Board of Supervisors - Regular Meeting

Thursday, September 3, 2026

Consultants presented a long-term facility plan for the school division, highlighting the need for significant renovations and new construction due to aging buildings and inadequate classroom sizes, particularly in secondary schools. The discussion also touched upon funding strategies, including a potential sales tax referendum.

About this meeting

Government Body
Board of Supervisors
Meeting Type
Board Of Supervisors
Location
York County, VA
Meeting Date
September 3, 2026

Transcript

135 sections

0:06 – 15:22Speaker 3

I'm sorry. Thank you, Mr. Holroyd. Board members, as you know, I'm afraid to say this, but in my last meeting with the Supervisors, the county staff had asked us to move from 6-year-old funding to 15-year-old funding. We agreed to this long period of time, because we couldn't see it with the naked eye. When new methods are introduced after 6 years, it seems like a miracle. But time is running out, and the cost of replacing the old works is increasing. Even then, it continues to be part of the process. If we move forward with the proposed initiative, we believe that it is a good idea to bring a third party to pay for our facilities and give benefits. Thus, in January, funding was approved. In March, we signed an agreement with HVA Architects, Standec and Associates. A part of the HVA plan was to create a long-term health plan for the school division to be implemented. Last time, when I was with you, I shared with you the six fundamental issues that we need to address. Now we have the last good news. So I think it is important to put things in the right order before listening to the important things in the report on both the boards and on the sides. First, you are going to hear from consultants about the good news for the next 15 years. From 6 years to 15 years, I feel it is too much. Forgive me, this is a problem in project development and recruitment. Secondly, the report is not in line with the old data and the project's endowments. But we all know that things will change over time. The other methods may change depending on the circumstances. I would like to make it clear that we started this study a long time ago to let you know that the counties in Virginia have achieved 100% sales in the last few years. Tonight, we are taking a look at some of our regular activities. We have arrived at this meeting with complete clarity on what our consultant is reporting. In addition, to fully investigate all the possibilities, we may have to discuss our position in 1993. It prevents us from considering some possibilities. Especially the most important one is that we have to go to another direction related to the Middle-Navigranath to Queens. I would like to remind you of some of the things that we have done with the boards and the members of the board. The next step is a recommendation. As we always do, we will continue to do so. The school division staff will know our needs and make sure that we meet their needs. After working together with the county staff on financial and potential issues, we will submit three recommendations to the board. The school board will decide whether our primary CIP members will be accepted or not. After that, we will submit the board to the Supervisors as a funding agency that accepts the board. They decide the amount and time of funding. In that process, we need to know what is the share of each of us. Finally, let me remind you one more thing. We are not taking any decisions tonight. So, until the election is over, I urge everyone to keep their questions to themselves. We will only take time to answer the questions about the behavior of consultants who are outside tonight. In the coming months, the division will take the final decision on how to move forward with the Valor Mill plans for Queens. We have spent a lot of money on the school board and how much money the supervisors are going to pay. So, I would like to introduce the HVA Architects, Lauren Perry and the Sturts & Company, David Sturts. Thank you. Shubha Sayanam. Shubha Sayanam. Thank you for having us here. We want to carry out an event that lasts for about 25 to 30 minutes. We hope this will be of interest to everyone. Doctor, as Karol said, when we reach the end, we are trying to make it clear what the essence of this story and the details are. We are making sure that it will take a lot of time to clarify the final questions, answers and discussions. Okay. First, we look at the past and talk about it. What do we see in these data? How did we test these data? What did we test? What does it tell us? We are going to test one part of it. The main part of it is the price of the conditions of the buildings. We are testing each main principle. We are testing the expected time and the remaining usage time according to the current situation. When the time is over, how much will it cost to rebuild it? When we add them all together, we can understand what is the most useful method for the long-term protection of a property. We will talk about the things you do to make the most of each of these properties. We will show you in the beginning how much you have done it. We will also tell you how your principals use 50 properties of today's distribution. There are many ways to show this, and it is definitely their advantage. Let's see how this affects auction development and what is planned according to the CIP or Capital Improvement Plan. We will talk about how to move forward and how to make a change. What does that mean? How does data help us? Does it lead us to our aspirations and to our final growth? Before I get into this, I have done this a few times. In my professional life, I have done this work in about 100 different divisions, counties and districts across the country. First tell me what you are going to say. Then tell me. Finally, remind me what you said. This is my way. We are going to say that you have saved enough money to change your plans at any time. You have done a lot in the matter of the plans made in the middle of the 50s. When the same process continues, there will be a period when the financial profits will decrease, because the needs will increase. 70, 75, 80-year-olds in a family are not like the families in this historical part of the world. They were meant to last for hundreds of years. That's not how the baby boom school families were made. They were estimated to be 50 to 60 years old, but no one has done that much research because families don't ask for money in board meetings. That's why they don't get as much attention as they should. For a 50, 60, or 60-year-old wooden building, at least two-thirds of its reconstruction cost has to be guaranteed to maintain its shape and shape every year. No one does this. Thus, even after 60, 70, or 80 years, you increase the deferred maintenance, that is, things that should have been included in the two-thirds schedule, but are not guaranteed. Then you pay attention to other factors. Okay, so what we are saying is that you have done it very well. In most of your marriages, especially in the secondary side, we are making a different approach. That is, instead of re-establishing the marriage, start re-establishing the marriage. That's why the Queen's Way is being discussed. Okay, next. The history of opportunities. Okay, this chart shows a picture of your portfolio. Here are your schools. It shows the size of the construction. The size of the construction and the size of the entire building is shown in this diagram. So, here are the seven major buildings built in your 52 years. 184,000 square feet. 1954, 59, 61, 62, 70, 77, 78, 2006. If you look at the bottom of this line, you can see when the construction started. We used to conduct small crosswalks in the past. This line is your Grafton Line. This is the last school you built. On the right side, you can see a lot of small alleys that you have built since 1996. So, in the view, your campuses are a collection of small buildings. This is an economical way to meet your needs. Hey, we need a gym. Hey, we need a theatre. Hey, we need more classrooms. At that time, after 30 years, their needs start to come together. When all those small things come up on the campus, you become like playing games. Then you have more rules than one rule. These have pros and cons. Okay, but if you look at the chart, this is the description of your school portfolio. Next. This is Prashamsa, one part of Prashamsa. When we examined the history of those institutions, we expected that within the next 10 years, there would be more than 400 million cases. On the ground, we saw 262 million. We conducted a direct survey. Lawrence and I, along with two of our co-operators, tested boilers, HVAC, electric, floors, ceilings, lighting, and everything. We did a thorough survey. We did a direct survey on the ground. How long does it take for this system to be in use? Since you pay special attention to these rules in many cases, it lasts longer than usual. That's why it's good. You are using each money carefully in these cases. It has a benefit. Next slide. Let's move on. This is the slide that leads to the matter. This is a beautiful graph created by Mike Roth, a partner of Lawrence. It shows a facility condition index. This is the cost to deal with all the shortcomings within a certain period of time. For most projects, I calculate 10 years as a time limit, and calculate it with the cost of renewing the contract. For example, if $100 million is spent to build a building and $50 million is needed within the next 10 years, that building will have 50% of the FCI. The cost of rebuilding the building will be reduced. Okay, if you are building a building, then when we talk about innovation, we can come to that. You are conducting a big innovation. You are adopting it like the Seaford innovation, right? We calculated how much each unit would cost to work with David and the team. 80% of the cost of building a new school. Up to the bottom line. You take that building, put it upside down, and remove everything that is not secured. Then you renovate it. This is about 3 quarters or 80% of the cost of building a new building. Most of the time, every day, most of the time, everywhere. That's why, when I have 80% FCI, it's good to do it like Seaford. It's a great innovation. Because if I try to improve everything one by one, the same amount that is spent on renewing the entire industry will also be spent on me. So, this is the financial side of how to use an FCI in a situation. So, when you get close to that dust, you start thinking, am I in a network or am I just doing a side job? What is this logic? When a relationship is broken, from 20 to 25 years, it is time to change the windows and windows. If you are reducing the FCI while you are operating, then other things that are not a problem today may be appearing in the West. But in the next 40, 45, 50 years, electrical, HVAC, as well as other MEP needs are rising. They have more life. They are some of them. Oh, also, now you will have to make the top right again. Well, okay, then that FCI will rise. Now you are doing the main MVP jobs and the main HVAC jobs again. That's over. The AFCI is very low. It will rise slowly for the next 25 years. I agree to this, but you will be standing at a high level. Then you do it. That's how that chakra is formed. That's how you get to that magical 80th year. Then you run that big business. If you do it again, now you only need the shell of your property. The 50-year-old property can last up to 70 years. Now it has reached 80 years. You do a lot of work and take things with you. Then other needs also begin to come. Now you are moving to the next stage. Now you are in a cloud of low income. This method, which has been used again and again, is now not profitable. Okay. You have a lot of bonds. Here. Okay. Where? Where? All this is not profitable. Instead, it feels good to build something new. I will tell you about the decision to build a new building instead of the cost of the construction.

15:22 – 15:50Speaker 1

I think that 80 years is not the only thing to be taken into account. Although we see that the buildings will reach this state when they are 80 years old, 80% of their life will be left. Some buildings will be good or bad depending on the age. That's why everything doesn't have to change when it's 80 years old. This building will have various parts in it. That's right. Is this a tombstone for the church?

15:51 – 16:04Speaker 3

Are you building a stone tombstone? Or is it a stone tombstone that has been used for a long time? Okay, next question.

16:04 – 16:20Speaker 2

A small question. Is it the same as Grafton and Seaford? Grafton was completely reconstructed after the fire. Is that 80% of your calculation? I don't need the calculations of Grafton after the fire, but if I'm not mistaken, it was a complete reconstruction.

16:28 – 17:08Speaker 3

No, it was not a complete reconstruction. It was an air-conditioning system. At that time, it was only in the electrical room. The damage caused by the smoke had to be repaired. That's it. Insurance covered it. Insurance covered a lot. There was a doubt whether Grafton had reconstructed it like Seaford. I wasn't greedy. Forgive me, I thought it was about the new construction of the 906. But no, after that small fire, both are two different things. Yes, you know about Seaford, right? Thank you. Did you have insurance with coverage? Seaford was a great innovation and it was on the rise. Okay.

17:08Speaker 2

Is this chart just an example or is this actually a county data?

17:13 – 17:37Speaker 3

Yes, sir, that's just an example. This is a common fact. I've seen it everywhere. especially the 40, 50, 60, 70, 80-year-old buildings. The WPA or WPA buildings in the 1920s are a little different. Lauren will talk a little bit about our Facility Condition Assessment. You will understand how we did it, what we examined, and how it was spent from the inspections.

17:50 – 20:09Speaker 1

Here are the details of the things we examined. Since there are a lot of details in this, I will explain them one by one. We conducted the Facility Condition Assessment, or FCA, and examined each facility and made it available for each year. For example, Bethlehem Manor is here. In fact, there are four facilities in Bethlehem Manor. It is part of the building that was built from 1960 to 1963. Therefore, we are investigating whether it is an addition built in a certain year or if it is an important innovation. When we say important innovation, we mean to completely change the roof replacement, new HVAC, HVAC, new electrical, and new finishing as mentioned by David. Facility Condition Assessments that we conduct only inspect the physical condition of the building. This does not say about the size or size of the rooms or the atmosphere you need in a classroom. This only says about the physical condition of the building. From Puja to Anju, we scored scores for both the sisters and the other sisters in each marriage. Pooja is the most important thing to pay attention to. That is, things that need to be changed within 5 years or yesterday itself. 5 is a very high condition. You don't have to worry about this for about 25 years. So we don't recommend it for this auspicious time. When we conducted the test at the place, we got two very helpful details. The first of which was the score that made the age average. So you can see it on the left side. In the case of roofing facilities, the age of Bethel Manor is 5. But we also had a client score, that is, one score given by the York County School Department. Using those details, we understand that even if the roof is new, it has some problems. There may be a gap or the other side of the fence may not be in the right condition.

20:14 – 20:44Speaker 3

That's why we use field scores. Let me go back for a minute. This is just a reference point. The need for that 400 million is from the age-related statistics. Some institutions had district or division scores. We used that as a reference. They were just instructions for us. We will continue to say, using our observations and these details in the field, we will make the things we see and talk about principles and statistics, and give three, two, or four scores for this. That's how the final score is determined.

20:44 – 22:25Speaker 1

Yes, thank you. That's why I'm saying it again. There are a lot of numbers on this screen. These are the scores we actually gave. As David said, when we examine each place and its parts, we will look at the score and client score that makes the age average, and then we will increase or decrease the score according to what we see. If the score is 1 with the age of a well-developed system, even if it is old, but if there is no water leakage or damage, we will raise it to 2. Therefore, the duration of it can be extended a little more. Otherwise, the score may be 3 in terms of finishing, but we will have to change it because there is a good range in that range. Sometimes it can be used for locker rooms or for people who need physical education. So we saw more than we expected. So let's increase it to two. Yes, we have prepared a big chart with the prices for each part of the building. So, all these details can be seen in the FCI index, which is the overall facility condition index, with yellow bars at the top of the middle part. It is an average score. It calculates the square feet as the base and the cost as the base. Obviously, the cost of ceiling tiles and ceilings is not the same. So we can't see both of them in the same way. We are waiting for that opportunity. So we have created an FCI within 10 years from now. That is the yellow bar on the left side. Then we have created one within 20 years from now. That is the part on the right side. So this is a suggestion for you to see how the situation of that contract will be in the next 10 years.

22:32Speaker 3

Bethel Manor Elementary's FCI score is 23% in 10 years. 23%! 23% of its useful life span. So, it takes a 100% nod to the right.

22:39Speaker 1

That is, its useful life span ends. That is, in the next 10 years, it will use 23% of its useful life span. In the next 20 years, it will use 23% of its useful life span.

22:56 – 23:15Speaker 3

In other words, in the next 10 years, we estimate that 8.6 million will be needed. Some will be needed today, some in the next 5 years, and the rest in 6 to 10 years. We estimate that the cost of this is less than 37 million. Therefore, the cost of the cost of the compensation is almost 1 in 4, so the FCI is also almost 1 in 4. You can understand that. It is meaningful.

23:27 – 23:45Speaker 1

Then in some cases, if the entire lifespan of major subsystems ends, we will not change the value of a contract. It is not financially profitable at all. Therefore, when contracts reach 80 to 90%, we have to go back to the graph we first saw and make a decision.

23:51 – 24:02Speaker 3

You can see it on the right. Here, the cracks or gaps can be seen in the HVA model from Pooja to 2. This shows what will happen in the next 10 years. This is 418 billion that we expected through construction. Most of it is less than we expected, but some of it is about the same.

24:12 – 24:46Speaker 1

If we look at the important things, what we expected and what we saw in reality has a limit and what we saw in reality was less. Therefore, you have done a very good job in handling things in advance. If there is any problem anywhere, it is resolved before it reaches the top insulation. You are not taking things too far. That's why you are doing very well. In the next 10 years, we have noticed that 40% or more of them are more protected. Then, after 20 years, it was 2014. So, is this before the current funding of the TAB? Yes, right. So, when the plan is completed, the TAB will be like Bruton.

25:00 – 25:21Speaker 3

That's something I have to ask you. So, if we run a complete implementation in TAB, yes, that's right. How do you think it will change? Yes, that's right. We are building the same building at the same time. That's right. You can see the FCI according to that. It will decrease because all those problems are solved. Yes, that's why we are doing HVAC things in Bruton now. We have fixed the next one.

25:22Speaker 2

Bruton and TAB are the same building, but they were built six years apart.

25:29Speaker 3

Yes, that's right. That's why I asked you earlier. Okay, that's it.

25:32 – 26:24Speaker 1

Yes, this is a great way to make it clear that the security you run in Taab High School will turn it into Bruton. We made the things we saw there the basis of the price. We did not want to discuss things that could happen or not, or things that could change the design. So when we examined the buildings, we only looked at the things we saw directly. So if you look again, when you come to the actual chart like Taab High School or Queen's Middle School, you will reach that 80% facility condition. That's where the rate of relocation and renewal of buildings decreases. So even if you spend a lot of money on it, it will only reach your facility condition 50% limit. That's an example.

26:32 – 31:23Speaker 2

In another experiment, the FCA, FCE, and Condition data shown by Lauren were only shown in one condition. But we examined the rest and the way it worked. I will tell you how the three different measurements we used did it. Is that correct? So, the first is an inspection. Today, if you are a new school or an elementary school employee, in most places, this is a common problem. In some places where school funding is possible, this is a serious problem. A student in an elementary school has 125 students. This is a great place for a child. Middle school has 150, high school has 175, career tech school has 225. Classrooms, resource rooms, cafeterias, bathrooms, offices, etc. This is a common place for each child. When children grow up, they do more things, so this place will grow. Chemistry labs, big gyms, local rooms, etc. Right? Yes. We examined all the floor plans in each room. How was it designed? Then he asked, what is the design of this school? SNC, SNC is my company. What is the design of its design like that of my brother's company? Then we said, okay, what will we get if we destroy that design completely? At Sharashiri Elementary School, a kid got 93 marks. This is the average size of the old corridor schools in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. One room, the same classrooms, the principal's office. Today, you will be able to access art, music, special education, computers, and other things. That is why I see that an elementary school today usually has about 125 square feet. That is how you use it. So, we examined your master schedules, how many children are in each room and in each class, in what size, and what you do. You use your numbers to calculate 126 square feet for a child. The reason why your principals use their buildings is because they use the classrooms, music, special education, and computer rooms designed for 23 children. I will show you where and how to calculate it. So, your buildings were designed in another era. They use your teachers and principals for today's needs. That is the most important thing here. You take an ordinary classroom. This is a music class. This is not designed for music. This is used for that. Because you need music. Okay. So, we examined 58 elementary classrooms that were used for other purposes other than education. Half of them are used as special education. Because when buildings were designed, there was no special education like today. The rest are mostly VPA, that is, Visual and Performing Arts, art, music, dance, computer science, and others. When I make a master plan, the things I pay attention to are used effectively and effectively. Do you have a lot of classrooms that only use storage? Do you have three teacher lounges? Do you have a lot of space? Or is this a bad situation? Are you full of food? Your elementary schools are completely full. As much as possible, we calculate it for each room and use it properly. What are the numbers in the boxes? According to the Master Schedule, the numbers that we have checked are the numbers of schools that return, and how normal classrooms use it for other needs. In Deyer Elementary School, the six rooms that were designed as normal classrooms are used as special education. Okay.

31:23Speaker 3

There are five rooms in McClure.

31:28Speaker 2

Okay, so why aren't there any general education guidelines in all schools? What does that mean? Is it different? Okay, so this is what it means.

31:35 – 31:59Speaker 3

There are 338 classrooms. Of those, 58 use things outside of general education. Out of those 58, half of them are special education, then art, computer, and marine biology. Okay, so that graph represents those 58. Yes, sir, that's right.

32:02 – 36:23Speaker 3

Okay, so the equation is adequacy. We tested the scale, capacity, and how it is shaped. How do we use it? Do we use it for the purpose of educating or helping children? The answer is yes. We have confirmed it. We have prepared each room and each schedule. The next thing we are investigating is the procedure. This is an obvious thing. What is a suitable school? We are not talking about the status of the institution here. We are not paying people. We are looking at the facilities. You can do this in a hundred different ways. I have been a part of projects that have been done in a hundred different ways in the language. To put it short, what is important? How big are your classrooms? Do you have a resource room for students who need more help or for those who are standing in line? If you have these two things, you have a big thing. Natural light is very good. There are many other things that can be added to the facility. Only basic things. How big are your classrooms? What kind of resource rooms do you have or do you have more facilities? Let's look at the size in two different ways. 1. Proper 700 square feet. Lauren will immediately show you why this is important through a visualization. But I have to say that I have been doing this job for years. Usually, if a classroom is below 700 square feet, we can ensure that only the lecture-style classes are held there. We are not trying to make anyone listen to what the children are saying, but we are trying to do something else there. We cannot operate in small groups. Especially when children grow up, it is more difficult. Another thing is that a child has 36 grades, so I divided the master schedule into each room. That is, what kind of facilities are provided in the class rooms? How many children are there in each grade in these class rooms? For a 36-year-old child, doing more than 23, 24, 25, or more things around the line is the most comfortable room for the child. The last thing we gave was the number of students in a resource room. How many resource rooms do you have? How many children are there in the resource rooms according to the date of the wedding? The more the number of students, the less the entrance to the resource room for the children. Okay. So we ran a complete ranking. The lowest number is the highest, and the highest number is the worst. Elementary schools, middle schools, high schools. The red line indicates the highest rank. You can see that there are more elementary schools in this region than your high schools and middle schools. There are some reasons for this. One, to put it clearly, is the bad design of the schools in front of the students. Do you know what that means? When kids are small kids in kindergarten, they have to walk. They are struggling a lot. That's why they need a part to talk in the room, a part for small groups, a place for everyone to get along, and a place to play with blocks. That's why they need at least 9,000 square feet for a room. It's better to get at least 1,000. But when kids grow up, they can sit in one place. Then we will get used to listening to them sitting in line. So, the rooms became small and the children grew up. Look here. You have old schools. After 96, you have not built any new schools. At that time, the students were in the logic of that pyramid. When the children grew up, the rooms became small. Okay. Next. No, stop, stop, forgive. Let's go back a little. The main thing here, if you look at the big picture, it's your middle and high schools. Approximately 57% of middle and high school class rooms only have a child below 36 square feet. 44% of rooms are below 700 square feet. There are very few resource rooms. Lauren.

36:32 – 38:51Speaker 1

I think a picture will help to show what this means. Because when we say 700 square feet or 800 square feet, many people do not understand the difference. So here we have shown four different facilities. All of them are class rooms with 24 different types. All of them have the same type of furniture. They are arranged in a small way. Below you can see your lecture room. Here, there is a difference between 650 Chathurisradi and 850 Chathurisradi. The reason why we use 650 and 700 Chathurisradi is because we have seen a lot of classrooms with 650 Chathurisradi limits. So, these differences are just to show you. Again, here is 650 Chathurisradi and here is 850 Chathurisradi. In the most traditional lecture style, this is very common in 650 Chathurisradi. This sin is touching the head of the student teacher. It is very difficult for the teacher to help any student or to answer questions or to walk around in the classroom. When you reach the bottom of 850 square feet, it feels more comfortable. When you change to small group activities, things get worse. So, when you build some secondary schools, we know that it is not a teacher's way of thinking or promoting people. Now, we know that it is not easy to work as a team or conduct many presentations or work as a team in your career. Therefore, it is very unlikely that you will be surrounded by small groups of 650 people. If you are a teacher, when you try to walk around in the classroom, you will have to walk between other people. If you reach 850 people at once, it is very difficult. There are more places to breathe. In such a situation, you may be able to work in reality. Then the other one is that this is only furniture. This is a hidden classroom. Add 24 children, 24 parts, 24 coats on the floor, and 24 water bottles to this. It really starts to attract such places. So, without feeling like this, I think this is a view that helps you see what the difference is. Most of your elementary schools are in the right size, because the population there is more than half.

38:51 – 52:47Speaker 3

Half of your secondary schools are not like that. So it starts. Now this is a head-shaking slide. This is to be referred later. But everything is closed in this. That is, if there is a high FCI for an old school with an incredible score, I will renew that school. I would like to use it for the next 20 or 30 years because I have spent a lot of money. But if the half-class rooms are small for the classes in the lecture area, I provide rooms that are not suitable for children with disabilities. Therefore, it helps when we agree on whether to renovate or rebuild. I am not going to read all of this. This is for you to refer to later. But which high school network planning area includes two elementary, middle, high schools, division-wide operations? How old is the structure of it, the year it was built, when it was last renovated, its original structure, the unadjustable rank, the lower levels are blue, good, the higher levels are red, bad, etc. How many classrooms are used for capacity-less needs? This is 58 in elementary schools, and the number of older people is significantly less. Yes, calculate the number of children in each class and the number of classes. This is also a basis for your master schedule and how you use the classrooms. How do your students use the classroom? I think this is very useful according to what we have observed for students. The classroom is designed for more children, but they have less space. Then there is the use of state-of-the-art education. Your elementary schools are full. There are few places in the middle schools. High schools are in good condition. I think it is better to use education from 85% to 95%. You have a lot of it. You have a little more space, but there is no problem. This is a small disadvantage. Then the case of high schools is the same. Bruton is in a very low position. We have talked about the 10-year period as FCI and FCI. The 10-year period is required. The 10-year period is required and you can get the FCI based on that. That's how you get FCI. The endowment for the next 5 years and the difference in the endowment for that period. Therefore, you will get a full picture in the school and grade levels. The main thing is that all elementary schools are designed in a way that is more than just using the land. If you use that land fully, you will have to avoid special education, art, and music. You are not going to do that. You can't see more land from elementary schools without changing the things you don't want to avoid. The status of buildings is from new to old. The current trend is to make it clear that your middle schools are high schools. They have the lowest adequacy scores. Queenslake, York Middle, and Taab High need more attention. You have a plan for Taab. We discuss plans for Queenslake. There is a big difference in the enrollment of low adequacy scores. You have middle schools. 586 7th class students. You also have a middle school with 1000 students. You can see a big space here. In terms of providing the students with the necessary facilities, different financial opportunities affect this. Okay, looking at the network map, I can speed up because it takes time. Bruton Elementary schools have been completed. McGruder has a slightly higher FCI. It is expected that their population will decrease. At the same time, there are more children in the next Waller Mill area. It is expected that their population will increase. If these two are counted together, there is only a difference of 80 children. If you count the growth of Magruder and Waller Mill, you will get more than 80 in 5 years. The monthly CIP, CIP, Waller Mill needs a reform. The highest FCI and FCI, the lowest standard scores, and a small middle school enrollment are for Queens. In the use of less Bruton, the highest FCI is also for this. Grafton and Grafton. Coventry Elementary Coventry is difficult. Coventry Elementary and Grafton are both full. At the same time, there is a lot of space in the dair. Even if 12-class rooms are used for other purposes, there is a little more space in the dair. Grafton Middle and High are the newest buildings. The middle school floor has a small growth entrance. There is a space to put it in. There are no problems here. As we know, this is the newest school in the division. Bethel Manor and Taab Elementary are also full. Mount Vernon is mostly the same. Taab Middle has the lowest standard score, but it is divided into FCI. Taab High has a lower score than Tharadhamy, and it has been run by several groups throughout the year. I call it the Franken-Kettidangal with love. The CIP is planning to convert the current Cable Library into six-class rooms, upgrade the living room, provide a new main entrance, security, office, multi-purpose room, and laning commons. In Bethel Manor, four to six-class rooms, a new gym, a new cafeteria will be built, and renovated. After the York Seafold renovation, it will look like a new one. It is expected to be full by the time it reaches 31. Even though York is full and in good condition, there is a slight decrease in enrollment. In York Middle, 17 class rooms are used as support specials. Those class rooms are more crowded when reused. In addition, there is a decrease in the number of high FCI's. York High is a fabricated building. It is a Franken building. It is more crowded in the past, but there is a decrease in the number of FCI's. The FCI of the whole campus is in a bad condition. Some of the individual agreements must be revoked. When you look at the entire Kambas, you have a place to work in terms of the provisions. All these things have been sent to our representatives to make this a major reconstruction plan in the near future. In the division leadership meeting, we asked, What do you hear, what do you see from the principals, the teachers, the students? Many of them said that there was something to be improved. But in some places, the pipes, the upper floors were not as good as they were supposed to be. The improvement was given to the lower floors of the building, because it is a big and expensive thing. In that regard, you have given a very detailed explanation. They haven't paid much attention to the furniture and class rooms. That is why schools are limited in facilities. There is a difference between the new and the old. Other opinions were about the usual activities. For example, storage. No one needs storage space. The temperature is never at the right level. Then, there is a desire to improve the facilities. Yes, we do not talk about the status of the marriage. Okay, how did you determine the status of your marriage? Or did you ask? I asked, what surprised you? What did not? Why? In the case of Midland High School, it is necessary to pay more attention to facilities and facilities, as mentioned by Netruthom. We talk about how to continue to use the most used marriages in the past. The data analysis of the worst-case schools was correct. It also helped to determine that the best-case cases are better than the worst-case cases. So, what we are saying here is a good thing. I have talked to you. In the past few decades, you have made the best use of the old buildings. You spent a lot of money. You met with great needs. You can see that in our values. You handled those debts very well. It was the right thing to do that day. It was financially meaningful. It is not the same for many of your buildings now. Let's make sure of this point again. At the expense of new schools, you have preserved this system well. Again, this is the amount that we expected to be more than 400 million. Here it is more than 262 million. This is the difference of 160 million dollars you earned. It has a price. This is my favorite floor plan. This is York. This is the Franklin Building. This is what we have. This portfolio is a collection of buildings. When schools started in the early 50s, no one decided that all schools would be like this for the next 60 to 70 years. No one did that. No, do it as needed, add it when there are new needs, build a new building, and so on. It's going on like it used to be, isn't it? It is time for you to start thinking about different strategies for your secondary schools. You have got a lot of time. After that, you have to think about the development of elementary schools. The first thing you need is for secondary schools. You are in a three-in-one position compared to modern schools. That is, one child has 95 steps instead of 125 steps. They use you in the way you need in elementary school. High schools and middle schools are trying to do the same. They seem to be much closer to their roots. The A-tandram, which is the foundation for innovation. FCI, which we discussed just now, is not recovering. You are in a situation where you are short of revenue. Therefore, 54 to 69 York High, York Middle, Queens Lake, Taub High, Grafton Bethel are all in the low-income range. And you will have to pay full price for the life of those buildings. That is not beneficial for you. This is not suitable for students who are in the middle, high school, middle school, middle school, middle school, middle school, middle school, middle school, middle school, middle school, middle school, middle school, middle school, middle school, middle school, middle school, middle school, middle school. For example, the C is 80%. This is the main thing to remember. If you are going to conduct a big initiative, does it mean that 80% is spent on the main part of the contract as it is? You are going to make it a new attraction for Minu. If you examine the condition of the nest, it will be very good to see. The seeds that carry the weight will be there. They spread out and stand on the ground like that. Most of your schools are here. This is the other part of the FCI, FCI curve graph. In 80 years, you will be in this cloud. Most of your schools are here now. You are getting closer to it. You are getting stuck in that door. The length of the division. Isn't that right? That's why I'm going to tell you this quickly. So, you got some time. Time is up. We talked about it with great enthusiasm. The cost of doing this with a new design. You are working on your plans for 1964. One thing I forgot to tell you is that there are a lot of unilateral ties. They are spreading. These long lines. Then, small places. So, when there are many single buildings in a small place, York High is an exception to that. And, you don't have a lot of space. And, it would be more safe to build a little higher. The safety of middle and high schools is later than the current situation. York High Middle is below 166 in the 367-class rooms of high schools, or 45% below 700 square feet. Okay. Instructions. 1. Continue your work as a tabernacle miner. Those plans are in progress. There is no change in this. Continue these works. We thought a lot about changing the TAB, but we came to the conclusion that the TAB plan has been completed, the bedel miner plan has been completed, and the federal grant has been used. I understand that you have achieved that. We will definitely help you with that. Next, we haven't talked about this before, but you have 20 modular buildings.

52:48Speaker 1

I have 14 buildings. Trailer buildings. Yes. Trailer buildings, yes.

52:53 – 55:01Speaker 3

They have a 20-year use period. They have to be changed after 20 years. Even now, you have many here. So, look at what we are saying. They are not safe. You have to take those things to the store. So, our advice is to take the first five years. Avoid the first ten models that are in the most old and bad condition. The models that you took later are the models that they went to long ago. Their time is up. It's time to change them. Move the kids into the nest. The main part of the nest. Right. This is a part of the permanent CIP plan. These are the main projects. We are looking to the Queen's. I strongly recommend rebuilding the Queen's. The reason for this is that if you carry out a complete renovation, you will create a small space where the children will not have the facilities they need today. To do this, you will have to cut down a large piece of land. You can only do it if the situation is good. So, Walarmill and McGruder are in touch. The number of people in McGruder is decreasing, and the number of people in Waller is increasing. They are not completely destroying the area, but you have planned to move another group of people to Waller Mill. Our suggestion is that there should be a small building in the north of it, right? In the north, Griffin Yates. It is mostly hidden. The classrooms there are waiting for the children. They use it as storage or as a base. We went inside and examined it. The condition of the building is good. Spend some money there and make the hidden classrooms available. Move the children from Waller Mill to McGruder to there. Use them. Use Griffin Yates completely.

55:01Speaker 1

That is, the children are there.

55:03 – 1:00:03Speaker 3

You have ECC Center 1. This increases your interest in Waller, Mill and McGruder. This also increases your interest in Waller, Mill and McGruder. This also increases your interest in Waller, Mill and McGruder. This also increases your interest in Waller, Mill and McGruder. This also increases your interest in Waller, Mill and McGruder. This also increases your interest in Waller, Mill and McGruder. The first part is the main reason for most of the first part, but there are many other things that need to be done. Okay, so let's rebuild to Queens. You can do it on a permanent site. This is one of the sites that you regularly visit. Lauren made this the only one, you can do it, or you can get a new site, right? That's a calculated cost. Design, soft cost, contingencies, permitting, etc. You have to add soft cost to get the full cost. Isn't it? But I understand that you are used to using construction costs. This is only the cost of construction in 2027. Add 20% to the total cost. Re-build to Queens. You have to increase the cost of construction. That is your federal grant. This line can change according to the cost of the grant you get. ECC-1 will be launched as a DARE Elementary partner. Only below 4 million. Complete the TAB program as planned. You have completed most of it. Only the rest is left. Avoid your trailers. The oldest 10 trailers. We have a line item for that. Rebuild the Operations Center. I don't know if you've seen it, but the FCI at the operations center is very high. When we walk around there, it's a group of offices that you don't want to use anymore. The FCI is mostly in your office offices because the rich go there, the money goes to the kids, it's good. It should be like that. That office is over. It's time to rebuild. Apart from that, we reviewed the needs for non-renewable buildings in the coming years, and not only that, but also took half of the extra needs. Okay, you should at least include half of the needs in your budget. A division is unable to provide funds for all needs. But this is a budget solution, we said, we can add half. Everything can be implemented, but that was the solution there. That's 111 billion. But it's moving to the Griffin Gates. That's a small number, because you're only doing new things. It has the capacity. The furniture that needs to be turned into classrooms without classrooms, fixtures, accessories, FF&E, etc. are the only things you're doing. 112 billion, the first part. My suggestion was that you should not make changes in primary schools for a short period of time. Classrooms are of a proper size. They are well-equipped classrooms. There is a difference in the experience of students in terms of whether or not there have been any new activities in a primary school. Since the classrooms are of a proper size, the division can provide furniture, fixtures, accessories, FF and E for all students. Because the classrooms are of a good size. All you have to do is make the interior beautiful. They will get the most furniture. They will get all the new white boards and projection systems, right? All you have to do is make that clean. This is something that can be done within the budget. We calculate that it will cost up to half of the maximum 15 billion. Right? Then, the benefits that are available to you. That is the first part. This is the current trend of HVI, which has become a leader in this field. This is a trend, not a design. Understand this. This is an idea about how to rebuild the land in Queens. This shows that this is possible. Two lands. Two lands. Second part. Rebuild the middle school in Kiln Creek Park. That is the next step. Even then, there is a place in that park that is needed. If my memory is correct, there are 22 acres. So you can also build a general park there. That doesn't have to be just for a special need, right? It can be both.

1:00:05Speaker 1

That is in Kiln Creek Park.

1:00:06Speaker 2

So, if you intend to rebuild Taab Middle School, you can't rebuild it on the same site. It is very small to rebuild on the site where the school is located.

1:00:19 – 1:02:03Speaker 3

Which school? TAB, then MIDDLE, TAB-MIDDLE, MIDDLE, TAB-MIDDLE, same S.A.R. So, this is for the second class. The idea is that when the school operates, it cannot be restored properly. Then you will have to move all the children. It is a big problem and a big expense. It will be lost. So, you don't want to do it. Kiln Creek Park is actually intended as a middle school. It is connected to Taab Middle. You can build a two-storey building there. You can also use a large part of the park as a park in the middle of construction. So this was the idea. We can use it. We can go back there. We can use it to rebuild when Taab Middle School operates. We don't have to waste money on modern places. When that is completed, the children can be moved there. Then, what will you do with the top middle school site? You have two options. We can talk about that next time. No, you have more options than two, but at least two at least. Then, the main project is that it can be rebuilt on the same site as York Town and York Middle and Grafton. Yorke Middle High and Yorke High is the same experience as the Yorke High site in Grafton Middle High. It is a specific association. I think it is 44. It is a variety. In the near future, both of them will need it. This is a great method. But when you go up, you will get a school that will last for 75 to 100 years. What will you do with the children?

1:02:03Speaker 1

Yes, how will you do it?

1:02:05 – 1:03:32Speaker 3

You can rebuild it without stopping climate change. York High Sight is enough for that. We can show you an idea for that. There is a geothermal field to be avoided, but you have plenty of space to rebuild the back of it. That would be a solid structure. A solid structure. Okay. A part of Middle School can be added to Pre-K or any other day. This is an addition to an addition. Avoid trailers that are only after the end of the semester or after that. What you can build, and what you can contribute to the reconstruction of York Middle High, will cost you approximately 8 billion rupees to build an annex for York Academy. In addition, half the budget for the remaining five years of construction work will be spent. Okay, that's the second part. That's a lot of money, because building a middle school and a high school is a bit of a hassle. But in the long run, all of your relationships are in their own hands. This is just one example of what Lauren did. I want to show you. Two months. This will explain.

1:03:32 – 1:03:48Speaker 1

So, we know that you have spent money for your auditorium and gym. So, we are trying to maintain it without changing the things you have decided. That is, we can use the two-month high school in the front and the middle school in the back to make it a building. You see that dash line, right? That is the building in the ground. We will turn this into a building so that students do not have any obstacles.

1:03:55Speaker 3

What do you have to say about the reconstruction of the building? How long will it take? What is the normal duration of this?

1:04:01Speaker 1

For construction activities.

1:04:03Speaker 3

Okay. The method is to make the building a building. So it will take a little more time than a normal building.

1:04:09 – 1:04:36Speaker 1

Therefore, the entire structure will be completed in one go, but the construction will take place in groups. Therefore, one part of the building will be completed before the rest, and it will be easier for students to change according to their needs. For example, we can first build a middle school section and move the high school students there and build a high school sitting in front of it. According to the conditions, we can fix this in many ways depending on whether we can do more odd jobs in a time when there are no students.

1:04:40Speaker 3

Let's start there. The average time is 3 years. The first time is 40 years. Yes, that's right. We might be a little different from the first time. That's right. Yes, that's why the average is 3 years. This is not less either.

1:04:50Speaker 2

Let's take a little more, but this is an average number. So, in this equation, are you sitting there with the children after you get off first?

1:04:56Speaker 3

Or do you start from one side and go to the next?

1:05:06 – 1:05:25Speaker 1

Yes, it will build some blocks and parts. Since this is a primary goal, it will decide which is suitable. It will decide where the electrical switch gear, which is the heart of the building, or what is needed first. Students will never want to close the gymnasium or library when they are there.

1:05:25 – 1:05:40Speaker 3

Since there is a little more facility in the building, you can close only one part of the building. When the kids are in the other part, you conduct the construction and move them to the new part, and so on.

1:05:40Speaker 1

This helps the kids to be in the actual classrooms instead of being in the trailers during construction. What was the name of the office? No, the office.

1:05:48 – 1:06:31Speaker 3

We say that it is time for the current admin to move away from operations buildings and build an independent office building here. You can see the buildings that are not used here. Then there are about a group of buildings here. Let's build a two-storey office building here. You have a built-in building here. You can either develop or use it from there. This is an intention to bring more people into a building. It will last for a long time. Remove the buildings to be removed. Then, move people from the six roads that make up the existing admin building here.

1:06:39Speaker 1

I'm looking at... No, this is only for operations.

1:06:42Speaker 3

Operations, operations, vehicle maintenance, operations, then vehicle, then... All the operations facilities near the stadium.

1:06:51Speaker 1

There are many in the area.

1:06:52Speaker 1

They are in a very bad condition.

1:06:54 – 1:08:26Speaker 3

The maintenance department is in an old facility. We have a bus garage. That's a special facility. We have an IT warehouse. So there are three different facilities here. A small question. Then, as Dr. Karol said, this is a 15-year program. If each class is 5 years, looking at the 3rd class of this 15-year program, you can take 7 years to complete everything, but 5 to 7 years. This is the last class. In this class, you have to think about these elementary schools after 15 years. They will need to be reconstructed. When I create a master plan like this, my subharsha makes an effort every 5 years for 10 to 15 years. You are always looking ahead, but not every year. Because you don't have a plan at that time. But every five years, you are selling new things with a new view. How is our endowment? How is our financial situation? How is the status of our buildings? You continue to move forward with a view that is 15 years ahead. But don't build a building in 1900 to 1950. You have to integrate new educational systems and build in a different way. That's right. So, let me go back for a minute. Okay, sir.

1:08:28Speaker 2

Griffin Yates opened and earned money from Waller Mill. Okay, sir.

1:08:32 – 1:08:52Speaker 3

I didn't see it coming back anywhere else. For construction. Construction. What happened? That is, the budget for Waller Mill is a substitute for the cost of rebuilding that 28 billion rupees Queensway. So, you had a budget of approximately 30 billion for the Queensway project. I understood that. Oh, right.

1:08:52Speaker 2

When did you get the money for the Waller Mill again? That hasn't happened yet. Oh, right.

1:08:57Speaker 3

When did you get the money for the Waller Mill again? 2. In 2016. There is a reason why you got 29 billion.

1:09:02Speaker 2

How did you not do it quickly? And you didn't even include it in the 15-year plan. Reason. So...

1:09:12 – 1:10:06Speaker 3

The reason was not to stop those 2.9 billion bonds, but to add new facilities to them. By doing so, you can take them back through Griffin Yates' rooms. Because you're moving them there. Yes, it's a dark magic. You're taking Griffin Yates back to Pre-K. You're moving those kids from Waller Mill to Griffin Yates. If you are using McRodder or Griffin Yates, you will have the facilities you need without any major construction. By increasing the efficiency of the facility, we have avoided the need to increase the capacity of the facility. I didn't fully understand, but I understood your wish. Yes, yes, that's the wish. Yes, you brought it. Can you give me an idea? Sure, sir.

1:10:06 – 1:10:35Speaker 2

Here, we have to do it because we have been renting for 15 years. I think we have to rent for a budget of 15 years. Because if we look at 41 billion now, that amount will not come close after 15 years. Sure. So, how will we rent financially for 15 years from today? If this is the reason why we are volunteering, we will be in trouble. Definitely. So, I think we need some numbers that are accurate and useful. Then, in 2019, when we were making master plans, we tried to make money. That's when Covid came.

1:10:37 – 1:12:48Speaker 3

So, their numbers are as they are now. If the inflation is normal, it is now going down. We can assume that inflation will rise up to 3-3.5% in 15 years. We can do it for sure. Yes, we have to do something. You have to do some modeling there. Yes, sir, that's right. We are re-examining our five-year plan to make things like COVID happen. Definitely. That's why you're doing it. We have different methods. That's right. That's right. Instead of counting what will happen after 15 years, I think it's better to make financial decisions every 5 years. Let's look at today's numbers. We'll look at it again after 5 years. What are the new numbers now? Even so, the conditions are the same. But don't try to calculate what the income will be in 15 years, because you won't be able to. Yes, we have different jobs. Yes, we have. When we accept CIP and CIP for 15 years, a project will be established like a permanent CIP. Okay, all that year, I think this is one of the things that has been left out of this. How much this will cost year by year will affect the future. Okay, our budget. You know that monthly schools are a big part of our budget, right? So I think that by the time this is ready for 15 years, it will increase the cost of funding. Then we can see how big of a gap it will be in 15 years. But do you know what? That's what we need to do. Yes, that's right. One last thing to think about.

1:12:48 – 1:15:11Speaker 2

TAFA. If you look at the most important things, the third thing I left behind is that you may need more middle school. That's a big deal. Let me tell you why. These are your current middle schools. My network. This is the monthly enrollment. This is the monthly tuition. This is the enrollment that is expected in five years. So, when I work on a new school or when I make a master plan, I aim to be 85% efficient. That is, if I know that there will be 1,232 middle school children, I need the remaining 115%. Because I don't want to spend a lot of money to complete the school on the first day itself. It's not that practical, it's not that difficult. So, the 15% is an ordinary number that I use. That means, if these numbers are correct as they are now, You will have to work for a middle school that can seat 1400 people. Do you want a middle school that can seat 1400 people? If you look at your salary, it will be 12.75% higher than your salary. 12,000. How big do you want a middle school to be? I don't have a good reason for that. These are all things that need to happen in nature. It's not that simple. These are all things that you need to look at your population statistics and think about the behavioral characteristics. Do people in big middle schools behave well? Of course they do. Do some people say they don't? Of course they do. But this is one thing to think about and pay attention to.

1:15:11 – 1:17:48Speaker 3

You are seeing the population statistics that you have achieved today. In a town called Pocoson, because of the lack of children, they even decided to close down a school. Okay. I heard today that they closed down 29 schools in Cleveland. Think about it. 29 schools. At one point, they didn't have the children they needed for a school. But because there were so many children, they combined them. In one such class, 40 children passed away. How would you handle such a situation? That's why I think population counts are essential. Because if you work for 1400 people and you can't quickly meet the population count, what will you do? That's right. That's why, every 5 years, population counts, situation, and financial matters are important. So, I think what you are doing now is the right thing to do. So, I spent most of the half an hour that I was given. I know, even though I didn't look at my watch, I know it's late. This is the most important thing in the first phase. Think about your elementary school classrooms being built on a fair budget. You should pay attention to the important things there. That is why we recommend that you start rebuilding in these places. Increase the availability of pre-K facilities for those in need. There is room for you to do so in a small number of places. This can help prevent major construction costs and help rebuild. Use the budget of the construction works that have been replaced with what we need and increase that budget every five years. By doing so, you will be able to continue to take the lead in the development and transformation of your foundation. Thus, you will be able to avoid the increase in the number of needs in your schools. You are doing it correctly. Thus, our presentation ends here. Thank you. I have a question regarding Pre-K and Pre-K. Doctor, where are we now in terms of the Karol Pre-K enrollment? Can you tell me what the needs of the society are for the Board of Supervisors? That is not up to me now. Doctor, Skinner, can you tell me something? If not, we can get it later. But generally speaking, we don't think we can meet the needs of the society.

1:17:52Speaker 1

I don't know about the pre-K enrollment, but I can say that there are 13 classrooms for pre-K students in our school division. Yes.

1:17:59Speaker 3

But if we take the number of pre-K students in the society, more than 35 classrooms will be needed. Yes, there are some families waiting for the classrooms.

1:18:09Speaker 1

Yes. So, this is the basic question.

1:18:22 – 1:21:00Speaker 3

A magazine says that York County is the best school division in Virginia. Isn't that right? When I hear this report, I appreciate the way it was prepared. But, even if we make a small mistake, we will lose millions of dollars. When I hear that, I am disappointed. If we are the best, I can't even imagine what the worst situation would be. Isn't that right? What are the other school divisions doing to solve this? They too have similar problems. They too have schools at the same time. Old schools. I will say two things. First, the county is supporting us. As Mr. Sterp said, you are helping us. We are able to move things forward in a timely manner. Looking at some of the bad places where students study, the state grants schools to help them build schools. But they don't do it in a way that's appropriate for all schools. That's why we're having a hard time. We tried for a SCAP grant for the fifth time, but we didn't get it this time either. In my opinion, it happened because our community is supporting us. But the truth is, despite the restrictions in our classrooms, we were able to do it with the support of the teachers, the support of the teachers, the support of the teachers, the support of the teachers, the support of the teachers, the support of the teachers, the support of the teachers, the support of the teachers, the support of the teachers, the support of the teachers, the support of the teachers, the support of the teachers, the support of the teachers, We will definitely hear that. But I don't know. When I hear you talk about education, art, and more local opportunities, that's what I feel. I'm not one of them. Do you understand? It's never like that. We know a little about construction. But you have to find a way to keep schools in the first place or close to it for 15 years. Then you come and make us aware. I know you do this every year. But I think this is a time for action. Either we should move forward, or we should go back. In other words, in the 90s, in the 50s, in the 50s, we went through a big construction, made a lot of progress in the underground facilities, then we moved forward with small steps, and now we are back in that state. Now those problems have started affecting us, so it is time for us to take action again.

1:21:00 – 1:22:12Speaker 1

From the time when schools in my district were closed, and from the time I worked in the school in 2000, I have to say that there were very few facilities at that time. As a councillor, I was in an electrical closet or HVAC closet. It was a very small place. But there was no other way. We couldn't sit in the councillors' car. So, due to the lack of facilities, I have struggled a lot in the last few years. Now, when I go to school, I see principals. For example, the principal of York Elementary School has some furniture that he gave as a gift. Since there is no space in the classrooms, the children do their homework sitting there. They are trying very hard to give what the children need. But how long will this continue like this? If a limit is reached, it will become a big problem, right? But the main thing here is money.

1:22:12Speaker 3

It is still money. Yes, it always comes back to money.

1:22:16Speaker 1

No one needs it. Let me also express my opinion about the condition of the county here.

1:22:26 – 1:22:59Speaker 3

The question is whether we are interested in maintaining the quality of the schools in York County. That is the question. That is the policy. I need some help. Because I am trying very hard for that. I don't see the school board giving a solid answer to this. Do we need a policy? Do we need another yes for this? I don't see any support. I don't see any boards saying yes in front of schools. I don't think anything like that is happening. I think this was a very quick test of power. The thing. No, okay. We have to get rid of it.

1:22:59 – 1:23:23Speaker 3

I have no doubt that we have to get rid of it quickly. So this is my reply. If we continue to receive this kind of income for 20 years, it will be possible. If we move forward without receiving this answer, it will not be beneficial for us. And 50% of this income comes from people outside the county. That is correct. It is very important to remember. It is very important to remember. You can't see how important it is.

1:23:23Speaker 2

Then another thing, think that this is not a pass.

1:23:26Speaker 1

I am examining both the sides. I am evaluating both the sides of this argument. That's not it. There's nothing here that's a pass. No, no.

1:23:34Speaker 3

What I'm saying is, what if this examination is not a pass?

1:23:37 – 1:24:26Speaker 1

Okay, just think that it's not a pass. Okay? Anyway, those facilities will be required for schools. That's why money will have to be found somewhere. Then where will that money come from? Then you will have to look at the real estate tax. When you investigate your real estate tax, you will see that people do not want to increase the tax. Therefore, you do not want the real estate tax to increase. It will directly affect the people in your county. You need this referendum. It says, hey, whoever uses food tax in York County should not pay food tax, but actual sales tax. This is not only affecting the people in the county. The people who come to the county and the volunteers are all involved in this. That's why there is such a debate. I see it as, give it now, then give it later. Anyway, you will have to give money somewhere.

1:24:27Speaker 3

The opportunity to double the income from this is useful.

1:24:30Speaker 1

Right. That's true. That's also true. But there will be a deficit somewhere.

1:24:35 – 1:26:47Speaker 3

If it's a share, it will have to be done through property tax by the end of the year. You will have a hard time because we can't afford it. I talked to a group about this. I told them about the idea that a share of 1% will be equivalent to $12 billion. That's the idea, isn't it? That is, $12 billion more income per year. Not only the people who live here who donate $12 billion, but also the majority of the people who live here who donate $12 billion. So, we paid more attention to it. Even if it's a big deal, it's not a complete picture. Because, as you pointed out, if we don't get that $12 billion, it's only a part of the answer. It's not a complete solution, because it still requires a lot of responsibility. We can be sure that if we earn $12 billion this year, the debt will not increase indefinitely, right? But in the coming years, that is, in the remaining 19 years, we cannot say that. The obvious thing is that if we do not earn $12 billion now, how much will that debt be? Then how much will the debt be? Because if you make a mistake when you reach the end of it, people will start paying attention to it, I am sure. Now we know that 1% is 12 billion dollars and that many others are helping for it. But what is the end of it? That's where Mark and Dr. Carroll came together to make it look like this. Then at the end, when we talk, we will know what the outcome will be. Otherwise, how much will we go back? Because if we delay this, the cost will increase. It's not decreasing. It's increasing. This is a responsibility. The people in your county have to understand that. Right? If we don't tell them our numbers, they won't understand it. So that's one of my disappointments. Dr. Karol, talk a little more about that grant you were talking about.

1:26:47Speaker 2

Tell us more about it.

1:26:53 – 1:27:38Speaker 3

The grant that we received as a TAB, no, what you said, the grant that we approved, tell us about it. The SCAP grant is a new grant that has been announced at least five times in the past three years. This is based on the quality of the property and its history, as Mr. Steele said. This is a state grant, isn't it? That's right, the legislature has allowed money all the time. They haven't spent all the money. The algorithm of how they continue to pay for this has been recreated. This is an opportunity for our school councils to do this. But the projects we submitted to Taab High School didn't get as many scores as they wanted.

1:27:51Speaker 1

On what basis do they get points? They increase their salaries.

1:27:55Speaker 3

What is an example of such salaries?

1:27:58Speaker 1

I need to talk to Mr. Bowen.

1:28:00 – 1:30:42Speaker 3

But before I finish, let me say this. Every time they save money. Last time they saved 77 million. Then they add more money and do the math again and again. Mr. Bowen, you. When it comes to some of the changes they have made in their financial statements, they were investigating whether the project has included STEM activities or opportunities for academics. So we did that. We were investigating some of these things at Taab High School. They are investigating the local composite system. We have very few composite systems that require some other school divisions awarded in York County. And if you have not received an award before, you will receive credit points. So, we tested some of our students' values. We conducted a trial on our own. We thought whether we should get an award or not. We thought it was appropriate. We did not get any feedback from the Education Department. So, we will continue to learn from them. Again, we still have 77.5 million to go, and we have a lot of work to do. We believe that our projects are worth it, and we will continue to do so. Do you know about the decisions made by the state government over the years in school systems? Okay, another part of the region they are looking at is their financial support. So I don't usually look at those details. But when I look at the communities in Commonwealth, I think York County only has very little financial support. So I don't think we'll get points in that. But that's a small shame. The five points you get will be in it. What I am trying to say here is that the county and school divisions have made great efforts over the years to improve the lives of schools and to maintain good conditions. It is a matter of being punished, not to be punished. The reason is that we could have destroyed the existing buildings, and we could have asked for help. We should have asked for help. That is why I asked that question. Is it part of the fundamental decision? Do they ask? Hey, you have done a good job here, right? We can punish that action. It will continue. Instead, we are being punished for doing good things.

1:30:42Speaker 1

That is what they expect. If you are being punished. Yes, that is why you are being punished.

1:30:48Speaker 2

That's why I thought so. That's my situation. Was it only about the cost of your buildings? It wasn't about the price, was it? We checked the sites as well.

1:30:58 – 1:31:33Speaker 3

Yes, then we checked the sites, green space, parking lot, cement, etc. There are big problems with leaving children and taking them back to some of our schools. There are big problems, right? So, there are some issues with the capacity and conditions. We have taken care of it, but we haven't taken care of the rest of the problems. We haven't told you that you need to increase the number of entrances, or increase the number of entrances, or that you need more parking spaces. We haven't done that. In the next five years, if you want to change this parking lot, you know that you need it. The condition of the asphalt.

1:31:34Speaker 1

The condition of the asphalt and the cement. The drainage system in the vegetable fields.

1:31:40 – 1:36:27Speaker 3

Looking at the big picture, we don't want to make a drop-off or a pick-up situation like it is now. It will be a part of the price to decide how to avoid it and how to avoid it. Okay sir, I think it's coming when you design it. Schools decide where it is. But when we talk about those places, it should be part of the consensus that this problem will be solved. Yes, it comes in the design group. Okay, when you work as an architect, how can you use the place in the best way? What is the need of the society? That is where we are going to introduce the society. Our staff will give it to us. The team will continue to bring the design idea to the plan. I can do that. I know that's not their job. The parking lot is definitely not like that. Because we know that more children are coming in cars than in buses. So we know that we need a lot of parking designs for big drop-off places and bus loops. So if we turn 50 degrees, we can see the growth of the Yorke Town Road and the roads on the other side. So now, there are people who are stuck between TAB High School, TAB Middle School and Mount Vernon. It is still an old rural road with two lanes. The road that has no sidewalks and 200 acres of fields is still there. It should definitely be part of the agreement on what we do in schools. Tom, I don't think that's what you're saying. Because like schools and the 15-year system, this is what you and York County are doing. I think that education about facilities should be a part of a major development plan that can help us develop it. I think your county's referendum is important when it comes to how we can help. As you said, how can we help? This is very unnecessary. It is known that we are just a bedroom community. Don't be like that. I believe that we need to grow financially, bring in more businesses, and increase revenue. That will make a big difference. 12 billion dollars is not a big amount. You may feel that way when you hear that. The size of our county is 12.5 million dollars, which is a very small amount. So, if we want to look at how we can serve our community, how we can bring in more businesses, how we can bring in more income from the financial side, we will be able to benefit as less residents as possible, because we will be able to increase our income through sales. So, what we are currently doing in the long term and what we need to do in York County in the future will come through that. Will that $1.2 billion help to pay off debt? Of course it will. It will make a big difference. Yes, what does it show? It will help. That financial growth is part of the big picture. That financial growth is happening. Over the past few years, we have seen a lot of growth in the county's business. We see that instead of big businesses coming, things are happening in reverse. You will have one inside and two inside. You will have two inside and four inside. You will continue to see that growth. So, it is time for this conversation. You know, right, Varudha? We know that we are living with this problem for a long time. So, can we unite as an economic development that supports it? Of course. It is happening now. Of course. There are a lot of people in the county around Meshaki. So, I think we can make it happen very quickly. We all have to agree on that. I am a businessman, so if I have to pay for my expenses, I try to increase my income. Our income should not be in the hands of the rich or the poor. We need to bring in more income from that. We are going to buy things, they are going to increase their income, so we will have to pay for their schools. We need to find a way to bring them more here. They can spend money here and help our schools. I will go back to my first point. When we are in a discussion, we have to make decisions that the people understand. We have to explain things to them in a way that they understand. Do you understand? We have to tell them their strengths and weaknesses. So what I am looking at here is all the struggles we are going through here. I know Doug is saying this. Doug, you have to help us with this one percent. Okay, if we are holding that one percent, help us. Put people in this. Make sure they understand.

1:36:33 – 1:37:28Speaker 1

To add to Doug's point, I would like to say what my thoughts are about this. Yes, I give full support to schools. I like schools. I like our children. I want them to get the best out of it. Certainly, I want to think in a positive direction. In addition, there are a large number of people in India who are suffering from extreme poverty. I want to discuss their opinions with those people. If I do that, my opinion is this or we will do this. I can't say that right away. I need all the details. So I need to make sure that we can have a strong argument. So if I insist on saying yes, I want to be able to justify it. It should be a strong argument. I don't want to say that we can do it. Because there are a lot of people out there who have gained their own independence. Now you need another 1%. You can see that in tomorrow's news.

1:37:28Speaker 3

They are asking this.

1:37:29 – 1:37:40Speaker 1

If we do this, next year you will increase your unemployment. This is the other side. But the other side is, if we don't do this, we will have to increase our own unemployment by 10 to 15%.

1:37:40 – 1:40:33Speaker 3

No, I understand that. My opinion is that we have to make this a strong argument. Only a few people have shared their opinions on Lottery money. You must have heard about it, right? So, you know that lottery money is free, right? I think it is important for people to understand how to use this money, how to distribute it, and how to make sure that it is spent correctly. We know that this will be for basic needs. Because we see the cost of it. So, every money you earn will be helpful for this purpose. What are we going to save in our schools? That's a good thing. Let me tell you for those who are listening. Yes, it's all about construction. This is considered to be a reconstruction, a new construction, and an end to debt, but not all of it. So, all of this is going to be 100%. You have given a great example of the new needs that we have to come to in the next 15 years. This is a huge amount. That is, in five years, it will cost about 300 billion dollars. So, let's not make it happen. I don't know anything about it. I heard from them that there are 77 billion dollars in the country. Mr. Thorndon. Okay, even if it is a small help, it will help to reduce the burden. I have two things to say. One, I saw an argument about why you should not use the money you have. An example of this is the C4 project. When the scheme started at $11 billion and was completed, it became $23 billion. We used the money you gave, but during COVID, construction costs and unemployment rose. We used the money you gave us, but it was too much. We couldn't control it. So, we used your money, but we had to use more. We spent more on what we wanted, but it wasn't in our control. So, let me say this openly, I am in favor of this 1% deduction. I am not a person who accepts deductions. I don't want to pay a deduction. I don't want to pay a deduction. I don't like deductions. Like a deduction, even if within 10 years, within 1.5 years, my house will close, I am telling you that I will give a cheque to the county for my personal property. I do not want my personal property to be affected because of the lack of this percentage of sales. Because we have to work in schools and the people outside are not helping us. Even if it is a farm, even if it is a school board building, I support this. That's why I refuse to sell this one percent. That's why I refuse to sell this one percent. That's why I refuse to sell this one percent.

1:40:33Speaker 1

That's why I refuse to sell this one percent. That's why I refuse to sell this one percent. Now it's our turn. It's time to continue.

1:40:43Speaker 3

I'm not the one who's going to deny it. You're the one who's going to do it. But the people who have to make the decisions are not me. But let me say that I support this. That's it.

1:40:50Speaker 2

I don't like denials either. But I know what a good decision is.

1:40:53 – 1:48:02Speaker 3

That's my opinion. That's my opinion, too. Okay, then. Let me say it right now. I support this. Let's get back to what Tom said about the need for money. Yes, money is an issue. But it's not something that can't be ignored. We are number one as a school division in the state. We are 25% of the state for each student. Therefore, we pay attention to our activities, relationships, and the benefits of our teachers. You were talking about the riots in other places, weren't you? They have more problems, Mr. Drury. Their problem is that many in middle schools don't even know how to read a definite sentence. Do you understand? We are the first in the country. That sentence is to be stopped. Yes. We need money to do the riots. Right? Our goal is to make York County School Division a better place. We need to change this into a place where people want to work, because we are getting the best people. Our school division is the best in Meghalaya. It is the best in the state itself. We have the second best teacher in the state. You are talking about 131 school divisions. We have the largest school division and teachers in second place. Also, when you say, yes, we are the first in the country, then look at the state. Virginia is in seventh place. We are the only one in that 7th place. So, we are doing our best in the most possible way. But we need your help in financial matters. That's why I said, hey, I'm supporting this. I'm not allowing anyone. You know that, right? Doug, in financial matters, you can come to the point that you need our help. We have shown this to you and the society through the TAP project. When the budget came in the beginning, it was very high. Our team worked very hard to reduce that burden. I am very proud of that. But we have a big responsibility ahead of us. We all have to work together for the same goal. The thing is that we called you out saying that those associations were not right. We are the doctors to fix these associations. I needed to talk to Karol again. If we hadn't done that, I don't know how much that pain would have been. Oh, we are just that. So, I applaud you for calling them out. But I have worked with them in the background. I have seen how much they are calling out themselves. I am a doctor. I am talking about everyone under him who works on that project, not only about the cure. They re-examined it again and again. I examined all their methods and techniques on how to do it. The designs that were given to consultants by millions of dollars were done by them. They tried to add different ideas to PowerPoint presentations and count them. I have to praise the method they gave. I thank them for doing so much. If you want to bring the plan closer to you, we will do it. We never just say one thing. That's why we keep in mind that our society, children, you, your place is important to us because we have a fund. It's not that we get money. That's right. This one percent will definitely help. Now, we need help. One of the things we want to help you with is that it is within your reach. That is, it is possible only through you to help our entire community. Only 20% of our population or households have children with disabilities. Is that right? In reality, it is 30%. That means 70% of families don't have children in school. But I'm sure they all have grandparents and grandparents. The good people who got education know the value of it. That's why we've been able to pay our programs for years. We also did a lot of research. That's clear. That is, that briefing itself showed it. We are spending this money very carefully. So now we have to pay more attention. So we have to raise the voice of the school board, not just the names and names of 30% of the people. We have to make the school's voice heard, because we are the supervisors. We are saying what we have to say. Right? We are talking to the public. That's why this is becoming a collective effort. If we want to take this seriously, this should be a collective effort. Okay. Not everyone should get involved in this. We can understand that. But it is very important to make our public aware. The public will ask our school board members, Oh, do you really need this? I see it that way. When we talk about school buildings, just like you did today, you have to say that you represent the people of your county as a school representative. Yes, we need this money. Right? One more thing, we have to let everyone know this. The things discussed here are not only for education, but also for other things, including facilities, places and education. After school, we have to plan activities that take place at 2 or 3 o'clock in the afternoon for others other than school. So, not only the size of the classroom is a part of that, you know, instead of 20 parks for students in the county, we can use school facilities for that. So, that should also be a part of that big picture. That's why the other 70% of people come. How they benefit from school facilities is because they get the facilities and services that we don't have anywhere else. That's a big point. Not only that, I also encourage 70% of people to do so. Because of our schools, we have the ability to improve our own quality. That is how you are improving your self-esteem. Also, you have a very safe community. You have a very strong community. A very safe community.

1:48:02Speaker 1

That's right. Very safe. For that, it is safe.

1:48:05 – 1:48:58Speaker 3

Because of the strong schools, we are creating an environment. Therefore, we say that this is what we need to unite the students, the teachers, and the community. I always see schools as our most important asset. Do you understand? Because of our great schools, people can work in Virginia Beach or Oftal, but they stay here because their children can study here. So it has kept us safe. It has kept our situation safe. What I have to say is that we have a great community. The individual wealth of the citizens of York County is increasing. It is not true for all the municipalities around us. I saw that the prices in the neighboring cities have decreased in the last count. Therefore, the cost of schools and all the other things we do is the cost of individual wealth. That's why we are wealthy. Yes. Unfortunately, we have to pay for it.

1:49:04 – 1:49:17Speaker 2

But there are some expenses that need to be paid. That's what this referendum is about. What I want to say is that we need to stop that referendum. That's what this referendum is about. I gave my opinion. Great. What do you think, Doug? I think I've said enough.

1:49:18Speaker 3

That's a good statement. Thank you. I think that's enough. Are we done? What do you think? Thank you very much for this statement.

1:49:26Speaker 1

Yes, this is a very good statement. 1. The time and effort spent on this. Do you think one million would be enough?

1:49:33 – 1:49:49Speaker 3

The question was whether a million dollars would be enough for Griffin Yancic's innovation. Furniture and other things that are not used on the ground are needed for the construction. The building itself is almost usable. Okay, how many class rooms will we get from that building? I think 3 to 10. I think that's right.

1:49:59Speaker 1

But, Doctor, I'm sure, just like Skinner told me.

1:50:01 – 1:50:21Speaker 3

Only two rooms are in use now. That means you know what to do with that star. So, is your briefing coming as a report? CES. Or is this just a briefing? Briefing report. Sir, there will be a report at the end of this week. There are a few things to do. But you have a report to give. It must be a report.

1:50:21Speaker 1

It must be a report.

1:50:22Speaker 3

When we get it, it makes sense. Okay, then can people download it online and take it? Yes, I think it will be available on our website.

1:50:30Speaker 2

Of course, some of the costs you mentioned will have to be adjusted.

1:50:32Speaker 3

Yes, because there are only some costs that you can't afford. I have one more question.

1:50:38Speaker 1

But I'm really mad.

1:50:40Speaker 3

When do we decide about Queens Lake? What? What are you looking at?

1:50:44Speaker 1

Okay, do you want me to ask you?

1:50:46 – 1:51:32Speaker 3

No, then I'll do it manually. It will be included in the normal order of things we do. Okay, so now we have to apologize to the board. The county will discuss about 93 Le Moune. It will be revealed. If we don't change the reason, I think it will shut down the doors. After that, we have to look at Griffin Yates. If it is acceptable, we will start moving in that direction. It will continue to be the new upper county's ability to do the rest of the parts. Then you will decide that this is a good idea, and then you will come and say how much you need. It will be in our facility master plan in November and in the capital improvement program that we announced in December. This is the natural part of the work that we do every year for financial expenses.

1:51:35Speaker 2

We can take a break and allow you to go out now. Or we can complete our consent calendar, which is only 3 minutes long. We can complete that. Is there any agreement for that?

1:51:43 – 1:52:22Speaker 3

You don't have a closed meeting. There is no closed meeting there either. We have one more thing left. That is the consent calendar. We only have one thing left in that. We can't take it now because of that. We have to review the application in the Council for Industrial Development. That's the big thing to do. Do you have any other questions about that? Let's move on. I have a question. About what? The consent calendar that Mrs. Knowles submitted is being rejected.

1:52:23Speaker 1

That's a lie. 6-26-138. 6-26-138-R. R. What's R? What did you change?

1:52:42Speaker 3

That was actually given by the District Administrator. Okay. Okay. Okay. Will they need that information?

1:52:51Speaker 1

Mrs. Knowles. Yes. Yes. Mr. Drury.

1:52:57Speaker 1

Mr. Sheppard.

1:52:59Speaker 1

Mr. Holloway.

1:53:00Speaker 1

Pramayam passed.

1:53:01Speaker 3

Let's avoid open discussion.

1:53:04 – 1:53:25Speaker 2

Before that, let me quickly say that there is a lot of good information in this. It's not easy to understand and reach out to others. I'm not sure if it's Susan or someone else you're looking for. How can this be easily shared and explained? Because of them.

1:53:25Speaker 3

He will have a report. Yes, I don't know if it will be in you. Okay, we were talking about this team.

1:53:29Speaker 1

Mr. Ron, you know how much we take to explain information using infographics, right?

1:53:33 – 1:54:06Speaker 3

You have to make it happen here too. Do you need a page? Is that what you want? Yes, I think it can be put on a page. Yes, but you understood what I meant, right? Okay, sir. Some of the details in this are good for more clarity. But we can't go there for this conference. We need to see the financial details. We need to investigate it. How much will it cost? How many downloads do we have? Thank you, Manira. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for investigating. Thank you again to everyone who listened to us here. Let's leave the protests with joy.

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