Trees and Parks Board - Regular Meeting

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Uh, we'll take roll call. Yes. Uh, chairman Jacob here. Um, Judy Swedenberg. Remember Judy Swber? I'm sorry. I'll answer. I'm so sorry. Judy member Nudy Newton here and Shannon Seville secretary here. All right, we're uh listening.

Uh let's take a minute to look over last month's consent agenda. GG 435 436. Oh, I'm standing back up.

Are you looking over there? Oh, I was actually trying to bring something else up, but uh has everyone had a chance to look over? Is it appropriate to make a comment about I guess I minutes? There'll be half the minutes. Is this the minutes? No, the minutes aren't their own. Just suggesture. Okay, we talked about the color. You actually just the color of the tank that several people mentioned sage green that I hadn't even noticed the top of the gazebo is a green and my husband said well why don't you paint it the color of the top the gazebo to match and I just thought I would try that out.

Okay. So I brought that Yeah. I I brought that suggestion to the council. No decision was made on it. Just that interesting. They just kind of like the idea of the Wood Creek Parks logo on it. Yeah. Um, so that's basically wondering, but yeah. Yeah, that that could work too. So it it needs to go back to council for final consideration. I didn't even notice the topic to say about what my husband and I had. So I don't know. Okay. So we have to approve the minutes. Um, show hands for the minutes to be approved. From uh the September meeting. We're approing it as September 17th. Yes. September 17th.

Yeah. Yes. Show hands. Eyes have it. All right. We'll go ahead and cruise on to Is there anything else you want to wait on from me besides uh You have any announcements? What was What was Can we back? Can we just back up really quickly? What did you say about the just that just I I brought that um I brought those comments to the council as part of my report to them, right? It wasn't an action item.

Um so the council would have to sort of say, okay, so the arts group said cover it in Cedar Stakes and and TA Park said paint it, put a logo on it. And so now they have to say, "Well, we like one of those or none of those." So it'll need to go it needs to go them needs to go to council. Council can then go, "Yeah, we want to do that or we don't like can y'all think it over some more and come back to us or they can just say we'll take it from here. It's their prerogative." So that's So it's kind of off your plate for now. But it's on there still.

Yeah, it's still it's still out there. For one thing, J might mention, we noticed at the medical facility that's you know where all the doctors come out of town. Y'all know where I'm talking about. I don't know the road 3537. I noticed their water tank is half stone and it's just really lovely the way they've done that. So there might be another possibility that it's like regular stone like part of half. It's colored and then it sort of tapers off. So that's south. Although that that's very expensive. I would say the golf courses.

It was 20,000 each to build them, but the uh one of the guys working told me that the stone was one of the most expensive parts to it. Right. Okay. I just write it down like the medical center um might also be an option professional building. It's really it's really beautiful. I bet it's I know that's not what it's called. Well, you know it's out there, right? Well, we're we're doing masonry on the creek side um pies. Um, so we'll have a we'll have a cost a comparable cost,

you know, from from somebody who already used them. All righty. Uh, we'll move on to item number one. We're going to go into a workshop at 4:41 for the parks master plan. So, I know this hasn't we we've brought it up a few times. It hasn't got exactly the attention. it's it's needed. So, what I did over the weekend was look at the 2019 um parks plan from Well, you were on council, right?

It was um was it like like 19 or 20?

It was 2019. Yeah. So, what I did was basically uh copy it into Google Slides and u highlighted some updates and I meant to send it out to all of y'all. I'll send it out after this meeting uh to see what y'all think. Aside from that, just updated picture. I think we could have basically the same master parks plan. Uh, real quick, it just discusses what the population was in 2019, what the average median income was in 2019. Uh, the name changed from whatever it was, the trees and trees and parks. Um, and then the updates. So, I went ahead and filled in all the updates to city hall, the triangle, Brook Hall, Augusta Park. Um, and then we have what we want within three years for the triangle in Augusta Park. Uh, overall as a city, what do we or for green spaces, what do we want within three years? uh that ranges from within three years to three to five years and then five to 10 years. So things we can discuss in our next meeting um are those topics. What do we want to see in the in the green spaces within three years? Um that's more immediate. where we want to see in our green spaces in three to five years. That's, you know, we could we got plenty of time to plan for that. And then our overall 5 to 10 year goal um

could be a lot more broad. Um and then uh yeah, updating the pictures for all the green spaces that we do have and what's now current. But basically, my suggestion is going to be using the exact same template uh as our 2019 parks plan

because going through urban planning and stuff I've studied lately, this is just exactly what you want to see in a master plan. Uh short short-term goals all the way to long-term goals. And then what do we have? What do we want? Then how how are we going to get it? uh I apologize I hadn't I hadn't got this sent out to all of y'all yet but uh you know something to work on and one note like you said the pictures Uhhuh.

Um one of the things that we asked that Charles Quinn do our our city photographer is get some photographs of our spaces. I I don't know what inventory there is in in there that he took. I I didn't review all it, but there are some pictures I know of, you know, parks and, you know, just spaces that would be useful at least if they're there like we can use them. We want take our own others and supplement whatever. But there are there are some photographs that are available that are updated. Perfect. if if we can get those from him.

I think I think they're in a link or you know on the server or something just don't let us forget. We'll we'll try what wherever it is we'll try to but but that was one of his his projects which came before. Okay. I mean that's uh something I was going to suggest is break them down into a committee to get the pictures and then also get the missing information which I have in the Google document is pretty pretty standard public information. I also followed up with Ted Gardner.

Uhhuh. um he was here for another meeting and you know I mentioned that you know we had discussed that and you know we might want some help in in just sort of work smithing you know a rewrite um and you know he said yep I'm sure I'd be interested in doing whatever I can for that and I just suggested to him that he grab it off the internet now I do know that he's out that's in I don't know shooting birds or something in the north country um so Yeah. Photography. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Photography. Well, I mean, you know, this we if if you wanted I mean that's just like he's a he's a resource,

but he's he's like on our he's he's our contractor for public information. Yeah. Well, words smithing's I mean that's going to make it look better to the community and it'll be a lot more legal because what I put on there may not be. Well, you know, a lot of times it's like, okay, well, you know, so when when I do this, I think we've had this discussion, but you know, like when when we get together to do the newsletter, which I am so thrilled with. You've done great. You've been a great addition, Canon. Um, but uh but when we get together to do the newsletter, you know, we just like spitballing ideas

and the next thing I know, I've got this beautifully written newsletter that sounds like Yeah. I may not have said every word of that, you know, but anyway, he did a great job of of just sort of fleshing out the ideas and putting them um you know, I wanted to kind of focus, you know, community feel and he just nailed it, you know. Yeah. So, so I think it's a I think the new side of it got really great and if we wanted to take that same approach with updating the verbage of the master thing that's that's on Oh, perfect.

That's a good idea. And also, they might be some date changes and I don't think we should just use it for as it is until we look at it for Yeah, I mean I I could email it to Jeff right now. Uh, I mean, we could do this. I looked over it and there were several things I noted that I thought did not apply that for a few times, but I can't. Yeah. Yeah. I I totally understand. And I that'd be great if Mr. Gorder would do that.

Yeah, there definitely some full slide changes. U So, yeah, we'll keep working that out. I'll tell you what, if you will, um, if you'll send it to your team, Bill had a chance to get it, too. Um, yeah, and and copy me on it for the next meeting. I'll put it in the agenda packet so we can put it up on the screen and go through it slide by slide, too. And by then, y'all will have notes on the slides as well, sort of sort of edit as we go in workshop. If y'all want to do that,

that'd be great. Um, so I think it would be against forum, but to open because it's Google, multiple people can work on one document at one at the same time.

Yeah. I mean, you're not you're not by but by but being able to view the same thing at the same time and and you know, you're not really violating if if y'all were like openly commenting on um I think that it should be I think it should be that I think it should do this, you know, then then that's not if you're just, you know, if you're just sort of making your own notes off of the thing, I wouldn't I wouldn't set it up as collaborative. You know, you could set it up as you could set it up as in in just viewer only and anybody could view it even downloaded. Um, but they couldn't edit it. Um, you could set it up as in commentator mode and then and then you you could write comments directly on it, but then you're starting to get into sort of a tricky area of forum, okay? because because you know Shannon could put something up there and it could influence those two because they saw you know in in a closed session I mean a closed environment. So you want that stuff to go but if it's up here and people have had a chance to review it and have taken notes and then you put it up here and say oh yeah we got to that slide I've got got a couple things to say about that. Then you're in an open session and y'all can say anything you want. Okay.

Yeah. So, I'll I'll make this I'll send it out to all of y'all as uh viewer only and then we'll have it up on the big screen for next month. Good. Any chance Ted can make it to the meeting? Okay. Does that sound good to y'all? Yep. All right. any any other concerns about the master plans or comments or ideas, suggestions?

I have a question. It seemed that when I was looking over and spin months, there was a lot of talk trails, walking trails or hiking trails. Did those exist or did you notice anything that I think was looked at? Yeah. So, actually, where where are these things? They're they're uh it was in the five I believe it was five to 10 year plan. So we haven't made it that far since 2019. Um funny thing is I updated that on my version to within our three-year plan.

So that's just my opinion. That's open for discussion what goes into the actual master plan. Y'all know the history of that those those plans that would have gone into the Okay. So, so the county the county had a a countywide trail plan

sort of sketched out and they put it out for public comment, public opinion. and they did a couple of presentations throughout the city. I mean, and some of the trails actually went through Wood Creek and like connect Blue Trail down here. Yeah. All the way out um through and around camp to up to Dig's Well, and then maybe even out like back to the high school. And so it was pretty extensive. Um they they got to the point where they actually uh spoke with the golf course.

The golf course has a system of easements all around the city. Um over there around around um Stonehouse there's open golf space that doesn't have golf holes on it. Um well not behind your house but or maybe um it's fine by your I mean next door to your house is a golf course ement um splits your house doesn't it? No better not not but it splits between your house and your neighbor's house. Doesn't the ement go through there? Correct. on I guess the drive behind the behind my street on the other side of the street.

There's like a 10 or 15 foot ement that goes all the way back around. There's 10 or 15 feet that goes all the way up up this side of 12 um in Champion Circle. So there was discussion about how can we turn those into walking trails. Well, the golf course has spy in obviously. Um, so that was um a little problematic cuz they got they got liability issues. I mean, part of the trail that the that Haze County was was suggesting is yeah, you could take a trail right along Wood Creek Drive um behind the houses on this side along those golf balls where it's all wooded and relatively safe. Um, and they said, "Well, yeah, we we'll let you do it, but there's, you know, people going to get hit by golf balls and people aren't going to be thrilled about having people walking through their backyard, but Okay.

Yeah. So, it was not a great um improvement. Yeah. Well, I was just thinking concerning like sidewalks and walking trucks, how much better it would be if we did have some walking trails rather than the sidewalk. only sidewalks that off sidewalks. It's just all of the trees. No, that's a that's a that's a that's that's a a little bit of political point. There's nobody has ever suggested that we're going to pave,

but the question is we need a place to walk. We need and I'll come around some of these curves and it'll be two baby buggies, three dogs, and five people, you know, and it's dangerous. we need we need safe places for for people to walk.

And um and so and so it was a it was the the political and it's like oh that's not that was never the plan. Um what we're looking at is ways to, you know, find find some paths through the city that are safe, practical, that we can do affordably. And then if so, see if we can get grants to do it. Um and so that's that's what's on the table. But there like today on Next Door, it got really nasty again. You know,

okay. Yeah. So has have the new because that was when I mean there were two owners ago. that was that was the old owners and and um and I think that would the county's help um you know if we have a if we have a master plan that incorporates that concept in fact when they have brought it up at the council meeting Wednesday say here's here's kind of a plan that was already submitted and

if we go to the county with that and I have talked to commissioner hammer about that very thing if we go to the county says, "Yeah, we need to dust that off and and get it back out there." Um, and the county goes to Camptown Judea, to the golf course, to the city, and says, "This is what we'd like to do. This is the funding we have for it. Here's what it's going to look like." Then we've got a real good chance of of making something smart happen. Yeah. So, we really I don't see how we could possibly do it without the golf course. Maybe I'm

miss you know we need you know continuous

you know pathways that you know actually that we can actually walk and play on. If um I I don't I mean we did we did meet with um we did meet with with Morgan Hammer the commissioner and she did jot that one down. We're going to meet with um Tucker Furlow who is I can't remember his title. Something weird. It's like assistant district attorney for criminal division, but but he basically is this is the county attorney for parkland. U so he's meeting with us Friday afternoon. Um that it's it's actually an offshoot of the POSAC grant for the Creek Side. Mhm.

Well, for everything, but that did creek side in the gazebo and all that to just sort of sign off on it and say, "Don't worry about it. What you did was fine. You know, maybe you broke a couple of rules, but you're okay." We we didn't follow ADA compliant. We we didn't follow the agreement that we had for the grant. Um for instance, you know, meeting ADA compliance. So if we had a playroom when we built for Creekide

for Creekide um and actually for the cathed So so we did a few things that were like out of we just didn't we didn't follow the plan word by word, but the spirit the spirit was there. We just didn't follow the letter of the law. And so I so I went to the commissioner um commissioner Shell at the time and he said just send it to us. The attorney will take a look at it and I'm sure it'll be fine.

And so that kind of stalled out. They had an election. So we brought it back up to Commissioner Hammer um week or so ago and Tucker's already got in touch with us and said, "Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Forget about that. Let's let's finish that up." So he's coming up. So, so we can drop that in this lab too. So, there's there's some options there. The three five year plan might be might be a little a little bit better. We'll see. I mean, that's y'all that's that's y'all discussion decision to have.

And I mean, we can always add multiple things. I mean, that doesn't just have to be one project. uh it the whole master plan was listed that way, but we can have multiple projects that we want to see fulfilled within three years or 3 to five or five to 10 um whatever looks more reasonable reasonably to get done. I think trails within three years are pretty doable. Uh, aside from that, it's just, you know, what do we what do we have now? What do we want? Well, just what do we want? That's all it really boils down to.

What do we want? All right. Any other comments, suggestions? So, um, so you're saying three to five years with the with the trails Lana had brought up. Um, so you guys already have the the like ball is rolling again to kind of bring that back up with the

there's like a preliminary Yeah, there's a preliminary um mobility plan that was submitted months ago. Um and so and so you know what we're trying to do is say okay well let's take that and see if there's any grants available or anything that's on this you know in this plan but that's not a that's not a okay we're going to do this we're just saying hey is there money available um in the meantime if there if we can dust off the old county plan and it works you know it would be cheaper probably

um we'd had more access to money because we have county money. Um they're talking about putting out another possession. Um action. Okay. Anyway, county well you know with this new if this subdivision develops and now Edith the dad spoke on Thursday night was talking about all sorts of trails that that would they would incorporate in the park that he's going to build.

Yeah. So that is that actually happening because you I did I'd be interested to hear not now but it's not Yeah. Lots of people there, lots of upset people. And um it sounds like it's a done deal, but I still can't talk to one person. There there are no deals. I was thinking it was the opposite. I thought I talked to Hammering.

I thought she said he had met all the requirements. So, so the county the county had very and I don't want to get off topic but if the county had very little control you know over over certain things right um they can't do so need you know if they they can't I mean if they if if they if they fill out the paperwork right you know they can't deny it but they still have to be able like get water

and get get wastewater systems and get all the infrastructure um that doesn't exist there. Um the county doesn't do I mean it's like the county doesn't regulate wells the groundwater doesn't exist. They're talking about doing all rain water. Well, how do you if every house has has a tank to be self-sufficient for rainwater? Well, that's great unless it doesn't rain. Okay. So, okay. Well, truck it in. Okay. Well, that's great. What do you do in a fire? You don't have fire suppression. So, how's that work? So, so it's it's my understanding of it is it's still kind of pie in the sky. They may have some of these details worked out and and it is a done deal, but the the county's hands there's only so much they can do,

right? But there are other that that was part of Blue Creek at time and I didn't understand it. So, it was there's sliver of it. There's a sliver of it in the ETJ. What is ETJ? Yes. Right. Right down here. Um, our ETJ is, you can see this little line here. Our ETJ is a half a mile from the city limits. It extends a half a mile from the city limits. Um, ETJ is almost meaningless now because state legislature has sort of said that, you know, people do whatever they want. Oh, yeah. They're out.

But it's still But there's EJ still exists. And so the a part of that mountain native property was in our ATJ just as it crossed over 2325 in an area that they had thought was going to be retail. And so we were saying well you won't have any problem with us if you manage in we got that self-interrupted but um but that was a year ago.

Well he went on to say he being the contractor who was very young, very inexperienced employing social media, but he was saying, "Well, basically, if you don't let me do it, I'm going to sell this to somebody that may come in and do a whole lot worse." In other words, he's doing us a favor by doing my rainwater 25,000 gallon water tank in everybody's backyard. Uh it doesn't rain at 30 inches in your gear. They say that's not enough to fill up these tanks. You have to buy water that's coming straight out of someone to fill up these tanks. So you know just sort of threatening us if we don't. But now there was several questions asked what would it take to buy this from you so we can make it a preserve like the area and you know

I would I would put my money on that. But we got to have some big donors or that was that. Well, um, sorry. Any other concerns with the master plan and going forward with Are you coming out of workshop? Last chance. Yeah. Okay.

Okay. Workshop. Uh any item number two? Is there any action that we need to take for the master plan? I don't think we discussed anything that we want in writing or we don't need to discuss anything motion required. No, we did say that we're going to review besides the next meeting. So that the next agenda item that would be under your consideration for agenda items regular meeting. Okay. But nothing. I mean, no motion. Yeah. I don't know. Any motions?

All righty. We'll move on to uh going into a workshop for the November 9th Street giveaway at 508. Um, I have a question um about our budget for the event um and having um I know office taking care taking care of quite quite a bit of it. uh for signage. So, I was talking about tap and burn with um like we need we obviously need signs um uh for the actual event. Is there a way I know we've got spooktacular on the sign that's up front. Is there um we already have the banner for spooktacular. Can we do something on the sign for

on that specific sign? Yeah. No, it'd be easier and cheaper just to do your own sign. They're not. Yeah. And we have we do have a couple signs uh from previous arbor duties. Okay. For Arbor Day with a tree give. Do we have anything for tree giveaway? Uh I thought this was Arbor Day. Give Texas Harbor Day and then National Harbor Days in April. No, our tree giveaway. The tree giveaway. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We're not calling that harbor. No, no, that's past. I think you're right. Maybe last year, but yeah, it's just been college.

So, what your what your budget what your budget said that the council received and approved was $800 for trees and $200 for supplies. Okay. So, it was $200 for supplies. Yeah. So, $800 for trees. that you talking about why OP was for crypto. Well, see, that's just it. Your budget was set without knowing what that was going to do. So, you've got you got $1,000 in you got $1,000 budgeted. Yeah.

Um 800 for trees, 200 for supplies. if you wanted to, you know, if you wanted um to get something on the council agenda for next Wednesday, you know, to say that, okay, we want to spend up to this much on we want to, you know, change that $1,000. So since since trees are going to be donated, right? So they're all coming $500 up to 500 as far, right? Right. Yeah.

Right. So, if you wanted to take, you know, if you wanted to take that and say, "Hey, we will we will keep some set aside in case we need it for trees, but we want, you know, $300 for signage or something." I I don't know. I frankly don't know what community relations has. Um, so community relations about the Yeah, that's just it. That's that's what describes me crazy. Yeah. Is you got you know y'all are looking at you know some educational components and and all that

and you've got a budget. The other thing you do is just not mess with your budget at all and just leave it and if it's needed they can tap that budget. community regulations. You know, this council could say, "Okay, well, we want to pay for this that they did over there from the from what we budgeted for the tree board that they didn't use. So, you can just do your bank." Okay. Okay. Don't This is a workshop. This is not official. I'm just saying. So, we we we basically have So, we haven't spent anything in our budget.

So, we have that $1,000. Um, I have not heard that. Uh, so I spoke with Taffy earlier and she does not know of any signage that um, Cheryl I know she's got she's doing a lot with um, Spooktacular. Um, so I'm not quite sure how how much and she's got, you know, family stuff going on. So, I don't know if anything actually has been done as far as signage for um the tree giveaway. One thing you did, you do have $200 for supplies. Supplies. Yes. Which could be signs. Exactly. Those are supplies. So,

so you could you could design some swap some signage. Get Cheryl or somebody to help. Okay. Or do it yourself. I don't know. and designed some some um vinyl signs that could be done just like Spookacular is. Yeah. Um groments on the side or whatever. Okay. Yeah. To put a rot on. And does tap have that information like who we you like I don't know. Um do I give so I join it? Do I need to give her information on like who to print who prints? Do you guys use He has people that we have used. Okay.

Um we've used, you know, signs on the cheek. Um Okay. I'm sorry. No, that's okay. With all with no rain and a high allergens. Oh, no. I've been fullblown. I'm on on steroids and Oh. Oh, my just bronchitis. He said, "You're not contagious or anything, but you're best. Um, talking." But yeah, so okay. Um, while y'all are talking, look, I can go on my computer and look at tons of sheep at a reasonable size banner and see what it costs.

But basically, all it does is, yeah, here's my design. And you can even go on online and oh, I like this graphic. Just grab it. describe these words and boom, you got a Yeah. Now, do I go and order it or send it to Ty and she does? Daddy will buy it. Okay. Good. Okay. So, if you if you do it um and then and then have it ready to go. Okay. Um Taddy can just I can put on the car. I mean, I've got I've got the city credit card. Okay. So, it's just like, okay, when you're ready to buy, then just find somebody to give you the credit card number and it goes down there and things done. Okay. Excellent. Yeah. Just know how that will work either. That's good to know.

Yes. Yes. Because we're we're kind of down to the wire here, too. They're fast. Um, refreshments. Um, I'll I'll get those same day. Um it's just going to be you know uh light snacks and uh yeah they are donating those. Oh yes we talked about that but if there's anything you can do just let me know. Really? Thank you. Okay. Um the signup sheet do you are you working on that? I can't remember. I think I was waiting on Cheryl um where we were waiting on the trees, the type of trees.

Uh yeah, I sent Cheryl a list. She knows what we have. Okay. Um and yeah, I mean, and what did you decide on? because I know we took out um I wanted to take out the ball of cyprress because I just I just felt like so I put them into groups of five right bald cypers you did we can take those off I mean because

there are items on here that are also mine but they're lumped in with the full order um so we have bald cypress American sycamore or box elder Texas mulberry hash anacopa orchid common hop tree eaves necklace Texas kidneywood bur oak Arizona cyprus I sent you I think cherry and post that very do you want me to uh no so my my the supplier this supplier only had black willow um or you said It's pretty in uh it's it's it's not for this area.

Yeah. I mean, even even one of the ones that uh is questionable on this list would be kidney wood. You typically see that a little further south. Um but it is around here, just not as commonly. the sycamores. I was um after looking at sycamores, I was questioning um whether or not those because those are like those like a more water riparian. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I mean, we I I didn't put that on this agenda for the planting on uh Brook Meadow, but we might want to switch that up. Did we decide on Sycamore for Brooklyn down here?

It was nice in Sycamore. It was presented to council as a sycamore. Yeah. And I'm and just that I mean there are drought tolerance variety out there. But we need it. We need more tall trees cuz those are the two the bald cypress and the sycamores are like the taller trees and then like the E's necklace and you know boxelder. Those are smaller aren't they? Oh like those are box are are pretty tall. Are they are they tall? They get around 50 foot. Speaking of tall, you're you're 4 foot high by 8 foot wide banner. Um,

order it today 50 $47. Awesome. Okay, the sh the shipping on it is 180, but that's really worth though. I mean the like like if you like if I sign on in my account um and it says oh 55% off your order um which is always um and so it's like a 4 by is is $47. Okay. Is that with the spooktacular? Okay. Yeah. Know it's it's or larger. It would be considered 8 by

it. So, a wide one, which is really easier to manage, a wide one, which is 8 wide by 4 ft tall. Um, list price for one one banner is $47. If you get two, price may go down a little bit. I don't know. But, but I can, you know, I can we can sign on to my account and build it and be done with. They've got a lot of designs that are already there that you just change the words on or something, but you can also go just blank slow, you know. Okay. Okay. All right. Got 47 bubbles.

So, okay. So, back to trees though because this is really important for um getting the signup sheet out. Um so, the trees, you already ordered the trees. I mean, I I have them ordered. Yeah. I can make the changes as an um I I think we should own the trees that our area very little water and that are known to actually survive, right? You know, these are all Texas native trees. Uh, like I said, some were questionable. It's true.

For for for this very small area, central Texas, I'm talking from Georgetown to San Antonio. Uh, you typically see kidney woods south of San Antonio, like more common in the wild. Around here, you see it common often in landscapes. Same with the excentment cherry. More of a landscape tree, like a planted. Now, there is a wild one on ranch as well, which is pretty cool. And it's about 50 foot tall, 50 or 60 foot. It's a cherry,

uh, exc the trees that are short here are Eve's necklace, um, ancho orchid, um, kidney wood, the hash. Is that how you say that? That's how I'm saying it. Um, and for a mid-range tree with the Arizona, the Carolina Sapphire variety. Typically those get you know 15 foot tall maps.

Is there another one that they have that could replace the bald cypress? That's a tall because bald cypress get they're very tall. Oh yeah. 100 feet. I mean, so people in the community also live on uh edges of creeks and creeks tributaries all run through Wood Creek and well all over. So I think a bald cypress would wouldn't be a horrible idea. I mean, you're doing for the signup sheet for uh

Yeah. I mean, if you're if you're saying, "Okay, well, you know, Paul, you could say ball cyrus recommended for homes along." I was thinking about how give them away and like, okay, you live at this address, this is going to be the best for you. But that's that's hard to word. But I mean if you want bald cypers off I mean that's well sycamorous too but but you can't

I really feel like that we need to give people trees that are going to be successful know these are going to be for a long time uh the height you know the canopy so we want trees that actually will be around in this yeah I mean take another look at what uh what he has and two very common replacements around white oak. Those are

what about um like Mexican oak Mexican white oak Monterey oak Monterey or Mexican is Mexican white oak is like a common name Monterey is also common name is that the same same yeah we those are okay um yeah because those are less susceptible oak right less is that what I have in my I think so.

The little skinny one oaks are Monteray oak. I think it's Yeah, nice shape. Mhm. Yeah. Okay. So, I love my slides. Okay. So, we do need to decision right on the are we doing five groups? Five or five? No, 10. What was the number? Group groups of five and then uh 50 total. So,

five groups, right? No, 10 groups. So, five trees, 10 of each. Uh five trees, five trees, five trees, five each. Yeah, we can mix it up too. We can do 10 of each. Uh I was thinking diversity when I made this list rather than just Yeah. Are we going to take the order and then place the order? Are we going to place the order and try to build that inventory?

So, I have the order placed. Um but he has so much. It's just like I once I get there, I I can pick and choose. I have the bill ready to go. I mean, if you say, "Hey, we're trying to if you say on the order form, we're trying to build, you know, as diverse it can be and Wood Creek as we possibly can. These 10 trees are all all proven to, you know, work well with a little TLC. Um, you know, make make your, you know, choose the choose the one you want or we can make the recommendation." Yeah. Yeah. I I think we should just make a recommendation would be a good for sure.

Sure. It gives us that news. Those are really why we have 15 people. If someone wants a recommendation of I I would be glad. do a visit or take pictures if they could take pictures of their ideal spot. Yeah. With an address that someone could look it could have online. So,

so for the signup sheet though, I really um you know, I think we should just do a general did I send you like the general like the verbiage a little bit less specific so that we can get a signup sheet out if there is some question about exactly what we're going to have. just get out a signup sheet um you know that says we're you know I don't even remember what I wrote there but I kind of g that to um I think I read it now

and we can create the online form within our within our system um could conceivably include a small picture of the tree, you know, a little bit about the variety. Um, you just say, "Yeah, that's good." Yeah. Okay. Yeah. There's so much see that our residents are going to be super they're getting a free tree, you know, they're going to be super picky. So, if they know that, you know, we're going to have a good good selection of trees, please let us know if you want small, medium, or large, or, you know, something. The only thing the other thing you do is just say get all the trees, put them out, have people say, "Yes, I want a tree." Yeah.

And then when they get there, when they get there, say, Mhm. pick one up. You got questions for anyone. little happy and then you could have little son just like like we went to the nature center in San Marcus um for their sale over the weekend you know and and all the plants have got a little card how the plant looks like but then it's resistant or it's not draft noted like light you know full sun whatever so we we can work on that you know logistically that's the easiest thing to Yeah, I like that idea. I do. The other problem we're going to run short, sweet, simple, to the point.

Yeah. Is the first 10 people get what they want and then somebody else is going to turn in their form and we'll make sure that we don't have anyone left off. And so then you've got to go through all that hassle. So if we do it like Jeff suggests, yeah, won't be too simple. Yeah. So, just a simple sign of key which just a tree. I wanted tree. I wonder if any of the plants that are left over from those native plant sales, any of the trees that are left over from the there was one in New Bronas in one market. I wonder if they are trying to get rid of them.

I'll reach out. I'll buy. It would be the master naturalist. Oh, really? If you got a connection to the Bandro, I know several we mentioned. Yeah. So, I'm getting some We're getting three from We're getting three five gallons from uh King Feed. They still need to talk. Matt and I have uh emailed. They just need to go up there at a time if he's out there. Um and so we'll get probably free natives. So, he uh I don't know if it's going to be trees. It may just be native foliage. I don't know what you know, native plants from him.

And then Arbor Day, I signed up uh I donated to the Arbor Day Foundation and they're sending me stuff like sticks. Yeah, they're they're going to be small for sure. Sticks. But um you know there's going to be like two crate myrtles and but there's like 10 I think there's 10 of them and then two crate myrtles. Oh, so I might bring some of those also, too. We can get those down. So, I'm certainly not going to f I think one of those one of those Craig Myrtle sticks is um in my

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So, if we do um you know, if we give a picture because a number of these that um that you've ordered, they really um you know, they have beautiful um flowers in the spring. You know, some of the some of them have leaves that turn in the fall. So, if we like give you know literature on pictures, I think that's really Yeah. books. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Okay. What's the What's the most attractive thing about this plant or tree? Yeah, some pouches.

Um, yeah, I'll get the little little little definitions of the trees over to you. Um, and what else did you need? cuz um we need um you to um secure some different treaties. Okay. Yeah. So trade out trade out the bald ciphers and the second one. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's doable. Um so that about the trees the the trees that you're getting from team feed those are raffle items correct? Yes.

All right. What other raffle items do we have? We've got quite a few actually. Um, Aqua Texas has donated gator bags, rain gauges. Okay. Free care kits, irrigation supplies, etc. Things like that. Rain chains. Wow. Big basket of uh

uh pruning, you know, stuff for to uh Yeah. for the um just my blank for yeah so for Phillip I think Philillip from uh we love trees he may personally come to that or I don't know if it'll be somebody else but um for his uh demonstration we're going to rattle off a a tree turning basket cool all right yeah so oh and we have the three trees. 35 gallons. 35 gallons.

And they're fruit trees or just any trees? I don't know if it's necessarily going to be fruit trees. I always see that. That's my ideal. It's like, you know, I this guy like, oh, somebody grows a fruit tree and they get this beautiful fruit, you know, in the spring um or in the fall. I don't know if that's wise with us not Yeah, they're just they're just more um time intensive and water intensive usual.

Um so I don't know if we should do that is I guess but I guess there are some fruits fruit trees that actually like what do we like what do we have? and trying to like there's a plum tree, right? Mexican plum, figenda. Uh, pomegranate do really well around here, right? Um, okay. Over in East Austin, I've seen orange trees, but that's over there. This area. Yeah. I don't want there's a Texas pear tree I mean that produces relatively well but do you want fruit trees? Do you ask for fruit trees? Hold up.

No. My hold up trees are so iffy to me this with this weather we've been they make a mess. I mean, if if you're not constantly out there picking the fruit, um, and then we you're going to basically like have rotting fruit all over your yard. My animal, my daughter-in-law. Yeah. Every peach on her got some good peach jam. Really? Okay. Yeah, she put individual. I love fig trees. Oh, the mulberry was the mulberries on the list, right? Mulberries are on a list. They're there.

So, yeah, the my mulberry tree actually does really well. Um, fast growing and it's been producing for the last two or three years. Mber. Good. All right. Yeah. Yeah. So, that's a that's a good one. I'm glad you put that on there. Um then I'll just maybe get um I don't even know what I'll get. I'll just stick with um native trees. Okay. All right. Um maybe stick a fruit in there. So maybe a still

uh so aside next thing about that uh coordination with rainies and harvest rain code. Are are they still coming? We have time slots. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're coming. See if we Cheryl is do a lot of work on the timing. Let's see. But the rainies will be Steven Granger. He'll have 30 minute demonstration. He's going to do weing weing barrels as well as rain barrels.

Okay. And then uh Harvest Rain will come and talk about the large whole house type water container. And we love trees and we'll do a big live demo. We do need to pick a spot for him to actually do the demo on right over Jeff's truck or his park. Anyway, I'll take the bronze flat down. Okay. Okay. As long as we have something for him to trees all over here. Okay. He can do a demonstration on.

Uh well, it all sounds about like it did last month. Just want to make sure uh we're all still on the same page. Sounds great. Okay. Here is something that's called the flow of events. 1:00 board members will arrive, start setting up. Two, vendors will come. 3:00 the event begins. 3:30 is the rainies. 4 is harvest rain. 4:30 is we love trees. 5:00 p.m. the event breaks down. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. We've got a good flow. I like it.

So, um, do we want the children's table just really quickly? I know I've thrown that out a couple times and it can't seem to get an answer. Do we want a children's table? I think a children's table would be great. Uh I mean there's a couple empty spots in the community garden. They could go play in the dirt. Keep keep them busy for a while, you know. Okay. Had thought about that. Of course, that's between,

you know, Cheryl to actually come up with it, but it would it would get people into the space and looking around looking at the potential uh if they wanted to grab a spot. There's a couple available and there's plants in there now is my understanding as well. People are actively Yeah. Yeah. Did they they get the pump for and water? Uh, I guess so. I mean, it's I think we're we're good on that. Jim has been He's He's Yeah, he was on it. All right. It's good. Okay. Um, is that everything?

We really haven't worked into our program even about the community as far as Hey, look over here. So I don't think he wants to I would leave that on declared Palmer. Yeah. And she may have something planned out. That is not that's a good question. That is a great question. Yeah. And then also the city hall to get anything mentioned about renovation. Uh they're welcome to use the restroom in here and see. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think we need

We've got a pretty tight schedule. Yeah. I mean, we'll just have it unlocked for the restrooms, but as far as you know, telling everybody what we've done, I don't know that that's really and then um the ro name and what your role of your play. Yeah, we've got a I saying you would would not be master ceremonies or energy. No, I think I think I'm good. We did buy EA system. So we do have a DA system. Okay.

So we want to have that. Um so as far as setup, we need to you know kind of we need to decide how one set up. Yeah, we'll want to go out and shoot that just sort of gather and walk the area, you know, the week before and just sort of block things out. I would give it with somebody on community relations committee and just make sure everybody's on the same page. Cheryl, she said several tents or at least she could bring out.

We've got I've got a canopy and I think the city has city canopy. Um, and I've got t I've got a table that I can bring. Um, yeah. So, we'll have to look at what we actually have. Excuse me. In the shed garage, what is it called? What do you guys call the shed? reserve and Texas will not take an official role but they would like to say we'll introduce them and invite Ben or whoever's here to you know just say a couple words about okay with the

Y okay are we I think that all sounds very Can you go to the Rainb website and get enough information foruction to print something for you? I would No, they can give me something. Okay. Yeah, I don't know anything about them. So, all right.

Yeah. Or somebody's got the, you know, somebody said, "Okay, this is kind of what we want to say." You know, I tend to be off the cuff, you know. So, if I know the person's name and who they're with and what company does, then I say, "Tell us more, Jacob. Get out. Get up here." Um, okay. Well, that all sounds good. Out meeting at you said 5:40. 54. Yes. Yeah. 5:41.

Okay. Oh, do we have any actions for the November 9th tree giveaway? Any motions? I don't think we need to make a motion on changing the tree species because it's not even really done yet. Um, anything going? No. All right. No action. We already have our everything. Great. All right. Item number five, discuss and take possible actions on a dog within. Do we have more information?

Uh Jeff, do we have any more?

No, I think if I remember right y'all, we're going to sort of look at the area that has been has been suggested or just anyway down there, find out what the what our actual lot line are. I do know that when you when you look up here this space, there's a house here, but these two are vacant. Well, this this one doesn't belong to us. So, we've really got this space. This is a little weird because it just the way it's drawn, it's not, you know, it's not scale. It's not accurate. So, I mean, we have the space there. There is the trail to the Bluehole that, you know, we're not going to mess with.

So, I don't know if there's just a little narrow long narrow space for a dog bar. I I think that the best thing to do would be somebody say, you know, this is something that's interesting to me. Um, I'll get with Jim Burton. We'll go down there and figure out where the where the lines really truly are and and get some dimensions on what it what it would even work for a dog park cuz it seems like you need a fairly broad line area a little a little you know um dog run you know not not a dog park right

so that may I mean maybe that you say it's it's not practical for for a dog park. Now, it might break for, you know, an adult, you know, or, you know, exercise or something something like that. Yeah. You know, but per dog park might not. I don't know. I I haven't walked it myself. I I w I take it back. I walked it with um with a person who has a design for for like a fence that install fences for dog parks. Um, and so we wanted to just sort of give some idea what a fence might cost to go in there,

but I think I didn't know the dimensions well enough, but she maybe had quoted something is way bigger than what we need to we need to narrow that down. Um, then if if that doesn't work, then I mean say, hey, yeah, we we definitely feel a dog parking is something that the city should have. Uh, but you're gonna have to acquire some, right? Yeah. So, that's that's just gonna take a little research on the uh comprehensive plan that was done. Was that is um council bringing it up because it's high on the list of our residents?

Yeah, it was up there. I mean, it's not like Oh, okay. I think we had that question the last meeting as to what you know the desiraability of having a dog art to be it was it was it was mentioned enough it was high enough on the on the list of things that we looked at and say well this would you know this is higher but it's not really feasible I mean we're going to put in a municipal pool you know that's that's going to be tough to you know so if we can't do that what's next on the list so dog park is one of those. Okay. Well, there's some visits. You know, we've got land. What does it take to a dog park? Okay. And classic.

No. Okay. All right. Well, so we get with Jim, walk it um and just see what the actual dimensions are. Yeah. And then just bring it back to bring it back to the group. I'll put on the list for um ice wherever we choose it could put a water hydrant or

Yeah. I mean that would be wateration.

The dogs they did on the tri, but now I'm talking about the at our new dog park and the dog parks. They probably that didn't we say there was water already over there maybe. There may be there there I I believe there used to be irrigation over there and it's not. So I mean if you look around I think you'll find a like a meter or something in the ground. So I I don't know. That'd be another thing to sort of nose around and see what's see what's left if anything. I mean we know there's water in the air. you know because those services flood.

Um you know another place that you know this is also um behind us here um you know Wood Creek City Hall is here but all this land back here behind us is governmental too like around the water tower. Oh that'd be an interesting space. They've got it. you know, the community garden people have said, "Yeah, we did expand up to there," which is true. Um, but you can secretly, you know, look at that as potential, you know, for for park space or green space or dog park space. Yeah. A little waggy, but

a little bit of mulch. I know. Do you know if that's like a half acre, full acre? I I don't know. I don't know. Um, I can pull a pad and say yourself.

I can't remember. So, there's a water tower right there. I know. There's like a driveway that's like can't remember. Well, right here. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's a driveway that leads into the water tower and that's all that's all broke off or aqua but that's I mean it's it's on our property but it's you know obviously obvious but it's

so outline that and around the other side of on our last month we talked about contacting people that might be interested in doing landscaping and so I contacted two people and they'll put a on Facebook I think and I don't know if anyone has contacted Jim So, do you know it was presented to council last Wednesday, so Jim's going to be going quickly.

Does anyone responded? Do you have any idea if either of the people I called responded or No. Uh, so our suggestions that that we made in our last meeting were just recently um given to council last week. So, there hadn't really been a whole lot of time uh to gain to get a response. So, we can look we can ask Jim I can call him be good and um see if anyone's responded since last week and then well maybe some someone's responded to Bill as well. Um

well, thank you to Um but that would just give us three people. I mean that didn't give lots of specifics mainly that they needed to be a native plant though. Okay. It doesn't list the acreage. Okay. Well, it's a big chunk of land though. Okay. It's bigger than the slither over here. Um, sure. And it's already well partially fenced.

Partially fenced. It seems to be more open. Uh, maybe couple little theater removal. There's parking. Sounds good. I didn't know that there was that much there. I didn't either. So, like a We'll definitely explore that option. Nothing like sitting under under the big water tower. Um, all right. Do we have any other No, that's good.

Questions about the dog card? Just I will I will say I put it on the master plan that I've updated, but since y'all don't have it, y'all don't know that. Oh, all right. So, meeting ajourned 551. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. I think this is the we've gotten out ever. You're doing okay. The um the ice Yeah. So So at the meeting last night, we were talking about and Chad and Linda Linda said, "I've had three rotator surgeries." Yeah.

And and somebody l them a they said an ice machine. I'm saying we haven't got an ice machine. No. No. It's a It's a It's like a cooler with hoses that come out. You put ice and water in the in the cooler and it pumps it circulates ice water through a through a pad sort of a warm fitting pad. Huh. And so we said, "Well, look into that. You probably borrow ours." And and it turns out that our son had one from his surgery. They they sent him home with it by the way. They didn't even have to buy it. Oh somewhere. Yeah. They bought it. They bought it for sure. vote. No.