City Council - Regular Meeting

community facility district number one special meeting of August 4th 2026 the order and ask everyone to put their cell phones on silent roll call please chairperson Wilson here vice chairperson Schroeder board member cross board member Heck here board member Johnson here board member Nesser present board member seller here you have a quorum your honor thank you Consideration and approval of minutes of the special meeting of July 21st, 2026. Do I have a motion?

Your Honor? Yes. I move that the minutes of the special meeting of July 21st, 2026 be approved.

Second. Moved and seconded. Roll call.

Board Member Saller? Yes. Vice Chairperson Schroeder? Yes. Board Member Nesser? Yes. Board Member Cross? Yes. Board Member Heck? Yes. Board Member Johnson?

Yes.

Chairperson Wilson?

Yes.

Motion passes unanimously.

Public hearing. Public hearing on the final assessment of Superstition Vistas Community Facility District Number 1, Assessment Area Number 8. Zach.

Chairman, board, good evening. Zach Sakas, special counsel to the district. With the board's permission, I'll go through the three agenda items at one time, if that's OK. OK. So when we last chatted on July 21, well, I guess I heard that was the best meeting ever because I didn't present at that one. So you're stuck with me again tonight. It was a lot faster. Exactly. I'm already making it go longer. It's nice to see you all again. At the July 21st meeting, that was considering the feasibility report. Again, this is 139 lots, $5,000 per lot, so $695,000. The project has been complete in the time since that meeting. The assessment documentation has been completed and recorded. So any interested purchaser of one of these lots, when a title report is pulled on their individual lot, it will disclose that the CFD has an assessment on that lot. The public hearing component, again, all the lots are owned solely by D.R. Horton at this point, is to, if there was any sort of objection to the project being complete or to the nature of putting the assessment on any individual lot, again, the district engineer has confirmed that the project's complete and that each lot will benefit from the project. And I suspect that D.R. Horton will not object to moving things along since they requested the assessment of the lots. Item 3 on your agenda, or D3, is the confirming everything that we just chatted about, that the assessments are complete, the assessment process is complete, and then it provides permission to go forth and begin collecting the assessment installment payments, which are in turn pledged to repayment of the bonds, which is item D4. That resolution authorizes the issuance and sale of assessment area number eight, special assessment bonds. It includes the not to exceed amount of $695,000, which again tracks with the $5,000 per lot times 139 lots, provides the usual mechanics for if an investor wants to trade in their bond or if they're prepaid early, and likewise provides the typical provisions where if a homeowner in the future wants to prepay their assessment, they can choose to do so. And as always, a friendly reminder, you can prepay the assessments. The property taxes that are separately levied by the CFD unrelated to this transaction, you're unable to prepay those as a property owner out there. But these assessments, if somebody wants to, maybe they're refinancing their mortgage and they roll it into the refi, they can prepay the assessment at that time if they so choose. Happy to answer any questions about the three items.

otherwise I'm available for any questions see any thank you excuse me well now open the public hearing if anyone would like to speak on these items and I don't see any movement at all do we have any additional discussion from the board I will now close the public hearing Presentation for resolution number SVCFD 12026-010. Do we have any discussion from the board on his presentation? Do I have a motion?

Mr. Chair? Yes. I move that resolution number SBCFD1-2026-010, a resolution of the District Board of Superstition Vistas Community Facilities District, number one, approving the final assessment for assessment area number eight, determining that the work has been completed in accordance with the approved plans and specifications, and ordering the collection of the assessment in assessment area number eight be approved.

Second.

Moved and seconded. Roll call.

Board Member Nusser? Yes. Board Member Johnson? Yes. Board Member Cross? Yes. Board Member Heck? Yes. Board Member Soller? Yes. Vice Chairperson Schroeder? Yes. And Chairperson Wilson? Yes. Motion passes unanimously.

Thank you. Consideration of Resolution Number SVCFD1-2026-011. Any discussion again from the Board? Do I have a motion?

Mr. Chair? Yes. I move the resolution number SVC FD1-2026-011, a resolution of the District Board of Superstition Vistas Community Facilities, District Number 1, authorizing the issuance of the District's Assessment Area Number 8, Special Assessment Bonds, Series 2026, approving the form and authorizing the execution and delivery of related documents, awarding the bonds to a purchaser, appointing a registrar, transfer agent and paying agent for the bonds, and authorizing the taking of other actions securing the payment of and relating to the bonds be approved.

Second. Moved and seconded. Roll call.

Board Member Cross?

Yes.

Board Member Nusser? Yes. Board Member Soller? Yes. Board Member Johnson?

Yes.

Vice Chairperson Schroeder? Yes. Board Member Heck? Yes. Chairperson Wilson? Yes. Motion passes unanimously.

All right. District Manager? No report, Your Honor. District Director's report? And District Treasurer's report? No report. Okay. I will now adjourn this meeting. Thank you.

to put their cell phones on silent.

The invocation will be led by Councilman Heck and the Pledge of Allegiance by Councilman Solard.

Heavenly Father, we thank you for the privilege and freedom we have of being able to gather together this evening to discuss city business. We ask that you give the staff and council wisdom and clarity in their decision making. Keep us mindful that we serve the residents of this city. We ask you to watch over the men and women who serve in our military the world over. Keep them safe in these very uncertain and troubling times. We ask also for your blessing on our first responders, including our police and fire departments, along with our EMS personnel and our park rangers. Please keep them safe in their duties to protect and care for the residents of this city. And thank you for the honor and privilege we do have to serve the residents here in this great city. These things we ask in your name. Amen.

Roll call.

Mayor Wilson? Here. Vice Mayor Schroeder? Present. Council Member Cross?

Here.

Council Member Heck?

Here.

Council Member Johnson?

Here.

Council Member Nesser? Present. And Council Member Soller?

Here.

You have a quorum, Your Honor.

Thank you. Consent agenda. As a reminder, all items under consent agenda will be approved through one motion. If a council member wishes to remove an item for further discussion... The request will be made prior to approving the consent agenda and will be moved to new business. Do I have a motion for the consent agenda?

Yes. I move that the consent agenda be accepted as presented.

Second.

Moved and seconded.

Roll call.

Council Member Soller.

Yes.

Vice Mayor Schroeder.

Yes.

Council Member Nusser? Yes. Council Member Cross? Yes. Council Member Heck? Yes. Council Member Johnson? Yes. And Mayor Wilson?

Yes.

Motion passes unanimously.

Okay. Intergovernment updates from regional intergovernment meetings from the council? Anyone? None on this.

What you're seeing on the board right there is the 9-11 25th anniversary memorial event that we'll be holding on Friday, September 11th at 8 o'clock at the Veterans Memorial Gazebo. We really want to get as many of our residents to come out and really appreciate those who gave their lives for this country during 9-11, those who passed, the first responders, And we're doing it at 8 o'clock, number one, because it's cooler, number two, because there is an absolutely wonderful event that's at Avalon schools every year with the students. So we hope that we can get as many people as possible to come out and really memorialize this day correctly.

Okay. Anyone else? All right, we attended a, I'll say, Ribbon cutting for the ALA school system down in... Radiance? Radiance, yeah, thank you. Couldn't think of the name of it. And they really put something on, and it was unique in the aspect on it. And of course, this past week is when they started their first schooling in this new building. It's a fantastic building, buildings. many buildings. And they also presented me with a football helmet, which I'm not going to wear. But it was unique in the aspect on it. It was very, I'll say, well done. And of course, there's the picture of us all getting ready to cut the ribbon.

OK. City Manager's report. Thank you, Your Honor. Bryant Powell, City Manager. August is a great season, a great time to start some really neat things. Before we jump into that, I just wanted to share that the boards and commissions invite are out in the public. It's that time for the next six weeks as we share, all of us, the opportunity for folks to get our residents, our citizens involved in local government. This is a time to apply for those boards and commissions. We go through those in mid-September, the city clerk staff does, and then we get those ready for interviews and review by the city council come October. Really excited also that this is the start of a new school year, and it's also the start, not the start, but kind of the beginning of another YAC Youth Advisory Council year. And they're getting super excited to come to the league conference. We're getting that going and wanted to make sure you guys were aware of that. And then Matt, if you can turn that next slide there. Here we have, since 1986, our three library directors, Pam Louie in the middle, Spencer Payden on the right, and Pam Harrison, our current library director. Super proud of everything that they do and their services 40 years now. And this was a nice celebration day. And to be able to have our three directors together is really neat. And then lastly, for the community, something that doesn't happen very often, but the Salt River Project SRP will be drawing down Canyon Lake for a period of time. It takes, starting in September, here mid-September, four weeks to lower the water by 54 feet, and then eight weeks to complete the inspection and the maintenance work, and then another four weeks to fill it back up. So we just wanted to make sure everybody knows about that, that it's on purpose, and that it'll be happening here pretty soon. Your Honor, that concludes my report.

Thank you. Excuse me. New business. Consideration approval of resolution number 26-37. Evie.

Thank you, Your Honor. This evening before you is resolution number 2637. This is to canvas the election from the primary election held on July 21st, 2026. As required by law, the city council must canvas the votes and adopt the election results no later than 20 days post-election. Just as a reminder, for the 2024 primary election, legislative changes caused the date to be changed, but that was a temporary fix, and that had to do with the time required for if there was a recount issue. This year, effective February 6th, 2026, Governor Hobbs signed House Bill 2022, which permanently moves Arizona's statewide primary election from the first Tuesday in August to the second to the last Tuesday in July, permanently. This was moved from August 4th to July 21st. With the resolution is exhibit A, which you all have in front of you. This includes all the required reports according to statute. And I just want to mention that the city attorney has signed the actual resolution that I have here. That's a copy for you up there. So his signature is not on that, but it will be on the archived version. Just to share a couple of quick comparisons, as has been done in the past, for the 2024 primary election, we had a total of 6,871 ballots cast. We had a total of 27,279 voters with a 25.1% turnout. For this election, we had 6,290 ballots cast. with an increase of 2,511 registered voters, making the total at 29,790 with a 21% voter turnout. So tonight I'm requesting council approve resolution number 26-37, accepting the results so we can officially canvas the primary election held on July 21st, 2026.

Okay, any discussion on this? Okay, do I have a motion for resolution number 2026-37? Mr. Mayor? Yes.

I move that resolution number 26-37, a resolution of the Mayor and City Council of the City of Apache Junction, Pinell, and Maricopa Counties, Arizona, declaring and adopting the results of the primary election held on July 21st, 2026, be approved.

Moved and seconded roll call Councilmember Nesser.

Yes. Councilmember Johnson. Yes. Councilmember Cross. Yes. Councilmember Heck. Yes. Councilmember Saller. Yes. Vice Mayor Schroeder.

Yes.

Mayor Wilson.

Yes. Motion passes unanimously Thank you Presentation discussion agreements with Arlington Watkins architects LLC

Good evening, Mayor Wilson, Vice Mayor Schroeder, and members of Council. Trina Harrison, Capital Improvement Plan Program Manager. Thank you for the opportunity to present the design contract to you tonight regarding the City Services Expansion Project. I will provide the background, project description, scope, next steps to ensure Council has the information you need to make an informed decision as we move forward. So last year, a solicitation was released that included master plan and design services. In that solicitation, it required two separate contracts, one for master plan, one for design. So the contract came to council last September and was approved and awarded to Arrington Watkins. And in June of 2026 this year, we approved the master plan with the next steps being moving into the design phase. So tonight I am here to present the design contract to you. The project is a multi-phased, multi-year project that we're calling City Services Expansion. So the site is located south of the US 60 along Ironwood and Horton Drive. The site is 22 acres. This 22 acres was conveyed to the city free of charge for use of city facilities. We estimate that the value of this property is $7 million. The conveyance of this property significantly reduces the city's cost in developing this property. So what will we be designing? So during our programming phase and the master plan, we are planning a 25 to 27,000 square foot police substation that will include patrol operations. They will have secure parking, unsecure parking. Communications will also be moved down there. fleet support, a large multi-purpose community room along with community interface spaces along with many other smaller spaces in the design. The library is programmed at 15,000 square feet. It has a reduced physical collection compared to the main branch up here. It will also have flexible multipurpose rooms, a regionally themed children's area, a teen area, and an adult area. The park is anticipated to have walking paths, baseball fields, multipurpose fields, basketball and volleyball courts, a themed children's, excuse me, playground equipment and a fishing lake restrooms and ramadas in addition to the park the parks staff will have a parks maintenance yard that will include a roughly 5 000 square foot building for offices and it will also have a maintenance yard for their equipment and their materials So Errington-Watkins will be designing the entire 22 acres. This includes all the buildings, And it includes the park, the lake, parking, infrastructure, all the civil. And one firm coming in, one team, and doing the entire project will give this site a more cohesive look and feel. So the contract does go multi-years. It goes all the way from design through construction and all the way to the warranty walk. The design alone is expected to take approximately 12 months. It is going to go through 30%, 60%, 90%, and 100% designs. And as we move through design, they will be working with the city staff and the selected contractor to ensure that their designs stay within our budget. They will also be responsible for reviewing any requests for information that come in and any substitution requests from the architectural firm or the contractor. They will ensure that their site and the buildings are built per the designs that they're doing during the construction administration phase of their contract. And at the end, when we do the warranty walk, they will come out and assist the stakeholder team to make sure that there's no corrective actions needed, and if there is, that we address those. So, estimated budget. I'm gonna go over contracts we've already approved, where we're at now, and what you have coming. So contracts approved already were the master plan and the programming. That was $670,446. That contract was closed out June of 2026. The PMCM master plan and programming contract $49,025 was also closed out in June of 2026. In April of 2026, we did a PMCM design and construction contract that was approved from council for $2,664,301. And I do want to make note that there's a clerical error on the PowerPoint that you received last week. It shows April of 2025. So I apologize for that. It is April 2026. So it was just this last April that that contract was approved. So in our current budget for 26-27, we do have an approved soft cost also allocated to the project for $300,000. That soft cost includes any utility designs that come up that we have to do, any extra geotechnical work that needs to be done that's outside of Arrington-Watkins contract. It also includes outreach that will need to be done and also sports field elements to support the park that are specialized vendor items that come up that need to be done. Those are also held outside of their contract. I do have on there the pre-app and the design fees I found out after the fact that those will be done in-house, so there will not be a fee associated with those two elements.

Development services will do that in-house.

So where we're at right now is the design and construction administration contract. for $5,805,795. That is the step where we're at right now. So what's coming is right now, we're out for solicitation right now for the contractor. So that contract will also be in two separate, that solicitation is two separate contracts. So you have the pre-construction for the construction manager at risk, and then you have the construction contract. So they're both separate. So the first part is the contractor gets selected, they come on board, They're with us during the design. They attend all the meetings. They're doing their estimating throughout the entire project. So we know exactly where we stand as we go through the entire phase of design. We anticipate bringing them on board and coming to council in fall of this year, 2026, in either October or November. After we go through, and that budget is already also included in this year's budget that you have already approved for 26-27, so I do want to note that. Once we go through design and we know exactly what we're going to build, we will negotiate a contract and then negotiate a fee with the selected contractor, same contractor. I will come back and present that contract, and it will be in fall of 2027. And then additional costs that are associated to the project are more soft costs. Those are all the costs that are related to the project that you have to have that are not part of the design contract and they're not part of the construction contract. and that's your furniture, your moving cost, your IT equipment, specialized equipment, the police department, exercise equipment, the 911 dispatch consoles, all the things that we need to do our jobs to get in there, all that's held outside of the hard cost from the contractor. So that fee is estimated. It's just projected. And once we go through design, we'll have a better idea of what is needed and what those costs will be. So right now, we're looking at a total estimated project budget of $67,900,000. And $7,560, that's on the city side. The park and the fishing lake are being built by the developer. We've estimated currently that that cost is $11 million. The conveyed land that was also provided to us by the contractor is $7 million. So already we're $18 million ahead that we're not having to pay. So in all, by the time we're done, the total estimated project value of this project is $86 million. So for next steps, staff recommends approval of the contract to Arrington-Watkins in the amount of $5,805,795. The contract will be on the consent agenda for September 1st, 2026, unless otherwise directed by council. And again, next steps would be coming back with the pre-construction contract this fall, followed by the construction contract the next fall, 2027. So with me tonight are Matt Gorman with Arrington Watkins Architecture and Sue Billings with EDS Management, who is our PMCM. And then I also have staff here. If you have any questions, we would like to answer them for you.

You want to have any questions?

I have a question. Yes. So you referred to the $18 million that we're basically getting comped back as far as total cost. That doesn't even include the land that we're getting for this, correct?

Yeah, the $7 million is the land. Any other? So those are costs you have to have that we luckily don't have.

OK, so there's no motion at this time. Thank you. Presentation discussed and possible consideration of resolution number 26-38. Mike.

Good evening, Mayor and Council. I'd like to present on all three of the next agenda items, agenda item number 11, 12, and 13. They're kind of all tied together as we get to the presentation here. I think you guys will understand that. And then we'll have to have an individual vote on how you guys would like to proceed with those at the end of the presentation. A little background here. We're looking at an abandonment of right-of-way in this downtown area. As you can see here on the map, it's located in the Golden Triangle here where we have some property. A little bit of past history on this location. This was approved in 1965 as a plat through Pinal County before the city was incorporated. As part of this plat, they approved an alley right away behind several businesses here that are behind Old West Highway and off Idaho Road. As you can see, they were even named differently at that point in time. A little bit more up-to-date map so you can see where we're at with an aerial. Overall here, here we have Idaho Road Apache Trail. We have some dentist's office here. We have some more dentist's office here at this location along Idaho Road. And then I saw Filiberto's here on the corner. This is the alleyway we're talking about tonight. And I'll show you on some more maps here as we move forward. Any questions so far on what area we're considering here?

Nope.

So general item number 11 talks about the first parcel here. It's located on two parcels, 101-23-004F and 101-23-004G. No longer necessary for public use. There's de minimis public value. Again, this was approved in 1965. Those parking lots really took over this right-of-way. The city has never utilized it as public right-of-way. to even maintain, to manage anything, to do anything behind there for the general public. This has really been used as a private drive for the last 60 years. The first location we're looking to abandon here is this L-shaped area and abandoned to the adjacent property owners here. And would it add additional property to these locations? Currently, there's a dumpster on the back corner of this property. AND THEY'RE UTILIZING IT FOR STORAGE AS PART OF THEIR BUSINESS. THEY OPERATE HERE ADJACENT TO IT. AGAIN, THIS AREA WOULD BE LOCATED HERE ADJACENT TO THESE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS RIGHT HERE, AND THESE WOULD BE WHO WOULD RECEIVE THIS PROPERTY IN THE ABANDONMENT PROCESS FROM THE CITY. AGENDA NUMBER 12, WE'RE WORKING WITH THREE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THIS LOCATION HERE. AGAIN, THIS IS NO LONGER NECESSARY FOR PUBLIC USE. This property owner has utilized this area for parking and backing into it for the last 60 years since they built their dentist's office and those offices that have been there. Again, the public has had no beneficial use to this property other than the property owner has been utilizing it themselves. Again, here's the aerial. As you can see, there's parking here in the back of this dentist's office that they're currently using as a private drive to get back out to Idaho Road. Again, the city's no longer utilizing this right away. We have never maintained the roadway in this case either. The last one is a small parcel looking to provide it back. It's a remnant piece of these adjacent property owners here. Abandon it back to a larger parcel adjacent to this property here. This will be part of this little triangular piece that's missing currently in this location.

Can you go back two slides?

Yes, sir. What's that?

Go back two slides. One more. One more. Sorry. Go forward. There was a little thing it said. One more. Up in the corner here, it said something about... Let's back up, I think, where you're going here. One of the drawings.

Yep. Let's go here.

Right there. What is that exception? What is that?

So this exception here, we're looking at a future junction road for... The development of the downtown area. We have several different maps as a downtown master plan. Instead of extinguishing or abandoning this back to the property owner adjacent to it, the city's going to keep that as right of way for the future so that if we have to install a junction road, we're not going back to the property owner and saying, hey, we need this right of way back. We'll be working with this property owner. There's also a little corner here that we'll be looking for a site triangle to get out of this property, but we'll be working with them as part of this abandonment so that the city could receive that parcel from them as part of that. and then we have potential for the future so we're not forgetting about the whole downtown master plan that we have.

So that's all we would need for Junction Street is that little section?

There's more. The city owns a portion of it, and the developer to the west owns another portion of it.

Your Honor.

Yes.

So Mike, for clarification for audience and whatnot, once this is abandoned, they'll still be able to, that property will actually become theirs and they'll be able to, utilize it for getting to the back of their shops 100% of the time.

That's correct. That's why we want to abandon it. These property owners have been utilizing it for years. This gives them the same access they have today. They will take over those taxes. They will have to pay property tax on this additional land that they receive from the city. So they will be getting the beneficiary use but also paying for their beneficiary use of it also. Okay. Thank you.

Your Honor. Your Honor. Yes. My question is, All of this that I'm looking at is right at the edge of the land that the city purchased. Is that correct?

The north end is adjacent to some of the city.

Right. And we haven't decided what all we're going to develop there. So my question is, considering the fact that everybody's been using it now and there hasn't been any issue with it, is there a really good reason to extinguish them now Before we have figured out what we're gonna put there because once we give it away it's gone forever and Since we don't know for sure what we're going to do. I'm my question is why would we do it now? Before we as as the city figure out what we are going to put there.

I Agree, we're not sure when the city would ever develop that property over the city will or full sell it off to a new development And we're not sure what's going to happen in this. This is just a remnant parcel the city's never used. So to get it out of the city's name and provide it to the property owners that you have utilized this in the past, that's what we're looking to do this time. Is there a rush to abandon this? That's really up for the council to decide if we really want to get rid of it today or if they want to get rid of it in the future.

Is there anything detrimental to the city holding onto it until we make those decisions? Wouldn't be detrimental to the city other property owners in the surrounding area are looking to develop in this area So it may be possibly detrimental to their development I'm just wondering whether we should wait until we have a better idea of what we're gonna do since Obviously, we wouldn't be interfering by just sitting on it Because everybody's still gonna do what they're doing right now, which is utilizing it Just a thought

If somebody falls on that property right now, who's liable? The city would be liable currently. If transient ends up tripping and falling during a happy day, we're going to get hit hard with it.

Your Honor. Yes. I agree with. Councilman Johnson, there's no reason to extinguish this right now. I keep referring back to a Agenda item we had just recently just this year over on star and the trail there was an apartment complex for approval and It has a really Funky way of getting in and out of it now that could have been avoided if that right away wasn't extinguished and years ago that road could have been punched through by the developer and it would have been a more flowing cohesive project um considering this is in our downtown area i don't feel like i mean we've invested millions of dollars in this property to try to create a walkable commerce um i don't think it's wise to start extinguishing areas of it at this point when we don't even have a clear vision of what we're even going to do down there i think we have have plenty of time to figure this out it's been there uh to councilman cross's point about if anybody were to trip and fall i mean that's been there since the city's been incorporated you know so we i don't feel like we should use that as a a reason to move forward with it but uh i really feel like based on where it's located it's located in an area where we've taken a huge investment in and i don't think we should be in any hurry to extinguish it because we are trying to create something down there and getting rid of land that could be a potential use in the future. We should really think about it and put the brakes on it a little bit. Whether we continue this or whether we vote it down, however it goes throughout the council, but I feel like this is something that could be premature for what we're trying, what our vision is for the downtown. Obviously, that exception point where the road comes through, these are all things that are going to come. These are all things that's going to happen in the future. I just don't feel like we should be in any rush to start extinguishing right-of-ways in our downtown core in the area where we've invested so much money.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, so Mike, um, with each of these rights of way, um, I believe you mentioned that while the city does own each of them there, the city hasn't done much to really maintain them as correct.

That is correct.

Okay. So it's not something that we're having to dedicate a lot of time and resource to, to maintain.

That is correct. I actually drove by there today, make sure that we've done no improvements on there. If you look at both of the adjacent parking lot and this right away, they are one in the same installed many, many years ago.

Okay, all right, so I would kind of agree with councilmember Johnson and vice mayor Schroeder it's like Maybe you don't have to jump into this thing too quickly Thank you.

Yes is that Any of that right away big enough for a two-lane road No, it's more one way one way only I

It's going to be able, I believe it's going to be 27 feet in total in the end, so you could probably drive both ways, but it's more for limited traffic access. It's not going to be a 25-mile-an-hour. It's utilized more for a parking lot for private use more than public use at that point in time.

Where is the property, I'm going to say where the city is coming in, that we've purchased the land? Can you kind of point to where it is? Let me back up a little bit.

There's a portion of it there, but this is probably your best location here. The city property is located in this area here, slightly just to the north of both of these abandonments, or all three of these abandonments here. And it kind of diagonals across, has a swooping effect through here. The city master plan shows a future roadway for junction along that right-of-way that swoops along the edge of the property, or there's another one that kind of cuts through the city's property they currently own.

That's a different little leg for the, for this, uh, very minimal as far as affecting this city in the aspect on it. Cause it is the city's just on the very Northern edge of that. Correct. Correct.

If you guys, if you like, I could bring some back conditionals, some maps so you guys can see what we're looking for in that downtown area of what the planned proposals are. And I can work with development services as to show you guys kind of what the plan was in the master plan for downtown area too. So your honor.

Yes.

So in the past, we've had negotiations to purchase that six acres that run along. Now, that's not completely off the table, correct? I mean, there is still room for negotiation there. And at that point, if that negotiation should come through, then that right away does come into play as far as city property significantly. That's a possibility, Vice Mayor. Yes. So we want to prepare for the future. And I'm not saying it's a bad idea to extinguish it. We're not using it. It's People are, the dentist's office uses it for their own private drive. I'm just merely pointing out the fact that when we have a campaign in front of us as large as we have, is it in the best interest of the city to start extinguishing roadways basically in the middle of this campaign where it lies? That's all I'm trying to say.

I understand. Any other questions on this? So it's possible consideration You can approve, you can deny, or you can sustain and move on or postpone it to a future date if you guys don't want to vote tonight. Pollock Works is recommending approval of the abandonment, but it's truly up to the council on how they'd like to decide on that.