City Council - Regular Meeting

all right everybody uh thank you for giving up your evening at food lay outside but thank you for going on the call this uh meeting the water i'm gonna say may 27th at 6 30 number two and uh still not a good road call

Do you trust the small? and i would like to move the approval of tonight's agenda Okay. Okay. Basically. long process, but we're 68, right? So the other thing June 6, and And we'll stay on this. It increased, increased, and increased. See that? So this is, they claimed that it was clearing up the HIV. This is where the needles were. This is in 2000. And now every year, this is where it started in 2004.

And see how it continued to increase and double and triple. And it is standing in Hamburg in 22 years now. It was in Grace Harbor in 2021.

It's standing in East Street. It's kind of floating in the city of State Street. but the harm reduction, this is like the, to me, that is, now there, So, you know, this is, this was, I told you there, we saw two to four thousand go out, even by the boxes, it's not a one-off exchange, and it is hauled out. And first, I'm just going to give you some answers. eager to get started on that if that . . . . Thank you. Good evening, I'm Chris Hess.

I am in the fourth ward. I also support the compassionate actions of harm reduction generally, and specifically in the vein that times here from. I forgot my charts, but I also noticed the price of apples has been going up steadily over the last 10 years. And so I thought maybe that was responsible for all the cases.

Maybe that's something to look at. Thank you. The other public comments.

I do have a I have a letter that I received. Don't read in the public comment. OK, so I received this letter from Scott and Scott Depew. He says I'm writing to represent my special needs and verbally limited adult daughter Crystal. It is expected that she will live alone for many years after both my wife and I have reached the end of our lives. I attended the town hall meeting on 5-21-2026 with my family. Crystal sat through the entire meeting in silence. I do not believe her future was truly considered during the discussion. Drug use within the city limits makes almost all public activity nearly impossible for her. The expectation of reserving fenced public spaces does not work with the nature of her autism. If the city council, police department, and school district cannot create safe and usable public spaces, then in practice she is being limited to private life only. We have already entrusted the city with a level of access by installing an emergency accessible key box on our home. When Crystal needs support outside the home, could you consider extending that same trust? Could you trust her with the keys to her own community so she can unlock engagement and activity in public spaces? If I could make one simple suggestion, it would be this. Please do not view all adults and their needs solely through the lens of existing laws and procedures. Many issues would be more easily addressed if they were regularly viewed from different perspectives, especially the perspective of a young woman who will one day be your constituent long after I am no longer here to advocate for her. I know this letter may be filed away and quickly forgot. Even so, as a parent who cares deeply about my daughter's future, I cannot stay silent when I see that her future in this community is becoming a place of limited possibility.

Thank you. And that letter was in regards, I believe, to the slave deal that Miller Jr. on James Locke. With draft. With draft, yeah. So she's unable to use it at night after school hours. Is that it, Tim? All right. So thank you. Now we'll move on to the consent agenda with that council. President Pro Tems Hubbard.

I move that we accept tonight's consent agenda, including minutes from the May 15th, 2026 meeting, and if that's available, then available. Second.

That was seconded by Councilperson Nipper.

Is there any discussion? All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Aye.

Thank you. It passes. Thank you. Now we go on to the mayor's report, which is a small, huge list here, not just the smallest. First off, I wanted to thank our student representatives for taking the time out of their young adult lives to come and help learn about our city and help guide us in the I very much appreciate your time. Let's see. I met with Representative Birnbaum about talking. I spoke with him specifically about talking to the state and seeing what he could do to help get us more mental health, more homeless, and more addictive personnel or money to help us with our own programs, not money that would go to the county or the state, but money that would come directly to the city of Aberdeen. He said that he would look into that for me, and I've scheduled another appointment for him and I to meet with Ruth, Administrator Clemmons, and talk about the same issues in depth. On Sunday, there was a request by Lee Rowley for a candlelight vigil for Hayden at Sand Bend Park and there was no we didn't have the funds or the people to open the restrooms for them or provide them with electricity so I got the keys from the parks department and went and cleaned the bathrooms at 10 o'clock and then closed them at 10 o'clock at night after their event was over so that they would have access to public restrooms I wish we had the money that we could keep our restrooms open for the public more often, but we don't right now. Thursday, I met with Mayor Springer from Cosmopolis and Commissioner Miller. This had to do with personnel issues with the transit authority that I'm a member of as being mayor. So I can't come to that, but I just let you know we did that. And then on a personal note, yesterday, I went to the Bloedel Reserve on Banbridge Island, and if anybody ever has a chance to go there, it's a fabulous place. They have moss gardens, Japanese gardens. It's just a beautiful place. Well worth the horrific drive to get there, and the horrific drive back, unless it's sitting in traffic. We're so lucky in Grace Harbor we don't have that issue. And that's all I had to say. Are there any council reports? Council person, Francis.

I attended the Grace Arford Cog, Council Billings. There is a lovely presentation about aggregate and DMRs. Taking inventory of all the gravel and crushed rock sand.

That sounds exciting.

That's what I got to report.

OK, thank you. Any other?

Yeah, I could have a little ride along with DJ just to watch his morning rounds, helping people get up and and move along that are sleeping in town. We probably saw about 20 people who all successfully thought up and and moved along. They didn't see me and he went around this morning and nobody was there so. I don't know if I scared anyone, but yeah, everybody had already gotten up and moved along when he did his rounds this morning. He did tell me he does know the people that are down there and kind of knows their story. And a lot of people are not from Grays Harbor, interestingly enough. They're not even from Washington. So that was interesting as well.

Thank you. Any other counsel reports?

Yes. All right. Um, tomorrow I'll be recognized for all my medical achievements I have accomplished through high school as well as 38 other students. I'm grateful for the opportunities and supporting experiences that every school district has helped me with. Also, June 1st, there's a music booster award night at 630. On the second is the Irving High School and Miller Junior High concert choir concert at 7 PM. June 3rd is the last day for seniors. Yay. And June 5th is graduation. Doors open at 6, but the ceremony starts at 7. And then June 13th and 14th, the Irving High School Cheer is doing a Grow Out Sale fundraiser. If you have items you'd like to donate or simply like to contribute financially, please reach out to me. It costs roughly $25,000 a year for our cheer team to operate. This team spends countless hours supporting other athletes, students, and our community. And it's time that we step up and we support them as well. Today marks my final council meeting as an Aberdeen City Council student representative. I want to thank everyone who has supported me and allowed me to serve in this role. While my time came to an end sooner than expected, I am proud of the work I've accomplished. During my time in this position, I have surveyed students and staff across Aberdeen to better understand their concerns around safety, affordability, and youth engagement. I've also met with local business leaders to discuss the importance of youth involvement within our community and them supporting the local businesses. In addition, I hope June gets established as student recognition month to celebrate the accomplishments and impacts students have in Aberdeen. As I leave this role, I hope our leaders continue to consider every decision impacts the future of our city. Most importantly, I hope they continue listening and investing in the youth in our community because the young people have the power to shape Aberdeen for years to come. And that is it. Thank you.

Thank you. Any other? All right. Move on to the director's report. City directors. Yes. Director Smith.

wanted to say about the student council representatives.

The application process was sent last week to the school district with a deadline of June 5th for candidates to submit their resumes. It's our intent to have the new student reps sworn in at the September meeting so they can serve the whole school.

Thank you. Can I ask you a question? Has anyone applied that you know of? Yeah. Perfect. Perfect.

Any other directors?

All right, move on to the presentation by Shenandoah's River Stewardship Project.

And my name is Mike Venier.

Lindsay Thurber, board three.

That's just in here.

This is Tristan Vigneaux.

Sorry. Tristan, okay.

Brooks and Hannah Stewardship Project.

So thank you guys for having us here today. We were very excited to kind of introduce ourselves. We have had a pretty eventful one month and four days now. So I just wanted to give everybody an update. We kind of introduced ourselves, but based on the name itself. So. We're basically an environmental stewardship organization here based out of Aberdeen, Grace Harbor County. We're working on cleanup operations, storm drain stewardship, pollution awareness, and that's all throughout Grace Harbor County as well. Also into Pacific. We do every Saturday, we do organized trash cleanup. Again, all the way up Aberdeen. We meet up on the south side of Aberdeen Food Street 12 launched every Saturday at 9 a.m. religiously. So we try not to miss that because that's really important to us. And then on Wednesdays, we have songwriting stewardship. We've included a copy of this in all of it. In one month and five days now, we have done 22 community cleanups. We have removed over 100 bags of trash. Unfortunately, we have no way of weighing it right now. I know we can weigh what we draw up off back in May, but as a total weight for everything around the county, including having it together as a whole, trying to figure out how we can do that weighting, because we're actually kind of curious. It seems like people are more interested in that as well. So, quite a bit there. We've also done, we're also steering over 3,000 acres in coordination with DNR, That's the Checala Slurge Plain, Blue Slough, Preacher Slough, all the way through Bone River and Elk River through Pacific Shire. So that's been really fun. So we walk a lot throughout there. We actually just hiked out seven bags of trash down through Blue Slough. We had to hike it. We had to climb up the side of the hill and hike it all out. There's really no way of doing it. It's a pretty remote area, so it's our level of dedication, really. On top of that, we also are working on youth education programs. And throughout that, we're working on building engagement and building a long-term positive impact within Grace River County within just cleaning up trash and steaming the water. Throughout this, we have partnered and collaborated and have ongoing initiatives with multiple different Michigan State agencies. So we kind of missed that out. Right now we have a partnership with DNR, Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife is coming up with a whole new volunteer program in coordination with us because we say we're kind of unique. So they have to come up with a whole new, you know, everything basically new for us. So I'm still working through that. It's going to take a few months, but we're definitely excited for that program to roll out. I know that we've been moving some stuff out of the river this summer, so I know we're going to need more volunteers for that. Again, we do a lot of engagement online through social media. We've all noticed that the community has really been engaging in that as well. So on top of that, we're also working with the Department of Ecology. And also NOAA, we're working with them on training and large marine debris removal for the future and future trainings and whatever we can do to learn more about the coast and the byways and how we can properly work with all the agencies together to remove large marine debris. On top of it, we are also working in Washington State Department of Health, Environment and Science section. This is just for health, since we're cleaning up certain areas on the riverbanks. This is just to learn for training. A good future for our volunteers to decide the safety impacts of the full operation and the stewardship and so on. We're also working with future initiatives in collaboration with the USDA. We have a summer program with the US Forest Service that we're rolling out for propane awareness and vehicle removal services.

When somebody dumps the vehicle on US Forest Service land,

We're going to help notify them a lot earlier so they can tag it and remove it much, much quicker. On top of that, we've also spoken with the U.S. Coast Guard on safety initiatives, on how the water works. So we're working to get out on the water with NOAA with a large marine debris removal up and down the Chehalis River. So on top of that, we're also working with them on safety initiatives as well. We've also worked with the Naval Base of Everett on a community initiative for a Navy park out in Pacific Beach to kind of showcase what they have done in the area and their historical impact and how they have contributed to us and how they helped the area as well. We're also actively involved in Grace Harbor Search and Rescue and FEMA as well. We're very excited about that. We volunteer with that. We're trying to get all of our volunteers more actively involved in that as well. And then, of course, we do the Miami-Kittsville County Marine Stewardship Communication involving the Grace Harbor Marine resources getting as well as the sub-county. On top of that, we also did a community collaborative with Washington State Patrol. So they used to try to get them a little bit more involved with the schools and the community. They kind of showed up to one of our trash days and did like a maneuver down there in the street and the volunteers really liked it. So it kind of showed that community engagement, just kind of showed Grace Harbor as a whole, that we're all here working together. On top of that, I guess, we are also involved on the outreach for the Cosmopolis Fault Mill. We have been doing a lot of environmental awareness around the property, and there was, like, no security. We have security there now. And then we notified the public about the cleanup supporters being done on May 14th. So we've done a lot of outreach for ecology on that as well. We're kind of actively working on more as it comes down the line. All right. Our environmental awareness outreach on social media has already reached, surprisingly, tens of thousands of people. Right before we walked in here, we only had 215 followers, but we have over 65,000 views on the page overall. We posted a post yesterday just to kind of get some community engagement, and we had over 100 likes and almost 50 shares. It's amazing. Some people get a little feisty, but it was really fun to just basically get the engagement. That was all it was about. And that was kind of what we're doing with the entire stewardship. It's just bringing everybody and bridging that gap between the agencies, between the community, so we can all work together to pick up the trash and clean up the community. This is our first presentation to the city council, so thank you for working with us here a little bit. We like studied for this, so did the kid. He got really nervous up.

just noticed a lot throughout the community that we you know and we took i go out and i engage with a lot of the people i know a lot of people out on the street i've actually been out on these streets 11 years i've spent out here running around these streets and changed my life around so you know we're doing different things now and and uh making moves.

Like we always like to say, we appreciate you guys taking the time to listen to us. Again, this is our first presentation, so we're working on it. Again, we're creating a small wave, but that small wave will be something much larger down the road. And this is just, it's just one month, so in four days that we have this, the impact that we have made in that time. And lastly, our future vision for this is we're looking for a community hub for all nonprofits. for every agency to be able to collaborate, to walk in, you'll have information, just a building where everybody can come together and see everything within all the resources in that area. These are kind of the projects we've been working on in the storm drain stewardship and more signage, just note down the key and just kind of help with environmental impact around everything. So we appreciate you guys taking the time to listen to us. Thank you.

We have a question. If you're trying to lay bags of garbage, do the scales work for them? Like the thing that lays the fish? You guys don't have your property yet, or a space yet?

No. You were looking for 2,000 to 2,500 square feet. So if anybody knows something that they'd like to locate in Aberdeen, we'd love to have them here. They're doing an amazing job.

Thank you.

Great, thank you. Next we have Calvin Larson from Portland.

I believe he's online.

Hey, I'm here. Can you guys hear me? Yeah.

Yes. Okay, great. I'm going to share my screen here real quick.

Just give me one moment, please. Okay, great.

Can we all see the screen fine there?

Yes.

Great. Well, thank you. I appreciate everybody's time here to learn more about the Portland Lou. Excuse me. Sorry. There we go. So to give you a little background on the Portland Lou, the Portland Lou was created by the city of Portland, Oregon, to deal with the inevitable misuse and vandalism that public restrooms see.

So the city of- Hey, we can't see your screen anymore. Oh, you can't? Sorry.

Thank you. No, I appreciate it. Thank you. Sorry about that.

Give me one sec. Okay.

You can see it now?

Yes, we can. Thank you.

Sorry about that. So the city of Portland wanted to create a bathroom that is more accommodating to the people who have to clean and maintain the restroom and not necessarily the occupant. So they created a stainless steel restroom that has an anti-graffiti powder coating on it that is just meant to be very simple and durable and withstand the realities that public restrooms see. The restroom has a modular design, so individual panels, doors, or fixtures can be replaced if damaged. In comparison to a lot of other similar bathrooms, they often are not modular, so entire restrooms have to be replaced if something is damaged. So the Portland Loo was designed with crime deterrent safety features. There are angled louvers at the top and the bottom of the restroom. Not only do those provide ventilation, But at that feet level, they give you a view inside of the restroom to see if someone is camping out using that restroom for reasons that they shouldn't be without taking away the privacy of the person using that restroom. As well, there are blue lights inside that restroom that will turn on when someone walks in that are on a sensor. Those blue lights create a contrast so drug users can't find their veins. And then, as I stated earlier, it's vandal resistant. So it's a prison grade toilet and vandal resistant components. Touching on the Portland loo and cold weather. So we have two different cold weather upgrades. We have a extreme cold weather upgrade that can handle temperatures to five degrees Fahrenheit. This is a more extreme upgrade that utilizes a copper loop on the inner cavity of that toilet bowl where that water is sitting that is connected to a water heater, a mixture of glycol and water circulate in that under inner cavity of the toilet bowl, creating a copper loop to allow that restroom or that toilet, excuse me, not to freeze. And then as well, we have our cold weather code upgrade. that can see temperatures to 20 degrees Fahrenheit. So either five degrees Fahrenheit or 20. And then we as well are working on a more upcoming cold weather upgrade that will be able to see temperatures much in the negatives. The Portland Loo is designed with minimal maintenance required. So there's a plumbing chase and an electrical chase in the rear of the restroom. And that plumbing chase, there is a hose bit So this allows someone who is cleaning the restroom to spray their cleaner all over that restroom, grab that hose in the plumbing closet, and you can spray the entire unit down for really quick, easy cleaning and maintenance. As well as I touched on earlier, there's anti-graffiti powder coating all over the restroom. So anytime that restroom is graffitied, it can be cleaned off very easily. And then as well, we really pride ourselves on our replacement parts are non-proprietary and locally sourced. This not only keeps costs down, but as well keeps downtime minimal as the last thing you want in your city is your restroom closed. So the Portland Loo uses a pressure flushing toilet. It uses 1.28 gallons per flush, which is less than your standard of 1.6. We as well have solar and hybrid power options available. And then as well, we use LED lighting, which is on a sensor. And those are more, they last longer and work better, more efficient for you. Touching on the vandal resistant components. So you can see we have front door latch guards, vandal resistant front door hardware, We have options such as a Vandal Guard trash can, a sharps disposal. We have two different types of exterior hand washes. We like to have our hand wash on the exterior because that is another design component that minimizes misuse and as well increases the throughput of the restroom. Someone could be in that restroom using it, while if someone just needs to wash their hands real quickly or get a little drink of water, they can use that exterior hand wash. But then, as I've previously mentioned, all the components on the restroom are vandal resistant and meant to handle that inevitable misuse. So vandal guard soap dispenser, toilet paper dispenser. Our skylight is made of a polycarbonate glass that is like your bank glass. It's bulletproof. And then as well, our lights are in a stainless steel housing. So the Portland Loo creates cleaner, healthier cities. The issue is, in public spaces without adequate restrooms, a city can suffer from unsanitary conditions that can increase maintenance burdens and safety concerns in your city. The Portland Loo provides a safe, accessible, permanent public restroom that encourages cleanliness and provides a durable, low-cost restroom. The result of having the Portland Loo in your city is you have a restroom that can handle the realities that public restrooms see. It will keep your city cleaner and safer, and you will have less human waste on your streets. So the Portland move is a long-term investment that pays off. Often, cities see the cheaper or more temporary solutions may be more appealing. But in the long term, they do always result in higher costs. from more frequent maintenance, inevitable vandalism, and replacement needs. The Portland Loo is an investment that will last decades in your city, saving you money long term while providing an efficient public restroom designed for high volume use. Just to give you an example, the city of Portland has restrooms going on about 20 years, and they're still going strong. It's really a great asset to your city that can provide a great accommodations for everyone around and safer, cleaner streets. Does anybody have any questions?

How does the Portland Blue do in windy, rainy weather? Does it need to be under a cover? Or how do we keep it out of those slats, especially the ones at the top?

Absolutely. Yeah, so we have some guards that can go over the top and the bottom louvers. These are vinyl curtains that are clear, so you could still have that visibility into the restroom, but as well cover from any rain, wind, water going into that restroom. But as well, those louvers are angled. So they do provide a solid amount of coverage. We have over 300 installations all across the United States in many in severe winter climates in areas that do see lots of rain and snow. And the restroom does perform exceptionally well, even in those environments.

Thank you.

You're welcome. I don't see any other questions. Thank you, Caleb.

Are you going to be able to stay online, Caleb, in case there's more questions at the end of the meeting when we have a discussion?

Absolutely.

Okay, thank you.

Yep, will do. Thank you. I appreciate everybody's time. Thank you.

All right, we'll move on to a request for council action. Finance Chair, would you have anything to report? Anything to report?

We have a resolution requesting the City Council authorize the transfer of $13,253.50 from the Water Fund to the Customer Assistance Program Fund by Resolution 2026-25. Seconded by Councilperson Brantley.

Yep. Is there any discussion? I just would like to point out that the $13,253.50 is money from late fees. It's not actually money coming out of that fund, I believe. So it's just going to go back to those customers that need it, probably the ones that paid the late fees. Any other comments? All in favor of a request by city council to authorize the transfer of $13,253.50 from the water fund to the customer water fund to the customer assistance program fund by resolution 2026-22, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you, that passes.

Next we have our question, City Council authorized the surplus of the 2007 Ford F-150 by Resolution 2026-21.

Make a motion we approve this report.

Second.

Seconded by Councilperson Hubbard. Is there any discussion? All in favor of a request to the City Council to authorize the surplus of 26-21, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Adopted, thank you. Now we'll move on to public safety with Chairperson Hubbard.

Okay, we met earlier this evening and we've got some updates from our police and fire departments. From the fire department, they've been busy. They had three fires due to a bill in the last few days. And they are currently working on A low income disabled and a senior rate for EMS fees. And that should be coming to us in the next couple of meetings to look at. The summer fire program is going to be running from June 15th to July 2nd. So anybody who's interested in that should reach out to them. And we have zero vacancies in our fire department right now for 16 whole days. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I'M SORRY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY HAVE A CONDITIONAL OFFER FOR THE 37TH AND FINAL BUDGETED OFFICER POSITION. SO SHE'S IN THE BACKGROUND PROCESS AND HOPING TO HAVE COMPLETION AROUND JULY 1ST. AND THEN THE POLICE OFFICERS POSITION WILL ALSO. AMAZING. SO THEN FOR REQUESTS, WE HAVE A request for City Council to authorize the approval of a maintenance agreement with Stryker Medical Equipment for the Aberdeen Fire Department's inventory of medical equipment. And I move that we accept this. Second.

Seconded by Councilperson McBride. Is there any discussion on this? Seeing none, there's a request City Council authorize the

of medical equipment all in favor say aye aye can you pose adoption thank you next we have a request for city council council to authorize the approval of the recommended expenditures of the opioid abatement council funds for 2026 and i need to approve this request second seconded by council person emperor is there any discussion on this

All in favor of request from the City Council to authorize the approval of recommended expenditures of opioid abatement council funds for 2026, say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? It's adopted, thank you. Okay, now we'll move on to public words with Chairperson Blank. Do you have anything to report?

Oh, we had a good meeting earlier today. We discussed the Transportation Improvement Plan and the On-Zone Projects for the City. We've got one report today. It's requesting to conduct a public hearing to receive testimony on the revised and extended six-year Transportation Improvement Plan for the years 2027 through 2032. I'm going to let you open this public hearing.

Second.

As accepted by Councilperson Hubbard, all in favor of opening public hearing, Say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay, we're now in a public hearing. Does anybody have anything that they'd like to say regarding this six year transportation improvement plan?

I'll take a motion to close this public hearing. Motion that we close this Public hearing.

Second.

Thank you.

This is. A motion made by Councilperson Lineham and seconded by Councilperson Nipper to close the public hearing. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. Now we move on to who is doing. Special committee items.

special committee items with council president from m hubbard uh we have a discussion requesting the city council review the attached quote from portland blue which is in our agenda packets um and that's why we have a few of our sins available to the council to be special

I can say I'm in favor of it.

Second. Thank you. Seconded by council person. Is there any discussion now?

What are we voting on? We're discussing. We're just discussing.

We had a motion. I'm just curious where it was going.

Is there any more discussion? I listened into the EDAC for quite a while. And one of my questions that we ask ourselves when we look at this, because I think it's a great piece of equipment, is if we're looking at something near term, where are we thinking of placing it? And in that context, then who's it for? Or is this a discussion where we're looking at something for downstream that fits in with other things that are still in the planning stages? I know during the EDAC discussion, it seemed to be related to a discussion on Broadway. But Broadway's down the road, and we don't know where. So I think I just would like counsel. In my mind, this is about where it would go and who we're placing this to serve and when, as we look at it. We absolutely have a need for public restrooms. We've approached this over the years many times. But if we're looking at a Portland Lube, it isn't a portable operation. And where we place it is going to have a cause and effect. And so who is the intended audience for it?

Those are my questions. I think the audience is local people as tourism as well as our homeless folks. And the location has to do, I believe, with Director Sanger can help us with this, but there's a a sewer pipe that goes near Broadway that it'll have to be connected to, so it'll probably be in that location. Is that right?

In my opinion, there's a long ways from that. We're not quite depending on whether or not that's going to be a project. We believe it will be, but there is sewer lines of that of adequate size to connect down there on Broadway and just about every location that's . I guess, sorry. Sorry, Mackenzie. My problem is that the Broadway Plaza is in the future, first of all, and we wanted for,

people who are enjoying the plaza at that time. And I'm worried that some of the unhoused people will be creating a line to use that restroom. And I think we need two separate places for this bathroom. because you don't want all the unhoused people going there at 10 o'clock at night to do their thing and get ready for bed when you're having people out there partying and having fun in the plaza. So we need to think about that and the fact that the Broadway Plaza is in the future pretty much, and we need something now. There are those porta-potties. You can put them on a flatbed, and you can drive them to where you need them, maybe by the blue lights that we have for safety, something like that. But I think we could buy several of those for one Portland loo. And not that the Portland loo is bad. It's amazing. It's fantastic and probably takes less of our – employees time. But I think that it's, you know, we need it sooner than than the Broadway Plaza. And we need to decide if we want just one, you know, you just add one place, everybody's going to go there. And it's going to be, you know, crowded.

Yeah, I guess my question and Kayla, if you're still online, if you could maybe help me out, but If we were to say have a Portland new tomorrow and install it on Broadway right in the middle of the median, I think we're doing that right. But if we were to do something like that with how it's modular and what would be the process or is it possible to then take it down and move it once we if we did go forward with the Broadway Plaza project as example. And I'm assuming if we're already doing a large project down there, we could then plan ahead for where we would want sewer power and things like that. So. Caleb, maybe the answer, how easy would it be to essentially take it down and then put it back up, or is that even possible?

Yeah, absolutely. So how it works is there will be a concrete pad that will be prepped by the start of the restroom before that restroom is delivered, where we will send an installation template. That template will be placed on that pad, and it'll locate the exact location where those utilities need to be stubbed up to match the Portland loop. So the restroom is 6,000 pounds, so it will need to be picked up by a crane and placed on that installation location where the final utility connections are made. So with that being said, in order to move it, you would need to remove those utility connections, and you would have to have a crane pick up that restroom, place it on a flatbed truck, drive it to its new location. and then you would redo that exact same process. So it is something that is possible. It's not impossible. It is meant to be more of a permanent public restroom, but there have been cities that have relocated their Portland Lube before, so it is something that has been done.

Yeah, and another option is also that it is located near the alley, maybe between Wichita and Market, and then as not part of the that Broadway Plaza. And then the grant funding, whatever we get for the Broadway Plaza would favor another one that would be located maybe near her in that site, because otherwise you have people walking across Bushcock, which is a real busy street.

I would recommend that it be somewhere where it's really open. I think it'll make a lot less vandalism, you know, if it is where, you know, people are driving by. I don't know if we have access to the parking lot that's by the drugstore that got closed. Harper Drug, I guess it was called. Yeah, that's ours. So if that parking lot is ours, would that be a good place to locate it? It's kind of central.

I think so, in my opinion, but we did have a board that burned down a couple times.

Yeah. And Deb may not know about that, but we do have a lot of problems with vandalism with our portable bathrooms. I think the more, I know there was one over there, and there was one in front of the library, and they do get vandalized. It's really sad because people need a bathroom.

They can burn this one down.

I don't think they can burn that one down.

I can say I'm very pro to these loos, and I'm okay with a couple of them. Honestly, Broadway Plaza would be a great one. But more like the poor hands closet.

Yeah, the gateway area.

Yeah, that's wait. That's what I should hear.

Anyway.

Yeah, we can. Yeah, we can hear you.

Yeah, that's what I was gonna suggest is across the alleyway from the Tesla charging station and I believe we own the piece property that we fit it nicely place to start. It's a perfect view where that's can't really get a more visible area than that spot right there where people are coming into town will constantly be in view of it. It's also a good welcoming sign to have a nice restroom as you come into town.

The only thing that I'd like to point out is that I've seen the schematic that of all the little parts and things and they don't put it together for you. It would be on our guys. So, you know, we can do anything. I do. But it's just, it may take, you know, a while. And I think Caleb said it would be approximately 90 days before we got one. So we would have time to do the cement platform and everything. But I just wanted to let everybody know that it's a lot of little teeny tiny parts and a lot of wiring and stuff that goes into it.

It comes first average.

I'm just, I think Caleb might want to respond to that.

Sorry, sorry, go ahead. I just wanted to, I'm just kind of listening to all the bits and pieces, and I think this is one of the things that came up in EDAC too when we were talking about this is maybe, again, because the brother and father is going to take a while, and while I think a lot of people agree that that's a good thing to have there, it might be a good idea to get one and put it somewhere else. That gives us a chance to really evaluate whether this works for us or not. And a lot of the other cities that have used this started off getting one and have all gone and gotten another one because they really liked the way it worked for them. And so, you know, getting one to start with, putting it in, I really like the idea of putting it by the Tesla, and then we can test it out. And if it works great, then we look at getting another one, put a puzzle when it's ready.

Is there anybody else? Just about one location?

Which location?

By the Tesla? By the Tesla, yeah.

The more open, the better. Yeah. It's a pretty wide open area.

It's still basically downtown.

And when people are charging their cars, they can.

Caleb, did you have something to say?

Yeah, just wanted to mention. So the restroom does come fully assembled and pre-tested delivered to you. So the only work that would need to be done on your end is that groundwork of preparing the concrete pad and stubbing up the utilities. And so it's very simple installation when that restroom is delivered to you, as I stated, just placed with a crane on that prep location, make those final utility connections. And then something else I wanted to mention, because I remember someone mentioning it fitting in with the city. So a lot of other cities love to add vinyl wrapping to the restroom. So this allows you to put advertising, maybe some art. But it can allow the Portland Lou to fit more of a specific aesthetic you're looking for and make it more fitting to your location. And so that's something that can be very helpful as well.

How does that vinyl wrapping stand up to graffiti and things like that?

Yeah, so the vinyl wrapping actually adds an extra layer of protectant. I kind of like to compare it to like your phone screen protector. I mean, you're adding a whole nother layer around that restroom that'll be extra protective from scratches and scuffs and different vandalism.

Yeah, go ahead. You can go, Taylor. Oh, perfect. Since we're just talking about the bathrooms, I will say I think we have better things to spend our money on personally. We have nothing to do in Aberdeen. People, tourists aren't going to stop here to use this prison-grade bathroom, I think. All of our bathrooms we have now are already closed. No one's going to clean them. Volunteers, they will clean them for a period of time. Then they're going to get tired of cleaning the needles and things in them. I guarantee people will try to start fires in the sinks or stuff the toilets and try to make a fire in the toilet or even flush their needles down the toilet. I think we have better things to worry about than a Portland loo. Or if you guys really want a bathroom, maybe partner with the college to see if they will build it for cheaper and use our students that we have here. That's all I have to say.

Thank you.

I think that's called giving up and you shouldn't give up. We need about downtown. You're picking up people matter every day. We've given back half of our maintenance budget for capital permit projects. This is gonna increase that. We're not gonna be able to do it the way budget. There's gonna need to be more, because even though it cleans up easy, they're cleaning up two or three times every single day. But do nothing is just giving up, and we can't do that. So thank you both.

I think it's tragic when someone burns down a port-a-potty. The psychology behind wanting to stop someone from using a cotton is really... I think it's a big failure to be having caught these people who have burned down these port-a-pots.

I just wanted to answer the question about how we're going to pay for it. So EDAC has been charged with finding things that we can use one-time funds to pay for. The money that we have, that we've all been looking at through all of our budgeting process and the sitting there that we cannot use for ongoing costs, we can only use for one-time expenses. And so all of the things that EDAC has been looking at, including restrooms, are designed to be paid for out of those funds.

And then I have one question. So we're putting in Portland, Lou, and you were saying that there's, you guys have been cleaning up people matter everywhere. I don't really see a lot of the people running six, seven blocks to use it when they're just going to go right there. You know what I mean?

But if we have something they can use, so we discussed this at that meeting that you weren't able to go to because you had to work. But there's someone that they caught 15 times on camera going to the bathroom in front of businesses. If we have a bathroom that they can use that's available 24-7, then I think the police can take action because there is somewhere they can go. It does matter the time of day. During the day, there are places they can go, like the library or other places, but At night, there isn't. So I think that that would give the police an option to bring some charges, but someone who's chronically doing that when there is something they could use. I would suggest having the camera by it, the portable camera, so we can catch people that might vandalize it. And I would like the police to let us know what successes they've had with those cameras as far as catching people doing things and what they've been able to do to bring people to justice. I'm really interested in that. Can they do that for us, Mayor?

Yeah, I would be interested.

Yeah, yeah, thank you.

One more. Yeah, go ahead. Caleb, did I read that there was some sort of screen for the toilet to keep big items from going down or something?

There's not a screen, but there is a four-inch cast iron receiver in the plumbing closet. So that is a big void that allows you to open up and grab that item that was flushed down the toilet that shouldn't have been before it gets too late.

And I think we could put a needle, maybe we could put a little needle thing there that they could drop their needles in, their disposal. All right, so I'm just going to be straight up.

It seems like we're building a bathroom and we have to babysit people to use the bathroom. If we need to like wash them, use the bathroom, like walk in to make sure they're actually using it, we shouldn't have to do that. You know, I get people have things to do and there's multiple places that I feel like they could do like Walmart has public bathrooms and things like that. They could easily go there. I don't think we should have to babysit people to use this. Prison grade bathroom with a heated toilet roll and all that stuff.

I just like to comment that. So before I was mayor, I used to put on this event downtown and. to clean the smell of urine and feces out of the alleys was a major undertaking. And then we do it the week before the event, and we have to do it again the day of the event because it's a horrific event. They just don't have anywhere to go, and at night, I think, kind of thinking that there's still going to be a problem, but at least we have the option to say, this is where you have to go, and if you do it again, we're going to get you.

Yeah. And I think we need services to kind of encourage them to use the bathroom because they are here in the city and we need their cooperation. And I've even seen them, you know, picking up garbage. They, you know, DJ hands them plastic bags and they're out there picking up the garbage. You're going to have your occasional mentally ill person who's just there. They don't function well. But I think I would really enjoy or appreciate the services, just doing a reach out and saying, we're providing this, please use it. and see if we get cooperation.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I, to some extent, agree with our other student representative. At the same time, a number one complaint I've heard from students is human feces in our streets. And I think Maybe even if we don't go with the Portland Mood Project, bathrooms are important, and it's definitely something we need just as much as we need activities and whatnot.

I still think having a Portland Mood, I mean, it's great to have a bathroom out there. I agree with that. But I don't see it. detouring people from using the streets. I really don't. The one gentleman that was caught 15 times on camera, getting caught 15 times didn't even...

There's no... I don't think that they're taking any action, Mel. You know, and that's kind of on us because we don't have a bathroom. You know, I did mention, you know, what time of day is happening because I think that that matters, but I do think there needs to be a recourse. If there's not a recourse, you're right, you cannot fix the problem.

If there isn't A repercussion for the action. Yeah, it's going to continue. But having a portal loop isn't going to solve all the problems. It's still going to be there.

Yeah, just one is not going to solve the problems, I think, but we can't put six of them in today, so I'm getting one as a start and then I'm a firm believer that we need to not. take away our good things in our community so that because of a few crazies out there that might mess it up. My thing is maybe we'll need more bathrooms down the line, but we won't know that until we put one in as a start. But, you know, with my building downtown, you know, I complained for years So I think that's the way the bathrooms get one in to start. And then if we finally need more because the problem still exists, that's something else we can deal with down the line. That's just my opinion.

Doug, I did discuss this with Ruth when our group discussed the bathrooms. Port Angeles has one, and I asked Ruth to check to see if there was a huge improvement. And in Port Angeles with their, you know, Portland, Lou, if things improved and she's not here tonight. So I'm not sure that she was able to check with their city administrator, but I'd like to, you know, maybe check with some of these cities that have it. and see if there has been an improvement in their public.

I went to work or went to Port Angeles and we talked to their mayor and we stood there right out by the port of the moon, watched the people come and going. It was really busy.

Yeah.

People using a lot of people used it.

But I think their sanitation could definitely tell us, hey, this really made a difference for us. You know, so I think we could get a report that would, you know, make us all feel like it's worth the investment, you know, to know that it would make a difference.

We talked to them again.

Caleb has something to say.

Yes, sir.

Yeah, I was just going to say, I'd be happy to provide references to other cities that we've worked with locally. Eugene and Port Angeles, like you're saying, Seattle, there's a handful of locations in the area and people that would be happy to speak with any of you to provide a little feedback on their experiences.

I wouldn't mind calling people. So if he could get that information to me, I'd do the legwork. Yeah.

We also have Councilmember Gakin online who'd like to say something.

Yeah.

I kind of just wanted to respond to Justin and let him know what just kind of play devil's advocate for him. I don't know if you know or not, but my wife works downtown. And She says on average, there'll be 10 couples that come from the Tesla station on foot. They're looking for a restroom. And then there'll be another three or four campers that'll pull up in the bus, like where the buses pull in. They shall have to tell them, sorry, you have to move your thing. And they'll be like, sorry, I have to pee. And then there'll be, she says in the peaks time in the summer, there'll be on top of that, there'll be another 15 campers. sets of backpackers, like foreigners that barely speak the languages. They're looking for a restroom. I mean, that's 45 people a day that are coming through our city that without that point of view or being in that position, I wouldn't know that if she didn't, you know, if my wife didn't work there. But there is a lot of people that come to our city and they have nowhere to go. And if we're going to invite people here, we have to at least give them somewhere to go to the bathroom.

Thank you. Any other discussions?

like to move this forward and actually look into placing one down at the gateway closet so um more like the tesla station yeah yeah yeah okay go ahead do you not know where the board house is that's across the street yeah

We might like to keep that property.

But yes, I would like to entertain that motion.

So do you want the cost for installing the Portland Moon at the Tesla station or in that area?

I would second that. We can get the information we need.

Okay. It's been first and second. Is there any more discussion on this? Can I say one thing?

Yeah. So it sounds like you guys all want a bathroom. Please just look into maybe having the college kids build it. They're right there. They have a state-of-the-art welding class and plumbing and all that. Maybe they can build it cheaper, and then their work is displayed on our streets. So I would really like you guys to look into that before – Portland, Lou is the final say. I'm calling college. Go ahead.

I just want to say we're going to be asking for, you know, hard numbers. We probably want to be able to tell them. I mean, there's a lot of additional things on here. And which one, which of these items do we feel are important enough that we want to include in that quote for the city?

I don't know. Well, I don't know that we all have that. So we'd have to come back with that. But are we okay? Are you okay to go ahead with this?

Yeah, I just think we need to agree on what we want, you know, whether we want solar power, whether we want the sharps containers, or we want the hand wash stations, because those are all additional costs.

Okay.

Are you okay with looking into this, Rick? how much it would cost to install a Portland blue at the Tesla. No, I mean, not right now, but come back to this with that. Yeah.

Well, let's see what the requirements are. That's why you have a location. Because that's what's going to determine how much ground we have to open up to get to a payment. At least they tell you a six, seven, seven.

Right. I thought it was an eight.

What size line do you need for sewer?

It's a four-inch sewer line. Oh.

That won't work here. People flush way too many bath tanks and that just clogs up our sewer lines. We'd have to have a bigger line or a soap and septic holding tank or something that our crews could take.

Yeah, he says it does have a holding tank.

Yes, sir.

Yeah, if it needs to connect to a septic tank or a leach field, some other alternative, we're glad to work with you. If there's any concerns about the utility connections, feel free to reach out to me and we'll come up with a solution to make it work for you.

Okay, all in favor of having... Should we do it?

Please hold my hand up. I'm very uncomfortable with this. We don't have answers or knowledge by public works. This feels like a rush, even though it sounds like a great idea. And we're voting for hundreds of thousands of dollars of spend that we really haven't done the work we need to do going forward.

So we're not voting to spend. We're just voting to have them look into how much it would cost to install one at the

Okay, are we clear on that that we're not buying one or spot or authorizing any expense? Are we clear on that? Yeah. All right. The motion is that way.

The motion is to move forward with a cost estimate near the Tesla station for important.

Thank you all in favor.

Do we want to do everybody? Francie, I have one more question.

Okay, go ahead. I just wanted to ask Rick, if we were had to do a septic system, would it have to be above ground with our location?

We're not doing a septic system. That's the only thing about the plumbing.

Yeah, we would only be doing a septic system if we didn't have plumbing, but we have plumbing. So we'll go into our system.

So geez, Doug is going to handle authority.

I don't. I'm not going to. Okay. i thought caleb said it only attached to a septic system um you know he said it could attach to us if we needed to but we don't it has its own holding tank inside of it to collect genes and whatever odd stuff people flush down there so we can remove it before it goes down and in the drain all in favor

Francie? Yes. Gakin?

Yes.

Hodgkin?

Yes.

Hubbard?

Yes.

Moynihan?

Yes.

Nipper?

Yes.

Fredo?

Yes. Radjic? Yes.

Shaw?

Yes.

Taylor?

Yes.

Wilson? Yes. Okay. It passes with 11 yeses.

Thank you very much. Okay, next.

I have a motion for a proclamation recognizing and celebrating the month of June 2026 as Student Recognition Month.

Second. And seconded by Councilperson Nipper for a proclamation recognizing and celebrating the month of June 2026 as Student Recognition Month. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Right passes. Would you like me to read the proclamation? I'll say one thing real quick. Go ahead.

I just want to say I wrote up this whole proclamation. Just throw that out there.

Office of the Mayor, City of Aberdeen and Proclamation. Whereas Aberdeen students work to better themselves and the community they live in every day. And whereas whether at school or work, our students are essential for moving Aberdeen in a positive direction. And whereas students embody school and spirit and keep the spirit, identity and traditions music, education, community service, volunteerism, and alumni legacies. And whereas students are dedicated, energetic, hopeful, and intentional nearly year-round to gain education, help grow the skills they need to be future leaders in Aberdeen. And whereas June highlights all students across Aberdeen and their accomplishments as Some will graduate and move closer to meeting their goals, achieving greatness. And whereas the City of Aberdeen values the work students displayed and their desires to gain an education here in Aberdeen, and whereas the City of Aberdeen also recognizes that students are vital to our community. Now, therefore, I, Douglas, or Mayor of the City of Aberdeen and the State of Washington, hereby recognize the month of June and all students who attend school in Abadie who are graduating or moving up. In witness thereof, I herein to have set my hand and cause the seal of the city of Abadie to be fixed this 27th day of May, 2026. Thank you very much.

And finally we have a resolution Requesting city approval, approve the appointment of Glenn Remisky and Lindsay Thur. I apologize if I mispronounce that. To the Ethics Committee. I move that they accept this.

Second. Seconded by Councilperson Frenzy. All in favor of a request to the City Council. I'm sorry, is there any discussion? Yes.

I was just wondering how these individuals were selected.

They were welcome in.

Yeah, go ahead. They were the only two that applied. So there was three, but one that dropped out.

So this is the ethics thing that we put together last year on how we want the council to behave themselves.

Thank you guys for doing a wonderful job. Excellent. Okay, any more discussion? So all in favor request the City Council approve the resolution of the appointment of Glenn Bromisky and Lindsay Thurber to the Ethics Committee. Say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed? Thank you.

We've been talking about public restrooms for more than 35 years, and I think it's a good idea, but I think there's also this danger of ready, shoot, aim. I think that we really want to think about what I hear you talking about are two different demographics. You're talking about people that are defecating on the sidewalks and in front of doorways and people that are driving through town on their way to the beach. I think that you should be looking, perhaps, you should be looking at collaboration. I think this may be an opportunity to work with a big property owner who serves that population, someone like, say, CAP, and talk to them about this is a big problem, and can you help us solve this problem? And one of the other things that I wanted to suggest is if you do work with CAP, think about working with CAP and having them clean the bathrooms. Not CAP employees, but people who are homeless. People who are living on the streets or using them. And Margaret, Wednesday is your day. And three times a day, Margaret's going to go in there and make sure everything's squared away and Margaret gets paid for that. And I'm not going to make a mess in there because it's Margaret's day. And You know, it provides ownership. You know, people don't, they're just not going in there to take a dump. They have to go to the bathroom and they don't want to mess up, Margaret. You know, so I think there's some opportunity here for collaboration, maybe some outside the box thinking that could make this a better thing. Thanks.

Thank you. I mean, Glenn, we're missing the fourth word. Thank you for your support on the appointment to the ethics committee. April, I third one.

And Mayor, I'm certain to gain respect for you again. Or not too many mayors would go and clean a bathroom. This was the child that died, that was murdered. And this was a child who was murdered in our home. I didn't see a lot of you guys at this vigil. Family really needed support.

A child, four years old, murdered, murdered in our town, buried in a basement. People that did show to the vigil, it was a good turnout.

There was a lot of stories. There was a lot of tears. There was a lot of support for the family. The mother of this child was there. We need to start as, and I've been saying this when Simpson was here, we have haters. We have non-haters. We need to start sticking together as a community. Put the bullshit aside. And be a community again. And be there for each other. As for bathrooms, I agree and I don't agree. We need to deal with the bathroom situations that are going on in our city right now. Bam Bam Park, it's not just homeless people. that shit on the streets. I see it every day because the bathrooms are closed and the kids have nowhere to go. And so mommy and daddy take them around the corner on the bathroom and let them go. There's no hand washing over there. I go there and drop off a box of sanitizer. That's disgusting that somebody might have to go pee and guys have to hold their thing and they have nowhere to wash. Because we don't have any bathrooms. That needs to change. And you were saying that we just don't have the budget for it. So let's, you guys, put your heads together and find the budget to get bathrooms around town where people don't have to do their business in front of a bathroom.

you see morrison award one i'm just going to beat a dead horse again so i want to say congratulations to glenn minsky and lindsey here on their um successful you know putting in our applications and getting on the ethics committee but by councilman prego's on logic you know when asked if you know, what was the qualifications for choosing them or whatever. And you guys should be getting their applications in your packets. Anyway, that was requested by council a couple of years ago to have the information for all the applicants come through so that you guys know who you're selecting. There was three vacancies for the utility rate advisory committee and three applicants that I'm aware of from the relevant words and we still haven't heard anything. I'm really eager to get started. by, you know, that logic, those three applicants, myself included, should be on that committee also. Hope to hear from you guys soon.

Thank you. Any other public comments? All right.

Seeing none, what? Go to the order? Yeah, let's go to the order.

Can we take a moment of silence? Yeah.

Or hate? Thank you. Anything else? Yes.

I just wanted to address our student council representatives and this will be their last meeting, but that leaves us without representation all the way through to September. And so I wanted to see if there was any way that we could, if they're so willing, just keep them on through the summer.

Second, the motion.

It's a motion. Yes. Would you be willing, Justin? Yeah. Okay. Would you be willing?

Yes. I'm just going to person a second to keep the student council representatives on throughout the summer as long as they choose. All in favor? Aye.

Aye.

Opposed? Thank you. Opposed? All right. Thank you. Appreciate that. Welcome back.

Actually, I'm asking about the price of dog and cat licenses and pet license fees. And I guess they haven't been checked into for quite a time. And I know that it's, you know, pennies or whatever, just to get more money coming in. But since it's been so long since anybody's checked, I thought that might be a good idea for us to look into the price of the yearly tag and that kind of thing that hasn't been increased.

I don't believe it's a yearly tag. I think it's lifetime.

You can choose. You can buy. There's either yearly ones or lifetime ones. It depends.

Yeah, we can look into that. Anything else? I just have one thing. The Aberdeen Art Center has been in Aberdeen serving our community for 10 years as of June 5th. And we were having a street party that day with live music from 5 till 9. And that will be our 121st Friday in a row that we put on for our community at our expense. So you're all welcome to come if you pre. And if you don't want to come to the art center, the downtown is having an art walk through this summer. And that will be, I'm thinking, 6 to 8. businesses also having hard and light music and hopefully some refreshments for free. So that's if you're interested. One other thing to wearable art show in Ocean Shores is the 6th. So get your tickets early because they'll sell out and your mayor will be in that show again. All right. Anything else? Yes.

If you know anybody graduating from Harbor Learning Center, because their graduation is the day before Aberdeen or Aberdeen High School, please, both graduations are at Stewart Field, come support the students who are graduating. Harbor High doesn't get a lot of recognition, so I would really appreciate if I saw some people there kind of showing their support for our students that are graduating. So we've got probably about 70 kids graduating. What day is that again? Next Thursday.

Thursday.

And their graduation's at 6 p.m.

13-6. All right. I guess I'll accept a motion to adjourn. All in favor?

Aye.

All right. Thank you, everybody, for coming. We appreciate you giving us your time.