they apply, funds are available. Can be scholarshipped for the entire year. We're not going to come back. Now, again, if somebody signed up for three sessions of swim lessons and didn't show up for their first session, we're giving them a call saying, hey. You registered for swim lessons, but you weren't you didn't attend. You're registered also for the second session. And I will tell you the number one thing is, oh my gosh. We totally forgot. So then we're going to give them grace.

But if they didn't attend to that second session, then that next phone call is is you're in jeopardy of losing your scholarship because you've already failed to attend two of your classes. And then I can't tell you that I've done it in I mean, maybe a little bit on the youth memberships where we are just like this you guys seem to be busy. Why don't you come back in six more months, and we'll give it another try? But in seven years as or eight as a superintendent, I've never made that phone call and said, we're taking your you you can't use your scholarship funds any longer.

Good to know.

Any other questions pertaining to the

scholarship Thank you. Nice to be updated on that.

Yeah.

You very much. Do we have a call to public? That's a no. All right. Okay. Moving on. With the selection of meeting dates, times, location, and purpose, so I'll ask for a motion for that.

I move that the Parks and Recreation Commission hold a regular meeting on 05/06/2026 at 6PM, and the city council chambers located at 300 East Superstition Boulevard.

I do apologize. I skipped the call for future agenda items. Do we backtrack?

Sure.

Okay. So I'm going to ask the commissioners if they have anything to suggest or recommend being added to the next agenda. No discussion on the topics. Suggestions are just taking place at this time. So if you want to follow-up some additional information. Anyone have anything? Thank you very

much. Okay.

So now, does Dia have to repeat that?

Like Or Did she finish?

She did. I could say that again.

You could just ask if there's a motion.

Okay. May I have a second? Oh, no. Ask for a motion first.

She's giving it. She gave it? Yes. I gave the motion, and I still stand with my motion. Perfect.

And then I'll ask for a second.

I'll second it. And

then I'll ask for

a roll call, please. Judy

Borey. Jules McGuiddis. Manny Vega.

Yes.

Frank Schoenbeck.

Yes.

Dale Kine. Yes. Lamont Klepper.

Yes.

Felicia Madrid.

Yes.

And Heather Moeller? Yes. And that motion passes. All right. Thank you so much. Okay. It looks like the time is now 07:19, and this meeting is adjourned.