Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

the city of Anderson's planning commission. Uh we will get started with our approval of minutes from our February 3rd meeting. Uh if we will look them over. Um they were not given in the emailed packet, but we got them uh the hard copies today. Did anybody see anything that needed to be changed or amended? Hearing none. Would someone like to make a me motion for approval? I move we approve the minutes. Motion to approve. We get a second. Second for carry. Uh all in favor say I. I. Any opposed?

All right. So we will move on. Uh the only agenda to the agenda is myself. I I I'm going to recruit recuse myself from any voting tonight. I'm just going to basically be here as a facilitator uh with things that are going on in this the city today with a vote. Um so I will uh recuse myself because I will be uh if if things go well for me uh I will be uh seeing these again next Monday. So uh we will move along to the new business ANX 264.

Thank you Mr. Chairman. Um so the site is um in dark red outlined in dark red. I understand it's a little hard to see it here because of the red uh zone, but uh the site is right here. It's gray because it's in the county. Um around it is red uh which is general commercial and it backs up to this RM18. Yeah. Which is a multif family residential. Does it? And I'm sorry, this is um Clemson Boulevard here. You can see Martin Luther King Boulevard here and the East West Parkway here. Everybody know where we are? Yes.

Um, the applicant seeks to annex the 4acre parcel with the zoning designation of GC Commercial. This parcel has historically been in use as an automobile dealership. It is a donut hole that is completely surrounded by city limits. After annexation, the proposal is to redevelop the site for commercial use um that comply with the GC zoning district. So, I would remind you when you're annexing into the city, you request a zoning at that time and there they are requesting the GC zoning. Um, it is appropriate or staff thinks it is appropriate because it is completely well, let's approach it this way. Everything that accesses onto Clemson Boulevard um around it has a general commercial zoning. So attached um we'll be looking and I'll show you a general concept of the plan that is proposed. I would remind you here and I'm going to remind you every at every uh review this tonight that that is just a concept. There is nothing in your all's approval that will guarantee that anything will be developed that way. What you are approving is the zoning and the the list of uses that are allowed in that zoning district and we'll look at those as well. When annexed, the city official and the building plan uh building plans department will building plans will be submitted and reviewed by staff to ensure compliance with all requirements. Staff is recommending approval of this application. So, we're going to start off looking at the uh clips from the existing zoning um ordinance. So they are there is no under there is no existing because it's in the county but this is what they're proposing general commercial um and

these this is a list of all the uses allowed what I would call by right in um general commercial can see here there's goes on for conditional uses so these are uses that are allowed if you meet the list listed conditions So, this is the proposed development um um that has been submitted. Again, this is conceptual. Clemson Boulevard is out here. Martin Luther King is off to the bottom of your screen with the East West Parkway off to the north. Um Ashley Furniture sits right in here. So, they're going to be lining up. The proposal is to line up this intersection with this road right here, which makes a nice intersection uh to possible restaurants or other commercial development with maybe something in the back. Again, this is just conceptual and nothing that you approve restricts them to this. What you will are approving is this list of uses on this site. And again, staff is recommending approval because that site is generally surrounded by general commercial. Are there any any questions of staff? And I will say the applicant is present tonight if there are any questions of them.

Is there any questions for staff? I was going to say have there been any calls? Not on this one. No sir. The current uses car car lot. Does that comply with GC? It does. Yes, sir.

Any other questions for staff? Does anyone need to hear from the applicant? All right. Hearing none, would someone like to make a motion on ANX 264? Motion we approve. Motion for approved for Mr. Ol. Uh need a second. Second. Second, Mr. Norris. Uh all in favor say I. I. Any opposed? All right. That will move forward to the uh city's uh city council for next Monday. Moving moving on to RZ 258.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Okay, this is not just one parcel but a group of six parcels. They are outlined in red here. Um you can see South F Street running north south on your on the page and River Street, East River Street is off the page on your left. Does everybody know where we are? Okay, great. The applicant seeks to reszone the subject properties to operate a funeral home. Um, the lots consist of a vacant building and associated parking that operated as a funeral home for many years as a legal non-conforming use. So, let me explain that. I know I've explained it before, but it can be confusing. So, for whatever reason there when it was re when it was zoned, um, it was given a single family designation even though there was a funeral home on it. the funeral home was operating at the time. So, it was allowed to continue as a legal nonconformity, right? And that can continue till the end of time as long as that business does not close. And it if it closes for 4 months, it loses that legal nonconformity and it has to come back to and comply with the current zoning for any new use on that site. Does that make sense? Okay. Um, so since the funeral home ceased to operate for a couple of years, um, it lost its non-conforming status and must be reszoned to reopen. So, they're seeking a reszoning to reopen as a funeral home. Um, the NC neighborhood commercial zoning classification is the least intensive commercial classification that allows a funeral

home. So, this is the least intensive um use or zone that would allow a funeral home in an otherwise uh single family district. So, that whole all that yellow surrounding it is single family and they're asking to reszone that existing building and parking lot so that they can operate a funeral home. Okay. Um the application represents an opportunity to revise the zoning map to allow a historic use of these properties as a funeral home once again. However, the proposed neighborhood commercial zoning district permits a significant list of allowed uses that may not be appropriate for the residential environment in which the subject property is is abetted. And we'll look at those in a minute. Um staff supports a funeral home in this location. once again, but has some concerns that any other uses that could operate if reszoned. The city of Anderson is currently in the process of revising its zoning code and there could be ways to create language permitting funeral homes and instit in an institutional use without allowing the more intense commercial uses in the NC district. Um this is currently being studied and it is anticipated that the new regulations will be adopted later this year. So a little bit of a background on that. Um we um the city is currently working on redoing the entire zoning ordinance. Right. So it's all based on the existing zoning districts. Um but there's some nuance and some some minor changes. One of those minor changes is to create a new district called PI, which is public institutional in that district. That would be for like

churches in residential mainly residential districts or schools mainly in residential districts. But it allows for those uses to be that use would be re that use would be reszoned to that district PI and allowed in that um single family residential district getting rid of these nonconformities, right? And it could also help address issues that we have for these institutions um with like signage. That's one thing that comes to mind. Okay, it would allow signage whereas you're not allowed that signage in a residential district. Um, so staff is currently looking at adding a funeral home to that PI district, that new PI district. And this could be reszone to that new PI district, and it would eliminate um these other listed I'm sorry, let me move here. it would restrict that to the permitted uses in this zone or in this on this property to very limited number. So it could end up being could be used as a church or a funeral home or a school or things like that instead of um personal I'm sorry personal services which could be barber shops or things like that or even restaurants. These are some of the uses that could be allowed in the NC that might not be compatible with that single family district. Um, let me shift back a little bit. So, here's your single family residential, which is that yellow that you saw on the map surrounding it. Um, and you can see the permitted uses are very restricted. Chief among them is the single family dwelling. Okay. And then the list below is conditional uses. And then we get into this NC again, this

larger list of more intense uses that would be allowed if it's reszoned NC conditional uses. So that's staff's reasoning. Um the applicant has representation here tonight and I'm willing to take any questions that you may have for staff. Thank you. Any more questions for staff? I I have a question. Um, we have the list of the people that are for and against it. Do all of the people that signed live in the neighborhood? No, ma'am. That's not my understanding. Okay.

Any other questions for staff? Yeah. Um, just going off this, do you know how this was this wasn't done through the city? These No, sir. It was not. It's a was there was a community meeting um that that was circulated at and those results were brought to staff, the planning department. Uh, that NC that's currently there. Let me let me I was going to say pull pull it back up because there is an NC across the street right here. Yes. You know who that is?

I believe it's vacant right now. It is a store. It It is The building does look more like a commercial use is the reason it's got an NC designation and I'm sure it was at one time, but it's like a storefront building. I believe it used to be a store. I'm sorry. I remember it used to be a store. It used to be a store. Yes, sir. Any other questions for staff? That NC was given years ago or Yes, sir. I can't tell you be specific on the year that it when it was resed. Did you get any calls?

Not on this one. Other than other than I would call your attention to the the um I'm sorry the letter the letter yes the pros and and it's I would note that there are two there there's one that's pro and one that's con so to facilitate um usually what going forward what we can do is hear from the applicant for a time limit of I believe it's 10 minutes and then uh anyone wanting to speak for or against for 15 minutes and then the applicant can come back up for another five minutes. Do you all want to do that?

I do. Yeah. So, if the applicant will step forward and state their name, please Mr. Chair, commissioners, I'm not the applicant. I'm the attorney for the applicant and do not hold that against me. Also, I'll confess to being a Baptist deacon, so do not hold the 10 minutes against me either. At any rate, um I appreciate the opportunity to come and if I look a little dazed, it's because this is the twilight zone for me. I'm returning to Anderson after 40 years. myself. At any rate, um the I'm not sure the non-conforming is it it was a store. I would defer to you, but DB Walker Funeral Home is just a rock uh stones throw from this property and it continues to operate as a funeral home. Um I won't waste your time. I will go straight to addressing what appears to be some concern and that concern is that the what we the zoning that we are seeking which to allow the funeral home also has with it a multitude of things that could be objectionable and that's understandable. But what I would ask the the commission to consider is that a funeral home is a significant investment. Um some $300,000 will go into it um fairly quickly and then by the time the doors open will be another 300. So about $600,000 well over half million dollars will be invested in it. And then the the it it the return on investment occurs over seven to 10 years. So if what we're looking at is what a turnover of the property in that particular community, if you sink

$600,000 in it, it's because you're expecting to get a certain type of return with a certain type of business. And so you're you're reasonably assured that you will have that business there for the for the duration. And if this other um category of classification that we're talking about comes to fruition, you can then roll the funeral home into that um and it doesn't restrict the funeral home. It allows it to continue functioning and we all live happily ever after. So the so the I didn't hear any other objection coming from the staff other than the fact that the the list is so large until it is so it causes people to be somewhat nervous and I'm saying that you that the purchaser is restrained by the investment and the investment I won't get into you know where the investment act excuse me the investment what expectations are. But the reality is $300,000 for the transfer and then another $300,000 to have the property back and that's including turnkey to be able to operate the the service and you expect to get that back over 7 to 10 years.

Thank you. Any questions for the applicant?

And Mr. Chair, if you permit me um No, no, no, no. I just want to introduce you, Mr. Holly. And and Mr. Holly is the purchaser. He operates the JP um power fuel home in some in Columbia, South Carolina, and he's seeking to expand services to the Anderson area. and um he can um vouch for the the investment amount and the return on investment going out 7 to 10 years. Um but for right now, I will entertain any questions that you might have and I apologize. Um they didn't have the benefit of living in for 10 years like I did, so I knew where to come.

Any other questions for the applicant or Not right now. All right. Hear none. Um, thank you. We'll call you back up. Um, so we will now hear from anyone that wants to uh make a any kind of uh argument for or against this uh RZ 258. If uh someone would like to come up and uh and speak. Um, and we do ask that if someone's already said something that you've uh that that you would like to say, you don't have to say it twice. if you will state your name. And

my name is uh Darthy Johnson and I my father was the previous owner of the funeral home and it has been a funeral home on that corner for at least 70 years and this in 58 I'm sorry. Um in 1967 across the street before it was a parking lot it was a store that was ran by and a funeral home. It was Jackson Fuel Home at that time and Mr. Jackson also had a store there. But we have I can walk from Johnson's funeral home to every funeral home, black funeral home in this in the area. I can walk to Unity. I can walk to Walker. I can walk to Mark Brown. I can walk to Holloway. So I don't know why people are against the funeral home being there because it's been there. A funeral home has been on that corner for 70s something years since I was a little girl cuz I used to walk up Toma Street. I was raised on Toma Street on the on the four end of it. So I think this is mostly about one funeral home that doesn't want another funeral home to come into our area. But I don't understand why because when Marcus Brown built his funeral home, it was still the same number of fuel homes, black fuel homes in Anderson. And with this gentleman open, reopening Johnson Fuel Home, it's still going to be what, five black fuel homes in Anderson. But a lot of this is because of a fume director here in Anderson that doesn't want a another funeral home here. I guess they think it's going to hurt their business. That's all.

Thank you. Unless you have any questions. Thank you. So, I would take it that you're on the foreside on that. I am. And most of those people I've read on that list do not live on Southside. Okay. I was raised on Southside. Okay. And some of those other people I speak to every day, but uh so I'm finished. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. Anyone else with a guess?

I would speak in uh favor of the reasonzoning for the new funeral home. I too had to go through this process when I opened my business. I built a building on the corner of uh Franklin and uh McDuffy. Uh before I built that business, it was covered in kudzu and uh junk cars and other stuff like that. But uh this is in an attempt to bring another black business into the area. And uh like my wife said, I don't know why people are against this because we need more black businesses in Anderson. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Um is there anyone else that for or against? All right, hearing none. Um would someone like to make a motion? Yes. Question. Staff. Yes. Question for staff.

I just want to clarify the staff's position on this because maybe I wasn't listening. I'm just Are you Is staff saying you want you're okay with a funeral home there, but you want to wait until this new PI zone is made or are you saying what are you saying? What's your position? That would be yes. Yes, sir. That's staff's position.

So the fear is once we ring this bell, we can't unring it as you have said in the past. So once we make it neighborhood commercial, it is always neighborhood commercial. So with respect to the applicant, 20 years from now, this unit, they they decide Anderson wasn't the market they wanted to be in. They leave. Now that property is subject to all these other uses. And so that's the fear in the community is what's next after the funeral home ceases to exist if we do change this zone. And there is no there's no re once they get this zoning we can't force them to change it to the other one is what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. I I I get that. I get that.

So let me let me if I might just say that a little bit differently. Um, so yes. Yes. If let let's just say, and I'm not saying they're going to do this, but let's just say they want to hold on to the NC zoning district. The during this during this uh redo of the zoning ordinance, there's really it there really not nothing we can do u staff can do to force them to go to PI, right? What's the what's the time frame for the reasonzoning?

Um, there is currently no schedule for approval to to go through the process for approval with town council, but we're estimating the end of the year. So, you're looking at around 6 months. Yes, sir. And if we deny them tonight, that forces them to wait a year. No, it does not. You're just a recommending body to town council. So, your recommendation moves on to town council to uh next Monday. And yeah, but if but if we recommend no and then town council takes our recommendation, then they have to wait a year before they can reapply.

So, yes, but said a little bit differently, if town council denies them, yes, there is a year waiting period. So that being said, uh we need to take up a motion for uh RZ258 either for or against. So do I hear a motion for RZ 258? I'd like to hear from the actual investor myself to be honest with you. I want to I want to talk to him if possible. I hate to extend the meeting, but I just feel like this is too important. It is. It is. Very good.

Mr. Chair, if you don't mind, I would like to at least stand paid for what they say. Exactly. What is it? Uh uh. You get paid by the word. Correct. Yes, sir. Well, good evening. I'm I'm Jonathan Holly. I'm owner of JP Holly Funeral Home in Fruitfield. I'm a licensed funeral director here in South Carolina. Um licensed to operate anywhere inside. Um selected Anderson as a as a great community we want to come and work in. Um but we have whatever questions you all may have.

Well, I don't think you are unaware of the concern in the community, right? I mean, their concern is you you get into this and you decide, you know what, we're not going to do this. We're going to change our minds. We're going to locate to another spot. We're going to sell this property. Well, now we well we and then city council have reszoned this to a zoning that now opens up a plethora of opportunities for other people to come in and open up a restaurant, liquor store, you know, any number of things that might not be as fitting in the community. Um, so I'm asking you like you are committed to this project.

Oh yes, sir. Totally. you are not, you know, this isn't an exploratory thing you're doing. You're you have locked in as a I mean, as a business owner, I I I understand that. I believe the attorney did speak to what the investment was. It's significant. It's significant. Mr. Jim, I know his time. It might be a bit more succinct if I explain the point that he's making. Yeah, that that's fine.

Okay. He doesn't object to reszoning to conform with whatever the new zoning is. what he's concerned with is the time and money going ahead and getting, you know, getting down the road, so to speak, you know, from that standpoint.

And um and I I know that there is no such thing as contract zoning and and and and all of that. Um but it's one of those things that we've talked about and it's it's looking about six months. Um let me ask this. How long can application for reszoning sit on the table before you must act on it? And I know it's a sad question. it. No, it's a fair question because we've kind of discussed we've been discussing

discussing this because um now St. Chris uh to that question, how if if they were to decide right now that they would like to remove it um for a or I don't want to say withdraw the application, but um delay the application. What What's the process for that? um they just need to state that they would like to postpone um this review uh with planning commission prior to your all's vote and the the application would remain active until they were a or um they asked staff to push it put it forward again. Now is there anything because this body is mainly

we do things on the current zoning right so we make uh uh any kind of decisions on the current zoning. uh if this were to move forward for or against uh to city council on Monday, would that body be able to do any kind of changes where um it would just have to be the neighborhood commercial? It could not be uh any other um zoning or overlay or anything like that. I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. So, they could move forward as neighborhood commercial,

correct? and and uh council will dispose of it, you know, taking your consider your recommendation into consideration. Correct. However they wish. I think what Marshall was asking is if um city council has any a broader uh spectrum of options than we do. Isn't that what you're So, pretty much. Yes. Thank you. So unfortunately, no, because it's not large enough to do a a PD, uh, which might be an option where they could tailor down and add further restrictions. Yes. Um, but it's not the site is not large enough. There's a minimum size. I'm sorry. I think it's five acres. That's what I was about to say cuz we did that for the Franklin. Yes. Um. Yes.

All right. But it it there's a there's a limit. There's a there's a minimum size on that and it's just not large enough. Okay. Has the applicant already purchased the property? Yes, sir. So, there's carrying costs associated already holding the property for 6 months. Yes, sir.

We would ask if we could go forward, but the reason I asked about the delayed application is in good faith, we would submit the application as soon as possible for the new zoning so that we you you would know that the funeral home is what he's interested in. And let me make one final point on that. You look at the list, if you look at let's just pick a barber shop from the list, the investment back expectations for barber shop is less than I don't know what compared to a funeral home. The only appropriately. There is no other significant investment back expectation other than a funeral home. So he's coming to the dance with one expectation and the competition that and I'm I'm using that term in quotation that would be introduced would have a it would be a lower investment. I'm not thinking that it would be wiser for him to try to get the seven-year cycle out and it would be in his interest to roll the zoning over to the funeral home as soon as possible so that it that's protected and everybody else of like mind will protect themselves similarly. So, so the I'm not going to say that he's trapped, but I'm going to say that he's committed himself to a course that is that does not give him flexibility.

Any more questions for him that I can answer? I'm just Thank you for speaking to us. All right. So are we so are are we wanting to withdraw or just keep it forward? Keep it moving forward. Yes. All right. So we're moving forward with RZ258. So hearing that. Would someone like to make a motion on RZ 258? Like to make a motion that we approve it. All right, a motion to approve with a second. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed?

All right, so that will move forward. Who was the second, please? The second was Dr. Conurs. Okay, great. Thank you. So, we this will move forward to the uh city council next Monday. Yes.

All right. Thank you. And we will now move forward with RZ261. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Okay, once again, the uh parcels, there's two parcels are outlined in red uh here. Um, East Greenville Street is kind of running diagonally across the the page. Um, this is the new This is Windsor Place. That's Is that right? It's the been purchased by AnED. We'll talk about that in a minute.

Windsor Place. Yes. Windsor Place. Yes. And this is um Anderson Pavilion Shopping Center where the Publix is. Uh, and Chick-fil-A up in here some right here. The Catholic Church is off to the right. Everybody know where we are?

Yes. Great. Um, the applicant would like to redevelop these two parcels as a car wash. This site is currently two parcels approximately 1.1 acres in size and uh at the corner of McLe and East Greenville Street. A car wash is not allowed in NC. It's currently zoned NC. Um, and the applicant is requesting it to be reszoned to GC. There are other GC zoned parcels um I'm sorry in in the general location and staff would like to speak to that. So generally this is what we would call a neighborhood commercial. So these are less intensive commercial uses like we discussed intended for the local local neighborhood businesses like that. Um there are two larger parcels and it's and it's important to note that they're larger um shopping centers. Um the Anderson pavilion it has its own both pedestrian and vehicular internal circulation patterns um along with the out parcel. Um, the other Windsor Place is was developed as a a strip mall, a shopping center, but has recently been purchased by ANMED um, and is being redeveloped for a medical office use. Okay. So, I say that because it's important because we talked about that PI zone, that um, public institutional zone that would include hospitals. And um the thought is that this this GC will be zoned to that PI use to more correctly reflect the use that's on the site right now in the zoning map. Okay. Um

while the future land use map does indicate commercial uses in this area, the trend is toward those uses compliant with neighborhood commercial. So again, a lighter, less intense use than the GC. A GC uh would be big box stores um like well big box grocery stores or Target, things like that. Um the neighborhood commercial is smaller stores like um a pharmacy or or a barber shop or or things like that. Um I'm sorry. The requested zoning of GC commercial is intended to accommodate higher intensity uh commercial ukus uses focusing on serving the entire city again where neighborhood just neighborhood commercial just focuses on the local neighborhood area. This is not in keeping with most other uses in the area particularly the frontage between Cornelia Road and Mccles. So again, the frontage from here to here is all well, generally uh neighborhood commercial. Um staff believes this section of East Greenville should be preserved as neighborhood commercial and is recommending denial. So again, tonight we've been talking about um the uses allowed in the development ordinance. So here is a list of neighborhood commercial uses. Again, this is what it is currently zoned. So, all of these uses are allowed what I would call under permitted uses by right uses. These are the conditional uses and again they have you u a condition associated maybe additional screening or something um associated with these uses that are allowed. And then this is the list that's allowed in GC.

So again, like we said in the other one, you change this to neighborhood commercial, you open or to general commercial, you open the door to all these uses. And there's no um there's nothing that you can restrict it to be just used as the car wash or this particular car wash. And these are conditional uses allowed in GC. This is a proposed um site plan for the new development. Again, the two lots, Greenville Street would be up here on the top of your page with Mccles on the left hand side. So again, staff is recommending denial. The applicant is here if you have any questions of them. Otherwise, staff is happy to answer any questions now.

Thank you. Now, how would cars access? So, according to this plan, you would turn on to McCleas and then you turn down. It's not a public road. You turn down that road and then come in here through the tunnel and then out with your vacuum stations and then back out onto that private road and then onto Mccle. So, coming and going would all be on MC. Yes, sir. That's correct. Is there any plan to put a light there or anything? Or you can't because there's two there's two lights in between.

Um, so that would be up to that's an state road. Greenville is so that would be up to the state. There's a light. Yeah. Yeah. I I don't think it's Yeah, I think it's too close for them to put a third. Um, any other questions for staff? Have you received any phone calls on this?

We have. We've received two, but they what I would classify them asformational. You know, why do we have a get why is there a yellow sign out on this property? And there was no expressed in favor disapproval of Any other questions for staff? Has a traffic study been done on this? Has anything been

No, sir. That would typically be done at when in during development. Um, I'll be perfectly honest with you. I'm not I don't think one would be triggered. I don't know what in our ordinance would trig Let me put it that way. I don't know what in our ordinance would trigger that. I'm not saying that it's wouldn't be needed, but I don't know what would trigger it because this isn't a PDD or anything like that. It does not trigger those other but there may well. Any other questions for staff? Would you like to hear from the applicant? The applicant would step forward please state your name.

Hello.

Hello. Uh just a little history here. I was here about seven years ago for Papa Bear number one on Clemson Boulevard. And uh we closed down an old car wash and replaced it with Papa Bear and old old change. If you all remember that little area and I think we've made a positive impact to the to the look and to the to the area. So I just want to mention that. Um, we, believe it or not, we have 14,000 members in Anderson between the two stores that we have that enjoy coming to our car washes. So, this is something that the community really enjoys coming to do and we believe that we can that we need another location on that side of town to uh for the other people that live on that side of town to come and u enjoy. Um, I would like to give you all a new layout. We did a new layout that had put three pay stations. And if you don't mind, I'd like to just pass this out. Um, after looking at it, I just want to make sure that we had plenty stacking capability. Uh, we increased the stacking, almost doubled the stacking capability from 12 cars to 21 cars or 13 cars to 21 cars. At our Clemson Boulevard site, we only have 10 cars stacking, believe it or not. And that's made us process cars very fast. Um, in this situation where we put the third pay station in where we were able to increase to 21 cars in stacking, I really believe that the stacking issue is not going to be a problem. That back road uh that you come behind, that private road that you come on is a very quiet road. I sat there for an hour and a half today just watching cars and very few cars even go down that road. So, I don't think we're going to create a traffic issue. um our our busiest times, you know, with the school. I know they're in the morning and afternoon. We're 12:00 to 2:00 and 4:00 to 5 are our busiest times. So, I don't think we're going to I don't we're not going to even be an issue. I just want to kind of point that out that that the times of pickup is different and drop off is

different at our busiest times. But, um of course, we build a very very nice building as you all know. We take care of the landscaping very well. Uh we are glad to be part of the community here and um I just think that this is going to add to that area. I mean and there's two properties right next to us that are commercial. One that touches us of course that the Ammed board and then the the public spot. So we do have you know we do have general commercial right around us. Um, and if there's any other and and just to another thing just you know there's two buildings been sitting there for a long time for for a while. There is some contamination on one of the buildings if I'm not mistaken that we're going to have to clean up. So that's going to be someone that's someone's going to have to do that at some point to get that place to, you know, to make make a good business of it. Um, and that's all. Any questions for me? Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that. Okay. Thank you. Now, how does Tell me again how this differs from the plan we have. It's got three pay I put a third pay station in there. So, we have additional pay stations. So, it gives us uh three pay stations to process at one time so traffic so cars don't back up. So, he's got three entrances instead of two. instead of the two. Okay. The plan I have in my packet has three already there. Does it have three? Yeah, we sent those in. Uh so I didn't know if we um we sent those in earlier. I don't know who who got them and who didn't. I thought I would bring a paper copy.

Okay. Um question for staff. Who owns the um private road? Um the bank. That bank does is my understanding. There are two banks, right? No, there's Well, there is two banks. There's first citizens in Wells Fargo. I think it's First Citizens. Yeah, they would have to do the maintenance, everything for this. Correct. It's It's a private road. It would not be the city's responsibility.

We communicated agent hasated issues. Any further questions for staff or applicant? Hear none. Would someone like to make a motion on RZ 261?

I move to deny. Mo motion to deny. Do we have a second? A second. Mr. seconds. Uh so all in favor of denial say I. I. All uh opposed say I. All right. The eyes have it. So this will go uh in front of the um city council on Monday. Yes, sir. That's correct. All right. Hearing no other uh